I'm an author of horror fiction. I have a talent for putting myself in the mind of a villian, although I'm not a villian myself, and to be honest, seeing these women speakers make themselves look powerful while putting down men and being surrounded by sluts dancing and smiling and carrying "we love sluts" signs, I think a lot of rapists would only laugh at that, or fuel their rage. It almost seems like spoof of an anti-rape march. The men this protest will reach are already non-rapists, like me.
Instead of encouraging women that dressing like a whore is okay, why don't we just educate others of the horrors of rape? Why don't we encourage NOT TO RAPE?
This won't help anything. It's as though they think sexual assault will stop. I'd rather see a place with less rape than more women parading around with barely any clothes on.
While you participate in your Slutwalk, I'm going to volunteer at a battered women's shelter or donate to promote female literacy in places it isn't allowed. Peace.
In response to a robbery on the street, a police officer was quoted as saying "it's not smart to have hundred dollar bills hanging out of your wallet in public." That victim blaming s.o.b.!!!! I'm proposing a wealth walk in my city, where we all walk around with money hanging out of our pockets to show everyone that it's always the robber's fault. Who's with me?!!!!
"Slutwalk" takes it's name from the police officer at York University. He said that if women stopped dressing like sluts that they would stop being raped.
and... even momorman women dressed in prarie attire who have been victims of rape. however i agree that a lot of their message got lost as i believe a lot of the girls believed in the idea of the march but succombed to a chance to put their sexiness on parade. in south africa they did this but they put slutty clothes over their regular street clothes... i would have taken them more seriously
THE COP WAS WRONG WRONG WRONG... its been proved time and time again that clothing is not a deciding factor in the majority of rapes that occur. anyone who makes that claim is not educated in the matter and should sit the fuck down because you are channeling a myth that is as old and lame as rape itself. a sweater vest will not protect you from a rapist. for every hot n tot women who has ever been raped there are just as many normally dressed women (90 year olds in housecoats, children, and...
@jpocahontasc Surely clothes don't ALWAYS speak on behalf of victims of rape. Duh. It'll happen anyways. Duh. But the issue here is that its HIGHLY unrealistic to think that what you wear has no influence on the way people react on the outset. Were you ever a goth (or a similar outcast) in high school? If you were, then you'd understand the way you dress directly influences how others treat/perceive you. That's fucking reality. Or have you been clouded by all the granola inspired activism?
@jpocahontasc By the way, I bet on my life that no one will ever want to rape Hilary Clinton. Wanna take a fucking guess why?? I think you know the goddamn answer. No more of this male demonizing shit, the lion's share of us only react to a stimulus. If you're too dumb to understand that, let's put it this way: If you sell it, we'll probably buy it.
I think the cop was right. Take two identical twins, one wearing a bikini and one wearing a trench coat... Wonder which one is a bigger target? Im not saying its right, but I am saying that comment holds some water...
A way a person is dress is NO EXCUSE TO RAPE but I want to bring something just as bad the DORKS out there when people judge you because want to date a DORK I been label that in my teen years and actually thought about killing myself back then maybe we need a DORK WALK if we all start really caring about people these things should not happen.
I was also warned by some 'fascist' cop not to walk through inner city areas with $100 bills pinned to my jacket. How dare he? If I want to wear money on my jacket who is he to warn me that it increases my vunerability? I'm tired of repression in the form of being warned about my safety by professionals who deal with related incidents on a regular basis. Don't they realise that people get mugged even when they hide money in their shoe? I should therefore be able to pin mine to my jacket.
Any man who walks in a parade like that is either A queer or cultural subversive Jew trying to undermine whatever is left of Christian civlisation, or both.
If this is a slut walk, can there be a juxtaposing pimp walk? Seriously, where the pimps basically slap these sluts and turn them out? Hey "slut" if you're going to objectify yourself, you mine as well go the full Monty! I say bring in an experienced crew of Russian, Black, and Colombian pimps to truly make it an equal opportunity gathering. P.S. Kidnapping, raping, drug muling and other licentious acts are non-prosecutable due to false advertising. Ahh, I bet you bitches wouldn't show then!
Some woman on the video said "it's an attempt to reclaim the word slut cause once you reclaim it you take the power from it". WTF is she talking about?
Isn't this about stopping rape? who cares if you're dressed like a slut, women dressed in decent attire unfortunately can also be raped.
Some of those bitches should be fined for indecent exposure…
@elementium Youre obviously finding it difficult to mentally grasp what this protest is about. You're right that women dressed in decent attire can be raped. ANY woman can be raped and it has nothing to do with what she was wearing.
@Nebulous1982 Actually rape is pretty high in Muslim countries, but it goes unreported because women who have been raped can be stoned to death for 'promiscuity' so don't delude yourselves that women don't get raped when they're covered up.
Threats cause Risks in the same way that Diseases cause Symptoms.
The goal is to irradiate threats and diseases. In the meantime, risks are managed, and symptoms are treated. Sexual assaults are symptoms of the social disease of Gender Violence.
A threat is an unwanted event that can happen. Threat management reduces the presence of these threats. Risk mgmt deals with taking preventive measures to reduce the consequences of these events.
PART 2: In terms of sexual assault, risk mgmt involves women taking specific actions to reduce their own risk of being assaulted. But these actions do nothing to reduce the overall threat caused by Gender Violence.
Threat mgmt involves changing the culture of how women are perceived and treated in order to irradiate Gender Violence in society.
It is essential to understand the difference between threats and risks in order to make sense of the discussions of “victim blaming”.
PART 3: The blame for sexual assaults rests completely on the attacker and the culture that gives rise to this type of behavior. The presence of men who sexually assault women in society represent the threat of Gender Violence. The behavior of a woman prior to an assault relates only to risk management. Therefore, the question of “victim blaming” is really only pertains to risk management.
PART 4 : The goal of risk management is to reduce risk. Therefore, it is possible to be completely blameless for an assault and still be faulted for poor risk management. It is possible to practice excellent risk management and still be assaulted. Risk management only minimizes risk. It does not make the threat go away. Threat and risk management are not mutually exclusive. It is possible for both of these methodologies to coexist and work together towards a common end.
PART 4 : The goal of risk management is to reduce risk. Therefore, it is possible to be completely blameless for an assault and still be faulted for poor risk management. It is possible to practice excellent risk management and still be assaulted. Risk management only minimizes risk. It does not make the threat go away. Threat and risk management are not mutually exclusive. It is possible for both of these methodologies to coexist and work together towards a common end.
PART 5: In summary, Slutwalk, Take Back the Night, and other protest marches are intended to eliminate the threat of sexual assault by changing society. Self-defense classes, preventive measures, and police safety talks are intended to reduce the risk of sexual assault. Understanding the concept behind these different methods is essential for people to be able to focus on the common ground as opposed to arguing over the differences.
It doesn't matter what you wear, a rapist will rape anyone, old , young , man or woman. However, if you do wear revealing clothes, you are more likely to get approached by a man and asked for a date (and there might be date rape) so who knows , maybe that Cop had a point.
@reivenne No one ever said it was a woman's fault solely for being raped. But you don't think for one second that dressing a certain way has an influence on how people react to you? Try it one day. Walk around town naked and see if you aren't ogled and maybe feel particularly heightened fear of being sexually assaulted at some point during your adventure. Your logic is flawed. Just because its not a victims fault doesn't excuse personally responsibility for looking like an especially easy target
@ShivaTheAuspicious You're missing the entire point. The point is, men shouldn't THINK that a woman is an easier target (aka "kind of wants it anyway") just because of how she's dressed. No clothing makes anyone an "easier target", that's ridiculous. If rapists were looking for 'easy targets' they'd rape the elderly, disabled, sick or very young, because THESE things influence a persons ability to fight back. NOT clothes.
@reivenne That's the problem with this whole "march". You cannot control another person's thoughts. Do not be so arrogant to think that you can. The way a man feels about a woman is completely subjective and unpredictable. Being a guy myself, I know this very well. It ranges from, "wow, she seems classy and smart...I wanna spend an hour with her to see if its true", all the way to the most primal thoughts you can think of. Accept that this is a part of life. Nobody is "pure"
Furthermore, there is no point to be made. Humans will be humans. MOST of us are FOLLOWERS. You've decided to be a follower to a cause that debates common sense and prehistoric programming. The basic and irrefutable laws of anthropology. Ever watched Jurassic Park? Dr. Ian Malcom (Jeff Goldblum) explains that "life cannot be contained". When you've LIVED for a few years you'll understand why. Throw away your ideologies before it suffocates you.
@ShivaTheAuspicious What you're basically saying is 1) Jurassic Park (a FICTIONAL HOLLYWOOD FILM about DINOSAURS) relates to, and explains what is acceptable human behaviour in the line "life cannot be contained" and stating that we shouldn't bother educating people about the real causes of rape because "that's human nature". You sir, are a fucking idiot.
