Creation - Painter Man 1967

[llandwrogy]

Warrington's Bob Garner on bass!!

[Dairybeat]

If you visit my DAIRYBEAT Channel, you'll find a link to my Website, where you can view and/or Download the TAB that I made for this song, with Lyrics, Lead Guitar & Chords.

[fooman65]

fuckin heavy band man for the time

[secretgothic]

WOW!Forget the Stones or the Beatles,this group are somewhere between the Kinks and The Who.Very underrated band with a unique sound.Still can't believe Painter Man only reached number 36 in the charts.The guy seems to be playing his guitar with a violin,is this where Jimmy Page got the idea from?

[TheSunbau]

This band was really underrated. My hobby is to rediscover all those great bands from the 60s that didn´t "broke through". It´s a fantastic musical treasure. Listen (youtube) for example to:

THE ZETTLERS and their versions of "Skinnie Minnie" and "Beautiful Delilah".

(Really f.....g good with a bloody driving beat).

THE GOLLIWOGS and the tune "Tell me". Check up the singer...Yes, it´s him!!!

[SandDec]

I think almost all fans of "Painter Man" thinks this as an original from Boney M.

[19679163]

never made the charts due to alleged rigging

[nick19651000]

So underrated, it's criminal

[englishsandy]

Kenny Pickett was he the singer someone please ntell me?

[JonnieNeutron]

@englishsandy ....Yes, Kenny Pickett was the singer. The lineup that recorded the first 2 singles was :-

Kenny Pickett on vocals,

Eddie Phillips - Guitar,

Jack Jones - Drums

and a friend of mine Bob Garner on Bass. 

The same lineup also recorded the 1996 album Power Surge... just before Kenny's death in 1997.

[Studmasterify]

Suppose the guitarist with the bow could argue that he influenced Jimmy Page who took it up a few year later

[Khultan]

@Studmasterify No, it's been done even earlier than Page and this.

[GeoffKnoop]

Thank you

We love the Creation



[dddrum]

Fairly fab; I might say gear-ish. However, I prefer Hamsterman, by Those Darn Accordions! Possibly the greatest song I have ever speculated about. I don't want to say it changed my life, but I will say this.

[diggeratclaranet]

Okay... I tried posting the link, of course, but youtube gave me an error and woulnd't let me put it in - not my fault. You can look at my profile and that show the URL.

[diggeratclaranet]

Interview with Eddie on my website

[67psych2]

@diggeratclaranet Where is it then!!or are you just being attention seeking!!cause i KEN where you live BA BAG!!!!

[buckfastbam]

Bob is cool  !!!! Where are you ????

[dimmiewitson]

How these lads can blitz out a lyric or even two between offerings of sauer kraut and freshly-laundered lederhosen is beyond ich.

[acidangelster]

I came to know today after 25 years of my existance on the face of this earth that this was the roginal version.I always thought boney m wrote this song.

[48trixie]

Eddie Phillips using a violin bow on an electric guitar unusal then

[TheRepub]

It's pathetic.

[67roko]

@TheRepub fuckoff you caaaant!

[67psych2]

@TheRepub YEAH!!! FUCK OFF YOU CUNT!!!!!

[secretgothic]

@TheRepub I disagree-this is brilliant early punk rock.

[desamator11]

@secretgothic i'll agree to your staement;early mod-punk.

[desamator11]

@secretgothic yes,punk.

[gaham99]

the guitarist looks like pete townshend

[eunicefinger]

nice to see a super rare fender slab bass!

[shookrunner]

Great track though I really love the cover version by Television Personalities

[cygnusxl5]

Love It , Love It - Boney M on L.S.D!!!

[DavidJHarrisonEssex]

A ' Forgotten Original' by most, what a great sound, surprised this only got to number 36 in the U.K charts on the 3rd-Nov-66, their 2nd of 2 minor hit, the 1st being Making Time (#49, 7th-July-66), they do sound a lot like The Who. I suppose there were so many great bands in the 60s that some had to 'slip through the net'. I love this original but as usual if you like a song you prefer the 1st version you heard & for me it was Boney M (U.K #10-28th-April-79), their 8th U.K hit.

