Economic, social and cultural rights for all

[Ozzy8181]

We, peoples of the world, couldn't unite against the evil, the oppressor, the authority. Just because you guys been Christians, I been Turkish, they been liberals, Igor been a father.. anyways, salute to all kinds of people concerned with different kinds of stuff!

[KulinBan888]

/watch?v=_0GoMgh8v9U

poor children are dying!!! look and see ! :( and say NO to killing of children Libya!

Let the world see what NATO doing in Libya :(

[ForAVoluntarySociety]

Petitioning the UN wont change anything. The UN is controlled by bank and corporate money. It has no concern for human freedom. They participate in theft, genocide, and plunder. Change must and will come from us not them.

[Madpolis7]

@ForAVoluntarySociety explain please, i honest haven't heard of the UN doing any of that. I'm open to some prospective and right now im sure how i feel about the UN.

[ilikeyouallot]

when?

[ilikeyouallot]

there r no human rights at all is only utopia,we know what is wrong and what is right, but we can't reach the point of reasoning, is no changing nothing is worst than before and see around,i don't see any change.there must be human values, the economical factor is number one, but is just thievery and ridiculous pomposity from the stock market, people is no united in reality, i see our selves every day on the streets.we r very ignorant and happy with our drugs,and life while we don't feel n flesh

[RawanSmile]

I think UN think that palstinains are not humans to exclude them from this right, sham on u UN !!

[calumadair]

What is the song?

[Aliothemage]

Furthermore, do you realize that by giving people entitlements to material goods you are robbing and enslaving others? Instead of having each person EARN what he or she wants in life you would rather we rob a person, at gun point if necessary, of the time and effort of their past labor, or by stealing from those who aren't even born yet by using deficit spending. You are VIOLATING their humans rights and then in an act of supreme hypocrisy you declare this violation a human right in itself!

[vishesfishes]

The only way to stop this is to stop the fuel needed to keep a system that will allways be CORRUPT going. This is the Symptom not the (Bad Guy). Fix the System end this... it just tacks you...

Zeitgeist Movemment

Zeitgeist Addendum

(The Venus Project)

[upsidown13]

how come property rights are missing from the enumeration?

[dkrustyklown]

@upsidown13

Because Amnesty International is a communist organization that is determined to end national sovereignty and replace it with international socialism.

[vthilton]

Without sharing the world's resources there will be no world justice. Without world justice there will be no world peace. Without world peace there will be no world. These 3 principles must be gained and maintained through effort and work.

[manoman0]

As if from commi-lovers like you we could expect a better world. Go lie somewhere else...

[manoman0]

@Aliothemage - Phew..and I thought I'm alone on this...

[Ansob1]

@Aliothemage Unfortunately for you, 48 countries disagree with your bullshit claims. "Human rights" is nothing more or less than what the Universal Declaration of Human Rights defines them as, and it DOES list the right to work, food and housing; and the two Covenants both reaffirm these rights and add the right to water.

Might want to actually do your homework next time you want to claim something like that.

[Aliothemage]

@Ansob1

Lol, do my homework ehh?

Tell me. How does a human on a desert island receive his right to a job, house, and food? Human Rights are inherent until violated by other humans. Each man, even on a desert isle, has his life, liberty, freedom of speech, ect.

The things YOU are talking about are ENTITLEMENTS. I know all about that "declaration" and it is simply wrong. If all 48 of those countries declared that 2+2=3 it wouldn't make it correct either.

[Ansob1]

@Aliothemage Except 2+2=4 is maths, which is an absolute science. Human rights exist only by consensus of the international community which unfortunately for you, you don't represent, and the UN does.

[Aliothemage]

@Ansob1

The point was that is someone is wrong about something, they don't become right when other people agree with them. How about this instead: Would those 48 countries be right if they declared Hitler to be worthy of sainthood?

By YOUR definition it could be declared a human right that each person be given a slave for life as long as the UN said so.

I'm talking about something that is right, regardless of consensus. You might want to do some "homework" on the philosophy of Rights.

[Ansob1]

@Aliothemage You don't seem to understand the legal or philosophical concept of human rights. There are no natural human rights. There is no law of nature that stipulates that homo sapiens sapiens has *any* rights, and there certainly isn't anything that stipulates he has certain rights but not others.

