Yoga: Behind the fatwa - Part 1

[giriisindahouse]

Its stupid how Christians and Muslims say doing yoga is a sin. Your a radical religious terrorist if you think doing the postures are a sin. If you go deep, and it says think of Brahman, isn't it easy to substitute it to Allah or God? After all deeper yoga is a form of meditation

[redeye2811]

Ok...this as we know the way hindus pray...so why people AROUND the world doesn't practice the movements of Muslim prayers?Without chanting of course so there's no religious factors...oh?yes!people never do this because of those discriminating thinking...it is proved by science that during bowing down our head in sujud the brain receive some blood suppliance..and the "5 times" a day is the proper times the brain need that blood..hmmm????so?how?huh..eve­n muslims doesn't do this everyday...

[Vignash13]

@redeye2811 this is not how hindus pray.. its a form of exercise that improve blood flow. very beneficial.. gt ur facts straight.

[aparaajita10]

Yoda is haraam in islaam, & it is the devil's path in christianity. Is it not that both christianit & islam are controlling their followers by keeping them physically & mentally unbalanced? For only a person in good mental & physical health (I don't mean that you bulk up your muscles & run on a treadmill etc) will always have the ability to see the nefarious agenda & the sharp mental & emotional acuity to perceive beyond the 5 senses.

[kenkhan]

intentions are important!

[escobar]

haram bile membuat sambil membaca mentera la dowh......kalo wat yoga jew xper

[killintymm]

yeah muslims cant question anything. or you will be thrown into prison, lashed, some body parts cut in the mosque.

[lahij]

because muslim use pray, yoga is really fitness or faith? i dont know which yoga fact is faith or fitness, muslim girl need from no muslim ability and no muslim girl need lear from muslim ability share

[pinang9]

4.02 "questioning a fatwa is like questioning an aspect of the religion of islam"...??

wat kinda argument is that..??wat kinda relligion is that....?? no wonder the muslim world is so far behind the rest of the world....even with their petro-dollar...

higher moral standing??...errr, most wars today are fought in the name of islam!

[zodiak121]

guys calm down yoga is not haram as the islamic saying gose "ima al a'malu belniyat" it genrely means it depends on your intention if for religus reasons then it is haram if for physichal benifit then it is halal .

[zynoxsty]

aiyo u guys..read careFOOLy 1.21...

fizikal movement/rutin with yoga not a problem...

only haram if its involve spell, mentera and puja2 thinggy...

for those Islam on ur name cum on get tunaikan solat...

spend big time on yoga but not 10minit x 5times a day???

duuhhh

[gpardhu]

i dnt understand why muslims still stickin to that islam ideology..it has done them less good and more harm in past and present history..

[ashutoshmikku]

Why do Mullahs think that they own people's lives. They really are kids and need spanking :)

[IronGuy100]

muslims need to grow up

[IQ233]

There is nothing wrong with the physical part of Yoga, however that's not all there is to Yoga.

watch "gods of the new age" documentary on youtube.

[PrinceInShadow]

jaga solat cukup,xyah yoga pon xper.tenang dunia akhirat..

[borhan21]

banyak lagi cara senaman... bukan yoga saja... boleh pilih...

[MatrixOfDynamism]

these people have to go through the scrutiny process again

[dotcomyoga]

Their interpretation of hatha yoga with their three elements would be Haram No Doubt. But the yoga that most people do in your local fitness centers is nothing more than a mind and body exercise routine.

[harriskee87]

SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE A VERY LOVELY STATEMENT NEXT JAKIM WILL MOST LIKELY HAVE IMPOSE FATWA BAN ON THE FOLLOWING:

1. All Muslim who use number '0' this is originated philosophy of Suniyam (Nothingness). There is indirect approach to accept the truth of universal creation. It may not suitable for Muslim.

2. Muslim shouldnt practice NLP

3. Muslim shouldnt use 'pi' formula.

4. Muslim shouldnt use 'Chess Game'.

5. Muslim shouldnt use Arithmetic and Geometric maths formulas.

islam bodoh lah...