[supersondessixties]

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[scorway]

boney M version is better

[buchseboelken]

best song of the sixties except dandy from the kinks

[MIB316]

Woefully underrated band.

[GregTuco]

Great bass line.

A very inventive band-- should be more highly regarded, IMHO.

[urizzle7]

i wonder if any of guys noticed that eddie kept whacking kenny with the violin bow on purpose after he paints!!!!

i just noticed that... so funny

[DmanEyes]

1:50 - Singer thinks guitarist is asking for a fight. Should have slapped him with that bow.

[mazzarellisteve]

I'm sure Gardener was related to Bob Hope....

[TheRepub]

This crap is living proof that if the music industry doesn't have anyone

CREATIVE, they'll stick anyone in!

[daniva]

before jimmy page 2:48

[sinning1966]

@daniva Eddie Phillips, the bow guitar player of the 60's!

I juts love his "bow" hit humour scene here! Also when he just make a cross on himself at 0:45, lol. WTF!?

[Bigbitgirl]

i want to be a paintermaaaaaaaaaan....creatio­n 4ever!!!

[Jarleypro]

haha iv also seen the comercial.. the song rocks :P :P

[john111257]

brilliant 60s ...stomping stuff..totally messed up by boney m

[hawkmoon03111951]

I'm sure I remember them doing this number on Crackerjack.

[never2old2playwithu]

I had this single when it came out in the 60s, I can't believe they're dressed the way they are, I remember this being pretty heavy shit for its day...

[Neif3l]

Very Beatles.

[klinsmeier]

The show of the guitar player is incredible!

[sumjenta]

whats up with playing guitar with a violin stick thingy???

[BPandTyler]

@sumjenta it's credited as being the first song to use that technique.

[sumjenta]

@BPandTyler thats kool, but why? xP does it work? is it real or just acting??

[greendayfan299]

ahaha, gotta love their moves xD freakin' epic!

[wiggs333]

this could SO be the Beatles!

[CAPDLVS]

123

[hardstuff72]

Kenny Pickett is Painter Man.

[tr3tr4tr6]

are these guys still playing

[Hockeynut100]

@tr3tr4tr6 . Unfortunately not

[hardstuff72]

@tr3tr4tr6 Kenny Pickett, the lead singer here in this vid, died in 1997. The other members tried to reunite somwhere in "2000" I guess.

[john111257]

@hardstuff72 sad...didnt know...another band that shouldve been bigger..

[paintedship]

@hardstuff72 they were doing stuff before 2000- they reunited and recorded a new album with Kenny as well as played shows with him in the 90s

[tr3tr4tr6]

saw these in the 60s at beckenham ballroom i was stunned to see a guitarist using a violin bow went out and bought one the next day

[stonerbudkap]

Man them limeys made great music.

[redrock1965]

@stonerbudkap ,,,,fat overweight burger eating yank.....and you call old blight limey ,,fucking dickhead ,,,thats if you know what one is lol

[stonerbudkap]

Lighten up!

[K1SSMYGLASS]

limeys? Are you from the stone age?

[slimbim77]

i think they did this for commercial reasons;their other stuff was much more punk."how does it feel to feel" is absolutely brillant.

[BERO67]

I know the 'Boney M' version isn't a patch on their version. But at least it got a great song a wider audience and hopefully a bit of overdue deserved royalties for the writers. Also check out 'I Can Take You To The Sun' by The Misunderstood and 'Desdemona' bu Jon's Children, featuring Marc Bolan on lead guitar and backing vocals with Andy Ellison, later of Radio Stars on lead vocal.

[shaneinkster]

Boney M. Did this 2

[philthemod]

my kid is 13 he plays the creation before the who, says the who are overated fucking hippies. 1 good lp 3 great singels.

[notanotheraccount]

The Creation is a great band, and your kid has a lot of growing up to do. The Who can change his life if he's smart enough to let them.

