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  • @PropagandaBuster so you are saying I am from Hollywood ? I don't even live in the united states. That comment was merely saying what I would have liked to have happened to you.

  • Why do you call the people in Hollywood "pervert thespians" ?

  • @iantaylor124 - Please read the comment you left on my video: “Sea Shepherd crew application.” 

  • Oh wait its easier for you to talk shit in front of a camera at home then getting out there to help save a animal. Keep up the stupid work ass face! Your making us who help look good! I'm doing my part step up and do yours!

  • Hey dickhead. Why don't you do something about the animals that you point out are going extinct? Your fucking lazy the seasheaphards are doing their part in many places. I'm sure if they could they would go to many of the places you mentioned. But what are YOU doing? Nothing but sitting on your stupid ass talking shit. Get involved dumb ass!

  • the japs deserve to be harrased if they kill dolphins you bum

  • this guys is a dick head.

  • ummm just by definition wouldn't a propaganda buster present a balanced view from both sides sifting through propaganda and telling us the bare bones truth about both sides. Are you not by your posts and actions a propaganda creator and spreader.

  • haha fuck sea shepherds. i ate whale meat the other day, U MAD BRO?

  • @sawdudeful You know whale and dolphin meat contains high levels of mercury wich are toxins, U MAD BRO?

  • @Aurorausralis91 lol haha it never effected me yet, matter of fact non of people have yet. U MAD BRO?

  • This discussion has become waay too polarized due to bad behavior from westeners.

    I am all for the humane treatment of animals but could not disagree more with Sea shepherds' tactics.

    Check out Enson Inoue's work there in Taiji: love it!

  • Same on you and the Japanese! God Bless the Sea Shepard and ALL that support them!

  • @FinalCutSpecialFx you are completly right God Bless the Sea Shepard and ALL that support them!

  • the moral of this video is,

    If you cannot protest in favour of every animal species that is going extinct than you shouldnt protest at all.Or you will be called a coward by a retard dickhead on youtube.

  • 1970 called and wants it's sweater vest back. What a dick head.

  • HEY!! why aren't you out there fighting for the animals you mention?? Stop wasting your time hating people who are out there making a difference. The BRAVE people are out there risking their lives fighting for a good cause. You are showing your ignorance. It takes humility to be able to fight for another being other than our own species. Loudmouth people like you are what make this planet HELL.

  • wow this guy must be a hipacrit cause i now this guy in his own words "bum"!!what a A-HOLE

    Sea shepard will all win. and japan is using its earthquake funds to go and try to win a losing war that japan thinks they will win but they won't!! japan sucks!!

  • but true or false. the japanese are massacring the dolphins even though its neither integral to their economy or their diet

  • you need a dictionary. if there going to a country where some hate you, to try and get them to stop, thats not cowardly. thats brave.

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  • I neither know or care about the 'insult' or the 'desecration'. I have, however, seen The Cove, and would applaud most direct action to put an end to this annual atrocity. IMO anyone who would seek to deflect from the real "disgusting behaviour", ie the barbaric slaughter of dolphins at Taiji, either has a vested interest or is disturbingly lacking in compassion.

  • your the fucking coward!! why dont you say your bullshit to our faces!! you pathetic old fuck

  • why are they in China protesting, becasue they are really not hat ready to die what what they believe no matter what they say

    I think this post is great. keep it up man

  • And people call Japanese racist and still can't understand why they ban us from certain places in Japan.

  • It's sad to see a grown man so full of hatred. I have seen 'The Cove' more than once, and the Sea Shepard was featured for very little time. Personally, I find it sickening that you do not care about the slaughter of innocent dolphins. And if you'd like to see the fish and manatees getting more attention, perhaps you should go out and do something about it instead of ranting on Youtube in a slightly annoying accent. And you call others 'cowards'? Interesting...

