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  • honestly these places and other programs for minors disgust me shows me how little rights i really do have i hope one day all of them are made illegal and dont say that i needed this treatment because i didnt anybody in my shoes would know that and i can say shit is worse after these programs in my life than before

  • i went to this place the staff there told me the brat camp kids were paid actors this place sucked lots of brainwashing and it was pure hell like a boot camp didnt help anyone and failure rate afterwards was huge im so happy it got shut down after two months of this shit hiking 10-15 miles a day in all weather imaginable with an 80 pound backpack shitty shelter food that was the same every other day and no toilets or showers for two months i was sent to a therapeutic boarding school for 16more

  • DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND THE EPISODES FROM THIS SHOW?!?!????

  • How did they brainwash them because as far as I'm concerned no sage walk gonna stop my ass

  • This is television at it's finest. Actors and actresses with fictitious stories trying to promote Sagewalk ... I went to Sagewalk and "graduated" 3 days before they started filming brat camp. Let me tell you, the whole Brat Camp program was nothing like the real thing. In reality, Sagewalk was a very abusive program and the program was finally shutdown last year, but unfortunately it was at the expensive of a life. RIP Sergy... Shame on ABC for misleading the public.

  • 2:49- it has been proven that it is not possible to be addicted to weed. that sagewalk sounds like a brain-washing camp.

  • You know, my indian drum teacher's son was very out of control. He always fought with his mom, yelled, all that stuff. They did not send him to all this friendly sagewalk centers, no no no. They sent him to the US army boot camp.He was better after that. :)

  • that third mom should be arrested for having a kid at her age knowing that it's almost certain that in that age, when she gives birth kid will have some mental disorder....

  • @Kriziak992 That mom is probably in her mid 50's so if her kid is 14 she probably had him when she was about 40. Yes having a child at over 40 can increase the chances of birth defects, but honestly if she got pregnant what was she supposed to do? Unless you are advocating that she should have terminated the pregnancy she had no choice, but to have the child.

  • @Kriziak992 Who told you that garbage? True, the incidence of Down's Syndorome is a little higher for an older parent but it's far from "almost certain"

  • I can't say that I know enough about this camp to say if it works, but I do know that when kids are that out of control, they *do* need to be taken away from their families so that everyone has time to work on their stuff. The family atmosphere is usually a trigger for the old stuff to start again, and they have to be away from each other to learn new ways.

  • @tatoupa yes i know derek hes great now i graduated with him

  • @tatouhep yes i know derek i went to school with him and were pretty good friends. hes an awesome kiddd:)

  • Basicly the methords used are the same that CLUTS use to brain wash people. This will have a long term effect on them and to go cold turkey "as it were" will back fire. There need to do drugs or whatever there addiction is will bulid up unknowingly and they will EXPLODE at some point and it will cause more problems than they had at the start

  • sage walk can only work if you want it to... i was sent to sage walk in 2009 and had to spend my 16th b-day out there... when i went there i also weighed 85 pounds with a 50 lb plus backpack and hiked 150 miles in 50 days... oh and we only hiked on the weekend sometimes once or twice through out the week... so "pookatube" can shut the fuck up... oh and im the only person from iowa to be sent there lol i find that kinda cool

  • A simple solution to these parents: Beat your kids, thats what my parents did when I fuck up

  • About the brothers there is a problem...they are brothers they are supposed to fight, me and my brother fight often a few times physically, but thats because it's two teenage boys fighting for dominance, it's a hierarchy in families, the dominant male gets the peak of the mountain.

  • These kids are probably terrified their parents will send them back if they misbehave again. Not what I would call a success story. These parents should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. They are COWARDS. These camps are inhumane.

  • @Tracy3686 sagewalk is currently shut down because a young man died from overexaustion on his first day... and i found out that if you send your child to sagewalk you can send him back for free for the next year that your child returns... glad that place is gone

  • Does anyone know anything about derek?? he was my favourite

  • Sagewalk is a Fraud...These kids should go to a MILITARY BOOT CAMP!!!

  • 1 kid went to sagewalk and had no change result's :P

  • God, who the hell does this to their kids? Their kids are going to be abused, and some die in those places. And it's not like abducting them from their homes is going to HELP them with any psychological issues they may have. Some of these poor kids who survive end up with depression, or even PTSD. Any parent who sends their kids to a brainwashing hellhole like this ought to die and go to hell. If you're a parent who sent your kids to one of these places, you better start worrying for your souls.

  • I AM THE 1 DISLIKE

  • they programed these kids, like that movie "bad behavior", am i right??