[amodulares]

What??¡¡ I thought this song belonged to Boney M!

[sheltalmy]

HAHAHAHA

[Nigelxman]

I just listened to the 2 songs you mentioned. Fucking brilliant! I'm gonna ordere Before the Dream Faded thru Amazon. I assumed they were English but they're actually from right here in So. Calif. Apparently they moved to London for awhile in 1966. At any rate, thanks for turning me on to a new (old) band dude. :-) I love how raw their sound is. Shame they never really made it..

[Nigelxman]

Hi Kirkwallboy, I have never even heard of "The Misunderstood". I'll have to check them out. Cheers from California.

[kirkwallboy]

The Misunderstood - Children of the Sun.

It kicks ass.

Cheers from Orkney, Scotland.

[kirkwallboy]

Or try "I Unseen" by the Misunderstood.

[fiendwithoutaface66]

if you like the creation you might also like a band called the Attack. The cd "About Time" has pretty much everything they ever did.

Misunderstood are like the American yardbirds to me, great band.

[siggifrosch]

my Dad was a painterman an I was 15 years old - I love this song also today - let's dance ...

[Nigelxman]

Thanks so much for explaining that Flares. :-)

[Nigelxman]

I truly don't understand why this band didn't become HUGE. Please explain it to me!  I'm just a dumb Yank. And whoever said they sound like the Beatles..WRONG...They sound much more like the Who and the Kinks.

[lovelyflares]

too many dissagreements and kenny pickett left after he found them writing songs behind his back!! An era called 'FREAKBEAT' which lasted about a year or so in England , 1966 - early 1967 . End of the mods beginning of the psychedlic sound. Pioneered by The Who and The Creation, to name but a few. Never made it huge in the states as it was about to be swallowed up by The Hippy uprising and all the San francisco sounds/bands. Then Hendrix arrived in England in 1966 and stole the show really !!!!

[kirkwallboy]

Yeah I understand your frustration. I, too, am dumb, albeit from Scotland. I can't explain. Beatles? Yes, WRONG...

They are defo in Kinks and Who territory, and also have a smidge of originality about them.

Many other great bands have also fallen through the daft grille, nto the nowhere sewer, on those rain-swept rock and roll pavements. Oh dear, I'm bull-shitting now.

My fave lost 60's band, for what it's worth?

The Misunderstood.

ps you ain't dumb.

[rokusho63]

love this, and the boney m version!

[lutont59]

Should have been big in the UK. Excellent.

[nicolas932]

mmm

sound like the beatles

[ritter1808]

Bad The Who : /

[shtapipa]

holy shit!!!!!! i guess jimmy page was not the first to use the violin bow on the guitar!!!!

[quiraingview]

and you thought he was original mmm!!!! ?

[notaphaser]

He apparently picked it up during his days as a studio musician, so not even this guy in the vid here was the VERY first. He might be the first to do it to a mass audience though....

[asmorgan88]

HAHAH! You know how many people have done that? This guy wasn't the first, neither was Page!

Not to trash it, but there's not much at ALL that you can do with a violin bow on the guitar! And, Page was doing the bow thing right around this time with The Yardbirds!

[fiendwithoutaface66]

Eddie Phillips still did it first, Page did it in the Yardbirds in 1967, Phillips was doing it in 1966 or before possibly.

Eddie: "I was looking for a sound like a long sustain as I'm talking about pre-fuzzbox days! First tried with a hacksaw with a guitar string (wound) in place of the blade but that didn't work and my local music store at that time carried a range of all musical instruments including some violins - so it seemed a good idea at the time to use a bow! - the rest is history! "

[asmorgan88]

Eddie Phillips may have been the first to RECORD with a violin bow...but he wasn't the first to use it on stage.

[fiendwithoutaface66]

then who was?

[fiendwithoutaface66]

"Sean S. (aka modgod1): Did you see anyone else before yourself play an electric guitar with a bow?

Eddie: No. "

[asmorgan88]

Syd Barret of Pink Floyd fame.

