Joel Chernoff: Birth Of A Messianic Jew

[ErnestoPonce123]

THE LORD TOLD ME TO TELL ALL HIS CHILDREN.

The Lord said, "Yes Indeed, I am coming soon!"

Jesus is Lord and God! 1 John 5:19-20

Ernesto Ponce

Christian Evangelist

Ken-na Outreach Ministries

Called According to Ephesians 4:11

E-mail: ernestopnc@gmail.com

[deezynar]

If a Jew wants to stop "acting Jewish" after he accepts Jesus, he may. He may also act more Jewish if he wishes, but neither makes a difference for his salvation.

There are Jewish atheists, but Jewish Christians are rejected by their brethren.

You can't trust in Jesus for payment of your sins & not be a Christian, no matter who your parents are or how many prayers you say.

[shirah121]

wow, these comments

[germanisrael1]

Ifucj halla

[kittyhawk8787]

Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

These are the words of Moses Numbers 31

[kittyhawk8787]

You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

there isn't even equal slavery laws in the TORAH!!!!!

[kittyhawk8787]

If you are going to be "Messianic" then I suggest you read the old testament first.

2 Samuel 8:4"David captured a thousand of his chariots, seven thousand charioteers and twenty thousand foot soldiers. He hamstrung all but a hundred of the chariot horses." Hamstung means to cripple so as the animal dies slowly.Joshua 6:They completely destroyed everything in it men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, donkeys everything. bloody old testament

[darkmarkrammstein]

judaism. there is a true faith. i am from the house of David, God has told me this. i was brought up a catholic. now i know.

[chicken3377]

you stupid neo-nazi klan member. the Jews are not children of satan they are God's chosen people.

[fortruthandlove]

The children of Israel are God's chosen people. the tribe of Judah is only one of the 12 tribes.

[rafyraf100]

@chicken3377 they wer until they rejected JESUS!!!!

[kalizme]

This is explained so well and is a great tool to share with non-belivers and Christians. It's exciting to find the 'truth' in the Word of G*d. I have been a Christian and have recently become a Messianic believer and am very excited about my faith.

[crossoverproductions]

Thank you very much for that message. It was very encouraging. We hope our other programs are educational and a blessing to you as well!

G-d bless! :-D

[chicken3377]

I have a question....are Gentiles equal to Jews when it comes to God's eyes? In the Modern time?

[GodHasNOMother]

Yes Chicken3377 for we are all part of the Body of Yeshua. In Yeshua, there is NO MORE...Greek or Jew, Slave or Freeman. We are all justified before G-d by virtue of our Faith in Yeshua...

G-d bless you and Shalom from Israel.

[jam5bryce]

Thank you for sharing. I read your statement about coming a Messianic believer. I too am a gentile Christian, who has embraced the Torah and true teachings of Yeshua our Saviour. My hearts desire was to know Adonai, so I sought more Bible and historical studies through MBI-Yeshiva. This guidance and knowledge helped me realize that today's church does not accept all the Torah and replaced it with many pagan customs and ideas. Many of us are now returning to Torah!

[mitrageshet]

IF there is a Satan who do you think he would side with?Those who died because of Yeshua for 2,000 years or those who killed Yeshua's brethren?The only explanation for the irrational hatred of Jews is a spiritual one since most Jews are good human beings and have helped humanity in so many ways - Jonas Salk, Sabin, numerous other doctors and medical researchers.G-d made promises to us and the evil one(s) want to see G-d break those promises.He will not.The people of Israel lives!

[GodHasNOMother]

Satan would always side with sin and rebellion against G-d, because it's the ONE thing that he knows will destroy humankind which G-d loves. Satan loves pain suffering and death, and to him it really doesn't matter WHO gets killed, as long as there is destruction. He is the Destroyer. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, so being good alone doesn't cut it. Yeshua is THE ONLY WAY, ONLY TRUTH, and ONLY LIFE...and you won't get in by virtue of your own 'goodness' but through Him...

[GodHasNOMother]

It was G-d who made the walls of Jericho Tumble...not the goodness of the Israelites... It is G-d who provides the "bridge over troubled waters"... not Simon and Garfunkel. And His name is Yeshua...the ONLY bridge back to the Almighty! G-d bless you and Shalom from Israel.

