1.) Sanshou or Sanda are highly effective (Check out Cung Le, among others) 2.) If you have to dye your hair like that douchebag then you shouldn't be called a champion of anything.
@XxOnto86xX If the description can be trusted, it's Sanshou. Additionally the stance is wrong for Tai Kwan Do. And dying your hair has to do with humility, something lacking in a lot of modern pro athletes, Rodman included. I myself am a 13 time state champion in my sport and a 3x National competitor, I never did that crap. Win with grace and lose with grace, or don't compete.
that aisan sucked he only had 2 tequnieces side kick and head kick. i was waiting for the boxer to step aroud his predictable kicks and just counter ko him. asain sucked and the boxer was blind didnt see he only new 2 things
I hate when people use "UFC" to describe MMA.... UFC is just a company..... UFC is not a sport or style of fighting.... thats like calling all cars a ford... UFC boxing is like a Ford Civic.... or Ford camaro
Ok so let's clear this up. The Chinese guy is using San Da or San Shou. It is a modern kung fu style that uses punches, kicks and throws, but nothing else. Notice how he doesn't use knees, elbows or a clinch? That's because he doesn't know Muay Thai. See how the "UFC" guy (that's Jens Pulver, by the way) can use the clinch, knees and elbows? That's because MMA/UFC fighters use Muay Thai as part of their training. Also, Muay Thai is older than San Da, and can be considered a kung fu style too.
@TheQais99 There are over 400 documented styles of Kung Fu, probably a heap more that arent documented.
This one is called San-Da. It shares a lot of similarities with Muay Thai and is used in Boxing rings in China with full boxing gear. The Chinese army use a specialized form of San-Da as their CQC
what I'm seeing in these videos where "kungfu" does well is that the guy saying he practices "a modern kungfu" is actually just learning other martial arts since kungfu is as practical as tai chi. This is a kick boxing match. nothing else
@yulichenlu well excuse me for not knowing all of the fucking martial arts of the world you prick... I can't begin to imagine how types of chinese martial arts there are, and i'm pretty sure you don't know how many there are either
@gambleyourhealth It is a modern style developed by the Chinese military because traditional Kung Fu honestly just is not that effective. So in comparison to Muay Thai, it is very young. Chinese were competitive against the Thai boxers because their Kung Fu fighters were being KO'd so easily. You only have to look at Sanda and see how blatantly obvious it is similar to Muay Thai.
@gambleyourhealth Not really, bar a few practitioners that could actually utilize it realistically. Most forms of Kung Fu have been shown to be majorly ineffective in real situations. Bruce Lee was one of the first to point that out and he was right about it. They have stances that are unbalanced, some even looking like contortionists. Wasted energy on unnecessary movements. Wing Chun is one of the few that are effective because its based on a human body. Not a tiger, crane, mantis etc.
@gambleyourhealth What am I supposed to do? Travel and bring a few KF fighters to you? Its just common knowledge. And is the reason why Kung Fu never fairs well in many fight tournaments because it isnt that effective. I think you have it back to front. It was the Chinese having trouble with western boxing because the movements werent robotic and les predictable. They had the same problem with Japanese fighters because their style was more combat oriented and less bogged down by tradition.
@goulter1985 you obviously never seen chinese MMA, also if you think kung fu is not effective you should try going a few rounds with a sanda fighter lol
@gambleyourhealth In terms of combat those acrobatics are about as useless as aCapoeira fighter spinning on his hands. I just think theres alot of myth to it because they always go on about never fighting yet always make the claim to being the most well trained fighters. Like anything, if you only say, and not do...its nothing but talk. And thats all Ive ever seen from these "Shaolin". Big noting themselves and never proving it. Actions speak louder than words.
@goulter1985 "In terms of combat those acrobatics are about as useless as aCapoeira fighter spinning on his hands"
Was there a part of demonstration shaolin and combat shaolin that you didnt understand? They are two separate things. Do some research. Many western fighters had problems with wushu fighters, Huo Yuanjia instantly comes to mind and defeated all before him. But he was not the only one. Again, do some reading THEN comment.
@gambleyourhealth Yes I know the difference between demonstration and combat. Thats why I said in terms of combat...pretty simple. Huo Yuanjia comes to mind because he was one of the few that actually could. If all those KF fighters had such an easy time with boxers Yuanjia would not be nearly as famous as he is, he is known for being one of the few that beat boxers, japanese fighters etc. The majority of KF fighters were losing during the time.
@goulter1985 "The majority of KF fighters were losing during the time"
This is incorrect. Chinese people were loosing at the time, not KF fighters.
KF was not nearly as prolifically taught in those days. It was reserved for specific families and their friends in closed door schools. (Different families of WuShu)
@gambleyourhealth Having a different opinion btw doesnt mean someone is stupid or uninformed, its called an opinion for a reason. Follow your own words and do some research, this time do it in a dictionary and look up the word "opinion" though because apparently its a foreign term for you.
@goulter1985 Thats a common one I see. Whenever a Kung Fu fighter loses in any competition the KF fanatics come out "oh he isnt a REAL Kung Fu fighter hes just a wannabe". Maybe have some grace in defeat and admit a loss instead of making excuses.
@goulter1985 ""Whenever a Kung Fu fighter loses in any competition the KF fanatics come out "oh he isnt a REAL Kung Fu fighter hes just a wannabe"""
Is that right? I bet you cannot present an example of that either. ANY KF fighter in a tournament you can find will have trained 3 years AT MOST. . . . . ANY.
You couldnt present one before and you still cant now.