  • @HaveaHearrt

    Not everyone has big cash to do that, and many have their own ways by spreading the word. Just so sorry that you have to resort to the Sacred Cow ideology for dolphins

  • @TheChoujinVirus Hey, my family has very little money and I am campaigning against animal cruelty. It doesn't take loads of cash to help save animals, just a good heart!

  • SO MUCH WIN IN THIS VIDEO THANK-YOU FOR POSTING!!!! Your so wonderful keep it up

  • Fuck you asshole I'm going to do anything I can to get you kicked off youtube.

  • Why aren't they in China protesting? Because they picked a different battle. There's about a million to pick from.

  • The hypocrisy from both sides is astounding

  • I hate the way you talk! please talk normaly!! >.<

  • im pretty sure they meant go home as go to your house(your useing your own ignorance as your point). do you know what home means? it means where you live (YOUR HOUSE not the COUNTRY you live in.)

    if they said go back to where you came from i might see what your saying. you are manipulating this whole situation. your picking and choosing that facts to suit your little video here.GO GET A FRIEND YOU MIGHT NOT BE SO BORED.

  • @FishingGuy1998

    You make Coward Sea Shepherd proud bro...... Not!!!  Good to know bunch of idiots like yourself adore Sea Shepherds.

  • @FishingGuy1998 now thats a great attitude! :D

  • @imkrimbaldur

    ah, more of "respect my views or I'll kill you". That's real childish

  • wasn't even sea shepherd you absolute fucking moron

  • The moron speaks again.

  • your the most anoying person on youtube half your vids are about how much u hate sea sheperd. sea sheperd was in the cove for about 5 mins! did u even watch it?? its clear u wish u were a japo but your from fuckin Texas!

  • @dynex300

    The most annoying are cowards like SS and other Hollyweird Clowns exploiting my culture in the condescending manner.

  • @novajoke dude even if your japanese you proly live in fuckin the states so u dont know your own culture...

  • @dynex300

    You can't seem to write. Hey do yourself a favor and get your GED. Capiche?

    Hey do you work at McDonalds? Just curious since you can't write or comprehend.

  • @novajoke thats funny bro make fun of dyslexia your such a big man eatin whales and spellin shit right. not realy a fan of arguin about this since i dont knw u so u could be a good guy. all i was sayin was i found this guys vids anoyin cus he rips on the people tryin to protect spiecies that are goin extict... and its funny i do work at mcdicks but im only 15 so its ok i think

  • @dynex300

    Hey learn how to spell capithe. Living in the ghetto aren't helping your cause bro.

    Sea Shepherds exploits uneducated, uninformed SheeeEEEeeeePPPpppppPPPs like yourself and other gullible human beings. 

  • @dynex300

    Gee Sea Shepherds sure don't like Japanese bro. They are the most annoying parasite Gaijins flocks to our beautiful country. They should mind own country's business before minding others.

  • @novajoke ive never accualy met one before just seen there show so i dont know what they do to normal ppl like u... they proly just dont show that stuff. its true our country is diff from yours but u have to admit that the way your government is trying to cover up whaling saying its research specimens every time they kill one is not right.

  • @dynex300

    "ive never accualy met one before just seen there show"

    You've meant "THEIR" instead of "there" right?? DAMN I'm not native and you can't even distinguish between "their" and "there".

    I just want to say thanks for showing your intelligence. You make Sea Shepherds and all those Hollyweird crowds very very proud "EH"!!!

    Hey we have lots of lots of Maple Leaf rejects in my country though "EH"!

  • @novajoke i have dyslexia i cant spell and im agreein with u you idiot... i just watched stuff on youtube were sea Shepards were bein assholes to fishermen. i dont agree with that. im still against whaling but its not fishermen doin that... sorry if any of this spellin is wrong i know that bugs u... im amaican too so we say huh not eh lol. where in japan do u live?

  • @dynex300

    It really doesn't bug me but it's sad that so called "native" people can't spell nor write. Nothing more... nothing less. You know if you can read, write, think in English and Japanese, it's hard to be an idiot to do that. Just sayin.......

