Mahmood is in the MCC playing against Durham today, Honestly he is a very over-rated bowler, yes he can bowl quick but can never bowl a delivery in the same spot twice in a row, at times his bowling is just filth.
half our populatin r in poverty, so they dont play any sport wahtever, they struggle to feed themslevs.
atleast gt a domestic structure, which when a player performs for a while he will get noticed and picked.
and thas true, pk never been a team. always individual battle. orite man this shit gettin tirin lol. so we got diferent opinions. my point was saj mahmood wudn't get into da pk team, and dad comment by english support fueled me on and shit. orite anyways peace.
ok so akhtar aint disiplined. but he still better than englands fast bowlers, and any england hav produced (bar gough). da steroids wer later found to be accidental btw.
i dont think u hav seen pk play in a while, if ur judgin gul on da series vs england, cuz today hes improved bigstyle, hes a fast-bowler, worlds best at reverse swing, and accurate. vs england he was new, comin of injury.
and again if ur sayin tanvir? who. dats crazy. u aint seen da t20 wrld cup,da ipl and pk's recent odi's.
ok so we have our problems in disipline nd shit.but my point is our quality is better. flintoff was a one series wonder,da ashes which is why langer sed dat.apart from dat he aint bin special.wtf,panesar best finga spinna in da world r u on crak, wut about vettori. i can say broad? who,cuz he aint done shit wit da ball.akhtar and bond r both in da top ten test bowlas,both have been out of test cricket for around a year, so dnt be trustin does rankins.but i admit r.s is deadly with da new ball.
Langer quote: '"Since the 2005 Ashes series, it has been my strong opinion that he is the best fast bowler currently playing international cricket - he must play in England's first XI.'
You want english legends..... here we go.... Botham, Willis, Boycott, Trueman, Laker, Fraser, Malcolm, Flintoff, Gough, Hick (County Wise), Ramprakash (Again County Wise), Caddick etc. etc. Yes maybe a few on the list arent world known but you wouldnt of heard of most of these because of your lack of knowledge of the game and ur utter stupidity.
I agree with you. Last time England played Pakistan England won 3-0. . Won last series against NZ, WI, Bangladesh
1-0 against India in India and of course being thrashed themselves by the Ozzies 5-0. They play better at home. Though last time they played SA in SA they beat them comprehensively
They are too concerned about Oz though. Bottle in in OZ - it means (too) much to them, everything is "In time for the Ashes".
England should play every test series with that level of importance
AKTHAR(90-95mph nowadays),swings both ways, reverses old ball,1 of da wrlds best yorker.gets into any side in da world wen fit.
ASIF 80+, extreme accuracy, swings ball both ways, reverses the old ball. wud get into any side in da world
GUL 85mph+, is increasin in pace, swings ball both ways, very affective reverse swing, a wickettaking yorker, young/improvin (BTW HIS TEST AVERAGE BETTA DAN BROAD,ANDASON,FLINTOFF,panesar)
TANVIR 80mph+,swings both ways,hard 2 pick,young.wickettaker
SIDEBOTTOM 80mph+ swings both ways(with new ball. inaffective with old ball.
ANDERSON 85mph+ swings da new ball, very inconsistant and inacurate.
BROAD he got decent pace, but no swing no seam, depends on his bounce, lets see if he improves
FLINTOFF 88mph+, swings both ways, reverses the old ball, gd yorker, but lacks da true fast bowlers strike rate (wud get in to any side wen fit and firing)
PANESAR wickettaker, decent spinner (especially for englands poor standards of spinners)
SIDEBOTTOM - Deadly with the new ball and defends effectively with the old ball. Ranked in the world's top ten bowlers.
ANDERSON - Inconsistent, but deadly on his day.
BROAD - Bowls at a lively rate from a good height. Learns quickly and swings the ball in the right conditions. Averages 36 at No. 8. FLINTOFF - "The best fast bowler in the world" - Justin Langer. Five test centuries too.