@gambleyourhealth And yes KF fighters do enter tournaments, Huo Yuanjia did so himself numerous times. Is he a wannabe too? There is nothing wrong with competition, and alot of skill in combat comes from experience.KF has very little sparring, its very controlled, doesnt flow or free form.Thats why they notoriously lose in competition because they are not adjusted to the battering. There have been fights in Thailand resulting in the KF fighters all getting first round KO's, again,no conditioning
@goulter1985 "And yes KF fighters do enter tournaments, Huo Yuanjia did so himself numerous times"
You are COMPLETELY misunderstanding my meaning. HY was challenged constantly. They werent Tournaments, most of the time they were death matches. None of this rule bullshit.
"KF has very little sparring, its very controlled, doesnt flow or free form"
Says who? You? One of the styles I practice is WC. I freestyle this all the time. I spar it, and I use the MYJ freestyle all the time.
Shaolin are forbidden to enter tournaments. The Martial Arts are a part of their religion and not used for mere competition or human entertainment. The martial Arts were used to defend themselves from ARMED warlords and their armies. Which they did quite well for HUNDREDS of years in many cases.
Here is a Non-Monk shaolin trained fighter.
/watch?v=wN89wVzj4W8
Kicking the shit out of an IKF champ (and navy seal)
"And thats all Ive ever seen from these "Shaolin". Big noting themselves and never proving it"
Show me ONE video of Shaolin monks big noting themselves.
"And is the reason why Kung Fu never fairs well in many fight tournaments because it isnt that effective"
No, the reason why it doesnt do well in tournaments is because REAL KF fighters dont train for tournaments or enter tournaments. Its only KF wanna-be's that enter Tournaments.
KF has its place. Like all forms of martial arts. None are the "beat all" style, least of all MMA. If you train for rules you will use rules instinctively. Jason Chambers, an MMA fighter from the "human weapon" series proved that MANY times over the duration of the series.
So, all arts, including KF's have their merits, they all have their downsides too.
@goulter1985 CONTINUED MMA is a SPORT. Krav Maga is a kill or be killed art. Demonstration Shaolin is a SPORT Certain KF's are a Kill or be Killed art Judo is a SPORT Certain JMA's are a kill or be killed art. America has its KM equivalent called "MCMAP", thats not a sport BUT it borrowed techniques from CMA's, JMA's, FMA's and BJJ. ALL arts have their merits. Its the artist not the art. Its about how well you trained and how violent you are willing to be. Its that simple.
@gambleyourhealth Martial Arts evolve and get better like anything else. Kyokushin for example. One of the most recent forms of Karate, and generally the most effective. Alot of old school traditional Kung Fu fighters have done embarrassingly bad in Kyokushin tournaments because they are stuck in old mind sets and havnt advanced their style. All these Shaolin myths are the same. Breaking boards hitting rice bags with your head is good and well...but boards and rice arent human opponents.
I have never seen that blonde haired fighter fight in the UFC. Trust I've been a fan of mma and boxing for ages and ages. I can't believe he listed himself as a former light weight UFC champion. What a liar. And they should really consider auditing what fighter put down on their applications when they apply for fights. Stupid fucking liar. I can't believe someone would lie like that. It's so disresepctful.
@kickurassable you don't have a clue !! pull your head out your ass and google jens pulver!! aka lil evil !!! maybe then you can show some respect !!!
In situations like this fight, i hate the fact that people always want the 'Kung Fu guy' to win, typically because they want to see their fantasy martial arts films become a reality
In situations like this fight, i hate the fact that people always want the 'Kung Fu guy' to win, typically because they want to see their fantasy martial arts films become a reality
In every one of these fights between a boxer and kung fu or karate or tai kwon do that I've ever seen the boxer wins. He's just using punches while the other guy is allowed to kick and punch yet the boxer still wins. This tells me that the Asian martial arts aren't all that they're cracked up to be.
@JackKangaroo1 so how many boxing vs eastern asian martial arts fights have you seen? i can show you a few videos where asian martial artists beat the shit out of boxers, i train in both
@PhysicsVsFraud pride is better in my opinion, the UFC puts too much limit on jiu jitsu. i think pride shows the better mixed martial artist because you would actually have the time you need to submit somebody. although the old days of ufc was definitely the best
@PhysicsVsFraud UFC? I think you mean MMA. UFC is one promotion company, MMA is the sport. And I wouldn't say that. MMA might allow more techniques than any other combat sport, but it's not the only legitimate competition. MMA is still growing, and young. Boxing, Kickboxing, Thai Boxing and so on have plenty of legitimate competitors, I think MMA's talent pool is still relatively shallow. We have yet to really see enough true mixed martial artists like GSP, A. Silva, Aldo etc.
Jens Pulver... holy shit. Anyway, he's not a "UFC" boxer so much as he is an actual boxer who just happens to have held a UFC championship belt at one point. He was also considered for years to be the best lightweight in the world.
They're both kickboxing. What a dumb, misleading title. I will flag this video and ask that the title be changed or the video removed. Then the Chinese government will come and shoot the uploader.
@ljeckosunny its still kung fu. everything is kung fu, the word kung fu does not mean martial arts. it means leisure time i think you should take you own advice
@Mwwahaha Actually he is a Sanshou fighter, which is a modern form of Kung Fu (what we may call in the west 'Chinese Kickboxing). I spent a year in China doing both traditional kung fu and Sanshou, and this is very characteristic of it.
@Mwwahaha That IS Kung-Fu. It's called Wushu Sanshou or Sanda, DUMB-ASS. You probably only learned about Thai Boxing because of "UFC". Well guess what, mainstream boy bandwagon jumper, there are MORE striking arts that may look like Thai Boxing but are NOT Thai Boxing. This Kung-Fu style incorporates throws. Thai Boxers do NOT throw. Get it right, kid-o. Stop basing your martial arts "knowledge" on UFC. The world is bigger than that.
