7.5 Kw Gen running on water

[SmileChelseaSmile]

the day cars run on gas, the day the world ends.



[jcwhite1288]

so you can run it on water, but you need to supply the electricity from an outside source? or are you running from batt. charger -> electrolyzer -> generator -> back to batt. charger?

[Me102288]

I think this is all kind of funny, your argue'in a combustion engine cant run on a combustable fuel.. lol.. ok.. so by that theory, an engine that runs gasoline, cant run on propane, natural gas, alcohol, or .... hydrogen? (which is 10x more powerfull then any fuels I just listed) Well, guess what, we've used EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

[soapy05]

that last statement made me lol. Seeing such an ignorant person spout so much arrogant bullshit makes baby jesus cry

[NBSV1]

Yes, you can run just about anything on hydrogen. Just don't ask how long it takes or how much energy it takes to generate the hydrogen. Why don't they have hydrogen fuel cell cars? Because they don't work and are really really expensive.

[madjimms]

@NBSV1 They work just fine....... Its just a matter of producing HUGE amounts of hydrogen. Wind & solar can produce the gas day & night!

[Me102288]

@NBSV1 no they work, but very ineffecient.. last time I looked, they were up to 150 kilo's before refueling a 5 gallon liquid hydrogen tank :-\ fact is they trying to get electricity frtom hydrogen recombining with oxygen.. and its 5% effecient at best.. take hho, let theengine suck it in and instant fuel milage boost :-\

By the way, the oil companys are trying to prove our systems dont work because they want to keep making money on fossil fuels.. lol they care nothing about global warming.

[Lieon420]

have you tried it under load?

[scum525]

could you do a video on your( parallel) para hydrogen torroid awsome work solgen very entertaining vids most helpful thanks for your hard work. this kind of stuff shows us all that if we want free energy ,we must share ideas and give up the old ways of fear greed and selfish ambition great work thanks again

[pha3zme]

For those who keep randomly quoting Thermodynamics laws, go read up on U(1) Electrodynamics and Unified Field Theories. You need to study higher level physics to understand what's actually going on. Also here's a fun one. According to wikipedia, perpetual motion "commonly refers to any system that puts out more power than is put in." And everyone says THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. Funny. That's exactly what a nuclear reactor does.

[dtiydr]

@pha3zme a perpetual thingy are a gadget that put out more energy than - it needs to run - where would that energy come from? That is not a nuclear plant that is releaseing energy that is stored and is something different. If it would be the same then they would be able to run forever on the same radioactive material they inserted from day one and as far as i know they cant.

[Me102288]

@dtiydr well I dont know crap about that but I think hes got over unity and perpetual motion mixed up.

Hint, a hydrogen generator requires eg. 12 volts @ 10 amps thats 120 watts... the engine its running is turning a permanent magnet alternator that puts out 48 volts @ 60 amps (thats about 2800 watts) so 2800 - 120 is 2680 watts..so you put in 120 watts and get 2680 back..

this is the system I run. where do you get radioactive? it goes BOOM in a combustion engine just like gasoline.

[dtiydr]

"..perpetual motion "commonly refers to any system that puts out more power than is put in." And everyone says THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. Funny. That's exactly what a nuclear reactor does"

No it doesnt thats stored energy not created and thats a huge difference since you cant create energy from nothing.

Run a engine on hydrogen no problem but to get out more energy from an attached generator then the power used to make the hydrogen wont happen, but those who want to belive that i let them.

[Me102288]

@dtiydr how you figure. Understand the advance's in technology, a marine grade alternator (permanent magnet alternator) does'nt take electricity to charge an electromagnetic coil stator, output is in the 90% efficiency zone. So we've got rig of cogging, magnetic friction, and electricity req. to charge the alternator stator. lol wish I coulda seen the ppl's faces when the wright bro's proved everyone that said flight was imposible they were wrong. musta been a bittersweet "I told ya so" lol

[dtiydr]

@Me102288 There is till losses no matter what so you can never get out more then you put in, but drive a engine on hydrogen sure thats no problem at all.

"..so you put in 120 watts and get 2680 back"

Where did the 2560 W came from, thin air? You get my point here i hope.

[Me102288]

@dtiydr thin air? wtf.. its called an alternater.. you spin it and it generates power... I supose you truly dont know how much power you can really get from a 2kilowhat generater. 120 watts runs the hho generator, the little 50cc lawnmower or weed wacker spins the alternator... wow so hard to understand how a 3 part generator works? lol

[dtiydr]

@Me102288 the sad part is that you still doesnt get the point here. You cant get more energy out from anything then you put in but if you want to live in that world sure go ahead. To get out over 2KW from 120W i belive that when i see and not a crappy vid on youtube, So its obviously you that dont know anything about power so you could instead start to read on how a generator work because you seem to think that a alternator generates more electricity then it get from the motor, haha.

