@Shanongao I'm pretty sure this is why they are going thru DNA testing. I'm interested in seeing what further testing concludes. New discoveries are made every day.
@TheHeretic333 The sinuses are but one difference. The position of its neck is something very interesting as well. It's head is MUCH more balanced than ours since the neck attached directly under it.
I don't think it could be a mutation given the sheer number of differences. For instance, its bones are 3-4x+ stronger than ours. If it is a mutation, then I can't think of another example anywhere on Earth that could possibly compare with it along with all of the other differences.
This doesn't PROVE anything; it raises some amazing questions, yes, but they are not for us to answer. This is a sign to investigate further, not jump to conclusions, or at the very least you should offer a number of possible theories.
Alien DNA think about that...DNA being something that occurred on earth so not only did life arise on other planets (which don't get me wrong is possible.) It was also DNA based life! Now we all know that different species on earth can't breed right? A cat can't breed with a dog it's too genetically different so how can an extra terrestrial being breed with a human? I suppose I'm just going to see we don't know we don't have their technology!
This is truly astounding empirical proof of non "Terran" DNA. The only reason this isn't on every newspaper front page, every prime TV report is pure fear. Fear of ridicule (and of funding suddenly drying up) and fear of accepting we are Not Alone.
The human ability to deny the obvious is the same ability that drives arrogance the world over.
Independant investigation on the nature of the skull shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that is is not human. No match has been found beyond similarity and size to a human being.
We do not try to prove that it is alien in nature, the investigation was solely meant to exclude any possibility that it was human.
We are strong defenders of human rights and have the means to shut down any operation that would abuse them.
just wanted 2 say that the illuminati controls wikipedia, lloyd pye warns in all is video that the goverment (illuminati) trying dismiss this skull saying its full humen with a rare disease no creature ever found with a disease like this -.- you peeps should study more about lloyd pye before making claims.
Mr 007hor, are on line no? I would like to post a document to you that you will delete after making a copy. I do not want it to stay posted because it contains confidential information. It is a good document.. Answer me and as soon as you do I will post it so you can erase it a few momoents later, Can it be done?
@JnSavedByTheBell, the skull does have 342 base pairs of nuDNA that are alien.
@007hor __ False. In many places Pye says that the nuDNA is yet to be determined promising results as soon as they would be done. DNA testing requires samples (database) that have to be compared to. If you want to a paternity test, you need DNA samples from both the child and the father. Pye does not have a DNA sample from any alien to compare the results from the skull.
@JnSavedByTheBell, Thats 342 on the initial test. Please look up 'genome annotation' and BLAST. You don't quite understand the science behind the research.
The fact that there are no samples to compare it to on the National Institute of Health's genome database is odd, don't you think?
Maybe not from another planet, but definately alien to us.
Saying : the skull has so many pairs of this or whatever of that, does not give anything to compare it too. Only a moron would say that what is missing or unknown is alien. You do not know what alien DNA is or even if aliens have DNA to begin with. If you have any difference from other human beings that does not make you an alien. You seem to lack power of reasoning as humans do, so must be an alien.
@JnSavedByTheBell, as far as I know, he wrote 1 episode of 'Scarecrow and Mrs King', back in '87, this isn't a sci-fi show. I think his novel was based on his time playing college gridiron.
If you could give a link or names of any other work he has been credited with, I would really appreciate it.
Also, the skull he has is a replica. The real skull actually belongs to Ray and Melanie Young, Not Monsieur Pye.
Of course I am sincere. Even if someone resorts to ad-hominem, I have nothing to gain by telling them to "fuck right off ". I do have sypathy for your brother, it is an awful condition. Why wouldn't I wish him the best? I would be an awful person to mock him, even if I was just trying to upset you.
This might be a faceless discussion, but I still have morals.
Be careful. If you are not Lloyd Pye, you will be asked to testify about your role in the matter. Posting a freak show and tending to its website is accessory and also illegal. You are accountable for your actions. Leniency is accorded if there is no malice intended but never given to the one who holds the bag of a criminal. The only way you can save yourself is by pulling out of such an association. Don’t be so eager to side with him, you will get caught in the accusations that concerns him.
So what is it going to be? An honest research of extraterrestrial life or a despicable freak show? If the first one has its place in the advancement of science, the second one is prohibited by the law.
It will not take much to bring down your operation. You are going to be famous. Your name will be added to the list of scammers who profit from the disability of a child by showing him as a freak and pretending he is an alien.
I have the means and the way to bring you right into the public eye and eventually to the authorities. Lawsuits will start pouring in and you will lose everything. The Starchild Project has better come clean or you will be shown the same respect you give to this poor human child, to be treated as a freak.
@JnSavedByTheBell, if you feel the matter is as serious as this, I suggest you contact Lloyd himself. You could even start a conversation on his videos or leave a message on his channel.
But as you have said, if it is a hoax, Mr Pye will be disgraced and probably spend time in jail losing respect and money.
The question I ask is, why would he do this? It doesn't make sense to me.
The law forbids the "exhibition of any deformed human being or human monstrosity, except as used for scientific purposes". It is of the outmost importance that you prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that the skull you are using is not human. Not in endless arguments with vague and unreliable "evidence" but with court procedures where allegations have to be proven.
The skull has proven human DNA and so far, none of alien DNA, you have no ground to stand on. Your only chance is to claim scientific purposes and treat it as such. No evasive maneuver or argumentation will do, there will be some people watching you. You said you were honest, we will see if it is true.
In Amerindian customs it is the tribe that raise the children, not only the parents. It is very common to see and uncle or an ant to take care of the young ones.
Don't start crying, I'm not the one who made this story. Think about the life the child had and about all his pain, that's an handicapped child that you are using. Who cares,he's dead , he's been dead for 900 years and I'm a dodgy head (whatever a dodgy is) is what you'll say.
There are other children with the same disease, you paint them as aliens, add to their suffering and of their family. Nice move Pye. What if James had a big head, would you have called him an alien?
The SC has wear on the teeth showing maturity was reached. At present, the age of death is unclear, but it is unlikely to have lived as long as it did if they were in fact deformities.
By saying this is a deformity, you are not explaining it, but complicating it. This is not a deformity that we have ever seen before. It has no sinuses, no inion, it has fibres in the bone and is 3 times as thin, but twice as strong as humans. These are facts.
@007hor __ You can not predict how a difformity will turn out, nobody can. There are not any norms in Hydroceplalus. This is the only hydrocephalic skull you have ever seen. Go have a look at "hydrocephalus child", not only one but thousand of them. There is nothing we can do for them but do not add to their burden. If we could do anything that could help them would be to grant them a wish before they die and not treat them as aliens.
@007hor __ My brother lived until he was fifty, even if the doctors had given him no chance to reach maturity. Few Hydrocephalic make it so painful is the disease. That he might have reached maturity probably shows that someone loved him and took care of him, could be the woman that died with him.
@JnSavedByTheBell, and your brother was lucky to have a caring family. But you have also stated that your brother's case was not as severe as some of the starchild-like examples. If this is a deformity, it is one of the most bizarre we've ever come across. We must test this skull to get an answer, whatever that answer is.
The woman's mtDNA was from Haplogroup A, the SC from group C, but she may have been a friend or nurse of some kind I agree.
@007hor __ My brother' s difformity was not as severe because he received treatment. They installed a drain tube in his spine that had to be replaced every two years. He stayed in the hospita for eight yeras and had over ten major operations.
If that child had such a round head it was because he had no treatment. Check again "hydrocephalus child" and you will see children with heads as round and even bigger than the one you got.
@JnSavedByTheBell, the thing is, the skull isn't round, the back is flat. The suture lines are open but show no forced expansion and the inside of the skull shows no abrasion from the fluid you mention. The outside shows no trace of cradleboarding or artificial shaping either.
I hear your point on the teeth and will bare it in mind.
I am also very sorry for your brother, but I don't think the SC is another Sarah Baartman/John Merrick situation.
@007hor __ Do I feel compassion in your words? If there is, you might have a chance to come clean. Issue a statement that you do not endorse freak shows and that you have the final proof that your SC is an alien/human hybrid beyond a shadow of a doubt. Post it with references that can verified.
@007hor __ Forceps were unknown 900 years ago in native tribes.