*Human* rights only exist by consensus definition by the international community, and what defines them is the International Bill of Human Rights.

[Aliothemage]

Let me explain something to you. I did poorly in high school, mostly out of laziness. My parents had no money to help me with any further education. So, I went off and worked and saved money for 4 years. I then went back to school and worked part time for 2 years while earning my associates. I got a 4.0 and was accepted into a good school and I have saved up enough money to get my masters without needing any financial aid from my parents or the govt. I am poor, but I need no entitlements.

[Ansob1]

@Aliothemage Anything not presently in the IBHR is not a human right, simple as, because the actual, legal definition of "a human right" is what's in the IBHR.

Now, allowing for a moment the existence of natural human rights, your original claim is still monumentally stupid. Anyone who claims "human rights" shouldn't include a right to food, water, a house and a job to pay for all these things has obviously never experienced what it is to be unemployed and financially poor.

[Aliothemage]

@Ansob1 Not at all. I'm sorry but the IBHR doesn't have a monopoly on determining what a human right is.

It is impossible to have a right to a job. Rights are about things you can't do to a justly do to a person. For example you can't justly take a person' life, liberty, or property. What you are talking about are ENTITLEMENTS. People who support entitlements just want to piggyback on the respect true rights deserve.

And just so you know, I AM poor by the standards of my country.

[Ansob1]

@Aliothemage The IBHR *does* have a monopoly on determining what a human right is because the IBHR *is* what defines what a human right is. It's the only document that has the legal right to do so.

And until money is no longer a basic requirement to survive in our society, people will always have the right to a means of making enough to live.

[Aliothemage]

@Ansob1 Lol, you mean it has a monopoly on it cuz it says it does. Nice. Well, I have a monopoly on it. I took it from them, and since I just said so it must mean something. At least, going by your standards.

You've ignored that it is IMPOSSIBLE for many of those things to be rights because in order to fulfill them you have to oppress other people. Rights don't work like that. Rights are things people have INNATELY. You are born with life and liberty for example.

[Aliothemage]

No, that's a bit off. They don't have the right to a means of making enough to live, they have the right to freely work to survive. That does't mean they have the right to a particular MEANS of making a living. They just can't be prevented from pursuing some line of work unless it would use force or fraud against others. They don't have the right to force people to employ them, which is what a right to a job would mean.

[happyflea]

@Aliothemage Bullshit.

[Aliothemage]

@happyflea

Ohh, I bet you say that to EVERYONE who points out when you're wrong about something!

lol.

[TaiideV]

i love this video, but do you think there is any way you could send me this? I would love to use this for a presentation i have about economic rights. It is perfect.

[ivanaklaric]

UNwilling

[stalkermonolith]

Kill the judges! Kill the Corporations! Destroy their infrastrucures, buildings, and vehicles!!!!!! Fight for freedom!!!!!! THE TRUTH WILL WIN!

[evitorino]

This is UN bullshit.

[stalkermonolith]

To every corporation: Hungary is not for sale!

[stalkermonolith]

First we must vanquish the mafias forces all on the world. Then the collaborants.

[gunsandbullhorns]

This video is a good example of why it's important for a populous to be armed.

I don't have faith in the U.N. Frankly, I view them as the "evil plunderers" that are depicted early in this movie.

[RomeoCo]

I appreciate this video and it's message, although my faith in the UN to properly address these problems has dwindled away to near nothingness.

[HesseinSEO]

as we know that UN is useless but i really liked the ad :)

[94folle]

Any one in the UN will tell you that any justice has not been accomplished by VETO. I can't see how this scenario is true or when it has been accomplished... ever

[Khaleban]

I am not sure this is the role which UN is playing.

[fettergraf]

since when does this imperialist capitalist organization care about the poor?

[Spenner56]

YES,YES, basic human rights for us all and under UN protection and not the EU !

Luckily the "European" Court of Justice court does not have a mandate over us Germans as our Constitutional Court recently ruled against this !

Big Brother is coming with the constitution/Lisbon treaty !

Google EU Corpus Juris, Fair Trials International, european Defence Force and Open Europe !

Long live real European democracy !

Europe YES ! Brussels NO !

[blackcat445577]

this is a moving Video. in school we had a this Amnesty International thing set up and we would help fight to get back human rights I am glad I helped out

[Baltican]

Theres a large diffirence between rights and privilleagues. (lol, hope i got that right)

Food and water - not a right.

