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  • that tutorial didnt help at all...

  • Why are the marks on your snare so close to the edge....you probably wouldnt need the mufflers if you knew what it sounded like to hit the snare in the right place.

  • there are also things like studio rings (zero rings), or moon gel

  • @drummerman875 NO. NEVER use moon gel..... it doesnt muffle sound, just kills it. but I love studio rings :)

  • @acedrummer2590 i agree. i have a pair of studio rings myself.

  • @acedrummer2590 some recording studios like to use moon gel so sometimes you need it :)

  • i think i know that guy peronally!

  • Muffling drums is one thing: killing them is another.

  • soooo.............WHAT??

  • he just needs to tight the snares more and it will sound good

  • i think that the people of xpert village should make a good thing for humanity by killing themselves (sorry for my english...not from us)

  • just tune it right and most snares have self mufflers attached. and tune the resonant head pretty high u should be good. and have the snares pretty damn tight, thats how i do it

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  • you are ringo star

  • @cristopher4026 wtf?

  • @cristopher4026 lol wut

  • @Nitram916 IKR :p

  • Evans Drum heads maintains a page here as well as Bob Gatzen. Go to either, through the search function of this site, and you will find much in the way of proper tuning technique. It matters not if you use their heads, just that you tune properly.

  • There is absolutely NO substitute for good old fashioned tuning technique. Please, tune that puppy up. There is one video that will get you the sweetest tuning you'll ever play. I am not trying to be ugly or a prick. Bob Gatzen shows us the easiest, cleanest and best tuning you can get on a snare, and it is easy to follow for a novice player. I can't play a lick, but my drums sound great. Do it for yourself, not us youtube and other pricks.

  • ok...i was just playing around and set a piece of sheet music down on my snare and started playing on it...it works great! all it is is a simple piece of notebook paper taped to the batter head. i know its not professional...but it works great! try it!

  • I just found out about expertvillage... i regret it

  • dude i cut a side of the vic firth sticks' little box and sticked it to the head, as the inside is white and i used paper tape it's not seen easily and it really works, i'll make a video to show it when i get a little time

  • I wonder how old this drummer is and how many studio sessions or live gigs he has played. When I was a kid I muffled EVERYTHING. Now--the ONLY time I put anything on my snare is to spare my bandmates ears when playing on a tiny stage or in a small acoustcally shitty room.

  • crappy snare sound

  • good lord please dont ever muffle a snare drum!!!!! sigh

  • remo power stroke 3 heads along with cast hoops are a good option too. The cast hoops are an expensive route, but they really control the sound on my snare.

  • Duct tape? Really? Moongel or O-ring ftw.

  • that snare sounded fine. why ruin it.

  • for god sake, don't use duct tape. I use MOONgel, if you really wan't to extreme muffle your snaredrum, use you wallet ;)

  • youtube.com/watch?v=cXH2cJmQhU­k

    

  • what works much better than duct tape is putting a rag over the snare..... i falls off sometimes tho so it might not be the best

  • get a mapex black panther (wooden not metal) snare, sound amazing straight out of the box and can be tuned dead or resonant !

  • You don't need to muffle your snare if you don't blow at tuning. Every snare I've had are really easy, in fact the easiest to tune. Expert Village sucks.

  • moongel all the way!

  • freedrumslessons are much better.

  • best way to do it: i use this on my snare: tuned the heads ot the perfect pitch i wanted, put a moon gen over the evans logo on my drum head and then put an E-ring on top of it, it mufles it times 2, and if its over the logo you get even more muffle from the moon gel. idk why but it works.

  • he says appropriately alot

  • what about tone rings?

  • i use tape and moon gel

  • you can use masking tape to, it's better than duck tape

  • lay a t-shirt over it, or a sweater, that'll be good lol

  • use an 14inch O-ring if you want the RING to go away...

  • Duct tape if for drummers that can't tune LOL

  • if you use duct tape or gaffers tape, you run the risk of several things:

    A: ripping your drumhead

    B: ripping the coating off your head (if you use coated)

    C: leaving one HELL of a mess from the adhesive on your head

    i wont use it for muffling ever, only if i need a quick fix to hold a stand up or something.

    use moongel, a full, half or third of a O-ring, use self-muffling heads...or best yet....no muffling at all if you have good heads and good tuning :)

  • don't muffle a snare drum, unless you are a retard who can't tune it.