Abrasion from cerebro-spinal fluid occurs only if there is constant movement of the head, the brain does not move on its own. Very few hydrocephalus cranium show signs of abrasion, only the vigorous ones do.
A flat on the back of the skull could indicate that the child spent a lot of time lying down on its back while its head was slowly ballooning. It is to be expected as the body and neck are often underdeveloped and its head being heavier than normal. I see the flat on the back of its skull as a sign of hydrocephalus.
There is no way to know if that race of alien have flat rear heads or not.
@007hor __ Expansion of the cranial box does not happen overnight but over a long period of time. The skull plates grow to accomodate the excess cerebro-spinal fluid and the suture lines are closed at all times. It is not like an eggshell that would crack under the pressure. The skull grows with the amount of abnormal fluid in the head. Growth can only be stopped by draining the fluid out of the cranium, such as with my brother, with a tube inserted in the spine.
You are a fiction writer and that's a talent, you use it well, it is a good thing. That the story is made-up does not matter. Stories are made to be believable and you make it so, you have talent.
An artist should gets paid for his work and yours is good.Your T-shirts are great, that's good use of marketing.
I hope that once in a while you have good thoughts for the child for he is the one who brings you good fortune. Next time you hold his skull into your hands, simply tell him: "Thank You"
@JnSavedByTheBell The speed of light has been broken at CERN and our universe is now understood to be an electric plasma so there is alot we don't know and are wrong about.
@chadwarrenonline The speed of light is always affected at every black hole. It is accelerated downwards and slowed down to a halt outwards. If it would not, it would escape and black holes would shine. I agree there is a lot we do not understand but we are a beginners' race and barely starting to learn. 10 000 years ago we were merely hunters-gatherers. Science is a a relatively new concept of the last few hundred years. We are the newborn babies of the universe. We haven't learned to walk yet
@MisskJ1221 __ The Bible has been written 3500 years ago, writing having evolved from clay to papyrus which comes from the Nile and opens in the south of the Mediteranean Sea. That's where civilisation started and we are still doing it. We moved up to Europe and made bigger tribes. Homo Sapiens conquered it all and fought each other and we are now the dominant species of this planet. There are 7 000 000 000 of us now. We started to go off planet, some of us are dreaming about stars.
@MisskJ1221 __ Gobekli Tepe is great. Just after what the Bible calls the Flood. When the ice caps melted, the oceans levels rose by 400 feet (120 meters) and overflooded into the Mediteranean Sea which was dry. Vegetation appeared around it and our ancestors which had come down from the Nile down from lake Victoria thrived in it, in this new paradise. Çatal Höyük comes after that, only 7000 years and shows how Homo Sapiens adapted to sedentarism and agriculture. That period is fascinating.
@MisskJ1221 __ It is the tribe that lived there at the time who made that. The hole area moved down into a bowl. It happens all the time. It's for the same reason, mammoth tusks at the bottom of the North Sea. The earth moves all the time, it is plastic. Tectonics, mountains grow, rifts happen, depressions forming lakes... This one is recent, probably at the end of the Wurm (Ice Age), 12000 years ago. Homo sapiens was making rock structures at that time. We still do it. We call them cathedrals.
In coventional physics, a blackhole is where the gravitational force, which is caused by phase conjugate fractality, becomes sufficient that light can't escape. Meaning that gravity is so great, the charge is imploded. But where does it go? Perhaps it continues to accelerate through the speed of light?
@007hor __ It doesn't go anywhere What is sucked in at the bottom of a pit stays in the pit. It forrms the nucleus of the black hole which is only a big star, a collasped star. Where goes the hydrogen which is sucked into the sun?. It is compressed into helium, giving off energy and that's how the sun shines.Acceleration of light towards the center of a black hole is a physical law that can't be broken. Light can be slowed down or accelerated. The same principle applies to time.
@007hor __ It does continue to accelerate until it reaches a bi-dimensional state. Time to the square. The other side of the equation is energy over mass. That's the definition of matter. A black hole turns light into matter. E=MC2, so M=E/C2.
A implosion implies a release of the compressing charge. Once compressed into matter, it says compressed and need an outside source of energy to release it. Even if the black hole were to disintegrate it would remain matter just as helium remains helium.
According to Fractal Field Theory, fractality is infinite compression solved. The golden mean ratio perfects fractality, called 'phase conjugation', and the geometry produces a non destructive compression.
But I'm not getting into this here, I was specifically debating the skull or have you no more to add on the matter? If not, I bid you a good day.
As for your Skull, we both know it is not what you say it is and I can understand your position where you can not admit to it. You have a good thing going and it must be fun to get people curious and wondering "what if". It brings you revenues, you get to travel and meet a lot of people, it even got you yacking about the state of the universe. That's all good. If what you do is not scientific, at least it is entertaining. Good luck in your future endeavors and may the force be with you.
@007hor __ What you are saying is that the900 years old skull of an hydrocephalic human child is an alien/human hybrid with overwhelming evidence against it.
You do make money with it, you are selling books about it and giving lectures where you ask for donations which you claim will be refunded as soon as nuclear DNA testing is done on the skull.
Unscientific is making claims without proof.
You are a fiction writer pretending to be a scientist.
@JnSavedByTheBell, could you direct me to the comment in which I made that claim and also give me an example of this "ovewhealming evidence"? Pictures of your deceased sibling will not suffice I'm afraid. I do accept the NIH as reliable, unlike you.
I give no lectures therefore receive no donations.
I have never made any claim without proof.
I am a fiction writer though (screenplays), that is the only correct statement you have made.
@007hor __ You are saying the same thing I said. Light is infinitely compressed into matter and it is non-destructive, it does not implode. Phase conjugation is like a mirror, in that it reflects incident light back towards where it came from, hence compressing the light into a single point which becomes matter That's what you said using "bigger" words. I can talk like that too but I prefer to keep it simple. The thing is that we are both saying the same thing.
@JnSavedByTheBell, OK, this will be the last I have to add on this matter.
The geometry I have mentioned creates centripedal force. The POINT I am making is: You're not going to solve the problems you've highlighted with conventional physics, this doesn't mean they are impossible to solve.
I have stated several times that this subject is too complex for a 200 character limit to do it justice. I'm not trying to sound clever, just telling it like it is.
@007hor __ The skull. There are two skulls involved.
One is from a poor human child who suffered and died from Hydrocephalus, the other one is from a fiction writer who believes in aliens.
Lloyd Anthony Pye, aka 007hor, worked in Hollywood as a fiction screenwriter from 1975 to 1995 then turned "non-fictional" by grave-digging the deformed cranium of a human child and has been making money with it since then.
His skull is filled with alien rapists roaming the cosmos faster than light.
@JnSavedByTheBell, ahhhh, just seen this message after I'd replied. I think this conversation is over. This infantile and ludicrous statement proves you have nothing more to offer.
But I do take it as a compliment that you feel I articulate myself on the matter as well as the theory's main proponent.
The nearest star is Sirius at four light years from earth. In the improbable chance that it is where the alien came from, it took four years for the alien to come here, impregnate "in-vitro" an earth woman and then four years to get back home. If he came from another star, then his round trip would take him even longer. What a space mission. Strut around the cosmos and get females from different planet pregnant. Delirious, except it is the deformed skull of a human child to do it.
@JnSavedByTheBell, Basic astronomy. Sirius A&B are around 8.6LY away making them our 7th closest star/s, and Proxima Centauri is our nearest star at around 4.2 LY.
Your understanding of intervention theory is equally as bad.
@007hor -- Since you know how distant the stars are (easily obtainable knowledge from any stellar site) you should know how long it take to cross the void. Unless your alien travels faster than the speed of light, it will take it at least twice that time to make the trip back and forth. That means a minimum of 8,4 years in the best case scenario to come to Earth and inseminate a woman. Those aliens are not too smart and you do not sound any better than them. Aliens, get real.
@JnSavedByTheBell, If its easily obtainable, I repeat "stop posting ill-informed nonsense".
Now we are talking about intervention theory and I have neither the time nor the inclination to get into space travel. At this point, it is irrelevant as there is so much to consider including; plasma universe, phase conjugation/fractality, string theory and recent neutrino results at the LHC.
I am trying to talk about the skull, but you keep kicking the facts into the long grass.
