Last time I checked, this was Prokofiev we're listening to, not Brahms, Williams or anyone else. Appreciate the beautiful music people, stick to the topic.
@jaykay2003 Yet, Williams is an American icon, actually a world icon...Either good guys finish last or John Williams is a musical genius. cant condemn a composer for his work sounding like other people work, he drew on musical themes of the past to create a new style of music
@1AdrianR I disagree. He took Wagner's liefmotifs and expanded it 10x. Just look at the score for Star Wars; how Williams would not only take melodies and play them but mold them into a suite of simultaneous emotions and themes. In fact, Star Wars can be considered one of the greatest operas of the latter half of the 20th century.
@MrMrmike5 Good God. One of the greatest operas of the latter half of the 20th century? He did take Wagner's motifs, but was unable to transform and develop them in different guises to the same affect as Wagner. A famous, and popular, example: Tristan und Isolde. Analyse the score and you will discover that four note motif in continual development as the characters develop. Wagner's orchestra and music is the ideal spectator, commenting and prophesying through the development of the leitmotifs.
@1AdrianR Wait a second. I'm just establishing the legitimacy of William's musical ability as some people just find Williams to be void of any kind of musical ability or style. And besides, I think whereas Wagner attaches a particular motif to a particular character, I find that William's motifs reflect on the emotional status of the character. You can find, when listening to Anakin's theme in Ep. 1, how innocent the theme is yet subtle with foreboding overtones of the future.
This is something which of course Williams tried to emulate. However, Star Wars is not an opera. If anything, it is a symphonic poem, or incidental music.
@jaykay2003 What the hell are you talking about? There are no melodic similarities whatsoever in the theme. Parade of the Ewoks has very similar rhythms going through it. However, it's not plagarism it's much the same as rock stars who 'steal' the 12 bar blues. I can't stand ponces.
@GGbreizh Brahms is THE genius. He is in the top 10 of the greatest composers. Listen to his 2nd piano concerto, or to his symphonies, and then we talk.
@BasileusR "He is in the top 10 of the greatest composers" This means NOTHING !!
Moreover I like his concertos, but I think there much greater concertos. Moreover, Tchaïkovsky didn't like Brahms' music, that means that this just a matter of opinions.
At last, I want to add tha tI like Brahms music, and that what I said wasn't serious, I was just answering to jaykay2003 who said "Williams is nothing but a plagiarist. Without Prokofiev he would be nothing....."
@jaykay2003 I must also add that you don't know much about Williams... Because he was known before as a jazz arranger, conductor and pianist. Later he composed works for the concert hall wich were created by Previn, Slatkin, (the Essay for strings for exemple), and those work are not necesseraly inspired from Prokofiev.
If you listen the Jane Eyre suite (Williams considered Jane Eyre as one of his finest score), he took his inspiration from England and british composers.
Rhytmicly it is limping, but I'm sure that's tha inaccuracy of the duo-art-system. I'm sure he didn't play it accactly this way. I have a record of P. playing at a duo-art roll as well, and it has the same irregularity in rhytm and dynamic. You have to try and listen through that. Then you still hear a great pianist. Such a shame there are no live-recordings of him. Or are there?
This is exactly what John Williams took for the theme in "Star Wars" and that they decently call "influenced by Prokofiev" without even mentioning his name in the subtitles. It is usually called a plagiarism in a civilized world which US so "endeavour" to do.
Also listen to the soundtrack to Akira Kurosawa's film Seven Samurai, I wish i could remember the composers name, but its does sound a lot like star wars theme, take into consideration that George Lucas is very influcenced by Kurosawa and cites him as an influence and i wonder if Williams too was influenced by Kurosawa's films
@SynysterGates93 Well its hard to be original when you have 500 years of other musicians playing classical music and inventing something new in that genre!
Actually, I prefer it on violin, having first heard it played by Eugene Fodor with the Colorado Symphony Recording in the mid '70's, after the Tchaikovsky competition that he "tied for second" in Russia. Oh please.
If you have copy of Fodor doing the "March for the Love of three Oranges," I would be eterally grateful. Thank you so much, skitodieclub
I imagine the bolsheviks and communist in the streets of Petrograd or Leningrad or Moscu duringf the russian revolution, Lenin speaking to people, Stalin's red guards, propaganda or things like also, but with the sarcasm or parody,unmistakable of Prokofiev.
