How come people can't understand that Shaman under the influence of halucigenes couldn't see something in that vision and want to build it on the Earth thinking it was in the Spirit world..then enslaved people to make their Spirit friends happy...Why does all this have to come from outer space...Peace
This reminds me of the ancient site in Peru that was there thousands of years before the Incas. The people were called "the Cloud People" by the Asians who crossed the Bering Strait into the Americas "so-called Native Americans" when they arrived.The people were desribed as white with blue eyes. I guess it isn't politically correct to point out the many tools, human remains and temples that were already in the Americas before the "Native Americans" arrived.
What is it with all these guys? They can't even get their maths right. This is the second video where I've seen this error. Its a 12000 year old site. It was buried about 8000 BC, so its .... wait for it... been in operation for only 2000 years, not 4000 years - because a 12,000 yr old site would have been build in 10,000 BC. Sheesh.
religion doesn't have to be of the same reference we have today but could still be a motive. Personally i just find it intersting that people of that time went to such measures to make something that lasts. Perhaps the emphasis shouldn't be on religion but on society and its earliest known structure. Religion always causes conflict, as does humanity, however maybe there is something more we can learn.
I'm not sure how they age stone carvings. The stone might be 12K yrs old but how can anyone tell how old a carving is?. Also if the Biblical account of the Flood is correct then if conditions were as described then C14 conditions could have indeed altered. Surely it cannot be just a coincidence that Gobleki Tepe is in the same region as the traditional resting place in the Araarat Mountain range? I'm minded also of just how many beleif system globally go back to Nimrod, Semiramis & T for Tammuz!
Every video I watch on this is adamant in saying it is 12,000 years old. It is just another attempt to discredit Jesus Christ and free the stupid atheists to keep denying.
@atpskol1 I didn't hear the guy mention Jesus, did you? Stop trying to find a problem where there is none. Science is not for the blind believer, it's for the critical thinker.
wow ,most advanced,oldest,pre dates mesopotamia by 7000 years!!! doubled human history,19 foot pillars.Did I mention most Advanced! Not a single shred of evidence to prove any of that just a bunch of 19 foot pillars with animal carvings.Wheres the writing,or proof of anything other than speculation if it was that (ADVANCED). We uncovered an ancient zoo folks probably from the mesopotamian period.
it is very amazing.i think the history of the civilization should be written again.
and i realized that in the video (3:14) the map is wrong.Armenian border is not true.The person who did this presentation (or upload the video) should check the borders and fix the error.
it is very amazing.i think the history of the civilization should be written again.
and i realized that in the video (3:14) the map is wrong.Armenian border is not true.The person who did this presentation (or upload the video) should check the borders and fix the error.
could it be ?Noah: problems after leaving the ark: dispersal of animals dependent of humans care in cooled climate, extinction due to predators, repopulation. Animals: company, source of food and clothing. Essential to collect them in precincts, as in a second ark. Noah could have built T-pillars as could be those of the ark? T- form makes stable-solid what that holds, in contrast to the simple log. It seams people were higher-stronger then us, so more understandable megalithic constructions…
@KissesLoveKawaii Whaaat!? You mean there was never a few hundred year old dude who built a huge boat by himself to hold two of every species on earth while his loving God flooded the entire earth, killing everything and everyone on it even though there is not enough water on the planet to do so? Man, sounded like such a reasonable story..haha some people will believe anything.
@miker020790 You do know that the story of Noah's ark is older than the bible, make fun of it all you want but, the story of a great flood sometime in our ancient past is about as old as civilization itself.
I have to say that, as an archaeologist of almost 20 years, I resent the constant nonesensical "biblical" references always given for the site. The BLABBLE wasn't written for a few thousand years after this site.
It's so easy to say that 'historians are full of shit'. Their theories are based on EVIDENCE based on evidence etc. If you say that these dates are incorrect or some mystical forces played some role in building these sites then give me the evidence.
@Dzonrid How dare you come on here and use logic and reason! This is Youtube - where all conspiracy theories are true, aliens built the pyramids, Bigfoot is from Atlantis, and your average armchair tinfoil-hat wearer knows more than academics who have spent decades studying the world around them. Shame on you :P
12,000 years old and this guy belives man moved these stones without technology give me a break. I belive these civilizations were more advanced then they are given credit for i belive they could have even been more advanced than we are today. I also belive humans are much older than what we are being told .Are history needs to be re-written in my opinion.These so called historians are full of crap.
All historical content that we have, written, unwritten, discovered and uncovered is subjective to interpretation, whether it be proof or speculation we all choose to believe what rings true for oneself.