@007hor __ Irrelevant to find out how the alien got here to sire a child? Maybe if you get in contact with it, it will tell you all about the plasma universe, the phase conjugation/fractality, the string theory and the neutrino results at the LHC and more. Surely the alien knows about these things since he comes from the stars. Now is your chance to advance humanity knowledge in a big way and you say you do not have the time? It's a major priority.
@JnSavedByTheBell, I said, "I have neither the time nor the inclination to get into space travel". This is not because it is unimportant, but it is a different topic altogether and infinitely more complex. You are trying to dismiss evidence based on the theory it may support.
"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
Ah, let's see the evidence, says 007hor. It's about time. Let's see if Lloyd Pye can find a lab willing to do testing of alien dna. Reputable scientists do not investigate fiction.
The same applies to medical professionals. No doctor on earth will discard hydrocephalus to diagnose alien impregnation, he would lose his licence. No doctor will do that to prove the arguments of a fiction writer.
Good luck in finding anybody to back up a story about rapists who travel at the speed of light.
For everyone who keeps bleating "hydrocephaly", I suggest you read the report compiled on it in relation to the SC skull before commenting. You're not the first person to suggest it.
Here is just 1 interesting fact against hydrocephaly: There are no signs of erosion on the internal surfaces of the skull, ruling out fluid between the brain and skull.
@007hor __ I did check it. It is full of misinformation. Hydrocephalus does not balloons the skull in all directions. Some hydro-cephalic victims have only on side of their head afflicted as in my own brother, do you want a picture? Hydrocephalus does cause flattening of the occipital, shallowing and realigning of the eye sockets, clearly visible on the skull of my own brother. Lloyd Anthony Pye is not a scientist, he is a fiction writer that uses the internet to publish his make-up story.
@JnSavedByTheBell, you further prove that it isn't hydrocephaly. Hydrocephalic skulls tend to be asymmetrical, the SC skull has amazing symetry AND a large number of other abnormalities.
Furthermore, Pye didn't come to these conclusions in the report, it was a number of medical professionals. The report clearly states this.
I feel you are upset and feel that Lloyd Pye is disrespecting a deformed child, but it isn't a deformity and it isn't a child.
@007hor __ Hydrocephalic skulls are both symmetrical and asymmetrical, nobody can predict the shape of a difformity. I can send you pictures of both.
I question the medical professionals who never wondered how a baby with a head twice the normal size could survive a delivery. You would surely need a c-section as the baby's head would be larger than the woman's pelvis bone. Both would die from it.
Make up your mind if your starchild is human or not. If he had human dna then it is a child.
@JnSavedByTheBell, I said "tend to be asymmetrical" and a symmetrical hydrocaphalic skull doesn't reflect the level of symmetry displayed in the SC.
Your second point only highlights the strange circumstances surrounding the skull. I'm not sure why you think that supports your claim.
My mind is made up, its partially human. The mtDNA is human but as of now, the nuDNA shows a chain of 342 base pairs having "no significant match" in the NIH DB. Some of its DNA is unique.
You are such morons. This condition is called hydrocephalus. Cranial deformations are the result of accumulations of cerebrospinal fluid within the skull. If you want another "starchild" cranium, you can dig up my brother's corpse who lived all his life with this handicap. If you want more "aliens" like that, I can show you graves that are full of them. Bring your spaceship.
@007hor ...ill-informed nonsense is believing that aliens will travel thousands of light years to inseminate women then leave without a trace except for their starchild babies. Aliens are such sneaky advanced creatures. Lloyd Anthony Pye is using the skull of human child who suffered and died from hydrocephalus to draw money (donations) from believers in his pseudoscience. There are lots of information about this internet hoax. You've been had 007hor, I suggests you check it out.
@JnSavedByTheBell, your comment fails to deliver when you claim; "Lloyd Anthony Pye is using the skull of human child who suffered and died from hydrocephalus".
It is not a hydrocephallic child. It isn't even a child, in fact.
Anophthalmia/Microphthalmia, Apert Syndrome, Brachycephaly, Cruzon Syndrome, Morgellons Disease, Patau Syndrome, Progeria, Trisomy 9, Hydrocephally and cradleboarding don't explain the abnormalities, nor does any combination of them.
@007hor "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." One tenet of science compels scientists to share their discoveries so that others may test the evidence to either corroborate or disprove factual claims. Craig Venter would be happy to quickly run DNA testing on this skull. Refusal to present evidence for one's claims equals an admission of fraud.
@grubelsucht, ah, you speak on behalf of My Venter do you? Lloyd Pye is compiling evidence as we speak. The genome needs to be fully sequenced before an official claim is made. That is happening at the NIH, right now. I'm not sure why you say he is "refusing to present evidence". Most people who are following the SC know that this is ALL about providing DNA evidence. Only time will tell.
@007hor Let's see the evidence, not verbiage. Ample time for DNA studies has passed. Such analyses now can be done in days. This video was posted one year ago.
@grubelsucht, the evidence and current findings are there, and they are very interesting. It takes time and money. You don't have to give any money, but at least have patience.
@grubelsucht __ Right to the point. True scientists always bring proofs before they claim theories. A fiction writer does not. No reputable laboratory will scan his hydocephalic skull for traces of alien DNA. How does he know that aliens have DNA to begin with? If humans can not procreate with chimpanzee which have 99% compatible DNA, how could an alien do it when it has none?
"No reputable laboratory will scan his hydocephalic skull for traces of alien DNA"
454 Life Sciences HAVE tested this skull. It has 342 base pairs of nucleotides which has no significant match on the National Institute of Health database. Some of its DNA is alien, some of it is human.
Do you even know the difference between ET and alien?
heres my take. the genetic mutation if it werent alien would have killed the child shortly after birth. modern medicine is less than 100yrs old. you could not have 342 base pairs mutate and survive during that time. mutation is small and incremental based on multiple variables. it is not far fetched. to think we are alone is arrogant. to think a species 1000yrs ahead of us wouldnt have cosmic transportation. look at sumer. the first for everything. and they clearly state their gods were aliens.
Ancient bones often reveal traces of disease and violence because they lived in a violent world with primitive forms of medicine. This kid had an accumulation of fluid in the skull, which would cause the anomalies mentioned here. About 100 years ago someone fraudulently made a fortune selling Piltdown man as the evolutionary "missing link." That hoax resulted in gleeful denunciations of science and evolution by another group of con men--preachers.
Its entirely human. You couldn't mix human and alien dna because humans and aliens even if they do exist would have evolved way differently. This is a deformed human skull with bad DNA.
@Cainkane1 care to explain what "bad dna" is. and why would this guy risk his career to lie to people? keep an open mind, the universe is a mysterious place and whos to say that something like hes suggesting could'nt have happened
@Cainkane1 I don't believe this has anything to do with little green people from the stars, but I also know that there's no possibility for a human being to live with such a huge mutation in its DNA.
Well, if the Genome are real! Can we revive the starchild in the future when the technology matures? I read in Physics of the Future that we will be able to revive the wolly mammoth in the future.
@conan0869 It's fake if it isn't in the news. Right. The 17 years old chinese girl who found a particle that might cure cancer is fake too, because it wans't in the papers.
was that sarcastic? think youl find most things you read in the media is bullshit, tricking your mind thats what there doin, u just cant see it.............(;
@wompwawawomp Before I even started to watch this video, I looked for every scientist related to this project, I found information about articles and other publications related to them. I also read every result, including eletroforesis results. I think you'll find out that taking english classes is really usefull, by the way, because I took more time reading this than watching the video. Most part of things you read in the media is bullshit, but you comment is only bullshit.
I'm not hostile to this theory, not in the least. I am curious, because what I had read in the Wiki was the precise opposite of what this video is saying, and that gets my interest. I'd like to know what this guy's got. But so far, I am seeing an awful lot of ways that this theory could be bogus, and I need to hear a lot more to be convinced. I feel kinda sorry for people who are this quick to believe an incomplete theory, cleverly edited together.
