I always got lost when it came to playing the modes over a chord. It always sounded wierd, but when Vinnie starts jamming, it brings it all together. I wish I could play like that.
i agree, this is the first video that i have actually been able to understand modes. my downfall is I can only read tablature so I have no idea what notes he was playing in each of the scales for each mode. Any ideas, tips, etc from anyone would be greatly appreciated.
@louevil555 the thing i use to do when i dont have tabs....i just look at the fretboard number and try immitating the sound....in that way i't really used to help me out.... ;)
The question is: how do we use modes? I mean, for example, if want to play a song in the D Dorian mode, Will the root be D using the chords of C major?
@Pablozabala You would use c major for ionian,d minor for dorian,e minor for phrygian,f major for lydian,g major or major 7th for mixolydian,a minor for aeolian,b 7b5 of b half diminished for lociran,and back and again to c major to complete the octave,but thats in the key of c major only
its easy too see why learning the modes confuses people,players should know that you only have to learn 1 scale (the major scale) to be able to jam in all the modes,but you still have to work very hard to be able to shred like him .
Modes are great,but imo they really are best taught/learnt on a keyboard/piano though.Rather than shredding them and making them sound confusing,and unmelodic.
PLEASE HELP ME! i understand almost everything, but if i want to stay in B Dorian mode and whant to change chords but staying in b dorian, how do i know what chords i can play??
@carlrhoads The dorian mode is the 2nd mode of the A (harmonised) major scale, so you can use any of the chords of the A harmonised major scale.. B minor, C# minor, D major, E major, F# minor, G# minor flat 5, A major
to play B mixolydian, B is 5th note in key of E so I play an E maj scale starting at B which is B C# D# G F# G# A B
TTSTTST
he really skips over his logic as to using the calculation of, let me see Aeolian would be one step above, where I can play a C# but it is a minor scale so play a C#minor and that is found in the relative major to Aeolian C#minor which is E major which happens to be the scale we wanted in the first place. Gimeabreak
@jameswp1946 ooops! good eye thanks for pointing that out - wish there was an edit feature for posted remarks (maybe...I'm sure there's a case against that too)
Right off the bat, his explanations are better than I've ever seen or heard coming from any guitar teacher. It's not that you either totally understand it or can do it. It's that his explanations are so much to the point and better than anything I've ever heard. I had no idea. Wish I could have seen this a long time ago.
WELL...Actually he played diminished on that B Locrian...Diminished and half-diminished are two VERY different things...but otherwise, pretty good lesson..!
Seems like a really decent guy. A lot of these videos demonstrate a guitarist shredding and don't explain much. Vinny really seems to be able to explain musical concepts better than others.
when hes playin in the locrian mode an he says hes not comfortable with it why doesnt he just relate it to the minor scale(which he seems extremely comfortable with) an shred away ?
I learned modes from the three note per string patterns ala Paul Gilbert. Each form starts with a different scale degree and gives you really easy access to the root notes of any modal scale you need.
JAJA!!! I thought like that for about 10 years playing the guitar!!! And when I understood what they were about, I couldn´t find the use of them!
But one day, my head just made a click and now I don't know how I could play without knowing them! So I guess It's just a matter of time, but don't give up on them. Just ask everyone you can, and read a lot about modes, you'll see how interesting they are!
I appreciate this explanation, Vinnie makes it very clear how these scales work.
Dude! Shredding the "aeolian!" (4:20-4:30, holy shit!) Man, I want to learn to play like that! I love that shit! (guilty pleasure) I know it's out of fashion these days, but I'm bringing it back, baby!
You will find that picking every note quickly like that will be more natural but the phrasing that he does with pulloffs and legato will be the true challenge and what you really need to work on. You have to have the other stuff to make the "shred" more effective. Vinnie Definately has the other stuff. He is a master of so many techniques. This video shows class. He could just go nuts all over (see Paul Gilbert videos) but really cares about you learning something out of this.
yeah. a little theory helps in understanding modes - basic modes isn't rocket science but it's not the sort of thing you'd start off with. get your pentatonic shapes and major/minor/diminished chords figured and then get to work on the major scale, really taking the time to write things down if you get confused.
learn the scale all over the neck - like vinnie says the modes are basically the major scale but starting on different notes so if you "get" the major scale the modes will come.