Its AFRICA. its always been africa until europeans want to divided up. there is no middle east its all africa. stop trying to steal people history, thats why you all about to die off now. cause you are 3dimensional beins. We are 4th dimensional and we recieve light codes from the gods. All masonic secrets is the AFRICAN IS YOUR FATHERS., Thats the secret to keep your father down and you can survive off his energy. but once feb 2011 comes. its over for you none melanated ppl. KARMA. lmao
wow, what a find! I think a rewrite of history is needed when you have evidence like this. Could be too much paper work eh, especially when they'll probably dig up a 12,000yr old technologically advanced culture sometime in the future.
Archeologists and scientists base their theory on subjective mediums, an unless they have a time machine, it's all guesswork. This dudes no exception.
No rerwite needed. You just have to stop being so arrogant and think you already know all that is written. And you seem to think that recorded history says the same all over the world.
Many modern people cannot accept the fact that an average human from 20 000 years ago was much smarter than them. They think daily use of teknology we dont understand is a proof of modern mans superiority. But both genetically and culturally - as a specie- WE ARE ALL GETTING STUPIDER-
I think the fact that you misinterpreted what I was trying to say is a prime example of our species getting dumber, and might I add angrier towards each other. What I said before in another respect is that none of us know exactly what our history over the last 4-60 000yrs involved, it's all based on guesswork and second hand accounts.
Not really. Its just difficult for some to prove all the connections that make them come to the understanding needed to see the full historical significance of archeological findings.
@108morris108 i totally agree there is evidance that the pyramids and stonehenge could be 12,000 years old too infact all these huge stone buildings around the world could have been built around the same time but we arent being told the truth and probabley never will be which is a crime to me cause this is our history that is being kept from us. Do you think these historians and sciencetists are lying to us? I belive they are.
For the most part I think the Scientists and Historians are well meaning and truth seeking. But they are led astray, by the same forces that rule our Politicians, our financial system, our media, our education system, and everything else.
To unearth our shadow governments and secret power bases, I think we need to look at religion and cults. But these string pullers are very secretive, and are possibly privy to many of our earth's real secrets.
Andrew Collins keeps talking about a society of hunter-gatherers, and shamans with slaves to move the stones. That's absolute nonsense.
It's also nonsense that "there was nothing else like this" in 10,500 B.C. That's precisely when the megalithic structures around the world were built, and we know that because most of the megalithic structures are star maps of the stars as they appear in the sky at precisely 10,500 B.C.
The reality of life is not in stones,but in what man has passed on to his "living" descendants.How would future man interpret the ruins of Sydney Opera House? Every stone and ancient shrine has to be turned into a mystical wonder, when we have the living reality of our forefathers in our blood, not stones, shrines, obelisks, or cave engravings.We have just carried on from where they left off, we will leave our "stones" from a world in ruins, as they did, except we will do it through nuclear war.
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brightspark495 6 days ago
How come people can't understand that Shaman under the influence of halucigenes couldn't see something in that vision and want to build it on the Earth thinking it was in the Spirit world..then enslaved people to make their Spirit friends happy...Why does all this have to come from outer space...Peace
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This reminds me of the ancient site in Peru that was there thousands of years before the Incas. The people were called "the Cloud People" by the Asians who crossed the Bering Strait into the Americas "so-called Native Americans" when they arrived.The people were desribed as white with blue eyes. I guess it isn't politically correct to point out the many tools, human remains and temples that were already in the Americas before the "Native Americans" arrived.
TheMoonandSea 1 month ago
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TheMoonandSea 1 month ago
What is it with all these guys? They can't even get their maths right. This is the second video where I've seen this error. Its a 12000 year old site. It was buried about 8000 BC, so its .... wait for it... been in operation for only 2000 years, not 4000 years - because a 12,000 yr old site would have been build in 10,000 BC. Sheesh.
grailchaser 1 month ago
religion doesn't have to be of the same reference we have today but could still be a motive. Personally i just find it intersting that people of that time went to such measures to make something that lasts. Perhaps the emphasis shouldn't be on religion but on society and its earliest known structure. Religion always causes conflict, as does humanity, however maybe there is something more we can learn.
11floatylight 1 month ago
This has absolutely nothing to do with "religion."
AkilB7 1 month ago
My gosh facts lay right in front of people and all they do is say impossible this Is not in the bible this is lies omg get real and wake up
lifeasshawn 1 month ago
I'm not sure how they age stone carvings. The stone might be 12K yrs old but how can anyone tell how old a carving is?. Also if the Biblical account of the Flood is correct then if conditions were as described then C14 conditions could have indeed altered. Surely it cannot be just a coincidence that Gobleki Tepe is in the same region as the traditional resting place in the Araarat Mountain range? I'm minded also of just how many beleif system globally go back to Nimrod, Semiramis & T for Tammuz!