Look up the Nazca Lines found in Peru. Ancient drawings the desert. In particular, the one that the Nazca people called "The Astronaut," which resembled features of that of the modern day depiction of aliens; big head, big eyes, tall, skinny. The head of "The Astronaut," is actually very similar to the shape of the Starchild skull. There was always a possibility for everything. It was a possibility that you were born, it could've or couldnt have happened. It's a possibility that t
The fibers that grow as a symptom of Morgellons disease grow out of soft tissue. The fibers is Starchild's skull are only in the skull. Plus Morgellons fibers are crystal like and the Starchild skull fibers are very durable and dense. And the fact the DNA testing done with the gel, shows that there were 6 attempts where no nuDNA was found in Starchild's skull, same code segment of that of the control human skull, where there was nuDNA found. So Starchild did not have DNA where a human does, but
Anyone heard of the nephilim?? if not dont worry, the people in power positions of your country have, and they are working desperately to bring them back, just as prophecy told us.. Anyone seen the morgellons fibers people have been suffering with recently do to chemtrails/deathdumps being spayed by almost every plane you see nowadays? I see a connection here.. Those with eyes see I guess,.. you Amerikkkan sheeple will be the death of the world due to your incredible lack of awareness. GOD BLESS
"Anyone with an understanding of basic human anatomy and that of the Greys would make the same staggering connection,” says Lloyd Pye. “They have no choice."
Brilliant archeology there Lloyd. @_@ I hope you don't run into a deformed child, you might mistake him for a space alien.
No significant evidence that human female can carry a baby of an unknown species to full term or as you call an "alien" or even give birth to it. You don't know the size of the baby, you don't know shape/behavior of the baby, and you don't know what kind of reactions are taking place. You can't simply say "Nature can do anything" or "DNA trumps nature" or blindly say "This is what we THINK." End of discussion.
@zeroglare Thats because no one will allow any sort of actual experimentation on what human females can and cant carry to term, in the 1930's - 1950's a Russian scientist was very close to successfully having a human female carry an ape child to term, when his results began to show promise they shut him down, ethics wont allow a country to investigate this fully, and if they did secretly they sure wouldn't be advertising the results. to you sir I say, Herpa Derpy Derp.
His results didn't show any promise he tried to fertilize apes with human sperm and it didn't work ,he dried to fertilize human female with ape sperm and it didn't work,
If it doesn't work with our closest living relatives it sure won't with alien creature that is totally unrelated and is product of different evolution on other planet.
It would be like trying to crossbreed human with a squid or trying to crossbreed human and fish by masturbating in the sea
It was already determined that the child was in fact 100 percent human. Look up Hydrocephalus.
Hontaish 5 days ago
@Hontaish yeeeeeeeeeaaaaah.....no
kroe1971 4 days ago
@kroe1971 Uh.. yes. It's not an alien, mRNA testing proves that. Going against evidence is just like a religious zealot.
Hontaish 4 days ago
@Hontaish, wtf are you talking about? What mRNA testing proves that?
007hor 3 days ago
@Hontaish, no it wasn't you idiot.
007hor 3 days ago
1) this thing is 900 yrs old
2) I am sure you can find a person living today with a fucked up looking skull
3) Theres not enough proof here to conclude shit, because for all we know it was a mutation.
Shanongao 6 days ago
@Shanongao I'm pretty sure this is why they are going thru DNA testing. I'm interested in seeing what further testing concludes. New discoveries are made every day.
roryboryalice 6 days ago
@Shanongao you got anything to disprove it?
kroe1971 4 days ago
@Shanongao,
1) Yes
2) Yes, not like this though.
3) There is ample reason to warrant further analysis, as it is evident this is not a simple mutation.
007hor 3 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I want this video on my EX128 unit.
bennynewton38 6 days ago
bahahahaha! the data shown here only leads to one logical conclusion, alien love triangle! good luck with that.
th3s3raph 6 days ago
aliens do real
lazomaniac 1 week ago
I have to admit, it's astonishing that there's DNA that is not like humans, but there's still much to ask before jumping to conclusions
MidwayWuzzupman 1 week ago
lolwat
CelticAngloPress 1 week ago 4
@CelticAngloPress racist
CINTERPOL 1 week ago
@CINTERPOL
Communist.
CelticAngloPress 6 days ago
could it be that this was just some mutation that didn't manage to survive?
BunnaySango 1 week ago
@BunnaySango Even if it was a mutation, everything on earth is born with sinuses. this thing had zip, along with 20 something odd major differences.
TheHeretic333 1 week ago
@TheHeretic333 The sinuses are but one difference. The position of its neck is something very interesting as well. It's head is MUCH more balanced than ours since the neck attached directly under it.
I don't think it could be a mutation given the sheer number of differences. For instance, its bones are 3-4x+ stronger than ours. If it is a mutation, then I can't think of another example anywhere on Earth that could possibly compare with it along with all of the other differences.
Xawthem 6 days ago
Sources please?
miganders 1 week ago
i think it was just one ugly dude
purplehaze216 1 week ago
This doesn't PROVE anything; it raises some amazing questions, yes, but they are not for us to answer. This is a sign to investigate further, not jump to conclusions, or at the very least you should offer a number of possible theories.
lunkhead57 1 week ago 2
Alien DNA think about that...DNA being something that occurred on earth so not only did life arise on other planets (which don't get me wrong is possible.) It was also DNA based life! Now we all know that different species on earth can't breed right? A cat can't breed with a dog it's too genetically different so how can an extra terrestrial being breed with a human? I suppose I'm just going to see we don't know we don't have their technology!
ronocko 1 week ago
5:05 What the hell is that guy wearing? Is it a sleeveless hoodie? Why are his shoulders so hairy? These are the real mysteries here.
DoubtingDidymus 1 week ago 2
@DoubtingDidymus LOL LMFAO
BruBoyz 6 days ago
This is truly astounding empirical proof of non "Terran" DNA. The only reason this isn't on every newspaper front page, every prime TV report is pure fear. Fear of ridicule (and of funding suddenly drying up) and fear of accepting we are Not Alone.
The human ability to deny the obvious is the same ability that drives arrogance the world over.
0zmeath 2 weeks ago 10
@0zmeath Or the fact that it's a load of shit.
Fallout3FatCat 1 week ago
@Fallout3FatCat OR....Fuck You
kroe1971 4 days ago
@kroe1971 Problem?
Fallout3FatCat 3 days ago
cool alien dna found on earth :)
theideagirlsays 2 weeks ago
@ 007hor and all viewers of this post.
Independant investigation on the nature of the skull shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that is is not human. No match has been found beyond similarity and size to a human being.
We do not try to prove that it is alien in nature, the investigation was solely meant to exclude any possibility that it was human.
We are strong defenders of human rights and have the means to shut down any operation that would abuse them.
Scientific research is legitimate.
JnSavedByTheBell 2 weeks ago
just wanted 2 say that the illuminati controls wikipedia, lloyd pye warns in all is video that the goverment (illuminati) trying dismiss this skull saying its full humen with a rare disease no creature ever found with a disease like this -.- you peeps should study more about lloyd pye before making claims.
Aliendragonful 2 weeks ago
Mr 007hor, are on line no? I would like to post a document to you that you will delete after making a copy. I do not want it to stay posted because it contains confidential information. It is a good document.. Answer me and as soon as you do I will post it so you can erase it a few momoents later, Can it be done?
JnSavedByTheBell 2 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, I will be online for the next hour.
007hor 2 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, the skull does have 342 base pairs of nuDNA that are alien.
@007hor __ False. In many places Pye says that the nuDNA is yet to be determined promising results as soon as they would be done. DNA testing requires samples (database) that have to be compared to. If you want to a paternity test, you need DNA samples from both the child and the father. Pye does not have a DNA sample from any alien to compare the results from the skull.
JnSavedByTheBell 2 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, Thats 342 on the initial test. Please look up 'genome annotation' and BLAST. You don't quite understand the science behind the research.
The fact that there are no samples to compare it to on the National Institute of Health's genome database is odd, don't you think?
Maybe not from another planet, but definately alien to us.
007hor 2 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, watch this video from 4:46 onwards.
When the entire genome is sequenced, Lloyd Pye will go down in history one way or the other.
007hor 2 weeks ago
Saying : the skull has so many pairs of this or whatever of that, does not give anything to compare it too. Only a moron would say that what is missing or unknown is alien. You do not know what alien DNA is or even if aliens have DNA to begin with. If you have any difference from other human beings that does not make you an alien. You seem to lack power of reasoning as humans do, so must be an alien.
JnSavedByTheBell 2 weeks ago
How to make money with a freak show?
Ask Lloyd Anthony Pye.
JnSavedByTheBell 2 weeks ago
Doesn’t make sense to you?