[fiendwithoutaface66]

I don't see any proof that he played with the bow before Eddie Phillips did. if you have something let me know. Making Time was recorded in May 1966 so it would have to be before that. I can't find anything and if he did it would've only been live since they didn't record anything at that point besides I'm a King Bee and Lucy Leave (recorded October 1965).

[fiendwithoutaface66]

Remember though those are pretty standard rhythm and blues tunes so I doubt any bow would've been used until late 1966 at the earliest since the next demo that exists from pink floyd is interstellar overdrive from October 1966 which is a very different band by then.

I'm still going with Eddie Phillips as the first to use a bow on the guitar, unless there's something concrete that says otherwise.

[asmorgan88]

Calm down - don't take yourself so seriously.

And yes, it was said to be LIVE...if you read my initial comment in its' entirety & didn't choose to interpret only the part that you wanted, you would've not had to even respond.

It was said that Barret was the first to use it on stage.

But, I'll be damned if it was in the mid 1960's that someone thought to put a violin bow up against the strings of a guitar...

So, it's moot who did it first.

[fiendwithoutaface66]

yeah but where's the dates to back it up if he did? Otherwise it's just someone guessing at this. And yes I did read the word "live" but wanted to post up some basis on why I didn't believe that even considering pink floyd's drastic style change in 1966. I posted up why I think Phillips did it first with some facts. At any rate I'd be interested to learn if he truly didn't but it doesn't seem like it.

[sbarr10]

"Our music is red with purple flashes." Guitarist Eddie Phillips.

Eddie was a talented enough songwriter to go on and pen "Teacher Teacher" for Rockpile.

[thorbheg]

This one is been used in a commercial in Norway for, yes, paint

[Cameleon7]

In a hilarious way too^^

[feadwe]

@thorbheg i love that commercial :D

[minibfan]

where can i download this song?

[NorwegianTurboBrains]

Try Limewire, Pirate Bay ++

[pietrogutta]

i would compare them to the who or the troggs, very simplistic, raw, guitar-driven pop, ironic lyrics, however with an elaborate vocal harmony and inventive performance with violin bow.

[MrNyseter]

wow smart ass xD

[mylitlejesus]

den e jo med i den male reklamen xDD

[eamonosu]

similar to the move's flowers in the rain

[artrocker65]

Not at all, they have different sound. But both are great songs.

[KanuttePIKK]

This song is stucked to my brain like a papparizzi is on a naked Paris Hilton.

[milkcult]

@KanuttePIKK Paparazzi, not papparizzi ;) ...tonight I go to see The Sonics here in italy!!!!!! raw n roll!!!

[KanuttePIKK]

@milkcult Oh yeah, sorry XD

[jamasianman]

I like the Boney M version better...

[tommyakatytheman]

r u black?

[artrocker65]

Yu a di bombaclat, mon.

[ar0ma]

This song is used on a norwegian paint commercial:D Funny shit, ifrkkn love this song!! This shit could be like a extrem heavy metal band!

[sumjenta]

@ar0ma yeah, how do you think i found it? xD

[TheXpaladin]

@ar0ma Yeah, and im in the commercial ;) im the guy in blue/yellow vest who points at the ''painterman'' 

[PoireauMan68]

FOOKIN BRILLIANT...quieter than THE WHO but didn't fancy themselves as JESUS CHRIST in later life...I LOVE THIS BAND !!

[Squirelpie]

this makes me think of eddie izzard

[NyeTunes]

Damn, I thought Boney M wrote this...

On the other hand, they wrote almost nothing they sang, so why be different? :-P

[vodkalevis]

they created the painter man!

Nice!

We're mods!

[mesmeridium]

The Creation are another good band that few have heard of - even a generation ago they were obscure. If you are collecting CDs of 60s groups, this one is well worth effort of finding a compilation.

[NyeTunes]

The disco remake of this was *far* superior, IMO.

[pnnews90]

hell no

[PoireauMan68]

such is life...success woulda rubbished them...they remain pute then Edwyn drove a bus...what d'you wanna do about it?

[theodorus45]

Nice memories from the 60s!