    Tokyo, Setagaya ward

  • @novajoke all i meant when i said i hadn't met a sea shepherd before was that u were proly right about what they did because all i see of it is what they want me too on tv... were u there for the earthquake?

  • @dynex300

    Dude, please educate yourself so you can write better "EH".

  • @novajoke why are u bein such a dick??

  • @dynex300

    Am I? Really??

    Sorry "EH".

  • @novajoke dude im from the states... you know the ones that blew up half of japan back in the day... are u that dumb... i was trying to be nice admitting that i was wrong about sea shepherd but u had to keep going for some reason?? oh and just FYI your culture is known as one of the dumbest of all time. look back at ww2 half of your men killed themselves in battle because they were about to lose...

  • @dynex300

    Gee you live in Toronto, Ontario though "EH"? Now why are you BEING a dick then?

    So you are proud that America blew up Japan back in the days "EH"?

    You know SS debate is not about being right or wrong but let people in Japan make a decent living. Please note that SS Clowns are usually trust fund spoiled brats who grew up with lots of privileges because they usually have very very rich mommy and daddy to support them.

  • @dynex300

    Really?? Dumbest?

    So Islam Extremists are dumber than the Japanese then?

    Hey go to a mosque in Toronto and tell them that their religion is dumber than the Kamikaze pilots.

  • @novajoke how the fuck am i gana get to Toronto from Colorado u dumb shit

  • @dynex300

    Colorado?? Denver??

    Do you go to Vinyl, Church, Beta????

    Hey do you go to Rockies games or Rapids??

    You like Tokyo Joes?

    Hey you got lots of rain there from what I've heard.

    Hey you might want to change your profile in case you're too dense to notice.

  • @novajoke lol yeah ive been to vinyl, and im not a big fan of baseball but i go to see the Avalanche from time to time...

  • @dynex300

    Go avs! Goin 2 Global Dance at Red Rocks?

  • @novajoke

    you also know it's the internet, so typos are rampant

  • @TheChoujinVirus

    !Muchas gracias!

  • Why arnt u confronting the sea sheperd crew? Because your a coward :)

  • Do YOU you think Japan should stop killing dolphins and whales? Check out the video I made about my most recent experience with a whale. Just go to my channel/profile. You can't miss it.

  • Once again, a little fact checking goes a LONG way. the Cove is not about Sea Shepherd. That film has nothing to do with Sea Shepherd. Also, it's not just westerners who focus their energy on Taiji. There are a lot of people from Australia, New Zealand, and *gasp* evene JAPAN!

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  • I clicked the video link and proceeded to read...

    "Cove "guardians" put their ..."

    This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Tarah Millen.

    Frekking liberals.

  • @hunterziegelmann - Thanks for the information. I just located two more videos and added those links to the description and removed the old link.

  • if you think this movie is wrong, good for you. just don't pretend it's racis" or anti-japanese.

    japan has some growing up to do. it's a freedom of speech issue. if japan wants to pretend for one moment that they have a civilized society, they need to let different views be heard.

    again, if they still feel the movie is incorrect, i respect that. personally i think it's a load of bullshit myself, but don't scream or turn it into a hyper-nationalism issue.

    this is caveman shit. disappointing.

  • I saw another vid that Eco-Terrorist SS are staying in Taiji and giving Harassment with offensive and rude behavior for local fisherman. I felt this is cynical joke that they are doing harassment for HUMAN in order to serve ANIMAL. SS know that fisherman don't understand English so that any discussion is impossible. If you wanna convince locals the necessity of stop fishery、why don't you bring translator for constructive conversation? I thought it's just SS performance for making propaganda vid

  • @MrCliffy420 uMad bro?