@reivenne I wasn't expecting you to be at all educated enough to develop any sort of coherent deductions on the subject. Again, I will point out that MANY parents tell their daughters deliberately in their teens years not to dress in a distracting manner, if one is not ready to deal with the attention it typically receives. So, are you gonna march against moms and dads too? Your argument (and the idea of a SlutWalk) lacks consistency.
@ShivaTheAuspicious You used a Hollywood quotec to try and sound "deep" (hah) not because it in any way related to the topic, so there weren't any intelligent deductions to be made.
Also, many parents do tell their teenage daughters to dress appropriately, which is fine. But this march is about grown adult women, who have the choice to dress however the hell we want. The fact is, I don't think very many females have ever gone to the beach, seen a guy in a swimsuit and thought...
@ShivaTheAuspicious ...cont. "Hmm he's scantily clad, guess that means he wants to fuck me." All that Slutwalk hopes to achieve is to educate people that a) It's not the victims fault and b) Rape is always wrong. Period. If you don't get it, there's something wrong with you. If you don't like the mode of delivery, fine. Though, in your case I'd suggest that's because you're a victim blamer already and don't seem intelligent or empathetic enough to understand the whole point.
@ShivaTheAuspicious Also, where do I lack consistency? And yes, I would march against mums and dads that instill in their daughters (and sons) a sense of body shame and promote the idea of victim blaming. Sure, teach your children decency and moderation, but don't use self loathing and shame as a tactic, that just leads to an unhealthy sex life in a lot of girls anyway.
@reivenne "Sure, teach your children decency and moderation.."
I rest my case. You have just contradicted your entire argument in one fell swoop.
BTW teaching moderation has nothing to do with shaming.
Understand this, I totally support a woman who gets raped and wasn't out looking for attention with her clothes etc. However, sluts...you're on your own. You wanted attention and you got it--doesn't matter that it wasn't the type you were looking for. You knew the occupational hazard.
@ShivaTheAuspicious Wow, I hope you get mugged and stabbed. I also hope they whisper in your ear that it's your fault for wearing expensive shoes. You're a victim blaming, ignorant fuckwit and I'm done talking to you.
@reivenne Isn't that the point? Sure I have EVERY right to wear expensive Gucci shoes walking through Crenshaw, but is it smart to? Hell no. If I get mugged/stabbed well that's kinda my fault too huh..I do have to take some responsibility/accountability for being oblivious. Are you gonna tell someone who left an iPod in their OPEN locker that it wasn't their fault someone stole it? No. You're tell them they're a dumbass for leaving their f'n locker open.
@reivenne And btw....you do realize that making insults is detrimental to your credibility, right? I find it a shame that someone your age still thinks with such little common sense.
Women heard the word "slut" and got pissed about it, but they didnt even bother to catch the true meaning off what the officer tried to tell. And yes, I think the cop was right.
And I Dont get it, just dress up like sluts on these walks, and people will think you're sluts. Women demand equality but at the same time do everything the opposite "I'm a women I can do the same thing as men,well okay..maybe not as a fireman, in the military and so on, BUT if you dare to disagree you're a sovinist sexist pig", and the list goes on, women try to realise you're degregading yourself and promoting more hate towards women as men view you as idiots. That slutwalk shows it.
I guess I can drink alcohol and then drive a car because its not dangerous, thats what the slutwalk promotes. I guess I can safely leave my door open when I leave for holiday, because no one robs it. Thats what the slutwalks say.
But the reality is, you cant drink alcohol and drive, and leave your door open, neither can you dress up like a slut on purpose and have massive cleavage with nipples and leggings with t-shirt up so they can see your ass. IT WILL increase your chance of being raped
a women should be able to wear what she wants (self-control people), however claiming the title "slut", I don't see how that helps. These women have too much time on their hand. Ps. where are the hot chicks (this is an rather handsome movement), most of the women in the video looked like...well lets just say a slut should be attractive.
Feminist politics are so 1975. Being the office whore and out-cunting all the rest of the cunts to get that raise is where women are at these days. They're really all whores, it's just that some of them take cash up front, and others run tabs, accepting cars, kitchen renovations and bling as legal tender. The one thing they all have in common is always looking out for a higher bid. Unless they're ugly, then they just fist each other.
Its true dressing modestly does not protect a woman from rape. But dressing slut-like may make matter worse. However,how she wants to dress is her choice.
OMFG!!! I don't see any 'real' sluts! Is it because sluts don't care if I perv at them? Maybe they don't care if you treat them like a whore, thats what makes'em a SLUT!!!
Susan B Anthony would be so proud of these women believing dressing and behaving like whores is freedom. lol I guess Larry Flynt and Max Hardcore were ahead of their time. They were not objectifying women, they were providing a venue for the free expression of their sexuality.
If a man sees a woman dressing "provocatively" and rapes her because she "provoked him" than he's clearly no more in control of his actions than a dog that attacks someone for walking into its territory.
You know what happens to dogs that attack people? They're put down before they can attack someone else.
@finalcloud13 what you mean to say is that YOU would never rape any of these women (because they are not attractive to YOU);though, if you did find them attractive YOU would rape them???!!! Just a heads-up to you to take a little time to formulate your comments a bit more intelligently. If you don't like them, then you don't...nothing wrong with that. However, keep in mind that while you may not be guilty of raping them, Humankind has to take responsibilty for itself. Punkt (period)!
You know that we've failed as a species when half the comments here can't seem to understand, or even justify their reasons to rape. How dare you people assume that men are so stupid that they'd be incapable of consent and disrespect their own sexuality. How dare you people justify rape.
We all know the true reason of SlutWalk! All those ugly girls who never got laid wanted heard they'll get raped dressing like that and HAD to do it. Haha.
@impeachtheretard I'm going to keep this brief, and say that rape is about power not sexuality, and most rape victims were wearing jeans and a t-shirt. I'm not sure how this got voted up, but also if you want to monitor dress ("half naked dumb horny sluts"), then I would personally feel better if you weren't in the United States where we have freedom of speech and expression. Oh yes, and flashing is technically called indecent exposure under the law.
@FrontalTraction They are protesting sex crimes, victim blaming, and "slut shaming" (degrading people based on provocative appearances, adult professions, gender identity, sexual orientation, etc.), and promoting freedom of expression, and sexuality.
@catscan189 Putting rape and slut shaming under the same category and protest them together is senseless. I consider bothy "slutty" and "macho" behaviors gross, silly, inelegant, licit. This is part of my freedom of expression. Rapists' testosterone should be wiped out forever
We all have so much energy and time. Were I a woman, I'd give slut shamers very little of both. I would focus on fighting criminals. And I'd tell younger girls violent guys are not cool. Probably futile though.
@curtisthe6th So, a march of women dressing like sluts wouldn't cure a 'rapist sicko'. In your attempt to make a point, I think you actually made a point. How is a large group of women providing eye candy going to address violence against women? Then what is this really about?
Increasing prison sentences? More slave labor for privatized prisons who don't put any focus on rehabilitation. That's evil genius!
It is incredible how so many educated people can say what they are saying..... The criminals that do these disgusting acts must be rubbing their hands with happiness.
Ignorance in society is what these monsters count on !!!! All of you men who think that these women are asking "for it" need to be educated properly !!!! Geeez when will the Human Race evolve ???????
@Celizamite So, just men think that? Question.. if I walked through a black neighborhood, with a KKK outfit (hood and all) I should be fine right? It's my right to dress how I please and walk on a public street. Anyone who would cause me harm, would do so in violation of my rights and the law. My male brain says no. It's called common sense and if you want to put your ass (literally) out there to test the evolution of the human race, go right ahead. Meanwhile, I'll keep my hood out of the hood.
@Brajabu74 You pose a very intelligent argument , but the facts are that "rapists" do not choose their victim on how they are dressed, it is a crime of opportunity. If someone is going to rape they do not really care what the victim is wearing. This crime is nothing to do with sexuality. The crime is based on a need for power and control of the victim. A bit like a serial killer.
@Celizamite I agree that part of the equation is opportunity. I am not completely denying power as part of the equation either, but as a male I can with complete confidence assure you that visual appeal is a large part. We are visual creatures, we have tried to explain this to you over and over and... You are applying your logic to men. Basically denying that we have different thought processes. It's fitting a square peg into a round hole with a hammer. You got it in, but it still doesn't fit.
@Brajabu74 Specious. A "large part"? "Visual creatures"? "Logic" applied to men, not women? This is the fuzzy thinking that leads to religious delusions and conformity.
@grubelsucht Uh, you missed my point on every one. 'large part' - human actions are multi-faceted I am not going to explain that to you. 'Visual Creatures' - men are visually stimulated much more than women. Ahhh PORN! Again, why are you raising this as specious? Feminists hold firm to the 'Power' theory. It's like me assuming my girlfriend has the same sexual motivations I do. Applying my logic to the opposite sex regarding sex is disastrous.. I learned this as a teenager. What's 'Fuzzy'?
