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Does anyone know the lyrics to this song? Both the original and the english translation. Atleast the original name of the song, I can't find it anywhere else.
три вопроса причисляющим себя к монголам тюркам: 1. к какой расе вы относитесь? 2. какую религию исповедуете? 3. изначальное значение монгольского слова хан?
а теперь возьмите книжку и найдите ответы монголов. и не лгите сами себе..
Three questions to consider themselves Turks Mongols: 1. to which race you belong to? 2. profess the religion? 3. original meaning of the word Mongol Khan?
And now take a book and find the answers of the Mongols. and do not lie to yourself ..
@kepblood я - казашка из рода керей. Отвечаю на вопросы: 1. к монголоидной; 2. ислам, хоть и чисто формально; 3. слово хан - тюркское, набери в гугле "происхождение слова хан". Кереи и некоторые другие племена имеют неясное происхождение, но их правители имели тюркские титулы и имена. Я считаю, что они были тюрками, которых Шынгыс хан называл "монголами". Абсолютно ясно следующее: некоторые казахские племена, будучи тюркоязычными, назывались монголами в 13 веке.
@aizhan1001 я не знаю какая ты казашка но все знакомые мне казахи всегда с содроганием вспоминают само слово чингиз-хан и воевали с монголами на протяжении столетий. монголы исповедуют или шаманизм или буддизм и никогда не принимали ислам так как это религия побежденных. в гугле много чуши пишут и ты не ответила что означает дословно хан по-монгольски, поверь я сам монгол наполовину.в 13 веке казахи резались насмерть с монголам и уж точно монголами себя не называли.
@kepblood давайте не обзывать оседлых побежденными. Когда завоеватели ассимилируются с побежденными и принимают их веру, это ли не реальная победа? Насчет предков казахов, то с кем они только не воевали. В результате, у нас смешанный генофонд. У нас нет содрогания перед Шынгыс ханом, с чего бы? у нас ведь есть род торе, кажется их около 250 000 человек. Они его прямые потомки.
@aizhan1001 великая загадка монголов в том что они не ассимилировались ни с кем а просто ушли)) а у монгольского хана было много дочерей и их надо было пристраивать и с соседями проще породнится чем вырезать их. и родня хана и род это две большие разницы. в русских царях к примеру русской крови процента 2)) но это не дает повода называть русских немцами. и чингизид не обязательно монгол)) и кстати с каких пор казахи стали оседлыми?)) уж точно не монголы к этому руку приложили) .
@aizhan1001 и не пускай повозку впереди лошади)) это не у монголов тюркские титулы а у тюрков монгольские)) все -таки это монголы вырезали хорезм, самарканд и другие среднеазиатские города а не наоборот)) и повторюсь раз ты монголка то знаешь что такое хан)) вернее ghan так точнее))
@kepblood вы, конечно, понимаете, что историческая осведомленность вашей бабушки не является аргументом. У казахов тоже есть род "меркит". Повторюсь, мы не монголы в современном понимании этого слова. Наши предки тюрки, которые жили на своих исторически тюркских землях, входили в объединение средневековых монголов. И я не монголка, а казашка))
@aizhan1001 да осведомленность моей бабушки не аргумент)) но вы аппелируете такими же) и в землях казахов есть меркиты но они не тюрки)) как и кереиты и множество других племен БЕЖАВШИХ в казахские степи. вы еще про казахский род под именем чечен скажите вместе с ними и посмеемся)) тоже в казахстане живут. как и почему они туда попали объяснять не надо надеюсь? и вы именно монголка а не казашка ... по крови))
@aizhan1001 кереиты относятся к роду монголов так называемые черные монголы хэрэ. и говорили они на монгольском языке. а потом сбежали с родины к тюркам и с ними ассимилировались. а тюрков в забайкалье кроме татар не было никогда.
@kepblood да и я знаю, что мы тюрки. У нас род керей тоже существует. Я думаю, что кереев казахов гораздо больше чем хэрэ в монголии. В Монголии много тюркских племен, как я поняла.
@aizhan1001 ))) упертость дело похвальное только когда квадрат переталкивать надо)) уйгуров вон в китае тоже больше.. только родина их узбекистан. и они тоже искренне считают себя китайцами
@kepblood уйгуры - граждане КНР только в политическом смысле. Этнически они и ханьцы - "две вещи несовместны". А мы тут вроде как этнические аспекты обсуждали. Насчет родины уйгуров Узбекистана, это вы круто перегнули. Первый раз слышу, похоже на чушь.
@aizhan1001 если вы что то первый раз слышите это не значит что это чушь)) узбекистан переводится как стоянка узбека. был такой хан)) этнически кстати благодаря компартии китая уйгуры и ханьцы уже давно говорят на мандарине и все считают себя едиными китайцами разных родов)) или лежат прикопанные в канавах( кто учить и считать не захотел) так кстати и с хэрэ ушедшими в казахстан было ( в то время все еще проще решалось).
@kepblood уйгуры так не считают. Иначе ханьцы не говорили бы, что "три зла", с которыми они борются, включают терроризм, сепаратизм и еще что-то. Видно, вы совсем не знаете о жизни Центральной Азии. Насчет кереев я вам сказала, что мы тюрки. Упертости вам не занимать, но убедить вы не можете. Смиритесь уже.
@aizhan1001 убеждать фанатика дело неблагодарное увольте)) и ханьцы говоря про три зла имеют в виду тибетцев а никак не уйгуров.. видимо вы тоже все новости находите на канале обс.. дискуссию на сем считаю закрытой так как вашу позицию я понял и дальнейший спор считаю просто неинтересным..
@aizhan1001 и вообще советую почитать летописи чингиз-хана в монгольском издании или посмотреть китайский сериал "чингиз-хан" по этим летописям поставленный там кстати и про кереитов есть все подробно. очень кстати познавательный фильм первый сезон по крайней мере.
@kepblood по фильмам историю не изучают)) тюрки имели опыт государства раньше монголоязычных племен. Именно тюркская система государственности легла в основу государства Шынгыс хана. И письменность монголы использовали древнеуйгурскую. И сражались в войсках Шынгыс хана тоже тюрки.
@aizhan1001 я не спорю что именно кереитская урга стала основой государства монголов я хочу понять с какого боку вы кереитов тюрками называете?)) и кстати историю учу далеко не по фильмам)) когда кереиты были разбиты темучжином они бежали в казахские степи но при чем тут казахи в частности и тюрки в общем? то что вы сейчас говорите по тюркски не означает что на нем говорили ваши предки. вы именно монголка)) говорящая по тюркски. но монголка)) вынужденный эмигрант так сказать))
@kepblood я считаю, полагаясь на ряд исследователей вопроса, что кереи - народ тюркский и является частью не одного, а нескольких тюркских народов. У казахов их больше всего. Я, казашка рода керей, прошу вас даже не пытаться убеждать меня в том, что мой род не имеет отношения к тюркам.
@kepblood почему это нельзя называть кереев казахами? я вот, например, казашка и я же керей. Вы сами почитайте побольше и тюркские корни монголов 13 века вас не будут удивлять. Тогрул - древнее тюркское имя. Ер-Тогрул - был такой тюрк, военачальник огузов, которые ушли в Анатолию до 13 века. Кстати, современная Монголия находится на территории древнего Восточного Тюркского каганата. Слово "каганат" вам ни о чем не говорит?