@vicavox ASIF - Drug taking, corrupt cheat. AMIR - Promising youngster but a corrupt bribe taking cheat. RIAZ - Potential cheat after allegedly accepting money hidden in a blazer. AJMAL - Decent spin bowler, but over the hill and too old for Pakistan to be looking forward with him. As for the rest of their bowlers: KANERIA: Never bowled enough to regain consistency AKHTAR: Steroid taking cheat. TANVIR: Where's he gone? GUL: Known as a "T20 bowler" - says it all. Pakistan = finished
@vicavox Well they are in the semi-final of the world cup and england has been sent home by nz hahahahahahahahahahaha stop with cricket please hahahahaha
@vicavox Broad 6*6= 36 Anderson = shit Finn = only good in test as he never will get a chance in odi Swann = Only good because musthaq ahmad trained him otherwise he was nothing so what are talking about
@fcfalik Well that's just the worst assessment I've ever heard. No logic, stats or facts to back up this tripe. To suggest Broad or Anderson rank as "shit" is ignorant at best and biased at worst.
@vicavox Well then what are talking about the pakistan bowlers the whole world now that the pakistan bowlers are the best and with durgs you can bowl 160 MPh and why you dont try it then we will see if you can wing the ball and bowl 160 mph and tanvir was the best ipl bowler where are the england bowlers never heared about them just in this world cup what did anderson to save england got smacked around the park against bangladesh so please stop hating pakistan and thier talented bowlers.
@fcfalik This is the point, Pakistani supporters see the cricketing world through green-tinted glasses. England this World Cup have been atrocious but then they haven't stopped playing cricket since November last year while Pakistan barely play two test matches a year. I had heard of Tanvir because I'm a fan of cricket - he played for Rajhastan Royals and was with Shane Watson their best player, so don't try and claim I'm ignorant. The English side were weak this world cup but everyone...
@vicavox ...knew that it was a weak English side, suffering with injuries to key players i.e. Pietersen, Broad and that it was a poorly picked side considering you have players like Kieswetter and Hildreth waiting in the wings - but England have never been good at one day cricket. Pakistan have some potentially talented players but they never show it consistently enough - they're good but not as good as you make it out to be. I don't want to get involved in youtube wars - waste of time. Enough.
@vicavox Well if you think that england had a weak team this world cup the think again they had the same players who won the ashes. So what are you talking about. And pakistan play 2 test a year but still they are better then England and they are in the semi-finals of the world cup where is england in london or manchester hahaha.
New Zealand Dan Vettori-Best ODI and sometimes best Test Bowler in the world. Best Spinner and defantely best left arm spinner AND bowler in the world. Not to mention one of the Best captains in the world, all rounders and 6 test centuries. PLUS has had the job of being a selector! Brendon Mccullum- One of the best 20/20 / ODI batsmen in the world, also recently moved up to opening in the test format which since moving there his test average exceeds 80 including 2 double centuries.
yo englishsupporter u talkin bullshit. akhtar,asif,tanvir,umar gul. are all ten times betta dan any of ur english bowlas. saj mahmood wud struggle gettin into our pakistan A team forget da national side. so stop tryin to say england beta dan pak, with ur bullshit comment. and tbh he deserves to be in da eng team, hes betta dan anderson,sidebottom,broad and all of ur overated bowlas. when all our players r playin, pk got da worlds best bowlin line up, thats a fact
Do you watch much cricket. This seems like nationalistic bullshit based more on blind loyalty that any knowledge about cricket. Akhtar can be effective, but he is a loose cannon who has a disruptive effect on his team. Umar Gul is a great one day bowler, but in real cricket (test matches) he's not very effective. Tanvir is a nobody. I do have respect for Asif though, he's a quality bowler. Shame he's also a drug traffiker.
yo englishsupporter u talkin bullshit. akhtar,asif,tanvir,umar gul. are all ten times betta dan any of ur english bowlas. saj mahmood wud struggle gettin into our pakistan A team forget da national side. so stop tryin to say england beta dan pak, with ur bullshit comment. and tbh he deserves to be in da eng team, hes betta dan anderson,sidebottom,broad and all of ur overated bowlas. when all our players r playin, pk got da worlds best bowlin line up, thats a fact
It was because New Road had suffered from the dreadful flooding that beset central England at the start of summer...the ground had to be completely relaid
Equal fastsest Twenty20 hundred last year, aged 41 at the time. (and that's equal fastest in the world not just UK). Been the best for Worcester for 24 years, and a really nice bloke
You are right about the 116 but I have the game on DVD and the commentary said that two world records were set in that game. The quickest ton in 20/20 and the highest total. Cameron White only has 1 ton to his name in 20/20 but might have a pro40 or 2 to his name.