Very good, is a piece that I like since the first time I heard.
You are brainwashed too much, it's all propaganda. There were so much executions as anglosuckson propaganda tells. Mostly NKVD arrested engineers in order to send them to strategic objects. These things were very useful while our war with Hitler.
I have heard and lovd this since I was a rather small child. But then, I grew up in a household that played classical and jazz music, and discussed poetry and current events at the dinner table. (And I'm 56 years old, so when I say "jazz", it's the swing era and before.)
First of all, you ignorant moron: this is not a song since NOBODY's singing.
Secondly, R&B is pure junk and you are so uncivilized that you're still stuck in the context 'coolness'. OMG! Why am I even arguing with somebody who's already confessed he's keep out of our premises because he's too stupid to comprehend one of the most comprehensible pieces of the 29th century.
So you don't get classical music. Your loss. Saying you prefer r&b to Prokofieff is like saying you like candy bars better than Lobster Thermidor and comic books better than Shakespeare. I like candy bars, comic books and r&b too, but I don't mistake them for the real thing.
Good point, but it was Prokofiev who was inspired by the Ewoks theme, not the other way around. On the whole, I prefer Williams' original, since it's much easier to play on the kazoo.
The level of ignorance displayed on YouTube beggars belief. Considering that Prokofiev died in 1953 he was in no position to be 'inspired' by a theme written decades after his death. Fool.
It's a roll recording, which means it's not very authentic. Rolls can't correctly capture tempo or dynamics, and expression is quite limited. There's a few genuine recordings out there of Prokofiev that are of much more worth if you're looking to study his musicianship- mostly of Chopin and himself (particularly his own 1st Piano Concerto).
Theoshow2- I don't think this is even a genuine Prokofiev recording. Where did you come by this? I've never heard a player piano recording so well done, and I don't think Prokofiev would have bothered with them when they had audio. Not to mention, the tempo on these things is impossible to re-create.
I'm not sure. Whomever the original pianist was, he/she is/was extremely good. And the tempo isn't that unrealistic. Are you saying it's too fast on the rolls?
Sounds like a CD "Masters of the Piano Roll: Prokofiev plays Prokofiev" (Dal Segno)
"This collection, which originates from Australian musicologist Denis Condon, is historically important... four great piano roll manufacturers: Welte Mignon.. Ampico.. Duo-Art.. and Triphonola.. The recordings in this album were made by a device with felt covered aluminum 'fingers' which can read the paper rolls and when attached to any modern day piano, can reproduce the music from the original recording."
Last time I checked, this was Prokofiev we're listening to, not Brahms, Williams or anyone else. Appreciate the beautiful music people, stick to the topic.
justlooseit8567 1 month ago
this puts my mood in a very march like, he realy knows how to name his songs!=)
pepermint60 2 months ago
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...and then accompanies you all day....and night.....I find them "dangerous"......wonderful !!!!!!!
heinerwegscheider 5 months ago
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heinerwegscheider 5 months ago
Star Wars
rauljess 5 months ago
i've always love this opera and particularry this march...
Shostakovichforever 6 months ago
Williams made this sound alot better.
MrMrmike5 8 months ago
@MrMrmike5
Williams? John Williams? Come on.... Williams is nothing but a plagiarist. Without Prokofiev he would be nothing.....
jaykay2003 6 months ago
@jaykay2003 Yet, Williams is an American icon, actually a world icon...Either good guys finish last or John Williams is a musical genius. cant condemn a composer for his work sounding like other people work, he drew on musical themes of the past to create a new style of music
MrMrmike5 6 months ago
@MrMrmike5 He only 'emulated' Wagner, he didn't create a new style or innovate.
1AdrianR 5 months ago
@1AdrianR I disagree. He took Wagner's liefmotifs and expanded it 10x. Just look at the score for Star Wars; how Williams would not only take melodies and play them but mold them into a suite of simultaneous emotions and themes. In fact, Star Wars can be considered one of the greatest operas of the latter half of the 20th century.
MrMrmike5 5 months ago
@MrMrmike5 Good God. One of the greatest operas of the latter half of the 20th century? He did take Wagner's motifs, but was unable to transform and develop them in different guises to the same affect as Wagner. A famous, and popular, example: Tristan und Isolde. Analyse the score and you will discover that four note motif in continual development as the characters develop. Wagner's orchestra and music is the ideal spectator, commenting and prophesying through the development of the leitmotifs.