Even Bruce Lee said it himself, that anyone with 1 year of boxing and 1 year of wrestling can defeat any Martial Arts Specialist. The Myriad of MMA shows (UFC, PRIDE/FC, StrikeForce, Vale Tudo, wtvr) have proven it too.
@LeVaughnX Jens is no novice; he has been fighting professionally since about '98 and is a former lightweight champion but has had a rough last couple years.
Dumb... It is just a striking match, not MMA, UFC is a company dummy, MMA is the discipline, that combines pretty much any type of martial arts... hence MIXED MARTIAL ARTS... the winner will always be the one who decides where the fight will take place, and at the end it is all about who can impose his will.
These San Da guys out of China are legitimate, I respect them a lot win or lose. At least they are fighting, not claiming to be "against violence" or "too deadly" or whatever the latest excuse is.
Specialized techniques will never be superior to composite styles. Yeah Jens basically boxed his way through it. The key, however is that mma teaches points from many styles. Jens knew more about what to expect than his opponent. Those kicks, while skilled, were pointless.... once Jens adapted in order to strike his opponent, the Kung Fu guy really was out-classed. training in and against one combat method, be it Kung Fu or boxing, leaves you weak. Jens adapted, like water moving around a stone.
What you say is correct, a straight blast if you have your elbows tucked in is powerful. A big right cross in boxing is nearly always a fight ender. My point is that in a fight you want to land as many powerful punches/strikes as you can on your opponent to end their ability to harm you and/or win the fight. Throwing too many fast weak punches while in your opponents striking range only serves to open your defences.
There is all of this dispute between Jiu Jitsu vs. whatever. In cage fighting Jiu Jitsu is the best hands down. But Kung Fu, Karate, Aikido etc... all had their place in history. Jiu Jitsu is willing to except damage to achieve the dominant position, but this is no longer valid when said attacker has a knife or a metal bar. Now art forms that addressed weapon techniques are valid again. If you want to be a fighter learn Jiu Jitsu. If you want to be a warrior then learn them all.
For all his kicking he couldn't take a punch and really had no defense for punches. You bring shame to kung fu. You gotta learn the basics, and punching is super basic.
Kung Fu is complete shit and the asian guy in this fight is quite decent so obviously hes not a kung fu fighter. Looks more like an kick boxer fighter to me. They both do.
@MrOldestPerson Please don't perpetuate the poster's convoluted terminology. 'UFC" boxing? MMA stands for "Mixed Martial Arts"... So it includes various styles such as Muay Thai, Kung Fu, Karate, Greco-Roman Wrestling, BJJ, etc...
neither one of these guys would last 5 seconds in the ring with Von Helton(look him up on youtube), he is a master of 15 different forms of hand to hand combat, and would snap both these guys necks, that simple
The problem is that if you hypothetically throw 9 punches a second, to throw that many you'll need to pull your fist back on contact (which is essentially pulling a punch and delivers no power). To deliver power in a punch you need to take advantage of rotational torque. Kung-fu arm punches dont deliver this. Bruce Lee's JKD addressed this perfectly as he reduced it back to a combat art and removed all this flowery "look I'm a praying mantis" bs.
@Golledgem You confuse combat martial arts with ceremonial martial arts. Bruce lee practiced both. The ceremonial martial arts are supposed to look like a dance because essentially they are. The techniques could be used in combat I suppose, but not stringed together so fluidly as you would most likely lose sight of your opponent in the midst of a flashy flip. They're traditional styles usually associated with a Legend of some kind.
@xXEnkilXx Bruce Lee for all his skill wasn't really a fighter, you can't be a fighter if you don't fight. he had some fights when he was young and the only fights he had in the US were behind closed doors - he couldnt risk losing in public. training isnt fighting.
@MattG3128 Yea and fighting in a ring isnt fighting. real fighting has no rules. So if he did have more street encounters its as real as it gets. Not some stupid point system crap.
@Golledgem lol 9 punches a second is better then 1 every 1 and half seconds plus the fact that punch is deflected off to the side because it has the body behind it the kung fu fighter is able to get inside and deliver another 9 punches to the face or if they are well trained go for the throat and nerves such as the jugular and also are able to use pretty much any type of offensive move
@Golledgem Your not 100% correct. If I throw a punch like a boxer then yes. But If i throw a straight punch from my center and my body is behind my elbows then I have my weight behind each punch. There for I do not need that rotational torque to maintain power. Hence the ving tsun straight punch. Only problem is, this limits the angles I can attack from. A straight blast is nasty if its done correctly and at the right time.
1.) Sanshou or Sanda are highly effective (Check out Cung Le, among others) 2.) If you have to dye your hair like that douchebag then you shouldn't be called a champion of anything.
Schismyst 22 hours ago
@Schismyst
looks like tai kwan doh to me. and what does dying your hair having anything to do with any sport? Have you ever heard of Denis Rodman?
XxOnto86xX 14 hours ago
@XxOnto86xX If the description can be trusted, it's Sanshou. Additionally the stance is wrong for Tai Kwan Do. And dying your hair has to do with humility, something lacking in a lot of modern pro athletes, Rodman included. I myself am a 13 time state champion in my sport and a 3x National competitor, I never did that crap. Win with grace and lose with grace, or don't compete.