They aught to be, but they ain´t.

[xonic66]

Is this a Pro-Socialist Video? Cuz if it is it will be the first thing amnesty international has ever done right, Got right or even Said Right...

[Zahtael]

amazing video! :)

[Albyiscool]

what are cultural rights?

nice image of greedy corporations tearing down people's houses...because they can just steal land and there aren't businesses that actually sell houses to people right?

I would be horrified if the UN tried to intervene in my country's economy

[EdiForNewFriends]

you are nothing but a big hypocrite just go and close and release the world from your lies, the only human rights you go after are the ones that don't exist in the regimes that you don't like, but your allies regimes are untouched and above the laws

[bellinivernon]

Exelente ! ; gracias ,desde argentina.

[deedee1067]

Fairness and equal rights for all.

[DoomHippie]

Haha! To bad that the UN doesn't do that! All it does it is is a Global Democracy, and the Flaw in Democracy is that it is simply Majority Rule! Screw the poor minorities, the rich majority wants more power!

The only systems that will work are Libertarian, Localized, Small Government Systems! Wake Up World! One organization simply cannot govern us All fairly!

[vishesfishes]

@DoomHippie Recourse basted economy

The only way to stop this is to stop the fuel needed to keep a system that will allways be CORRUPT going. This is the Symptom not the (Bad Guy). Fix the System end this... it just tacks you...

Zeitgeist Movemment

Zeitgeist Addendum

(The Venus Project)

[oipolloi1]

@DoomHippie

The 'Rich majority', LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

[evildude220]

@DoomHippie Can you give us real world examples of "Libertarian, Localized, Small Government Systems" that worked?... Yeah I thought so.

[DoomHippie]

@evildude220

Yes.

Early United States.

[Mike10four]

@evildude220 A prerequisite to economic, social and cultural harmony is through the Rights of: Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. These Rights are part of the Laws of Nature and apply to all life and social systems throughout the world. Too often those in power are ignorant of, or ignore the forces of Nature resulting in misery. Education of these Rights is the proper course of action, starting with the proof outlined in: watch?v=tdNYVZQYJqI

[tumadros]

@DoomHippie I honestly don't think you know what you're talking about. Why are you receiving upvotes?

FYI Libertarianism will give the "rich majority" more power than they already have.

[DoomHippie]

@tumadros

Bullcrap, my man. Health Care reform is lobbied FOR by big corporations, big farming get's subsidies, Walmart lobbies for more worker benefits.

Look at where corporate lobbying money goes, it goes to bigger government, not smaller. This is because big government is always corrupt and can be bought out. And when the government is bought out, all those "socialist" laws do is work against small business, big business's competition.

[tumadros]

@DoomHippie The only thing you've accomplished in this paragraph is demonstrate your lack of knowledge of our current political system, and oversimplify the political environment. Nice try; see Lemon Socialism. All other leading industrialized countries condemn this practice. And the main reason why it's so successful is because of the intellectually anemic population of America, such as yourself.

[DoomHippie]

@tumadros

Facts my friend. I demand facts. Care to site the money spent by healthcare companies? And where that spending is directed?

[clocloclocloclooclo]

@DoomHippie the UN doesn't seek to govern anyone and if you stopped indulging in the fashionable notion that they are useless you would see that the United Nations has had a great impact on the world, through providing a forum for negotiation, instruments for sanctioning nations that disrupt peace and I think most importantly committees that uncover information.

Also I would dispute your poor minorities/rich majorities statement, as I think you'll find rich people don't get more votes...

[DoomHippie]

@clocloclocloclooclo

Please name an incident where the UN brought together negotiations and prevented a war. Then, please contrast to the number of times that they have initiated warlike behavior (including sanctions).

[clocloclocloclooclo]

@DoomHippie

hahahah!!! they have initiated warlike behaviour twice bro, once against NK in 1950 and the second time last week to prevent qaddafi from murdering his one citizens, both 'initiations of warlike behaviour' i whole heartedly support. as for preventing war and promoting peace, go google UN peacekeeping. 16 active missions right now. daawwww were you expecting a cough, a splutter and a hypothetical answer?

[clocloclocloclooclo]

@DoomHippie To summarise go back to your sharehouse in your anarchist village.