I would try to see the modes as a scale itselfs cause you will not get them really down if you see them as a major scale on a different note. It is just a help for beginners but if you want to learn the modes proberly you should learn them as a own shape. My 2 cents to that
yeah, you're right. just a lot of people find it mystifying so the major scale explanation breaks the initial hurdle. i definitely "got it" when i heard it put like that, and if you listen to a lot of guitar music you're definitely going to want to approach each mode differently.
You dudes commenting on here about this modd lesson need to understand there aint no easy way to guitar playing everything you will be taught will be come in some form from the major scale! so make up your mind today,if ya wanna be a player or do you simply want to learn smoke on the water....start by learning the major scale it could be taught to a 4 year old girl....learn it.! the magic lesson doesnt exist.!
You guys thinking there is some magical system or secret to guitar playing are living on a mirage......Learn your major scale, how to spell them...w-w-h-w-w-w-h..and you can follow this mode business..its not magic ! its work your ass off and be committed.
Thats where the biggest problem of all comes and seperates the possible guitars players from the pretenders that will only end up learning smoke on the water,and hawking the guitar....wanna be a player LEARN THE MAJOR SCALE..NOW!
it certainly needs the viewer to be concetrated and to hold a guitar but in the end you understand everything. this video must be great. i have been playing guitar for 3 years and i understood it.
its really funny... i learned to play basic major/minor scales on the guitar 7 years ago watching a vinnie moore video.. and 7 years later, same guy made more sense about the modes than any1 else has ever before..
Knowing basically nothing about theory isnt particularly a good start for understanding the modes =\ try to study first the intervals of major scale in different keys, see witch are the relative minor scales of the same key; then a bit of chords progressions, how to create a progression from a key (major and minor), how to built different chords from a same key (Cmaj7, C7, Cdim, Cadd9, Csus4, C, Cm, Csus2, etc...) just take some holidays to do it LoL, then youll get with no prob.
Awsome lesson, Only bit I got a little lost in was why he related mixolydian to aeolian and used C#m instead of using E major. After understanding the lessons before that one I would have expected and thought he'd have used the E major started with the B note and away he went. But he pulled this aeolian relation thing out and ends up using C#m damn lol that really lost me. Great lesson so far though Vinn is the man. Cheers, IC.
You gotta love Vinnie. He seems like he would be such a great, patient teacher. He also seems like he'd be so down to earth and approachable, not having the typical arms-crossed, burning laser stare that so many of these "shredder-types" seem to possess.
do i change the mode im using for each chord? So like i use F Ionian over the first 2 chords then at the Gmin can i use the Dorian mode. which has the same notes as a Eb maj scale???
how the hell can B Locrian be the "wierd" one when its the same as A Aeolian??...(I now that Locrian is Dim)
The same goes for the other modes, how can for example B Ionian have a happy sound when B ionian is the same as G# Aeolian wich is a minor mode and have sad sound???????? plz someone explane!!!!
B ionian and G# Aeolian are the same collection of notes. If you played them as a scale they sound exactly the same, the only difference being that you would start your scale on either B or G#. But it's the same scale. What makes it happy or sad or whatever is in Ionian you are playing the scale over a B major chord. In Aeolian, you are playing the scale over a G# minor chord. The way the same scale interacts with different chords is what people attribute different feelings to.
Modes are for theory analysis not for soloing! Don't wast you time trying to solo with them!!!! What if you have an altered chord (G+-7 Or F9b5)? Or chords not in the same key? Modes do not allow you to play to most of the songs you here every day. That why we have the pentatonic (back to basics) scale!!!! You need to play according to the chord tones based around the pentatonic scale like a real pro does. You need to know every note on the fret board.
Obviously, there are some chords that modes don't cover. But a lot of times you can solo using modes, especially if it's a rock song and there's not a lot of "weird" chords (not that they're weird, I don't know what else to call them). If you're playing pentatonic, why not play dorian? It's the same thing, just with more notes and it sounds better.