Schismyst 11 hours ago
@Schismyst
Yet who won?
armordooz 12 hours ago
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@Schismyst
Yet who won?
armordooz 12 hours ago
the likes and dislikes are even now!
thedeviantguy 23 hours ago
Thats not kung fu
amin1984 1 day ago
that aisan sucked he only had 2 tequnieces side kick and head kick. i was waiting for the boxer to step aroud his predictable kicks and just counter ko him. asain sucked and the boxer was blind didnt see he only new 2 things
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MrPeterpan56 2 days ago
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MrPeterpan56 2 days ago
I hate when people use "UFC" to describe MMA.... UFC is just a company..... UFC is not a sport or style of fighting.... thats like calling all cars a ford... UFC boxing is like a Ford Civic.... or Ford camaro
SuperMadklown 2 days ago 7
that chinise guy its fucking fast!
GamaAnimation 3 days ago
Fight starts at 1:27
Cacktopus 3 days ago
whats the name of the winner
ChannelTDS 4 days ago
沒有摔技的散打...根本贏不了MMA
s660403s660403 4 days ago
Ok so let's clear this up. The Chinese guy is using San Da or San Shou. It is a modern kung fu style that uses punches, kicks and throws, but nothing else. Notice how he doesn't use knees, elbows or a clinch? That's because he doesn't know Muay Thai. See how the "UFC" guy (that's Jens Pulver, by the way) can use the clinch, knees and elbows? That's because MMA/UFC fighters use Muay Thai as part of their training. Also, Muay Thai is older than San Da, and can be considered a kung fu style too.
ehukai2003 4 days ago
it isnt kung fu how can u do kung fu moves with boxing gloves on?
TheQais99 4 days ago
@TheQais99 There are over 400 documented styles of Kung Fu, probably a heap more that arent documented.
This one is called San-Da. It shares a lot of similarities with Muay Thai and is used in Boxing rings in China with full boxing gear. The Chinese army use a specialized form of San-Da as their CQC
gambleyourhealth 4 days ago
thats for doing stupid sidekicks. go pulver!
matkasim 5 days ago
no i think you mean, Muay Thai vs MMA boxing,in other words a k1 fight
highguy2k10 5 days ago
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alliheariswhawhawha1 6 days ago
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TheMascotTom 6 days ago
MAN those legs are FAST
Spar7an0ni 6 days ago
what I'm seeing in these videos where "kungfu" does well is that the guy saying he practices "a modern kungfu" is actually just learning other martial arts since kungfu is as practical as tai chi. This is a kick boxing match. nothing else
bonusjames 1 week ago
UFC Boxing...what is that supposed to be lol
TheRucksackman 1 week ago
@TheRucksackman I think its ment to be someone who can not cut it as a real boxer (at a guess)
CichlidAsh 1 week ago
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dubzystepz 1 week ago
This looks like thai boxing.... no kung fu LOL
Soulfide 1 week ago
@Soulfide its sanda dumbass, i learned it. Red chinese army - movidfied the kung fu to something like kick boxing, with kness and throws
yulichenlu 1 week ago
@yulichenlu well excuse me for not knowing all of the fucking martial arts of the world you prick... I can't begin to imagine how types of chinese martial arts there are, and i'm pretty sure you don't know how many there are either
Soulfide 1 week ago
@yulichenlu which basically means they made a copy of Muay Thai
goulter1985 6 days ago
@goulter1985 Or Thai's made a copy of San-Da.
gambleyourhealth 4 days ago
@gambleyourhealth Muay Thai is way way older than San Da
goulter1985 3 days ago
@goulter1985 Provable by what?
gambleyourhealth 3 days ago
@gambleyourhealth It is a modern style developed by the Chinese military because traditional Kung Fu honestly just is not that effective. So in comparison to Muay Thai, it is very young. Chinese were competitive against the Thai boxers because their Kung Fu fighters were being KO'd so easily. You only have to look at Sanda and see how blatantly obvious it is similar to Muay Thai.
goulter1985 3 days ago
@goulter1985 completely disagree on the effectiveness of Traditional KF.
western boxers struggled against it in the 18 and 19 hundreds.
gambleyourhealth 3 days ago
@gambleyourhealth Not really, bar a few practitioners that could actually utilize it realistically. Most forms of Kung Fu have been shown to be majorly ineffective in real situations. Bruce Lee was one of the first to point that out and he was right about it. They have stances that are unbalanced, some even looking like contortionists. Wasted energy on unnecessary movements. Wing Chun is one of the few that are effective because its based on a human body. Not a tiger, crane, mantis etc.
goulter1985 2 days ago
@goulter1985 "have been shown to be majorly ineffective in real situations"
Please, do show it.
"Breaking boards hitting rice bags with your head is good and well"
Shaolin has Demonstration art forms (acrobatics) and combat forms. They are completely separate things.
There have been PLENTY of KF practitioners that could utilize their skills. Which is why WB had so much trouble against it in the 18 and 19 hundreds.
gambleyourhealth 2 days ago
@gambleyourhealth What am I supposed to do? Travel and bring a few KF fighters to you? Its just common knowledge. And is the reason why Kung Fu never fairs well in many fight tournaments because it isnt that effective. I think you have it back to front. It was the Chinese having trouble with western boxing because the movements werent robotic and les predictable. They had the same problem with Japanese fighters because their style was more combat oriented and less bogged down by tradition.
goulter1985 2 days ago
@goulter1985 you obviously never seen chinese MMA, also if you think kung fu is not effective you should try going a few rounds with a sanda fighter lol
AmericanAztec915 1 day ago
@gambleyourhealth In terms of combat those acrobatics are about as useless as aCapoeira fighter spinning on his hands. I just think theres alot of myth to it because they always go on about never fighting yet always make the claim to being the most well trained fighters. Like anything, if you only say, and not do...its nothing but talk. And thats all Ive ever seen from these "Shaolin". Big noting themselves and never proving it. Actions speak louder than words.