What I am trying to say to you is that I think I am wrong about the 141 being in a 20/20 (sorry had a few too many vinos when I sent that one!!). I think it might have been in a pro40. Anyways, if I can find the time I'll look it up. Doesn't change the fact that Hickie is one of the best don't you think?
Ha yes Hick is a legend, just a shame he couldn't do it for England but he has been amazing at county level. But returning to the other point...you are right actually that his 141 was in a T20 game, i think it was off 70 odd balls or something
White has scored 2 T20 hundreds with a highest score of 141 not out. I even think that when he did score the 141 not out Somerset lost that game with Hick scoring a hundred.
Saj mahmood flop?
johnstonl01 6 months ago
mahmood is shit
jatpattat 1 year ago
@jatpattat
how many first class wickets have you got?
collinslfc 1 year ago
@collinslfc me? 987
jatpattat 1 year ago
@jatpattat
I said first class wickets..not Under 11's class wickets *rollseyes*
collinslfc 1 year ago
MASTER Batsmen, Sheer Class !!
steveJ1957 2 years ago 2
pace without accuracy leads straight to the boundary or in this case over it.
Sanath340 2 years ago
Mahmood is in the MCC playing against Durham today, Honestly he is a very over-rated bowler, yes he can bowl quick but can never bowl a delivery in the same spot twice in a row, at times his bowling is just filth.
englandwc06 2 years ago
Most English bowlers bowl alot of Filth these days.
Only during the Ashes 2005 did we see anything special
sonofthedestroyer 2 years ago
How about Eng Vs Pakistan 06. ODI'S Against South Africa in 08
englandwc06 2 years ago
With shot like that he can come back to the England national team
sonofthedestroyer 2 years ago
You do know that he retired at the end of the last season unfortunately
englandwc06 2 years ago
That was a man dealing with a under 15 bowler!
4EVERCHELSEA 3 years ago
damn....razzaq and hick in the death overs...glad i wasent bowling....full deliveries going over your head
KJtheMC 3 years ago
england would be better with english players..
bladenivethan 3 years ago
Yeah, no more Danes in the team!
JasonRadley 3 years ago
Saw this live on Sky. If Hick had been an exrovert he'd have been another Pietersen.
JasonRadley 3 years ago 4
half our populatin r in poverty, so they dont play any sport wahtever, they struggle to feed themslevs.
atleast gt a domestic structure, which when a player performs for a while he will get noticed and picked.
and thas true, pk never been a team. always individual battle. orite man this shit gettin tirin lol. so we got diferent opinions. my point was saj mahmood wudn't get into da pk team, and dad comment by english support fueled me on and shit. orite anyways peace.
khaneveli 3 years ago
ok so akhtar aint disiplined. but he still better than englands fast bowlers, and any england hav produced (bar gough). da steroids wer later found to be accidental btw.
i dont think u hav seen pk play in a while, if ur judgin gul on da series vs england, cuz today hes improved bigstyle, hes a fast-bowler, worlds best at reverse swing, and accurate. vs england he was new, comin of injury.
and again if ur sayin tanvir? who. dats crazy. u aint seen da t20 wrld cup,da ipl and pk's recent odi's.
khaneveli 3 years ago
ok so we have our problems in disipline nd shit.but my point is our quality is better. flintoff was a one series wonder,da ashes which is why langer sed dat.apart from dat he aint bin special.wtf,panesar best finga spinna in da world r u on crak, wut about vettori. i can say broad? who,cuz he aint done shit wit da ball.akhtar and bond r both in da top ten test bowlas,both have been out of test cricket for around a year, so dnt be trustin does rankins.but i admit r.s is deadly with da new ball.
khaneveli 3 years ago
Langer quote: '"Since the 2005 Ashes series, it has been my strong opinion that he is the best fast bowler currently playing international cricket - he must play in England's first XI.'
