00:25 i´m new to JKD,can anyone tell me why " hand before foot" ? if you do it at the same moment it will made more damage beacause of the weight distribution,you will loose this if you do the " hand before foot" (i´m just interested in self/family defense).
@corporacionmonstruo It's so your opponent cannot see your intention. If you move, your opponent may 'beat you to the punch'. I slowed down the video so you can see that Bruce's body follows after the punch is thrown, the time is very short that no power is lost. It's not a natural body movement, if you think about it when we walk we step first before we swing our arms.
@Kazuyaabi if you don't believe it's the bil jee, what do you think it is? To me Bruce Lee throws it like the straight lead, but some people were all uppity about him not clinching his fist
@larssonk22 Biu Jee is a 3rd and last form of Wing Chun kung fu. Btw i say to all commentors...you guys have to get rid of from having a kung fu brain salad immediately :) whatever style-technique it is..Don't be a formalist obsessive nor mma brained shitbag (what the fuck ever it is ...they think, they determine what is true accurate in fighting LOL) to discuss nonsense. Just do your things.
Larsson22 u need to do your homework before posting! This is the whipping Bil-Jee not the straight lead. U need a clearer version LMCO just look at the body mechanics! Tommy has taught you well.
@jdempsey1919 I agree that this is not a Straight Lead Punch. It's either a JKD Lead Jab or a Leading Finger Jab. If by whipping Bil-Jee you mean Leading Finger Jab, then yeah I agree. Though it's pretty difficult to tell if he's using his fingers or his fist to strike.
No, they are NOT! Larsson, I really like you as a person, and really hate to have to disagree with you, but the straight lead is not a jump in/jump out movement, and the elbow does NOT move the way it does in this clip for the straight lead! Once again, the straight lead is a fuly committed, centerline forward energy strike. You DO NOT jump in/jump out!
I just watched it AGAIN to be sure, and it is a whipping bil jee, which explains the body mechanics, and the rear foot pointing away from the opponent. That is for moving back out quickly immediately upon execution! In other words, a speed strike, not a power strike such as the straight lead!
Im going to have to agree with SifuLMD this is not the straight lead its a whipping Bil Jee and no the mechanics for the straight lead are not the same as a whipping Bil Jee because with the Bil Jee the focus is not on power like a straight lead its about speed and accuracy the rear foot points away from opponent for speed.great you caught that SifuLMD. this is NOT a STRAIGHT LEAD.
That is NOT the straight lead! He is firing a bil jee (finger jab)! I have a clearer version of that which I have owned since the early nineties! Trust me, that is a finger jab! He was demonstrating how fast you can get in and out with a finger jab!
Not THAT! The straight lead is not a jump in/jump out movement! I have been training in this art for thirty-two years, and am certified as a Senior Instructor. I know the straight lead when I see it, and that is a bil jee, NOT a straight lead! The straight lead is a fully committed, vertical fist punch that moves in a straight line. The movement in this clip is what we refer to as a whipping delivery, NOT a fully committed straight line movement! Sorry, NOT a straight lead!
Man, no disrespect to the Ted Wong method of JKD, but so far, his students are teaching people that the heel of the leading foot should hit the ground at the same time as the punch hits the target. I don't know how accurate that is, but it's really uncomfortable, unnatural and cumbersome.
I know what you mean, actually its punch lands first then lead foot then rear foot its called the "3 point landing". You can do the straight lead by through the lead hand and foot at the same time, but that is more telegraphic. Its hard because it is unatural, as humans we move by taking a step first then the arms swing. But through repetitions you can learn to throw the punch before taking the step. Like I said its less telegraphic, which is extremely benifical!
Ha, thanks for your reply bro. Oh, what I meant was, I'm naturally doing the way it's done in the video, that is, punch hits first just a split second before the leading foot lands. But I find Ted Wong's method more clumsy and difficult, which is the punch strikes at the same moment the leading foot lands. I prefer the method you're suggesting! You're absolutely right, thanks so much!
Oh... man, really no disrespect to Ted Wong at all.. I just didn't feel comfortable doing the fist+foot together punch. But in your opinion, is it a necessary stage to go thru before going for 3-point landing?
Theres no right or wrong way, but the whole idea behind the art is effeciency/simplicity, directness and effectiveness, cut away until the art is streamlined. Following those principles you should be aiming to maximize all techniques potential to succeed. So performing the straight lead using the 3 point landing would be the best way. It just takes lots time and repetitions to learn, sadly alot of people get put off by this and discard the technique before they have even felt its potential.
Agree! I see it this way: The streamlined way you talk about is the theoreticly besst way to throw you punch, any deviation from it will be a disadvantage. This about "no right or wrong way" I see as the best performance of a punch varies depending on who throws it. My best way might not be your best way. But as you say, 3 point landing is important for every human being, we´re not THAT different.
