Dragonforce - Through the Fire and Flames (instrumental) live at Musikmesse 2010

[Misterkristo]

they are lip sync'ing so hard

[TheRAVENofHEART]

This video is a clear example as why, Sam made Herman the Lead Guitar Player...

Take a look, Dave's so into it... Herman's totally into it.. having the time of his life...

Sam... doesn't give a rats ass... :/ Well i suppose hes so sick of this song now... lol...

[juanvlogs1]

what you name chino

[zoroark30]

Herman was very animated throughout the show, do not understand why Sam was very serious, is the first time I see him so

[DragonforceFan73]

@zoroark30 sam is ussually totally stoned live, but sad looks nearly the sam

[Theblackspy12]

Dragonforce look like from japanese :o

[DragonforceFan73]

@Theblackspy12 Herman is chinese and sam and dave from uk

[StrixSymphony]

@DragonforceFan73 Herman is chinese and is from the UK

[MyFernir]

wooooowwwww se me mete el demonio (6)

[OfivetwoekVeeDee]

Youre name is funny

[Dylathyn]

Lookin' a little bald there, Hermin.

[abohsukampret]

Herman Li: Anyone play Guitar Hero here?

Crowd: *stares at each other in disbelief*

That has got to be the LAMEST song introduction ever.

[Sasukeforceteam]

-ANY BODY PLAY GUITAR HERO HERE?

_I WANNA HEAR YOU ALL MOTHER FUCKERS THERE D:

[Dragonforcerulez1]

@Sasukeforceteam Herman trying to be bad ass, now when zp isn't there xD

[aquil37]

haha, nice opening joke there. it's kinda the truth at this point though.

[RandomlineProduction]

@Skullki Glam metal,rock stuff like that.

[Rocktheworld1221]

Wow this is the worst quality i ever saw

[Chanzilla86]

3:40 "yaaaay"

[TheRAVENofHEART]

@Chanzilla86 LOOOL!!!

[1bboysmurf]

hmmm herman definately cant get everyone pumped up live like zp could

[furiouscake]

wow, get rid of the vocalist and bassist and they're suddenly pretty decent!

[lfcbenitez123]

@furiouscake No. Its just this recording is 100 times better than all the other shitty quality recordings of dragonforce on youtube. People seem to think that footage taken off a mobile phone is true to what they sound like live.

[angels2online]

When there is noZP around, they have to make more effort to sound good.

[Kevin100km]

Aguem pode traduzir o que o Herman fala, por favor!

Or just write what he says in English please.

[TheHippi3]

somethings missing..... i know what it is the bassist is missing

[ImRevilo]

@TheHippi3  yea the singer

[ImRevilo]

@ImRevilo yea i am actually iv known them for 11 years dont give me shit

[sergioreijnders]

i think Sam Totman is getting bored. maybe their music is to slow.

[Preludiumi]

Strange..Now I like this song actually more without the singer

[superslyd]

They did well to start this new band

goodbye StudioForce

WELCOME DRAGONFORCE!!!!! _!..!

[Beecels]

ironic then they stopped sucking live when ZP left LOLLL bad singer is bad

[ImRevilo]

@Beecels fuck you why dont you audition since you think your so good

[Beecels]

@ImRevilo

u mad fanboy? 

[ImRevilo]

@Beecels yea i am actually iv known them for 11 years and im related to dave have you got a problem with that

[Beecels]

@ImRevilo

nope I don't care, they are better now, but they were shit with ZP. Studioforce... Deal with it

[Elthenar]

@Beecels Studioforce, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA

[Sergio84079]

ZP did the craziest thing he left the band DragonForce, because Sam not to smile any more, maybe the band is over, but will always be DragonForce. \,, /

[xxxmarvadao]

fdp é ele é bom

[neemandhaydn]

you know what this means right? they can actually play the solo's that they used to fail at, live. meaning that when they make a new studio album, the solo's should hopefully be more complex :)

[XxMadMax593]

Sam looks depressed, i dont blame him.

[IDontOwnTheseVideos]

@XxMadMax593 I never thought about that. He does look sad.

[SoapyTaco]

Holy fuck, they actually sound good live now.

[Dustehue928]

why isnt the bassist and keyboardist there? ANd what have happened to Sam?

[metallica606]

Wow they can actually play it now

[GohanLSSJ2]

@metallica606 Sadly, they don't have ZP's voice anymore, such a shame...

[jeffandscottvideos1]

where the FUCK is the singer!

[crossvariation]

@jeffandscottvideos1 he quit the band :(

[bergAgreb]

damn sam totman is a faggot

[lfcbenitez123]

@bergAgreb Nah its only gay if the balls touch.

[JuulYT]

@Daputti True!