Man, he certainly opened so many doors for, all this time I was ignoring modes and this lesson really opened my eyes to it and made me understand it. Can;t wait ti start practising them. Thanks a lot for posting these man, Vinie Moore rocks!!!!!!!!
bahh.. i just got a lot of suger in my mouth.. you know when you drink tea and put sugar in.. and not all the sugar mix with the water.. and then the ast bit of tea just tastes like candy or something... not what you would expect..
I've had a million different guys tell me about modes a million different times - now I get it! Dude, thanks for posting this, you have no idea how long I've been searching for a explanation of the modes!
Yes! I noticed that little lick from Norwegian Wood and I knew it was a Beatles song but I couldn't remember which, so I had this paused while I was rummaging around for like 5 minutes and I finally remembered it was that song, so I resumed this and he just said it -_-
god damn vinnie moore is so good! i didnt hear any wrong notes hahaha
brandonpaul89 4 months ago
I always got lost when it came to playing the modes over a chord. It always sounded wierd, but when Vinnie starts jamming, it brings it all together. I wish I could play like that.
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lol. i just realized that the tabs are also put on the screen but i cant fuckin read them!
louevil555 7 months ago in playlist guitar lessons
i agree, this is the first video that i have actually been able to understand modes. my downfall is I can only read tablature so I have no idea what notes he was playing in each of the scales for each mode. Any ideas, tips, etc from anyone would be greatly appreciated.
louevil555 7 months ago
@louevil555 the thing i use to do when i dont have tabs....i just look at the fretboard number and try immitating the sound....in that way i't really used to help me out.... ;)
Winkle1993 1 month ago
lydian is Vai personified.
evolutionmb 7 months ago
was that a little bit of norgewian wood by the beatles @2:33?
andrewcy17 8 months ago
@andrewcy17 yea it was. i noticed that too
added23 2 months ago
I'd say he's pretty familiar with aeolian. Wadia think? Great lesson!
MrPentatonics4life 10 months ago
es una reata ese weyy!! el mejor
robertocastilloo1 11 months ago
what model of ibanez is that?
sk8ordiet15 1 year ago
@sk8ordiet15 That was his signature model back then--the VM1.
MisledDan 11 months ago
What scale is he playing in these modes?
Fredrick997 1 year ago
CAN ANYONE TAB THAT AEOLION MODE ?! THAT SHIT IS AWESOME! favorite mode defffff
Terrible1 1 year ago
@Terrible1
Aeolian = relative minor ... so, when you´re in G-Major, just play the E-Minor Scale - which IS the G-Major scale starting from an E-note.
MasslRockss 11 months ago
4:19...no Vinnie wait ...WAIT...NOOOO ....Slow down!...My Head is gonna BLOW!!!
44SuperShredder 1 year ago
The question is: how do we use modes? I mean, for example, if want to play a song in the D Dorian mode, Will the root be D using the chords of C major?
Pablozabala 1 year ago
@Pablozabala You would use c major for ionian,d minor for dorian,e minor for phrygian,f major for lydian,g major or major 7th for mixolydian,a minor for aeolian,b 7b5 of b half diminished for lociran,and back and again to c major to complete the octave,but thats in the key of c major only
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punkmusicmetal 1 year ago
B is the 4th of F# not F....?
Peterj7777 1 year ago
its easy too see why learning the modes confuses people,players should know that you only have to learn 1 scale (the major scale) to be able to jam in all the modes,but you still have to work very hard to be able to shred like him .
TheGlenn9 1 year ago
Great lesson!
Aristotelezz 1 year ago
I wish I'd seen this back in 1989. My guitar teacher could never get this through my thick skull. I wish Vinnie was my guitar teacher ;-(
Bridgebain 1 year ago
Modes are great,but imo they really are best taught/learnt on a keyboard/piano though.Rather than shredding them and making them sound confusing,and unmelodic.
0ua8 1 year ago
great lesson! best one i've seen so far
DayTripperID 1 year ago
Finally, after 40+ years of playing, I get it. Great lesson!
bodywiseproducts 1 year ago 5
That beatles Lick in Mixolydian was sooooooooo coool
vinny1577 1 year ago 3
i have a feeling he likes minor
pyrodeath3x3 1 year ago
flying through the air like super man!
corizojoe 1 year ago
thanks sir it helps A lot
Penalty22 1 year ago
yeah practice ill with tapes...so i can be him..
jAybaNger 1 year ago
Where can I buy this video?
drtcan 1 year ago
I'm sitting here diligently playing along and then at 4:19 I'm like...... you lost me.
