This stuff is all faked. When every mall in America is selling autographed stuff... what do you think ? That celebs just sign stuff all day? Of course it's all faked !! Do the math - I would say there are 2x as many 'authentic' autograph stores as there are 'apple' stores. That means there would be at least 600 in malls across America. They all seem to have the same merchandise. How is that even possible !!Unless you are buying for some Old fart in NY or LA - you are being ripped off!!!
@MOPARGEORGE no because on the original it said "93/99" and on the fake it said "93/99" and since there was only ONE "93/99" card ever printed the other one is fake. So yes, he knows what he is talking about
Excellent research!! Thanks for sharing with the community...crazy that the scammers are starting to get their 'artwork' graded. Its too bad that the card manufacturers don't have a scanned directory of all of their products that BGS can bump against!!
OMG, you idiot!!! NOT ALL PATCHES ARE GOING TO LOOK ALIKE......THEY ARE CUT FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE JERSEYS....THEY INCLUDE, LETTERS, NUMBERS, PATCHES, STITCHING.....ANY PART OF THE JERSEY IS USED.... DO YOUR RESEARCH AND BACK UP YOUR ACCUSATIONS FOR ONCE.....YOU CLAIM TO DO ALL THIS "RESEARCH"....WELL, HOW ABOUT RESEARCHING SOME FACTS, AND NOT JUST YOUR "OPINION".....WOW!!!
@leeway123 maybe watch a video before you post a stupid comment, no opinions here, do drugs much? hearing problem maybe? i show a proven scammer and PROOF that the cards have been altered. too bad you no speak'n no english, you might learn something for a change... talking about an idiot, look in mirror lately?
wow. Wuzz up with people consider english as a main proper language. This is the internet you fucking retard. It is called World Wide Web Stupid. Not just american you stupid fuck. jesus.......
@leeway123 lol hard to chop up a logo...Joe you really are witless and the people who follow you are more than likely just as intelligent ;) **ryder** should consider your remarks,being distributed via youtube,as harassing,defamatory and slam you with a libel suit :) Moronic logic you apply buddy :)
@caracarn2006 another idiot who comments without watching the video, i show the same card that is altered before and after the fact, i have made a few videos SHOWING PROOF that ryder is a scammer, for your info a few scammers have tried suing and it always gets thrown out before trial, and twice the scammer had to pay my attorney fees, ALSO... IT IS NOT LIBELOUS IF I SHOW PROOF MORON!!!!!!!!!!!
I've watched a couple of your videos and I have to laugh. ALL of your accusations are followed with " probably" and "maybe"...Everything you're saying is simply your opinion. You have absolutely NOTHING to back up anything you're saying. You make many references about the specifics of these cards, yet you show no creditials that backs up your "opinions". You make these accusations without ever touching these cards, you do this by the picture on the internet. I'd sue you in a heartbeat!
Hey gr8 work , I know one thing I will be checking out more of your videos for sure......I can not believe that Ebay is able to allow this type of thing to occur, there should be proven paperwork from the sportcard dealers of where the card was bought, when and of course......where and proof of purchase before anything is allowed to be even put on Ebay or some kind of membership other then a credit card number.Some kid buys a card and finds out 15 yrs later it's a fake, WHAT A SHAME!!!
thx for explaining this to be people i am a seller in this buisness and know bfor sure a few people who do this i have never ever ever brought or even picked up any cards from them if they ever do a show every card is a logo or a red ink autographed topps rookie premeir auto people get the picture after a while but its ashame this once fun hobbys now a shithole because of people like this theya re losers and trash there is really no word to describe them but i belive in karma theyl get ther day
@dloegsw i have been doing this for a while now, i'm involved with the community, websites and forums, i work with other people,etc... certain players and certain types of cards are targeted by the scammers, so we copy the pictures of the cards, say crabtree is your favorite player, you go to ebay to see whats for sale, you find a few plain jersey cards that would be sweet if they had a cool patch, so you copy the cards with item number, then wait for a scammer to buy one, send me a pm for more
@wittenbergian i work with a few people, we each have a favorite player or 2, we just copy pictures of cards that are often altered, we put the ebay number in the image i.d., we keep a record of the original card, then wait for it to show up altered, then we make the PSA
@jsaredwings that scammer had his account closed by ebay! he got a bunch of complaints, complaints do work, unfortunately, ebay needs a bunch of them before they close a scammers account, if you watch a few of my PSA's i sometimes report when a big scammer gets his account closed
I would like to see U.D post pics of all their memorabilia cards on line. It may be easy it may not be. Perhaps if it wasn't that easy because they make too many they will stop pumping out so much junk.