@aizhan1001 Кереиты (хэрээд от монг. кэрэ, хэрэ, «во́рон» и -ид, уд, д — монг. суффикс мн. числа) — союз племён, обитавших на современных территориях Забайкалья и Монголии в X—XIII веках. Имели свою письменность, государство и законы. Граничили на севере с енисейскийми киргизами, на востоке — с монголами, на западе — с найманами, меркитами, на юге — с татарами. Имели 2 столицы, одна из которых Өргө (Урга), позднее стала столицей империи Чингисхана — Каракорумом.
@kepblood территория современной Монголии и Алтай - это древняя историческая родина тюркских народов. Там расположены наши памятники и захоронения. И как можно спрашивать, при чем тут тюрки? Что-то вы совсем не объективный, скрепя сердце, признайте уже, что тюрки не исчезли с лица земли, как только родился Шынгыс хан.
@aizhan1001 а имя ван-хан вам ни о чем не говорит? и его судьба в особенности? кереиты не тюрки. это как поволжских немцев русскими назвать. казахи не спорю приютили кереитов но почему то вы до сих пор называете себя керей а не казахэ...
и исконно кереиты относятся к монголо-алтайской языковой группе а не к тюркской хотя и знают тюркский)) как те же поволжские немцы знают русский причем лучше немецкого))
Turanic is more Persian centric. Altaic is more Sinocentric. Turan is Zoroaster. While in Altaic cultures. You can see Chinese symbols like the dragon and the Chinese zodiac all the way to Hungary.
mongols are not Turks...its not easy to be a TURK...ım Turk and proud of being Turk...Huns...Gokturks..uighurs...Kırghız...are Turks.Cenghjis khan was mongol but his army was 95 percent Turks..There was a few mongols in his hand ..Turks made war and mongols were proud of it..
@MrHunEagle вы сами этим унизили свой народ. с вашей точки зрения было так: к великому и могучему народу тюрков пришла горстка каких-то монголов и сказала - а давайте мы вами будем управлять. турки тут же согласились и начали подчинятся монголам непонятно почему.... вы сами этот бред слышите?
@MrHunEagle you do it humiliated its people. In your opinion was this: a great and mighty people of the Turks came to a handful of some of the Mongols, and said - and let's you we'll manage. Turks immediately agreed and started to obey the Mongols do not know why .... you do hear this nonsense?
Huns, Turks, Fins, Tatars, Uyghurs...Attila, Ataturk, Fatih Sultan Mehmed(II.), Oguz Khan... Different names, different words, different religions but one spirit and origin. God bless all Turanic people on the world. Hail from Turkey!!!
@avmkaya ... Very well said Kardeshim .. very well said , may the OMNIPOTENT THE HIGHEST GOD ALLAH -TANRI - TENGRI bless people who carry a SUBLIME TURKIC BLOOD , in their veins . Thanks for sharing Dear SingerDakini
@avmkaya My mom is a district attorney so I did ask her. And you know what? She told me I was right. Indeed they are a bunch of uncivilized,low life barbarians, looting,stealing and murdering people who managed to do a little better than living in tents and wandering the steppes. Always attracted by other people's wealth unable to put on stone upon another on their own.
@TAGMATAGMATON Ok my friend i am a lawyer too. So i dont want say bad things against my colleague's child. But you have prejudice against Turks. Because you criticize Turkic leaders and commanders but you like Alexander the great. You know that he destroyed many cities and killed a lot of people. So for criterions Alexander must be called "barbarian killer". Of course he is not a killer, he was a great general. Shortly; you shouldn't judge historical persons with todays criterions but
@avmkaya The only true criterion through the ages is laying within each man and it is the inner sence of good and evil. Alexander's name is still respected (and even worshipped) yet today (Kallash, afgani currency etc) by those who were "conquered"by him. On the contrary, mogols,hunns turks, have left their mark on mankind's consciousness as a menace, the wrath of god, a plague. It may be "politically correct" to say "they had civilization" but still it would be untrue to the eyes of people.
@TAGMATAGMATON it's only your idea. alexander razed persepolis which was one of the greatest cities in the history and he made massacres in thermessos. These are only a few examples. On the other hand, if Turks wanted to destroy cultures and nations, be sure you didnt know your greek identity.
@avmkaya Turks did try to elliminate populations and cultures just as they did with the armenians, the pontians,the assyrians but never succeded. Even greeks suffered for 400 years the turkish occupation. Yenicari is the most famous method of degenerating the races turks occupied but greek self preserving mechanism was to consider the abdocted boys and women out of the greek community. Therefore when revolution occured the greeks knew they were pure descendants of their ancestors.
@dogierez1 Best turkish architect was the one who one day got out of his tent and accidentally raised his head upwards. Then he realized that he couldn't live in a tent any more since byzantines could built palaces and cathedrals with domes and arches higher than small hills. Many centuries later he decided he is ready to join EU. But "they" would never accept him. WHY ?
Turks never care to be 'accepted' by 'others'. If they want something, they just take it.Some 'others' must think what they did to their own brothers signing the 'treaty of Serves'.If Turks would wanted to be european they would accept Treaty of Serves and give their own lands to England,Italy and France.But they didnt sell their lands and fought for it in the name of their anatolian anchestors.'others' must think twice before speaking!
@Turoyan Do Turkish people actually originate in modern day Turkey though? Im just curious because so many other peoples arnt actually native to their present day lands.
my friend,modern Turks in Turkey are genetically and culturally more native to Turkey, because central asian Turks mixed with native anatolians instead of destroying them.DNA results and language(full of native anatolian words) is a proof of that.Modern Turks in Anatolia(asia minor) are Galatian,Tracian,Trojan,Lydian,Hittitian..origined people more than asian Turks.Both Turks and native anatolians are our ancestors.
@TAGMATAGMATON Even the Swedish schools teach that the Ottomans ruling before there that they wasnt like any other empire that had risen.. compared to all the other empires throu out our history we are tought Ottomans was one of the greatest.. wih greatest i mean in a positive way not in the bad way like Hitler or any alike.. you gotta read up deep in that history to know these kinds of stuff and not just shout out stuff u were tought by your parents
i've visited Historical museums about this aswell, becouse im into stuff like that.. stuff that you mention is a overdraft of something lighter.. now im not saying that the turks were angels but i am saying that they were not as ice cold killers as other empires were.. thats why they were able to rule with no problem for 700-800 years before persians made it fall for their jelousy of that big control. this is common facts you can read up about.
@avmkaya Dont't forget that turkey was condamned by many countries including USA, France e.tc. for genocides, especially the armenian one. And this is only about the 20th century. After all it is well known that turks, as mongols they are, dont't have any history but a huge criminal record.
@TAGMATAGMATON criterions of their own ages. Today if a leader invade a country, everybody calls him as a vandal. But everybody calls their old invader-leaders as a "Conquer". See you...
I hope I don't offend, but to anyone interested, Jesus warned there is evil in this world posing as an 'angel of light'. leading people into false teachings. It's one of the main teachings that he applied to all ages, that we should be on the watch. The path to salvation is narrow and it starts with true heartfelt repentance and then turning around and doing what is right. No amount of sound frequencies and mantras can bring freedom and salvation, but can make us spirituality vulnerable.