JasonRadley 3 years ago
shows you how much langer knows about good fast bowlers
super14strauss 3 years ago
Yeah, compared to you that is.And your cricket experience is?
JasonRadley 3 years ago
sorry i thought we was talking about sajid mahmood.
super14strauss 3 years ago
You are forgiven.
JasonRadley 3 years ago
DANISH KANARIA leg spinna, googly, flippa, has all da variations, matchwinna. but poor in odis (like panesar)
1.we have da worlds flatest wickets to bowl on, england get nice helpful one.
2. our young cricketers play wit a tape balls,england hav open nets/clubs
3. we gt no clubs, poor systems for youngstas so God knows how much talent has bin lost due to that. england hav clubs all round da country
yet pk hav da betta bowlin side, and hav produced several legends whereas england hav none.
khaneveli 3 years ago
1. You have twice the population as the UK.
2. Very few English youngsters play cricket at all. Football is the only popular sport. God knows how much talent is lost to fooball.
3. Our domestic structure holds back the England team in order to keep in existence twice as many pointless counties as we need.
4. Pak has loads of talent, but they are always fighting amongst themselves and so never act as a team.
pmackenz 3 years ago 4
Depends if your knowledge of cricket history extends before 1980.
JasonRadley 3 years ago
You want english legends..... here we go.... Botham, Willis, Boycott, Trueman, Laker, Fraser, Malcolm, Flintoff, Gough, Hick (County Wise), Ramprakash (Again County Wise), Caddick etc. etc. Yes maybe a few on the list arent world known but you wouldnt of heard of most of these because of your lack of knowledge of the game and ur utter stupidity.
englandwc06 2 years ago
I am not referring to the old timers like Trueman. I am talking about recent times.
Sometimes England bowl well. Most of the time it is mediocre.
No genuinely and consistently dangerous bowlers.
sonofthedestroyer 2 years ago
I agree with you. Last time England played Pakistan England won 3-0. . Won last series against NZ, WI, Bangladesh
1-0 against India in India and of course being thrashed themselves by the Ozzies 5-0. They play better at home. Though last time they played SA in SA they beat them comprehensively
They are too concerned about Oz though. Bottle in in OZ - it means (too) much to them, everything is "In time for the Ashes".
England should play every test series with that level of importance
treevor921 2 years ago
pakistan
AKTHAR(90-95mph nowadays),swings both ways, reverses old ball,1 of da wrlds best yorker.gets into any side in da world wen fit.
ASIF 80+, extreme accuracy, swings ball both ways, reverses the old ball. wud get into any side in da world
GUL 85mph+, is increasin in pace, swings ball both ways, very affective reverse swing, a wickettaking yorker, young/improvin (BTW HIS TEST AVERAGE BETTA DAN BROAD,ANDASON,FLINTOFF,panesar)
TANVIR 80mph+,swings both ways,hard 2 pick,young.wickettaker
khaneveli 3 years ago
AKTHAR - A steroid-taking drug cheat who attacks his team mates and thinks he is bigger than the Pakistan cricket team.
ASIF - AN excellent bowler. Takes steroids (2007 world cup)
GUL - An average bowler who gave England few problems in 2006.
TANVIR - Who?
pmackenz 3 years ago
england
SIDEBOTTOM 80mph+ swings both ways(with new ball. inaffective with old ball.
ANDERSON 85mph+ swings da new ball, very inconsistant and inacurate.
BROAD he got decent pace, but no swing no seam, depends on his bounce, lets see if he improves
FLINTOFF 88mph+, swings both ways, reverses the old ball, gd yorker, but lacks da true fast bowlers strike rate (wud get in to any side wen fit and firing)
PANESAR wickettaker, decent spinner (especially for englands poor standards of spinners)
khaneveli 3 years ago
SIDEBOTTOM - Deadly with the new ball and defends effectively with the old ball. Ranked in the world's top ten bowlers.
ANDERSON - Inconsistent, but deadly on his day.
