No abs.. that is why civic wouldn't turn. I use to drive a integra that did not have ABS on the tracks, braking is indeed more difficult and constant pumping of the brake pedal is required. I also agree that The drift king should have given it a try considering he is known to drive the AE86; a car that does not come equipped with ABS however.. i doubt the result would be any difference from oridos because I am sure Orido has some experience with non abs just like the dk.
The reason why the EK crashed, cause it doesn't have ABS... And pls, don't give me that "ABS r for noobs" Cause even pro race car drivers rely on ABS. Plus, would u rather drive a car that's easier to drive than a harder one??
tsuchiya should've driven the civic because ik he can drive cars that dont hav abs because ive seen him countless times in videos driving is ae86, which dusn't hav abs
0:59. the first line. B16b. The B16b was only offered in the CTR, not the EG6. It was only available on the 1999-2000 Civic Type R. The EG6 had the B16A model. Google it if you don't believe it.
Im guessing you from america where to fastest eg6 is the SI with the D16 engine (123bhp) but in the U.K and japan we get the EG6 with a B16 option U.K VTI 158bhp and Japan SIR 170bhp.
Where in my statement am I arguing that the EG6 never came with a b16? I never did. That's not the original b16A it came with. It's the b16B out of the EK9. It says it in video. The valve cover doesn't dictate the engine block. I'm not arguing that you're wrong, I'm arguing that you can't read.
no disrespect to anybody but no matter how you look at it an rx7 is going to give every car a run for its money on turns, grip or drift, its the weight distribution, FF's are to front heavy, to much understeer. FR's tend to kick out to much, AWD to heavy slows them down on turns a bit, the advantage the 7 has is its perfect 50/50 weight distribution they can take turns much faster without to much weight transfer in one place, its spread out more evenly
This video is not about power.. Turbo or not, this video is about how the car is tuned for the track.. And you were right about ur second comment, that the civic is badly tuned for this track.. BTW, thats RE Amemiya RX7, theyre the best RX7 tuners and knows how to make their RX7s turn corners like Integras, which make this match uneven...
No, this video is about FWD vs RWD. FWD is not meant for the track. And no, you don't tune an RX7 to turn like an integra. You tune an integra to turn like an rx7.
stfu FWD's CAN own on a time attack track, thats the stupidiest thing I've ever read. Research the Type R Civic and Integras and all you'll see them owning in is on a track. Oh, minus the occassional drag race of a swapped USDM Civic taking a Mustang GT.
Real sports cars? That hatch is probably nothing compared to what it was stock. And this is a Japanese video, obviously they would know how to properly modify their own cars to run well. I love the hatchbacks, they are great tuners for track racing.
That is such a stupid and typical comment. That Civic is not rice, I'd like to see what you drive take it on the track. Obviously, Civics can be properly modified if they are racing it against tat rx7, which is by no means stock either.
Honda suck.. I guess a stock skyline R32 GTR cant take it but I dont have the money for the APEXI parts right now.. im unemployed and working on getting the money for a 2008 Lancer Evo X
Im sure it was because of all those stickers that give +10 hp each.. wow you beat an 05 Subie STi.. well don't be to proud of yourself beating a stock car..
LoL you really are a dumbass... I would have alot to be proud of asshat, thats a 300+hp awd turboed car, that retails for 35grand. My car and setup barely ran over 8g's. Something to think about. The sticker pun is old, stfu dumbass. Your talking to a tuner, not a "ricer".
used skyliens are 13-18k stock and mileage.. sure they cost more than your crappy civic, but its able to do more styles of driving. Its not your shitty lil car is safer or can do drifting, touge, rally or autox aswell a skyline.. even if the thing is upgraded enough to have same torque/horsepower.
My crappy Civic eh? I've got the same body and chassis used on the original type r. My car can participate in time attack, drag, and auto x! Drifting is cool, but for show and hard on a car. You go faster when you stick, not when you drift. Rally racing is hard as hell on a car, but awd's do take the cake on that. Hell, they would just about beat anything in that category. Buying a skyline for that is a DEAL, so don't even compare it to modding a Civic. Civics are cheap, cost effective tuners.
yes, it is cheap which leaves you with more money to modify but also it has no style or credibility.. lots of dumb ass ricers have honda hatchbacks and think they are the shit. I know that cars like the skyline r32 are overrated and fairly heavy but they have some title and uniqueness and thats why I like it. Also Its not called "stick" its called grip ._.