It’s obvious, he is making money from it.
He needed an alien to prove his theories and since there are none around he took what could look like one.
His vision of an alien comes from Hollywood movies.
That’s where he worked for over twenty years writing B grade fiction screen plays.
JnSavedByTheBell 2 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, as far as I know, he wrote 1 episode of 'Scarecrow and Mrs King', back in '87, this isn't a sci-fi show. I think his novel was based on his time playing college gridiron.
If you could give a link or names of any other work he has been credited with, I would really appreciate it.
Also, the skull he has is a replica. The real skull actually belongs to Ray and Melanie Young, Not Monsieur Pye.
007hor 2 weeks ago
That’s how he got his “science” aliens always have big heads from the make-up they are wearing.
One day he found the skull of a human being who suffered from Hydrocephalus and he had found his “alien”.
DNA shows it is human and the rest us unknown so he jumped to the conclusion it was an alien because he wanted one.
He makes a show out of a deformed child, laughing all the way to the bank.
JnSavedByTheBell 2 weeks ago
Your reply is duly noted and our entire exchange has been recorded and filed for future use.
I am touched by your feelings of compassion and if real will plead in your favour.
This video shows a certain Lloyd Pye holding and using the deformed human skull of a child for exhibition purposes and questionable designs.
JnSavedByTheBell 2 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, as well as being in the public domain.
Of course I am sincere. Even if someone resorts to ad-hominem, I have nothing to gain by telling them to "fuck right off ". I do have sypathy for your brother, it is an awful condition. Why wouldn't I wish him the best? I would be an awful person to mock him, even if I was just trying to upset you.
This might be a faceless discussion, but I still have morals.
007hor 2 weeks ago
Be careful. If you are not Lloyd Pye, you will be asked to testify about your role in the matter. Posting a freak show and tending to its website is accessory and also illegal. You are accountable for your actions. Leniency is accorded if there is no malice intended but never given to the one who holds the bag of a criminal. The only way you can save yourself is by pulling out of such an association. Don’t be so eager to side with him, you will get caught in the accusations that concerns him.
JnSavedByTheBell 2 weeks ago
It does not matter if you feel that this is a freak show or not, it will be up to the Court to decide, not you.
You better hurry and get your “very interesting results” soon because there are others coming that you might not like.
What you call rash is only justice, try to explain that to a Judge.
JnSavedByTheBell 2 weeks ago
So what is it going to be? An honest research of extraterrestrial life or a despicable freak show? If the first one has its place in the advancement of science, the second one is prohibited by the law.
JnSavedByTheBell 2 weeks ago
It will not take much to bring down your operation. You are going to be famous. Your name will be added to the list of scammers who profit from the disability of a child by showing him as a freak and pretending he is an alien.
JnSavedByTheBell 2 weeks ago
I have the means and the way to bring you right into the public eye and eventually to the authorities. Lawsuits will start pouring in and you will lose everything. The Starchild Project has better come clean or you will be shown the same respect you give to this poor human child, to be treated as a freak.
JnSavedByTheBell 2 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, if you feel the matter is as serious as this, I suggest you contact Lloyd himself. You could even start a conversation on his videos or leave a message on his channel.
But as you have said, if it is a hoax, Mr Pye will be disgraced and probably spend time in jail losing respect and money.
The question I ask is, why would he do this? It doesn't make sense to me.
007hor 2 weeks ago
@007hor, his channel is: /user/OfficialLloydPye
007hor 2 weeks ago
@007hor why dyou reply reply to yourself
kroe1971 4 days ago
@kroe1971, the conversation I had with JNSavedByTheBell became somewhat disjointed, I wouldn't expect you to trawl through it to make sense of it.
007hor 4 days ago
The law forbids the "exhibition of any deformed human being or human monstrosity, except as used for scientific purposes". It is of the outmost importance that you prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that the skull you are using is not human. Not in endless arguments with vague and unreliable "evidence" but with court procedures where allegations have to be proven.
JnSavedByTheBell 2 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, scientific investigation is not carried out through court procedures.
007hor 2 weeks ago
The skull has proven human DNA and so far, none of alien DNA, you have no ground to stand on. Your only chance is to claim scientific purposes and treat it as such. No evasive maneuver or argumentation will do, there will be some people watching you. You said you were honest, we will see if it is true.
JnSavedByTheBell 2 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, the skull does have 342 base pairs of nuDNA that are alien.
007hor 2 weeks ago
In Amerindian customs it is the tribe that raise the children, not only the parents. It is very common to see and uncle or an ant to take care of the young ones.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
Have you ever seen a child in pain? In constant pain? They grind their teeth. Wear on a child's teeth only explain extreme pain.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
Don't start crying, I'm not the one who made this story. Think about the life the child had and about all his pain, that's an handicapped child that you are using. Who cares,he's dead , he's been dead for 900 years and I'm a dodgy head (whatever a dodgy is) is what you'll say.
There are other children with the same disease, you paint them as aliens, add to their suffering and of their family. Nice move Pye. What if James had a big head, would you have called him an alien?
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, consider this:
The SC has wear on the teeth showing maturity was reached. At present, the age of death is unclear, but it is unlikely to have lived as long as it did if they were in fact deformities.
By saying this is a deformity, you are not explaining it, but complicating it. This is not a deformity that we have ever seen before. It has no sinuses, no inion, it has fibres in the bone and is 3 times as thin, but twice as strong as humans. These are facts.
007hor 3 weeks ago
@007hor, it would be the first deformity to actually cause no obvious hinderance to the victim. No, this being is meant to be like this.
Couple that with the intriguing DNA results and the tooth-like structure of the bone and you have something interesting.
If James had 342 nucleotide base pairs that were not in the NIH DB, I would conclude that they were alien, yes, but I doubt that he did.
007hor 3 weeks ago
@007hor, and alien does not necessarilly mean extra-terrestrial.
Dodgy is an English term meaning strange or odd.
007hor 3 weeks ago
@007hor __ You can not predict how a difformity will turn out, nobody can. There are not any norms in Hydroceplalus. This is the only hydrocephalic skull you have ever seen. Go have a look at "hydrocephalus child", not only one but thousand of them. There is nothing we can do for them but do not add to their burden. If we could do anything that could help them would be to grant them a wish before they die and not treat them as aliens.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@007hor __ My brother lived until he was fifty, even if the doctors had given him no chance to reach maturity. Few Hydrocephalic make it so painful is the disease. That he might have reached maturity probably shows that someone loved him and took care of him, could be the woman that died with him.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, and your brother was lucky to have a caring family. But you have also stated that your brother's case was not as severe as some of the starchild-like examples. If this is a deformity, it is one of the most bizarre we've ever come across. We must test this skull to get an answer, whatever that answer is.
The woman's mtDNA was from Haplogroup A, the SC from group C, but she may have been a friend or nurse of some kind I agree.
007hor 3 weeks ago
@007hor __ My brother' s difformity was not as severe because he received treatment. They installed a drain tube in his spine that had to be replaced every two years. He stayed in the hospita for eight yeras and had over ten major operations.
If that child had such a round head it was because he had no treatment. Check again "hydrocephalus child" and you will see children with heads as round and even bigger than the one you got.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, the thing is, the skull isn't round, the back is flat. The suture lines are open but show no forced expansion and the inside of the skull shows no abrasion from the fluid you mention. The outside shows no trace of cradleboarding or artificial shaping either.
I hear your point on the teeth and will bare it in mind.
I am also very sorry for your brother, but I don't think the SC is another Sarah Baartman/John Merrick situation.
007hor 3 weeks ago
@007hor __ Do I feel compassion in your words? If there is, you might have a chance to come clean. Issue a statement that you do not endorse freak shows and that you have the final proof that your SC is an alien/human hybrid beyond a shadow of a doubt. Post it with references that can verified.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, yes, there is compassion. But I am not Lloyd Pye and this isn't his channel or even his video.
I do not condone "freak shows" and I have explained why I don't feel it is that situation.
I am simply waiting for the very interesting results and I'm asking others not to be so rash in their judgements.
007hor 2 weeks ago
@007hor __ Forceps were unknown 900 years ago in native tribes.