[jfigue22]

lets face it jesus god jehova is not dumb. he does not judge people by what they are but who they are from under neath.You yourself know that there is a father of truth.

[jfigue22]

those who believe in the father believe in the son.for jesus said if you have seen the father you've seen the son .jehova and yeshua are both the same they always were. so yes you will go to heaven if you obey the torah. lets remember abraham and the others followed the god christians worship

[crazytomcat]

He used the term 'God' which is not true, the true name of the creator is Yahuah.

[fortruthandlove]

Yes my friend. TRUTH.

[Myspacegenesissix]

I too would be categorized as a "messianic" believer however I'm not of Judah descent. I got sick of all the paganims in speech, ritual, and celebration, that came into western christanity. I also learned the difference between ceremonial laws and the 10 commandments laws - so I now keep the sabbath as well. It's a real movement that mainstream does not know about... people of the lost tribes are waking up. Prophecy is happening.

[anitaeducation]

PSALM 22,16-"Dogs have surrounded me; a band of evil man has encircled me,

THEY HAVE PIERCED MY HANDS AND MY FEET.

17.I can count all my bones; people stare and gloat over me.

18.THEY DIVIDE MY CLOTHES AMONG THEMSELVES AND GAMBLE FOR MY ROBE."

[anitaeducation]

PSALM 22,16-"Dogs have surrounded me; a band of evil man has encircled me,

THEY HAVE PIERCED MY HANDS AND MY FEET.

17.I can count all my bones; people stare and gloat over me.

18.THEY DIVIDE MY CLOTHES AMONG THEMSELVES AND GAMBLE FOR MY ROBE."

[shnaz65]

Re. Isaiah 53: How do you see this is Jesus? Many Jews have suffered. Many Jews have died. So he suffered, what does that prove? 6,000,000 Jews were killed, maybe Chapter 53 the "servant" is Israel?

Secondly, look at Isaiah 41:8. The text CLEARLY names the "servant":

"But you, O Israel, My servant, Jacob, you whom I have chosen, offspring of Abraham who loved Me.....(vs 9) I shall say 'You are My servant' - I have chosen you and not rejected you."

[shnaz65]

Messianic stuff has NEVER convinced a frum from birth Jew. That means a Jew who was raised religious, kept shabbat, kept kosher, learned Torah, (went to Yeshivah) and learned Tanach from the original Hebrew. Why? B/c the "proof" is EASILY refuted IF you read the CORRECT translation, in CONTEXT and read the verses preceading and the verses following the "proof".

Give me any "proof" and I can disprove it in a second. Regarding Isaiah 53 See Isaiah 41:8, 44 proves "servant" = Israel

[kiwidulcie]

You speak pretty confident for someone who has obviously not met a frum Jew who has been convinced...but I have known of quite a few.

[bigtimestud]

do jewish people believe that jesus never came and the he ISnt the messiah?? just wondering im not very informed..

[mitrageshet]

Most Jews believe that there was a man named Yeshua who lived during the time when Rome ruled Judea and the northern part of Israel. We do not believe that he was the promised messiah, nor do we believe that he was the son of G-d, anymore than any human being is the son or daughter of G-d.He was human, not divine.We believe that Saul of Tarsus (Paul) who wrote much of the New Testament, created what has come to be known as Christianity.We believe that Yeshua lived and died an observant Jew.

[wtfneways]

Then who was the lamb slain from the foundation of the world? Whose hand led Moses? If there was never any likeness how was there a hand? Adam left Eden because he hearkened to the voice. We are created in the image of...? See how Christians are multiplied! Come on. Prove me wrong, ask for understanding and seek salvation. Jesus is not dead, but IS come in the flesh. Do you even know who you worship?

[mitrageshet]

Most Jews believe that there was a man named Yeshua who lived during the time when Rome ruled Judea and the northern part of Israel. We do not believe that he was the promised messiah, nor do we believe that he was the son of G-d, anymore than any human being is the son or daughter of G-d.He was human, not divine.We believe that Saul of Tarsus (Paul) who wrote much of the New Testament, created what has come to be known as Christianity.We believe that Yeshua lived and died an observant Jew.