Şunu bilki İslamiyet asla ve asla bir ırk dini olmamıştır İslamiyet Dünyadaki tek evrensel dindir!Ve İnsan ayrımı yapmaz arabıda yunanıda türküde kürtüde japonuna da iSlamiyete göre aynı haklara ve aynı sorumluluklara sahiptir!
@TheBattulga Turks are not mongols and Mongols are not Turks! All of the Turanian People are Turkish (Oghuzs [Turkey's and Azerbaijani Turks] , Nogays , Khazaks , Newgurs , Usbegs and more) I live in Turkey, so im speaking in Modern Oghuz Turkish, It's a little hard to understand this song's lyrics but I can.
@okcu1453 we central asians are not Turkish. We are turkic people. Turkic =/= Turkish, keep that in your mind. We are genetically related with each other but not with you, Turkish guys.
@aizhan1001 Who called central asians as Turkish? Turan is not Central Asia -.- I spoke about Turanian People. And if you are from a turkic people that means you are turkish dude. Don't seperate yourself. Perhaps you are from a diffrent Turkish Tribe but that changes nothing. We have same language family , close culture and genetic similarities. Isn't these ties strong enough? If you are Turkic but from another nation , I must be a spaceling then
@okcu1453 The Kazakhs are central asians turkic people, and they are not Turkish. Language is nothing compared to genetics. We are not genetically related with the Turkish. You are completely different to our culture.
So you're the mankurt Cengiz Aytmatov wrote about in Gün Olur Yüzyıl Olur, right?
I am 25% Kypchak and 75% Oghuz. My ancestors fought for Temür, Cengiz, İlteriş, Kür Şad, Bumin, Batur (Mete) and all the others. Who the fuck are you to tell me that I'm Turkish but not Turkic?
@SadaEKE enough. I have already understood the way Turkish propaganda works. You are just turkic speaking people. Look at the mirror and accept the truth. You don't look like central asian mongoloid person. That is why we are turkic and you are Turkish. No offence.
Who is the founder of Göktürk Khanate? It is us, Oğuz Türks. You think our language came to us from the sky?
Besides, skull shape isn't enough for the race. No decent scientist take that seriously anymore. Phenotype treats change easily with geography, weather conditions and feeding.
Türk Oğuz begleri, bodun, işitin üze Tengri basmasar asra yer telinmeser Türk bodun ilinin, törüngün kim artatı udaçı erti.
@SadaEKE look at your genepool. You have only about 5-7% of mongoloid genes. I can not understand why don't you respect your true ancestors (indigenious people of Turkey) as if they did not exist at all.
Ah, you mean Hitits, Urartus etc. You're partialy right about that but not as you think. And why would I denounce them if I was one of'em? Since they are the oldest known civilization, right?
Do you have any knowledge or education about history of Anatolia? Any idea what or who I am? Who my ancestors are?
Enough with the mongoloid nonsense. No scientist agrees with that propagandist theory. It's all about geographycal phenotype. How many times do I have to say that?
@SadaEKE I don't make you say anything)) I am just convinced that true turkic people look mongoloid, have mongoloid genepool, have nomadic lifestyle, are turkic speakers. Turkish people have only part of these features, which is language, and that means they have different origin.
Tell me one thing: If you are a Mongol how many words do you share with Mongolians and how many with us?
Where do you think our language comes from, heaven?
I know my seven grand fathers from both my father and mother side. They are all Türks. My ancestors fought for Timur abd Genghis. How many of your grand parents sucked Russian cock? Why do you keep saying "mongoloid" and repeat Indo-Europian lies?
BTW, half of mother side is Yörük who have all all those feats.
@SadaEKE listen, I said MONGOLOIDS (which is race), not MONGOLIANS (which is nationality).
You can speak English language, but it doesn't mean that you are an Englishman, right? The same way, if you speak turkic language, it doesn't mean that you have turkic origin. About Amir Temir and Shyngys don't make me lough))). It sounds stupid. Explore your DNA and calm down, please. All the world knows the true except the Turkish.
@okcu1453 r u a moron? central asia is composed of finno ugric, iranian, and turkic tribes. The magyers are ethnically finno ugric ...The term Turk-ish denotes to modern residents of Turkey...
The Hungarian people, even the people suspected to be most Turk-like, are genetically similar to the Slavs around them, with very litte differences. They are not Turkic.
@MrEmretti I'm not familiar with a lot of them having eyes like that, but I've heard of some Scandinavians having this (like Bjork). Khoi-San in Southern Africa - most of them, actually - have epicanthal folds. As do people with Down Syndrome or Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. That doesn't mean that ANY of these people have Asian ancestry though ... or Siberian ancestry or Turkic either.
@zhzhuiui ye ye ye :D it was all that you had found to explain :D haha first !!! we know there was some tribe which name was Torok taht immigrated to scandinavia centrys ago... secon !!! sami , nenets all of them has C dna , so asian !!! dont tell me your shit janke. your history is not valid in asia or in turkey any more !!! even in hungary ... There are 200 mil turkic spoken people arround the world ! just %30 of them has mongoloid DNA ...
@MrEmretti Not sure what you are talking about because your posts contradict each other. Are you claiming that Slavs and Hungarians living in Eastern Europe have Mongol/Siberian Turkic DNA? Y or N?
@zhzhuiui what maygar ? there is no hungarian ( ogur türk ) ! there are magyar or turkic in hungaria. secon i did not ask about slavs. i asked about nenets sami people ( mongoloid people of siberia ) ...
This theory has been made by the Habsburgs(proven) to hide our identity.
genes is the same, because long ago we lived in the entire Carpathian Basin, rather than Slavs (only a small proportion of Slavs, Swabians, etc.), but in ancient writings (from Anonymous it is the name of the writer, search it.). expressly found that the Hun-Avar Scythian ancestry.Our goverment is a post soviet(zionist - liberalist) shit. They are take our history, overwhelm loan ..
@19682willem Because I asked a straightforward question - not aggressive, just out of curiosity. And then you responded with some long convoluted answer. If you didn't want to answer, you could just say that you don't share personal details over the internet or something like that.
thas ist kein türkish kirkiztanish und kazakish das ist mongolish. sheisse musik sheisse tükisch. türkisch hat keine Shaman. sie hat scheisse musalman
mongols, kazakh, kyrgyz, uzbek, buryat, kalmik and lots of other nations are different nations and moreover hate each other. I mean - mostly. We were together long long time ago but now... It's just true.
Yani diyorsun ki göktürkler asında türk değildi:))) türk tarihi talas savaşından sonra başlıyor tabii haklısın:))Bilmiyorsan söyleyim Türklük bir ırk-köken adıdır müslümanlık da bir dindir.Senin gibiler yüzünden kimse müslümanları sevmiyor,şaman yazısını görüp dur birkaç hakaret yazayım dedin değil mi? ne de olsa müslümansın başka inançlara ve kültürlere hakaret edip sevap toplaman gerekiyor.
@gemlikli161 bence sizin aileyi araplar fazla döllemiş. birincisi müslümanlık inançtır. kanında dnada bulunmaz. bizler müslümanlık dünyaya inmeden çok daha önce varlığımızı sürdürüyorduk. yani müslümanlık olmadan da türk olunabiliyormuş di mi?