Stick, grip same thing. Yeah, so what if there are ricers with Civic hatches? They give tuners a bad name. The hatches are sweet, you're a fool to say they are not unique, they can be made that way. In Japan, Honda has been making the Type R line in the hatches until this past year with the 4 door. As Americans, we get the shaft on the best JDM stuff. Personally, I prefer boost over the n/a JDM approach b/c you can make more power with a turbo.
you mean the mugen? I don't like honda.. I hate them and fwd. I work at a honda dealership and I've driven many hondas but other than the sensitivity of the steerwheel compared to other cars, I don't like them.
Yes, Mugen and Spoon Sports, they both mainly work on building the DOHC vtec motors. Some of them are pretty bad, revving 11,000+ rpms, and making power that far! I won't sit here and lie that being fwd they don't have their limitations, but wtf man, they make some of the best fwd cars in the world. The CTR and ITR have been some phenomenal track cars past few years. Honestly, I will move on to bigger things, what have you to say about the NSX?
sure, its a nice car and its RWD I love its aesthetics and ability but it wasn't built like those cheap civics and I dont like hatchbacks. I don't like FWD because im into drifting and FWD can't drift, they can only slide.
Why do you say a Civics were built cheap? Civics are probably built just as good as any other 4cyl car American made. As a matter of fact, Civics are pretty much the best economical 4cyl built on the market period. All it takes is aftermarket stab bars, strut bars, good shocks and lowering springs, and you have a totally diff animal. Same with the motor, boost it or get the junk out and swap a beefier motor.
Does price really come into factor? If you're not talking about it being built cheap?
"don't like FWD because im into drifting and FWD can't drift, they can only slide." is a retarded statement by the way lol. you're true about it not being able to drift but do you really not like FWD vehicles because you're into "drifting"? I don't see the reason to dislike a FWD vehicle because of it's inability to drift, not like you're drifting every single corner on the street right?
Btw, just look at how hatchbacks have become the next big thing with fast sport compacts. Mini-cooper, Focus SVT and RS, Civic Type R, not too mention in Europe Peugeot and BMW have some nice hatch cars.
well I prefer sedan or coupe at any rate.. and Honda has such generic looking head/tail lights. The newer honda accords even look like toyota camrys. yuck!
Proof that civics suck ass.
alisterhayden 1 year ago
did you pee yourself cuz it looks like you piss yourself
learn to drive come over il teach you stick
2014Lopez 1 year ago
dude (shakes head) thats an eg6 not an ek
asegna8824 1 year ago 3
thats EG 6 not the EK 9..
qzwwzq 2 years ago
fuck FWD. understeers a bitch haha
ILUVJDM0051 2 years ago
No abs.. that is why civic wouldn't turn. I use to drive a integra that did not have ABS on the tracks, braking is indeed more difficult and constant pumping of the brake pedal is required. I also agree that The drift king should have given it a try considering he is known to drive the AE86; a car that does not come equipped with ABS however.. i doubt the result would be any difference from oridos because I am sure Orido has some experience with non abs just like the dk.
HCNguyen86 2 years ago
The reason why the EK crashed, cause it doesn't have ABS... And pls, don't give me that "ABS r for noobs" Cause even pro race car drivers rely on ABS. Plus, would u rather drive a car that's easier to drive than a harder one??
Filipinoborn 2 years ago
this is not an ek hatch!!!
RacsQT 2 years ago
It WOULD be a civic
Falessi 2 years ago
all you guys are fuckers.. so fuck off with your god damn civics
swss12 2 years ago
maybe he crashed cause its fuckin fwd and it sucks dick. i was hoping it was going to fly off a cliff
swss12 3 years ago
lol
azonglee 2 years ago
x2 !!
GodAss 2 years ago
He crashed cause he got understeer twice.. he had to release break when he realized the wheels blocking
nascube 2 years ago
tsuchiya should've driven the civic because ik he can drive cars that dont hav abs because ive seen him countless times in videos driving is ae86, which dusn't hav abs
ReAmemiyaFREAK 3 years ago
guys its an eg6 with the standard b16 (1.6 litre) engine modified to 230bhp
rehmant 3 years ago
The b18b is out of the Civic Type R from the EK generation. Getting 230hp out of that motor isn't terribly difficult considering it's N/A.
shazmybot 3 years ago
Its a b16 staight from the EG6.
rehmant 3 years ago
0:59. the first line. B16b. The B16b was only offered in the CTR, not the EG6. It was only available on the 1999-2000 Civic Type R. The EG6 had the B16A model. Google it if you don't believe it.
