Muslim/Mormon Comaparrison and why I choose Christ

[whatsitsay]

Jesus is God,also the Son of God when he came in the flesh,and also the Holy Spirit when he acended to heaven.Its in the bible.

[etch8989]

You're incredibly ignorent. WHY YOU CHOSE CHRIST! - Because you happened to be in America, and therefore happened to brought up into the christian faith. If you were born in India, you'd be a hindu, if you were born in the middle east you'd be a muslim, if you were born in ancient Greece you'd believe in Thor. You did not choose christianity, you were indoctrinated into it from a young age.

[donfishmaster]

Amazing. You claim Mormons "totally discount" the New Testament, but when push-comes-to-shove with christians they inevitably end up discounting most of the old testament except the parts they don't want to discount. This kind of puts a dent in the bible being the "perfect, inerrant words of god." You shouldn't be able to pick-and-choose which parts of something that is "perfect and inerrant" you want to refer to as metaphor and which you want to embrace as truths.

[RadiantIslam]

Sigh, Jesus was the Messiah in Islam.. And we also believe in the second coming of Jesus....

[aalsuwaidi2010]

Mormonism -> minority in world

Islam -> majority in world

[gudevl]

Please do your research before giving your thoughts and spreading lies, Muslims believe Jesus as the messiah and believe in his second coming not first coming.either u r ignorant of this or trying to prove your argument right.

[faro0485]

"A christian makes christ God"... you make him God? I hope you're not teaching your children that satan claws comes and gives them presents instead of God.

[faro0485]

Did you know that the Catholics used to say those people who follow Muhammad as a prophet, they are false christian heretics.

[faro0485]

Herodian Pharisee Paul... Jesus warned against such a person in Mark 8:15.

[faro0485]

Jesus is not Semitic Hercules.

[edspeshal]

Jesus is The SON of God...he's not God himself...i hate when silly folks twist up the Word with ignorance... God is God (Jesus father)...Jesus is the Son of God....God is GREATER than Jesus (even though JESUS great) so they can't be the exact same.. as Paul said in 1 corinthians 15:28 (then shall the SON also himself be Subject unto HIM (GOD) which put all things under HIM (JESUS) duhhh so quit caliing Jesus GOD....

[tetetakneea]

@edspeshal And quit calling yourself Christian... :) Because Branches of Christianity believe in the trinity

[GS212301]

@tetetakneea

1+1+1=1?

the Qur'an teaches that Jesus was a powerful prophet of God. Islam follows the Abrahamic belief that God is ONE and Jesus was sent by God as a powerful prophet you performed miracles by the permission of God.

[CaptainArrrgh]

@edspeshal If you were right, that encounter Saul had with Jesus would have included a slightly different conversation. Whenever an angel was mistaken for God, they would correct the person.  Saul said "who art thou, LORD?" and he replied "I AM Jesus, whom thou persecutest"

[chanses2]

@edspeshal You get things out of context, and don't see the whole perspective of what the Bible tells about Jesus.

And Jesus Christ asks his Father (God):

"And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began."(John 17:5).

"I tell you the truth, before Abraham was born, I am!"(John 8:58)

Jesus is God, as he tells it himself when saying "I am" this is the name God gave Moses: This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.

[chanses2]

@edspeshal Why can't you read all the words on Jesus Christ instead of chosing something that suits your own thoughts?

Do read Philippians 2:5-11

"In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;

rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.

Add these Titus 2:10-14; John 8:58, 10:30, 17:5

[WordMinistry]

@edspeshal... are you saying that Mormonism is "polytheism" ???

[LDSfaithDefender]

@vanillasunshyne Joseph Smith did rewrite the Bible under divine inspiration. I will send its link to you through a personal message when I have time, though there is evidence that before he was murdered, he was still continung to make modifications. Had he lived on, his rewrite would have been more complete.

Here's an example of that rewrite. According to it, Jesus didn't say "Blessed are the poor in spirit" but "Blessed are the poor in spirit who come to me."

[LDSfaithDefender]

@vanillasunshyne Then how come the God of the Old Testament said he had been fathered by God? Proverbs 8:22: "The LORD created me the first of his works long ago, before all else that he made." That's in "The Revised English Bible", 1989. Some other English translations say "fathered" instead of "created" for that verse. If there's only God, how come God said he had been fathered by God?