@Brajabu74 Putting aside the main issue here and the limited space available, I'm saying that such logic would not serve well in a writing class as you offer no supporting reasons or reference for your claims. For example (and you may already know this): "Split twin studies show strong behavioral parallels so that one might determine behavior to be genetically motivated." Or: "The Oslo Chief of Police states that Muslims have committed all the rapes there--despite no available statistics."
@grubelsucht Writing class? I need to offer proof that multiple factors are present in human actions? You need proof? Primary stimulation for men is visual (besides touch). Are you offering a counter opinion? Are you challenging my statement or are you one of those people who has to have the last word. No matter how incoherent. The two studies you mentioned. Why? 'Might determine' Muslim rapes in Norway? It seems to be very important for you to one-up, but try disputing a point with a point.
@Celizamite the human race will evolve when redundant elements or gone. people who use to many exclamation\question marks and periods would be a good start.
It's true that you can avoid being raped by not dressing like sluts. You can avoid theft by keeping valuables hidden. It's common sense, and these people lack it.
@FrontalTraction You are mistaken. Women are raped whatever they wear. Culture creates the rapists just as culture creates thieves. The women are trying to change the culture. If we all went about naked nudity would not so readily sexually arouse others.
How underwhelming. Most of them are dressed like they're doing the gardening or something. And some of the obese ones would have more chance in being raped in a burka.
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Yes because "male privilege" makes men unwilling or unable to see the problem with "rape". Instead they call women names, blame feminist for men's ability to control themselves like HUMAN BEINGS instead of beasts *worse than animals* I wonder how different it would be if men could easily be attacked for NO reason and have some uninvited dick shoved into their orifices. I wonder if "rapist" would get off so easy if the shoe was on the other foot.
@tatumforbes Yeah, because traditionally women do more time for other crimes... BULLSHIT! Every single statistic relating to crime vs. sentencing would prove you wrong. I know being a victim all the time is intoxicating for you, but you cannot apply it everywhere. Especially if you're going to claim men would punish women more. That is an outright lie. We are programmed to let you slide... we do it every month. btw. men are victims of violent crimes much much more than women.
@catscan189 How are slutwalks going to stop people from calling sluts and slutwalks idiotic and pointless and as a result mocking them relentlessly? You sluts aren't doing your gender any favors here.
Remember girls, with all of your anger at men. Its not us calling you sluts, we love it when you advertise your cheep goods...its the other ladies who call you that.
Eek, I hate to make this point, but feel compelled to. Don't you have to be able to get some action to be considered a slut? Judging from some on this video....well I think most people know where I'm going. Leave the poor cop alone. It's no big deal. I know you libs are always looking for a cause when you should be looking for a bar of soap, but calm down. Now I'm sure I'll be attacked, but sorry I'm just trying to help out.
@IKilledElviss Not this time. Because the people protesting are very obviously largely white, very liberal, middle class, hipster students, living in a hipster community (such as Boston) protesting on something that frankly was born from a grievous misunderstanding of a comment that mirrors sentiments your parents taught you at adolescence. "How you are judged is a reflection of how you present yourself"
@kittenagogo28 I'm just calling them as I see them. Do you deny that a bunch of college aged women coming out and acting like fools to champion some nonexistent cause while pretending that they represent all women is more than likely a pack of liberals? I hear there were kids in the park. Self respecting normal people don't make an asses of themselves like this around families just trying to have a nice day. These are moonbats. And my comment was kind, so best not to call me an idiot.
No act of violence, rape, exploitation, destruction, is intrinsically unjust, since life itself is violent, rapacious, exploitative, and destructive, and cannot be conceived otherwise."
-Friedrich Nietzsche
There are bad people out there. You have the right to live dangerously (dress slutty), just as I have the right to strap bacon to my ass and run through the woods, but I may get my ass torn off by a bear who does not believe I have the right to exclude myself from his menu.
How is saying "women could avoid being raped by not dressing like sluts" blaming the women? Because clothing is a form of expression, what is wrong warning women that the expression might be misinterpreted or stimulate a horrible action? Isn't he just saying 'rapists are animals, so don't bait them'? How is it any different from saying "don't leave your car unlocked or running" or "don't walk around with a huge wad of cash"? And why does feminism have to so often be a race to the bottom?
@TG1212able Because 'street smarts' is were men shine. Women (particularly feminists) want the ideal. They're princesses after all, and when you try to reason precaution they assume you are justifying the criminal act. Feminists have also made a very lucrative career out of being victims. I got robbed in the Bronx because I was a dumb white kid with cash (don't ask). A feminist gets that, but if apply equal logic to her own situation ... blank stare. Feminists lack common sense - completely.
@DEMOCRATSareRACISTS U may offer that wouldn't happen with the death penalty in play But R U willing to take the chance U might PO some bat shit crazy woman enough that she would see you killed. No doubt U hang around women as murderous as U R willing to be.
@DEMOCRATSareRACISTS The more U comment U reveal U may be too ignorant to comment on the topic The death penalty? A matter of record that their are woman who have falsely accuse, to recant after their victim spends time in prison Now any sure fires ways to bring back the dead?
@impeachtheretard No such thing as sexual harassment? You failed at the first sentence. More likely than not men who cheat find their "slut" at their church or some other "family" event. Grow up, and see the world as it is. Not saying U have to like what U see, but it may keep U from making dumb statements like no such thing as sexual harassment.
Comments to the web really reveal how many god damn would be tyrants exist don't they? What is "slutty"attire , is relative. Relative to the opinion of those who choose to judge and control the actions of others. Action that pose no threat to others. The prudish Aholes would jeopardize a source of eye candy for men, who aren't about to rape. Keep up the crusade ladies. But unfortunately many of who can't see the message you have, will never see it.
Take the power from slut, I'll find more derogatory words for a promiscuous woman. Wahhh wahhhh, give me attention, I want sympathy because my need to express my inner desires is causing people to treat me differently. What a fucking joke people are today, Americans particularly, get a fucking life.
LOL, dumb cunts. Wanna dress like a whore? Don't complain when someone treats you like a whore. No one says women can't dress like sluts, if you wanna pride yourself on sexual appeal, haaa, have fun, attract men who are focused on your sexual appeal. Why is this even an issue, no one fucking cares how women dress, walk around in your underwear if you want, and if someone treats you different because you're wearing underwear, cry me a fucking river.
You go girls. March for your right to dress like a whore. You'll get a lot more attention from the men, but they'll end up marrying your sister who has a little bit of self respect.
@loetzfan yea they may marry that sister, but end up cheating on the sister, when the men figure out self respect goes way beyond clothing attire & discover sister really has no self respect when all things are considered
@5lkk So in your mind people who dress modestly and have self respect really have no self respect because they don't dress like whores (???) and all men cheat on their wives. Its good to know where nuts like you are coming from..even if you are full of shit.
@impeachtheretard No one has the right to not be offended by others' freedom of expression, just as no one has the right to kill cartoonists who offend them. If everyone went about nude or "dressed provocatively" for a day or so, the entire issue would evaporate. This barrier would disappear once it is crossed. Men must rid themselves of priggish notions of the past.
@impeachtheretard I do my best to "mold the world closure to the heart's desire," that is, change the culture. You are trying to maintain the status quo. You seem to think some strong man will steal your wife if she shows some skin, much like you and the other hidebound Islamo-conformists. Such insecurity is sad and outdated.
@grubelsucht Well, being that women are more easily manipulated via emotion, I'd prefer my woman didn't provoke situations as such by showing more skin than necessary. What does that do for you? Does it make you feel good about yourself that people value something about you over which you have absolutely zero control? Wow, you don't sound shallow at all.
@hotfudgemoney Men too may be emotionally manipulated, but I admire those who resist unnecessary restrictions on personal freedom such as those appearing in the video. Willing servants of others I do not admire. "Your" woman is not your woman. She has a right to behave and dress however she chooses. Be careful! Some strong and handsome man might charm her pants off. To repeat, all these restrictions about nudity spring from the tribal savages of Abrahamic religion of time long past.
@grubelsucht Men MAY be emotionally manipulated, but being that Men and Women's brains are physically different in that the brain of a woman is not separated in the middle, one could easily argue this allows their emotions to control their actions more than that of a man. I also admire those resisting unnecessary restrictions, however, there IS no restriction on what a woman can wear in the United States, so what the fuck is this march about?
@grubelsucht Why don't you go ahead a prove to me that there's a cause behind this. I don't see one. Seems like a lot of attention needing bitches trying to belittle a word that may actually cause them some emotional harm. There's a difference between attire and promiscuity. Again, NO ONE CARES if a woman wants to wear little to no clothing, however, it is MY RIGHT and YOURS to treat someone differently for WHATEVER reason I so please.