[cmadison93]

@DoomHippie

Dogmatism is a dangerous thing.

[ivanstoyan]

organisms do not produce food in order to survive...what is "sustaining human life"...Do we need that?

[mccaslin7575]

LONG LIVE PUNKY BREWSTER!

[LastTrueLiberal]

This is a classic appeal to emotion! No logic. No argument. No reason. Just provocative emotional appeal. You don't have the "right" to education, housing, food, shelter, etc. because you don't have the right to force people to serve you at gunpoint. You don't have the right to violently extort the labor of others.

[philosoisgrt]

I think your missing the point ..i see what your saying but your looking at it as an individual perspective not as a harmonious society. Is it fair that the only way most can get an education is if they have money? Is it fair that you need money to eat when food doesnt need money to grow. Its making the claim that we as humanity belong to each other and we share the planet together. And in understanding this more deeply ..violently extorting the labors of others is being completly outdated.

[LastTrueLiberal]

I am not missing the point. You are missing a fundamental understanding of the most basic laws of economics. If you are to say, "everyone is entitled to a house", you must ask yourself, "who's house am I entitled to?", and furthermore, "how am I to obtain this house?" If you are to say, "everyone is entitled to medical care.", you must ask yourself, "which doctor must be forced to treat my illness", or, "who owes me medical care and how am I to extract what is due to me?" Violence solves nothing

[philosoisgrt]

So the only perfect society is one that has an economic system involved? Dont you see my connection and yours? Take some time to think out what im saying. I know your used to what you see and think that it is correct just becuase everyone revolves around it.

[LastTrueLiberal]

Of course the only perfect society is one in which an economic system exists. Without an economic system there would not exist any goods to be consumed. We would all die of starvation. Organisms must produce in order to survive. It is the same biological law across the board with the exception of plants and probably some sea creatures I am unaware of.

[philosoisgrt]

Organisms need to produce what in order to survive money or food which one is the edible one?

[LastTrueLiberal]

Organisms must produce food in order to survive... That was the crux of my argument. That's why it is necessary for humans to produce food in order to survive. Without production and allocation of goods and services, i.e. economy, humans life can not exist. Without prices, rational allocation of goods and calculation errors arise. It is called the "Economic Calculation Problem" and it was documented by Ludwig von Mises in the twentieth century.

[philosoisgrt]

Ok so a money based society gives those goods and services to do those who dont have money as well? You need to start looking at whats "ethical". Is what your saying completly ehtical?

[LastTrueLiberal]

No. A money system allows for pricing which rations goods and services. The price you pay for a good or service is only a little above the cost of its production. It's an economic concept known as "fair market price". A price system ensures that goods and services are allocated according to value and necessity to other producers.

[philosoisgrt]

Your going in circles and not thinking on any of my questions. Obviously you passionatly agree with what you say and I think you should do some independent thinking and ask yourself if what you say and believe is truly ethical. I doubt you will find the real answer in a few minutes. So itll take some time. But if you question everything you believe you will certainly become much more wiser.

[LastTrueLiberal]

You don't have the right to condescend here. Economics is a topic which has interested me for years. These are the sort of things I put much thought and argument into on a regular basis. It is very clear to me that your ideas are riddled with logical inconsistencies and a fundamental ignorance of the subject of economics. There is no intrinsic value to the paper you call "money" itself. The value is created, hence the term "making money", from the production by rational economic actors.

[philosoisgrt]

Logical inconsistencies? Well if you werent so stuck on economics being the "end all" of all problems you would see that there is no riddle : ). And im not putting you down dont think that at all. Your a smart person but everyone is not perfect neither am I. I just want you to look at things in other perspective. Thats why I say it. What I say shouldnt be taken in that way. I love you bro..lol

[LastTrueLiberal]

Economics was the focal point of the discussion. You started with the assertion that a medium of exchange for the nonviolent, mutually beneficial, voluntary allocation of resources should not exist at all. Your perspective on this issue, with all due respect, is totally ignorant, and lacks a fundamental understanding of the relationship between currency and the production of resources. Currency has no intrinsic value. It is only a medium of exchange representative of goods and services.