Mormons pray to only one God: they pray to the Father in the name of the Son

[LDSfaithDefender]

@vanillasunshyne 3. A passage in the Book of Mormon says "I am Jesus Christ the Son of God. I created the heavens and the earth, and all things that in them are. I was with the Father from the beginning..." Did he say he was God there? He didn't. 4. Another passage says "I am the God of Israel, and the God of the whole earth, and have been slain for the sins of the world." There, Jesus meant that he was the God of the Old Testament

In other words,there are 2 gods indeed—and 3 with the Holy Ghost

[LDSfaithDefender]

@vanillasunshyne 1. No, in Mormonism, Jesus was the God of the Old Testament before his incarnation, the very being who spoke to Moses on Mount Horeb. But God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ are really 2 seperate persons. 2. The Book of Mormon is not the only canonized book of Momonism: there are 2 more. Their names are "The Pearl of Great Price" and "Doctrine and Covenants." Those 2 books give you additional information not contained in the book of Mormon

[LDSfaithDefender]

@vanillasunshyne I know that; I mean, I know that Mormon Scripture reveals Jesus, God and the Holy Ghost to be 3 seperate persons with the same goal. I already posted a video on that.

[LOVELIFETRUTH]

No mem no Angel Gabriel nevr came to mohammad he made it up.

[deeqable]

your version of jesus in the bible thought the earth was flat. in your bible there are a lot of discrepancies and contradictions. have you seen how allah had stricken with lightening on touchstone jesus then caught on fire. that is prove that jesus is not god. by the way you sound like 16 to me and still virgin. have you tried a mormon guy/muslim there are nice tooo

[zionchild83]

Are you in the locker room??? go take a shower and wash this GARBAGE out of your head. to all the KIDS out there STAY IN SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S what was your grade in this little history project ????

[LDSfaithDefender]

the testimony given in the vid "Near-death experience - Meets God" was that of a man who had experienced death, gone to heaven, and then met both Jesus and God. Just listen to his testimony and you'll see if Jesus and God are one and the same person

That testimony was authenticated for me by someone else, someone who specializes in near-death experience and is able to tell if someone is lying or not

[lolitaphile]

Mormonism doesn't have any story of an angel coming to preach another gospel! all it has is the story of an angel revealing the existence of a book confirming the divinity of Jesus: period!

as for Islam, the revelations contained in it didn't even come from an angel: they came from the Devil masquerading as the angel Gabriel

[LDSfaithDefender]

this shows how stupid you are

In Mormon Scriptures, Jesus was the God of the Old Testament before His incarnation. But the God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ are 2 separate persons, and Jesus really is the Son of God

The belief that Jesus and God are one and the same person was invented by a council that convened in 325 and said, "We're gonna make up the Trinity doctrine and lie to the world that it came from God"

Just listen to the testimony in the vid "Near-death experiences - Meets God"

[OneFabFisher]

@LDSfaithDefender - I have been reading your comments on all the other vids and it is clear to me that you have an agenda to smear the truth of Jesus Christ. You chose the "LDS" because they support the anti-christ spirit u subscribe to. In all your comments you have painted a clear picture of your agenda here on youtube and that is to discredit truth and plant the seeds of doubt - the same doubt that resides w/in you. You have a hatred for the Holy Bible and the trinity and the truth.

[FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7]

it's "islam", not muslim.

[wmarcus1203]

You are highly misinformed on the beliefs of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Our father in heaven has blessed us with personal revelation through the Holy Ghost. I challenge you to actually read The Book of Mormon and pray and ask God if its true.

[AnonEmouseMan]

You do realize that Paul was converted by a vision from God don't you? And that like Paul Joseph Smith saw Jesus Christ?

Prophets throughout history as recorded in the Bible, have seen Angels. The Virgin Mary saw an Angel... therefor she is wrong, a heretic, worthy of death?

Jesus Christ proclaimed against the scribes and the Pharisees. The Scribes and Pharisees spoke exactly like you did, and justified their crucifixion of Jesus Christ on the same basis that you reject Jesus Christ's Church.

[rajeshchristopher]

Praise the Lord! continue your good work for the LORD!

[digga115]

@pattonboats disprove her then. :-)

[SupremeAmerican]

@pattonboats Correct, the muslims say there is a Dajjal, a deceiver, the christians refer to it as an anti-christ, and a deceiver. Same thing.