RedBarchetta47 1 year ago 3
locrian is used a lot in death metal stuff, love locrian, my favorite mode...? :P
reaper2ooX 1 year ago
@reaper2ooX same here, if Locrian is played properly it can sound beautiful.
guitarshredking 1 year ago
very interesting, and easy to understand. well explained Vinnie, thanks.
briang1172 1 year ago
Great lesson
hesekie1 1 year ago
awesome improvisations
afesge1se3 2 years ago
PLEASE HELP ME! i understand almost everything, but if i want to stay in B Dorian mode and whant to change chords but staying in b dorian, how do i know what chords i can play??
carlrhoads 2 years ago
@carlrhoads acording to Dan Haerle's book "Scales for Jazz Improvisation"
page 4 The Dorian SCALE
to paraphrase and under the educational provision in our wonderful copyright laws,
you typically use minor chords which operate as a I, II or IV chord in minor or major keys. So minor chords work although your milage may vary.
SemiTall 2 years ago
You can play all the chords that exist with 3 sharps. A Major, b min, c# min, D Maj, E Maj, F# min, G#dim.
The i-V progression in B Dorian would be b minor to F# min.
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@carlrhoads The dorian mode is the 2nd mode of the A (harmonised) major scale, so you can use any of the chords of the A harmonised major scale.. B minor, C# minor, D major, E major, F# minor, G# minor flat 5, A major
PowderFunky 2 years ago
let me see if I get this right this time:
to play B mixolydian, B is 5th note in key of E so I play an E maj scale starting at B which is B C# D# G F# G# A B
TTSTTST
he really skips over his logic as to using the calculation of, let me see Aeolian would be one step above, where I can play a C# but it is a minor scale so play a C#minor and that is found in the relative major to Aeolian C#minor which is E major which happens to be the scale we wanted in the first place. Gimeabreak
SemiTall 2 years ago
I like the calculations too and I agree with your formula but you wrote G instead of E (after D#)
I guess you cannot do formulae when you are in a middle of a solo
jameswp1946 2 years ago
@jameswp1946 ooops! good eye thanks for pointing that out - wish there was an edit feature for posted remarks (maybe...I'm sure there's a case against that too)
SemiTall 2 years ago
@jameswp1946
to play B mixolydian, B is 5th note in key of E so I play an E maj scale starting at B which is B C# D# E F# G# A B
TTSTTST
SemiTall 2 years ago
@SemiTall Hi SemiTall. If I play the C major scale starting at B (7th in C), would I be playing B locrian?
Dragos1591 1 year ago
@Dragos1591 no
SemiTall 1 year ago
@Dragos1591 I wrote out a long answer and it has not showed up. Try again
the B locrian has same notes as the C major scale
C Locrian would be C Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb
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SemiTall 2 years ago
haha this guy is Johnny Depp in a crazy wig
6EELZE6U6666 2 years ago
funniest pause ever at 6:31
its like the mode had disturbed him in the past and he all of a sudden recalled supressed memories ;)
Blsoe 2 years ago
This guy is funny as hell. Great lesson.
mrfenderdude 2 years ago
Right off the bat, his explanations are better than I've ever seen or heard coming from any guitar teacher. It's not that you either totally understand it or can do it. It's that his explanations are so much to the point and better than anything I've ever heard. I had no idea. Wish I could have seen this a long time ago.
stratoleft 2 years ago
WELL...Actually he played diminished on that B Locrian...Diminished and half-diminished are two VERY different things...but otherwise, pretty good lesson..!
MaxxxZotti 2 years ago 2
Well, he actually admitted to that, lol... He's right tho, scalar approach is pretty tricky on the Locrian mode, arpeggios work better....
MaxxxZotti 2 years ago 2
the first guy to actually teach me something about modes god bless this guy
Sirmalice192837 2 years ago 56
this man makes sense
this is the best lesson on modes !