  • because u uneducated retarded fuck they r in japan protecting dolphins u gay bastard if ur so worried about these fuckin other fish u go protect them when they say go home they mean go back to their house STOP MAKEIN YOUTUBE VIDS U GAY COCKSUCKER CUZ ILL GET UR ACCT BANNED FROM YOUTUBE HOWS THAT SOUND FAGGIT SHUT UP AND QUIT TALKIN ABOUT THINGS U KNWO NOTHING ABOUT READING A JAPANESE NEWSPAPER DONT GIVE U ALL THE FACTS ABOUT SEASHEPARDS OR ANYBODY FOR THAT MATTER U FAG GET UR SHIT STRAIGHT

  • you wondered why Sea Shepherd was not at the Faroe Islands well i found your answer THEY ARRRRRRRE. why dont you go to Sea Shepherd.org and look at the post on April 8,2011. it discusses the isles- i tried to post it but you've blocked links being posted.

  • You can say what ever you want, but the movie speaks for itself. Its not a culture if they try to keep what they do quiet. Whether you look SSCS personally or not, it will NEVER EXCUSE what they do. They are driving animals into extinction.

  • @multicolourMUSIC read your comment, then ask yourself, why they keep it quiet? I'll answer for you. It's because of people like you! People that turn a mouse into an elephant. We use to have public whale slaughter, but it turns out, it outrages people like you, that don't eat that stuff. But it seems, since then, it has never been more public, because of people filming the stuff and sending it to youtube and other places, where treehuggers, like you, rage on every video, this is why they do it.

  • Oky you

  • You are a twat.

  • I love how he thinks everyone in Japan is polite, Yes there very polite while they killed the Islanders of the Pasific. As soon as they saw them Just shot them up. Your ridiculous. You have a 9% aproval rate.

  • hmm. many people who coment this video are mind controlled by SS and that movie.

    discussing is ok. but just writing bad words are not right.

  • They're vegan pussies, your a stereotyping douche, i think you and the ss should all get together, go outside, and play hide and go fuck yourself

  • Thank you for bringing awareness to these racist idiots.

  • stfu dey r trying to save dolphins u mad stupid

  • Hello PropagandaBuster - the link you provided of "Sea Shepherd drones desecrating religious monuments in Japan" appears to be gone. Do you have another? I am very interested in this. Thanks.

  • @satomiwa - Thanks for letting me know. I just sent a request to the person who sent me the link to see if he knows of another. However I did save the photos to my hard drive. If you like, I can email them to you. If you want me to, please PM me with your email address.

  • @PropagandaBuster dolphin meat contains high quantities of mercury. That's toxic... AND THEY FEED THEIR CHILDREN WITH IT !!!!!

  • @MrRobinDP - Have you seen their children? They all looked rather healthy to me. How come their children in education far exceed many students in nations where whale and dolphin meat is not consumed? Plus how is it what all this high quantities of mercury in their food supply their longevity levels are higher than most nation. Japan’s life expectancy ranks number 1, while Belgium is 20th, and the USA which is free of whale and dolphin meat ranks 34!

  • @PropagandaBuster What does all of that got to do with anything???

    "They look rather healthy"???? Yeah you just busted all the scientific research done on dolphins....

  • @MrRobinDP - I guess you are correct what does inserting facts into an emotional argument have “to do with anything.” I should have known better than to try ration vs. emotion.

  • YOU ARE A STURGEON!!!

  • You should be forced to live in a saltwater pool and perform pointless acrobatics in front of a crowd of retards, who have brought their retarded offspring with them.

    You jap loving ashole. Fuck the people of Taiji, they deserve to be harrassed. I hope the wind from Fukushima blows their direction.

  • The sea shephard are trying to save thousands of innocent animals. The whole tsunami thing was the oceans way of telling you to fuck off! So many thousands of innocent people lost their lives because that disaster when it should have been you and the bastard fishermen who died! Karmas a bitch mate and believe me when I say it will catch up with you.

  • youre time will come cunt keep an eye out eh

  • ugly retard bastard

  • u r a idiot, DROP DEAD!!! lol

  • i didn't know dolphin has throat!!!