@TiazaLynn maybe not all the memorabilia, like the regular jersey cards, but there needs to be an archive of ALL their high end patches, logo cards, etc... that would be a plus,... you are not alone, next time you talk to UD let them know what you think, did you see my 'upper deck PSA' ? i gave them a little shout out, just do a search on youtube, also, thanks for watching and commenting
@JOEMLM I'm not arguing with you Joe but I think Upper Deck should be totally in the dark about the value of their cards. In their opinion a Crosby auto patch and a Hemsky auto patch should be considered equally as valuable. It is total B.S how Upper Deck and Beckett share the same bed. I know their are tons of problems and I tried to keep this as short I could but I.T.G cards are starting to appeal to me more and more.
@ball1nbynature the counterfeit cards are made by a professional printing machine and the fake patches are replaced by hand using some special tools usually from what i am told
by the way, i would have a hard time saying they "save" all the good patches for the low numbered cards lol. i have pulled several sp authentic GOLD patches as well that were #'d to 25 that were 1 color. once again man i appreciate you nailing these fraudulent sellers, however your facts are not correct. i have PULLED plenty of logo patch auto's that are numbered to 999. and this didn't just start in 2009 either. i opened 6 cases of the 2008's and had several in those. keep up the good work tho
this is absolutely INCORRECT. i like your vid and people need to be aware that this goes on......however this is completely UNTRUE if they are numbered above 300 they are fake. the information you are providing is valuable, but do not pull numbers out of your ass and tell people that all patches numbered to 300 or more are fake! i have logo patches of BOTH joe flacco and chris johnson from 2008 sp authentic. both were pulled DIRECTLY from packs. so take a step back and just talk about facts.
I think you are incorrect on some of your statements. Some of these are scams but I redeemed a 2009 SPA Desean Jackson RC Patch auto and recieved a part of the eagles logo directly for Upper Deck. Just because there are 499 doesnt mean some of them cant be part of the logo.
in 2009 they ARE adding patches, etc to high numbered cards, THEY GOT THE IDEA FROM THE SCAMMERS! so who are they protecting you or the scammer? they just made the scammers job a whole lot easier!! my question is, why are they not protecting us, their customers?
Checking out your vids after a referral from my buddy MadBadVoodo, I like what you're doing. I've bought and sold cards off of ebay and I never knew this was going on. Thanks for putting that info out there!!!
actually if they get a few buyers who complain they will remove the item, and if you tell the card manufacturer, they get the item pulled instantly because most manufacturers advertise with them, plus they will get sued, topps has taken them to court a few years ago and ebay lost
Yea but tell that to the ones who have forged autos and fake star jordans....i have made fbi reports and to the attorney generals office...they do nothing (ebay)that means the fbi...check out Bigboydsports.The patch problem is actually minor.
the patch problem is a multi million dollar problem, the fbi and AG's need a few people to complain, believe me, they keep every complaint you make, but they need a few complaints in order to assign agents to a person for investigation, same with the AG, i have worked with a few and it takes a lot of time, they like taking their time... keep up your good work, you are actually doing more than most people, that is the real problem, not enough complaints or complainers
Great video. I had been wondering if sports cards were going to be as badly counterfeited on Ebay as things like electronics. Good job exposing these people. Sadly Ebay is becoming more and more a marketplace for knockoffs and counterfeits. Shame really.
Great investigative work on your part, been on Ebay almost 12 years and I got to say THANKS for making these vids. I've got some stories to share about Beckett and PSA grading, blow you away.
I'm beginning to enjoy watching these videos Joseph.
It's like watching "Dateline" with that dude catching all of these child molesters except you are catching these "patch-switchers".
It's sad that idiots are stealing hundreds of dollars from customers. Once the fake patch has been inserted, the card is basically worthless since it's been tampered with.
Great Vid..I see alot of the SP Authentic patches /499 on the bay that have been changed..I think its funny though that even Beckett has been fooled by these fake's..
lmfao althought I'm PISSSSSSSSSSED about things like this, its a lil funny that some moron that that was real, dude be honest does that even look real to anyone? Not to me!!! shoot.