[sistermitzi]

I have a challenge for you then if you're up to it. Get some paper then read the 1st two chapters of the book of Numbers in the Torah. Now draw on paper the description of what you read. Be careful & draw it according to the description. Do you see anything remarkable & associated with the accounts of Jesus of Nazareth? Check out 'DISCOVERING THE JEWISH JESUS' Rabbi Kirt Schneider if you're now curious.

[alfteck]

"Messi....anic.

As in messy Dipers

[MrPaulNguyen]

The only thing that differentiate Judaism and Christianity is the belief in Jesus Christ being the Messiah. If you believe it, you are a Christian. If you don't, you ae Jewish. So... Messianic Jew is actually a branch of Christianity that practices Judaism. So, "Messianic Jews" are not Jews, they are Christians. This may be a bad example, but here we go... It's like saying I'm a strait bisexual. Makes no sense. Exactly!!!

[crossoverproductions]

Ask yourself this...If Jesus is Jewish, then how are Jewish followers of this Jewish individual, who practiced/observed all Jewish celebrations, no longer Jewish? Does the belief of a Jew in another Jew make one less Jewish? Could it be that through the centuries leaders like Constantine and others mixed the Jewishness of Jesus with other pagan images and the real jewish identity was lost/skewed through the centuries so that the Jewish community no longer recognizes the Jewishness of Jesus?

[realworld2050]

Assuming the direct followers of Jesus(witnesses of his life)believed he was and is the messiah(Jews and Gentiles)they were Christians.

I do think the New Testament can be skewed just as The Old. It would be irresponsible to think otherwise.

I feel all should be content in there faith and let God judge. He created all he will judge all.

[bigtimestud]

damn yall jews missed the boat.. jesus came and he IS the messiah get over it.

[realworld2050]

Excuse you. I actually did not say he wasn't. I was responding to the comment before mine. I was saying that followers of Jesus believed he was or is the messiah were Christians (my beliefs were not at question and the folks from his day are not here anymore.)regardless of what they were prior to him. Also I am not Jewish, an that is a irrelevant comment based on the discussion. Understand the content of a discussion when you make a public comment.

[dud3man6969]

That's true. What has become traditional Christianity was tainted by Roman paganism over 1500 years ago. Messianic Judaism is what Christianity was supposed to look like.

[deezynar]

@ghostwolf66

If you acknowledge that a Jew who follows messiah Jesus has the truth, what is so terrible about celebrating the messiahs birth & his resurrection? His death paid for our sins, & his rising from the dead proved his victory. Neither would have been possible if he hadn't been born.

[ghostwolf66]

@deezynar Christmas and Easter are pagan.Second, Jesus did not arise on Sunday.He was already risen before the first day of the week.Jesus arose on a late Saturday afternoon/evening before sunset.When Mar had come to the tomb right at daybreak on the first day of the week, Sunday, Jesus was already risen.Sunday keeping Christianity is pagan.God has commanded us to keep the sabbath and the holy days (Lev 23).We are not to use pagan customs to worship God with.

[deezynar]

@ghostwolf66

The bible doesn't say when Jesus was born, so the early Christians decided to honor his birth on a date that had been a pagan holiday. The early Christians were honoring Jesus, not the pagan god so there is nothing pagan about Christmas.

As for Easter, I'm not buying your argument.

[ghostwolf66]

@deezynar Anyone can do research and see that Christmas and Easter are pagan. It is in any encyclopedia, the internet, history books. God commands us not to worship him with pagan customs. God has given us the sabbath and His holy days (Lev 23) to worship Him with. It is the sabbath and the Feast of Tabernacles that will be kept during the millennium when Christ is reigning on earth. It will NOT be Sunday, Christmas or Easter.

[deezynar]

@ghostwolf66

As I told you before, I have done research on this and I gave you a valid explanaition. YOU have a hang up about this. On the other hand, I don't have a problem with it and millions of other Christians don't either. Therefore, I am at liberty on this and you are not. Paul addresses this kind of thing when he talked about eating meat that had been sacrificed to idols. Christians are not under the law, so Leviticus doesn't apply to me, or you either if you trust Jesus.

[ghostwolf66]

@deezynar And you are following and practicing paganism. I'm not the one with hangups.God commands the sabbath and the holy days (lev 23) to be kept, NOT pagan celebrations.It is the sabbath and the Feast of Tabernacles that will be kept during the millennium reign of Christ here on earth.NOT Sunday, Christmas and Easter.The RCC admits in their own papers that they are the one who changed God's sabbath to Sunday and had no authority to do so.Sunday keeping Christianity is paganism.