  • @Skutieos7 I was right about to type that. Then I read your comment and just decided to thumbs-up it instead.

  • @Skutieos7 That's not the case, brother... The purpose of people use O-Ring or Moongel is to eliminate the annoying overtones ... You're statement is true though. I've seen a noob using an O-Ring and 3 Moongel because he can't tune for shit! :D

  • @joshuachan56 Well, I can understand maybe 1 moongel. I think an O-ring is overkill though. It takes away from the character of the sound. But if you get any standard 2 ply coated snare head, you shouldn't really have to muffle it to achieve a good sound.

  • @Skutieos7 people muffle them to take away the ring or aftertone you sometimes get even when you can tune well

  • @thegeorge2496 maybe if you can't appreciate the sound of a snare drum

  • i dont like most expert village stuff but seriously duck tape works just fine, remo Os are good but you can get the same results with duck tape

  • shoot, i sometimes duct tape a paper towel. because im broke as shit haha

  • My friend puts his shoe to muffle whiny snares he doesn't have the time to re-tune

  • Give your snare that Power Rock sound. Get rid of that wire "splat" sound and have more drum sound come through on your snare drum get SWAT - Snare Wire Arrestor & Tuner Drum Muffler Dampener. Swat also helps control snare wire buzz. Go to eBay, enter "SWAT" in the search box and set to "Musical Instruments" category and read up, and listen to (YouTube link) what SWAT can do for your snare. Totally Revolutionary!

  • when I need help and searched it on youtube, when I see expert village. All I can say is \(-_-)/

  • i dont like expert village

  • paper napkin nad duck tape RULE :D 

  • Duct Tape.

    I just did the whole video for you.

  • Put some socks on it. Done

  • thanks ,that was very helpful

  • i have yet to see a video from expert village with properly timed subtitles =/

  • technically if your tuning method and your drumheads are decent, you shouldnt need to muffle your drums at all.

    i dont muffle any of my drums at all, dont need to. good tuning + aquarian drumheads = perfect sound (for me at least)

  • MOON GEL, every single time, that is after you have tuned it correctly. You cant just mask poor tuning with tape. And if you are recording you can usually gate out high "ring" on the desk. Dont put tape on your drums.

  • when im playing to muffle the sound i keep one stick pressed aginst the snare

  • Sabian.....because sound matters.

  • "Hi, we're expertvillage and we don't know what we're doing look at this shitty snare drum derp derp derp"

  • Yup......If you can't duck it, fuck it. : )

  • is there an easy way to muffle drums, i tryed taping cotton wool on lol, doesnt work that well. i dont wanna pay for nothin, there has to be an easy fix?

  • i just tune mine right haha... it takes me a day to tune just my floor tom (no kidding) so... yeah... odont spend money on stuff... just tune it right

  • its called a powerstroke 3. buy it. don't tape it.

  • i have a decent snare drum and not-so-awful heads, and i find 2 strips of electrical tape take that extra ring out real nice. i tried it out, it sounds just like i want it to sound, so i haven't bothered paying for gels or rings.

  • mike portnoy uses ducktape

  • Use what you can to get the sound you want. Anything about being "professional" is a red flag for a certifiable douche. I went to the toy store and got a gel-toy and cut it up into pieces. I've been using them for 5 years now. They are cheaper than the "professional" gels, the same material, and you can cut them into any size. If they get dirty, wash them. Gaffer tape is great, too. Powerstroke, X, and Evans Hydraulic are mellow heads even when tuned high...

  • @TheCalamities hey i want to see these gel-toys your talking about, maybe you should do a video. I'd watch it. And don't give me any " i don't know how to make a video".

  • shut up, Steve of Blue's Clues...

  • i have the same highhats as you :D

  • you can also use office putty

  • Duct tape IS NOT USED for ducts,for ducts it is a slivery tape as it aheres better,wanna know the uses for duct tape watch the Red Green show!!! I my self dont use any tape for muffling recording or not,good enough for Joh Bohnan good

    enough for me...

  • i use gel shoe inserts to make my toms and bass drum sounds awsome!

    buy a gel shoe insert , cut out a circle out it and tape it on the backside of your toms!

    try it!

  • learned nothin what so ever

  • take a CD and duct tape it onto the batter head. Work like a charm.