[maniacgamer9]

Sam thinking to himself... Herman you look like a cunt doing all that... lol

[maniacgamer9]

yeah... you can tell sam is really bothered by ZP leaving... But I also think Herman told him not to drink any before this show. Sam even said he has much more fun when he has been drinking during a show than when he's sober, so that's probably part of it.

[DOUGLAS300000000]

It was a music convention not a live show so of course sam isnt going to be going crazy, hes trying to show how well h can play his isntrument, and i seriously doubt that sam is sad because zp left, zp outcast hmself form the group, wouldnt do interviews, is never seen hanging out with the guys, im sre they hae been awaiting his leaving for years, and not to mention hi oice wasstarting to crack because of his smoking and constant drinking so im not to worried about the the future of dragonforce

[bunnyboybxb]

my favorite band and it hurts so bad seeing them with sam no emotions and herman with that fake smile

[Harlequin72]

@Skullki

No you idiot, solos are part of a song, if don't listen to other bands like this who have long solos, then you don't deserve typing on the comment box. I mean, there are tons of songs with long solos, and ZP shouldve known that beforehand. It may be a shift in interest or something like that. Singing is still the most important part of a song, it is rarely drowned over by the solos(if the song isn't an instrumental that is), and if it is, it is usually intended.

[Harlequin72]

To have no emotion even during a solo, man that's real sad. That rarely happens to me.

[lfcbenitez123]

@Harlequin72 good story , bro. 

[Harlequin72]

@lfcbenitez123

No old memes plz

[lfcbenitez123]

@Harlequin72 Lol.

[IINgGII]

Perfect !!

[POLDUSTLEAD]

Thats really sad

[gh5rock]

Do Any One Play Guitar Hero motherfucker's?????

[magicthe7]

my god... it has 13337 views....

[jeffandscottvideos1]

@magicthe7 yes but the actual name to reffer to that by is...

ITS OVER 9000!!!!!!

[Chaosespen]

it is not the same Without ZL .... </3

[francesco149]

Crappy audience, but props to Herman! Sam looks pretty depressed tho D:

[GuitarHeroStrummer]

gosto e baril

[GuitarHeroStrummer]

i haven 1 fan

[GuitarHeroStrummer]

i haven 1 fan

[kratos123465]

and ZP?

where is he?

[ffp08]

Those pedal triggers sound bad.

[xCeaseAllFeelingx]

Whats up with Sam? He looks pissed but hes playing Perfectly!

[follian]

If Eli Prinsen was on vocals, this would kick ASS!!!

[ludseb]

wtf? at the end ..........nooooooooooooooooooo i want this guitar 7:40 mierda chino cabron porque lanzo asi esa guitarra

[acgvpwnz]

where is the singer?

[DragonForceRules100]

@acgvpwnz zp leave the band

[stargazer93]

Why didnt they use a ZP voice overdub and play standard tuning like they do in clinics?

[lfcbenitez123]

@stargazer93 Apparently its sams preferance to play droptuned .. i heard it somewhere , i believe it was on the DF forum. But i could be wrong :)

[justinmcc87]

@TheSylvari Yeah actually, both guitarists are playing the songs they wrote live in this video. When they record, they have no need to speed it up after recording it. Trust me, you're not even close to the music industry...dumbass.

[RockFan9927]

@TheSylvari you are NOT in the music industry, if a song was played slow then sped up, the recording would be all screwed up, it messes up the whole song and the solos will sound wierd, nothing would work the way they want it to, clearly if you were in the music industry you would know that

[RockFan9927]

dragonforce's popularity went up so much after ultra beatdown and then ZP left..........................­......???what kind of timing is that?

[DragonWarriorX99]

they kinda sound better without ZP but i still kinda miss him :( lol but still AWESOME XD

[noynoyz123]

Wheres ZP?

[SnipinG1337]

@noynoyz123 Left the band

[IbanezJoey]

@TheSylvari Moron. You're not in the music industry at all. Clearly here both guitarists can play the entire song accurately now they've cut out the alcohol before playing on stage. Go get a clue.

[lfcbenitez123]

@TheSylvari Seriously ? If your in the " music industry " you should be aware of how the album would lose ALOT of quality if it was played slow then " Speeded up ". You should also be aware of the fact that the song through the fire and flames is 200 bpm on the album .. and whats that ? Thats right .. the song is 200 bpm in this performance aswell.

[lfcbenitez123]

@TheSylvari no sir. they dont.

[linc69]

sam's bored

[skid544]

See Proof they can play live, Their sound crew actually figured out what to do

[RockFan9927]

the problem with graspop 2006 was that TTFAF just came out and people from GH3 were really excited to see them play TTFAF perfectly, but with all the technical difficulties, and those people didnt see their live in japan concerts, they THAUGHT that df was fake and sucked live, but see any other concert besides their graspop 2006 concerts and you can clearly see they are NOT fake and do NOT suck live

[555kl789]

They ARE getting better. Just compare this video to the grasspop one. Still room for shitloads of improvement, the tapping parts being annoyingly sloppy.