1AdrianR 5 months ago
@1AdrianR Wait a second. I'm just establishing the legitimacy of William's musical ability as some people just find Williams to be void of any kind of musical ability or style. And besides, I think whereas Wagner attaches a particular motif to a particular character, I find that William's motifs reflect on the emotional status of the character. You can find, when listening to Anakin's theme in Ep. 1, how innocent the theme is yet subtle with foreboding overtones of the future.
MrMrmike5 5 months ago
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GGbreizh 3 months ago
This is something which of course Williams tried to emulate. However, Star Wars is not an opera. If anything, it is a symphonic poem, or incidental music.
1AdrianR 5 months ago
@1AdrianR I know the term 'Space Opera' isn't in relation to any kind of music; however, with Star Wars, theres a considerable exception.
MrMrmike5 5 months ago
@jaykay2003 What the hell are you talking about? There are no melodic similarities whatsoever in the theme. Parade of the Ewoks has very similar rhythms going through it. However, it's not plagarism it's much the same as rock stars who 'steal' the 12 bar blues. I can't stand ponces.
teasingmeification 3 months ago
@jaykay2003 Have you ever considered that what you said is a non sense ? Brahms is nothing but a plagiarist. Without Beethoven he would be nothing.
GGbreizh 3 months ago
@GGbreizh Brahms is THE genius. He is in the top 10 of the greatest composers. Listen to his 2nd piano concerto, or to his symphonies, and then we talk.
BasileusR 2 months ago
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@BasileusR "He is in the top 10 of the greatest composers" This means NOTHING !!
Moreover I like his concertos, but I think there much greater concertos. Moreover, Tchaïkovsky didn't like Brahms' music, that means that this just a matter of opinions.
At last, I want to add tha tI like Brahms music, and that what I said wasn't serious, I was just answering to jaykay2003 who said "Williams is nothing but a plagiarist. Without Prokofiev he would be nothing....."
GGbreizh 2 months ago
@GGbreizh Search for "Brahms concerto 2 sokolov", and give it a listen, I swear you will change your opinion.
BasileusR 2 months ago
@jaykay2003 I must also add that you don't know much about Williams... Because he was known before as a jazz arranger, conductor and pianist. Later he composed works for the concert hall wich were created by Previn, Slatkin, (the Essay for strings for exemple), and those work are not necesseraly inspired from Prokofiev.
If you listen the Jane Eyre suite (Williams considered Jane Eyre as one of his finest score), he took his inspiration from England and british composers.
GGbreizh 3 months ago
♫ 'Cuz my name's Sergei ProKOfieeev!! If you don't like me now, I don't care! ♫
I bet if I told him that was the refrain to this song, he would have laughed at me.
Flutist11 10 months ago
I'm playing this with trumpet. Kind of hard to play, but I love this song.
Ypsilon94 1 year ago
Diabolic piece??? Stunning music! Very special feeling to hear it in Prokofiev's rendition. Thanks for posting.
tamerlano236 1 year ago
1930s New York
caracoltres 1 year ago
levantemos todos la bandera mogólica!!!!
Andrespilar1 1 year ago
is there a longer version of this song??
siegetank55 1 year ago
Undoubtedly the most diabolical piece I have ever played.
Kperson123 1 year ago
The opera isn't diabolical, but this march sure sounds that way!
tetrisclock 1 year ago
@Kperson123 : Silly, willy !
MusicPredominates 1 year ago
revolutionary music, ...so great Prokofiev
pedroanimb 1 year ago
Это очень приятно. Мне нравится этот кусок, и композитор, очень много.
С уважением, Дэвид Харт, американский пианист / Композитор
hartistry 2 years ago
NICE!!!!!!!!!!
bazonce911 2 years ago
This is great! Another great version is of Jascha Heifetz playin this on violin.
tetrisclock 2 years ago
AMAZING!!
kempff95 2 years ago
Rhytmicly it is limping, but I'm sure that's tha inaccuracy of the duo-art-system. I'm sure he didn't play it accactly this way. I have a record of P. playing at a duo-art roll as well, and it has the same irregularity in rhytm and dynamic. You have to try and listen through that. Then you still hear a great pianist. Such a shame there are no live-recordings of him. Or are there?
vlotjah 2 years ago
Well, Prokofiev made little bit of recordings, including the thirrd concerto
dandelion1967 2 years ago
Thank you!