goulter1985 2 days ago
@goulter1985 "In terms of combat those acrobatics are about as useless as aCapoeira fighter spinning on his hands"
Was there a part of demonstration shaolin and combat shaolin that you didnt understand? They are two separate things. Do some research. Many western fighters had problems with wushu fighters, Huo Yuanjia instantly comes to mind and defeated all before him. But he was not the only one. Again, do some reading THEN comment.
gambleyourhealth 2 days ago
@gambleyourhealth Yes I know the difference between demonstration and combat. Thats why I said in terms of combat...pretty simple. Huo Yuanjia comes to mind because he was one of the few that actually could. If all those KF fighters had such an easy time with boxers Yuanjia would not be nearly as famous as he is, he is known for being one of the few that beat boxers, japanese fighters etc. The majority of KF fighters were losing during the time.
goulter1985 1 day ago
@goulter1985 "The majority of KF fighters were losing during the time"
This is incorrect. Chinese people were loosing at the time, not KF fighters.
KF was not nearly as prolifically taught in those days. It was reserved for specific families and their friends in closed door schools. (Different families of WuShu)
gambleyourhealth 1 day ago
@gambleyourhealth Having a different opinion btw doesnt mean someone is stupid or uninformed, its called an opinion for a reason. Follow your own words and do some research, this time do it in a dictionary and look up the word "opinion" though because apparently its a foreign term for you.
goulter1985 1 day ago
@goulter1985 Thats a common one I see. Whenever a Kung Fu fighter loses in any competition the KF fanatics come out "oh he isnt a REAL Kung Fu fighter hes just a wannabe". Maybe have some grace in defeat and admit a loss instead of making excuses.
goulter1985 1 day ago
@goulter1985 ""Whenever a Kung Fu fighter loses in any competition the KF fanatics come out "oh he isnt a REAL Kung Fu fighter hes just a wannabe"""
Is that right? I bet you cannot present an example of that either. ANY KF fighter in a tournament you can find will have trained 3 years AT MOST. . . . . ANY.
You couldnt present one before and you still cant now.
gambleyourhealth 1 day ago
@gambleyourhealth And yes KF fighters do enter tournaments, Huo Yuanjia did so himself numerous times. Is he a wannabe too? There is nothing wrong with competition, and alot of skill in combat comes from experience.KF has very little sparring, its very controlled, doesnt flow or free form.Thats why they notoriously lose in competition because they are not adjusted to the battering. There have been fights in Thailand resulting in the KF fighters all getting first round KO's, again,no conditioning
goulter1985 1 day ago
@goulter1985 "And yes KF fighters do enter tournaments, Huo Yuanjia did so himself numerous times"
You are COMPLETELY misunderstanding my meaning. HY was challenged constantly. They werent Tournaments, most of the time they were death matches. None of this rule bullshit.
"KF has very little sparring, its very controlled, doesnt flow or free form"
Says who? You? One of the styles I practice is WC. I freestyle this all the time. I spar it, and I use the MYJ freestyle all the time.
gambleyourhealth 1 day ago
@goulter1985 And regarding Shaolin.
Shaolin are forbidden to enter tournaments. The Martial Arts are a part of their religion and not used for mere competition or human entertainment. The martial Arts were used to defend themselves from ARMED warlords and their armies. Which they did quite well for HUNDREDS of years in many cases.
Here is a Non-Monk shaolin trained fighter.
/watch?v=wN89wVzj4W8
Kicking the shit out of an IKF champ (and navy seal)
gambleyourhealth 1 day ago
@goulter1985 CONTINUED
"And thats all Ive ever seen from these "Shaolin". Big noting themselves and never proving it"
Show me ONE video of Shaolin monks big noting themselves.
"And is the reason why Kung Fu never fairs well in many fight tournaments because it isnt that effective"
No, the reason why it doesnt do well in tournaments is because REAL KF fighters dont train for tournaments or enter tournaments. Its only KF wanna-be's that enter Tournaments.
gambleyourhealth 2 days ago
@goulter1985 CONTINUED
KF has its place. Like all forms of martial arts. None are the "beat all" style, least of all MMA. If you train for rules you will use rules instinctively. Jason Chambers, an MMA fighter from the "human weapon" series proved that MANY times over the duration of the series.
So, all arts, including KF's have their merits, they all have their downsides too.
Its the the artist, not the art
How good they are, how violent they are.
The art they use doesnt matter.
gambleyourhealth 2 days ago
gambleyourhealth 2 days ago
@gambleyourhealth Martial Arts evolve and get better like anything else. Kyokushin for example. One of the most recent forms of Karate, and generally the most effective. Alot of old school traditional Kung Fu fighters have done embarrassingly bad in Kyokushin tournaments because they are stuck in old mind sets and havnt advanced their style. All these Shaolin myths are the same. Breaking boards hitting rice bags with your head is good and well...but boards and rice arent human opponents.
goulter1985 2 days ago
all fake
gekiryudojo 1 week ago
UFC boxing?? don't you mean MMA figther... and kung fu ? be more specific kung fu has a lot of branches and styles this one is San Da ...
Xell4312 1 week ago
UFC boxing???? OMG the world is fucked up
llOoXxACExXoOllAS 1 week ago
i trane ufc boxing
andrewtregoning 1 week ago
ok how dose this make sense , "kung fu vs ufc , in boxing"?