JulieB12341 1 month ago
They keep pulling these numbers out of thin air.
atpskol1 2 months ago
Every video I watch on this is adamant in saying it is 12,000 years old. It is just another attempt to discredit Jesus Christ and free the stupid atheists to keep denying.
atpskol1 2 months ago
@atpskol1 I didn't hear the guy mention Jesus, did you? Stop trying to find a problem where there is none. Science is not for the blind believer, it's for the critical thinker.
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@diablos20091 There was something big happened at that time, just search 12,000 year old kirshna city on youtube
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wow ,most advanced,oldest,pre dates mesopotamia by 7000 years!!! doubled human history,19 foot pillars.Did I mention most Advanced! Not a single shred of evidence to prove any of that just a bunch of 19 foot pillars with animal carvings.Wheres the writing,or proof of anything other than speculation if it was that (ADVANCED). We uncovered an ancient zoo folks probably from the mesopotamian period.
Mesopotamian100 3 months ago
1. Seems to prove hunter/gatherers were capable of "civilization".
2. Buried? Or caved in and wind blown?We're talking Turkey here...smirk
3. Sky temple....with a roof?
4. The stones of the walls appear completely inferior to the standing stones as if added later, much later
5. Vultures and serpents oh my! And a shen ring!...oh deer!
I should watch the second half of this segment...
Blueblood1941 5 months ago
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it is very amazing.i think the history of the civilization should be written again.
and i realized that in the video (3:14) the map is wrong.Armenian border is not true.The person who did this presentation (or upload the video) should check the borders and fix the error.
Napolitano833 5 months ago
it is very amazing.i think the history of the civilization should be written again.
and i realized that in the video (3:14) the map is wrong.Armenian border is not true.The person who did this presentation (or upload the video) should check the borders and fix the error.
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robertedwardfay 6 months ago
could it be ?Noah: problems after leaving the ark: dispersal of animals dependent of humans care in cooled climate, extinction due to predators, repopulation. Animals: company, source of food and clothing. Essential to collect them in precincts, as in a second ark. Noah could have built T-pillars as could be those of the ark? T- form makes stable-solid what that holds, in contrast to the simple log. It seams people were higher-stronger then us, so more understandable megalithic constructions…
zonafrancaCSF 9 months ago
@zonafrancaCSF flood and ark never happened.
KissesLoveKawaii 7 months ago
@KissesLoveKawaii Whaaat!? You mean there was never a few hundred year old dude who built a huge boat by himself to hold two of every species on earth while his loving God flooded the entire earth, killing everything and everyone on it even though there is not enough water on the planet to do so? Man, sounded like such a reasonable story..haha some people will believe anything.
miker020790 2 months ago 4
@miker020790 You do know that the story of Noah's ark is older than the bible, make fun of it all you want but, the story of a great flood sometime in our ancient past is about as old as civilization itself.
Flynn01979 1 month ago
hmmmm, how about they are all as old as the end of the last ice age, just in different forms, places, makes, models, etc.
ethankegley 9 months ago
I have to say that, as an archaeologist of almost 20 years, I resent the constant nonesensical "biblical" references always given for the site. The BLABBLE wasn't written for a few thousand years after this site.
jbearden 1 year ago 11
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I love the fact that there are ancient digs that are starting to make the bible look like a copycat....Really...people should question more things.
missjucylucy 6 months ago
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jbearden 6 months ago
You love this "fact", regardless. Well, we use a working paradigm, and you have some "facts". Well, good.
jbearden 6 months ago
@Dzonrid You are a joker..everyone knows Bigfoot is from Pittsburg!
Nostradamis 1 year ago
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SuperBandstand 1 year ago
It's so easy to say that 'historians are full of shit'. Their theories are based on EVIDENCE based on evidence etc. If you say that these dates are incorrect or some mystical forces played some role in building these sites then give me the evidence.
Dzonrid 1 year ago
@Dzonrid How dare you come on here and use logic and reason! This is Youtube - where all conspiracy theories are true, aliens built the pyramids, Bigfoot is from Atlantis, and your average armchair tinfoil-hat wearer knows more than academics who have spent decades studying the world around them. Shame on you :P
jjobie 1 year ago
@jjobie I'm sorry. Being an asshole is my second nature. I get pleasure from stirring people's mind with facts.