@grubelsucht This march should be more focused on the incompetence of the court system in the case of rape or on the awareness women should possess to better help them avoid situations in which they may be raped. Clothing has NOTHING to do with it, and to claim that it does is merely a cry for attention, wahhh wahhh... sounds liberal to me. Don't wanna be called a whore? Don't dress like one. Wanna dress like a whore? Go for it, don't infringe on my right to treat you differently.
@Brajabu74 Witty, but shouldn't those honors belong to you? Here you've managed to comment on my comments without opining on the matter at hand. You have expressed nothing but your own ire. People without their own opinions merely do and say what is expected of them and find themselves led by others who have opinions. Try to think for yourself without conforming to others' prurient notions. Most of those here could easily find themselves arguing for Sharia law were they Muslim.
@grubelsucht Actually, I have no idea how that got posted to your comment. Sorry. It should have gone to a self appointed moral compass for people on the internet. I am quoting him from memory, but I cannot find the comment.
@Brajabu74 Yes, a lot of people associate clothing with morality. Everyone is naked under their clothes, but some posters here associate clothing with displays of morality or immorality, like the Taliban, both Islamic and American redneck Talibans.
@grubelsucht YOU AGAIN! Why is it always 'redneck'. Have you noticed 'redneck' gets used as a descriptive for every single hypothetical group of 'bad Americans'. Like the only place there are bad people in the US is in the rural areas, and they're all white. Isn't that a form of cultural racism in itself, and isn't 'cultural racism' the worst kind. It's accepted. It's okay for you to trash 'those people' because everyone knows they're all bad. Just a thought, and no, I don't have any studies.
@Brajabu74 Good thought! The R word offends you. The S word offends the women in the video, who want to refashion "slut" into a more acceptable term. Yours and their complaints mirror each other. Superficialities such as clothing, words, sex, and geography serve as identity markers for the whole person for shallow people. You agree with these women that individuals bear more substance than clothes and words can contain. Sluts? Rednecks? Fun talking to you.
WoW!! I am a man and I can't believe my eyes...Women walking in a parade thats for supporting what Sluts wear?!?! These women have no class or self respect. WTF is wrong with them?!?!
@Danny022479 The report clearly pointed out what the marches about. Sorry your comment moves you from ignorant, to stupid. Or a person who lacks class themselves at best.
Sluts rock because sluts put out without charging you an arm and a leg.....lmao Their mothers must be soooo proud. This is an example of some very stupid women, trying to RECLAIM the word slut. If I had a daughter that wanted to reclaim that word i would give her the fatest lip I possibly could...dumb sluts.
Wow. They must be who the really drunk guys in the clubs at closing time go home with. That's about the only way they could be classified as "sluts." My guess is that there wouldn't be too many sober takers.
@impeachtheretard I see sex makes you ill at ease. Culture determines what behavior is inappropriate, and culture can change. These women wish to change the culture in which men rape and harass women because of their clothes. Rape, you know, is not sexual, but is motivated by an angry urge to control women. Do burqas stop rape and harassment? Of course not! What is considered "overtly sexual" in one place is not so in another. Bare female breasts are common in much of the world.
@grubelsucht Are you implying that levels of rape in fundamentalist Muslim countries are somehow comparable to those of LA or other major cities? If so you don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
The prosecution of rape in most fundamentalist muslim countries is so ass-backwards(particularly on the occasions where the victim is punished for adultery), that I don't think a comparison can be made.
@loetzfan You did not make yourself clear. Define rape. Google "Rape in Islamic countries." Rape statistics are questionable, but the consensus is that rape is common in the Maghreb and in those countries with the greatest sexual repression. But that is not at issue. You, just as those Muslim fanatics, want to conceal women due to your own sexual insecurities. I sympathize with any woman who falls into your clutches, you angry person. You want your own freedom, but not for others.
@grubelsucht "Define Rape" LOL Now your sounding like the cop who started this whole thing. You throw the word "rape" around all day, but as soon as a man calls you on it they must somehow quantify it. Talk about gender discrimination. I would look for the supposed "anger" in my post or my desire to repress women, but I know its just the sort of insult people use when they don't have the facts on their side. I think you are the one with the pre-conceived sexual notions.
Non attractive females and gay me have an agenda against straight masculine men
Liam2621 2 days ago
Uggh those cow women would have to rape me. I don't think they need to worry about men wanting to touch them.
TracerGhost 1 month ago
These are my mom's wise words: Dress like a "slut" (even if you are not one) and you WILL BE TREATED LIKE ONE.....
Cowboyssuckcock100 1 month ago
So walking topless has no effect on rape?
I mean i dont get this at all -.o
Stupid people
blackpanther10109 1 month ago
I'm an author of horror fiction. I have a talent for putting myself in the mind of a villian, although I'm not a villian myself, and to be honest, seeing these women speakers make themselves look powerful while putting down men and being surrounded by sluts dancing and smiling and carrying "we love sluts" signs, I think a lot of rapists would only laugh at that, or fuel their rage. It almost seems like spoof of an anti-rape march. The men this protest will reach are already non-rapists, like me.
carlinsaves 3 months ago
Instead of encouraging women that dressing like a whore is okay, why don't we just educate others of the horrors of rape? Why don't we encourage NOT TO RAPE?
This won't help anything. It's as though they think sexual assault will stop. I'd rather see a place with less rape than more women parading around with barely any clothes on.
While you participate in your Slutwalk, I'm going to volunteer at a battered women's shelter or donate to promote female literacy in places it isn't allowed. Peace.
kipkayify 4 months ago
In response to a robbery on the street, a police officer was quoted as saying "it's not smart to have hundred dollar bills hanging out of your wallet in public." That victim blaming s.o.b.!!!! I'm proposing a wealth walk in my city, where we all walk around with money hanging out of our pockets to show everyone that it's always the robber's fault. Who's with me?!!!!
UltraProle21 5 months ago
Oh so you show some cleavage and some thighs and that's your idea of feminism? NO THANKS, CUM DUMPSTERS.
ChairmanNuke 5 months ago
for once a cop is right, women are the most important sacred thing god gave man, but these women are not sacred and shall be banished from paradice.
teebrron 5 months ago
"Slutwalk" takes it's name from the police officer at York University. He said that if women stopped dressing like sluts that they would stop being raped.
amishfriendshipbread 5 months ago
and... even momorman women dressed in prarie attire who have been victims of rape. however i agree that a lot of their message got lost as i believe a lot of the girls believed in the idea of the march but succombed to a chance to put their sexiness on parade. in south africa they did this but they put slutty clothes over their regular street clothes... i would have taken them more seriously
jpocahontasc 6 months ago
THE COP WAS WRONG WRONG WRONG... its been proved time and time again that clothing is not a deciding factor in the majority of rapes that occur. anyone who makes that claim is not educated in the matter and should sit the fuck down because you are channeling a myth that is as old and lame as rape itself. a sweater vest will not protect you from a rapist. for every hot n tot women who has ever been raped there are just as many normally dressed women (90 year olds in housecoats, children, and...
jpocahontasc 6 months ago
@jpocahontasc Surely clothes don't ALWAYS speak on behalf of victims of rape. Duh. It'll happen anyways. Duh. But the issue here is that its HIGHLY unrealistic to think that what you wear has no influence on the way people react on the outset. Were you ever a goth (or a similar outcast) in high school? If you were, then you'd understand the way you dress directly influences how others treat/perceive you. That's fucking reality. Or have you been clouded by all the granola inspired activism?
ShivaTheAuspicious 4 months ago
@jpocahontasc By the way, I bet on my life that no one will ever want to rape Hilary Clinton. Wanna take a fucking guess why?? I think you know the goddamn answer. No more of this male demonizing shit, the lion's share of us only react to a stimulus. If you're too dumb to understand that, let's put it this way: If you sell it, we'll probably buy it.
ShivaTheAuspicious 4 months ago
slutwalk participants = a not highly educated hipster bunch who don't have long term life goals and get offended too easily.
chamunda9979 6 months ago
SlutWalk message = "Stop rape by looking at our nearly-naked bodies! Woohoo!"
JesusManson323 6 months ago
I think the cop was right. Take two identical twins, one wearing a bikini and one wearing a trench coat... Wonder which one is a bigger target? Im not saying its right, but I am saying that comment holds some water...
istayaway1 6 months ago
@istayaway1 You can safely say he was 100% right when he said what he said.
mimer101 6 months ago
Most of those fugly women WISH they could be seen as sluts.
MensRightsVideos 6 months ago
disgusting:( why on earth would you call it that....
MsTinkerbelle87 6 months ago 5
@MsTinkerbelle87 "SlutWalk" is like Black people hosting "NiggerWalk". It should be disgusting no matter who says it.