Şunu bilki İslamiyet asla ve asla bir ırk dini olmamıştır İslamiyet Dünyadaki tek evrensel dindir!Ve İnsan ayrımı yapmaz arabıda yunanıda türküde kürtüde japonuna da iSlamiyete göre aynı haklara ve aynı sorumluluklara sahiptir!
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MrVigo73 5 days ago
Does anyone know the lyrics to this song? Both the original and the english translation. Atleast the original name of the song, I can't find it anywhere else.
Afrothecat 1 week ago
great song
spellmaker92xD 1 week ago
Üdv minden sztyeppei testvérnek innen Magyarországról! :) Remélem valaki érti :))
MaReekaka 1 week ago 3
@MaReekaka Értem szavad testvér!
karaulkhan 6 days ago
Respect from Turkey brothers... We miss TÜRKİSTAN
Eastanbul1 1 week ago
FUS RO DAH!!
MegaDuCKstar 2 weeks ago
1:25 how are you allowed to show a woman's nipple, yet i'm not allowed to show the head of my penis?
jason200912 2 weeks ago
@jason200912 because no1 wants to see your pimply cock
TheTimeSphere 1 week ago
fantastic music... first time listen , already in love with it...
Lu3Zak 2 weeks ago
bir gün tüm türk halklarıyla çin seddinde buluşacağız
TheKillamemet 2 weeks ago
@TheKillamemet insallah bulusacagiz turk halklari insallah! o gunler yarindanda yakin
AntiPdxxxx 2 weeks ago
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caspiansix 2 weeks ago
wow.this is awesome.great work
LookAtThatBigNameYo 2 weeks ago
TURAN
CcC
bozkurtcCctr 3 weeks ago
i love Huun Huur Tu
simplydeva 3 weeks ago 3
Müthiş
dumankolik41 3 weeks ago
beğenmeyenin bemeğeenmyenin xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx anladınızdd
sanalikaish 3 weeks ago
и еще не путайте тюрков с монгодами это в 10 15 веке обсолютно два разных сообщества тюрки больше относились к словянам а не монголоязычным !!!
80kazan 3 weeks ago
не знаю очем вы уважаемые но вчемто довольно схожее пение с украинским (малороским
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80kazan 3 weeks ago
Sözleri aklım anlamıyor ama kalbim biliyor, anlıyor. İnsan görmediği, ayak basmadığı toprakları özler mi? Ben özlüyorum...
arfmin1 3 weeks ago 29
@arfmin1 duygularıma bundan daha iyi tercüman olamazdın dostum ağzına sağlık...
Area51Sim 3 days ago
Harika olmus!
ugentera1 3 weeks ago
красивая песня - Мне очень нравится
tatry13 3 weeks ago
La vidéo autant que la musique sont une invitation au voyage. Je me laisse facilement, et pour mon plus grand plaisir, transporter spirituellement.
llandspirit 4 weeks ago
bu sharki hic hoshuma gitmedi...
ThePyroKills 1 month ago
Who is tur at 0:32
kaplinbaa 1 month ago
Cok guzel turkce duyuluyo ;p
kaplinbaa 1 month ago
what is the music?
mirochkamirochka 1 month ago
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Huun-Huur-Tu... Daŋgyna (Princess)
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antejutronic 1 month ago
No se vale!! Cómo se llama la canción? name of the song...?
Laulanmad 1 month ago
englishfilm.ru/archives/5022
here's a link to the English version of this film. before writing any nonsense look at film though. Strain the brain
kepblood 1 month ago
три вопроса причисляющим себя к монголам тюркам: 1. к какой расе вы относитесь? 2. какую религию исповедуете? 3. изначальное значение монгольского слова хан?
а теперь возьмите книжку и найдите ответы монголов. и не лгите сами себе..
Three questions to consider themselves Turks Mongols: 1. to which race you belong to? 2. profess the religion? 3. original meaning of the word Mongol Khan?
And now take a book and find the answers of the Mongols. and do not lie to yourself ..
kepblood 1 month ago
@kepblood я - казашка из рода керей. Отвечаю на вопросы: 1. к монголоидной; 2. ислам, хоть и чисто формально; 3. слово хан - тюркское, набери в гугле "происхождение слова хан". Кереи и некоторые другие племена имеют неясное происхождение, но их правители имели тюркские титулы и имена. Я считаю, что они были тюрками, которых Шынгыс хан называл "монголами". Абсолютно ясно следующее: некоторые казахские племена, будучи тюркоязычными, назывались монголами в 13 веке.
aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001 я не знаю какая ты казашка но все знакомые мне казахи всегда с содроганием вспоминают само слово чингиз-хан и воевали с монголами на протяжении столетий. монголы исповедуют или шаманизм или буддизм и никогда не принимали ислам так как это религия побежденных. в гугле много чуши пишут и ты не ответила что означает дословно хан по-монгольски, поверь я сам монгол наполовину.в 13 веке казахи резались насмерть с монголам и уж точно монголами себя не называли.
kepblood 1 month ago
@kepblood давайте не обзывать оседлых побежденными. Когда завоеватели ассимилируются с побежденными и принимают их веру, это ли не реальная победа? Насчет предков казахов, то с кем они только не воевали. В результате, у нас смешанный генофонд. У нас нет содрогания перед Шынгыс ханом, с чего бы? у нас ведь есть род торе, кажется их около 250 000 человек. Они его прямые потомки.
aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001 великая загадка монголов в том что они не ассимилировались ни с кем а просто ушли)) а у монгольского хана было много дочерей и их надо было пристраивать и с соседями проще породнится чем вырезать их. и родня хана и род это две большие разницы. в русских царях к примеру русской крови процента 2)) но это не дает повода называть русских немцами. и чингизид не обязательно монгол)) и кстати с каких пор казахи стали оседлыми?)) уж точно не монголы к этому руку приложили) .
kepblood 1 month ago
@kepblood говоря об оседлых, я имела в виду жителей Самарканда и пр. Казахов не имела в виду, хотя мы с оседлыми иранцами смешались значительно.
aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001 и не пускай повозку впереди лошади)) это не у монголов тюркские титулы а у тюрков монгольские)) все -таки это монголы вырезали хорезм, самарканд и другие среднеазиатские города а не наоборот)) и повторюсь раз ты монголка то знаешь что такое хан)) вернее ghan так точнее))
kepblood 1 month ago
@aizhan1001 если быть точным то моя бабушка бурятка из рода миркитов и поверь она бы долго смеялась услышав про тюркские корни монголов))
kepblood 1 month ago
@kepblood вы, конечно, понимаете, что историческая осведомленность вашей бабушки не является аргументом. У казахов тоже есть род "меркит". Повторюсь, мы не монголы в современном понимании этого слова. Наши предки тюрки, которые жили на своих исторически тюркских землях, входили в объединение средневековых монголов. И я не монголка, а казашка))
aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001 да осведомленность моей бабушки не аргумент)) но вы аппелируете такими же) и в землях казахов есть меркиты но они не тюрки)) как и кереиты и множество других племен БЕЖАВШИХ в казахские степи. вы еще про казахский род под именем чечен скажите вместе с ними и посмеемся)) тоже в казахстане живут. как и почему они туда попали объяснять не надо надеюсь? и вы именно монголка а не казашка ... по крови))
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aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001 кереиты относятся к роду монголов так называемые черные монголы хэрэ. и говорили они на монгольском языке. а потом сбежали с родины к тюркам и с ними ассимилировались. а тюрков в забайкалье кроме татар не было никогда.