[GanyangMalingsialan]

watch "Malaysia destroy Hindu temples"

WHY bumipondan ??? why???what have Indian Malaysian done to you????

[IQ233]

Yoga should be haram. watch "mind control religions of the east" video

[rugbyboi]

lmao ureee soo stupid

[IQ233]

That video got deleted, watch "gods of the new age" documentary on youtube.

[Leon612]

for god's sake! it's just YOGA! Muslims bitch about everything!....like those little cartoons...

[Jay14319]

Yoga is the way of life but what to do if some of the community fears to face the truth...

[abdulmuhaiminali]

i think we should really open a dialogue about yoga. we should invite each representative to express their view. the problem with majlis fatwa is, they just discuss among themselves and suddenly issue a fatwa. no one like to be told what to do. we need to educate the society not suddenly tell them what to do and what not. i am not against the fatwa. but at least, try to educate the society before implementing any rule.

we should put really good thinker in muslim community.

[aio193]

my god. Islam preaches being nice to people. how can you say such a thing to someone? Cant you reply with a bit of class?

[rugbyboi]

u stupid person get a life

[cocoda88]

As far as i'm concern, the 'bersanding' practice in malaysia is also originated from hindu. so, is the bersanding will be ban next?

[aio193]

Its already a part of malay culture already. So i think the hindu part is irrelevant already.

[Umno4ever]

Sedarlah Melayu. Janganlah memberuk budaya luar. Indera86 anda lah pejuang Melayu tulin. Kite sokong awat. Budaya kafir macam inilah yang merosakkan orang orang Melayu. Kalau tak suke balik negeri lerr

[aio193]

Kita tak boleh sewenang wenangnya menyatakan sesuatu budaya di luar Islam sebagai budaya kafir. Dan TAK terbukit budaya yoga merosakkan orang melayu. Bukti apa? Ada sesiapa yang murtad?

Ada beribu budaya di dunia. Kita ambik yang baik. tinggalkan yang buruk. Dan tak mencacikan yang buruk jikalau boleh.

[aio193]

sheesh. and i guess you're the best example of mankind since you think others a disgrace. Go get out more often. Too bad 6 years of learning fikh in arabic text did not teach you humility. Sorry if this comment is too westernized for you..

[masterchiefbert]

What are they gonna do if our Moslem friends pratices yoga privately at home ? Maybe they'll make a law that all Moslem homes will be installed with close circuit cameras and will be monitored by the clerics. Additionally it creates many jobs for unemployed local grads .Many things can happen in Malaysia. Just wait and see.

[sizzer33]

Yoga helped my dad sleep peacefully after years of insomnia. Heals the bad joints as well. These Fatwa gang should just stop doing useless shit like this. People should just forget about their existence as most things done by them are just fucking useless.

[indera86]

owh really? at the beginning, you asked the question;'owh~~is it ok with my faith?'. say, did you issue that question to manasekaran?...owh ..ok

[MrAliMcB]

the clerics only mentioned it's forbidden ONLY if it contains all the 3 elements (emphasis on the WORSHIPPING & CHANTING part)

so if the yoga we do only contains ONE of the element (physical exercise), then by right & definition of the fatwa itself it shouldn't be a problem!

they should have mentioned that instead of zealously banning it altogether

stop giving islam/malaysia bad press to other religions/countries!!!

[kuttybiscuit]

I truly respect you (aio193) as a muslim and able to understand about Yoga....There should be more ppl like u around.

[aio193]

As much as I would like to take that as a compliment kuttybiscuit, but all credit goes to the two women instructors whom I know personally in the video above. They too had their doubts, but rather than just blindingly believing what the masses would, they did something Islam preached. They read and learn more about the craft, and found what they did is not misleading.

[aio193]

Now before everyone says i am a BAD muslim and hilang arah tuju.I am very aware of my religion.I have never believed that yoga has swayed my aqidah.n better,there was never any chanting.heavy breathing?yess

I am not dumb. I am a muslim.I do yoga for physical and mental benefits only.