[ghostwolf66]

@deezynar You follow the false teachings of the false RCC and her protestant daughters mentioned in the book of revelation.Christmas, Easter, Halloween, St Valentine's Day, St Patrick's Day, and more, are all pagan.God commands that we do NOT worship Him with pagan customs.God takes this so serious that He sent both the houses of Judah and Israel into slavery over these things.It is the Sabbath and the Feast of Tabernacles that will be kept during the millennium,NOT Sunday,Christmas or Easter.

[deezynar]

@ghostwolf66

Let me run this by you one more time, this is very important. Paul says that believers in Jesus are allowed to support a practicing pagan by giving him money in exchange for a piece of meat that the pagan sacrificed to honor his pagan god.  Then we are allowed to take that meat home and eat it and honor the one true God by it.

It's obvious that you haven't digested Paul's repeated admonitions that those who trust in Messiah are not under any law but the law of grace.

[ghostwolf66]

@deezynar You go right ahead and swallow the lies of the RCC and protestant churches hook, line and sinker.but you WILL KEEP the 7th day Sabbath and the Feast of Tabernacles in the millennium.It will be God's laws that will be enforced and kept, NOT pagan customs that the Sunday keeping Christian churches keep.

[ghostwolf66]

@deezynar Sin IS the transgression of the law.God's law still stands and will be enforced when the Messiah is reigning here on earth during the millennium.You WILL keep the sabbath and the Feast of Tabernacles during the millennium.Those who refuse will be punished by God.

[deezynar]

@ghostwolf66

Many things about the millenium are left unexplained. One thing is very clear however, all who are believers in Messiah Jesus in this dispensation will no longer be mortal or have a sin nature then. The fulfillment of our hope will have come. What "law" God will hold the mortal humans to during the millenium has no power over me in this current dispensation.

Please study how believers in Jesus are free from the law. If we are not, Jesus died for nothing.

[ghostwolf66]

@deezynar God's law still stands.Don't deceive yourself.Sin IS the transgression of the law.God's sabbath has NEVER been abolished.Scripture is clear-the sabbath and the FOT will be kept during the millennium by ALL.If you do NOT obey God's law now,you will not be a spirit being in the millennium.You will be resurrected a human again and be taught God's laws during the millennium without satan's influence and the false teachings that Sunday keeping Christianity teaches.

[ghostwolf66]

@deezynar The Messiah died to redeem Israel, all 12 tribes.It is in the NT.Why did Israel have to be redeemed? Because they BROKE God's laws.The Messiah did not come to redeem Israel only so they could continue to break God's laws.The New Covenant is made ONLY with the houses of Israel and Judah-Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8.God's law still stands.God's law will be written on their hearts and in their minds.

[deezynar]

@ghostwolf66

Jesus died to save all who God fore ordained from all tribes and nations.

God has given more than one law for men to live by over the ages. The first was the Adamic, then the Noahic, then he made a covenant w/ Abraham, then came the Mosaic law, and now the law of grace. Which of these are you calling God's law?

[ghostwolf66]

@deezynar The NT specifically says that Jesus came to redeem Israel.Both Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8 say that the New Covenant is to be made ONLY with Israel and Judah.No one else.God's law is the law that was given to the 12 tribes ta Mt Sinai, the same law that is to be written on the hearts and in the minds.Just because we have grace does not exempt us from obeying God's laws.You deceive yourself if you believe that deception.The lies and deceptions taught by the Sunday churches are deep.

[deezynar]

@ghostwolf66

So a gentile has no chance at salvation in your interpetation?

[ghostwolf66]

@deezynar Non Israelite gentiles will be called later after Christ returns.Right now God is only dealing with Israel, all 12 tribes.And while the New Covenant is made only with Judah and Israel, non Israelite gentiles will get to share in the blessings with Israel and Judah.There will be one law, God's law, for all.God is using the Israelites to bring salvation to all the world.Zechariah 8:22-23.No one will be left out.