kepblood 1 month ago
@kepblood хорошо, вы считайте, что кереиты были монголоязычными, а я буду считать, что кереи всегда были тюркоязычными.
aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001 считать можно что угодно)) только я не считаю я знаю.. в монголии род хэрэ до сих пор существует)).
kepblood 1 month ago
@kepblood да и я знаю, что мы тюрки. У нас род керей тоже существует. Я думаю, что кереев казахов гораздо больше чем хэрэ в монголии. В Монголии много тюркских племен, как я поняла.
aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001 ))) упертость дело похвальное только когда квадрат переталкивать надо)) уйгуров вон в китае тоже больше.. только родина их узбекистан. и они тоже искренне считают себя китайцами
kepblood 1 month ago
@kepblood уйгуры - граждане КНР только в политическом смысле. Этнически они и ханьцы - "две вещи несовместны". А мы тут вроде как этнические аспекты обсуждали. Насчет родины уйгуров Узбекистана, это вы круто перегнули. Первый раз слышу, похоже на чушь.
aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001 если вы что то первый раз слышите это не значит что это чушь)) узбекистан переводится как стоянка узбека. был такой хан)) этнически кстати благодаря компартии китая уйгуры и ханьцы уже давно говорят на мандарине и все считают себя едиными китайцами разных родов)) или лежат прикопанные в канавах( кто учить и считать не захотел) так кстати и с хэрэ ушедшими в казахстан было ( в то время все еще проще решалось).
kepblood 4 weeks ago
@kepblood уйгуры так не считают. Иначе ханьцы не говорили бы, что "три зла", с которыми они борются, включают терроризм, сепаратизм и еще что-то. Видно, вы совсем не знаете о жизни Центральной Азии. Насчет кереев я вам сказала, что мы тюрки. Упертости вам не занимать, но убедить вы не можете. Смиритесь уже.
aizhan1001 4 weeks ago
@aizhan1001 убеждать фанатика дело неблагодарное увольте)) и ханьцы говоря про три зла имеют в виду тибетцев а никак не уйгуров.. видимо вы тоже все новости находите на канале обс.. дискуссию на сем считаю закрытой так как вашу позицию я понял и дальнейший спор считаю просто неинтересным..
kepblood 4 weeks ago
@aizhan1001 лично вы уважаемая себя можете считать хоть марсианкой это ваше личное право)) у нас да и у вас свободная страна))
kepblood 1 month ago
@aizhan1001 и вообще советую почитать летописи чингиз-хана в монгольском издании или посмотреть китайский сериал "чингиз-хан" по этим летописям поставленный там кстати и про кереитов есть все подробно. очень кстати познавательный фильм первый сезон по крайней мере.
kepblood 1 month ago
@kepblood по фильмам историю не изучают)) тюрки имели опыт государства раньше монголоязычных племен. Именно тюркская система государственности легла в основу государства Шынгыс хана. И письменность монголы использовали древнеуйгурскую. И сражались в войсках Шынгыс хана тоже тюрки.
aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001 я не спорю что именно кереитская урга стала основой государства монголов я хочу понять с какого боку вы кереитов тюрками называете?)) и кстати историю учу далеко не по фильмам)) когда кереиты были разбиты темучжином они бежали в казахские степи но при чем тут казахи в частности и тюрки в общем? то что вы сейчас говорите по тюркски не означает что на нем говорили ваши предки. вы именно монголка)) говорящая по тюркски. но монголка)) вынужденный эмигрант так сказать))
kepblood 1 month ago
@kepblood я считаю, полагаясь на ряд исследователей вопроса, что кереи - народ тюркский и является частью не одного, а нескольких тюркских народов. У казахов их больше всего. Я, казашка рода керей, прошу вас даже не пытаться убеждать меня в том, что мой род не имеет отношения к тюркам.
aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001 и называть кереитов казахами кстати по крайней мере некорректно)) учи историю своего народа она достойна уважения))
kepblood 1 month ago
@kepblood почему это нельзя называть кереев казахами? я вот, например, казашка и я же керей. Вы сами почитайте побольше и тюркские корни монголов 13 века вас не будут удивлять. Тогрул - древнее тюркское имя. Ер-Тогрул - был такой тюрк, военачальник огузов, которые ушли в Анатолию до 13 века. Кстати, современная Монголия находится на территории древнего Восточного Тюркского каганата. Слово "каганат" вам ни о чем не говорит?
aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001 Кереиты (хэрээд от монг. кэрэ, хэрэ, «во́рон» и -ид, уд, д — монг. суффикс мн. числа) — союз племён, обитавших на современных территориях Забайкалья и Монголии в X—XIII веках. Имели свою письменность, государство и законы. Граничили на севере с енисейскийми киргизами, на востоке — с монголами, на западе — с найманами, меркитами, на юге — с татарами. Имели 2 столицы, одна из которых Өргө (Урга), позднее стала столицей империи Чингисхана — Каракорумом.
ну и где тут тюрки?
kepblood 1 month ago
@kepblood территория современной Монголии и Алтай - это древняя историческая родина тюркских народов. Там расположены наши памятники и захоронения. И как можно спрашивать, при чем тут тюрки? Что-то вы совсем не объективный, скрепя сердце, признайте уже, что тюрки не исчезли с лица земли, как только родился Шынгыс хан.
aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001 а имя ван-хан вам ни о чем не говорит? и его судьба в особенности? кереиты не тюрки. это как поволжских немцев русскими назвать. казахи не спорю приютили кереитов но почему то вы до сих пор называете себя керей а не казахэ...
и исконно кереиты относятся к монголо-алтайской языковой группе а не к тюркской хотя и знают тюркский)) как те же поволжские немцы знают русский причем лучше немецкого))
kepblood 1 month ago
god bless to all the turkish people........
sharkman3535 1 month ago
Turanic is more Persian centric. Altaic is more Sinocentric. Turan is Zoroaster. While in Altaic cultures. You can see Chinese symbols like the dragon and the Chinese zodiac all the way to Hungary.
Lordofthenipplerings 1 month ago
Turanic isnt Altaic. They have similar cultures in that they are nomadic. But linguistically and genetically, they came from different points.
Lordofthenipplerings 1 month ago
mongols are not Turks...its not easy to be a TURK...ım Turk and proud of being Turk...Huns...Gokturks..uighurs...Kırghız...are Turks.Cenghjis khan was mongol but his army was 95 percent Turks..There was a few mongols in his hand ..Turks made war and mongols were proud of it..
MrHunEagle 1 month ago
@MrHunEagle There are Türks, who are living in S-Mongolia! :)
Tao1519 1 month ago
@MrHunEagle вы сами этим унизили свой народ. с вашей точки зрения было так: к великому и могучему народу тюрков пришла горстка каких-то монголов и сказала - а давайте мы вами будем управлять. турки тут же согласились и начали подчинятся монголам непонятно почему.... вы сами этот бред слышите?
kepblood 1 month ago
@MrHunEagle you do it humiliated its people. In your opinion was this: a great and mighty people of the Turks came to a handful of some of the Mongols, and said - and let's you we'll manage. Turks immediately agreed and started to obey the Mongols do not know why .... you do hear this nonsense?
kepblood 1 month ago
SingerDakini ... seems to me you deleted my post yesterday can I know WHY..!