Bmarely1 1 week ago
@Bmarely1 That's Jens Pulver???? wtf my bad I remember he's known for dirty boxing. My bad. Haven't seen him in a while that's why.
kickurassable 1 week ago
Since he is fighting a southpaw, he should circle left not right....
kickurassable 1 week ago
I have never seen that blonde haired fighter fight in the UFC. Trust I've been a fan of mma and boxing for ages and ages. I can't believe he listed himself as a former light weight UFC champion. What a liar. And they should really consider auditing what fighter put down on their applications when they apply for fights. Stupid fucking liar. I can't believe someone would lie like that. It's so disresepctful.
kickurassable 1 week ago
@kickurassable Dude that's Jens Pulver. He was is a former light weight UFC champion look him up lol.
cashcrate55 1 week ago
@kickurassable you don't have a clue !! pull your head out your ass and google jens pulver!! aka lil evil !!! maybe then you can show some respect !!!
brani123 1 week ago
@brani123 Oh shit that's Jens Pulver??? I know he's famous for dirty boxing, I haven't seen him in ages that's why sorry. Dayummm my bad bro.
kickurassable 1 week ago
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In situations like this fight, i hate the fact that people always want the 'Kung Fu guy' to win, typically because they want to see their fantasy martial arts films become a reality
iamagitatedchimp 1 week ago
In situations like this fight, i hate the fact that people always want the 'Kung Fu guy' to win, typically because they want to see their fantasy martial arts films become a reality
iamagitatedchimp 1 week ago
UFC boxing????? did you just make that up?
jackandjill45 1 week ago
what a big load of shit!
elpato402 1 week ago
In every one of these fights between a boxer and kung fu or karate or tai kwon do that I've ever seen the boxer wins. He's just using punches while the other guy is allowed to kick and punch yet the boxer still wins. This tells me that the Asian martial arts aren't all that they're cracked up to be.
JackKangaroo1 1 week ago
@JackKangaroo1 so how many boxing vs eastern asian martial arts fights have you seen? i can show you a few videos where asian martial artists beat the shit out of boxers, i train in both
AmericanAztec915 1 day ago
.....this is a kickboxer vs another kickboxer. UFC is MMA and cannot be performed with boxing gloves on and neither can kung fu (street fighting)
TheBrradsullivan 1 week ago
this is not kung fu, its not boxing and has nothing to do with the "UFC". the only part of the title that is accurate is the "VS" part
Gckirbydtx 1 week ago
i think a shaolin monk would beat a ufc fighter easily because of the fluidity of their movements, just like bruce lee once said be water my friend.
SuperAspergersMan 1 week ago
@SuperAspergersMan That's because you are an idiot.
bonerdust 1 week ago
sanda*
MechPhantom 1 week ago
thats sanda , chinese shaolin kung fu style of kickboxing assholes. Go to china fcuks and u will know. Shaolin monks use sand to fight
MechPhantom 1 week ago
Jens Pulver is the Boxers name.
IsolationInstigation 1 week ago
100% BOX TAILANDES :P
MaurielBS 2 weeks ago
The Thai boxer kicked like a monster, im surprised he didn't knock the UFC guy down.
AtomicToyRobot 2 weeks ago
UFC is the only legitimate competition. All this boxing, karate and kickboxing is to limited
PhysicsVsFraud 2 weeks ago
@PhysicsVsFraud pride is better in my opinion, the UFC puts too much limit on jiu jitsu. i think pride shows the better mixed martial artist because you would actually have the time you need to submit somebody. although the old days of ufc was definitely the best
010010ryan 2 weeks ago
@PhysicsVsFraud UFC? I think you mean MMA. UFC is one promotion company, MMA is the sport. And I wouldn't say that. MMA might allow more techniques than any other combat sport, but it's not the only legitimate competition. MMA is still growing, and young. Boxing, Kickboxing, Thai Boxing and so on have plenty of legitimate competitors, I think MMA's talent pool is still relatively shallow. We have yet to really see enough true mixed martial artists like GSP, A. Silva, Aldo etc.
IsolationInstigation 1 week ago
He "WAAAH'd!" when he should of "WAATAA'd!"
DeGenerationX 2 weeks ago
It's san da...
MisterBlueLeaf 2 weeks ago
are they even in the same weight class.
HDsharp 2 weeks ago
America will hand your arse to you.
GokuGreg2001 2 weeks ago
@Mwwahaha It's not muay Thai smartass, the guy is a sanda practitioner.
kg35tt 2 weeks ago
haha that will learn ya for incorrectly titling your video!
MrCkato 2 weeks ago
wtf is UFC Boxing?
AmericanAztec915 2 weeks ago
@AmericanAztec915 The fighter is Jens Pullver. He was a ufc champ. that's why it says ufc
Tippet76 2 weeks ago
he is not muay thai or kickboxing, he is a sanda practitioner
whatever6724 2 weeks ago
@whatever6724 I think to.
yyekcim 2 weeks ago
dude your Kung fu sux
TheLurtzzzz 2 weeks ago
beat that chink!
saigondj 2 weeks ago
Jens Pulver... holy shit. Anyway, he's not a "UFC" boxer so much as he is an actual boxer who just happens to have held a UFC championship belt at one point. He was also considered for years to be the best lightweight in the world.
strokerman01 2 weeks ago
They're both kickboxing. What a dumb, misleading title. I will flag this video and ask that the title be changed or the video removed. Then the Chinese government will come and shoot the uploader.
johnblaster 2 weeks ago
muay thai should have won it. fucking punk guy got no respect for the fight culture.
MrWizzors 2 weeks ago
Kung Fu my ass!! Dum shit!!
gagaXboy 2 weeks ago
I see no Kung Fu here...
SwayNV 2 weeks ago
Not Kung Fu dumb ass! It's Thai kickboxing!
Mwwahaha 2 weeks ago 13
@Mwwahaha si que es Kung Fu, es Sanda!