The searching starts now....
vlotjah 2 years ago
Great SOUND quality!
Rubinstein played this often as an encore, and HE really played with a panache that's missing here.
Even so, unlike Prokofiev's recording of his Toccata, this is excellent playing.
Pischnaholic 2 years ago
i <3 this song
Jesslyncool 2 years ago
@Jesslyncool I agree this song is awesome!
trexlakes 1 year ago
LEGENDARY!
fdlbeats 2 years ago
yo yo ma does a great version of this song! it's actually how i became acquainted with the melody in the first place!
xanfus 2 years ago
All of his recordings make his music so much more haunting.
PiePirate1 2 years ago
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This is exactly what John Williams took for the theme in "Star Wars" and that they decently call "influenced by Prokofiev" without even mentioning his name in the subtitles. It is usually called a plagiarism in a civilized world which US so "endeavour" to do.
Arobinek 2 years ago
Also listen to the soundtrack to Akira Kurosawa's film Seven Samurai, I wish i could remember the composers name, but its does sound a lot like star wars theme, take into consideration that George Lucas is very influcenced by Kurosawa and cites him as an influence and i wonder if Williams too was influenced by Kurosawa's films
almanacofsleep 2 years ago
John Williams steals alot. Listen to "Jaws" and then listen to New World Symphony Finale by Dvorak. Almost exactly the same.
SynysterGates93 2 years ago
@SynysterGates93 Well its hard to be original when you have 500 years of other musicians playing classical music and inventing something new in that genre!
MrMrmike5 8 months ago
Great!
Arobinek 2 years ago
its one of the exam pieces in the grade 8 syllabus this year =)
juergen1992 2 years ago
is it? kl
lordking9 2 years ago
i'm doing this for my grade 8... it's such a fun piece to do!
rosalindmay 2 years ago
Wonderful!
ForeverIsis 3 years ago
wow! the sound quality is amazing for such an old recording.
MillyProductions 3 years ago
it's a piano roll
bomberchicken 2 years ago
i hadn't known that until more recently.
MillyProductions 2 years ago
awesome
rubiness511 3 years ago
i like to hear from the maestro himself.
liszty88 3 years ago
Is the name "The love OF three oranges"or "the love FOR three oranges"?I saw it was "FOR" in ABRSM's Grade 8 piano syllabus.
serene06 3 years ago
"boy, that's getting it cheap" Bukowski
p0ooo0p 3 years ago
e' proprio èrokofiev
goldberg72 3 years ago
great recording!
pianolasociety 3 years ago
Actually, I prefer it on violin, having first heard it played by Eugene Fodor with the Colorado Symphony Recording in the mid '70's, after the Tchaikovsky competition that he "tied for second" in Russia. Oh please.
If you have copy of Fodor doing the "March for the Love of three Oranges," I would be eterally grateful. Thank you so much, skitodieclub
SkitoDieClub 3 years ago
What a beautiful sound, like a perfection.
BarNuun 3 years ago
Es igual a un tema de la Guerra de las Galaxias (Star War), John Williams has hecho plagío?
joseonuba26 3 years ago
Por supuesto que si.
sciprio 3 years ago
Isn't this great?
inksac 3 years ago
jesus christ... this is amaizing!
Wuayker 3 years ago
Great piece of work and art.
sisisioao 3 years ago
I imagine the bolsheviks and communist in the streets of Petrograd or Leningrad or Moscu duringf the russian revolution, Lenin speaking to people, Stalin's red guards, propaganda or things like also, but with the sarcasm or parody,unmistakable of Prokofiev.
Very good, is a piece that I like since the first time I heard.
ArturoAlejandroS 3 years ago
((((
nemesida7 3 years ago
You are brainwashed too much, it's all propaganda. There were so much executions as anglosuckson propaganda tells. Mostly NKVD arrested engineers in order to send them to strategic objects. These things were very useful while our war with Hitler.
Emacs23 2 years ago
I have heard and lovd this since I was a rather small child. But then, I grew up in a household that played classical and jazz music, and discussed poetry and current events at the dinner table. (And I'm 56 years old, so when I say "jazz", it's the swing era and before.)
marykmusic 3 years ago
I love it. I get it. I understand it. Life is good. Thanks Sergei.
marcparella 3 years ago
You hate this great work of classical music, emmabequm, because you are a stupid, knuckle-dragging boor.