Abrasion from cerebro-spinal fluid occurs only if there is constant movement of the head, the brain does not move on its own. Very few hydrocephalus cranium show signs of abrasion, only the vigorous ones do.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@007hor __
A flat on the back of the skull could indicate that the child spent a lot of time lying down on its back while its head was slowly ballooning. It is to be expected as the body and neck are often underdeveloped and its head being heavier than normal. I see the flat on the back of its skull as a sign of hydrocephalus.
There is no way to know if that race of alien have flat rear heads or not.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@007hor __ Expansion of the cranial box does not happen overnight but over a long period of time. The skull plates grow to accomodate the excess cerebro-spinal fluid and the suture lines are closed at all times. It is not like an eggshell that would crack under the pressure. The skull grows with the amount of abnormal fluid in the head. Growth can only be stopped by draining the fluid out of the cranium, such as with my brother, with a tube inserted in the spine.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
You are a fiction writer and that's a talent, you use it well, it is a good thing. That the story is made-up does not matter. Stories are made to be believable and you make it so, you have talent.
An artist should gets paid for his work and yours is good.Your T-shirts are great, that's good use of marketing.
I hope that once in a while you have good thoughts for the child for he is the one who brings you good fortune. Next time you hold his skull into your hands, simply tell him: "Thank You"
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, and you continue to ignore the facts.
I have been honest, given sources and been polite despite your obnoxious and ignorant rants.
It is clear to everyone who reads our exchange, that there is only one child with a dodgy head in this debate... JnSavedByTheBell.
007hor 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell The speed of light has been broken at CERN and our universe is now understood to be an electric plasma so there is alot we don't know and are wrong about.
chadwarrenonline 3 weeks ago
@chadwarrenonline The speed of light is always affected at every black hole. It is accelerated downwards and slowed down to a halt outwards. If it would not, it would escape and black holes would shine. I agree there is a lot we do not understand but we are a beginners' race and barely starting to learn. 10 000 years ago we were merely hunters-gatherers. Science is a a relatively new concept of the last few hundred years. We are the newborn babies of the universe. We haven't learned to walk yet
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, so who built the Yonaguni monument and Gobekli Tepe 10 000 years ago? Hunter/gatherers? Doubt it.
MisskJ1221 3 weeks ago
@MisskJ1221 __ The Bible has been written 3500 years ago, writing having evolved from clay to papyrus which comes from the Nile and opens in the south of the Mediteranean Sea. That's where civilisation started and we are still doing it. We moved up to Europe and made bigger tribes. Homo Sapiens conquered it all and fought each other and we are now the dominant species of this planet. There are 7 000 000 000 of us now. We started to go off planet, some of us are dreaming about stars.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@MisskJ1221 __
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@MisskJ1221 __ Gobekli Tepe is great. Just after what the Bible calls the Flood. When the ice caps melted, the oceans levels rose by 400 feet (120 meters) and overflooded into the Mediteranean Sea which was dry. Vegetation appeared around it and our ancestors which had come down from the Nile down from lake Victoria thrived in it, in this new paradise. Çatal Höyük comes after that, only 7000 years and shows how Homo Sapiens adapted to sedentarism and agriculture. That period is fascinating.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@MisskJ1221 __ It is the tribe that lived there at the time who made that. The hole area moved down into a bowl. It happens all the time. It's for the same reason, mammoth tusks at the bottom of the North Sea. The earth moves all the time, it is plastic. Tectonics, mountains grow, rifts happen, depressions forming lakes... This one is recent, probably at the end of the Wurm (Ice Age), 12000 years ago. Homo sapiens was making rock structures at that time. We still do it. We call them cathedrals.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, Like I said, you've opened a can of worms.
In coventional physics, a blackhole is where the gravitational force, which is caused by phase conjugate fractality, becomes sufficient that light can't escape. Meaning that gravity is so great, the charge is imploded. But where does it go? Perhaps it continues to accelerate through the speed of light?
007hor 3 weeks ago
@007hor __ It doesn't go anywhere What is sucked in at the bottom of a pit stays in the pit. It forrms the nucleus of the black hole which is only a big star, a collasped star. Where goes the hydrogen which is sucked into the sun?. It is compressed into helium, giving off energy and that's how the sun shines.Acceleration of light towards the center of a black hole is a physical law that can't be broken. Light can be slowed down or accelerated. The same principle applies to time.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@007hor __ It does continue to accelerate until it reaches a bi-dimensional state. Time to the square. The other side of the equation is energy over mass. That's the definition of matter. A black hole turns light into matter. E=MC2, so M=E/C2.
A implosion implies a release of the compressing charge. Once compressed into matter, it says compressed and need an outside source of energy to release it. Even if the black hole were to disintegrate it would remain matter just as helium remains helium.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, it seems you have missed the point.
Conventional physics doesn't solve infinite compression.
According to Fractal Field Theory, fractality is infinite compression solved. The golden mean ratio perfects fractality, called 'phase conjugation', and the geometry produces a non destructive compression.
But I'm not getting into this here, I was specifically debating the skull or have you no more to add on the matter? If not, I bid you a good day.
007hor 3 weeks ago
As for your Skull, we both know it is not what you say it is and I can understand your position where you can not admit to it. You have a good thing going and it must be fun to get people curious and wondering "what if". It brings you revenues, you get to travel and meet a lot of people, it even got you yacking about the state of the universe. That's all good. If what you do is not scientific, at least it is entertaining. Good luck in your future endeavors and may the force be with you.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, what exactly am I saying it is? I am looking at the evidence, you are casually dismissing it.
I am not affiliated with the project and receive zero revenue from it.
What is unscientific about what I'm doing as opposed to your approach?
007hor 3 weeks ago
@007hor __ What you are saying is that the900 years old skull of an hydrocephalic human child is an alien/human hybrid with overwhelming evidence against it.
You do make money with it, you are selling books about it and giving lectures where you ask for donations which you claim will be refunded as soon as nuclear DNA testing is done on the skull.
Unscientific is making claims without proof.
You are a fiction writer pretending to be a scientist.
Nuclear physicists do not have alien fixation
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, could you direct me to the comment in which I made that claim and also give me an example of this "ovewhealming evidence"? Pictures of your deceased sibling will not suffice I'm afraid. I do accept the NIH as reliable, unlike you.
I give no lectures therefore receive no donations.
I have never made any claim without proof.
I am a fiction writer though (screenplays), that is the only correct statement you have made.
Nuclear physicist are irrelevant here.
007hor 3 weeks ago
@007hor __ You are saying the same thing I said. Light is infinitely compressed into matter and it is non-destructive, it does not implode. Phase conjugation is like a mirror, in that it reflects incident light back towards where it came from, hence compressing the light into a single point which becomes matter That's what you said using "bigger" words. I can talk like that too but I prefer to keep it simple. The thing is that we are both saying the same thing.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, OK, this will be the last I have to add on this matter.
The geometry I have mentioned creates centripedal force. The POINT I am making is: You're not going to solve the problems you've highlighted with conventional physics, this doesn't mean they are impossible to solve.
I have stated several times that this subject is too complex for a 200 character limit to do it justice. I'm not trying to sound clever, just telling it like it is.
007hor 3 weeks ago
@007hor __ The skull. There are two skulls involved.
One is from a poor human child who suffered and died from Hydrocephalus, the other one is from a fiction writer who believes in aliens.
Lloyd Anthony Pye, aka 007hor, worked in Hollywood as a fiction screenwriter from 1975 to 1995 then turned "non-fictional" by grave-digging the deformed cranium of a human child and has been making money with it since then.
His skull is filled with alien rapists roaming the cosmos faster than light.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, ahhhh, just seen this message after I'd replied. I think this conversation is over. This infantile and ludicrous statement proves you have nothing more to offer.
But I do take it as a compliment that you feel I articulate myself on the matter as well as the theory's main proponent.
007hor 3 weeks ago
The nearest star is Sirius at four light years from earth. In the improbable chance that it is where the alien came from, it took four years for the alien to come here, impregnate "in-vitro" an earth woman and then four years to get back home. If he came from another star, then his round trip would take him even longer. What a space mission. Strut around the cosmos and get females from different planet pregnant. Delirious, except it is the deformed skull of a human child to do it.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, its not a deformity and its not a child. How much longer will you continue to ignore the evidence?
007hor 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, Basic astronomy. Sirius A&B are around 8.6LY away making them our 7th closest star/s, and Proxima Centauri is our nearest star at around 4.2 LY.