  • I use to like your videos until I see that you are not against the dolphin slaughter. They are not fish. They are smart affectionate self aware loving animals. They lure them by their trust under the pretense of playing only to get their throats cut. These are smart animals! They've saved humans from sharks. It's out duty to protect them as well. YOU ARE SO WRONG and I no longer respect anything you say. SICK BASTARD!!!

  • One could argue that the cove guardians mission is a humanitarian mission because all the mercury in dolphins can cause mercury poisoning.

  • Thumbs up to dislike this disgusting loser.

  • @glennfabian notice that i thumbed your comment down

  • Aww, this poor guy is obviously has a learning disability to go with his speech impediment - does not even realise "go home" = "go to your house". His carer should take away his internet access and dope him up :-(

  • This dude just love to talk shit. He is troll

  • sea shepherd is just a terrorist.

  • Loser. Your 'evidence' videos don't work. Go to hell

  • The guy in this video is an idiot. He really seems to be so in love with his own annoying voice and i want to harpoon him just for wearing that V-neck tank top!

  • Captain retard has spooken! Have u ever been close to water? Den här lilla lilla bögkaptenen sitter i sitt lilla hobbyrum någonstans i sydstaterna och gaggar om något han inte har någon koll på. Om han skulle dyka upp inom Sveriges gränser ska jag personligen slakta honom "Whalestyle"

  • Exactly!!!

  • You are an idiot.

    I cannot tell if this video is a joke or you are just that stupid.

  • watch this and see the shameful harassment of sea shepherd in taiji...

    /watch?v=QUcfAyTTFd0&feature=p­layer_embedded#at=162

  • @mattysnailboy Yeah. Those idiots from Sea Shepherd are so annoying that it is even painful to watch. I can't even watch the whole thing. I get a physical reaction and so disgusted I cant even listen to more than 2 minutes at a time. I still haven't seen the whole vid and I knew about it months ago. No wonder it is so difficult to have a reasonable discussion with a Japanese about a more reasonable solution. After harassment like that I wouldn't want to talk to anyone.

  • @rosepetal108 - Amen to that!

  • @rosepetal108

    I'm glad that some people understands. I saw some Japanese documentary that are completely unbiased, showing how the so-called "save the whales" campaign by the sea shepherd turned out to be some nasty caucasians intruding to Japan, violating international law, filming both ordinary japanese citizens and fishermen as killers, and calling them "Losers" in the process. Its true that Sea Shepherd is difficult to deal with but I would like generous people like you to spread the truth

  • @HighVoice123 Don't get me wrong. I am a conservationist. There is a lot that Japan needs to do to enter the modern world and help conserve the oceans. Many old policies like the "dolphin pest control" policy are wrong.

    However, the harassment by the Sea Shepherds is NOT the solution. In fact it only raises tensions and reduces the chances for real change. Being Rude is seldom beneficial no matter the culture, but especially to the Japanese culture, rude is taboo and pointless.

  • I would "harass" someone too if they were pushing me and trying to stop me from filming something when you're on public land... By the way I can guarantee you that any dolphin is smarter than you. They are also insanely dangerous to eat, they have high levels of mercury that cause birth defects and many other problems. And technically Sea Shepherds aren't stopping the whaling in Japan... They're in the Antarctic where it's actually illegal to whale.

  • @CalinCollective This is very biased. The mercury levels of some dolphins is high, but these are primarily killed as "pest control". Dolphins are very intelligent animals but not as intelligent as a human in most respects. The regulations IWC set for the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary are being violated, however Japan has used loopholes and procedural rules to avoid having these regulations apply to them. Finally the "harassment", right or wrong, started with the SSCS.

  • @rosepetal108

    I let you smoke cigarettes although cigarettes are bad for your health.

    the mercury thing is just an excuse,

    SS should blame hungers for hunting innocent animals just for fun 

  • @tenacioustaut ===> "the mercury thing is just an excuse,"

    Mercury is a real problem but you are right, SSCS just use it as an excuse. Japan knows about mercury.