  • I agree these young people were poorly behaved. But they're not just fucking around to be bad. They have serious problems. They were abused, abandoned by their parents, and a couple of them have a learning disability. I'm not saying what they did was ok. I just know where they're coming from.

    I do have to say though, I could definitely understand why Nick was so hurt. I have a friend with dyslexia and she struggles too. I also know what it's like to get teased relentlessly. :(

  • wilderness therapy is a joke i went to second nature cascades for 10 weeks this past winter/spring. now i am in a boarding school. the first thing im gonna do when i get home is smoke some weed and get hammered. a kid at my boarding school went to sage walk which got closed because they over worked a kid and he died. DONT SEND YOUR KIDS TO THIS SHIT ITS A WASTE OF MONEY

  • I was in a residential (not wilderness) program and a couple of my "house brothers" came from Sagewalk.

    According to them, this show completely misrepresented the school. From their accounts, the groups at the end of each night were MUCH longer and more frequent on the show even with the cuts/editing than in reality. There was much more talking allowed.

    Then there are horror stories, like one guy who said he broke his arm and was ignored for hours by staff who claimed he was faking.

  • omg the boarding school heather went to.. i went to, too. holy shit man.

  • 911 fire police Ambulance

  • Anyone know where I can find the other episodes from the season? I can't find them anywhere...

  • ah yes the infamous 'sagewalk' we crush your soul so you are now morally slaved to the globalist no flame no self-thought just suburban hell locked into a paradigm of illusion and in great debt better pay off your mortgage soon 9-5 job for 50 years

  • OR can someone tell me the name of the user account of those episodes?

  • YOUTUBE DELETED BRAT CAMP S2E1-4. can someone upload it again.

  • these fuckers go to go home afterwards? Man I'm at fucking therapeutic boarding school, I didn't go to sagewalk though, went to SUWS

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  • awe i felt so bad for derek cause he was just a little kid and frank would pick on him

  • I was called lone singing starfish! I was famous for running away from the program

  • Brat camp :)

  • How's winding up dead or in prison for basic human rights? Spare the rod...

  • Want to punish your kid, but don't feel like dealing with legal jargon like "rights of the accused" and "the Constitution?" Just hire a private mercenary company to kidnap your child and take them into the frozen wilderness until they finally learn to obey authority like good little citizens! It's that easy!

    Bastards. This isn't about whether the kids got over their drug problems. It's about violating their basic human rights.

  • @NYanarchy08 as long as they are under 18 and they have the parents permission, they can do that. and what are they being "accused" of? if anything this is a sentence, not a trial.

  • @mastercheef12345 Yes, I am well aware that they can get away with this if the kids are under 18 and they have the parents' permission. That doesn't make it right!

  • @NYanarchy08 you're exactly right. I feel so sorry for those kids. I've never been to one of these places, but often wonder if it's possible to escape, not get caught, and become emancipated.

  • I have ADD too. so i can kinda relate to derek

  • aww i felt so bad for derek. he was just a little kid... he's cute.

  • Derek has really great ahnd writing.

    I liked all the kids except for Jada she should have stayed longar then she did. Hope she goes to juvie so she learns a leason.

  • I taped this whole season, but I can't upload b/c I can't convert it from VHS. Isaiah ended up getting arrested 6 wks after Sagewalk for spray paining racial slurs on a neighbor's shed.

    Jada's dad said "It was a complete failure. She refused to go to boarding school and was later the driver in a boat accident where someone suffered minor injuries, when asked about her experience at Sagewalk she said "She's totally changed"

  • they deserve this sagewalk shit

  • @CilliaClaraford NOBODY deserves this shit. How dare you. These kids walk out with more problems than they began with, many have nightmares and flashbacks. I wouldn't wish that kind of hell on my worst enemies.

  • where did you get this clip from?

    could you sent me the link!

  • The show was dangerous. Parents was made to believe that such programs worked and that they were safe.

    A 16 year old boy died at Sagewalk august 2009 and now the program has suspended its operations ordered by the Sheriff.

    The viewers was manipulated and now people are dead!

  • fuck off

  • i went to sagewalk after it was a brat camp and is now just a wilderness program in december of 09 and i loved it and im still alive

  • @TakjamRosen You're right. I'll bet the parents hate themselves forever. Even the smartest of people can be brainwashed.

  • i went there

  • Whatever happened to the actual show?

  • hey what year did this come out?

  • i think it came out 2005

  • thanks a lot for putting this up.

    i've been so curious about these guys.

    do you know what happened to Jada & Lexy tho? why weren't they on here? i have a rough idea why Jada's not on here lol

  • well , when i used to watch the show , in the last episode that lexy got back to same girl she was b4 camp , as 4 lexy she doin fine , but y they werent mentioned of this video :s !!!!!!