Your understanding of intervention theory is equally as bad.
007hor 3 weeks ago 4
@007hor -- Since you know how distant the stars are (easily obtainable knowledge from any stellar site) you should know how long it take to cross the void. Unless your alien travels faster than the speed of light, it will take it at least twice that time to make the trip back and forth. That means a minimum of 8,4 years in the best case scenario to come to Earth and inseminate a woman. Those aliens are not too smart and you do not sound any better than them. Aliens, get real.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, If its easily obtainable, I repeat "stop posting ill-informed nonsense".
Now we are talking about intervention theory and I have neither the time nor the inclination to get into space travel. At this point, it is irrelevant as there is so much to consider including; plasma universe, phase conjugation/fractality, string theory and recent neutrino results at the LHC.
I am trying to talk about the skull, but you keep kicking the facts into the long grass.
007hor 3 weeks ago 2
@007hor __ Irrelevant to find out how the alien got here to sire a child? Maybe if you get in contact with it, it will tell you all about the plasma universe, the phase conjugation/fractality, the string theory and the neutrino results at the LHC and more. Surely the alien knows about these things since he comes from the stars. Now is your chance to advance humanity knowledge in a big way and you say you do not have the time? It's a major priority.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, I said, "I have neither the time nor the inclination to get into space travel". This is not because it is unimportant, but it is a different topic altogether and infinitely more complex. You are trying to dismiss evidence based on the theory it may support.
"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
Now, with that in mind, back to the skull.
007hor 3 weeks ago
Ah, let's see the evidence, says 007hor. It's about time. Let's see if Lloyd Pye can find a lab willing to do testing of alien dna. Reputable scientists do not investigate fiction.
The same applies to medical professionals. No doctor on earth will discard hydrocephalus to diagnose alien impregnation, he would lose his licence. No doctor will do that to prove the arguments of a fiction writer.
Good luck in finding anybody to back up a story about rapists who travel at the speed of light.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, Several "reputable scientists" have ruled out hydrocephaly, its just you ignore it.
Are you saying if a reputable scientist is presented with something extraordinary, he should ignore it and/or cover it up to save his reputation?
Are we talking about the skull or the theory? You can't seem to differentiate.
007hor 3 weeks ago
For everyone who keeps bleating "hydrocephaly", I suggest you read the report compiled on it in relation to the SC skull before commenting. You're not the first person to suggest it.
Here is just 1 interesting fact against hydrocephaly: There are no signs of erosion on the internal surfaces of the skull, ruling out fluid between the brain and skull.
Check the rest out at:
starchildproject[dot]com/hydrocephaly[dot]htm
007hor 3 weeks ago
@007hor __ I did check it. It is full of misinformation. Hydrocephalus does not balloons the skull in all directions. Some hydro-cephalic victims have only on side of their head afflicted as in my own brother, do you want a picture? Hydrocephalus does cause flattening of the occipital, shallowing and realigning of the eye sockets, clearly visible on the skull of my own brother. Lloyd Anthony Pye is not a scientist, he is a fiction writer that uses the internet to publish his make-up story.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, you further prove that it isn't hydrocephaly. Hydrocephalic skulls tend to be asymmetrical, the SC skull has amazing symetry AND a large number of other abnormalities.
Furthermore, Pye didn't come to these conclusions in the report, it was a number of medical professionals. The report clearly states this.
I feel you are upset and feel that Lloyd Pye is disrespecting a deformed child, but it isn't a deformity and it isn't a child.
007hor 3 weeks ago
@007hor __ Hydrocephalic skulls are both symmetrical and asymmetrical, nobody can predict the shape of a difformity. I can send you pictures of both.
I question the medical professionals who never wondered how a baby with a head twice the normal size could survive a delivery. You would surely need a c-section as the baby's head would be larger than the woman's pelvis bone. Both would die from it.
Make up your mind if your starchild is human or not. If he had human dna then it is a child.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, I said "tend to be asymmetrical" and a symmetrical hydrocaphalic skull doesn't reflect the level of symmetry displayed in the SC.
Your second point only highlights the strange circumstances surrounding the skull. I'm not sure why you think that supports your claim.
My mind is made up, its partially human. The mtDNA is human but as of now, the nuDNA shows a chain of 342 base pairs having "no significant match" in the NIH DB. Some of its DNA is unique.
007hor 3 weeks ago
@007hor, but nothing changes. This isn't a deformity and it isn't a child.
007hor 3 weeks ago
You are such morons. This condition is called hydrocephalus. Cranial deformations are the result of accumulations of cerebrospinal fluid within the skull. If you want another "starchild" cranium, you can dig up my brother's corpse who lived all his life with this handicap. If you want more "aliens" like that, I can show you graves that are full of them. Bring your spaceship.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, no it isn't hydrocephalus, you're wrong. I know its only Youtube, but stop posting ill-informed nonsense.
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@007hor ...ill-informed nonsense is believing that aliens will travel thousands of light years to inseminate women then leave without a trace except for their starchild babies. Aliens are such sneaky advanced creatures. Lloyd Anthony Pye is using the skull of human child who suffered and died from hydrocephalus to draw money (donations) from believers in his pseudoscience. There are lots of information about this internet hoax. You've been had 007hor, I suggests you check it out.
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
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@JnSavedByTheBell, your comment fails to deliver when you claim; "Lloyd Anthony Pye is using the skull of human child who suffered and died from hydrocephalus".
It is not a hydrocephallic child. It isn't even a child, in fact.
Anophthalmia/Microphthalmia, Apert Syndrome, Brachycephaly, Cruzon Syndrome, Morgellons Disease, Patau Syndrome, Progeria, Trisomy 9, Hydrocephally and cradleboarding don't explain the abnormalities, nor does any combination of them.
007hor 3 weeks ago 6
@007hor "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." One tenet of science compels scientists to share their discoveries so that others may test the evidence to either corroborate or disprove factual claims. Craig Venter would be happy to quickly run DNA testing on this skull. Refusal to present evidence for one's claims equals an admission of fraud.
grubelsucht 3 weeks ago
@grubelsucht, ah, you speak on behalf of My Venter do you? Lloyd Pye is compiling evidence as we speak. The genome needs to be fully sequenced before an official claim is made. That is happening at the NIH, right now. I'm not sure why you say he is "refusing to present evidence". Most people who are following the SC know that this is ALL about providing DNA evidence. Only time will tell.
007hor 3 weeks ago
@007hor Let's see the evidence, not verbiage. Ample time for DNA studies has passed. Such analyses now can be done in days. This video was posted one year ago.
grubelsucht 3 weeks ago
@grubelsucht, the evidence and current findings are there, and they are very interesting. It takes time and money. You don't have to give any money, but at least have patience.
007hor 3 weeks ago
@grubelsucht __ Right to the point. True scientists always bring proofs before they claim theories. A fiction writer does not. No reputable laboratory will scan his hydocephalic skull for traces of alien DNA. How does he know that aliens have DNA to begin with? If humans can not procreate with chimpanzee which have 99% compatible DNA, how could an alien do it when it has none?
JnSavedByTheBell 3 weeks ago
@JnSavedByTheBell, more nonsense.
"No reputable laboratory will scan his hydocephalic skull for traces of alien DNA"
454 Life Sciences HAVE tested this skull. It has 342 base pairs of nucleotides which has no significant match on the National Institute of Health database. Some of its DNA is alien, some of it is human.
Do you even know the difference between ET and alien?
007hor 3 weeks ago
This is bullshit
TheFantasticCorndog 3 weeks ago
why? give me an example what would be 'bullshit'
pruve that it is wrong . And say me y its wrong. after u did that, i believe that it is bullshit
KillerStriche 3 weeks ago
@KillerStriche what? That wasn't even a sentence. Try learning how to type and use proper grammar and spelling, fucktard.
TheFantasticCorndog 3 weeks ago
Maybe it's Jesus.
Simplemindedgenius 4 weeks ago
Well said.
kunnai 1 month ago
heres my take. the genetic mutation if it werent alien would have killed the child shortly after birth. modern medicine is less than 100yrs old. you could not have 342 base pairs mutate and survive during that time. mutation is small and incremental based on multiple variables. it is not far fetched. to think we are alone is arrogant. to think a species 1000yrs ahead of us wouldnt have cosmic transportation. look at sumer. the first for everything. and they clearly state their gods were aliens.