1985blues 2 years ago
Seems like a really decent guy. A lot of these videos demonstrate a guitarist shredding and don't explain much. Vinny really seems to be able to explain musical concepts better than others.
jamo387 2 years ago 3
Yea. Paul Gilbert and John Pettrucci are pretty good too.
wildchild6660 2 years ago 3
this is the fucking great lesson
luwiboyet 2 years ago 3
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this mode shit is easy. playing fast wicked licks is what's hard
Denapz 2 years ago
i think i finally got it lol
thanks man
sweetgyy 2 years ago 2
ha..............melody from norwegian wood
ShredForth 2 years ago
Put that on tape
hyperdriveguitar 2 years ago
Please ignore the couple wrong notes I played lol,Vin ur funny.
paraglidermx 2 years ago 2
this is very useful.
pd: 2:30 The beatles
oo0felipe0oo 2 years ago 3
Vinnie's explanations of these concepts are clear and very helpful. Thanks!!
Philokalia 2 years ago
One of the most important lessons I've ever had... thanks Vinnie!!! great upload Daveyo5150.
ombustudios 2 years ago
when hes playin in the locrian mode an he says hes not comfortable with it why doesnt he just relate it to the minor scale(which he seems extremely comfortable with) an shred away ?
deadmanshand2008 2 years ago
wonderful lesson, thanks for uploading this
amtreble 2 years ago 20
Very well exlpained!! Great lesson, it should be like this for every teacher on earth! Vinnie is a bunch of inspiration.
MrDestructive100 2 years ago 4
I learned modes from the three note per string patterns ala Paul Gilbert. Each form starts with a different scale degree and gives you really easy access to the root notes of any modal scale you need.
PM me if you want them tabbed.
ThePathofHavoc 2 years ago
i need them buddy could u send me them??
ashrafelnemr 2 years ago
This video helped me immensely. I definitely recommend everyone who needs help learning with modes to check out parts 1 through 3. Thanks!
ibejamesbrown 2 years ago 2
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I don't know what the FUCK he's babbling on about but he's a fucking great guitarist. I know that much.
wungabunga 2 years ago
I guess it would help to know the Major scale in all keys in every postion before attempting to figure out modes
shredftw 2 years ago
no. Learn the key signatures and then the modes.
ronaldpettersen 2 years ago
The Dorian Mode smells like shit.
PrincessShittyBottom 2 years ago
I Shit this song out while Shitting in the Mixolydian Mode:
A/Emin,D, C Major, Csus7, and A:
PrincessShittyBottom 2 years ago
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confused me more than ever aye i hate the modes
04milij 2 years ago
JAJA!!! I thought like that for about 10 years playing the guitar!!! And when I understood what they were about, I couldn´t find the use of them!
But one day, my head just made a click and now I don't know how I could play without knowing them! So I guess It's just a matter of time, but don't give up on them. Just ask everyone you can, and read a lot about modes, you'll see how interesting they are!
diegof117 2 years ago
Here, sure thing, here is it is, friend:
E. B?,C#/Db, Emin, and A:
Good huh?
I composed that one while on the shitter. It is useful when studying Modes to shit them out first.
PrincessShittyBottom 2 years ago
cuz you're a pussy.
ronaldpettersen 2 years ago
Thanx Davey, very inspiring!
EuphorbusBTB 2 years ago 3
very good lesson...helped me a lot w/ modes
baffiowoh 2 years ago 2
Great lesson!!
This helped me so much to separate those weird modes!
TheMylesky 2 years ago
thanks alot man this has helped alot on my improv
encguitarist 2 years ago
great vid thx..
michaelsiao 2 years ago
great vid.. thx..
michaelsiao 2 years ago
where can i get the tab booklet on this video !?
beautiful just beautifulll aeolion sample !
Terrible1 2 years ago
I appreciate this explanation, Vinnie makes it very clear how these scales work.
Dude! Shredding the "aeolian!" (4:20-4:30, holy shit!) Man, I want to learn to play like that! I love that shit! (guilty pleasure) I know it's out of fashion these days, but I'm bringing it back, baby!
bourgeois3256 2 years ago 3
You will find that picking every note quickly like that will be more natural but the phrasing that he does with pulloffs and legato will be the true challenge and what you really need to work on. You have to have the other stuff to make the "shred" more effective. Vinnie Definately has the other stuff. He is a master of so many techniques. This video shows class. He could just go nuts all over (see Paul Gilbert videos) but really cares about you learning something out of this.