BROAD - Bowls at a lively rate from a good height. Learns quickly and swings the ball in the right conditions. Averages 36 at No. 8. FLINTOFF - "The best fast bowler in the world" - Justin Langer. Five test centuries too.
PANESAR - Best finger spinner in the world.
pmackenz 3 years ago
@pmackenz How things improve...and other things don't.
ANDERSON - Still inconsistent, too often obsessed with the short ball, but deadly on his day and dangerous when pitching full and letting it swing.
BROAD - Bowls at a lively rate. Hints of swing and seam with both new and old ball. Needs to improve that attitude
FINN - Promising youngster with raw pace and bounce which will improve
SWANN - Best finger spinner in the world.
And on the video, Mahmood is terrible.
AND...
vicavox 1 year ago
vicavox 1 year ago
@vicavox Well they are in the semi-final of the world cup and england has been sent home by nz hahahahahahahahahahaha stop with cricket please hahahahaha
fcfalik 11 months ago
@vicavox Broad 6*6= 36 Anderson = shit Finn = only good in test as he never will get a chance in odi Swann = Only good because musthaq ahmad trained him otherwise he was nothing so what are talking about
fcfalik 11 months ago
@fcfalik Well that's just the worst assessment I've ever heard. No logic, stats or facts to back up this tripe. To suggest Broad or Anderson rank as "shit" is ignorant at best and biased at worst.
vicavox 11 months ago
@vicavox Well then what are talking about the pakistan bowlers the whole world now that the pakistan bowlers are the best and with durgs you can bowl 160 MPh and why you dont try it then we will see if you can wing the ball and bowl 160 mph and tanvir was the best ipl bowler where are the england bowlers never heared about them just in this world cup what did anderson to save england got smacked around the park against bangladesh so please stop hating pakistan and thier talented bowlers.
fcfalik 11 months ago
@fcfalik This is the point, Pakistani supporters see the cricketing world through green-tinted glasses. England this World Cup have been atrocious but then they haven't stopped playing cricket since November last year while Pakistan barely play two test matches a year. I had heard of Tanvir because I'm a fan of cricket - he played for Rajhastan Royals and was with Shane Watson their best player, so don't try and claim I'm ignorant. The English side were weak this world cup but everyone...
vicavox 11 months ago
@vicavox ...knew that it was a weak English side, suffering with injuries to key players i.e. Pietersen, Broad and that it was a poorly picked side considering you have players like Kieswetter and Hildreth waiting in the wings - but England have never been good at one day cricket. Pakistan have some potentially talented players but they never show it consistently enough - they're good but not as good as you make it out to be. I don't want to get involved in youtube wars - waste of time. Enough.
vicavox 11 months ago
@vicavox Well if you think that england had a weak team this world cup the think again they had the same players who won the ashes. So what are you talking about. And pakistan play 2 test a year but still they are better then England and they are in the semi-finals of the world cup where is england in london or manchester hahaha.
fcfalik 11 months ago
@pmackenz
New Zealand Dan Vettori-Best ODI and sometimes best Test Bowler in the world. Best Spinner and defantely best left arm spinner AND bowler in the world. Not to mention one of the Best captains in the world, all rounders and 6 test centuries. PLUS has had the job of being a selector! Brendon Mccullum- One of the best 20/20 / ODI batsmen in the world, also recently moved up to opening in the test format which since moving there his test average exceeds 80 including 2 double centuries.
MegaKiwi16 1 year ago
honestly your full of rubbish, you dont have a clue about the england line-up do you???
englandwc06 2 years ago
yo englishsupporter u talkin bullshit. akhtar,asif,tanvir,umar gul. are all ten times betta dan any of ur english bowlas. saj mahmood wud struggle gettin into our pakistan A team forget da national side. so stop tryin to say england beta dan pak, with ur bullshit comment. and tbh he deserves to be in da eng team, hes betta dan anderson,sidebottom,broad and all of ur overated bowlas. when all our players r playin, pk got da worlds best bowlin line up, thats a fact
khaneveli 3 years ago
Do you watch much cricket. This seems like nationalistic bullshit based more on blind loyalty that any knowledge about cricket. Akhtar can be effective, but he is a loose cannon who has a disruptive effect on his team. Umar Gul is a great one day bowler, but in real cricket (test matches) he's not very effective. Tanvir is a nobody. I do have respect for Asif though, he's a quality bowler. Shame he's also a drug traffiker.