    That is why I said, "these are primarily killed as "pest control"". Dolphins with toxic levels of mercury are seldom eaten. Most are used for other purposes. Although a few have gotten past Japanese inspectors and entered the Japanese food system, most are not. Japan encourages the hunt on the theory that less dolphins = more fish

  • @rosepetal108

    That is not the case.

    People in Taiji who are SUPPOSED TO BE ILL are not sick at all.

  • @rosepetal108

    They would oppose eating dolphins even if they grew dolphins in a pool where there is no mercury.

    The fact is that Taiji people are in shape.

  • @tenacioustaut Continued: This theory that less dolphins = more fish is the basic problem with Japans dolphin hunt. It is not science. This is why I stated, "ignorance is not science. What you call science is far more likely to harm fisheries than actually improve them."

    There is more and more scientific evidence every year showing dolphins and fish have a mutualistic facultative symbiotic relationship. That is a fancy way of saying more dolphins = more fish.

  • @rosepetal108

    Where is "scientifc evidence" that Taiji people are sick? lol

  • @rosepetal108

    When did SS tell the world to stop smoking cigaretees majjiruanwa, and dangerous drugs?

    Did they ever go to those who are on drugs to stop them?

    Keep in mind that they do things to RISK THE LIVES OF JAPANESE WHALERS LOL

  • @rosepetal108

    Let us grow dolphins in a pool and feed them food that does not contain mercury at all

    and eat the dolphins.

    You will see that they are full of shit LOL

  • @tenacioustaut hahahahahahaha Maybe the translation is poor, but like I said Japan knows about mercury and tests the meat. When toxic levels are found the meat doesn't pass inspection. (in most cases, everyone makes mistakes from time to time)

    You are right that SSCS uses it as an excuse.

    My point is very different though, (and I am NOT SSCS Vegan) The policy of culling Dolphins as "pest control" needs to be investigated closer. In many cases this may have the opposite affect intended.

  • @rosepetal108

    lol

    name a person who is sick because of eating dolphines

    Keep on being ignorant 

  • @tenacioustaut Ever hear of Minamata disease? There were 2 major outbreaks in Japan caused by eating sea food from contaminated waters.This form of mercury poisoning caused more than 2000 officially recognized cases of which nearly all either died or are permanent cripples with non treatable brain and nerve damage. 10,000 + more unofficial cases.

    Concentrations are highest in shell fish and top predators in a marine environment, but also in other fish.

  • @rosepetal108

    yeah SS fabricated it in the movie the COVE

    the mercury of dolphins has nothing to do with the Minamata

    They made it look like dolphins being related to Minamata

  • @rosepetal108

    Dont be fooled by SS and the movie the COVE.

    They fabricated so many facts in the movie the COve

    Stupid people in the world have been fooled by the movi the COVE so naiively that the movie won 23 titles

  • @rosepetal108

    It is like saying that X ray inspection is as bad as Hiroshima and Nagasaki radioactive contamination.

    Dont be fooled by SS

  • @tenacioustaut Oh believe me. I fully understand the cove is a propaganda movie. I even know of several out right lies from the movie. However, mercury poisoning is no joke. It is not something to play games with. It can be quite deadly. It is also very common in many types of seafood especially top predators. Depending on species it can be as much as 20-30 times higher than Japans own health ministry recommends.

    ex: Harbor porpoise is low while bottlenose dolphin are high.

  • @rosepetal108

    although they ve been eating dolphins for thousands of years, they are in shape.

    Name a Taiji person who has been suffering as much as Minamata victims.

  • @tenacioustaut The people of Minamata and Niigata are extreme cases to be sure. However, they are from eating mercury bioaccumulated sea food. Since some species of whales and dolphins (not all) also bioaccumulate mercury, there is a very real danger of eating to much mercury if not very careful.

    I don't personally know anyone from Taiji who was damaged by mercury poisoning. However pretending it isn't an issue is really foolish. It is a top pollution concern in Japan (and other nations)

  • @rosepetal108

    If you claim that that amount of mercury could be harmful, you should do some research on Taiji people.