  • if you don't want to use duct tape gaffers tape does the same thing without leaving a nasty residue

  • NEVER muffle a snare drum. You can adjust ring by tuning (especially the bottom head). I've played for 15 years, and when you muffle a snare you lose all the character of the drum and reduce it to a flat sterile smacki.

  • @BleedingWalls420 i'm with this guy. learn to tune, and also learn what heads will best suit the sound you're aiming for. i've recorded in multiple rooms with different acoustic properties, and never had a problem. you can't polish a turd, but a good engineer can get your drums and make them sound like any room you want them to be in.

  • i use my mail envelopes :) works quite well on my snare

  • I used to use gaffer tape to muffle my snare, but I recently bought a new head and thought I'd try out moon gel, it works great, Id definitely recommend it.

  • expert village sux, how made this crap up?

  • ur vids are quite shitty

  • use a damper ring.

  • @hpbryan personaly i think that moon gel is better because damper ring may fall off if you have tilted you toms to much but moon gel sticks to your drum head nicely :) check out my video on it

  • Noob, hit the center of your snare drum!

  • i used 2 have duct tape then i took it off

  • you can get self-muffling heads that do the same jobs.

    there is moongel, external dampeners, o-rings, and jsut plain good tuning.

    i wish everyone at expert village would learn what to do!

  • @gabbalabbawoop what about the evan e-rings?

  • @geochaosakanick e-rings are the exact same thing as aquarian studio rings, and rem-O's, all the same type of o-ring.

    i suppose there is also the mini-EMAD system, and the Remo Dave Weckl Active Snare Gate Dampening System...which i suppose isnt too bad.

    but they also forgot to mention the pre-muffled heads like aquarian studio-X and focus-X heads.

  • @gabbalabbawoop or you can do what i did which was get those cheap no slip pads at the dollar store and get really strong tape (not duct!) and put them on the left and right sides of your snare head. works perfect for me

  • @chrisx8x23x95 ture thats one way of doing it, but i prefer not to use any form of tape on my snares at all, because i dont want to spend ages cleaning the residue off the head, plus i dont want to risk ripping the coating off the head when i remove the tape.

    i only muffle snares if the drummer i'm working with asks me to, or it fits the music when i'm playing with a band, and even then i use moongel or the dave weckl snare dampener. cause i let my snare ring ture and keep it wide open :)

  • @gabbalabbawoop or the ghetto way,paper towel with some ducttape.

  • horrible videos

  • it's the mapex M birch! is'nt it?

    i have have the same kit in charry red ;)

  • duct tape is [guess!!!]...for DUCTS!!!

    If u r gonna muffle drums use proper muffling materials, remo O-rings are great, or moongel, go to any decent instrument store and you'll find a variety of muffling options... but please dont use duct tape or kleenex... those are un-proffesional and dont really give great results

  • Also, first is proper tunning, if you really learn to tune your drums properly you wont need much muffling, or any at all.

    Simon phillips, for example, doesnt use ANY muffling on most of his drums, only minimal muffling on the bass drum, thats it, DONT BE A LAZY DRUMER, LEARN HOW TO TUNE!!!

  • Yeah the o-rings seem to work best. I found that even though it may sound like the toms still ring a bit, it doesn't show up when you record the kit. or when you play live with other instruments

  • @nnero0 Duct tape, despite its name, is not used for ducts.

  • @fernank017 uuhm... sorry to disappoint you, but it is used for ducts... there's a reason why you buy it at Home Depot, not at Guitar Center, right?

    I mean... come on, facts here:

    Travis barker uses duct tape, ALL OVER his set... and the guy is not really that much of a great drummer

    But when did u see Vinnie Colaiuta use ANY of it? I mean, Simon Phillips doesnt muffle his drums AT ALL ... if someone cant get a decent sound without mistreating drums with duct tape, they should learn how to

  • @nnero0 are you dense? duct tape was originally used to seal up crates for the military...duct tape CAN NOT WITHSTAND HIGH TEMPERATURES on ducts, which is why they are not supposed to seal up ducts. please get your facts straight...so what if you buy it at home depot? you can also but it at walmart...