[LastTrueLiberal]

The only conceivable reason people would advocate a system without currency is if they believed such profoundly ignorant logical fallacies as, "the power to get more money.. is the reason why the guns and whips are in the picture." This, in all honesty, is one of the most ignorant statements about economics I have ever heard in my entire life. It equivecates trade with coercion. The two activities are opposite. The difference between them is the difference between voluntaryism and violence.

[philosoisgrt]

So there are no side effects in an economic system?

[LastTrueLiberal]

I don't know what you mean..

[LastTrueLiberal]

You may not realize that a system of guarenteed priviledge is necessarily founded upon the violent extortion of labor. You may not realize that money has no intrinsic value, and that printing bundles of it to hand out to poor people, a policy the United States federal government is already fully engaged in, does not create wealth, but it doesn't. Currency is given value by the amount goods and services available. It is given value by production. It has no intrinsic value.

[philosoisgrt]

"I think your missing the point ..i see what your saying but your looking at it as an individual perspective not as a harmonious society. Is it fair that the only way most can get an education is if they have money? Is it fair that you need money to eat when food doesnt need money to grow. Its making the claim that we as humanity belong to each other and we share the planet together. And in understanding this more deeply ..violently extorting the labors of others is being completly outdated"

[LastTrueLiberal]

And I fundamentally disagree with your axiom that "we belong to each other." I am not your property, and you are not mine. I do not belong to you, and you do not belong to me. My body and mind are mine exclusively, and no individual can justly make a claim upon them.

[philosoisgrt]

Thats a superficial thought. You have no clue to what im sayin.

[philosoisgrt]

what does that mean to you ?

[LastTrueLiberal]

That is called an appeal to emotion. It is a common logical fallacy. It is not an argument. By saying things such as, "is it fair that you need money to eat when food doesn't need money to grow?" you are missing the entire purpose of currency. This has nothing to do with currency, and everything to do with production. Currency has no intrinsic value. It is fair that if you do not contribute to the production of goods, you can not consume them without voluntary grants from others.

[LastTrueLiberal]

Currency is NOT wealth. Goods and services are wealth. Currency is representative of goods and services. Those who contribute to production have a rightful claim to the fruits of said production, or the production of other goods (although without currency, you must barter goods to consume that which you did not produce directly making preferble allocation of resources extremely difficult). With or without currency, you must produce in order to consume, or live off the good will of others.

[philosoisgrt]

Only those who contribute? Your stuck on the "self".

[LastTrueLiberal]

Yes I am! Absolutely. You can't compel other people to live and labor for the sake of others. Slavery is immoral, regardless of the end it promotes. You can't compel producers at gunpoint to produce for nonproducers. That's totally immoral. Guns and threats must be reserved only for criminals.

[DoomHippie]

The "Self" is the only true way! Individualism, not Collectivism! Forcing people to do things for "the benefit of all" only leads to more resentment and hate!

Giving money to the poor is good, but one should not be forced to do so. If we force a rich person to give his money to the poor, he will only begin to resent the poor.

Where as trying to pursuade him to Freely give his money to the poor, and appealing to his concience will make the Real Change happen!

Charity cannot be forced.

[LastTrueLiberal]

The paper is only used as a medium of exchange. I think you're under the silly impression that the paper itself must have a sort of intrinsic value, and that we can feed, clothe, and shelter all by merely running a printing press all day. Money is nothing. It has no intrinsic value. It is simply representative of goods and services. You ought to understand this before making an ass of yourself on comment sections. I reject your uninformed opinions on both a logical and especially a moral level.

[LastTrueLiberal]

You seriously need a course on ethics, because you do not know how to reason from first principles. You have voiced support for public services such as public education, healthcare, shelter, etc. Again, if everyone has a right to shelter, then who's house do you have a right to? Someone has to produce these goods and services. The only way to distribute them to those most needy is to forcefully take them with guns.

[philosoisgrt]

Lol just re-read my last comment and go back to my first comments and see if what your claiming to what im saying is what im saying.

[LastTrueLiberal]

What are you talking about? Of course it is what you have been saying. You've been arguing like a first century Christian this entire time.

[philosoisgrt]

I think the biggest offense to human rights is right under our noses and no one even notices. This one makes a slave of us all and is the reason for chaos and destruction. Its the money system, no other thing in the world has more power than that. But yet its the fundamental cause to all the problems in the world and to us individually. Lets look at the root of the problem and not just say "defend our human rights" without knowing why they get violated in the first place.