PrometheusMovement 1 month ago
Ancient bones often reveal traces of disease and violence because they lived in a violent world with primitive forms of medicine. This kid had an accumulation of fluid in the skull, which would cause the anomalies mentioned here. About 100 years ago someone fraudulently made a fortune selling Piltdown man as the evolutionary "missing link." That hoax resulted in gleeful denunciations of science and evolution by another group of con men--preachers.
grubelsucht 1 month ago
@grubelsucht, so you watch a video and come to conclusions based on what? I get tired of seeing posts like this.
"This kid had an accumulation of fluid in the skull, which would cause the anomalies mentioned here"
No it wouldn't. Try again.
007hor 3 weeks ago
@007hor I did not become educated watching YouTube videos. You are drunk on religion, your only source of information.
grubelsucht 3 weeks ago
This skull is of a deformed human or other primate. The earth has never been visited by aliens and probably never will be.
Cainkane1 1 month ago
@Cainkane1 ........k
Narutovsitachi500 4 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
Probably a black Olmec from Egypt.
LabyrinthSociety 1 month ago
anyone else see that this may be a possible child that had Progeria at the time?
AudioEditorGuy 1 month ago
I can bet there's going to be good amount of Wintersun fans like me coming here. Lol.
Interesting video.
OkyDooky 1 month ago
If this is a fake... he certainly went through alot of effort to validate its falsehood!!! AhAHA!!!
Josephjoel3 1 month ago
Why won't Pye release his evidence???
Barcs 1 month ago
@Barcs, its all available on his site.
007hor 3 weeks ago
Its entirely human. You couldn't mix human and alien dna because humans and aliens even if they do exist would have evolved way differently. This is a deformed human skull with bad DNA.
Cainkane1 1 month ago
@Cainkane1 care to explain what "bad dna" is. and why would this guy risk his career to lie to people? keep an open mind, the universe is a mysterious place and whos to say that something like hes suggesting could'nt have happened
jmarshmellowman 1 month ago
@jmarshmellowman Bad DNA is deformed DNA. This is he skullof a genetically deformed human being.
Cainkane1 1 month ago
@Cainkane1 I don't believe this has anything to do with little green people from the stars, but I also know that there's no possibility for a human being to live with such a huge mutation in its DNA.
SorahKetsu 1 month ago
I believe it. And those fibers are the way it could perceive it's environment. Magnetic fields.
jetreschau 1 month ago
I mean another planet.
CitizenofTatooine 1 month ago
This video reminded me of something... Some people say that Atlanteans came to the Earth from a place called Altea....
CitizenofTatooine 1 month ago
Is it possible that this was a normal, human child overexposed to fluoride?
ByTruthImFree 1 month ago
Well, if the Genome are real! Can we revive the starchild in the future when the technology matures? I read in Physics of the Future that we will be able to revive the wolly mammoth in the future.
sheeplvl1 1 month ago
If this was real, it would be front page news. A clever fake.
conan0869 1 month ago
@conan0869 It's fake if it isn't in the news. Right. The 17 years old chinese girl who found a particle that might cure cancer is fake too, because it wans't in the papers.
SorahKetsu 1 month ago
was that sarcastic? think youl find most things you read in the media is bullshit, tricking your mind thats what there doin, u just cant see it.............(;
wompwawawomp 1 month ago
@wompwawawomp Before I even started to watch this video, I looked for every scientist related to this project, I found information about articles and other publications related to them. I also read every result, including eletroforesis results. I think you'll find out that taking english classes is really usefull, by the way, because I took more time reading this than watching the video. Most part of things you read in the media is bullshit, but you comment is only bullshit.
SorahKetsu 1 month ago
This is pure bullshit.
Josephjoel3 1 month ago
a starchild is when an E.T and a human have sex and produce supposed to be the seventh kind
lfc4lfe2009 1 month ago
a skull born of a place where no moon exists possibly stemming from the inner earth theory.
X3lfl3X 1 month ago
1.5 years later, no one cares
momothebored 1 month ago in playlist Unexplained
I'm not hostile to this theory, not in the least. I am curious, because what I had read in the Wiki was the precise opposite of what this video is saying, and that gets my interest. I'd like to know what this guy's got. But so far, I am seeing an awful lot of ways that this theory could be bogus, and I need to hear a lot more to be convinced. I feel kinda sorry for people who are this quick to believe an incomplete theory, cleverly edited together.
wheelofmasks 1 month ago
Hi Grandpa! lolz
jegej18 1 month ago
continuing...
Look up the Nazca Lines found in Peru. Ancient drawings the desert. In particular, the one that the Nazca people called "The Astronaut," which resembled features of that of the modern day depiction of aliens; big head, big eyes, tall, skinny. The head of "The Astronaut," is actually very similar to the shape of the Starchild skull. There was always a possibility for everything. It was a possibility that you were born, it could've or couldnt have happened. It's a possibility that t
spartans262013 2 months ago
The fibers that grow as a symptom of Morgellons disease grow out of soft tissue. The fibers is Starchild's skull are only in the skull. Plus Morgellons fibers are crystal like and the Starchild skull fibers are very durable and dense. And the fact the DNA testing done with the gel, shows that there were 6 attempts where no nuDNA was found in Starchild's skull, same code segment of that of the control human skull, where there was nuDNA found. So Starchild did not have DNA where a human does, but
spartans262013 2 months ago
Anyone heard of the nephilim?? if not dont worry, the people in power positions of your country have, and they are working desperately to bring them back, just as prophecy told us.. Anyone seen the morgellons fibers people have been suffering with recently do to chemtrails/deathdumps being spayed by almost every plane you see nowadays? I see a connection here.. Those with eyes see I guess,.. you Amerikkkan sheeple will be the death of the world due to your incredible lack of awareness. GOD BLESS
Dark1ne78 2 months ago
"Anyone with an understanding of basic human anatomy and that of the Greys would make the same staggering connection,” says Lloyd Pye. “They have no choice."
Brilliant archeology there Lloyd. @_@ I hope you don't run into a deformed child, you might mistake him for a space alien.
HaiDoggie 2 months ago
Pure pseudoscience bullshit. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And there's no evidence at all @__@
The SC is an abnormal human skull and DNA recovered from it establishes that it's human. @_@
HaiDoggie 2 months ago
Lack of evidence to prove this true as is at the moment, one skull is not enough. Interesting video none the less, be it utter bull shit or not.
kop4321 2 months ago
@kop4321 at least they arent trying to call it the "missing link" lol...Seriously, Aliens are alot more believeable to me ,and I am VERY God fearing.
NWONoWorldOrderNWO 1 month ago
@NWONoWorldOrderNWO outed...
PrometheusMovement 1 month ago
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loopylion586 2 months ago
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loopylion586 2 months ago
How come on Wikipedia it states the DNA of this skull was human (including the father)?
lexxypexxy 2 months ago
No significant evidence that human female can carry a baby of an unknown species to full term or as you call an "alien" or even give birth to it. You don't know the size of the baby, you don't know shape/behavior of the baby, and you don't know what kind of reactions are taking place. You can't simply say "Nature can do anything" or "DNA trumps nature" or blindly say "This is what we THINK." End of discussion.
zeroglare 2 months ago
@zeroglare Thats because no one will allow any sort of actual experimentation on what human females can and cant carry to term, in the 1930's - 1950's a Russian scientist was very close to successfully having a human female carry an ape child to term, when his results began to show promise they shut him down, ethics wont allow a country to investigate this fully, and if they did secretly they sure wouldn't be advertising the results. to you sir I say, Herpa Derpy Derp.
Theshamruck 4 weeks ago
@Theshamruck
His results didn't show any promise he tried to fertilize apes with human sperm and it didn't work ,he dried to fertilize human female with ape sperm and it didn't work,
If it doesn't work with our closest living relatives it sure won't with alien creature that is totally unrelated and is product of different evolution on other planet.
It would be like trying to crossbreed human with a squid or trying to crossbreed human and fish by masturbating in the sea
zoltan6561 4 weeks ago
Could it be possible that the skull was stretched in vinegar/acid solution as many of the Evolution-Theory so called evidence has?
PeekyBooo 2 months ago
And now????
what will happen? what is happening?
brazilpaes 2 months ago