MensRightsVideos 6 months ago 7
fat sluts
justryingz 7 months ago
A way a person is dress is NO EXCUSE TO RAPE but I want to bring something just as bad the DORKS out there when people judge you because want to date a DORK I been label that in my teen years and actually thought about killing myself back then maybe we need a DORK WALK if we all start really caring about people these things should not happen.
debdaveandpets 7 months ago
I was also warned by some 'fascist' cop not to walk through inner city areas with $100 bills pinned to my jacket. How dare he? If I want to wear money on my jacket who is he to warn me that it increases my vunerability? I'm tired of repression in the form of being warned about my safety by professionals who deal with related incidents on a regular basis. Don't they realise that people get mugged even when they hide money in their shoe? I should therefore be able to pin mine to my jacket.
sludgefingers 7 months ago
ironic how none of them looked like sluts...
Senorize 7 months ago
Any man who walks in a parade like that is either A queer or cultural subversive Jew trying to undermine whatever is left of Christian civlisation, or both.
theone1087 7 months ago
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If this is a slut walk, can there be a juxtaposing pimp walk? Seriously, where the pimps basically slap these sluts and turn them out? Hey "slut" if you're going to objectify yourself, you mine as well go the full Monty! I say bring in an experienced crew of Russian, Black, and Colombian pimps to truly make it an equal opportunity gathering. P.S. Kidnapping, raping, drug muling and other licentious acts are non-prosecutable due to false advertising. Ahh, I bet you bitches wouldn't show then!
theone1087 7 months ago
Truckasaurus Walk.
singedcarry 8 months ago
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Slutwalk, a growing protest movement whose message is that women need never be ladies, but men must always be gentlemen.
IkkyoUra 8 months ago
Some woman on the video said "it's an attempt to reclaim the word slut cause once you reclaim it you take the power from it". WTF is she talking about?
Isn't this about stopping rape? who cares if you're dressed like a slut, women dressed in decent attire unfortunately can also be raped.
Some of those bitches should be fined for indecent exposure…
elementium 8 months ago
@elementium Youre obviously finding it difficult to mentally grasp what this protest is about. You're right that women dressed in decent attire can be raped. ANY woman can be raped and it has nothing to do with what she was wearing.
realouiseburton 8 months ago
@realouiseburton: Any PERSON can be raped.
Yes, the vast majority of victims are female, but let's not act as if male rape doesn't occur or is less objectionable.
Nero50Z 7 months ago
@Nero50Z When exactly did i imply that?
realouiseburton 7 months ago
Slutwalk, a growing protest movement whose message is that women need never be ladies, but men must always be gentlemen.
ninearthify 8 months ago
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why are they all FAT!!!
Ugallu 8 months ago
why are they all FAT!!!
Ugallu 8 months ago
@Ugallu Oh and i bet you're gods finest fucking creation aren't you honey pie?
realouiseburton 8 months ago
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realouiseburton 8 months ago
Want to know why rape is the lowest in muslim countries? Watch:
THE HIJAB AND THE NIQAB 1/4
Nebulous1982 8 months ago
@Nebulous1982 Actually rape is pretty high in Muslim countries, but it goes unreported because women who have been raped can be stoned to death for 'promiscuity' so don't delude yourselves that women don't get raped when they're covered up.
reivenne 8 months ago
VICTIM BLAMING, THREATS, AND RISK
Threats cause Risks in the same way that Diseases cause Symptoms.
The goal is to irradiate threats and diseases. In the meantime, risks are managed, and symptoms are treated. Sexual assaults are symptoms of the social disease of Gender Violence.
A threat is an unwanted event that can happen. Threat management reduces the presence of these threats. Risk mgmt deals with taking preventive measures to reduce the consequences of these events.
NotMe1357 9 months ago
PART 2: In terms of sexual assault, risk mgmt involves women taking specific actions to reduce their own risk of being assaulted. But these actions do nothing to reduce the overall threat caused by Gender Violence.
Threat mgmt involves changing the culture of how women are perceived and treated in order to irradiate Gender Violence in society.
It is essential to understand the difference between threats and risks in order to make sense of the discussions of “victim blaming”.
NotMe1357 9 months ago
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PART 3: The blame for sexual assaults rests completely on the attacker and the culture that gives rise to this type of behavior. The presence of men who sexually assault women in society represent the threat of Gender Violence. The behavior of a woman prior to an assault relates only to risk management. Therefore, the question of “victim blaming” is really only pertains to risk management.
NotMe1357 9 months ago
PART 4 : The goal of risk management is to reduce risk. Therefore, it is possible to be completely blameless for an assault and still be faulted for poor risk management. It is possible to practice excellent risk management and still be assaulted. Risk management only minimizes risk. It does not make the threat go away. Threat and risk management are not mutually exclusive. It is possible for both of these methodologies to coexist and work together towards a common end.
NotMe1357 9 months ago
PART 4 : The goal of risk management is to reduce risk. Therefore, it is possible to be completely blameless for an assault and still be faulted for poor risk management. It is possible to practice excellent risk management and still be assaulted. Risk management only minimizes risk. It does not make the threat go away. Threat and risk management are not mutually exclusive. It is possible for both of these methodologies to coexist and work together towards a common end.
NotMe1357 9 months ago
PART 5: In summary, Slutwalk, Take Back the Night, and other protest marches are intended to eliminate the threat of sexual assault by changing society. Self-defense classes, preventive measures, and police safety talks are intended to reduce the risk of sexual assault. Understanding the concept behind these different methods is essential for people to be able to focus on the common ground as opposed to arguing over the differences.
NotMe1357 9 months ago
It doesn't matter what you wear, a rapist will rape anyone, old , young , man or woman. However, if you do wear revealing clothes, you are more likely to get approached by a man and asked for a date (and there might be date rape) so who knows , maybe that Cop had a point.
sgreen4 9 months ago
@sgreen4 ...That doesn't make it the womans fault for dressing in an attractive manner. T
reivenne 8 months ago
@reivenne No one ever said it was a woman's fault solely for being raped. But you don't think for one second that dressing a certain way has an influence on how people react to you? Try it one day. Walk around town naked and see if you aren't ogled and maybe feel particularly heightened fear of being sexually assaulted at some point during your adventure. Your logic is flawed. Just because its not a victims fault doesn't excuse personally responsibility for looking like an especially easy target
ShivaTheAuspicious 4 months ago
@ShivaTheAuspicious You're missing the entire point. The point is, men shouldn't THINK that a woman is an easier target (aka "kind of wants it anyway") just because of how she's dressed. No clothing makes anyone an "easier target", that's ridiculous. If rapists were looking for 'easy targets' they'd rape the elderly, disabled, sick or very young, because THESE things influence a persons ability to fight back. NOT clothes.
reivenne 4 months ago
@reivenne That's the problem with this whole "march". You cannot control another person's thoughts. Do not be so arrogant to think that you can. The way a man feels about a woman is completely subjective and unpredictable. Being a guy myself, I know this very well. It ranges from, "wow, she seems classy and smart...I wanna spend an hour with her to see if its true", all the way to the most primal thoughts you can think of. Accept that this is a part of life. Nobody is "pure"
ShivaTheAuspicious 4 months ago
Furthermore, there is no point to be made. Humans will be humans. MOST of us are FOLLOWERS. You've decided to be a follower to a cause that debates common sense and prehistoric programming. The basic and irrefutable laws of anthropology. Ever watched Jurassic Park? Dr. Ian Malcom (Jeff Goldblum) explains that "life cannot be contained". When you've LIVED for a few years you'll understand why. Throw away your ideologies before it suffocates you.
ShivaTheAuspicious 4 months ago
@ShivaTheAuspicious What you're basically saying is 1) Jurassic Park (a FICTIONAL HOLLYWOOD FILM about DINOSAURS) relates to, and explains what is acceptable human behaviour in the line "life cannot be contained" and stating that we shouldn't bother educating people about the real causes of rape because "that's human nature". You sir, are a fucking idiot.
reivenne 4 months ago
@reivenne I wasn't expecting you to be at all educated enough to develop any sort of coherent deductions on the subject. Again, I will point out that MANY parents tell their daughters deliberately in their teens years not to dress in a distracting manner, if one is not ready to deal with the attention it typically receives. So, are you gonna march against moms and dads too? Your argument (and the idea of a SlutWalk) lacks consistency.
ShivaTheAuspicious 3 months ago
@ShivaTheAuspicious You used a Hollywood quotec to try and sound "deep" (hah) not because it in any way related to the topic, so there weren't any intelligent deductions to be made.
Also, many parents do tell their teenage daughters to dress appropriately, which is fine. But this march is about grown adult women, who have the choice to dress however the hell we want. The fact is, I don't think very many females have ever gone to the beach, seen a guy in a swimsuit and thought...
reivenne 3 months ago
@ShivaTheAuspicious ...cont. "Hmm he's scantily clad, guess that means he wants to fuck me." All that Slutwalk hopes to achieve is to educate people that a) It's not the victims fault and b) Rape is always wrong. Period. If you don't get it, there's something wrong with you. If you don't like the mode of delivery, fine. Though, in your case I'd suggest that's because you're a victim blamer already and don't seem intelligent or empathetic enough to understand the whole point.
reivenne 3 months ago
@ShivaTheAuspicious Also, where do I lack consistency? And yes, I would march against mums and dads that instill in their daughters (and sons) a sense of body shame and promote the idea of victim blaming. Sure, teach your children decency and moderation, but don't use self loathing and shame as a tactic, that just leads to an unhealthy sex life in a lot of girls anyway.
reivenne 3 months ago
@reivenne "Sure, teach your children decency and moderation.."