[ghostwolf66]

@deezynar .Constantine is the one who started Sunday keeping Christianity.Until then the church was all Jewish and those of the 10 tribes.Constantine was a pagan and he brought in pagan customs and tossed out God's sabbath and holy days.This was the beginning of the false Sunday keeping pagan Christianity church.The true church is made up of Jews and those of the 10 tribes who obey God and keep God's sabbath and holy days.

[ghostwolf66]

@deezynar .Constantine is the one who started Sunday keeping Christianity.Until then the church was all Jewish and those of the 10 tribes.Constantine was a pagan and he brought in pagan customs and tossed out God's sabbath and holy days.This was the begiining of the false Sunday keeping pagan Christianity church.The true church is made up of Jews and those of the 10 tribes who obey God and keep God's sabbath and holy days.

[sipahi1453]

O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. (MAIDE-51)

[chipperss]

would appreciate where it says the NT as in the Christian bible is foretold in the Hebrew scriptures. Where also are the prophecies about Yeshua in the Hebrew scriptures? Where does it say we need a human sacrifice for our sins? Maybe I am missing something.

[onegreeneye]

I FLAT-LINED, DIED & met JESUS CHRIST!!!:)

HE IS AMAAAZING!!!! YESS HE IS REAL< RISEN< TRUTH< LIFE GIVER< AMAZZZING!!!

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[GodForum]

If you were a Muslim you would have seen Mohammed ... therefore it was only in your mind.

[bsparris]

Wonderful video! There are also some of us gentiles, Christians, who are seeking to find the beginnings of our faith, the Jewish roots, perhaps what Christianity was meant to be, as the first believers were Jews, Yahshua came first for the Jews, then for the gentiles. Praise YHWH, praise Yahshua, He lives, He reigns, the living God of Israel is still in control, every knee will bow, every tongue will confess, that He is Lord!

[wolverine02007]

The 1st Century (hebraic) Nazarene Judism = 1st Century Church.

The 4th century Christianity = Romanized + Paganized hybrid Judism with Jewish elements removed.

The modern Christianity tht exist traces itself from the 4th century Romanised and Paganised hybrid Christianity...

Messianic Judism --> Adding Judism elements to Christianity...

Nazarene Judism --> Adding New Testament truths to Phariseeism...

[odessamike]

Phonies.

[timcopeland1]

does anyone know what the program at a Messianic Jewish wedding i recently attended would spell God "G-D" and Lord "L-rd"?

[crezco]

Hi, Jews are not allowed to speak the name of God and out of reverance spell Him G-d, the same way they cannot mention Yahweh and have 4 consonants YHWH. We have the Anglosized version by adding two vowels.

[timcopeland1]

But here they were saying "Yeshuha" constantly, and "Lord" in all the speeches.

[wolverine02007]

How do you really know what YHWH sounds like?

What does Elohim say?

[ominuka]

True, no one can ever know the name of God, he is much too complex and I've heard that someone would die if they really uttered his actual name. How powerful God is.

[GodForum]

Doesn't that make Jehovah Witnesses look so silly ?

[Naej27]

Put in your search engine BRIT AM,also YAIR DAVIDIY.Interesting reading.

[Naej27]

I believe it was in the begining of the Bible,of The New Testament.

[Naej27]

I read in the somewhere in the New Testament, the LAW was not to be done away with.

[Xidious76]

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill."

The Law and the Prophets that Jesus was speaking of was what is now called the Old Testament. We, as Christians are no longer under the laws of the Old Testament. We are saved by God's grace, through faith in Jesus Christ. With that being said there is nothing wrong with observing the sabbath or refraining from eating pork. Galatians 3:10-13 explain this well.

[Xidious76]

I am very glad to see the growing rate of Messianic Jews. It is in fact a sign that the Lord is returning soon. When speaking to the Jewish people He said. "You will not see Me again until you say blessed is He who comes in the name of the YHWH."

[deborahbetty58]

Thank you for sharing the Light of Life Which is Yahoshua. We are all children of the Almighty YHWH Creator and should therefore connect in the Spirit of forgiveness. Welcome back elder brother, the olivetree from which grew the branch to all bear fruits of righteousness, truth and joy. Shalom

[12JIL23]

I do agree that there is trouble coming, but not necessarily a "Halocoust". I would hope we Christians would finally cry out and work to prevent that but the new worldwide surge of anti-semitism gives me a sick feeling. We must cry out to Jesus to protect His people. He wept over Jerusalem when He was on earth, let us not give Him cause to weep again. I urge you Read the O.T. as well as N.T. proving Israel was given to Jews By God.

