Smokeyfizz didn't. Also, those of you who argue that Smokeyfizz's fans watched the video and not WT fans, all I have to say is that argument makes no sense. WT never said it had to be their fans to watch the video, the video just had to be the MOST VIEWED. Also, I doubt all 50,000 (if that number is even real) viewers were WT fans
Get real, most of you are jealous but too proud and envious to admit it.
SoshiHwaiting - That was not an argument of nothing. Just was a fact.
Fortunately, WT guys will choose the BIG winner, and all details will count. If I were a WT member, I would prefer an official video by a real fan that at least known something about my music.
Finally, yes, most of us will be jealous... jealous of the final winner that will be announced tomorrow.
It doesn't really matter anyway, because this video may win the prize for most watched, but I doubt that Within Temptation will give both prizes to the same video. I like this one though so it wouldn't be based on nothing if they did but still. :P
It just shows the concert. WT could do that, there's no point in this if you aren't making a music video to their song. If they wanted a show of their concert, they wouldn't make a contest.
why does this video have so many views and then barely any comments about the video itself. I like this video but I think its weird it has this many views but w.e. I have no proof so I can't accuse anything...
For the record, guys, Smokeyfizz DOES NOT CHEAT ON VIEWS!!
Their views (STILL GROWING I MIGHT ADD) are from their viewers and the fans of the Twilight community! Smokeyfizz is bitchinn and they do a lot of Twilight-related vids. As the rabid fanbase we are (yes I am one of those Twilight ppl) we just got thier back cazz they r ama-za-zing!!
to search "tube increaser" and "Tube thumper" in google. It's possible to manipulate the statistics :S... (I'm not say anything about the views of this video, I think that it's not possible to have 57.000 views and 59 qualifications).
that makes no sense whatsoever. you know how videos gain placement on the main page, by accumulating lots of views in a short space of time! so it doesn't prove that you didn't cheat!
This video isnt the best I agree, but it has simple editing there which is okay. I watched smokeyfizz's and his/her video isnt great either. There were too many effects that took my focus off of the band, music, etc. My opinion though
The video is definitely edited. To make the video we were given 7 different camera angles, and over 150 backstage clips. With no audio, so we had to sync that too. So every clip change is an edited piece.
As for the views, it is an extremely high count. I guess this person must be very popular :\
The fact that it is possible to cheat should be reason enough for WT to scrap the second prize, as any competition worth its salt should at least ensure fairness and integrity.
Smokeyfizz - OK, you are not cheating. You demonstrate that it is possible to have teens of thousand of views in few days. But the winner was also able to get such a number of visitors. Why do you think hi/her is cheating?
The number of comments is a proof of cheating? (Most of youtube visitors have not an account)
I do not care about who is the winner and let me say that I like your video more than the other... but it is not fair to say that somebody is cheating without any real evidence.
Smokeyfizz - Please do not cry... your video is not bad and you have a lot of virtual friends, but you entered the contest too late.
I just say that even if it is easy to cheat (please tell us how) is difficult to demonstrate it. You first claimed that the winner is cheating but you have not any proofs (btw, I am a participant, but not the winner)
IMO that is the reason why the winner of the BIG prize will be choosen directly by the WT guys.
alpistexx - We did enter the contest late, we had no actual hope of winning but we decided to try. It was still worth a shot.
We don't know how to cheat, our views come from viewers that watch the video for us. A video that has nearly 50,000 and has what 14 comments? (Before we came and posted one) and only 46 ratings just doesn't seem... right. We suspected cheating, yes, but that doesn't mean we are cheating either.
I also think that some people are cheating but... which is the "legal" limit of the number of visits?