[LessthanJake14]

Uhhhhh, are you really suggesting that such intangible differences make them identical? Christianity and Islam are totally polar opposites! Not in 'facts', but in teaching. The whole of Christianity and Islam boils down to Aristotle-ism and Platonism. Their philosophies placed value in the complete opposite concepts (Aristotle for the empirical world and Plato in the 'spiritual' world). Aristotle is mainly Islam and Platonism IS Christianity, near enough. The beliefs on Christ are irrelevant.

[ndjarnag]

Thanks for the video. You mentioned you believe in the bible. What you think about: Adam and Eve, Garden of Eden, Noah's flood? Do you take these events as factual or allegory?

[Albertwesker721]

Simply put, All the other religions are wrong because Jesus warned us of false religions and false prophets. Also, Who would you trust your soul to, a regular human who claims to be a prophet(muslim) or Christ who died and came back to life and NEVER did anything wrong and did all sorts of miracles and brought Lazarus back from the dead. Lets get real people. All other religions are distractions and creations of Satan. Satan wants you away from Christ. Christ is the ONLY way to heaven.

[Killuminati911]

@Albertwesker721 Satan does not excist

[MaleSingleChristian]

@Killuminati911 learn how to talk thanks

those who deny there is a satan deny Christ.

[Killuminati911]

@MaleSingleChristian Yes god was made by man

next your gonna tell me god created the universe and aids and cancer and earthquakes and tsunami`s and made our bodies with mistakes tailbones the sun thats slowly dies the andromada galaxy that is going to collapse within 3 billion years with the milkyway the sun that give you cancer if you bath to long in it not to mention all the deadly radiation thats in the universe

if thats rigth god just want to enjoy himself watching us suffer.

[tsimms2000]

stick to making videos on strech marks and dumb shit like that

[tsimms2000]

you should watch dr. zakir naik, hes not a preacher nor does he claim to be a professor. If you watch his debates you will see he knows more about the bible and true christianity than most. he points out simple facts that bring truth and light to ignorant people who rant and misquote things out of context.

[tsimms2000]

u know nothing about islam'

muslim do believe juses will return

you never read the koran you know nothing

the internet is a good source for false info wow.

if you dont know what your talking about then shut up

full of lies misguidence and ignorance.

[MaleSingleChristian]

@tsimms2000 Your full of lies and full of your self demon dweller you dwell with in the antichrist you are for the antichrist and you well be decieved repent or you well through your self to the path of all unrighteousness and then more you dwell there the more you invite demons at your side to tell you there mischief.

[strats4life1]

Mormons do not put their modern day prophet above christ. certainly they don't believe he is god. They believe the book of mormon to be equal to the bible, not greater than. They believe christ is the ONLY way to salvation just as other christians. They believe the angel taught Joseph Smith the same gospel Jesus taught which has been proven to be distorted by man because of all the different sects started by MEN. Please only use arguments based on facts or scripture.

[salahamahdi]

In Islam we believe that Jesus son of Mary is the True Messiah and we believe in his 2nd coming.

Jesus preached the message of monotheism. God clarified in the Quran that Jesus was not crucified; rather, it was made to seem that way to the Jews, and that God raised him to the Heavens.

They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but (another) was made to resemble him to them (Quran 4:157)

God lifted him up to His presence. God is Almighty, All-Wise. (Quran 4:158)

[mastoon]

Well explained man, The word of Truth is not hard to get Its just you need to change your mind set After ward God will let your soul rest Quit turning away truth of faith on three different bets The Father, The son and the holy spirit There is only one God and he will let your mind rest

Peace

[chanses2]

@salahamahdi

"And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began."(John 17:5).

"I tell you the truth, before Abraham was born, I am!"(John 8:58)

"In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness." Philippians.2

[salahamahdi]

You should watch "The Divine book" by YouTuber Noreagaaa

[esam10]

also we believe that jesus will return and will rule the world with peace and jesus will kill anti christ

[esam10]

just wanted to correct what u just mentioned , we muslims do belive that jesus was a massaiah , u said we dont , yes we do , and believe that he will return

[JNiina]

You said that it says in the Bible that if an angel comes to you with another gospel, let him be eternally condemned. Could you write where in the Bible it is? You probably said it in the vid but since im not english, i didnt catch it... Id appreciate if you could do that. Thank you!

[tetetakneea]

Galatians 1:8 :) THANKS!

[digga115]

@tetetakneea oooh don't forget about 2 corinthians 11:4 and 2 corinthians 11:14.