I wrote GOD BLESS All people who carry the sublime Turkic DNA ..be proud to have this kind of blood in your veins ... NE MUTLU TURKUM DIYENE ...
clickright 1 month ago
who the hell said that turks are mongols? i have been reading this shit in the youtube.
raihitler 1 month ago
ı am turk
sukelata 1 month ago
Ne mutlu Türküm Diyene Kazak,Özbek,Kırgız,Oğuz,Tatar,Moğol'um Diyene
Ne Mutlu Türkistanlıya
ucarturk 1 month ago
Im turkish and can understand few words and grammer seems to be similar
cancnar 1 month ago
@cancnar Because Turks are also of Mongolian descent.
AndyRaslan 1 month ago
@AndyRaslan
Nope. Turks and Mongolians are both Altaic/Turanic nations but neither is the descendant of the other. So thay are cousins not father and sons.
SadaEKE 1 month ago
Huns, Turks, Fins, Tatars, Uyghurs...Attila, Ataturk, Fatih Sultan Mehmed(II.), Oguz Khan... Different names, different words, different religions but one spirit and origin. God bless all Turanic people on the world. Hail from Turkey!!!
avmkaya 1 month ago 20
@avmkaya ... Very well said Kardeshim .. very well said , may the OMNIPOTENT THE HIGHEST GOD ALLAH -TANRI - TENGRI bless people who carry a SUBLIME TURKIC BLOOD , in their veins . Thanks for sharing Dear SingerDakini
clickright 1 month ago
@avmkaya монголы сильно посмеются над твоими словами . твои тюрки убегали от монголов впереди ветра. не примазывайся. учи историю
the Mongols much laugh at thy words. Your Turks fleeing from the Mongols in front of the wind. do not attach themselves. teach history
kepblood 1 month ago
@kepblood монголы 13 века и есть тюрки. С чего бы им убегать от самих себя?
mongols of 13 century were composed from turkic tribes.
aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001 о господи... вас совсем истории не учат...
O Lord ... you just do not teach history ...
kepblood 1 month ago
@avmkaya What is this? A criminal list?
TAGMATAGMATON 1 month ago
@TAGMATAGMATON Ask to your mom. She knows them vey well.
avmkaya 1 month ago
@avmkaya My mom is a district attorney so I did ask her. And you know what? She told me I was right. Indeed they are a bunch of uncivilized,low life barbarians, looting,stealing and murdering people who managed to do a little better than living in tents and wandering the steppes. Always attracted by other people's wealth unable to put on stone upon another on their own.
TAGMATAGMATON 1 month ago
@TAGMATAGMATON Ok my friend i am a lawyer too. So i dont want say bad things against my colleague's child. But you have prejudice against Turks. Because you criticize Turkic leaders and commanders but you like Alexander the great. You know that he destroyed many cities and killed a lot of people. So for criterions Alexander must be called "barbarian killer". Of course he is not a killer, he was a great general. Shortly; you shouldn't judge historical persons with todays criterions but
avmkaya 1 month ago
@avmkaya The only true criterion through the ages is laying within each man and it is the inner sence of good and evil. Alexander's name is still respected (and even worshipped) yet today (Kallash, afgani currency etc) by those who were "conquered"by him. On the contrary, mogols,hunns turks, have left their mark on mankind's consciousness as a menace, the wrath of god, a plague. It may be "politically correct" to say "they had civilization" but still it would be untrue to the eyes of people.
TAGMATAGMATON 1 month ago
@TAGMATAGMATON it's only your idea. alexander razed persepolis which was one of the greatest cities in the history and he made massacres in thermessos. These are only a few examples. On the other hand, if Turks wanted to destroy cultures and nations, be sure you didnt know your greek identity.
avmkaya 2 weeks ago
@avmkaya Turks did try to elliminate populations and cultures just as they did with the armenians, the pontians,the assyrians but never succeded. Even greeks suffered for 400 years the turkish occupation. Yenicari is the most famous method of degenerating the races turks occupied but greek self preserving mechanism was to consider the abdocted boys and women out of the greek community. Therefore when revolution occured the greeks knew they were pure descendants of their ancestors.
TAGMATAGMATON 2 weeks ago
@TAGMATAGMATON best greeks asre those fucked and bred from turkish ejeculation dude
dogierez1 2 weeks ago
@dogierez1 Best turkish architect was the one who one day got out of his tent and accidentally raised his head upwards. Then he realized that he couldn't live in a tent any more since byzantines could built palaces and cathedrals with domes and arches higher than small hills. Many centuries later he decided he is ready to join EU. But "they" would never accept him. WHY ?
TAGMATAGMATON 2 weeks ago
@TAGMATAGMATON
Turks never care to be 'accepted' by 'others'. If they want something, they just take it.Some 'others' must think what they did to their own brothers signing the 'treaty of Serves'.If Turks would wanted to be european they would accept Treaty of Serves and give their own lands to England,Italy and France.But they didnt sell their lands and fought for it in the name of their anatolian anchestors.'others' must think twice before speaking!
Turoyan 1 week ago
@Turoyan Do Turkish people actually originate in modern day Turkey though? Im just curious because so many other peoples arnt actually native to their present day lands.
221Dw 2 days ago
@221Dw
my friend,modern Turks in Turkey are genetically and culturally more native to Turkey, because central asian Turks mixed with native anatolians instead of destroying them.DNA results and language(full of native anatolian words) is a proof of that.Modern Turks in Anatolia(asia minor) are Galatian,Tracian,Trojan,Lydian,Hittitian..origined people more than asian Turks.Both Turks and native anatolians are our ancestors.
Turoyan 2 days ago
@Turoyan Ah hm a little confusing but thanks.
221Dw 1 day ago
@dogierez1 big pig grecos! big gay grecos! big dog grecos! big beach grecos! ok man!fuk you man
AntiPdxxxx 2 weeks ago
@TAGMATAGMATON Even the Swedish schools teach that the Ottomans ruling before there that they wasnt like any other empire that had risen.. compared to all the other empires throu out our history we are tought Ottomans was one of the greatest.. wih greatest i mean in a positive way not in the bad way like Hitler or any alike.. you gotta read up deep in that history to know these kinds of stuff and not just shout out stuff u were tought by your parents
serkiznatz 2 weeks ago 6
@TAGMATAGMATON
i've visited Historical museums about this aswell, becouse im into stuff like that.. stuff that you mention is a overdraft of something lighter.. now im not saying that the turks were angels but i am saying that they were not as ice cold killers as other empires were.. thats why they were able to rule with no problem for 700-800 years before persians made it fall for their jelousy of that big control. this is common facts you can read up about.
serkiznatz 2 weeks ago
@avmkaya Dont't forget that turkey was condamned by many countries including USA, France e.tc. for genocides, especially the armenian one. And this is only about the 20th century. After all it is well known that turks, as mongols they are, dont't have any history but a huge criminal record.
TAGMATAGMATON 2 weeks ago
@TAGMATAGMATON yawn.... no group is free of sin...inferior or superior....
wingwaabuddha 2 weeks ago
@wingwaabuddha That comment of yours just opened you the gates of the way to the tuth.