The video from Smokeyfizz got more than 10.000 visits in 3 days! proportionally, much more visits than the winner. And their comments seems to come from very few individuals with many different accounts.humm.
alpistexx - Everytime the video count comes up this video has jumped over a couple thousand views. Where as ours jumps 200 at a time. I don't know, I just found it fishy. And nobody even knows who the author of this video really is.
alpistexx - Few individuals with different account? That's ridiculous.Considering we have nearly 8000 subbers on our account, and have friends that spread the word for us on popular websites with out embedded links. I think it's clear that all those views count. hmm 10,000 is half of 20,000. It's a believable number, considering the amount of ratings, favs and comments our video got. I think it's safe to say we are not cheating =[
Smokeyfizz has almost 8000 subscribers and many good friends on youtube that are watching their video hundreds of times. They are in no way cheating. I, who have 1700 subbers have made a video for people to watch their video as well. They have loyal friends and we are not creating several accounts to watch the video. If everyone of their subscribers watched the vid, these views are easily achieved.
S1L3NTPVPP3T - I don't think this person posted it anywhere to get them views either. The links that are listed say that the link in which gave it the most views was only 7. Very odd..
there should be something wrong here, these numbers couldn't be real, how the hell 40 out of 40,000 only have rated and commented, this must be not legal, or he may be cheating by anyway to hack this number, i dunno i just dcant trust this number at all, and any brain can figure it !
wtlover2008 - I agree. It is very odd that this entry went up 20,000 views in two days, and the author is no where to be seen. I have heard of programs that allow you to upgrade your views, and these ones definitely do not seem genuine. I hope WT notices, cause that is not fair at all. I think this person is cheating.
Smokeyfizz - I think it would be worth sending a message to the band to draw this to their attention. They probably do not read these comments, and I think your concerns are very valid.
I like her voice, the rhythm. but I wonder what language she's singing? it sounds like English sometimes, from the beginning, then I'm kinda lost, and then she spoke French afterward?!
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
there is a reason nearly all singers are men. Because you can hear them over the instruments. she was good but if a guy was singing it i would have understood it better and probably liked it more.
we can keep arguing forever...both of our views are biased... i think the best singers are guys and you think they are girls...cool...i just think you could hear a guy better over all the instruments and you could... i am not talking about abilities but just being able to hear and understand what they are singing.
most viewed great work
maifantasy 3 years ago
Congratulations on second place! ^^
HopefulHarmony 3 years ago
congrats dude
daem0n360 3 years ago
Good job. Unfortunately they didn't pick you, but hej... you're also mentioned right under the winner + a blue ray player. That was worth it ;-)
TakeoOLee 3 years ago
woooooooooow lucky you
congrats on getting most viewed!
AxeProd 3 years ago
grats bro very well done!
misterpally 3 years ago
congrats on being most viewed!!!!! ^__^
xGem76x 3 years ago
i wonder why so many people have watched this video 0o
blablastink 3 years ago
Congrats for being most viewed video!
RacheyRocker 3 years ago
This program used Tube Increaser.
Check it out.
Smokeyfizz didn't. Also, those of you who argue that Smokeyfizz's fans watched the video and not WT fans, all I have to say is that argument makes no sense. WT never said it had to be their fans to watch the video, the video just had to be the MOST VIEWED. Also, I doubt all 50,000 (if that number is even real) viewers were WT fans
Get real, most of you are jealous but too proud and envious to admit it.
Go Smokeyfizz!
SoshiHwaiting 3 years ago
SoshiHwaiting - That was not an argument of nothing. Just was a fact.
Fortunately, WT guys will choose the BIG winner, and all details will count. If I were a WT member, I would prefer an official video by a real fan that at least known something about my music.
Finally, yes, most of us will be jealous... jealous of the final winner that will be announced tomorrow.
Good luck to all WT fans!
alpistexx 3 years ago
It doesn't really matter anyway, because this video may win the prize for most watched, but I doubt that Within Temptation will give both prizes to the same video. I like this one though so it wouldn't be based on nothing if they did but still. :P
thetunaman 3 years ago
It just shows the concert. WT could do that, there's no point in this if you aren't making a music video to their song. If they wanted a show of their concert, they wouldn't make a contest.
Spazlararoo 3 years ago 4
borrrrINGggggg
nodoubt009 3 years ago
THIS SONG ROCKS!!! woo hoo
tifa76 3 years ago
So true!! whoohoo!!!!
thetunaman 3 years ago
why does this video have so many views and then barely any comments about the video itself. I like this video but I think its weird it has this many views but w.e. I have no proof so I can't accuse anything...