I rest my case. You have just contradicted your entire argument in one fell swoop.
BTW teaching moderation has nothing to do with shaming.
Understand this, I totally support a woman who gets raped and wasn't out looking for attention with her clothes etc. However, sluts...you're on your own. You wanted attention and you got it--doesn't matter that it wasn't the type you were looking for. You knew the occupational hazard.
ShivaTheAuspicious 3 months ago
@ShivaTheAuspicious Wow, I hope you get mugged and stabbed. I also hope they whisper in your ear that it's your fault for wearing expensive shoes. You're a victim blaming, ignorant fuckwit and I'm done talking to you.
reivenne 3 months ago
@reivenne Isn't that the point? Sure I have EVERY right to wear expensive Gucci shoes walking through Crenshaw, but is it smart to? Hell no. If I get mugged/stabbed well that's kinda my fault too huh..I do have to take some responsibility/accountability for being oblivious. Are you gonna tell someone who left an iPod in their OPEN locker that it wasn't their fault someone stole it? No. You're tell them they're a dumbass for leaving their f'n locker open.
You should reevaluate who is ignorant.
ShivaTheAuspicious 3 months ago
@reivenne And btw....you do realize that making insults is detrimental to your credibility, right? I find it a shame that someone your age still thinks with such little common sense.
ShivaTheAuspicious 3 months ago
Women heard the word "slut" and got pissed about it, but they didnt even bother to catch the true meaning off what the officer tried to tell. And yes, I think the cop was right.
vkLeXeR 9 months ago
Bullshit...
It's for you own safety. The rapist doesn't care about the demonstration.
What a bunch of sluts.
CamperDamper 9 months ago
what a bunch of sluts
sh1ftyedits 9 months ago
@sh1ftyedits awww yeah
Aspenfash899 8 months ago
And I Dont get it, just dress up like sluts on these walks, and people will think you're sluts. Women demand equality but at the same time do everything the opposite "I'm a women I can do the same thing as men,well okay..maybe not as a fireman, in the military and so on, BUT if you dare to disagree you're a sovinist sexist pig", and the list goes on, women try to realise you're degregading yourself and promoting more hate towards women as men view you as idiots. That slutwalk shows it.
TheHabati 9 months ago
I guess I can drink alcohol and then drive a car because its not dangerous, thats what the slutwalk promotes. I guess I can safely leave my door open when I leave for holiday, because no one robs it. Thats what the slutwalks say.
But the reality is, you cant drink alcohol and drive, and leave your door open, neither can you dress up like a slut on purpose and have massive cleavage with nipples and leggings with t-shirt up so they can see your ass. IT WILL increase your chance of being raped
TheHabati 9 months ago
Maybe it is just me, but I don't these walks will do anything.
It's not like rapes and sexual assaults will disappear.
BabyGirlGoddess 9 months ago
Ergh... All ugly fat mongers who would love to get dragged into an alley or bush at will!!!
sajshah 9 months ago
Oh, comon' half these idiots are just GAY women using this as a promotional tool to spread more diluted "feminist" philosophy. Get real!
Orion1232 9 months ago
bunch of ugly hipster whores.
You couldn't get raped even if you tried whores
ifap007 9 months ago
a women should be able to wear what she wants (self-control people), however claiming the title "slut", I don't see how that helps. These women have too much time on their hand. Ps. where are the hot chicks (this is an rather handsome movement), most of the women in the video looked like...well lets just say a slut should be attractive.
getdoeful 9 months ago
The fat dude... doesn't belong there....Period.
zyeahh 9 months ago
Feminist politics are so 1975. Being the office whore and out-cunting all the rest of the cunts to get that raise is where women are at these days. They're really all whores, it's just that some of them take cash up front, and others run tabs, accepting cars, kitchen renovations and bling as legal tender. The one thing they all have in common is always looking out for a higher bid. Unless they're ugly, then they just fist each other.
dogterd 9 months ago
Its true dressing modestly does not protect a woman from rape. But dressing slut-like may make matter worse. However,how she wants to dress is her choice.
anku6 9 months ago
wow not even 1 good looking woman in this video o.O
getson84 9 months ago
OMFG!!! I don't see any 'real' sluts! Is it because sluts don't care if I perv at them? Maybe they don't care if you treat them like a whore, thats what makes'em a SLUT!!!
skirtchaser1 9 months ago
Susan B Anthony would be so proud of these women believing dressing and behaving like whores is freedom. lol I guess Larry Flynt and Max Hardcore were ahead of their time. They were not objectifying women, they were providing a venue for the free expression of their sexuality.
ChristianMission 9 months ago
If a man sees a woman dressing "provocatively" and rapes her because she "provoked him" than he's clearly no more in control of his actions than a dog that attacks someone for walking into its territory.
You know what happens to dogs that attack people? They're put down before they can attack someone else.
enoughtalkhaveatyou 9 months ago
None of those women in the video will ever get raped, so I don't know what their deal is.
finalcloud13 9 months ago
@finalcloud13 what you mean to say is that YOU would never rape any of these women (because they are not attractive to YOU);though, if you did find them attractive YOU would rape them???!!! Just a heads-up to you to take a little time to formulate your comments a bit more intelligently. If you don't like them, then you don't...nothing wrong with that. However, keep in mind that while you may not be guilty of raping them, Humankind has to take responsibilty for itself. Punkt (period)!
schwarzkopf79 9 months ago
@schwarzkopf79 Haha okay okay my bad.
finalcloud13 9 months ago
You know that we've failed as a species when half the comments here can't seem to understand, or even justify their reasons to rape. How dare you people assume that men are so stupid that they'd be incapable of consent and disrespect their own sexuality. How dare you people justify rape.
Seriously- get some help.
midgysamurai15 9 months ago
These lesbians might like sluts, but any decent man with class will disregard this subhuman filth. Sluts, whores and feminists are revolting.
AtheistTower 9 months ago
We all know the true reason of SlutWalk! All those ugly girls who never got laid wanted heard they'll get raped dressing like that and HAD to do it. Haha.
dafuki 9 months ago
Go women!
paolosilv 9 months ago
@impeachtheretard I'm going to keep this brief, and say that rape is about power not sexuality, and most rape victims were wearing jeans and a t-shirt. I'm not sure how this got voted up, but also if you want to monitor dress ("half naked dumb horny sluts"), then I would personally feel better if you weren't in the United States where we have freedom of speech and expression. Oh yes, and flashing is technically called indecent exposure under the law.
catscan189 10 months ago
What exactly are they protesting though?
FrontalTraction 10 months ago
@FrontalTraction They are protesting sex crimes, victim blaming, and "slut shaming" (degrading people based on provocative appearances, adult professions, gender identity, sexual orientation, etc.), and promoting freedom of expression, and sexuality.
catscan189 10 months ago
@catscan189 Putting rape and slut shaming under the same category and protest them together is senseless. I consider bothy "slutty" and "macho" behaviors gross, silly, inelegant, licit. This is part of my freedom of expression. Rapists' testosterone should be wiped out forever
We all have so much energy and time. Were I a woman, I'd give slut shamers very little of both. I would focus on fighting criminals. And I'd tell younger girls violent guys are not cool. Probably futile though.
alexdrudigmail 9 months ago
@curtisthe6th So, a march of women dressing like sluts wouldn't cure a 'rapist sicko'. In your attempt to make a point, I think you actually made a point. How is a large group of women providing eye candy going to address violence against women? Then what is this really about?
Increasing prison sentences? More slave labor for privatized prisons who don't put any focus on rehabilitation. That's evil genius!
Brajabu74 10 months ago
It is incredible how so many educated people can say what they are saying..... The criminals that do these disgusting acts must be rubbing their hands with happiness.
Ignorance in society is what these monsters count on !!!! All of you men who think that these women are asking "for it" need to be educated properly !!!! Geeez when will the Human Race evolve ???????
Celizamite 10 months ago
@Celizamite So, just men think that? Question.. if I walked through a black neighborhood, with a KKK outfit (hood and all) I should be fine right? It's my right to dress how I please and walk on a public street. Anyone who would cause me harm, would do so in violation of my rights and the law. My male brain says no. It's called common sense and if you want to put your ass (literally) out there to test the evolution of the human race, go right ahead. Meanwhile, I'll keep my hood out of the hood.
Brajabu74 10 months ago
@Brajabu74 You pose a very intelligent argument , but the facts are that "rapists" do not choose their victim on how they are dressed, it is a crime of opportunity. If someone is going to rape they do not really care what the victim is wearing. This crime is nothing to do with sexuality. The crime is based on a need for power and control of the victim. A bit like a serial killer.