[Me102288]

@dtiydr ya your backwards, look up wind mills, been around for century's, we don't put any energy in, we get energy out.... so yeah we can get power from air to ... I suppose if you dont believe that either, you might as well not even try, I was pretty closed minded too before I learned how to make a generator for my first wind turbine. All I think of now is what to spin them with.

[dtiydr]

@Me102288 You still dont get the point and that suprise me a lot by now. What you saying is that if there would be an electric motor that draws 12V 10Amp and you connected this motors output axle to a generator so would the generator generate over 2000W, does that sound logical to you?! Of course not but by some reason you just dont get that, now im really out since you lack common sense.

[Me102288]

@dtiydr never seen a home made 3 phase alternater? ahhh no wonder, ppl are building 2 kilwatt wind turbines, what I was doing before I seen the hydroxy generators coming out. 2kw generator is pretty simple with the internet and information spreading so fast. no electric motor, the hydrogen gets pumped into a gasoline burning engine, the engine turns the alternater with ease, I should have put a magnet bearing on it so the only friction I have is from the air, vacuum chamber = frictionless. hmm

[Me102288]

@dtiydr your backward, perpetual MOTION is an object set in MOTION that never stops its MOTION.

if you believe that look up Permanent Magnet Alernator, and then lookup the definition of a maglev turbine. I've never seen a single cylinder engine that requires more then a hho cell can put out at 12v @15 amps..

Do your homework dude, people are making alternaters for maglev vertical axis turbines for years. They run on 40km WIND.. and some put out OVER 10kw @ 100 amps. A 50cc engine could turn it

[dtiydr]

@Me102288 The point in this discussion, at least from my part, isnt about perpetual motion since it isnt possible no matter what you say but its about where energy that doesnt exist come from. Energy exist in wind for exaple up to a certain point but over that there just isnt more wind and you cant get out more energy which you say is possible, come on! Im out of this discussion since it not possible to get you on the right track, over and out.

[TIGHTWADHERMAN]

@dtiydr What about oil // we expend around 30% of Owen energy to get gas / and other oil bass products We do same thing with coal // for electricity Also wood // to make wood gas You get the gas or energy from chemical reaction So then whats so different then water in the concept // There are hundreds of patents // on HHO

[dtiydr]

@TIGHTWADHERMAN it has nothing at ALL to do about the fact of making HHO gas or not, i could make HHO gas with ease. What it is all about is one of the basic physics laws in this case that you can never get more energy from a generator hooked up to an engine which you drive with HHO gas then the energy needed to make the HHO gas it self. - EVER! - You could say what ever you want about that but i know im 120% right and any physisist would say the same.

[TIGHTWADHERMAN]

@dtiydr Thank for your response and thoughts You are correct // How ever you are forgetting about the chemical reaction again Law of stored energy //

You get the gain from the chemical reaction Such as a Hydrogen bomb // Dynamite // The he list goes on

The Electric used is just the catalysis // to change the state of stored energy

[dtiydr]

@TIGHTWADHERMAN In this case it has nothing to to do about that. By your way of thinking you mean that you could get more energy from the HHO you create by electrolyse water then the power you put in. Does that sound logical to you? Of course not.

There isnt any stored energy in water other then by fusion of hydrogen in to helium which is FAR from electrolyse water or a nuke. More energy is always required to break the bonds then you get when you combine them by ignite the gas, due to losses.

[TIGHTWADHERMAN]

@dtiydr Well thanks again for your thoughts / Then why does it work / I know it works / There are several police departments in US using them and documented gains in fuel economy and US Government tiring demos for US military // and there are over a 100 patents world wide Several countries are planning on production / For example type in ( police running on water )

Also  Let me say this i don't sell or profit from HHo generators at all Thanks again for your input ///

[dtiydr]

@TIGHTWADHERMAN To end this discussion because i understand that it could go on forever; Ofcourse you could run an engine of HHO I havent said otherwise but its not possible to get more energy out from hydrogen and oxygen when it has been salvaged from electrolysed water then the electricity you put in to do so. The patents you mention are only for the contructions there isnt any for an perpertual machinery that produce more energy then the energy you put into it, which it should be otherwise.

[dinoalberini]

@dtiydr don't bother. You need to school them basic physics first. Or let them pay for the hoax with their own money.

[dtiydr]

@dinoalberini I did school slightly but not even that made any difference so yea its pointless. But its just "those" kind of ppl who fex say that you can get energy from thin air and its pointless to argue with them because they are never wrong in anything now matter how messed up it is. But the bad part is that other think things like this is true and that why so many ppl are stupid in this world..