[stratoleft]

2 John 1:7) For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

1 John 2:22) ¶ Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

[stratoleft]

Thanks for posting this video. It sure is a relief from watching atheists talking about themselves.

[Salem838]

And here what God says about dealing with the previous religions. He is surely not saying fight anyone who is not Muslim:

"SAY: O people of the Book! come ye to a just judgment between us and you - That we worship not aught but God, and that we join no other god with Him, and that the one of us take not the other for lords, beside God. Then if they turn their backs, SAY: Bear ye witness that we are Muslims." The Quran - Family of Al Imran 3:64

[Salem838]

Here what God says in the Quran about Jesus Christ:

"Remember when the angel said, "O Mary! Verily God announceth to thee the Word from Him: His name shall be, Messiah Jesus the son of Mary, illustrious in this world, and in the next, and one of those who have near access to God;" The Quran - Family of Al Imran 3:45

[Salem838]

I want to explain more when it comes to Jesus and the Quran:

The only Messiah mentioned in the Quran is Jesus Christ son of Mary. There is no mention of Anti-Christ or Imam Mahdi. I think these two are mentioned in prophet sayings but I don't know about how accurate the sayings are or what they say actually.

[calamazue1989]

Jehovah's witnesses also believe Jehovah and Christ are separate beings . Mormons or Latter-day Saints are indeed Christians. In fact the official name of the Mormon church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The Prophet Joseph Smith explained that Jesus Christ is the central figure in the doctrine of the Mormon Church: They are just as much Christian as you believe yourself to be .

[tetetakneea]

Have heard that argument before, hence I touched on this in the video, just because you plaster it all over in your name does not mean you truly follow Him. Joseph Smith claims to have done more than Jesus himself and has talked of him being one to judge on judgement day, this is completely apart from Christ's teachings.

[calamazue1989]

I'm not Mormon and can't stand them in alot of ways however just because they don't go along with what u or I believe is Christian doesn't mean they aren't , but they are Christian .

[tetetakneea]

Unlike you, I can stand them, I know a lot of them that I love and like, and would not want them to continue to be decieved, I once believed they were Christian but the more I saw how much they praise Joseph Smith I see that they truly aren't...

[Salem838]

Then God continues to say:

"There shall not be one of the people of the Book but shall believe in Him before his death, and in the day of resurrection, He will be a witness against them." The Quran 4:159 (previous ones where 4:157-158, sorry!)

We believe that Jesus (son of Mary) would come down to earth at the end of times. He is the Messiah. God says in the Quran at several places "Al Masih Jesus son of Mary ". Arabic: المسسيح عيسى ابن مريم

Please check your sources well.

[tetetakneea]

No really? BUt you will all be decieved because you are looking for someone who is going to fit the biblical antichrist description, many are going to think it is Him... Please...

[Salem838]

Let's bring what the Quran is saying about Jesus peace upon him:

"And for their saying, "Verily we have slain the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, an Apostle of God." Yet they slew him not, and they crucified him not, but they had only his likeness. And they who differed about him were in doubt concerning him: No sure knowledge had they about him, but followed only an opinion, and they did not really slay him,but God took him up to Himself. And God is Mighty, Wise!" The Quran 4:159-160

[JasonsPresupposition]

Great video! You've showed a fantastic knowledge of the Bible, and you did a great job explaining your position.

[tetetakneea]

thanks!

[faro0485]

Yes I let you judge me. 1st John 4

[tetetakneea]

This only proves more that the ones discounting Jesus should be seen through testing... not judging...

[faro0485]

I judged you, I was making it clear that I was letting you judge me. I judged you to be a denier of Jesus, an anti-christ. What do you have to say in regards to that?

[tetetakneea]

That is fine, please judge me... it is not my place to judge you... but I do not deny Christ... And it is only God who can truly judge but thanks for the effort.

[faro0485]

Actually it is your duty to judge others. 1st john ch 2 and ch4.

[tetetakneea]

Actually it is our duty to hold other Christians accountable, we are not to judge anyone. But thanks....

[faro0485]

No... it's your duty to test and try every spirit.

[tetetakneea]

But this is different than judging them...

[faro0485]

Not in Semitic terms.

[faro0485]

How can you choose Jesus when John 16:12? Mormonism is just a perversion created by occultists.

You speak of galatians? Galatians is about what paul says. Woman, I judge you to be an anti-christ.