Celizamite 10 months ago
@Celizamite I agree that part of the equation is opportunity. I am not completely denying power as part of the equation either, but as a male I can with complete confidence assure you that visual appeal is a large part. We are visual creatures, we have tried to explain this to you over and over and... You are applying your logic to men. Basically denying that we have different thought processes. It's fitting a square peg into a round hole with a hammer. You got it in, but it still doesn't fit.
Brajabu74 9 months ago
@Brajabu74 Specious. A "large part"? "Visual creatures"? "Logic" applied to men, not women? This is the fuzzy thinking that leads to religious delusions and conformity.
grubelsucht 9 months ago
@grubelsucht Uh, you missed my point on every one. 'large part' - human actions are multi-faceted I am not going to explain that to you. 'Visual Creatures' - men are visually stimulated much more than women. Ahhh PORN! Again, why are you raising this as specious? Feminists hold firm to the 'Power' theory. It's like me assuming my girlfriend has the same sexual motivations I do. Applying my logic to the opposite sex regarding sex is disastrous.. I learned this as a teenager. What's 'Fuzzy'?
Brajabu74 9 months ago
@Brajabu74 Putting aside the main issue here and the limited space available, I'm saying that such logic would not serve well in a writing class as you offer no supporting reasons or reference for your claims. For example (and you may already know this): "Split twin studies show strong behavioral parallels so that one might determine behavior to be genetically motivated." Or: "The Oslo Chief of Police states that Muslims have committed all the rapes there--despite no available statistics."
grubelsucht 9 months ago
@grubelsucht Writing class? I need to offer proof that multiple factors are present in human actions? You need proof? Primary stimulation for men is visual (besides touch). Are you offering a counter opinion? Are you challenging my statement or are you one of those people who has to have the last word. No matter how incoherent. The two studies you mentioned. Why? 'Might determine' Muslim rapes in Norway? It seems to be very important for you to one-up, but try disputing a point with a point.
Brajabu74 9 months ago
@Celizamite the human race will evolve when redundant elements or gone. people who use to many exclamation\question marks and periods would be a good start.
BakaWarsh 7 months ago
It's true that you can avoid being raped by not dressing like sluts. You can avoid theft by keeping valuables hidden. It's common sense, and these people lack it.
FrontalTraction 10 months ago
@FrontalTraction You are mistaken. Women are raped whatever they wear. Culture creates the rapists just as culture creates thieves. The women are trying to change the culture. If we all went about naked nudity would not so readily sexually arouse others.
grubelsucht 10 months ago
How underwhelming. Most of them are dressed like they're doing the gardening or something. And some of the obese ones would have more chance in being raped in a burka.
jiros00 10 months ago
I agree that all women should dress like sluts...I wanna see more ass and tits...thank you slutwalk movement.
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riccardonigro1 10 months ago
Wow. I have never seen such an overwhelmingly ignorant and offensive comment majority as I am seeing on this video. This is why there are Slutwalks.
catscan189 10 months ago 5
@catscan189
Yes because "male privilege" makes men unwilling or unable to see the problem with "rape". Instead they call women names, blame feminist for men's ability to control themselves like HUMAN BEINGS instead of beasts *worse than animals* I wonder how different it would be if men could easily be attacked for NO reason and have some uninvited dick shoved into their orifices. I wonder if "rapist" would get off so easy if the shoe was on the other foot.
tatumforbes 10 months ago
@tatumforbes Yeah, because traditionally women do more time for other crimes... BULLSHIT! Every single statistic relating to crime vs. sentencing would prove you wrong. I know being a victim all the time is intoxicating for you, but you cannot apply it everywhere. Especially if you're going to claim men would punish women more. That is an outright lie. We are programmed to let you slide... we do it every month. btw. men are victims of violent crimes much much more than women.
Brajabu74 10 months ago
@catscan189 How are slutwalks going to stop people from calling sluts and slutwalks idiotic and pointless and as a result mocking them relentlessly? You sluts aren't doing your gender any favors here.
Truth0rDeath 9 months ago
I did not see any Sluts in this video that would even make my jimmy stand up...uuggg Bunch ugly hoes
Triton88keys 10 months ago
Remember girls, with all of your anger at men. Its not us calling you sluts, we love it when you advertise your cheep goods...its the other ladies who call you that.
loetzfan 10 months ago
Eek, I hate to make this point, but feel compelled to. Don't you have to be able to get some action to be considered a slut? Judging from some on this video....well I think most people know where I'm going. Leave the poor cop alone. It's no big deal. I know you libs are always looking for a cause when you should be looking for a bar of soap, but calm down. Now I'm sure I'll be attacked, but sorry I'm just trying to help out.
kittenagogo28 10 months ago 5
@kittenagogo28 'you libs...' Is there any issue that can come about without anyone politicizing it? Idiot.
IKilledElviss 8 months ago
@IKilledElviss Not this time. Because the people protesting are very obviously largely white, very liberal, middle class, hipster students, living in a hipster community (such as Boston) protesting on something that frankly was born from a grievous misunderstanding of a comment that mirrors sentiments your parents taught you at adolescence. "How you are judged is a reflection of how you present yourself"
ShivaTheAuspicious 4 months ago
@kittenagogo28 I'm just calling them as I see them. Do you deny that a bunch of college aged women coming out and acting like fools to champion some nonexistent cause while pretending that they represent all women is more than likely a pack of liberals? I hear there were kids in the park. Self respecting normal people don't make an asses of themselves like this around families just trying to have a nice day. These are moonbats. And my comment was kind, so best not to call me an idiot.
kittenagogo28 8 months ago
stupid sluts
zillsburyy 10 months ago
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No act of violence, rape, exploitation, destruction, is intrinsically unjust, since life itself is violent, rapacious, exploitative, and destructive, and cannot be conceived otherwise."
-Friedrich Nietzsche
There are bad people out there. You have the right to live dangerously (dress slutty), just as I have the right to strap bacon to my ass and run through the woods, but I may get my ass torn off by a bear who does not believe I have the right to exclude myself from his menu.
bobcatpretzel1 10 months ago
The funny thing about the word 'slut' is that almost every time I hear it it's coming from a woman describing another woman.
JaymoeSays 10 months ago 3
How is saying "women could avoid being raped by not dressing like sluts" blaming the women? Because clothing is a form of expression, what is wrong warning women that the expression might be misinterpreted or stimulate a horrible action? Isn't he just saying 'rapists are animals, so don't bait them'? How is it any different from saying "don't leave your car unlocked or running" or "don't walk around with a huge wad of cash"? And why does feminism have to so often be a race to the bottom?
TG1212able 10 months ago
@TG1212able Because 'street smarts' is were men shine. Women (particularly feminists) want the ideal. They're princesses after all, and when you try to reason precaution they assume you are justifying the criminal act. Feminists have also made a very lucrative career out of being victims. I got robbed in the Bronx because I was a dumb white kid with cash (don't ask). A feminist gets that, but if apply equal logic to her own situation ... blank stare. Feminists lack common sense - completely.
Brajabu74 10 months ago
lol all this just because of a comment from a police officer? sounds like an excuse for girls to dress like sluts and be attention whores.
flyhigh93 10 months ago
@DEMOCRATSareRACISTS U may offer that wouldn't happen with the death penalty in play But R U willing to take the chance U might PO some bat shit crazy woman enough that she would see you killed. No doubt U hang around women as murderous as U R willing to be.
5lkk 10 months ago
@DEMOCRATSareRACISTS The more U comment U reveal U may be too ignorant to comment on the topic The death penalty? A matter of record that their are woman who have falsely accuse, to recant after their victim spends time in prison Now any sure fires ways to bring back the dead?
5lkk 10 months ago
@DEMOCRATSareRACISTS U & two others (so far) are morons. These marches are not in support of rape of anyone.
5lkk 10 months ago
@impeachtheretard No such thing as sexual harassment? You failed at the first sentence. More likely than not men who cheat find their "slut" at their church or some other "family" event. Grow up, and see the world as it is. Not saying U have to like what U see, but it may keep U from making dumb statements like no such thing as sexual harassment.
5lkk 10 months ago
Comments to the web really reveal how many god damn would be tyrants exist don't they? What is "slutty"attire , is relative. Relative to the opinion of those who choose to judge and control the actions of others. Action that pose no threat to others. The prudish Aholes would jeopardize a source of eye candy for men, who aren't about to rape. Keep up the crusade ladies. But unfortunately many of who can't see the message you have, will never see it.