  • @rosepetal108

    mercury gets out of your body even if you get it from dolphins.

    The mercury in dolphins is not that much.

  • The Japanese have cut short the season, the fleet is heading to port, sources in Tokyo say. The sudden departure has raised hopes Japan may be moving to end its widely opposed, 23-year-old "scientific research" program, which has killed 10,000 Antarctic whales.

    The factory ship, Nisshin Maru, is steaming to Drake Passage, South America, pursued by Sea Shepherd's Bob Barker, having left whaling grounds 2,000 nautical miles behind.

    So Tony... sucked in you are now unemployed. LOL

  • Ok man youre boring me. Just shut up. Obviously you cant see the point of what theyre doing if you have to make a video of you bitching. There is NO POINT in slaughtering dolphins for food if theyre loaded with high levels of mercury. That makes them POISONUS, dipwhad.

  • Dude, if you were eating poisonous food and the FDA wuld not let you know, you don't want someone from the outside to let you know ? foolish you are..and ridiculous is your speach...

    You are just being ignorantely ridiculous...

    No one said these dolphins would become instinct, you are missing all the main points...

    WASTE OF TIME...just a provocative conservative..lmao

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  • I, too, want to see a day where hunting & animal captivity is phased out from society. However, I don't see a way where this could happen with a conversation like this:

    --"A sudden ban on these hunts would displace a bunch of families. Do you have ideas on how to deal with this?"

    -- "No I don't, but did you know that ~(brings up a bunch of trivia that has nothing to do with the convo) Dolphins have as much right as these families do. I read on the internet that~(more trivia)"

    this+SS=NO HOPE

  • @kwanzalimited "A sudden ban on these hunts would displace a bunch of families. Do you have ideas on how to deal with this" Yes I do. The first thing that should happen is the fishermen and whalers and their ships should be hired by ICR (govt sponsored if necessary) to help in restoring the Health and Balance of the oceans. Especially around Japan. This insures Japans food supply to the future. Thus it is critical national importance for Japan.

    Killing dolphins as "pest control" is wrong!

  • @rosepetal108 Thank you for the thoughtful answer; it's really refreshing to see someone with a non-demonizing, objective point of view. Coming up with realistic suggestions like these and presenting concrete data/evidence that the "pest control" argument is total BS to the IWC/Japanese gov't would be about 10 million times more effective than what SS is doing right now. As long as level-headed people like you are around, there IS hope.

  • @kwanzalimited A similar situation happened in the USA. Years ago wolves were exterminated from the lower 48 states. (all but Alaska) Since then wolves were reintroduced into Yellowstone National park. Both the wolves and the elk and bison started flourishing better! Now there are more of all these species once the balance was restored! It worked so well red wolves (eastern subspecies) were reintroduced into the Carolinas! Other wolf populations return naturally to states like Michigan.

  • @rosepetal108 --the cost of relocating huge mammals in the ocean

    --the knee-jerk reaction to western values being imposed on them, which is made worse by the language barrier and self righteous/condescending 'tude (on behalf of some ignorant, smug protesters)

    --the first impression made by SS regarding this issue (smoke-bombs and the AdyGil collision) have lumped all people against the hunt into one "eco-terrorist" group. this results in hyper-defensive reaction from the japanese

  • @kwanzalimited ==========> --the cost of relocating huge mammals in the ocean

    The cost of not relocating or finding some viable solution may be higher. Genetic bottlenecks in some very critically endangered populations may cause them to continue to decline even without hunting.

    Japan is the inventor of the drive hunt. It is possible (if they try hard enough) that there may be a possible way to modify the drive hunt into a drive relocation at a reasonable cost.