pmackenz 3 years ago
every 1 has a spliff
its proven he took a drug or had one
that didnt improve his performace
im talking about the bubai arrest
englandsupport 3 years ago
if mahmood went 4 pakistan team
he would of easily got in
and played more regular
englandsupport 3 years ago
yo englishsupporter u talkin bullshit. akhtar,asif,tanvir,umar gul. are all ten times betta dan any of ur english bowlas. saj mahmood wud struggle gettin into our pakistan A team forget da national side. so stop tryin to say england beta dan pak, with ur bullshit comment. and tbh he deserves to be in da eng team, hes betta dan anderson,sidebottom,broad and all of ur overated bowlas. when all our players r playin, pk got da worlds best bowlin line up, thats a fact
khaneveli 3 years ago
I thought Sajid was a Paki?
gerhardblucher 3 years ago
sorry heinrich i thought asmaoh was a ghanian.
buckstrickland2 3 years ago
heinrich!!! lol
gerhardblucher 3 years ago
Your jokin arent you.... at the time when akhtar, asif, gul, ahmed, kaneria, tanvir... he's rubbish compared to these guys
englandwc06 2 years ago
Can anyone tell me why this game was played at Taunton and not New road?
StuartMB68 3 years ago
It was because New Road had suffered from the dreadful flooding that beset central England at the start of summer...the ground had to be completely relaid
Tigrfl 3 years ago
Oh my that's terrible. I've been to New road 3 or 4 times and it's a nice place. Hopefully they will have a full program of cricket this year.
StuartMB68 3 years ago
Equal fastsest Twenty20 hundred last year, aged 41 at the time. (and that's equal fastest in the world not just UK). Been the best for Worcester for 24 years, and a really nice bloke
Iscritty 4 years ago
The fastest 20/20 ton was by Cameron White for Somerset in 2006. He scored 141 not out from a Somerset total of 250 for 3. That's the world record
StuartMB68 4 years ago
Actually thats not true, when Somerset scored 250 for 3 White made 116 not out. The 141 was made in a different game, which I think Somerset lost.
mattb666 3 years ago
You are right about the 116 but I have the game on DVD and the commentary said that two world records were set in that game. The quickest ton in 20/20 and the highest total. Cameron White only has 1 ton to his name in 20/20 but might have a pro40 or 2 to his name.
StuartMB68 3 years ago
what do you mean he's only got one T20 hundred to his name? You said yourself that he made 141 not out, and the 116 not out....
mattb666 3 years ago
What I am trying to say to you is that I think I am wrong about the 141 being in a 20/20 (sorry had a few too many vinos when I sent that one!!). I think it might have been in a pro40. Anyways, if I can find the time I'll look it up. Doesn't change the fact that Hickie is one of the best don't you think?
StuartMB68 3 years ago
Ha yes Hick is a legend, just a shame he couldn't do it for England but he has been amazing at county level. But returning to the other point...you are right actually that his 141 was in a T20 game, i think it was off 70 odd balls or something
mattb666 3 years ago
White has scored 2 T20 hundreds with a highest score of 141 not out. I even think that when he did score the 141 not out Somerset lost that game with Hick scoring a hundred.
ChrisRead7 3 years ago
Graeme Hick, Superstar, how many runs have you scored so far?
dazabwcfc1 4 years ago
Such a super player. A great shame he never fulfilled his talent at test level. He could have been the best in the world.
flymogram 4 years ago
Fuck The Critic, Hick Is A Great Player. Atherton Robbed Him In '95
ExtremeSteve 4 years ago
Agree with you there.
How can Atherton accuse anyone of scoring to slow.
Hick seems like the sort of amn who lacks a bit of confidence and Atherton doing that would of knocked him for 6.
lyndonaf 4 years ago
absoloute quality, hickie worcester legend
djbloomer 4 years ago