MrXXXSharKXXX 2 weeks ago
@Mwwahaha dude, that is San Da, you better google it. You should learn more about chinese kunfu
ljeckosunny 2 weeks ago 24
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@ljeckosunny its still kung fu. everything is kung fu, the word kung fu does not mean martial arts. it means leisure time i think you should take you own advice
superpigforlife 1 week ago
@ljeckosunny worldsandaleague(dot)com Chinese kick-boxing not kung fu....
shadowninja569 1 week ago
@Mwwahaha its sanshou aka full contact kung fu, Dumbass
AmericanAztec915 2 weeks ago
@Mwwahaha Actually he is a Sanshou fighter, which is a modern form of Kung Fu (what we may call in the west 'Chinese Kickboxing). I spent a year in China doing both traditional kung fu and Sanshou, and this is very characteristic of it.
lionhearte22 2 weeks ago
@Mwwahaha human weapon on kung fu watch
sucksatcod 1 week ago
@Mwwahaha seen sidekicks in MT? GL with that ;)
prawyalt 6 days ago
@Mwwahaha That IS Kung-Fu. It's called Wushu Sanshou or Sanda, DUMB-ASS. You probably only learned about Thai Boxing because of "UFC". Well guess what, mainstream boy bandwagon jumper, there are MORE striking arts that may look like Thai Boxing but are NOT Thai Boxing. This Kung-Fu style incorporates throws. Thai Boxers do NOT throw. Get it right, kid-o. Stop basing your martial arts "knowledge" on UFC. The world is bigger than that.
joaom8212 5 days ago 9
@joaom8212 Lol thai boxers DO throw. I would know.
eavetlog 1 day ago
@joaom8212
san shou is what cung le, in MMA uses.
impactglory 33 minutes ago
@Mwwahaha Not Thai Kickboxing DUMBASS. its sanshou/Sanda. (kung fu) retard. dont post when you dont know what your talking about. mmkthx
SuperMadklown 2 days ago
MMA > Any Specialist
Even Bruce Lee said it himself, that anyone with 1 year of boxing and 1 year of wrestling can defeat any Martial Arts Specialist. The Myriad of MMA shows (UFC, PRIDE/FC, StrikeForce, Vale Tudo, wtvr) have proven it too.
MrVhorthex 2 weeks ago
this isnt kung fu its muay thai
Mr101kingegypt 2 weeks ago
MMA Novice vs Kung Fu Novice?....What the fuck am I watching exactly.
LeVaughnX 2 weeks ago
@LeVaughnX Jens is no novice; he has been fighting professionally since about '98 and is a former lightweight champion but has had a rough last couple years.
To call him a novice is just....dumb.
iambean 2 weeks ago
what pixel is the one that trains ufc?
soundman420 2 weeks ago
Jens pulver vs some san shu guy kickboxing. I went pretty much as I thought it would.
vasya111 2 weeks ago
Damn.. was hoping for Chinese guy to win.
EternityMan1337 2 weeks ago
I am a KFC fan myself
pfg333 2 weeks ago
Not seeing any Kung Fu here, just because a fighter is Chinese doesn't mean that his style is always Kung Fu. Might wanna change the title.
Jorgegzrocknroll 3 weeks ago
What a ridiculous title.....UFC boxing??? IDIOT!!!
passdagard 3 weeks ago
jens pulver??????????i know
cartman301282 3 weeks ago
Dumb... It is just a striking match, not MMA, UFC is a company dummy, MMA is the discipline, that combines pretty much any type of martial arts... hence MIXED MARTIAL ARTS... the winner will always be the one who decides where the fight will take place, and at the end it is all about who can impose his will.
danielmonterroso 3 weeks ago
What the hell is "UFC Boxing"????
Thydeepestfear 3 weeks ago
I could stop both of them with about a pound and a half of trigger pull.
johncooner 3 weeks ago
These San Da guys out of China are legitimate, I respect them a lot win or lose. At least they are fighting, not claiming to be "against violence" or "too deadly" or whatever the latest excuse is.
50pushups 3 weeks ago
Specialized techniques will never be superior to composite styles. Yeah Jens basically boxed his way through it. The key, however is that mma teaches points from many styles. Jens knew more about what to expect than his opponent. Those kicks, while skilled, were pointless.... once Jens adapted in order to strike his opponent, the Kung Fu guy really was out-classed. training in and against one combat method, be it Kung Fu or boxing, leaves you weak. Jens adapted, like water moving around a stone.
BatBreakr 3 weeks ago
did u guys catch that sorry ass superman punch attempt? This fights is worse than a grade school scrap. with girls...
vloc0 3 weeks ago
@kikme420
What you say is correct, a straight blast if you have your elbows tucked in is powerful. A big right cross in boxing is nearly always a fight ender. My point is that in a fight you want to land as many powerful punches/strikes as you can on your opponent to end their ability to harm you and/or win the fight. Throwing too many fast weak punches while in your opponents striking range only serves to open your defences.
Golledgem 3 weeks ago
There is all of this dispute between Jiu Jitsu vs. whatever. In cage fighting Jiu Jitsu is the best hands down. But Kung Fu, Karate, Aikido etc... all had their place in history. Jiu Jitsu is willing to except damage to achieve the dominant position, but this is no longer valid when said attacker has a knife or a metal bar. Now art forms that addressed weapon techniques are valid again. If you want to be a fighter learn Jiu Jitsu. If you want to be a warrior then learn them all.
warriorlinguist 3 weeks ago
@warriorlinguist Totally agree with you.
stokesbay 3 weeks ago
@warriorlinguist Are you talking about Bjj or just Jiu Jitsu
passdagard 2 weeks ago
wow kung fu ... all he do is kick and run the fk
lengjacinto 3 weeks ago
haha all the asian fella can do i kick and run away lol
lukey022 3 weeks ago
@lukey022 But you copy his fighting style because you never beat him with shite boxing...
cranyonrye 3 weeks ago
@Orthodoxynjay because shaolin is really dumb
irkiIIer 3 weeks ago
holland 16 miljion inhabitans and WE DOMINATE K-1... the U.S.A. over 500 m inhabitans, where the fuck are they !!!!!???