[RossGeller79]

@555kl789

why do all the people compare the live things of dragonforce to the one from grasspop?

herman himself said, they totally sucked, but because the staff wasn'T able to tune the guitars right. they even coulnd't her themselves... man...

[555kl789]

@RossGeller79 They played it sloppy like fuck at grasspop, guitars in tune wouldn't have saved them.

[RossGeller79]

@RossGeller79

maybe they miss some notes, but i want you to perform something like this clean on stage oO?

thy got a high grade of niveau, so thye're trying to pull themselves rto the limit....

[0Tomes]

I love these guys as a studio band. They're notoriously sloppy live, though.

[metallicarulez555]

What tha fuck !!??? Nobody is singing there !!!!

[RockFan9927]

@metallicarulez555 thats because ZP left the band months ago

[XIntoxicationalX]

@metallicarulez555 learn what an instrumental is dumbass

[metallicarulez555]

@XIntoxicationalX I was talking about the crowd...

[XIntoxicationalX]

@metallicarulez555 holy shit dude this is old man, im not even into to these guys anymore lol

[metallicarulez555]

@XIntoxicationalX jajaja yeah it's like 10 months ago.

[SegamenXp]

I was a little lost without vocals lol XD

[lfcbenitez123]

@oscgon94 You call another band lame and you mention slipknot in the same sentence .. wow.

[oscgon94]

@lfcbenitez123 dick shut the fuck just because u noe its true

[lfcbenitez123]

@oscgon94 Yeah i know that slipknot is the lamest band ever XD And one of the most over-rated bands ever. Dragonforce are so much more talented. Plus i was wondering ... why do you look for a band on youtube if you think they are lame ?

[oscgon94]

fukin lame ass band SLIPKNOT WILL FUCK THEM UP!!

[gh3god129]

awwww sam looks so confused and lost without ZP singing :(

[joggi619]

even thoug sam looks pretty miserable throughout the whole song, he cant resist i tiny hadbanging at the amazing part at 5:49

[GuitarHeroStrummer]

@joggi619 he didn't headbang

[travis5352]

AND the reason they are playing with just instruments is because this it an instrument expo. they did this to show their sig instruments.

[travis5352]

SAM LOOKS DEAD =[

[chentemccloud]

they suck without ZP!!!!

[Trezveil]

@chentemccloud even though ZP always sang alot of sour notes in the ilves XD

[chentemccloud]

@Trezveil there's no harmony its what ties the whole song together and if you think that he dosen't sing too well then stop looking at them in you tube for all we know you might be the worst anything on this planet, i'm not saying you are just WE don't know 

[TheVoorhees13]

oh come on sam don't be sad :( I miss that energy before :S

herman congratz for that enthusiasm I love you :D

[ExtremeMorshing]

haha i was there

[Daputti]

I haven't been a fan of Dragonforce in a couple of years, but this just makes me sad. I used to troll on a few videos how Dragonforce suck live. Well now they don't, and infact they sound great. But looking at Sam play with his band without their enthusiastic frontman just makes me sad and feel pity for him. Just when they started to rock, his band just got the hardest kick in the balls.

He doesn't jump around like mad anymore, he doesn't even smile.

ZP didn't only hurt the band, but mostly Sam.

[GuitarHeroStrummer]

@Daputti yeah you're right, sam and zp were kinda best friends, they even did a side project a couple years ago called shadow warriors, and that shows that they had a really good friendship

[Daputti]

@GuitarHeroStrummer

Props for Herman though - he's still doing his best, and trying to keep the band in shape. He has formed up to be an amazing musician over the years.

[Trezveil]

@Daputti one thing i would like to know is why they dont release of any kind of dvd =| why do i have to always hear crap quality live performances = \

[aragoth12]

@Trezveil still sounds great, but i know what you mean 

[kryptx101]

@Trezveil

A dvd is coming its called Twilight Dementia on Sept 13.

[pugnentgary]

@Daputti Herman kicks ass!

[D4K44R1]

@Daputti

*Ahem* the correct term is, 'God'

[ilviish]

@Daputti

I agree with you!

:(

It's so sad...

[RockFan9927]

@Daputti check out their live in japan 2005 videos, these performences are amazing, but you're right sam looks depressed, they need ZP back

[ArticulateSkater]

@Daputti I dont understand why he left.. "Musical differences" isn't a good enough excuse anymore. Maybe they had a fight and kicked him out or something? Idk.. I wish they'd spill the beans already..

[D4K44R1]

@Daputti

Mabye Sam's just like that when he's sober?