shazmybot 3 years ago
Im guessing you from america where to fastest eg6 is the SI with the D16 engine (123bhp) but in the U.K and japan we get the EG6 with a B16 option U.K VTI 158bhp and Japan SIR 170bhp.
rehmant 3 years ago
Where in my statement am I arguing that the EG6 never came with a b16? I never did. That's not the original b16A it came with. It's the b16B out of the EK9. It says it in video. The valve cover doesn't dictate the engine block. I'm not arguing that you're wrong, I'm arguing that you can't read.
shazmybot 3 years ago
laughin my ass offf!!!!!!!!! ur right he cant read....
mag3punisher 2 years ago
hahaaha tsuchiya laughs his head off at orido lmao that eg6s brakes were fkddd.
e36mmm 3 years ago
its called no abs n he locked em up
TekOne510 3 years ago
helrel, that is 96-00 stupid!
403civic 3 years ago
its got civic type-r engine tho
jestr07 3 years ago
thats a fukin eg smfh, get it right 96-99 ek
helrel 3 years ago
That's not even a EK hatch. That's a EG model civic.
Mfoehrkolb21 3 years ago
lol, you're right.
MOPARfulSRT4 3 years ago
Aahahahahahahaha!
Sohc8u 4 years ago
hey hatch guy at a back wheel drive car then i'll watch!
pljloves 4 years ago
wtf? you dont even make sence
sk8ersr20 3 years ago
bad driving... tsuchiya had no problems romping on it in the wet....
Euphorica 4 years ago
no disrespect to anybody but no matter how you look at it an rx7 is going to give every car a run for its money on turns, grip or drift, its the weight distribution, FF's are to front heavy, to much understeer. FR's tend to kick out to much, AWD to heavy slows them down on turns a bit, the advantage the 7 has is its perfect 50/50 weight distribution they can take turns much faster without to much weight transfer in one place, its spread out more evenly
IceDragon387 4 years ago 9
too much power/too much weight on the front/fucked up brakes = Shitty handling. Poor EG :(
TR4EVR 4 years ago
THE brakes locked...DAME...
asianguy207 4 years ago
Btw, thats not an EK hatch Civic, it's an EG, it even says it on the info list.
americanidyut 4 years ago
pos!!
krazzyyo2 4 years ago
PS: that civic is badly tunned...BAD
Angel86huang 4 years ago
remember that honda is not using turbo....rx-7 does. so honda doesn't suck.
Angel86huang 4 years ago
This video is not about power.. Turbo or not, this video is about how the car is tuned for the track.. And you were right about ur second comment, that the civic is badly tuned for this track.. BTW, thats RE Amemiya RX7, theyre the best RX7 tuners and knows how to make their RX7s turn corners like Integras, which make this match uneven...
Filipinoborn 4 years ago
No, this video is about FWD vs RWD. FWD is not meant for the track. And no, you don't tune an RX7 to turn like an integra. You tune an integra to turn like an rx7.
rotarychainsaw 4 years ago
stfu FWD's CAN own on a time attack track, thats the stupidiest thing I've ever read. Research the Type R Civic and Integras and all you'll see them owning in is on a track. Oh, minus the occassional drag race of a swapped USDM Civic taking a Mustang GT.
americanidyut 4 years ago
ill take my FC33(the american 2nd gen is actually FC33 and NOT FC3S) and i would take it over a civic or lancer, or impreza any day.
Truenofan 4 years ago
dont they ever learn that civics cant win against a real sports car? wow he cant brake either.
Truenofan 4 years ago
Real sports cars? That hatch is probably nothing compared to what it was stock. And this is a Japanese video, obviously they would know how to properly modify their own cars to run well. I love the hatchbacks, they are great tuners for track racing.
americanidyut 4 years ago
Hahahah, honduhs are no match for rx7s.
supremewhip 4 years ago
once again.. ricers lose!
xenoreiatsu 4 years ago
That is such a stupid and typical comment. That Civic is not rice, I'd like to see what you drive take it on the track. Obviously, Civics can be properly modified if they are racing it against tat rx7, which is by no means stock either.
americanidyut 4 years ago
Honda suck.. I guess a stock skyline R32 GTR cant take it but I dont have the money for the APEXI parts right now.. im unemployed and working on getting the money for a 2008 Lancer Evo X
xenoreiatsu 4 years ago
Nice, another awd turboed car on the menu for my turboed SINGLE CAM 96 honda hatch. I've already beaten a guy with a 05 WRX STi.