This stuff is all faked. When every mall in America is selling autographed stuff... what do you think ? That celebs just sign stuff all day? Of course it's all faked !! Do the math - I would say there are 2x as many 'authentic' autograph stores as there are 'apple' stores. That means there would be at least 600 in malls across America. They all seem to have the same merchandise. How is that even possible !!Unless you are buying for some Old fart in NY or LA - you are being ripped off!!!
lees8comments 1 week ago
@lees8comments LOL i mean buying from some old fart expert in NY or LA...
lees8comments 1 week ago
@MOPARGEORGE no because on the original it said "93/99" and on the fake it said "93/99" and since there was only ONE "93/99" card ever printed the other one is fake. So yes, he knows what he is talking about
KyleCagle3 2 weeks ago
Each Patch is cut different. What the fuck do you know?
MOPARGEORGE 3 weeks ago
Thank you so much for your efforts!!!
bbollmann2 2 months ago
I did not know this thank you for posting this Vid to warn people
MrBaseballfan84 2 months ago
Excellent research!! Thanks for sharing with the community...crazy that the scammers are starting to get their 'artwork' graded. Its too bad that the card manufacturers don't have a scanned directory of all of their products that BGS can bump against!!
DominusInfinitus 5 months ago
OMG, you idiot!!! NOT ALL PATCHES ARE GOING TO LOOK ALIKE......THEY ARE CUT FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE JERSEYS....THEY INCLUDE, LETTERS, NUMBERS, PATCHES, STITCHING.....ANY PART OF THE JERSEY IS USED.... DO YOUR RESEARCH AND BACK UP YOUR ACCUSATIONS FOR ONCE.....YOU CLAIM TO DO ALL THIS "RESEARCH"....WELL, HOW ABOUT RESEARCHING SOME FACTS, AND NOT JUST YOUR "OPINION".....WOW!!!
leeway123 7 months ago
@leeway123 maybe watch a video before you post a stupid comment, no opinions here, do drugs much? hearing problem maybe? i show a proven scammer and PROOF that the cards have been altered. too bad you no speak'n no english, you might learn something for a change... talking about an idiot, look in mirror lately?
JOEMLM 7 months ago
wow. Wuzz up with people consider english as a main proper language. This is the internet you fucking retard. It is called World Wide Web Stupid. Not just american you stupid fuck. jesus.......
SDKev858 6 months ago
@leeway123 lol hard to chop up a logo...Joe you really are witless and the people who follow you are more than likely just as intelligent ;) **ryder** should consider your remarks,being distributed via youtube,as harassing,defamatory and slam you with a libel suit :) Moronic logic you apply buddy :)
caracarn2006 6 months ago
@caracarn2006 another idiot who comments without watching the video, i show the same card that is altered before and after the fact, i have made a few videos SHOWING PROOF that ryder is a scammer, for your info a few scammers have tried suing and it always gets thrown out before trial, and twice the scammer had to pay my attorney fees, ALSO... IT IS NOT LIBELOUS IF I SHOW PROOF MORON!!!!!!!!!!!
JOEMLM 6 months ago
@leeway123 The serial numbers match you fucking idiot!!
NashVillain85 4 months ago
I've watched a couple of your videos and I have to laugh. ALL of your accusations are followed with " probably" and "maybe"...Everything you're saying is simply your opinion. You have absolutely NOTHING to back up anything you're saying. You make many references about the specifics of these cards, yet you show no creditials that backs up your "opinions". You make these accusations without ever touching these cards, you do this by the picture on the internet. I'd sue you in a heartbeat!
leeway123 7 months ago
Eye I know it's fake because they use the letters and numbers expose him it might even be the same dude on here your talking about
Jmelpegues 7 months ago
Look up redskinswizard this dude has every exquisite card basically but the Derrick Rose patch the bulls
Jmelpegues 7 months ago
wow this guy is a loser like James Spence
tbilly76 8 months ago
You're the man!!!
CasedInGlory 9 months ago
Hey gr8 work , I know one thing I will be checking out more of your videos for sure......I can not believe that Ebay is able to allow this type of thing to occur, there should be proven paperwork from the sportcard dealers of where the card was bought, when and of course......where and proof of purchase before anything is allowed to be even put on Ebay or some kind of membership other then a credit card number.Some kid buys a card and finds out 15 yrs later it's a fake, WHAT A SHAME!!!