Raenydyne 2 years ago
yeah. a little theory helps in understanding modes - basic modes isn't rocket science but it's not the sort of thing you'd start off with. get your pentatonic shapes and major/minor/diminished chords figured and then get to work on the major scale, really taking the time to write things down if you get confused.
learn the scale all over the neck - like vinnie says the modes are basically the major scale but starting on different notes so if you "get" the major scale the modes will come.
deliriouscouture 2 years ago
I would try to see the modes as a scale itselfs cause you will not get them really down if you see them as a major scale on a different note. It is just a help for beginners but if you want to learn the modes proberly you should learn them as a own shape. My 2 cents to that
Julien1345 2 years ago
yeah, you're right. just a lot of people find it mystifying so the major scale explanation breaks the initial hurdle. i definitely "got it" when i heard it put like that, and if you listen to a lot of guitar music you're definitely going to want to approach each mode differently.
deliriouscouture 2 years ago
You dudes commenting on here about this modd lesson need to understand there aint no easy way to guitar playing everything you will be taught will be come in some form from the major scale! so make up your mind today,if ya wanna be a player or do you simply want to learn smoke on the water....start by learning the major scale it could be taught to a 4 year old girl....learn it.! the magic lesson doesnt exist.!
keeper795 2 years ago 2
You guys thinking there is some magical system or secret to guitar playing are living on a mirage......Learn your major scale, how to spell them...w-w-h-w-w-w-h..and you can follow this mode business..its not magic ! its work your ass off and be committed.
Thats where the biggest problem of all comes and seperates the possible guitars players from the pretenders that will only end up learning smoke on the water,and hawking the guitar....wanna be a player LEARN THE MAJOR SCALE..NOW!
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keeper795 2 years ago 2
it certainly needs the viewer to be concetrated and to hold a guitar but in the end you understand everything. this video must be great. i have been playing guitar for 3 years and i understood it.
menegakis 2 years ago
its really funny... i learned to play basic major/minor scales on the guitar 7 years ago watching a vinnie moore video.. and 7 years later, same guy made more sense about the modes than any1 else has ever before..
nwijesinghe 2 years ago
nevermind i get it now.
Basslife247 2 years ago
im lost with the mixolydian relation to the aeolian to. i got all of the other stuff but that just screwes me up can anybody explain that
Basslife247 2 years ago
this shit just confuses me. .Granted i know basically NOTHING about theory.. Gues ive got some homework to do.
sjm98126 2 years ago
Just pause it at any part you don't understand, learn everything about that part then resume.
rrrrsssssssa2 2 years ago
Knowing basically nothing about theory isnt particularly a good start for understanding the modes =\ try to study first the intervals of major scale in different keys, see witch are the relative minor scales of the same key; then a bit of chords progressions, how to create a progression from a key (major and minor), how to built different chords from a same key (Cmaj7, C7, Cdim, Cadd9, Csus4, C, Cm, Csus2, etc...) just take some holidays to do it LoL, then youll get with no prob.
eNopLuSuS 2 years ago
First, you gotta learn the whole intervals, the cromatic scale and then the Major Scale, modes is not that easier for begginers.
faig1958 2 years ago
the locrian example sounds like foul body autopsy by necrophagist
abigor731 2 years ago
but seriously.....
I am learning the guitar and he does do a good job so I will just watch again and go with it
thanks for posting all 3
lookylooky2006 2 years ago
thank god I'm a singer
lookylooky2006 2 years ago
Awsome lesson, Only bit I got a little lost in was why he related mixolydian to aeolian and used C#m instead of using E major. After understanding the lessons before that one I would have expected and thought he'd have used the E major started with the B note and away he went. But he pulled this aeolian relation thing out and ends up using C#m damn lol that really lost me. Great lesson so far though Vinn is the man. Cheers, IC.
IcechickenSr 2 years ago 2
mixolydian reminds me of walk like an egyptian
UnchainTheNight1 2 years ago
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hey dudes see my shred video
pianomanmty 2 years ago
lol he shreds the hell out of it in the aolian mode :D
KingLarsus 2 years ago
great lessons. great guy, so down to earth as billykid said.