5lkk 10 months ago
Take the power from slut, I'll find more derogatory words for a promiscuous woman. Wahhh wahhhh, give me attention, I want sympathy because my need to express my inner desires is causing people to treat me differently. What a fucking joke people are today, Americans particularly, get a fucking life.
hotfudgemoney 10 months ago
LOL, dumb cunts. Wanna dress like a whore? Don't complain when someone treats you like a whore. No one says women can't dress like sluts, if you wanna pride yourself on sexual appeal, haaa, have fun, attract men who are focused on your sexual appeal. Why is this even an issue, no one fucking cares how women dress, walk around in your underwear if you want, and if someone treats you different because you're wearing underwear, cry me a fucking river.
hotfudgemoney 10 months ago 3
You go girls. March for your right to dress like a whore. You'll get a lot more attention from the men, but they'll end up marrying your sister who has a little bit of self respect.
loetzfan 10 months ago
@loetzfan yea they may marry that sister, but end up cheating on the sister, when the men figure out self respect goes way beyond clothing attire & discover sister really has no self respect when all things are considered
5lkk 10 months ago
@5lkk So in your mind people who dress modestly and have self respect really have no self respect because they don't dress like whores (???) and all men cheat on their wives. Its good to know where nuts like you are coming from..even if you are full of shit.
loetzfan 10 months ago 2
The protesters are being sarcastic.
marmite400 10 months ago
@impeachtheretard No one has the right to not be offended by others' freedom of expression, just as no one has the right to kill cartoonists who offend them. If everyone went about nude or "dressed provocatively" for a day or so, the entire issue would evaporate. This barrier would disappear once it is crossed. Men must rid themselves of priggish notions of the past.
grubelsucht 10 months ago
@impeachtheretard I do my best to "mold the world closure to the heart's desire," that is, change the culture. You are trying to maintain the status quo. You seem to think some strong man will steal your wife if she shows some skin, much like you and the other hidebound Islamo-conformists. Such insecurity is sad and outdated.
grubelsucht 10 months ago
@grubelsucht Well, being that women are more easily manipulated via emotion, I'd prefer my woman didn't provoke situations as such by showing more skin than necessary. What does that do for you? Does it make you feel good about yourself that people value something about you over which you have absolutely zero control? Wow, you don't sound shallow at all.
hotfudgemoney 10 months ago
@hotfudgemoney Men too may be emotionally manipulated, but I admire those who resist unnecessary restrictions on personal freedom such as those appearing in the video. Willing servants of others I do not admire. "Your" woman is not your woman. She has a right to behave and dress however she chooses. Be careful! Some strong and handsome man might charm her pants off. To repeat, all these restrictions about nudity spring from the tribal savages of Abrahamic religion of time long past.
grubelsucht 10 months ago
@grubelsucht Men MAY be emotionally manipulated, but being that Men and Women's brains are physically different in that the brain of a woman is not separated in the middle, one could easily argue this allows their emotions to control their actions more than that of a man. I also admire those resisting unnecessary restrictions, however, there IS no restriction on what a woman can wear in the United States, so what the fuck is this march about?
hotfudgemoney 10 months ago
@grubelsucht Why don't you go ahead a prove to me that there's a cause behind this. I don't see one. Seems like a lot of attention needing bitches trying to belittle a word that may actually cause them some emotional harm. There's a difference between attire and promiscuity. Again, NO ONE CARES if a woman wants to wear little to no clothing, however, it is MY RIGHT and YOURS to treat someone differently for WHATEVER reason I so please.
hotfudgemoney 10 months ago
@grubelsucht This march should be more focused on the incompetence of the court system in the case of rape or on the awareness women should possess to better help them avoid situations in which they may be raped. Clothing has NOTHING to do with it, and to claim that it does is merely a cry for attention, wahhh wahhh... sounds liberal to me. Don't wanna be called a whore? Don't dress like one. Wanna dress like a whore? Go for it, don't infringe on my right to treat you differently.
hotfudgemoney 10 months ago
@grubelsucht Who the hell elected you grand puba? You're a keyboard messiah at best.
Brajabu74 10 months ago
@Brajabu74 Witty, but shouldn't those honors belong to you? Here you've managed to comment on my comments without opining on the matter at hand. You have expressed nothing but your own ire. People without their own opinions merely do and say what is expected of them and find themselves led by others who have opinions. Try to think for yourself without conforming to others' prurient notions. Most of those here could easily find themselves arguing for Sharia law were they Muslim.
grubelsucht 10 months ago
@grubelsucht Actually, I have no idea how that got posted to your comment. Sorry. It should have gone to a self appointed moral compass for people on the internet. I am quoting him from memory, but I cannot find the comment.
Brajabu74 10 months ago
@Brajabu74 Yes, a lot of people associate clothing with morality. Everyone is naked under their clothes, but some posters here associate clothing with displays of morality or immorality, like the Taliban, both Islamic and American redneck Talibans.
grubelsucht 9 months ago
@grubelsucht YOU AGAIN! Why is it always 'redneck'. Have you noticed 'redneck' gets used as a descriptive for every single hypothetical group of 'bad Americans'. Like the only place there are bad people in the US is in the rural areas, and they're all white. Isn't that a form of cultural racism in itself, and isn't 'cultural racism' the worst kind. It's accepted. It's okay for you to trash 'those people' because everyone knows they're all bad. Just a thought, and no, I don't have any studies.
Brajabu74 9 months ago
@Brajabu74 Good thought! The R word offends you. The S word offends the women in the video, who want to refashion "slut" into a more acceptable term. Yours and their complaints mirror each other. Superficialities such as clothing, words, sex, and geography serve as identity markers for the whole person for shallow people. You agree with these women that individuals bear more substance than clothes and words can contain. Sluts? Rednecks? Fun talking to you.
grubelsucht 9 months ago
WoW!! I am a man and I can't believe my eyes...Women walking in a parade thats for supporting what Sluts wear?!?! These women have no class or self respect. WTF is wrong with them?!?!
Danny022479 10 months ago 2
@Danny022479 The report clearly pointed out what the marches about. Sorry your comment moves you from ignorant, to stupid. Or a person who lacks class themselves at best.
5lkk 10 months ago
@Danny022479
Look up satire in the dictionary you god damn putz.
leeharveyosmosis 10 months ago
@leeharveyosmosis Thats not satire. If anything they should have a parade on being a classy women again. And dont be rude!
Danny022479 10 months ago
@Danny022479
OK, this is all about "slut pride" and dressing like a slut. The context isn't wider than that. Nope, not at all.
leeharveyosmosis 10 months ago
Sluts rock because sluts put out without charging you an arm and a leg.....lmao Their mothers must be soooo proud. This is an example of some very stupid women, trying to RECLAIM the word slut. If I had a daughter that wanted to reclaim that word i would give her the fatest lip I possibly could...dumb sluts.
lumendelsol 10 months ago
@lumendelsol And I bet you think you have more class that a slut too. LOL
5lkk 10 months ago
They should turn this into a march into the offensive belly fat March to show everyone everywhere that belly fat needs love too!!
toneo2001 10 months ago
Americans sluts are so ugly...
TheReivorg 10 months ago
@TheReivorg I live in the USA, and I couldn't agree more...
gerfall 10 months ago
Wow. They must be who the really drunk guys in the clubs at closing time go home with. That's about the only way they could be classified as "sluts." My guess is that there wouldn't be too many sober takers.
shellymic 10 months ago
@impeachtheretard I see sex makes you ill at ease. Culture determines what behavior is inappropriate, and culture can change. These women wish to change the culture in which men rape and harass women because of their clothes. Rape, you know, is not sexual, but is motivated by an angry urge to control women. Do burqas stop rape and harassment? Of course not! What is considered "overtly sexual" in one place is not so in another. Bare female breasts are common in much of the world.
grubelsucht 10 months ago
@grubelsucht Are you implying that levels of rape in fundamentalist Muslim countries are somehow comparable to those of LA or other major cities? If so you don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
loetzfan 10 months ago
@loetzfan
The prosecution of rape in most fundamentalist muslim countries is so ass-backwards(particularly on the occasions where the victim is punished for adultery), that I don't think a comparison can be made.
(I have a problem with theocracies, not Islam)
leeharveyosmosis 10 months ago
@leeharveyosmosis Then tell that to grubelcucht who is trying to do just that.
loetzfan 10 months ago
@loetzfan You did not make yourself clear. Define rape. Google "Rape in Islamic countries." Rape statistics are questionable, but the consensus is that rape is common in the Maghreb and in those countries with the greatest sexual repression. But that is not at issue. You, just as those Muslim fanatics, want to conceal women due to your own sexual insecurities. I sympathize with any woman who falls into your clutches, you angry person. You want your own freedom, but not for others.
grubelsucht 10 months ago
@grubelsucht "Define Rape" LOL Now your sounding like the cop who started this whole thing. You throw the word "rape" around all day, but as soon as a man calls you on it they must somehow quantify it. Talk about gender discrimination. I would look for the supposed "anger" in my post or my desire to repress women, but I know its just the sort of insult people use when they don't have the facts on their side. I think you are the one with the pre-conceived sexual notions.
loetzfan 10 months ago
@loetzfan You are getting angry again.
Here are two axioms: No one may control how others dress in a free society. Women's clothes are not the proximate cause of rape.
grubelsucht 10 months ago