[Macocio]

@pha3zme

Guess what, the energy stored in nuclear matter comes from explosions of novaes, these store energy in the actual build up(structure) of the radioactive atoms. When we put them in a nuclear plant, they simply decay faster because we bombard them, making them even more unstable. You know radioactive materials tend to release energy all the time whilsnt not being bombarded right?

We can conclude that your argument is false.

[AuroraGenerators]

More power IN then you get OUT. FAIL !!!

[fan1701]

Wow, everybody quoting the good ole 2nd law rubbish. Its outdated : see particle physics instead.

Keep working on it. Don't quite because these folks keep spouting the outdated EE model. The system will work if tuned properly. BTW (for those using them) check the Henries on your alternators phase coils . They have been sabotaged to prevent tuning......

[octelcogopod]

Okay, so you're using power from the wall to break down water (at crappy efficiency), then using the resulting hydrogen in an internal combustion motor (even crappier efficiency).

Congratulations, you demonstrated a basic law of physics. Energy input into a system cannot exceed energy output.

What's the point? Save yourself some time and open a high school physics textbook. Look up the laws of thermodynamics then think real hard about your contraption!

[Me102288]

@octelcogopod I suppose you'll wait for the fuel cell, thats so ineffecient you can only drive 150km before you gotta refuel the big hydrogen tank, that if pierced will cause a massive explosion?

The laws you refer too are old. And as we all know, those rules were made when this technology didn't exist. so you think a guy that wrote that law can see into the future?

[waterforfuel]

here..hey, just watch me and read the book, those other ass clows haven't even come close to self sustained water powered vehicle...

[thundergod989]

so if I get this right you're using a car battery charger plugged into the wall to generate hho then using that to run a generator which is putting out less than the car battery charger is using?

[jcfdillon]

looking for small container system for distilled water + electrolyte with small electricity drain from electric windshield wiper circuit, to produce HHO to add octane boost to input air/gasoline vapor mix, safely, on a Mazda 323 1994; found your video clip here and am interested in pure water plasma + water HHO fuel (Paul Kansius?) for all water car fuel system when available so thank u keep me in the email loop for news updates thanx congratulations etc.

[harryfodder]

you don't need electrolyte. read up on Stan Meyer's invention. he uses several thousand volts with mere milliamps to generate the HHO. the benefit of this, is that the oxygen & hydrogen atoms repell eachother due to their ionization charge, and therefore you don't have to worry about ingesting water into your engine.

[stephenawolfe]

Well, if I understand correctly, this setup can run indefinately, as long as a water supply is on hand. How about hooking this up to an alternator to continuously charge batteries in an electric car? Would like to see it in person.

[octelcogopod]

No, it can't run indefinitely.

There are huge losses of energy resulting from breaking down water and burning the resulting hydrogen and oxygen in an internal combustion engine. It's a stupidly inefficient system that only serves to demonstrate the second law of thermodynamics.

[TheIronStark]

You can increase the efficiency by coupling the engine with an car alternator modified by change the inside rotor coil with an permanent toroid magnets rings...

[shortyandthefuzz]

Seems a lot of work to have to do to prove the "Second Law of thermodynamics" which most of us learn at school!" You'll get a Politician to believe it though!

[chazdaspazman]

awesome very kewl = )

[bunkyda]

Ok man good work just some thoughts tho try high volts and lower amp like 15amp 200V then that cell will run your car.Nice work!

[AuntTraci]

Great Job Guys. Good Luck.

[rubyspirit2]

Awesome!

[tvryb]

smarthouse! I love it!

do they know what's coming????

hell no they don't.

[overunitydotcom]

Have you closed the loop,

so do you power all only by the used water

or do you run your battery chargers still from the grid ?

Please state this exactly over here.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[richelectronic]

I know what you mean when you mention 'regular business' being slow cuz of the economy. I'm in the same boat (sinking fast too!) Anyway, just wanted to stop & say keep up the good work & be sure to post more vids of your hho tests. I'm curious about a couple things too: 1. what is SolgenLLC? 2. did you connect the hho input to the fuel intake or the air intake?

[h2opower]

Very nice, keep up the great work, for the quest for energy independence is a worthy goal.

[57609394]

Pretty cool stuff - Alex

[UnityEnergy]

Just a thought, can always use solar power to create HHO to provide other energy.

I say this in regard to closing the gap for night time, perhaps even some storage of the gas ?

Just some ideas.

[UnityEnergy]

You are saying this is straight HHO with no gasoline running this generator?

[SolgenLLC]

No Gas

[SmartScarecrow]

love the presentation ... very nicely done ... but it appears you have not closed the loop so the quest is still on ... see you in September ...

[SANDRINX]

ok! you had a nice result!!

if you want explain if it load only generator i'll be happy...

good job,good luky