3838389 3 years ago
Most of Smokeyfizz-video views are from Smokeyfizz fans not from Within Temptation fans.
alpistexx 3 years ago
Again...why does this matter?
HBHO 3 years ago 3
For the record, guys, Smokeyfizz DOES NOT CHEAT ON VIEWS!!
Their views (STILL GROWING I MIGHT ADD) are from their viewers and the fans of the Twilight community! Smokeyfizz is bitchinn and they do a lot of Twilight-related vids. As the rabid fanbase we are (yes I am one of those Twilight ppl) we just got thier back cazz they r ama-za-zing!!
GND4ever11223 3 years ago
to search "tube increaser" and "Tube thumper" in google. It's possible to manipulate the statistics :S... (I'm not say anything about the views of this video, I think that it's not possible to have 57.000 views and 59 qualifications).
beautyinferno 3 years ago
neh, smokeyfizz is better
s2chig 3 years ago
oh stop your whining this vid shows on top of the main youtube thats how i got here bunch of babies
nodoubt009 3 years ago
that makes no sense whatsoever. you know how videos gain placement on the main page, by accumulating lots of views in a short space of time! so it doesn't prove that you didn't cheat!
S1L3NTPVPP3T 3 years ago
well i was just stating the fact on how i found the vid, i didnt know anyone was cheating but then again we dont know so stop assuming
nodoubt009 3 years ago
this video didn't get a lot of views because it was on the main page, it got on the main page because it had a lot views
S1L3NTPVPP3T 3 years ago 2
This video isnt the best I agree, but it has simple editing there which is okay. I watched smokeyfizz's and his/her video isnt great either. There were too many effects that took my focus off of the band, music, etc. My opinion though
uBeRdRamAtiC 3 years ago
GIVE ME SOME MONEY!!!
GIVEMESOMEMONEYguy 3 years ago
The video is definitely edited. To make the video we were given 7 different camera angles, and over 150 backstage clips. With no audio, so we had to sync that too. So every clip change is an edited piece.
As for the views, it is an extremely high count. I guess this person must be very popular :\
We do appreciate your support with us of course.
Smokeyfizz 3 years ago
The fact that it is possible to cheat should be reason enough for WT to scrap the second prize, as any competition worth its salt should at least ensure fairness and integrity.
S1L3NTPVPP3T 3 years ago
SILENTPUPPET - I agree with you. However I think that WT and also most participants were aware of that. At least, I did it.
Now is too late to claim.
To me, the main problem with this contest are the plagiated videos althought they are easy to detect.
alpistexx 3 years ago
Smokeyfizz - OK, you are not cheating. You demonstrate that it is possible to have teens of thousand of views in few days. But the winner was also able to get such a number of visitors. Why do you think hi/her is cheating?
The number of comments is a proof of cheating? (Most of youtube visitors have not an account)
I do not care about who is the winner and let me say that I like your video more than the other... but it is not fair to say that somebody is cheating without any real evidence.
alpistexx 3 years ago
if it helps..i saw this video on the front of the youtube page. =/
daem0n360 3 years ago
Ah, well. Yeah that does help.
Smokeyfizz 3 years ago
guys we should do something, this video cant take this prize, it's really cheating, it's increasing abnormally and wt should know this
mmv2004 3 years ago
Smokeyfizz - Please do not cry... your video is not bad and you have a lot of virtual friends, but you entered the contest too late.
I just say that even if it is easy to cheat (please tell us how) is difficult to demonstrate it. You first claimed that the winner is cheating but you have not any proofs (btw, I am a participant, but not the winner)
IMO that is the reason why the winner of the BIG prize will be choosen directly by the WT guys.
alpistexx 3 years ago
alpistexx - We did enter the contest late, we had no actual hope of winning but we decided to try. It was still worth a shot.
We don't know how to cheat, our views come from viewers that watch the video for us. A video that has nearly 50,000 and has what 14 comments? (Before we came and posted one) and only 46 ratings just doesn't seem... right. We suspected cheating, yes, but that doesn't mean we are cheating either.