TAGMATAGMATON 2 weeks ago
@TAGMATAGMATON criterions of their own ages. Today if a leader invade a country, everybody calls him as a vandal. But everybody calls their old invader-leaders as a "Conquer". See you...
avmkaya 1 month ago
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I hope I don't offend, but to anyone interested, Jesus warned there is evil in this world posing as an 'angel of light'. leading people into false teachings. It's one of the main teachings that he applied to all ages, that we should be on the watch. The path to salvation is narrow and it starts with true heartfelt repentance and then turning around and doing what is right. No amount of sound frequencies and mantras can bring freedom and salvation, but can make us spirituality vulnerable.
nevernextdoor1 2 months ago
wonderful
tinitussi21 2 months ago
they are turkish swords
disciiples 2 months ago
their god is the sky and land around them this is the only definiton of the freedom am I wright my litlle brother ALEX
alexmecaful 2 months ago
Bonito video
CENSURATUBE1 2 months ago
@TheKavkazTurk öncelikle malsın vede yanda gördüm bakıyım dedim nebok gib müziktir ya :D:D
damar369 2 months ago
KIZIN İSMİ NE YAHU COK GİZELİMİŞ :D
onurstar 2 months ago
heeeyhoo like nigerian folk music from forests
asian brothers i am asian too
greetings from nigeria
we did not forget
x art blood is living in my veins
cosarkey 2 months ago
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Eveet!! müzik muhtesem olmus. Tebrik ederim!
twisterxyz 2 months ago
Ah şu saçma sapan kavgaları bırakıp birlik olabilsek
fatihburcu 2 months ago
соляная шахта soltsymphoni.ucoz.ru/
vladimir5031 2 months ago
Birbinize gireceginize musigi dinleyin.Cok guzel elline saglik olsun!!!
1Yanula 2 months ago
İslamiyeti arap inancı olarak ilişkendirmek yaptığınız n büyük ayıp ve günahtır!
gemlikli161 2 months ago
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Şunu bilki İslamiyet asla ve asla bir ırk dini olmamıştır İslamiyet Dünyadaki tek evrensel dindir!Ve İnsan ayrımı yapmaz arabıda yunanıda türküde kürtüde japonuna da iSlamiyete göre aynı haklara ve aynı sorumluluklara sahiptir!
gemlikli161 2 months ago
Türkiyedekilerin hepsi türk değilki. Gemlikli de bir Arap dönmesinin dölünden olduğu belli.
zuikos 3 months ago
Sözleri bile var mı? / Does anyone know the lyrics?
selfgod 3 months ago
Fantasztikusan gyönyörű,léleképítő muzsika !!!
Bandita330 3 months ago
Great Mongol nation!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheBattulga 3 months ago 8
@TheBattulga Turks are not mongols and Mongols are not Turks! All of the Turanian People are Turkish (Oghuzs [Turkey's and Azerbaijani Turks] , Nogays , Khazaks , Newgurs , Usbegs and more) I live in Turkey, so im speaking in Modern Oghuz Turkish, It's a little hard to understand this song's lyrics but I can.
okcu1453 3 months ago
@okcu1453 we central asians are not Turkish. We are turkic people. Turkic =/= Turkish, keep that in your mind. We are genetically related with each other but not with you, Turkish guys.
aizhan1001 2 months ago
@aizhan1001 Who called central asians as Turkish? Turan is not Central Asia -.- I spoke about Turanian People. And if you are from a turkic people that means you are turkish dude. Don't seperate yourself. Perhaps you are from a diffrent Turkish Tribe but that changes nothing. We have same language family , close culture and genetic similarities. Isn't these ties strong enough? If you are Turkic but from another nation , I must be a spaceling then
okcu1453 2 months ago
@okcu1453 The Kazakhs are central asians turkic people, and they are not Turkish. Language is nothing compared to genetics. We are not genetically related with the Turkish. You are completely different to our culture.
aizhan1001 2 months ago
@aizhan1001
So you're the mankurt Cengiz Aytmatov wrote about in Gün Olur Yüzyıl Olur, right?
I am 25% Kypchak and 75% Oghuz. My ancestors fought for Temür, Cengiz, İlteriş, Kür Şad, Bumin, Batur (Mete) and all the others. Who the fuck are you to tell me that I'm Turkish but not Turkic?
Git kendini ruslara siktir soyu bozuk piç!
SadaEKE 1 month ago
@SadaEKE enough. I have already understood the way Turkish propaganda works. You are just turkic speaking people. Look at the mirror and accept the truth. You don't look like central asian mongoloid person. That is why we are turkic and you are Turkish. No offence.
aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001
Who is the founder of Göktürk Khanate? It is us, Oğuz Türks. You think our language came to us from the sky?
Besides, skull shape isn't enough for the race. No decent scientist take that seriously anymore. Phenotype treats change easily with geography, weather conditions and feeding.
Türk Oğuz begleri, bodun, işitin üze Tengri basmasar asra yer telinmeser Türk bodun ilinin, törüngün kim artatı udaçı erti.
Don't be a europian puppet. We are Türks.
SadaEKE 1 month ago
@SadaEKE look at your genepool. You have only about 5-7% of mongoloid genes. I can not understand why don't you respect your true ancestors (indigenious people of Turkey) as if they did not exist at all.
aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001
Ah, you mean Hitits, Urartus etc. You're partialy right about that but not as you think. And why would I denounce them if I was one of'em? Since they are the oldest known civilization, right?
Do you have any knowledge or education about history of Anatolia? Any idea what or who I am? Who my ancestors are?
Enough with the mongoloid nonsense. No scientist agrees with that propagandist theory. It's all about geographycal phenotype. How many times do I have to say that?
SadaEKE 1 month ago
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aizhan1001 1 month ago
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@SadaEKE I don't make you say anything)) I am just convinced that true turkic people look mongoloid, have mongoloid genepool, have nomadic lifestyle, are turkic speakers. Turkish people have only part of these features, which is language, and that means they have different origin.
aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001
Tell me one thing: If you are a Mongol how many words do you share with Mongolians and how many with us?
Where do you think our language comes from, heaven?
I know my seven grand fathers from both my father and mother side. They are all Türks. My ancestors fought for Timur abd Genghis. How many of your grand parents sucked Russian cock? Why do you keep saying "mongoloid" and repeat Indo-Europian lies?
BTW, half of mother side is Yörük who have all all those feats.
SadaEKE 1 month ago
@SadaEKE listen, I said MONGOLOIDS (which is race), not MONGOLIANS (which is nationality).
You can speak English language, but it doesn't mean that you are an Englishman, right? The same way, if you speak turkic language, it doesn't mean that you have turkic origin. About Amir Temir and Shyngys don't make me lough))). It sounds stupid. Explore your DNA and calm down, please. All the world knows the true except the Turkish.
aizhan1001 1 month ago
@aizhan1001
1- What you said has been proven wrong decades ago.
2- So you know my own grand parents better than me? Sorry god, didn't know it was you.
SadaEKE 1 month ago
@okcu1453 r u a moron? central asia is composed of finno ugric, iranian, and turkic tribes. The magyers are ethnically finno ugric ...The term Turk-ish denotes to modern residents of Turkey...
FucKkhazarJews 2 months ago
@FucKkhazarJews
skytians - huns and magors- magyers
Hungarians aint finnugric.. thats a habsburg history cheat for delete the real hungarian history
19682willem 2 months ago
@19682willem
@Tao1519
The Hungarian language is clearly Finno-Ugric.
en wikipedia org/wiki/Hungarian_language
The Hungarian people, even the people suspected to be most Turk-like, are genetically similar to the Slavs around them, with very litte differences. They are not Turkic.