Personally I've always made a conscious effort to learn the technique using the 3 point landing, even though it would be much easier to just use the other method, I'm willing to put the time and energy into until it becomes second nature.
probably not, only heard about it the other day and the boss is on his honeymoon, can't have any time off round then. are you? i'll have to get in touch with Tommy
I've started training again so if all goes to plan then I should make it. It was going to be just a 1 day, event but its turned into 2 now. It will be a shame if you miss it, I'm looking forward to catching up with everyone again.
00:25 i´m new to JKD,can anyone tell me why " hand before foot" ? if you do it at the same moment it will made more damage beacause of the weight distribution,you will loose this if you do the " hand before foot" (i´m just interested in self/family defense).
corporacionmonstruo 2 weeks ago
@corporacionmonstruo It's so your opponent cannot see your intention. If you move, your opponent may 'beat you to the punch'. I slowed down the video so you can see that Bruce's body follows after the punch is thrown, the time is very short that no power is lost. It's not a natural body movement, if you think about it when we walk we step first before we swing our arms.
You should also look up, 3 point landing.
larssonk22 2 weeks ago
@larssonk22 i see it now,just a fraction of a second " befor foot".thanks for you answer
corporacionmonstruo 2 weeks ago
You can see Bruce Lee stressed footwork and mobility with the techniques. He is very dynamic not rigid.
iceblue4u 2 months ago
It's not biu jee.. Anyways i like it..
Kazuyaabi 3 months ago
@Kazuyaabi if you don't believe it's the bil jee, what do you think it is? To me Bruce Lee throws it like the straight lead, but some people were all uppity about him not clinching his fist
larssonk22 3 months ago
@larssonk22 Biu Jee is a 3rd and last form of Wing Chun kung fu. Btw i say to all commentors...you guys have to get rid of from having a kung fu brain salad immediately :) whatever style-technique it is..Don't be a formalist obsessive nor mma brained shitbag (what the fuck ever it is ...they think, they determine what is true accurate in fighting LOL) to discuss nonsense. Just do your things.
Kazuyaabi 3 months ago
@Kazuyaabi agreed :)
larssonk22 3 months ago
@Kazuyaabi I had some of this footage back in 1995. It's Bruce Lee, dude.
JeraldMcClane 1 month ago
It's a finger jab....doesn't belong to any fuckin style.
gorfjorf2112112 10 months ago
It looks like he pushes off at the same time as he throws the hand.
crabbit87 1 year ago
THIS WAS HIS LETHAL WEAPON
rjf19741 1 year ago
the music is a shit! the master bruce lee was a since person ,don't is a great music for a bruce-lee action"""!!!!!!!!
raskolnikoffh 1 year ago
faster than a flea. nice slo mo,ill practice
BBFOXHOUND 1 year ago
okay
FIGHTFANNERD3 2 years ago
larsson22 lmco? Laugh My Cock Off
jdempsey1919 2 years ago
lol, I realize now that I hadn't changed the title after lamar pointed out my mistake.
larssonk22 2 years ago
Larsson22 u need to do your homework before posting! This is the whipping Bil-Jee not the straight lead. U need a clearer version LMCO just look at the body mechanics! Tommy has taught you well.
jdempsey1919 2 years ago
lmco?
larssonk22 2 years ago
Lamar pointed out its the finger jab
larssonk22 2 years ago
My focus wasn't on the arm movement, but on the footwork and body alignment.
Title changed thanks Lamar.
larssonk22 2 years ago
@jdempsey1919 I agree that this is not a Straight Lead Punch. It's either a JKD Lead Jab or a Leading Finger Jab. If by whipping Bil-Jee you mean Leading Finger Jab, then yeah I agree. Though it's pretty difficult to tell if he's using his fingers or his fist to strike.
DarkashesX 1 year ago
how does bruce throw a punch before his feet move?
asseertedwolf 2 years ago
with practice
larssonk22 2 years ago
I have to agree with SifuLMD, it looks more like a fingerjab then a straight lead. Amazing speed and performence though!
ztawiz 2 years ago
Yeh it probably is, but the shape of the fist does not matter, his body mechanics are the same as throwing the straight lead.
larssonk22 2 years ago
No, they are NOT! Larsson, I really like you as a person, and really hate to have to disagree with you, but the straight lead is not a jump in/jump out movement, and the elbow does NOT move the way it does in this clip for the straight lead! Once again, the straight lead is a fuly committed, centerline forward energy strike. You DO NOT jump in/jump out!
SifuLMD 2 years ago
I just watched it AGAIN to be sure, and it is a whipping bil jee, which explains the body mechanics, and the rear foot pointing away from the opponent. That is for moving back out quickly immediately upon execution! In other words, a speed strike, not a power strike such as the straight lead!
SifuLMD 2 years ago
Hi Lamar, I understand what you are saying, no worries.
larssonk22 2 years ago
Im going to have to agree with SifuLMD this is not the straight lead its a whipping Bil Jee and no the mechanics for the straight lead are not the same as a whipping Bil Jee because with the Bil Jee the focus is not on power like a straight lead its about speed and accuracy the rear foot points away from opponent for speed.great you caught that SifuLMD. this is NOT a STRAIGHT LEAD.
spacewars312 2 years ago
That is NOT the straight lead! He is firing a bil jee (finger jab)! I have a clearer version of that which I have owned since the early nineties! Trust me, that is a finger jab! He was demonstrating how fast you can get in and out with a finger jab!