[LastTrueLiberal]

"Its the money system..." The only alternative to voluntary exchange of goods and services coercion. When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men. Whips and guns, or dollars. Those are our choices.

[philosoisgrt]

So your saying whips and guns dont already exist with this money system? What incentive is there by having these guns and whips?..the power to get more money which is the reason why the guns and whips are in the picture.

[LastTrueLiberal]

To make money legitimately, one must participate in trade and production. There are no guns and whips in the picture of voluntary financial transactions between consenting individuals. You are either extremely ignorant of economics, or a liar, to submit such a fallacious argument. The allocation of resources in the absence of a price rationing system is not only irrational and subject entirely to the arbitrary whim of an elite minority, but also reliant upon the coercive management of the state.

[LastTrueLiberal]

The state extorts and distributes the labor of innocent people, deciding what is produced, how much is produced, and who gets what. The state monopolizes all resources and everybody is forced by gun to labor in its service. It's called a command economic system, and it is the alternative to an economy in which their exists a medium of exchange for nonviolent, voluntary, mutually beneficial economic transactions.

[philosoisgrt]

Well what your saying is the complete opposite of what im saying..who gives the state the power? They themselves or we do? Your not comprehending what i said.

[LastTrueLiberal]

The state assumes power. I don't give the state its power. You don't give the state its power. I don't consent to its rule. I don't know if you do, but there exists no contract. But you are still missing the point, "because who gives the state its power" is irrelevant to the fundamental issue at hand, that issue being, the existance of state schools is entirely reliant upon the existance of guns and rape rooms. The underlying violence you don't see, because everyone pays their protection money.

[philosoisgrt]

But the state need who to have power? ME AND YOU BUDDY. Your views are a little off your giving me problems that arise the way you see them. And by doing that you continue to miss my point.

[LastTrueLiberal]

The state needs us to have power in the same way that a cattle rancher needs livestock in order to have a market share in his respective industry. Again, that is totally irrelevant. It's not an argument at all. My point is that a nonviolent economically sound system resting on the foundations of consent and mutually beneficial voluntary transactions is far preferable to an economically chaotic system based entirely on coercion and labor extortion.

[philosoisgrt]

Your wrong and go back to my first comments and tell me if thats what is really seen?

[LastTrueLiberal]

As long as some human beings choose life instead of death, there MUST be an economic system which produces the necessary goods and services for sustaining human life. This is an inescapable biological reality. The difference between me and you is that you favor a violent system and I favor a nonviolent system.

[philosoisgrt]

Your system is the violent one..lol are you kidding? A biological reality huh? So were hard wired through evolution that an economic system must exist in order for us to survive and sustain life? You might get an nobel prize if you can find that in our DNA.

[LastTrueLiberal]

Yes! Of course we are hard wired to work in order to sustain our lives. We biologically require food in order to survive. How is food produced? How are these resources to be divided? These are economic questions. An economic system is simply the system a species uses to produce and consume.

[philosoisgrt]

An economic question or of taking care of one other?..which the two do not connect

[98741236500000]

Very uplifting movie. I wish it was so in real life... The UN doesn't do jack-squat now though. Notice how it all was happening in the boy's "dream" bubble :(

¡Pero sí, la película es stupendoso!

[asturiasverde]

Decir que el video es bueno se queda corto. FELICIDADES!, magnífico trabajo!

[92RedRevolver]

Are you going to upload the video with julian rhind tutt in it?

[satbir15]

SIXTH!

[WenchuEdison]

I hope the UN takes tougher action in the near future as tough as its name"UN"...

[AT24601]

At befrie fra undertrykkelse, to free from oppression.

We live in a world we have created by our selfs, but there are some people who haven't had a chance to say stop when other people went over them, and created the world for their lives, in a terrible way...

[84guepaje]

great work.

Por favor,en Colombia están pasando hechos demasiados desfavorables para la poca democracia que nos queda, es hora que los ojos de todas las organizaciones mundiales hagan acusaciones contra el gobierno de Alvaro Uribe Vélez. Es hora de actuar.

[womanfromyemen]

great illustration! although i dont necessarily think that the UN solves every problem, in some instances it has, and at least it tries to. regardless, this is a great video.

[kenlucas77]

i second that...