Zomroy 2 years ago
You gotta love Vinnie. He seems like he would be such a great, patient teacher. He also seems like he'd be so down to earth and approachable, not having the typical arms-crossed, burning laser stare that so many of these "shredder-types" seem to possess.
billykid84 2 years ago
he sounds like hes going WWAAYY out of key in locrin but he isnt ha!
dontobeay 2 years ago 2
haha when he gets to aeolian he fucking shreds so much harder then any other, i wonder why? great video
bimwopbarn 3 years ago 2
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"then", wouldn't that be "than"?
livewire1333 3 years ago
who gives a flying fuck did u understand wat i meant or not?
bimwopbarn 3 years ago 8
that was a great lesson i enjoyed it thanks for the post
shadiepawn 3 years ago
sounds bagpipish..
Shanejulien 3 years ago
ok i have a progression in key of Fmaj it goes
(I) Fmaj (IV)Bb Maj (II) Gmin (III) Amin (I) Fmaj
do i change the mode im using for each chord? So like i use F Ionian over the first 2 chords then at the Gmin can i use the Dorian mode. which has the same notes as a Eb maj scale???
TomPlaysGuitarAlot 3 years ago
No your progression is just an F major progression. It resolves to F completely. Play F major over it.
oregonskateok 3 years ago
how the hell can B Locrian be the "wierd" one when its the same as A Aeolian??...(I now that Locrian is Dim)
The same goes for the other modes, how can for example B Ionian have a happy sound when B ionian is the same as G# Aeolian wich is a minor mode and have sad sound???????? plz someone explane!!!!
Stisy1992 3 years ago
G# Aeolian is sad sounding compared G# Ionian.
B Ionian is happy sounding compared to B Aeolian.
roost24 3 years ago
yeah , but thats totally subjective
besides music is ont only sad or happy
B major may sound rushed to someone for example
tekhiun 3 years ago
Shut the fuck up, of course it is subjective dumbass. I was explaining what the guy meant in the video. Dumb fucker go away you annoying piss ant.
roost24 3 years ago
wth ??? why do you need to be so offensive ?? i did not intend to offend you dude , chill wtf.
tekhiun 3 years ago
No, it isn't.
audiobuttmaster 3 years ago
Audiobuttfucker is a dumbfucker.
roost24 3 years ago
Shut up, cocksmoking pigfucking piece of shit.
audiobuttmaster 3 years ago
he says its the weird one , because in all other modes the tonic chord has a perfect 5th , in this one the 5th is flattened
tekhiun 3 years ago
B ionian and G# Aeolian are the same collection of notes. If you played them as a scale they sound exactly the same, the only difference being that you would start your scale on either B or G#. But it's the same scale. What makes it happy or sad or whatever is in Ionian you are playing the scale over a B major chord. In Aeolian, you are playing the scale over a G# minor chord. The way the same scale interacts with different chords is what people attribute different feelings to.
marcrothman 3 years ago 2
of course if you listen to stuff like blink 182...
but there are more interesting music =)
bringonthebacklash 3 years ago
Modes are for theory analysis not for soloing! Don't wast you time trying to solo with them!!!! What if you have an altered chord (G+-7 Or F9b5)? Or chords not in the same key? Modes do not allow you to play to most of the songs you here every day. That why we have the pentatonic (back to basics) scale!!!! You need to play according to the chord tones based around the pentatonic scale like a real pro does. You need to know every note on the fret board.
Eliteguitarschool 3 years ago
Obviously, there are some chords that modes don't cover. But a lot of times you can solo using modes, especially if it's a rock song and there's not a lot of "weird" chords (not that they're weird, I don't know what else to call them). If you're playing pentatonic, why not play dorian? It's the same thing, just with more notes and it sounds better.
JimiFloyd 3 years ago
i am enlightened :)) You're the man Vin!!!!!!!
zeleniz2 3 years ago
i didnt understand the lydian mode....what key is it??? is it E?
gutiole 3 years ago
the best way that i found to it's C= ionian ( CDEFGAB) the next c its the octave D= dorian (DEFGABC)ther next d its octave
E=phrigian (EFGABCD)
F=lydian (FGABCDE)
G=mixolydian (GABCDEF)
A= Aeolean ( ABCDEFG)
B =locrian (BCDEFGA)
if you know you need to understan the spaces between a tones
dragonoise 3 years ago
Thank you Vinnie!