SifuLMD 2 years ago
Hello Lamar, you may be right, but the body movements are the same just the shape of his fist is different.
larssonk22 2 years ago
dude wth are you talking about bruce lee named it the stright lead punch
bboyloco3 2 years ago
Not THAT! The straight lead is not a jump in/jump out movement! I have been training in this art for thirty-two years, and am certified as a Senior Instructor. I know the straight lead when I see it, and that is a bil jee, NOT a straight lead! The straight lead is a fully committed, vertical fist punch that moves in a straight line. The movement in this clip is what we refer to as a whipping delivery, NOT a fully committed straight line movement! Sorry, NOT a straight lead!
SifuLMD 2 years ago
If you have a clearer version, please upload it I know a lot people would love to see better quality footage.
larssonk22 2 years ago
Man, no disrespect to the Ted Wong method of JKD, but so far, his students are teaching people that the heel of the leading foot should hit the ground at the same time as the punch hits the target. I don't know how accurate that is, but it's really uncomfortable, unnatural and cumbersome.
lucidmist 2 years ago
I know what you mean, actually its punch lands first then lead foot then rear foot its called the "3 point landing". You can do the straight lead by through the lead hand and foot at the same time, but that is more telegraphic. Its hard because it is unatural, as humans we move by taking a step first then the arms swing. But through repetitions you can learn to throw the punch before taking the step. Like I said its less telegraphic, which is extremely benifical!
larssonk22 2 years ago
Ha, thanks for your reply bro. Oh, what I meant was, I'm naturally doing the way it's done in the video, that is, punch hits first just a split second before the leading foot lands. But I find Ted Wong's method more clumsy and difficult, which is the punch strikes at the same moment the leading foot lands. I prefer the method you're suggesting! You're absolutely right, thanks so much!
lucidmist 2 years ago
I leant that from Tommy Carruthers who learnt it from Ted, so it seems he maybe teaching both methods
larssonk22 2 years ago
Oh... man, really no disrespect to Ted Wong at all.. I just didn't feel comfortable doing the fist+foot together punch. But in your opinion, is it a necessary stage to go thru before going for 3-point landing?
lucidmist 2 years ago
Theres no right or wrong way, but the whole idea behind the art is effeciency/simplicity, directness and effectiveness, cut away until the art is streamlined. Following those principles you should be aiming to maximize all techniques potential to succeed. So performing the straight lead using the 3 point landing would be the best way. It just takes lots time and repetitions to learn, sadly alot of people get put off by this and discard the technique before they have even felt its potential.
larssonk22 2 years ago
Agree! I see it this way: The streamlined way you talk about is the theoreticly besst way to throw you punch, any deviation from it will be a disadvantage. This about "no right or wrong way" I see as the best performance of a punch varies depending on who throws it. My best way might not be your best way. But as you say, 3 point landing is important for every human being, we´re not THAT different.
ztawiz 2 years ago
Personally I've always made a conscious effort to learn the technique using the 3 point landing, even though it would be much easier to just use the other method, I'm willing to put the time and energy into until it becomes second nature.
larssonk22 2 years ago
Ok, excellent view! Thanks so so much for your replies, really mean alot!
lucidmist 2 years ago
Man thanks for this. Too many ppl trying to do the straight lead in a confused mess... This is PERFECT.
Really appreciate what you're doing bro.
lucidmist 2 years ago
You learn from carruthers?
martiallaw09 2 years ago
I attend his seminars whenever I can
larssonk22 2 years ago
Ah awesome, would he incorporate alot of live training at his seminars?
martiallaw09 2 years ago
That would depend on the skill level of those attending. He does with his own students.
larssonk22 2 years ago
great video Lars, hope your well
joefitz8 2 years ago
cheers, mate I good, will you be at Tommy in October?
larssonk22 2 years ago
probably not, only heard about it the other day and the boss is on his honeymoon, can't have any time off round then. are you? i'll have to get in touch with Tommy
joefitz8 2 years ago
I've started training again so if all goes to plan then I should make it. It was going to be just a 1 day, event but its turned into 2 now. It will be a shame if you miss it, I'm looking forward to catching up with everyone again.
larssonk22 2 years ago
Great video, 5 star
salvatoreJKD 2 years ago 2
Yeah, people are lazy.
chronicebonics 2 years ago
Hand before foot, most will never commit to this concept.
chronicebonics 2 years ago
True it goes against what we do naturally, like when we walk its always foot first then that arm follow
larssonk22 2 years ago
alot of folks will not put the time and energy into learning the straight lead itself and settle with jabbing
larssonk22 2 years ago
And will instead go and add 50 other arts and claim theyre doing jkd....
martiallaw09 2 years ago
throw in the kali sticks and you got a circus.
chronicebonics 2 years ago
Haha what?
martiallaw09 2 years ago