Ultrabrut1 4 years ago
lmao
kittyx93 2 years ago
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i hate this song i don't even know why i am listening to it i am so cool like i listen to r&b music not this fukin junk!!!!!
Emmabegum 4 years ago
First of all, you ignorant moron: this is not a song since NOBODY's singing.
Secondly, R&B is pure junk and you are so uncivilized that you're still stuck in the context 'coolness'. OMG! Why am I even arguing with somebody who's already confessed he's keep out of our premises because he's too stupid to comprehend one of the most comprehensible pieces of the 29th century.
aldebussy 3 years ago
oops! I meant 20th century and that should be 'he'd'.
aldebussy 3 years ago
You are too cool for intelligent people. O.k, bye.
sisisioao 3 years ago
do u even know what r&b stands for?
Stratman549 3 years ago
So you don't get classical music. Your loss. Saying you prefer r&b to Prokofieff is like saying you like candy bars better than Lobster Thermidor and comic books better than Shakespeare. I like candy bars, comic books and r&b too, but I don't mistake them for the real thing.
gspaulsson 3 years ago
i like the ewok comparison. But then again WIlliams could have chosen that Key within no similiarity since theres millions of songs in this key
argentinedogo 4 years ago
Good point, but it was Prokofiev who was inspired by the Ewoks theme, not the other way around. On the whole, I prefer Williams' original, since it's much easier to play on the kazoo.
acr08807 4 years ago
The level of ignorance displayed on YouTube beggars belief. Considering that Prokofiev died in 1953 he was in no position to be 'inspired' by a theme written decades after his death. Fool.
pljms 4 years ago
now there's irony for you. It was a joke.
gnamp 3 years ago
Is this a joke?
Biscuitneilston 3 years ago
LOL, funny how nobody got your joke. :-D
Timrath 3 years ago
Yeah, the level of ignorance displayed on YouTube beggars belief.
acr08807 3 years ago
Dear, acr08807,
AMEN!
Pischnaholic 2 years ago
hahaha
I'm so sorry that people didn't understand this. Just so you know- it was very much appreciated haha
vocalpianist 3 years ago
anyone else here believes that John Williams was inspired by this when he wrote parade of the Ewoks.
darkandunatural 4 years ago
Wow, now that you mention it, it does!
jivjago 4 years ago
It's a roll recording, which means it's not very authentic. Rolls can't correctly capture tempo or dynamics, and expression is quite limited. There's a few genuine recordings out there of Prokofiev that are of much more worth if you're looking to study his musicianship- mostly of Chopin and himself (particularly his own 1st Piano Concerto).
Ostendere 4 years ago
la marche ! I played that with my orchestra.
how fun ! I love l'amour des trois oranges
mysticmansion555 4 years ago 2
we played this for our midle school band
pd106593 4 years ago
Theoshow2- I don't think this is even a genuine Prokofiev recording. Where did you come by this? I've never heard a player piano recording so well done, and I don't think Prokofiev would have bothered with them when they had audio. Not to mention, the tempo on these things is impossible to re-create.
sketchphonics 4 years ago
I'm not sure. Whomever the original pianist was, he/she is/was extremely good. And the tempo isn't that unrealistic. Are you saying it's too fast on the rolls?
Either way, it was fun listening to this. :)
AnIcyTruth 4 years ago
Sounds like a CD "Masters of the Piano Roll: Prokofiev plays Prokofiev" (Dal Segno)
"This collection, which originates from Australian musicologist Denis Condon, is historically important... four great piano roll manufacturers: Welte Mignon.. Ampico.. Duo-Art.. and Triphonola.. The recordings in this album were made by a device with felt covered aluminum 'fingers' which can read the paper rolls and when attached to any modern day piano, can reproduce the music from the original recording."
pianojerome 4 years ago 2
Prokofiev is my all-time favourite composer. Thank you for posting this!
woolyfsh 4 years ago 4
my favourite piece :)
sviatoslavberezovsky 4 years ago 4
I like Prokofiev,s style. He,s for my favs.
shela2 4 years ago 6
wow is that really Prokofiev??? so beautiful!! thanks for posting it.
IloveAlexisBledel689 4 years ago 4