80sMANDHROCK 11 months ago
thx for explaining this to be people i am a seller in this buisness and know bfor sure a few people who do this i have never ever ever brought or even picked up any cards from them if they ever do a show every card is a logo or a red ink autographed topps rookie premeir auto people get the picture after a while but its ashame this once fun hobbys now a shithole because of people like this theya re losers and trash there is really no word to describe them but i belive in karma theyl get ther day
baseball69247 1 year ago
Great video. I just subscribed to your account. Thanks for your info, I know I will use it.
bullcitysportscards 1 year ago
Awsome of you to do this. Just curious how do you find the original cards? Is there a specific website that gives it to you or you just research?
dloegsw 1 year ago
@dloegsw i have been doing this for a while now, i'm involved with the community, websites and forums, i work with other people,etc... certain players and certain types of cards are targeted by the scammers, so we copy the pictures of the cards, say crabtree is your favorite player, you go to ebay to see whats for sale, you find a few plain jersey cards that would be sweet if they had a cool patch, so you copy the cards with item number, then wait for a scammer to buy one, send me a pm for more
JOEMLM 1 year ago
How do you find the before shots of a card? Do you just google search the card/
wittenbergian 1 year ago
@wittenbergian i work with a few people, we each have a favorite player or 2, we just copy pictures of cards that are often altered, we put the ebay number in the image i.d., we keep a record of the original card, then wait for it to show up altered, then we make the PSA
JOEMLM 1 year ago
seller is no longer listed, must have closed up shop to make a new "clean" account
jsaredwings 1 year ago
@jsaredwings that scammer had his account closed by ebay! he got a bunch of complaints, complaints do work, unfortunately, ebay needs a bunch of them before they close a scammers account, if you watch a few of my PSA's i sometimes report when a big scammer gets his account closed
JOEMLM 1 year ago
Your doing a good job joemlm keep it up.
supermanrules221 1 year ago
I would like to see U.D post pics of all their memorabilia cards on line. It may be easy it may not be. Perhaps if it wasn't that easy because they make too many they will stop pumping out so much junk.
TiazaLynn 1 year ago
@TiazaLynn maybe not all the memorabilia, like the regular jersey cards, but there needs to be an archive of ALL their high end patches, logo cards, etc... that would be a plus,... you are not alone, next time you talk to UD let them know what you think, did you see my 'upper deck PSA' ? i gave them a little shout out, just do a search on youtube, also, thanks for watching and commenting
JOEMLM 1 year ago
@JOEMLM I'm not arguing with you Joe but I think Upper Deck should be totally in the dark about the value of their cards. In their opinion a Crosby auto patch and a Hemsky auto patch should be considered equally as valuable. It is total B.S how Upper Deck and Beckett share the same bed. I know their are tons of problems and I tried to keep this as short I could but I.T.G cards are starting to appeal to me more and more.
TiazaLynn 1 year ago
They are safer, but they also make plenty of mistakes, especially in autographs.
janderson65 1 year ago
@janderson65 thank you for your comment, thanks for watching and rating
JOEMLM 1 year ago
just how do people make the fake cards like do they have machines or by hand, thats crazy
ball1nbynature 1 year ago
@ball1nbynature the counterfeit cards are made by a professional printing machine and the fake patches are replaced by hand using some special tools usually from what i am told
JOEMLM 1 year ago
by the way, i would have a hard time saying they "save" all the good patches for the low numbered cards lol. i have pulled several sp authentic GOLD patches as well that were #'d to 25 that were 1 color. once again man i appreciate you nailing these fraudulent sellers, however your facts are not correct. i have PULLED plenty of logo patch auto's that are numbered to 999. and this didn't just start in 2009 either. i opened 6 cases of the 2008's and had several in those. keep up the good work tho
steelers50158 1 year ago
this is absolutely INCORRECT. i like your vid and people need to be aware that this goes on......however this is completely UNTRUE if they are numbered above 300 they are fake. the information you are providing is valuable, but do not pull numbers out of your ass and tell people that all patches numbered to 300 or more are fake! i have logo patches of BOTH joe flacco and chris johnson from 2008 sp authentic. both were pulled DIRECTLY from packs. so take a step back and just talk about facts.
steelers50158 1 year ago
I think you are incorrect on some of your statements. Some of these are scams but I redeemed a 2009 SPA Desean Jackson RC Patch auto and recieved a part of the eagles logo directly for Upper Deck. Just because there are 499 doesnt mean some of them cant be part of the logo.
mcentury50 2 years ago
in 2009 they ARE adding patches, etc to high numbered cards, THEY GOT THE IDEA FROM THE SCAMMERS! so who are they protecting you or the scammer? they just made the scammers job a whole lot easier!! my question is, why are they not protecting us, their customers?