[SoulCalibrator]

@Daputti Yeah, man. I was watching another video where one of his strings broke, and MAN, I felt pretty bad for him, 'cause he looked legitimately distraught. Herman really keeps the band goin'. Good guy. Good people that had fun with what they were doin'.

[fordfan197]

@Daputti yea i was watching 1 of there live concerts of through the fire and flames and they were pretty much perfect, flawless they were just starting to get awesome live wen zp quit

[Magicquel567]

look how sam walks away, makes me sad

[muldmike]

sam looks so sad, probs cuz ZP left but hopefully he'll cheer up

[Barnix005]

Just when Dragonforce learned to play live, they started falling apart. ZP left, and I bet it won't take long to see Sam quit too. Just look at his face expression. He doesn't seem to enjoy this at all, and neither he wants to be there in my opinion. I hope everything will be fine and they'll find a singer with a voice similiar to ZP's.

[llanafreak44]

50 dollars says that Sam quits. Literally the face of boredom and "I don't want to be here".

[Alorsous]

Is this a different band? No offense, but Dragonforce ussually doesn't sound this...how shall I say it, Dynamic? could even hear the bass too, maybe they really should just become an instrumental band, I actually really enjoy this, it's kind of refreshing, because for 1. It allows us to actual hear the instruments, and 2 proves that yes, they can to a good degree play live

[chiminari]

y ZP? si se salio de la banda?

[MrGod99]

poes eso son malas noticias

ya k dragonforce es mi banda favorita pero poes ni modo espero

y el nuevo vocalista no modifike el estilo de dragonforce

como en su tiempo anette olzon hizo con nightwish

u_u mis bandas favoritas se desintegran

primero el vocalista de angra luego la vocalista de nightwish despues el guitarrista de grave digger y por ultimo la despedida de ZP thear (k por cierto es hombre XD)

poes solo el futuro decidira

[MrGod99]

sera k tocan mjor sin vocalista????

[ARodYankFan]

@MrGod99 No, es que ZP (la que cantaba) se fue de la banda supuestamente porque no tenian la mismas ideas de musica con la banda sobre el CD nuevo que esta supuesto a venir el ano que viene. Yo quiero saber si van a sonar lo mismo que ahora o si van a cambiar su forma de tocar...

[kelindo07]

Well i like so much the last singer but what can i do for this?? nothing i just pray yo better singer ..well i dont think that many people can play like ZP THEART

[Kistarcsa]

Dragonforce sucks and this sounds like garbage.

You know why?

Because I'm joking.

[RossGeller79]

@Kistarcsa

i wanted to say already :O

you should burn in purgatory if you say they're garbag o.o"

[ionbc]

I see Herman's still using the Hot Hand. Looks really cool ;)

[RipAndCompromise]

sams probbably tring to figure out where valdim is!

[DarkLaunch357]

lmao was Sam sad? he looks kinda srs. for me he's like "LOLWUT people, i'm a dragonforce member too you know" rofl \m/ they freaking RULE

[RandomMerde]

I can hear keyboard, where's Vadim? :o

[AJSOLO666]

@RandomMerde It's a backing track.lol

[FleckProduction]

Fred and Vadim are there i could here the bass and the piano.

[ionbc]

I'm singing along to it...coz ZP isn't there

[MrScholle1989]

lol am ende sagt einer "man war das kacke" :-D

[CelestialTina]

@MrScholle1989 what does "kacke" mean?

[MrScholle1989]

@CelestialTina kacke = shit

[CelestialTina]

@MrScholle1989 oh.... that's not good! XD

[RossGeller79]

@MrScholle1989

der soll in der hölle schmoren <.<

[RockRoom195]

@MrScholle1989 scheiss penner :D

[Malik82691]

Umm, wheres Fred and Vadim? 0_0 please don't tell me they left the band too!

[bassface17]

@Malik82691 This wasn't a real show, The reason only Dave, Herman and Sam are there is because they are all endorsed by the same company.

[Malik82691]

@bassface17, oh yeah that's right....i forgot they're making appearances for their sponsors right now lol

[RipAndCompromise]

@bassface17

no they are there because they have started a tour in germany and the lead singer (ZP) has left

[bassface17]

@RipAndCompromise what are they touring to support.

[dragonforce2510]

@bassface17 They are there because it is a music conference in Germany that is held every year. its to support their signature gear.

[bassface17]

@dragonforce2510 These 3 members are endorsed by Tama and Ibanez which are part of the same company. Fred who is endorsed by Esp and vadim who doesn't have signature gear are not there.

[dragonforce2510]

@bassface17 Becuase its the Ibanez/Tama arena stage.

[bassface17]

@dragonforce2510 My original point exactly. I guess we are agreeing.

[dragonforce2510]

@RipAndCompromise. They are there because it is a music conference in Germany that is held every year. It says so in the title of the video. Check facts before commenting.