Muslims don't believe Jesus is a messiah? Quran 3:45 - you state as the one Jesus mentions in mark 8:11, you liar!

There is no messiah ruling for 7 years according to the quran. You are refering to the shite and sufi doctrines of mahdi, not islamic doctrines.

[tetetakneea]

The quran talks og Mahdi... and John 16:12 speaks of Jesus' spirit... the holy spirit, so what are you talking about? A MESSIAH, = Messenger... they believe he was a profit, but they do not believe he is the son of God or God incarnate.

[faro0485]

I googled "quran mahdi", I find that there's nothing in the quran referencing this concept of mahdi.

Very well.. you claim that john 16:12 speaks of Jesus's spirit... that's interesting. But how can you claim that when the holy ghost was already there?

Beni elohim is a hebrew concept refering to chosen/godly, or as in "sons of the soil, or sons of the sea", like Adam son of the god. God incarnate? Like adam created in the god's image? Or is this something violating the second commandments?

[tetetakneea]

God INCARNATE = God in a MANS body... And the holy spirit did not come until after Jesus accended into heaven, read your bible...

[faro0485]

I'm glad you rejected the notion of madhi in the quran.

The god breathed the god's spirit in man already. For the god to be in the shape of a man's body would contradict the second commandment. Let alone Jesus not talking about such a thing.

You must have forgotten Matthew 1:19-21

Is it true that leaven of evil use temptresses?

[jrummy16]

Mormonism does teach that "Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God" (Title page of the Book of Mormon). If you were to read the Book of Mormon you would see that Joseph Smith, along with all the prophets before him, pointed to Jesus Christ and his role as the Savior of the World. It is not "another gospel" but is rather the same gospel that Christ taught only restored (brought back) to the earth under the direction of God. Just as God restored the gospel in Bible times so has God done today.

[tetetakneea]

If I were to read the book of mormo??? Where is your quote from??? Because it seems as if you have not read it much either... If you were to read the bible... you would see that mormonism is a complete contradiction of ALL of CHrist's teachings...

[SpeckCipher]

Where?...the "Title page of the Book of Mormon"

How did you miss the citation? What else do you miss in plane reading?

Oddly the majority of beliefs are found in the bible and some directly from Christ.

[tetetakneea]

LOL, well if it is on the cover, and plastered all over their freakin buildings it MUST be taught... I am pretty sure I have researched more into mormonism than mormons themselves... their leader Joe himself was a liar and can't make up his mind what he wants.. Oh and he also predicted the second coming which came and passed, Since the bible says ALL true prophecy comes to pass, this makes him a false prophet!

[jrummy16]

I have read the whole Bible several times. The Book of Mormon teaches the same principles that are found in the Bible. Have you read the Book of Mormon yet?

[tetetakneea]

Have you read the history of Joseph Smith? HMMMM??? Wait He had more than 1 wife? Wait he used to kill people if he judged their sins to be harsh enough... Bet you didn't know that, of course you didn't because Mormons teach it is wrong to research outside of the mormon website, so I guess you are sinning because you watched this, better do your 12 steps of repentance... hope your bishop doesn't excommunicate you... Oh, wait the bible doesn't talk about either of those.. HMMM

[SpeckCipher]

I find it quite interesting that the qualifications to be a wife of Joseph smith was to just be a female with him some time when there is no record.

I find it hilarious that when people say Joseph predicted the second coming they ignore the dots of which is what is left out which ironically shows that he did not. But hay why would you want the whole truth anyway.

Check your sources to the first source. If you can't how do you know you are not being lied to?

[tetetakneea]

"Check your sources to the first source. If you can't how do you know you are not being lied to? "

Very well put, now apply that to mormonism all together...

Please research Joseph Smith and His wives...

[SpeckCipher]

I did and quote Isaiah when you see the laws of the time. So many of the supposed wives are not and never were married to Joseph but married by him. One account you've probably read had dots after it which indicate more information that was not shown which info shows that the conclusion you were lead to believe was opposite and a quick 180 happen after and the opposite of what you were lead to believed happened.

The few that are left Isaiah covered as that was US law of the time.

[tetetakneea]

Okay, well lets go deeper, do some research on the wars your book speaks of... why is it that they can't find ANY remains of them, and also, nothing has been able to stand up to any historical research in the book of mormon... And Joe did kill, you just haven't found the blood oath he wrote...