  • @fernank017 Ok ok ok , i was wrong and u were right, its not for ducts whATEVER, ITS NOT FOR DRUMS, IT DOES A MEDIOCRE MUFFLING JOB AND DAMAGES DRUMS AND HEADS, THE REAL USE OF IT DOESNT EVEN MATTER HERE, THE POST IS ABOUT DRUMS, NOT ABOUT DUCT TAPE [sorry about caps i didnt notice i had caps locked and i'm too lazy to write that again]

  • @nnero0 I know they're not for drums, I never said that they were. I was just correcting you when you said that its for ducts. I know that using duct tape for drums is unprofessional

  • @nnero0 is gorilla tape for gorillas?

  • And crazy glue for crazy?

  • @nnero0 im canadian and if i wanna use duct tape i will ;D

  • @nnero0 All depends on the sound you want, try not to limit yourself in music. Thats my motto. But then again some musicians work best with some limits. But unprofessional status shouldn't be the limit. Heck some drummers use Trash kits which are essentially trash, like old barrels and such. And it works for the songs they use em for.

  • on my  floor tom i let it ring

  • if you put duct tape on it, would it be straight up in the middle or off the side? And would i aslo be able to pull it off without damage to the snare?

  • what i recommend are moon gels

  • i just use remo O-Rings and one piece of duct tape and mine sounds just as good as perts without triggers

  • How bout an audio ring?

  • yes i did a fashist is someone who try's to look good and be fashionable retard your word is political bullshit  and fuck you by the way ....

  • Man, don't be so uptight about it. I see how you feel about it and all, but really, all he's thinking is about how the pros usually don't have tape on.

  • fuck you bro i use tape live ...i don't give a fuck how you think i look its how you sound you fashist..

    this is why music sucks today cause people like you worry bout how the fuck you look.

  • i agree i have ocdp snares and i put tape on mine so its not like someone is gona come up omg u use duck tape

  • its spelt fascist lrn2spell

  • It's not about what you use, it's how you use it. This video suggests some muffling possibilities, but doesn't show how to muffle the snare drum. Stuff like finding where those nasty overtones are and gaffering or moongelling that particular spot.

  • tape doesn't do it for me. I find socks work best. Draped over the furthest side away from you or side ur least likely to hit near....

  • I don't muffle my snare. I tune it. (:

  • its the same.... just that the fact if you muffle, the sound you hear is the hit and not the echo.

  • What if you wanted to achieve a dead, tight 70s snare sound? Would you still be "above" muffling then?

  • Well, I just use Evans E-rings for that. But most of the time it's not my style, really. I see where you're coming from though; that 70's sound usually comes better from a new drum head tuned low with every other lug on the resonant side tuned a full turn lower than the other. That usually does it for me, haha.

  • There is nothing wrong with duct tape at all! It's quick, easy and does the job just as good as rings or moongel but people dont steal it! lol I'm a sound engineer as well and I find duct tape all over the place so all is good! =)

  • TUNE IT? c'mon! in Bb I supposed!

  • hey their is nothing wrong w/ duct tape.. i use it for recording and it sounds way better that those o rings or whatever their called. and my recording sounds really clean!!!!

  • Yeah the only thing is, DONT USE TAPE LIVE. if you use tape live you look like a hobo.

  • if u put it on tidy, u dont! and i dont want to play to a crowd standing behind of above me. lol

    but i agree, bet moongels instead

  • their is nothing wrong with using duct tape,its quick and easy,just dont put it in the middle of the head,sometimes i put a piece of cloth under the tape befor i tape it,and if your worried about how it looks than you should be in the modeling business,sound is more important than looks,besides no one will see it anyways,and another way to get a different sound from your snare drum is to put a piece of duct tape right on the snares,like tape your snares to the bottom of the head(just a little)

  • mmmmm

  • tune it!!! that isn't tuned

  • i just put a litlle bit of cloth on top o the head

  • pearl firecracker snare no need to muffle its just fucking loud

  • muffling the snare drum is always a bad idea. if it is resonating more than you want, you're using the wrong head or the wrong tuning

  • what about those rings?

  • lol...yes it's better to get Evans E-Ring and put one one the snare same as the toms is used for.

  • those rings are good but you can hear them rattling and that could ruin a recording. "moongels" are the best way to dampen the head. They work like tape except you can take thme off and move them around and they look like new after you wash them for 5 seconds

  • don't use duct tape...that's just foolish.

    try masking tape and a folded paper towel...there you go, no damage and same effect.

  • yes do not put duck tape on it i play and i learned the hard way

  • AGREED

  • when you record you can remove the ring of the snare or any drum

  • i have white duct tape it doesnt look its there its awesome

  • Duct tape is the biggest no no a drummer could ever put on their drums

  • why?????