LuisanN 3 years ago
steve vai often uses Lydian and dorian
versierterXXL 3 years ago 2
And he learned from who?? Thats right Joe Satriani
MusiciansQuarters 3 years ago
and i learned that and much more from a old book so old book > joe satriani ???
tekhiun 3 years ago
can someone tab out his aelion mode at 4:00 ?
Terrible1 3 years ago
The notes are B C# D E F# G A B, just play those anywhere on the fretboard.
oregonskateok 3 years ago
HEY LETS JAM IN B MIXOLYDIAN haha
id be like wtf you talking bout haha
i need to learn majors and minors and what flats are and all that stuff =[
Terrible1 3 years ago
No idea why justplayman posted that redundant information.
Thanks Vinnie.
azkeyz 3 years ago
i got it,its norwegian woods,i guess :)
faiziiiiii 3 years ago
can anyone tell me what is he playing from 2:30 to 2:50,im sure this is some song.... help guys
thanks
faiziiiiii 3 years ago
Man, he certainly opened so many doors for, all this time I was ignoring modes and this lesson really opened my eyes to it and made me understand it. Can;t wait ti start practising them. Thanks a lot for posting these man, Vinie Moore rocks!!!!!!!!
pbharali 3 years ago 2
1. A-Ionian is an A chord over the key of A scale. A is the first note in the key of A.
2. A-Dorian is an A chord over the key of G scale. A is the second note the key of G.
3. A-Phrygian is an A chord over the key of F scale. A is the third note in the key of F.
4. A-Lydian is an A chord over the key of E scale. A is the fourth note in the key of E.
justplayman 3 years ago 2
modes arent chords....
oregonskateok 3 years ago
bahh.. i just got a lot of suger in my mouth.. you know when you drink tea and put sugar in.. and not all the sugar mix with the water.. and then the ast bit of tea just tastes like candy or something... not what you would expect..
Neoclassicalguitar89 3 years ago
its stil pretty confusing XD
Stick2208 3 years ago
I've had a million different guys tell me about modes a million different times - now I get it! Dude, thanks for posting this, you have no idea how long I've been searching for a explanation of the modes!
chaditudes 3 years ago
hahaha
"please ignore the couple of wrong notes ... from the majority which were right, i hope" hahaha, love this guy
FretWanker 3 years ago
Thanks for putting this on. I actually understand modes now...lol.
I can't believe I understand.
This is awesome!
mduckworth73 3 years ago
Ha Blue Wind by jeff beck on the myxolidian demo. Didn't realized vin was a jeff beck fan!
chillichomper 3 years ago
I learned that Lydian was the "Movie Mode" from this guy.
justy256 3 years ago
THX so much your vids are great n very helpfull
1analist 3 years ago
Yes! I noticed that little lick from Norwegian Wood and I knew it was a Beatles song but I couldn't remember which, so I had this paused while I was rummaging around for like 5 minutes and I finally remembered it was that song, so I resumed this and he just said it -_-
D0g63rt 3 years ago
It's just funny to see him talking serious musical theory in his 80's metal haircut
D0g63rt 3 years ago 2
I need to go by this asap.
tropics1020 3 years ago
Thanks for these videos. I finally understand how to use modes.
CKmusic22 3 years ago
also in his aeolian mode example, he plays a di meola influenced lick that sounds haunting and victorious...
FateOfTheArt 3 years ago 5
Awesome, I heard he played a Jeff Beck lick in there:D
jan1080 3 years ago
yeah, lydian is the movie mode or as I like to call it, the Steve Vai mode, lol.
xziggystardustx 3 years ago
I love his playing example of the Aeolian mode...HOT
FateOfTheArt 3 years ago 4
Yeh the movie mode lol i also liked the western mode for Dorian i always struggled to place tht one but its a great comparison i think!
Daveyo5150 3 years ago
he's so right about ldyian being in movies
DtFaN93 3 years ago 2