Even Christians/Muslims have no claim to it.

Love In Him

[ridamnow]

it was due to the reform movement that there was a holocaust.this lot will be to blame for the next one GOD forbid!

[12JIL23]

Which reform movement are you referring to......the Protestant Reform Movement started by Martin Luther or the Reform Movement within Judaism (i.e. Reform, conservative, etc.)?

[12JIL23]

I've never found sarcasm the basis for reasonable dialogue and I also have never found age to be a factor in determining wisdom. I wish you the Peace of Jesus.

[onthemoney12]

First, I said in a previous post that I'm too busy to teach you. Second, if you're serious about judaism, stop quoting J: see reasons I've mentioned. Third, the 'Mesorah' is a fundamental concept in judaism. It refers to transmission of the oral law (Talmud and Kabbalah) from Moses to the Judges to the Prophets to the Talmudic sages and so on, till present day. So 'human hands DO NOT defile'.

[ridamnow]

these people are sick

[onthemoney12]

Speak for yourself. This is a democratic country. Where do you come from?

[ridamnow]

are you a j 4 j or a j 4 G?

i mean make up your bloody mind and stop your bullshit!

[12JIL23]

I thought this website was to exchange views and truth but all I see is animosity and vulgarity ("bullshit??"). Aren't these against the rules of Crossoverand UTube?

[ridamnow]

call this truth??!!

wake up & smell the coffee

[ridamnow]

oh and if youre realy 67 years old,dont bother!!

[onthemoney12]

As I mentioned in my prior (original) text messages, if you practice Christianity and Judaism, you're not considered a Jew (in Judaism). Christianity would definately consider you a Christian. Part of the reason is that worshipping other g-d's is blasphemy in Judaism and is a MAJOR sin You're clearly misinformed. 'Mix and Match' works well in a Chinese menu but NOT in Judaism.

[bargainmom]

I have a question. MUST the Temple be rebuilt before Moshiach (in my view, Yeshua) can return? If so, let's roll up our sleeves and very gently get about rebuilding, brothers and sisters!

[onthemoney12]

Rebuilding the temple is just one component of the Religious Jewish Messiah's return (not J's). (By the way, since when is 'J' supposed to 'return'???) The Messiah has to be a true descendant of the house of David. Preceded by Elijah the Prophet who will perform great miracles. There are other conditions. If the Temple is rebuilt before that, it would be irrelevent to the Messiah's return and will not be perpetually sustainable.

[bargainmom]

Yes, but if Elijah already came in the Tanach, why does it have to be linear? Why can't Elijah come and then Yeshua?

[onthemoney12]

You're clearly misinterpreting Judaism. 'J' does not 'return' in Christianity or Judaism. Also Judaism acknowledges and respects (unlike the other singular major Western religions) the singular religions that believe in G-d. Elijah needs to herald the messiah who's the 'son of david'. His prior mission in the prophets does not address this. You need to properly research Judaism first and you will see the difference. You need to get solid knowledge before arriving at conclusions.

[bargainmom]

Don't tell me how to seek Truth, brother. I will do this as I can...step by step, baby steps. I am not going to go study hard core Jewish Torah until I have small bits of knowledge to help fuel me, like a train I need more. I'm FAR from an evangelist, you should know that in my youth I considered converting to both Islam AND Buddhism! So, don't try to play guess who with me, just teach if you have a mouth, teach. What do you mean Jehovah does not return?

[bargainmom]

What do you mean? "YHWH" shall return when He is ready. I already believe that Yeshua was from the House of David.

[onthemoney12]

I think you're an evangalist who's just having a little fun. Please read all my original posts to see how to get accurate info on Judaism. After you have properly studied the Jewish scriptures, laws and books, I will be happy to respond to your questions. Please don't e-mail me until then. Good luck (if you're serious).

[bargainmom]

I'm not emailing you, I'm responding to your comments at a public forum. If you have such knowledge and truth, speak on it. If not, go back from under the rock from whence you crawled...IF you are a trickster, Satan, the Adversary.

[orplistic]

Your not Jewish.