[scalenenorthey]

cool song, but this looks awfully mimed, am i right?

[beatle608]

yes it is, common thing within 60's tv shows being released now days.

[Squirelpie]

sure it ain't the music vid? he's effin' playing with a violin bow...

[Quadrophenia47]

yeah bands always mim on those old shows

[4449ela]

...whooooooooo'llllllll beeeeeeee an painterman...... I'mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm a paintermaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa­aan

lalala, lala,la,la laaaaaaa

[lpandgw]

the Boney M version sucks, this version is very good

[Yakovlievich]

Thank-you! Some clown sent me a message defending that piece of crap. (I mean really now . . . )

[Efrasnel]

We now also know where Jimmy Page got his violin-bow trick...

[Turtlegoyim]

And Robert Plant got his camera lens painting trick ...

[Quadrophenia47]

when did robert plant do that? 1968 or somthin?

[slagmilkcard]

Lead singer is sort of like a smarter Liam Gallacher (Oasis) of the 60s...I didnt realise they actually wrote this, I had only heard the Boney M version before.

[beatle608]

He does remind me of Liam! I thought the same thing when i saw him (Liam without all of the f-bombs haha)

[pnnews90]

kenny pickett was a far better singer than Liam Gallacher ever wish he could be

[PoireauMan68]

what do the kids have nowadays...? britnee, pussycat dolls (that's for the more mature market too ahah) and kylie monoguee and Carli Brunei, the President's wife...an absolute shame, phew,phew.phew...

[humislair]

There is more music than just the charts.

Plus the Creation were not successful "like britney". (one more reason to listen to them)

[PoireauMan68]

shit he put DiMarzios on his 335...an early experiment? I think Edwin had actually built the 335 from a kit. He later drove a ROUTEMASTER with PP Arnold as a conductress. Then they did LAY THE GHOST in the 90's - I've never heard it but I caught them live at the GARAGE...Phillips still has an aura. Kenny was great but had a few extra pounds on so I guess the royalty cheque fron the painter man cover was substanti. They're my heroes. Purple flahes with a weekly topup on my oystercard. Gemutlich!

[Yakovlievich]

Can't believe that Boney M even touched this song.

[sprotte175]

Spitze, und so schön alt

[dlagrua]

A good inventive and creative group that never quite made it

[brigader4heart]

i think kenny the singer went as roadie on led zep first usa tour and told jimmy page about eddie phillips and the violin bow.

[theonlyantony]

far too utterly utter !!!

[raunchboy]

As a recent photography school graduate, I can certainly identify with the sentiments expressed in this song.

[fritzy4kinks]

This song was originally done by a rock group from New Zealand, called Larry's Rebels. Where it was banned for being suggestive on the radio, thus killing it from being a hit record for the group.

[JAYROX1969]

The song was written by Kenny Pickett and Eddie Phillips of the Creation and they did the original of the song.

[pnnews90]

the song was originally done by the creation, Larry's Rebels covered it

[emoislifexxx]

so thats where jimmy page got the idea for the violen string on the guitar

[droog69]

"so thats where jimmy page got the idea for the violen string on the guitar "

Absolutley - Pete Townshend also once begged Creation guitarist Eddie Phillips to join The Who as a 2nd guitarist back then too.

A very underrated British band.

[qwisp]

I discovered this band through their masterpiece song "Through My Eyes". I think I'm going to head back to the "Eyes" video now.

[bernie49]

believe it or not: I saw them LIVE with this song + some others as an opener for the Rolling Stones on March 31, 1967 in the Dortmund Westfalenhalle (Germany). The singer painted a canvas, then he set it in flames. Maybe they were more "progressive" or even better than The Stones?

[dazedcola]

its a crime they werent as big in their homeland as in germany.

[Khultan]

Dazedcola, it may have been the label they were on and indecision on how to market themselves then going into another genre that they probably shouldn't have that may have spelled their 'doom' into pop obscurity.

[keloskinhead]

keith moon in the guitars

jhon lennon in the bass

xD ojajaoajo

LOL