Dzonrid 1 year ago
12,000 years old and this guy belives man moved these stones without technology give me a break. I belive these civilizations were more advanced then they are given credit for i belive they could have even been more advanced than we are today. I also belive humans are much older than what we are being told .Are history needs to be re-written in my opinion.These so called historians are full of crap.
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justohnny 1 year ago
forbiden history.
so many lies in this fucking world, it's utterly sickening.
BladedgeES 1 year ago 2
All historical content that we have, written, unwritten, discovered and uncovered is subjective to interpretation, whether it be proof or speculation we all choose to believe what rings true for oneself.
Whats your truth?
ikesideas 1 year ago
Its AFRICA. its always been africa until europeans want to divided up. there is no middle east its all africa. stop trying to steal people history, thats why you all about to die off now. cause you are 3dimensional beins. We are 4th dimensional and we recieve light codes from the gods. All masonic secrets is the AFRICAN IS YOUR FATHERS., Thats the secret to keep your father down and you can survive off his energy. but once feb 2011 comes. its over for you none melanated ppl. KARMA. lmao
unclepete813 1 year ago
@unclepete813
lay off the crack dewd
TghIII 1 year ago
@TghIII your mama on crack. dude.
unclepete813 1 year ago
@unclepete813 It's November 2011 and us non melanated people are still around. What does your 4 dimensional and light codes tell you about that?
hexkwondo 4 months ago
wow, what a find! I think a rewrite of history is needed when you have evidence like this. Could be too much paper work eh, especially when they'll probably dig up a 12,000yr old technologically advanced culture sometime in the future.
Archeologists and scientists base their theory on subjective mediums, an unless they have a time machine, it's all guesswork. This dudes no exception.
ikesideas 1 year ago
@ikesideas
No rerwite needed. You just have to stop being so arrogant and think you already know all that is written. And you seem to think that recorded history says the same all over the world.
Many modern people cannot accept the fact that an average human from 20 000 years ago was much smarter than them. They think daily use of teknology we dont understand is a proof of modern mans superiority. But both genetically and culturally - as a specie- WE ARE ALL GETTING STUPIDER-
Vebable 1 year ago
@Vebable
I think the fact that you misinterpreted what I was trying to say is a prime example of our species getting dumber, and might I add angrier towards each other. What I said before in another respect is that none of us know exactly what our history over the last 4-60 000yrs involved, it's all based on guesswork and second hand accounts.
ikesideas 1 year ago
@ikesideas
Not really. Its just difficult for some to prove all the connections that make them come to the understanding needed to see the full historical significance of archeological findings.
Vebable 1 year ago
urfa(edessa) is not turkey or east turkey its called KURDISTAN .Ssince turkey wasnt there there was kurdistan !!fuckking lier historian bustart
QEKI12 1 year ago
Wonder how hard the stone is?
Little mention of the huge effort required - and that applies to the covering up of it all as well.
And yes the dates ascribed in general - to the pyramids and Stonehenge - are open to dispute.
108morris108 1 year ago
@108morris108 i totally agree there is evidance that the pyramids and stonehenge could be 12,000 years old too infact all these huge stone buildings around the world could have been built around the same time but we arent being told the truth and probabley never will be which is a crime to me cause this is our history that is being kept from us. Do you think these historians and sciencetists are lying to us? I belive they are.
diablos20091 1 year ago
@diablos20091
For the most part I think the Scientists and Historians are well meaning and truth seeking. But they are led astray, by the same forces that rule our Politicians, our financial system, our media, our education system, and everything else.
To unearth our shadow governments and secret power bases, I think we need to look at religion and cults. But these string pullers are very secretive, and are possibly privy to many of our earth's real secrets.
108morris108 1 year ago
@diablos20091 There was something big happened at that time, just search 12,000 year old kirshna city on youtube...
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RabDaaBanda 3 months ago
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RabDaaBanda 3 months ago
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RabDaaBanda 3 months ago
Andrew Collins keeps talking about a society of hunter-gatherers, and shamans with slaves to move the stones. That's absolute nonsense.
It's also nonsense that "there was nothing else like this" in 10,500 B.C. That's precisely when the megalithic structures around the world were built, and we know that because most of the megalithic structures are star maps of the stars as they appear in the sky at precisely 10,500 B.C.
Get on youtube and search
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jockdoubleday 1 year ago
The reality of life is not in stones,but in what man has passed on to his "living" descendants.How would future man interpret the ruins of Sydney Opera House? Every stone and ancient shrine has to be turned into a mystical wonder, when we have the living reality of our forefathers in our blood, not stones, shrines, obelisks, or cave engravings.We have just carried on from where they left off, we will leave our "stones" from a world in ruins, as they did, except we will do it through nuclear war.
TRUEANGLO 1 year ago