Smokeyfizz 3 years ago
OMG i love WT!.
SoullessVirus 3 years ago
I also think that some people are cheating but... which is the "legal" limit of the number of visits?
The video from Smokeyfizz got more than 10.000 visits in 3 days! proportionally, much more visits than the winner. And their comments seems to come from very few individuals with many different accounts.humm.
alpistexx 3 years ago
... and their linked pages sum only 13 visits in total!. humm.
alpistexx 3 years ago
alpistexx - Everytime the video count comes up this video has jumped over a couple thousand views. Where as ours jumps 200 at a time. I don't know, I just found it fishy. And nobody even knows who the author of this video really is.
Smokeyfizz 3 years ago
alpistexx - Few individuals with different account? That's ridiculous.Considering we have nearly 8000 subbers on our account, and have friends that spread the word for us on popular websites with out embedded links. I think it's clear that all those views count. hmm 10,000 is half of 20,000. It's a believable number, considering the amount of ratings, favs and comments our video got. I think it's safe to say we are not cheating =[
Smokeyfizz 3 years ago
Smokeyfizz has almost 8000 subscribers and many good friends on youtube that are watching their video hundreds of times. They are in no way cheating. I, who have 1700 subbers have made a video for people to watch their video as well. They have loyal friends and we are not creating several accounts to watch the video. If everyone of their subscribers watched the vid, these views are easily achieved.
HBHO 3 years ago
that is the problem with the second prize. it is too easy to hack youtube and increase your views
S1L3NTPVPP3T 3 years ago 2
S1L3NTPVPP3T - I don't think this person posted it anywhere to get them views either. The links that are listed say that the link in which gave it the most views was only 7. Very odd..
Smokeyfizz 3 years ago
there should be something wrong here, these numbers couldn't be real, how the hell 40 out of 40,000 only have rated and commented, this must be not legal, or he may be cheating by anyway to hack this number, i dunno i just dcant trust this number at all, and any brain can figure it !
wtlover2008 3 years ago
wtlover2008 - I agree. It is very odd that this entry went up 20,000 views in two days, and the author is no where to be seen. I have heard of programs that allow you to upgrade your views, and these ones definitely do not seem genuine. I hope WT notices, cause that is not fair at all. I think this person is cheating.
Smokeyfizz 3 years ago
Smokeyfizz - I think it would be worth sending a message to the band to draw this to their attention. They probably do not read these comments, and I think your concerns are very valid.
S1L3NTPVPP3T 3 years ago
You jump views very fast, but with no extra ratings or comments. hmm.
Smokeyfizz 3 years ago 3
I like her voice, the rhythm. but I wonder what language she's singing? it sounds like English sometimes, from the beginning, then I'm kinda lost, and then she spoke French afterward?!
chau084 3 years ago
Not a bad job on the entry! Love this song! Nicely sung live as well. :D:D
thetunaman 3 years ago
Not my type of music.
angelskiss1959 3 years ago
sorry but I am not amused.
lennonvvong 3 years ago
Oh my god... I have wanted to play with a symphony so bad. Within Temptation has a much better song (gotchic) than Transiberian.
WickedSpadesAH 3 years ago
Interesting. The music sounds a bit like a James Bond title song, which is kind of weird.
poute87 3 years ago
Some place is starving for entertainment.
ronnierayjenkins 3 years ago
hahaha...
jdsilver86 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
there is a reason nearly all singers are men. Because you can hear them over the instruments. she was good but if a guy was singing it i would have understood it better and probably liked it more.
myoquad 3 years ago
what are you talking about? you can hear her fine over the instruments. sexist idiot.
FutureSeraphim 3 years ago 3
you can hear her just fine....oh and most GOOD singers are girls...
hersheyluva 3 years ago
we can keep arguing forever...both of our views are biased... i think the best singers are guys and you think they are girls...cool...i just think you could hear a guy better over all the instruments and you could... i am not talking about abilities but just being able to hear and understand what they are singing.
myoquad 3 years ago
WTF
raymur 3 years ago