[SpeckCipher]

If I understand you correctly, you are under the impression that there where no remains of any war or battles on the American continent found by anyone.

Are you sure you did research?

In my study of non-Mormon sources the culture, cities, technology, architecture, and blood are found.

Can you find the blood oath he supposedly wrote and prove it came from him and not hear say by some one who didn't like him?

[SpeckCipher]

You need less dots in your words as the punctuation is incorrect, for it indicates that there is more information than is displayed yet grammar indicating just pore punctuation.

[jrummy16]

The church doesn't teach that you can't research outside the mormon website. Yes, I did know Joseph Smith had more than one wife. Did you know that some of the greatest prophets in the Bible aslo had more than one wife (Abraham, Isaac, Jacab). Also, Joseph Smith never killed anyone because of their sins. And you never answere my question as to if you have read the Book of Mormon... I am not trying to argue with you here so please don't be offended by anything.

[tetetakneea]

YUP! But Jospeh Smith claimed to be against polygamy...

[SpeckCipher]

'Christians' believe that there are not prophets any more, same as Muslims, they both claim to believe the Bible and they both believe in a closed canon.

[tetetakneea]

I believe you are wrong... they believe MOHAMMAD was the last prophet, and Christians believe prophecy can still be made...

[SpeckCipher]

So Mormons are Christians because they have a prophet that receives revelation today just as God has had for thousands of years previous proving that God is the same today yesterday and forever.

[tetetakneea]

mormons are not Christians and I made a video on it, if you are interested in why I say that... it is called Answer for mormons...

[SpeckCipher]

In this vid, If I recall correctly you said that Paul expected angels to bring in false doctrine. in the same quote Paul also indicated himself to bring false doctrine. As such in using Pauls words many 'Christians' call Christ a liar and preach another gospel other than what Christ preached in the Gospels of Matthew Mark Luke and John; Literally using Paul to preach opposite of what Christ taught. becoming Anti-Christs in action claiming it Christianity.

[tetetakneea]

WHere does Paul speak of preaching a false gospel?

[SpeckCipher]

In the same place as your angels according to your vid.

I do wonder where "the Gospel according to Paul" is. I can't seem to find it in the Bible. I can find his epistles to the church and his sons but where is his account of the Gospel. I can Plainly see Matthew Mark Luke and John in the beginning, as it should be the foundation of teaching the gospel, but no Paul.

Are we then to assume that what he taught is that all gospels he wrote not are false or that those gospels are the same as his?

[tetetakneea]

Then maybe you don't understand the bible... Paul wrote all the letters to all the established churches called, galatians, ephesians, phillipians, corinthians... etc... what the heck are you talking about?

[SpeckCipher]

I'm talking about how you used Paul for gospel and leave out the Gospels in turn preaching another gospel using Paul. If I didn't know better I'd say you worshiped Paul and not Christ. An I'd be a second witness to point out that this method of thinking is anti-Christ. and the first witness isn't my religion and thinks it crazy.

[faro0485]

Paul is not part of the bible. He was one that Jesus warned us of in mark 8:11. 1 Corinthians 11:1 vs John 8:31

Paul lies and contradicts himself and law in 1 Corinthians 11:5-15

It's no wonder why all the disciples of Jesus rejected paul, but of course, paul was a herodian.

[faro0485]

You could youtube "paul vs jesus"

[tetetakneea]

Or I could read the books Paul wrote... He was killed for his beliefs in CHrist...

[faro0485]

But mark 8:11... paul was the one who Jesus was talking about in that verse.

[tetetakneea]

The Gospels were accounts of Jesus from 1st and 3rd hand, LUKE being 3rd hand... and Paul was an apostle that witnessed after this... He was simply a Christian spreading the word... and being a person who once killed Christians for their beliefs found His faith even stronger because he knew what it truly ment to be a christian, unlike all the mormons I have ever met...

[faro0485]

Paul was not a christian, he was a Roman. He was a herodian. Herodians jews were the only ones with Roman citizenship. Otherwise he would have been crucified.

And no matter what word Paul was spreading, he was never a champion for Jesus. He was the one Jesus warned us about. Mark 8:11

It doesn't matter what the Mormons believe, they follow an occult master related to masons and gog magog, as was Paul. Either you're a follower of paul: 1 Corinthians 11:1 or Jesus: John 8:31

[SpeckCipher]

Thank you, that was quite and informative video.