How? physically uses a lot of the core. And I have bad knees.

Mental?Believing that u can execute a pose is crucial.Body awareness,knowing where ur hands are. Thats how it works.

For me at least.

[MrAliMcB]

It's nice to hear from someone without a loose screw in their heads, for a change.

I totally agree with you. I'm so SICK of my intelligence being belittled. We're humans gifted with brains, not blind folded lambs who are too susceptible to being 'led astray'. Education is the key, no?

[aio193]

Oh Mr AliMcB, my thoughts exactly. Is not that I am not open to listen to the council's decision and reasoning, but the attitude of 'not to question us' is just a bit too much.

I am not worthy of asking any questions? to prod more? cant the non-muslims ask why is it even banned? whats wrong with that? Since when Islam is only exclusive to muslims?

Great exposure for yoga though. If only people read and understand yoga, then only they will be preplexed with the decision.

[aio193]

One of the many reasons I reply to most of your comments is that,most commentators have misconception of yoga and how it is practised in malaysia.

It is fine the fatwa council is doing their job, but the lack of transparency on their research paper, their sources, and the lack of proper discussions with experts or even analyzing how yoga was back then and today, shows the lack of research depth.

My engineering article was even more tedious.

[mamatslack]

A muslims who says that yoga is real physical and mental benefits is already gone astray in terms of their "aqidah". It's because benefit and harm is only come from GOD..

There's nothing to do with good exercise or Hindu origins. Whatever your actions, words or thought that make you think benefits and harms come from something else, you already gone shirik!!!

..and non-muslim has nothing to do with this,

so mind your own business

[aio193]

Of course everything in the world comes from God. Does that mean if people say rokok membahayakan that is also comes from God? i think its an over-abused phrase. Good things come from Allah. period.

I am a muslim with bad ankles from football and basketball. Yoga helped me a lot and it never swayed my 'aqidah'.I never say yoga is better than solat. i take yoga, for my own physical and mental benefit.Its not easy holding a pose. Its like gymnastics.

Why not I just call it, physiotherapy then.

[reduviidae]

Even in Christianity, Yoga is considered inappropriate.

[indera86]

including those of the chinese guy at the end of the video. Get out of our face.

[indera86]

if its veda's way of life you choose, so be it. but all hands off Islam!

[indera86]

all the malays you interviewed, malaysia kini, are not good muslims. look at how they represent themselves to the public (skimpy clothings). that shows how shallow your knowledge is about Islam, so shut your yap and start learning. 'commercialized' is to your benefit, mr. manisekaran. you do not want to get near this (our concern, which is Islam).This woman said; 'as a muslim, i should know what to practice'. start with hijab, won't ya because it just so happen; Islam is a way of life.

[aio193]

How dare you judge them. Who are you to judge? Skimpy clothes? Didn't you notice that they are in a class? They're not walking out in those clothes. You feel these women have no dignity? I understand Islam. And I am not swayed by yoga and feel yoga is the answer for my life. Mr manisekaran is a yoga expert. He understands the history and the present.

Perhaps before you comment, do a little more research on yoga. you sound too bitter.

[duarius]

0:15 huhu blek metel.. wargh!

[HolyXerxes]

True!!!

[chemistro11]

solat is islamic "yoga". So be a good muslim. " Hanya dengan mengingat Allah, hati akan menjdi tenang"

[aio193]

Mencari ketenangan tak semestinya hanya dengan solat. It was never said, and solat is not REALLY for mencari ketenangan.

Solat, untuk menyembah Allah. Bukan untuk rekreasi. Yoga bukan untuk menyembah sesiapa, tetapi untuk kesihatan fizikal dan mental.

Mungkin ada kelas yoga yang menyimpang dari ajaran islam, tetapi kelas kelas di gim gim, semua untuk aktiviti fizikal.

Mmg benar asal usul yoga dari India, bukankah kita juga boleh berkata demikian mengenai silat dan tangkal tangkal jampinya?