honestly iv only digitally mastered(been doing it for about a 1.5 and im 16 years old) iv spent hour's and hour's even a week at a time on projects and even in the digital realm i think less in the chain sounds better then any thing. i used maybe 4 vst's in my chain for mastering(sometimes ill use 5 to bring out a few things im wanting to hear) but over all it seems less is more in mastering to me.(btw dont hate on me for digital mastering im 16 years old)
Didn't Mr. Bernie Grundman state at a conference that the loudness wars had actually started as far back as 40+ years? Something about improved cartridges for phono record players were introduced and artists wanted more loudness as a result, something like that.
Seems like you have to be very skillful in artists/technician relationships which is part of being a professional, creating that balance.
This was very, very interesting, informative. Thanks very much!
@wendileona I would bet you're right he did, and that they had, but there was a focus on fidelity being the ultimate goal back in those days and less of a " I will have greater force " sort of competition. No matter the semantics we could argue though, there isn't truly a marker that will be able to be proved. We can tell you when (in our experience) there began more of a ground swell of change. But there are some interesting newer records that have opted for a notch down,but insignificant.
@thegrimyeaper thats interesting they said that, because I remember back when that new sound came in the mid-late 80's and I did not like it because it was so loud compared to everything, lol.
Bernie sometimes looks like he gets irritated by his own son's comments.
thebeatinventor 1 month ago
honestly iv only digitally mastered(been doing it for about a 1.5 and im 16 years old) iv spent hour's and hour's even a week at a time on projects and even in the digital realm i think less in the chain sounds better then any thing. i used maybe 4 vst's in my chain for mastering(sometimes ill use 5 to bring out a few things im wanting to hear) but over all it seems less is more in mastering to me.(btw dont hate on me for digital mastering im 16 years old)
vampreen12356 7 months ago
Didn't Mr. Bernie Grundman state at a conference that the loudness wars had actually started as far back as 40+ years? Something about improved cartridges for phono record players were introduced and artists wanted more loudness as a result, something like that.
Seems like you have to be very skillful in artists/technician relationships which is part of being a professional, creating that balance.
This was very, very interesting, informative. Thanks very much!
wendileona 1 year ago
@wendileona I would bet you're right he did, and that they had, but there was a focus on fidelity being the ultimate goal back in those days and less of a " I will have greater force " sort of competition. No matter the semantics we could argue though, there isn't truly a marker that will be able to be proved. We can tell you when (in our experience) there began more of a ground swell of change. But there are some interesting newer records that have opted for a notch down,but insignificant.
pgshows 9 months ago
Rhythm Nation is one of my all time favorite albums. Sucks to hear it started the loudness war.
thegrimyeaper 1 year ago
@thegrimyeaper thats interesting they said that, because I remember back when that new sound came in the mid-late 80's and I did not like it because it was so loud compared to everything, lol.
jgk381 6 months ago
Bernie makes a lot of sense - Good mastering is about good judgement as much as good equipment
slovokia 1 year ago
why is the intro and outro sound THAT LOUD??? -.-
WirSindRocker 1 year ago 10