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  • @rosepetal108 forgive me if I'm playing devil's advocate a little TOO convincingly :P I'm Japanese-Canadian and I hang out alot on japanese sites so I see their point of view too. I was born and bred in Canada so I tend to side with "whaling is/should be obsolete" though. Most of all though, I think Japan is picking the wrong battle when it comes to this issue. In an ideal world, they'd see that they'll benefit in soooo many ways if they'd go with what you're suggesting *sigh*

  • @kwanzalimited -"self righteous/condescending 'tude (on behalf of some ignorant, smug protesters)"

    The protesting and the negative reaction to it would be dramatically be reduced if Japan was seen as a leader in conservation attempts to restore the ecology of the oceans. Some radicals may still protest. It is their right. But the vast majority of world opinion would dramatically shift in favor of the Japanese.

  • @rosepetal108 I should have organized the below points in order.What I wanted to show were roadblocks getting in the way of having a meaningful,productive discussion with Japan to convince them to ease their grip on this practice It might be a chicken/egg type of argument, but acting out physically(a la SS)and accusing these people of getting some perverse sexual enjoyment out of killing dolphins and beating & cutting their wives(check out "Our Encounter with Dolphin Molesters")is NOT the way

  • @rosepetal108 --they see no difference in hunting for game animals. like native indian cultures, there's a ritualistic manner to the hunt. it's a complex paradox of seeing the animals purely as prey to be hunted and not to be sympathised with, while also showing deep respect for the prey and the sustenance it provides (which results in an almost religious, ritual-like festivity and monuments).

    --in this economy, parting with such a large source of income would be like getting off of crack

  • @kwanzalimited "--in this economy, parting with such a large source of income would be like getting off of crack"

    1)Part of the cost would be offset by employing out of work whalers and fishermen. Increased employment causes a boost to the economy.

    2)Another long term cost offset is by restoring the balance of oceans ecology, it allows higher sustainable harvests of fisheries (if done wisely)

    3)Other nations may also help when involving pelagic species that frequent their waters as well.

  • @kwanzalimited "Dolphins have as much right as these families do."

    Dolphins are not humans. They don't have "rights" like some sort of higher spiritual "sentient being".

    However:

    Dolphins are not "pests" either. They are highly intelligent animals that are very crucial in the balance of the ocean ecosystems. Many species of fish birds and other cetaceans depend on dolphins ability to tightly pack bait balls (sardines anchovies pilchards herring etc)

  • @kwanzalimited "Do you have ideas on how to deal with this?"

    I have a lot of ideas actually. Some may work and others may not. Further study is needed. Experimental test cases may need to be done. Displaced Japanese fisherman and whalers may be able to help.

    Example: Instead of killing dolphins as pests it may be possible to relocate them into the areas Japan (and others) foolishly exterminated them. (like Iki) Certain populations of whales may also benefit from relocations from high pop areas

  • See the sad part is Japan purposely kills 12,000 dolphins a year thinking that will increase fish stocks in the wild. In truth their hunting of dolphins is probably a significant part of the reason fish stocks like tuna and yellowtail continue to collapse.

    In general more dolphin means more fish since many species work as a team with dolphins to catch bait fish like sardines, anchovies, herring, pilchards etc...

  • @rosepetal108 Is that really their thinking or is that their excuse.

  • @sohcsarewicked Yes they honestly believe they are "balancing" nature. I have debated many Japanese that believe in all honesty that they must kill excess dolphins as "pest control" because dolphins eat fish and that dolphins eat the fish Japan needs for survival due to their large size. They have also declared Minke "cockroaches of the sea". Believe it or not it has been claimed by many Japanese that Minke must be killed to allow Blue, Fin, Sei and other whales to recover.

  • @sohcsarewicked In the ocean, part of the predator prey equation is energy expended to catch food. Dolphins being highly intelligent can form the bait in tight balls. Tuna, Yellowtail, Marlin and others can do this too but using far more energy. However that is not all. It seems Tuna and other fish can pull a loose ball up from the shoal within the reach of the dolphin. (who then pack it tighter and to the surface) Meanwhile seabirds also help the team from above.