6w nature com/ejhg/journal/v8/n5/abs/5200468a.html
6w ncbi.nlm.nih gov/pubmed/17632797
zhzhuiui 2 months ago
@zhzhuiui what about siberian looklike slavic people ?
MrEmretti 2 months ago
@MrEmretti Could you please try rephrasing? I don't understand your question. Thanks.
zhzhuiui 2 months ago
@zhzhuiui i asked you about siberian looking slavic people with split eyes ...
MrEmretti 2 months ago
@MrEmretti I'm not familiar with a lot of them having eyes like that, but I've heard of some Scandinavians having this (like Bjork). Khoi-San in Southern Africa - most of them, actually - have epicanthal folds. As do people with Down Syndrome or Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. That doesn't mean that ANY of these people have Asian ancestry though ... or Siberian ancestry or Turkic either.
zhzhuiui 1 month ago
@zhzhuiui ye ye ye :D it was all that you had found to explain :D haha first !!! we know there was some tribe which name was Torok taht immigrated to scandinavia centrys ago... secon !!! sami , nenets all of them has C dna , so asian !!! dont tell me your shit janke. your history is not valid in asia or in turkey any more !!! even in hungary ... There are 200 mil turkic spoken people arround the world ! just %30 of them has mongoloid DNA ...
MrEmretti 1 month ago
@MrEmretti Not sure what you are talking about because your posts contradict each other. Are you claiming that Slavs and Hungarians living in Eastern Europe have Mongol/Siberian Turkic DNA? Y or N?
zhzhuiui 1 month ago
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@zhzhuiui what maygar ? there is no hungarian ( ogur türk ) ! there are magyar or turkic in hungaria. secon i did not ask about slavs. i asked about nenets sami people ( mongoloid people of siberia ) ...
MrEmretti 1 month ago
@zhzhuiui so in your aspect !!! with that %30 we cant be asian :D if we were thinking like western ...
MrEmretti 1 month ago
@MrEmretti Who is "we"? Are you Central Asian? Mongol? Hungarian? Or Turkish?
zhzhuiui 1 month ago
@zhzhuiui we arent finno-ugric.
This theory has been made by the Habsburgs(proven) to hide our identity.
genes is the same, because long ago we lived in the entire Carpathian Basin, rather than Slavs (only a small proportion of Slavs, Swabians, etc.), but in ancient writings (from Anonymous it is the name of the writer, search it.). expressly found that the Hun-Avar Scythian ancestry.Our goverment is a post soviet(zionist - liberalist) shit. They are take our history, overwhelm loan ..
19682willem 2 months ago
@19682willem I didn't say you were Finno-Ugric, I said that the language is.
Second, you make a lot of assertions, but provide no reliable sources. I provided mine. Where are yours?
zhzhuiui 2 months ago
@zhzhuiui
you misunderstood, I mentioned the source. find out that Gesta Ungarorum Anonymous.
Furthermore, it is strange that the Finno-Ugric peoples funeral (the most conservative) traditions is nowhere neither horse nor rider memory.
if the language is somewhat similar, it sure is a completely different way.
19682willem 2 months ago
@19682willem Exactly which claim are you trying to support by using Gesta Ungarorum as a source?
zhzhuiui 1 month ago
@zhzhuiui
sorry for late answer(and bad english) the skythian-hun-avar-magyar(hungarian)
19682willem 1 month ago
@19682willem So basically what you're saying is that you're just 100% troll.
zhzhuiui 1 month ago
@zhzhuiui and why?
if you really think this, you are naturally stupid.
19682willem 1 month ago
@19682willem Because I asked a straightforward question - not aggressive, just out of curiosity. And then you responded with some long convoluted answer. If you didn't want to answer, you could just say that you don't share personal details over the internet or something like that.
zhzhuiui 1 month ago
@zhzhuiui
hey bro.. im not aggressive..im happy to answer you, i like talking with people, especially meaningful and important things
19682willem 1 month ago
@zhzhuiui West edited all.
Remember, I told to the World's people.. Hungarians look like Mongols, Europeans.
Why do we look like Mongols (in Village for example) ? Why do we look like European (for example in big city)?
We aren't Slavs. We are a very big and very old nation. You say that, an old nation like our, don't know where did he come from? We remember.
And last: West and jews edit all. Edit our history, edit the education system... fuck these people. and hate the west!!!!!!!! morgen'. thx
Tao1519 1 month ago
@aizhan1001 kazaks are related to modern mongolians, the other central asians Turkmen and some uzbeks to afghans and Western Turks..
FucKkhazarJews 2 months ago
thas ist kein türkish kirkiztanish und kazakish das ist mongolish. sheisse musik sheisse tükisch. türkisch hat keine Shaman. sie hat scheisse musalman
TheSaarag 3 months ago
mongols, kazakh, kyrgyz, uzbek, buryat, kalmik and lots of other nations are different nations and moreover hate each other. I mean - mostly. We were together long long time ago but now... It's just true.
Beckjann84 3 months ago
tanri türkü korusun ve yüceltsin
Togarmaturk 4 months ago
The music is by Huun-Huur-Tu.
Dangyna from the If I'd been born an Eagle album.
HJkhys 4 months ago
kAFİRMSİNİZ MÜSLÜMAN OLMAYAN TÜRK TÜRK DEĞİLDİR EN ADİ ORUSPU ÇOCUĞUDUR.
gemlikli161 4 months ago
@gemlikli161
Yani diyorsun ki göktürkler asında türk değildi:))) türk tarihi talas savaşından sonra başlıyor tabii haklısın:))Bilmiyorsan söyleyim Türklük bir ırk-köken adıdır müslümanlık da bir dindir.Senin gibiler yüzünden kimse müslümanları sevmiyor,şaman yazısını görüp dur birkaç hakaret yazayım dedin değil mi? ne de olsa müslümansın başka inançlara ve kültürlere hakaret edip sevap toplaman gerekiyor.
zzeynepp18 4 months ago
@gemlikli161
Küfür et ondan sonra İslamdan bahset,defol git Call of Duty gibi oyunlara yorum yaz beyinsiz bebe seni.
DeliBasAli 4 months ago
@gemlikli161 sen ne turksun nede orta asyada at surmus sanli atalarinin adini agzina almaya layiksin siktir geber
ipnospkk 4 months ago
@gemlikli161 Sen Müslüman oldunda Orospu Çocuğu olmaktan kurtuldun mu şerefsiz? Senin Türk olmaktan haberin yok..
TheEmre2012 4 months ago
@gemlikli161 bence sizin aileyi araplar fazla döllemiş. birincisi müslümanlık inançtır. kanında dnada bulunmaz. bizler müslümanlık dünyaya inmeden çok daha önce varlığımızı sürdürüyorduk. yani müslümanlık olmadan da türk olunabiliyormuş di mi?
viveLaCifte 2 months ago
@viveLaCifte
Şunu bilki İslamiyet asla ve asla bir ırk dini olmamıştır İslamiyet Dünyadaki tek evrensel dindir!Ve İnsan ayrımı yapmaz arabıda yunanıda türküde kürtüde japonuna da iSlamiyete göre aynı haklara ve aynı sorumluluklara sahiptir!
gemlikli161 2 months ago