americanidyut 4 years ago
Im sure it was because of all those stickers that give +10 hp each.. wow you beat an 05 Subie STi.. well don't be to proud of yourself beating a stock car..
xenoreiatsu 4 years ago
LoL you really are a dumbass... I would have alot to be proud of asshat, thats a 300+hp awd turboed car, that retails for 35grand. My car and setup barely ran over 8g's. Something to think about. The sticker pun is old, stfu dumbass. Your talking to a tuner, not a "ricer".
americanidyut 4 years ago
used skyliens are 13-18k stock and mileage.. sure they cost more than your crappy civic, but its able to do more styles of driving. Its not your shitty lil car is safer or can do drifting, touge, rally or autox aswell a skyline.. even if the thing is upgraded enough to have same torque/horsepower.
xenoreiatsu 4 years ago
My crappy Civic eh? I've got the same body and chassis used on the original type r. My car can participate in time attack, drag, and auto x! Drifting is cool, but for show and hard on a car. You go faster when you stick, not when you drift. Rally racing is hard as hell on a car, but awd's do take the cake on that. Hell, they would just about beat anything in that category. Buying a skyline for that is a DEAL, so don't even compare it to modding a Civic. Civics are cheap, cost effective tuners.
americanidyut 4 years ago
yes, it is cheap which leaves you with more money to modify but also it has no style or credibility.. lots of dumb ass ricers have honda hatchbacks and think they are the shit. I know that cars like the skyline r32 are overrated and fairly heavy but they have some title and uniqueness and thats why I like it. Also Its not called "stick" its called grip ._.
xenoreiatsu 4 years ago
Stick, grip same thing. Yeah, so what if there are ricers with Civic hatches? They give tuners a bad name. The hatches are sweet, you're a fool to say they are not unique, they can be made that way. In Japan, Honda has been making the Type R line in the hatches until this past year with the 4 door. As Americans, we get the shaft on the best JDM stuff. Personally, I prefer boost over the n/a JDM approach b/c you can make more power with a turbo.
americanidyut 4 years ago
you mean the mugen? I don't like honda.. I hate them and fwd. I work at a honda dealership and I've driven many hondas but other than the sensitivity of the steerwheel compared to other cars, I don't like them.
xenoreiatsu 4 years ago
Yes, Mugen and Spoon Sports, they both mainly work on building the DOHC vtec motors. Some of them are pretty bad, revving 11,000+ rpms, and making power that far! I won't sit here and lie that being fwd they don't have their limitations, but wtf man, they make some of the best fwd cars in the world. The CTR and ITR have been some phenomenal track cars past few years. Honestly, I will move on to bigger things, what have you to say about the NSX?
americanidyut 4 years ago
sure, its a nice car and its RWD I love its aesthetics and ability but it wasn't built like those cheap civics and I dont like hatchbacks. I don't like FWD because im into drifting and FWD can't drift, they can only slide.
xenoreiatsu 4 years ago
Why do you say a Civics were built cheap? Civics are probably built just as good as any other 4cyl car American made. As a matter of fact, Civics are pretty much the best economical 4cyl built on the market period. All it takes is aftermarket stab bars, strut bars, good shocks and lowering springs, and you have a totally diff animal. Same with the motor, boost it or get the junk out and swap a beefier motor.
americanidyut 4 years ago
I didn't say built cheap, I was referring to the retail price as low priced. I know they are famous for their good gas mileage and cheap price.
xenoreiatsu 4 years ago
Does price really come into factor? If you're not talking about it being built cheap?
"don't like FWD because im into drifting and FWD can't drift, they can only slide." is a retarded statement by the way lol. you're true about it not being able to drift but do you really not like FWD vehicles because you're into "drifting"? I don't see the reason to dislike a FWD vehicle because of it's inability to drift, not like you're drifting every single corner on the street right?
heyitzthatfc 4 years ago
Btw, just look at how hatchbacks have become the next big thing with fast sport compacts. Mini-cooper, Focus SVT and RS, Civic Type R, not too mention in Europe Peugeot and BMW have some nice hatch cars.
americanidyut 4 years ago
well I prefer sedan or coupe at any rate.. and Honda has such generic looking head/tail lights. The newer honda accords even look like toyota camrys. yuck!
xenoreiatsu 4 years ago
eg...
FloridaRon 4 years ago