TheGenX1979 3 weeks ago
OMG ufc is not boxing. UFC is MMA which means MIXED martial arts. Its is everything combined. it is up to the fighter to decide which moves he uses
weq7 3 weeks ago
@weq7 Ufc is a company....
dephantom1 3 weeks ago 36
@dephantom1 A voice of reason! I mean, WTF.. "UFC" boxing...
MrVhorthex 2 weeks ago
For all his kicking he couldn't take a punch and really had no defense for punches. You bring shame to kung fu. You gotta learn the basics, and punching is super basic.
ComicBookGo 3 weeks ago
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tceBansai 3 weeks ago
This guy is balrog :O
MetalLee00 3 weeks ago
Kung Fu is complete shit and the asian guy in this fight is quite decent so obviously hes not a kung fu fighter. Looks more like an kick boxer fighter to me. They both do.
Decent fight.
SkemeKOS 3 weeks ago
@SkemeKOS he is a sanda fighte witch is kung fu just full contact
AmericanAztec915 2 weeks ago
great..so every chinese knows kung fu and all americans ONLY learn mma/ufc boxing. What century are u guys living in?
MrOldestPerson 4 weeks ago 19
@MrOldestPerson totaly agree but in all fairness that is jens pulver
MaxRampage5150 3 weeks ago
@MrOldestPerson not true im american and i am learning MMA, kung fu, and Karate... yes incase your dont know Kung Fu is diff from Karate..
vipersrock123 3 weeks ago
@MrOldestPerson you mean what dimension are they living in -__- fools
Kiznae 2 weeks ago
@MrOldestPerson Please don't perpetuate the poster's convoluted terminology. 'UFC" boxing? MMA stands for "Mixed Martial Arts"... So it includes various styles such as Muay Thai, Kung Fu, Karate, Greco-Roman Wrestling, BJJ, etc...
MrVhorthex 2 weeks ago
thumps up if you think kung fu and chi n some other wired moves are fake....
kasssaid 4 weeks ago
Thats former UFC champion Jens Pulver vs Dai Chang Liang, a Choy Li Fut master.
pakifighter 4 weeks ago
hey that's Jens Pulver
boxsubmaster 4 weeks ago
Ip man battle was best
HolyRamenStrings 4 weeks ago
it's sanda an that is some kind of brutal kung fu
KICKBOXERTHAIBOXER 4 weeks ago
@KICKBOXERTHAIBOXER Kung Fu is about as brutal as tai chi....and equally effective in a fight.
LordShandor 4 weeks ago
neither one of these guys would last 5 seconds in the ring with Von Helton(look him up on youtube), he is a master of 15 different forms of hand to hand combat, and would snap both these guys necks, that simple
SyrinxPriestOf 1 month ago
wtf is ufc boxing
Momentimum 1 month ago
AHAHAHA 0:28 TAI CHONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
sasukerocks51 1 month ago
The problem is that if you hypothetically throw 9 punches a second, to throw that many you'll need to pull your fist back on contact (which is essentially pulling a punch and delivers no power). To deliver power in a punch you need to take advantage of rotational torque. Kung-fu arm punches dont deliver this. Bruce Lee's JKD addressed this perfectly as he reduced it back to a combat art and removed all this flowery "look I'm a praying mantis" bs.
Golledgem 1 month ago 14
@Golledgem You confuse combat martial arts with ceremonial martial arts. Bruce lee practiced both. The ceremonial martial arts are supposed to look like a dance because essentially they are. The techniques could be used in combat I suppose, but not stringed together so fluidly as you would most likely lose sight of your opponent in the midst of a flashy flip. They're traditional styles usually associated with a Legend of some kind.
xXEnkilXx 3 weeks ago
@xXEnkilXx Bruce Lee for all his skill wasn't really a fighter, you can't be a fighter if you don't fight. he had some fights when he was young and the only fights he had in the US were behind closed doors - he couldnt risk losing in public. training isnt fighting.
MattG3128 3 weeks ago
@MattG3128 Actually, Bruce won the world martial arts competition 3 times. He was a very skilled fighter.
xXEnkilXx 3 weeks ago
@xXEnkilXx first time i heard that, give me a link so i can see? i agree he was skilled for sure.
MattG3128 3 weeks ago
@MattG3128 Yea and fighting in a ring isnt fighting. real fighting has no rules. So if he did have more street encounters its as real as it gets. Not some stupid point system crap.
VBH8888 3 weeks ago
@Golledgem Good point!
RONBONIX 3 weeks ago
@Golledgem lol 9 punches a second is better then 1 every 1 and half seconds plus the fact that punch is deflected off to the side because it has the body behind it the kung fu fighter is able to get inside and deliver another 9 punches to the face or if they are well trained go for the throat and nerves such as the jugular and also are able to use pretty much any type of offensive move
TheSlice9999 3 weeks ago
@Golledgem Your not 100% correct. If I throw a punch like a boxer then yes. But If i throw a straight punch from my center and my body is behind my elbows then I have my weight behind each punch. There for I do not need that rotational torque to maintain power. Hence the ving tsun straight punch. Only problem is, this limits the angles I can attack from. A straight blast is nasty if its done correctly and at the right time.
kikme420 3 weeks ago