  • Because duct tape dampens/muffles the sound TOO much, and makes the head vibrate less, which is like having a 3 or 4 ply head. And when you take it off, the adhesive can ruin coated drum heads and leave the adhesive on the head. Plus, it just looks plain ugly to me.

  • I think its not so hard to get a great sound out of your snare just try a lot and every drummes has his own way of thinking way of listening and way of making sounds.

    For me as metal drummer i like a very short and tight sound,

    I tune my top as tight as i can and the bodom a little bit less then if got a great sound, if i want a more short sound i use a little bit ducttape ( A new Snarehead is even as expancive as most tapes:P ) so thats my way of tuning my snare drum

  • interjection:

    recording includes an array of sounds.

    muting a drum is an option, not a rule.

    a good engineer & producer working on a recording WANTS the drum to ring out.

    mutes are better for live applications where the drummer may not have figured out how to play the kit evenly so that accents sound focused, etc.

    N a recording studio, u WANT harmonics so that the prod./engr has something to work with as far as shaping the sound.

    and use gaffer's tape NOT duct tape on yer heads!

  • if u use fuck tape dont leave it on unless ur using the drum cuz it will leave shit on the head

  • Definitely buy RTOM moongels. They work so good and it makes your 50 dollar snare sound like 400 dollars.

  • you know that's right.

  • wat i do is turn it upside down and put a cover over it folded up. it sounds great. its just a gammon and the snare sounded horrible til i did that

  • the black stain-stuff luks lyk boobs on his snare

  • He put his ass on the snare,thats the reason. haha oO strange format of the stain!

  • LOL Metal Munchies (puts on English yokel accent) "ooo arrgh.....that snare sounds kind of boxy now what em Mongoloids running around, laying waste to 'em villages and whatnot..."

  • where do you put the duct tape

  • Buy some mongols?? Do you mean Moon Gels/ (lol, it's cool man)...just had visions of gaff taping Genghis Khan onto my Starclassic Snare XD

  • haha.. lets tape Genghis Khan to you're snare to get a real.. AAAAHHHH!!!! sound out of your drum.. lol

  • buy some mongols or just take paper towel and tape it on their

  • i found a really good way to muffle my snare tune it then take a roll of toilet paper take three squares fold them so it looks like one and then fold it inhalf length wise then take a strip of gaff tape or two and push the toilet paper on the snare and tape it as tight as possible it sounds so nice this guys way works too but i like my way ive been using it for 5 years and it works

  • try tuning the snare a little better too haha

  • hey man, you can use moon gels on the edges of the drums and they sound AMAZING!! a buddy from the studio told me about them and i tried them and they arethe best sound i have gotten out of drums in a while

  • every body has ways of muffling your drums some ppl dont like other ppls way of doing it but it dont matter to that person caues its what the player wants i hate win ppl bark out orders what ever the player wants them to sound like

  • if you buy evans ec2 heads for the toms, and genera head for the snare, with a 300 hazy resonant on bottom (at least for me) you never will ever want to touch duct tape. i hate it. dont use it. it wrecks heads.

  • black pheonix, also the bottom head in general needs to be tighter. nytopdx is exactly right. and by the way, dont worry about the rattling too much. even the best drummers in the worlds kits do the exact same thing. but it doesnt matter. if i got 50+ feet away from your kit, its completely gone. what the drummer hears is nowhere close to what it usually sounds like. thats why its necessary to have a friend with you when you buy cymbals, so you can hear what they sound like away from the kit.

  • Eurgh!, All I can hear is my snare rattling when I hit my toms, I try and tighten them with the knob but it still does it, I dont want to turn it too much. Would I need a new snare chain thing?

  • you could try tightening the lugs on either side of the snare wires on the snare side head.

  • i have the same problem did u ever get any feed back on ur question. if so could u let me know?

  • The only feedback I got was a guy calling me a retard just because I started up drums again after 3 years of not playing them!. Some people eh? Jeeze...

  • in you get some painters tape, run a little strip across the the snare short ways and you will get rid of the rattle. if its is really bad, you can use two or how ever many you need

  • retard

  • Because that was completely mature...-.-

  • that was great ;)

  • Yeah!!! haha I use duct Tape Whooooo!!!!!!