  • Lexy was cool, I liked her a lot

    I heard Jada crashed her parents boat into another boat or something like that. that little girl was a problem child, if I ever aw one. lol

  • but i also heard that asiah got arrested after the show , i think he was drunk and vandelized his teacher's house

  • lol Isaiah looks like Zack from The School Of Rock.

  • i didnt watch this movie , is it the one where jack black acts in it ? , lol , i heard it was a good movie , but im too lazy to watch it xD

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  • lol , u got me exited 2 watch da movie , ur awesome man :P , i checked ur profile , creeped me out a little cuz u seem like a horror fan , im so not , i have a weak heart xD

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  • @BrutalAsHell haha i thought the same thing. good to know i wasnt the only one

  • @fashiondesigner552 dont be such a nigger

  • ha ohh boy. i was in sagewalk this summer for 69 days. its hell. and it didnt really help me to much , ya i make a few better decisions than before. but im still the same "party" type of person.!

    these ppl are lying , u can tell.

    sagewalk does NOT change a person that much. period. no questions about it!

    and think about i , sagewlk affects your child in the long run , its depressing,

    how would u like being shipped away to a desert by your parents cuz they think ur a fuck up ? its not fun!!

  • @x0x0rachellynn I'm so sorry, sweetie. If you want, send me a message, and I can give you the name of a couple of websites where you can submit your story. It's up to you though.

  • @x0x0rachellynn So stop being a fuck up.

  • I was sent to sagewalk in 1999 and it did change me for the better. I was one of thier longer staying campers at 116 days. I would probably be dead now If I hadden't been sent. There are two types of people who graduate from Sagewalk those who fake thier way through and remain the same decietfull fucked up people they were and those who make a real attempt to better themselves. Sagewalk is NOT 1 of those crazy boot camps you see on 20/20 all about the money, it's about the kids. I'm glad I went.

  • @TANKgodsAREangry

    By that logic, it all depends on the individual and has nothing to do with the camp or sagewalk. Aside from that, who really needs the reform here? The parents who failed to raise these kids properly or the kids who got sent to a completely worthless camp?

  • @romeosevendelta The same could be said for the entire justice system, or any drug rehab program. Or anything we do in in life "depends on the individual". It doesn't sound as if you have gone to a camp like this. So I don't really see why you are calling my first hand experience and opinions into question. I can tell you right now my problems were my own, and I was beyond parental control. I wasn't talking about "A completly worlthless camp", I was talking about Sagewalk. Which worked for me.

  • @TANKgodsAREangry How well do you think it worked for the kid that got killed?

  • @Shanbo26 New owners and different program.

  • @Shanbo26 I'm sorry he couldn't go to the program as I knew it.

  • @TANKgodsAREangry That comment was over 2 years old

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  • @Traxxasred and can you blame them? Those places are hell. I'd be putting on a front, and plotting my escape.

  • those kids are just puttin on a act that shit doesnt help just like that after sagewalk u kno they didnt all of a sudden start being good i been to one of these programs n it doesnt work like that sagewalk spoil there kids they got all kinds of shit that u didnt get in catherin freer

  • Where can i find all the episodes!?

  • yea it doesnt always work like that though.

  • These programs are pretty awful, the long term effectiveness is still undetermined, and many students are known to resort to worse behaviours than before. Treatment programs like this may cause more issues than they actually resolve. They are VERY good at manipulating parents and obscurring the communication between them and there child.

    Avoid options like this if possible. Remember that YOU have the power to raise your child.

  • u r so right , i just loved this program cause i so wanted to know these teenagers problems , and i predected that they will get worse after the camp , and some of them did , i just like seeing their diffrent personalities and how they fit together , and what tricks they can pull to escape xD , im a teenager too , and im just as sneaky as them but i dont have the guts :P

  • @TheInnocentLeviathan you have the right idea, and I feel so sorry for the kids who were put through this nightmare.

  • there was one girl they did not show. i cant remember her name but i watched all the episodes. she had curly hair. i wonder why they didnt show her. she must be messin up. does anyone remember the name

  • JADA

  • i remember the first episode of brat camp when jada took a shit in the field

  • omg thank u sooooooo much 4 puttin this up!! i was looking EVERYWHERE 4 it!

    where'd u find this???? do u have any more vids of this show? (sorry i know i'm asking a lot of questions lol.)

  • lol , its ok , i will try to look for all the episodes , if i found them i will post all of them here , btw i really really love this show too :D

  • this show was cool because each of them had a problem and changed after they found themselves

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