JOEMLM 2 years ago
Checking out your vids after a referral from my buddy MadBadVoodo, I like what you're doing. I've bought and sold cards off of ebay and I never knew this was going on. Thanks for putting that info out there!!!
5 STARS
kenjisan1967 2 years ago
$740 for a fake patch
detroittigersandtaco 2 years ago
did you see my psa about the adrian peterson patches. some of them sold for $1,500 or more, all of them fake
JOEMLM 2 years ago
That makes me sick someone would do that
detroittigersandtaco 2 years ago
dang this is crazy how do these people do this without damaging the cards
kevinscards 2 years ago
SOMETIMES you can see a little damage, they do not care, they are greedy criminals
JOEMLM 2 years ago
nice video. im just saying that they do have logo patches on teh sp authentics. i have 4 of them adn there are a ton on ebay.
Gmen9172 2 years ago
if they are numbered 300 or above then they are fakes! ALL OF THEM!!
JOEMLM 2 years ago
ebay doesnt give a crap as long as they get paid
MRPROPAGANDAX 2 years ago
actually if they get a few buyers who complain they will remove the item, and if you tell the card manufacturer, they get the item pulled instantly because most manufacturers advertise with them, plus they will get sued, topps has taken them to court a few years ago and ebay lost
JOEMLM 2 years ago
Yea but tell that to the ones who have forged autos and fake star jordans....i have made fbi reports and to the attorney generals office...they do nothing (ebay)that means the fbi...check out Bigboydsports.The patch problem is actually minor.
MRPROPAGANDAX 2 years ago
the patch problem is a multi million dollar problem, the fbi and AG's need a few people to complain, believe me, they keep every complaint you make, but they need a few complaints in order to assign agents to a person for investigation, same with the AG, i have worked with a few and it takes a lot of time, they like taking their time... keep up your good work, you are actually doing more than most people, that is the real problem, not enough complaints or complainers
JOEMLM 2 years ago
my jaw dropped when u showd the other mayo!
BobGibsonFan 2 years ago
can you imagine somone alterling a card alrady selling for thousands, destroying some of the best cards ever ftl
mrhobby77 2 years ago
Great video. I had been wondering if sports cards were going to be as badly counterfeited on Ebay as things like electronics. Good job exposing these people. Sadly Ebay is becoming more and more a marketplace for knockoffs and counterfeits. Shame really.
TQDMcGee 2 years ago
Thanks for the heads up. I am almost afraid to buy any cards from ebay now. Do they make fake auto cards too? By the way, subbed to you too.
grfarmer 2 years ago
just look at my psa search for 'PSA: another Ebay faker! You decide!! '
JOEMLM 2 years ago
Great investigative work on your part, been on Ebay almost 12 years and I got to say THANKS for making these vids. I've got some stories to share about Beckett and PSA grading, blow you away.
mobeaches 2 years ago
make videos and share
JOEMLM 2 years ago
I'm beginning to enjoy watching these videos Joseph.
It's like watching "Dateline" with that dude catching all of these child molesters except you are catching these "patch-switchers".
It's sad that idiots are stealing hundreds of dollars from customers. Once the fake patch has been inserted, the card is basically worthless since it's been tampered with.
Great vid!
Blasterbreakguy 2 years ago
Lol he has a Reggie Wayne Rookie "NFL Logo" up there now
StarburyMatrix3 2 years ago
keep these coming please. It is just amazing to me........
briophia3540 2 years ago 6
Great Vid..I see alot of the SP Authentic patches /499 on the bay that have been changed..I think its funny though that even Beckett has been fooled by these fake's..
Thanks for the warning !!
jackandjillwentup123 2 years ago
keep posting them this is...good entertainment sorta of haha, glad someone else cares about this.
Thundering24 2 years ago
no worries chad i will
JOEMLM 2 years ago
u see my vid?
Thundering24 2 years ago
lmfao althought I'm PISSSSSSSSSSED about things like this, its a lil funny that some moron that that was real, dude be honest does that even look real to anyone? Not to me!!! shoot.
Thundering24 2 years ago
ditto
JOEMLM 2 years ago