Jewsforjudaism dot org

[theguyfromaustralia]

Rabbinic Judaism is so easily refuted.

[12JIL23]

As a former Catholic, I totally agree. I now attend a "Hebrew" Messianic Church. I wish more Christians were aware of their Hebrew roots. However, the term "Christian" was first used for followers of Yeshua in Antioch and it stuck.

Love in Yeshua Who First loved us.

[bargainmom]

Right on. The Catholic Church is like sheep who have lost their way. Don't follow them because they are not keeping to the Word.

[Lechemanddahm]

I am a born again Jewish believer. Yah Veh is the NAME of My Elohim and Yah Shua is My Savior and Melech. I am NOT a "Christian." Yah Veh knows me from before the foundation of the world! For 10 years, I participated in greater Christianity. Then, Yah Veh revealed to me that I am Jewish and I received Yah Shua as Savior.

[12JIL23]

I, as a Christian, agree with you. As the Apostle Paul said in Romans, we (Christians) are grafted onto the root, not the root grafted again into the vine. Our Christian roots are "Hebraeic". I prefer the term "completed Jews". Hope that is not offensive.

Shalom in Yeshua

[theguyfromaustralia]

The early followers of Yeshua were known (according to Josephus) were the tribe of 'Christians' I'm Christian. Mainstream Christianity is really bad. As long as Yeshua is your Lord and Saviour and you worship the God of Israel and are born again then God bless you :)

[JaredEricFusia]

if you're not then God damn you to hell!! right?

[theguyfromaustralia]

If Yeshua isn't your Lord and saviour then yes, you're still under the law.

[JaredEricFusia]

all Jews are under the law. it's our whole means of existing. King David called the Torah a delight, christians call it a ''curse'', a ''yoke of slavery''. christians aren't very fond of G-d's comandments. that's fine, you oly need to follow the seven noahide laws in Bereshit

[ninni711]

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[ninni711]

As a result of omitting important truths such as these, the Gospel became more and more alien to the people to whom Yeshua first came. It is our task now to preach the pure Gospel of truth that the New Testament presents and understand that Yeshua is a Jew, that He came first to the people of Israel, the Gospel is to the Jew first and His disciples were all Jews.

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go and see what GOD is doing and what you can do for GOD

[Luso515PorTuoGraal]

Fist Covenant of GOD´s Wisdom: The Law for discipline the People, yhe first Step in Wisdom for People´s Knowledge.

New Covenant: The Love with the Law. Our LOVE For YHWH ELOHIM in unity to YHWH ELOHIM by the Messiah, the LOVE of GOD. A New Ascention in knoledge: the Union of the Right-Law ant the True Knoledge of this law - The Knoledge with love - the Intuitive Inteligent Light of the HOLY SPIRIT of YHWH in all us.

[onthemoney12]

To: Tsivi. part 2. Your comment about the 'new' books and laws that were 'heaped' on Jews and that the Mishnah and Gemara are 'man made' books.

As you surely know, the 'mesorah', which contains Jewish law and customs and life style, was passed from g-d to Moses. It was passed down through all the generations till today. This info was written down in the Mishnah and Talmud because Jews were FORGETTING the laws and the Rabbis urgently needed to record them. No new laws were created!

[onthemoney12]

To: Tsivi. Hi. Your conclusions about some of the major Jewish beliefs and law are incredulous. Regarding your statement 'The end of the Mosaic covenant came with the worldwide dispersion of the Jews'. In fact there is a recurrent theme in the Old Testament and the Prophets that Jews were exiled to atone for their sins but are still considered the children of g-d and will return to the third temple when the Jewish Messiah comes. continued

[onthemoney12]

To: NaturalBuilding. Israel gives you an infrastructure, jobs and offers independence. You attack it's civilians, practice terrorism, deny their right to exist and say they should all be killed. Luckily that country is Israel. Any other nation would have not been so patient. If you tried this with say France, Germany, Italy, Greece, Britian, Turkey or Iran, they would have kicked you out or much, much worse. Get my meaning? Israel is way too stupid to put up with you!

[Luso515PorTuoGraal]

Age of the FATHER: Aries- Abraham period; Moses period; AGE of the SON: Piscis - JESUS CHRIST; AGE of the HOLY SPIRIT -RUAH: Return of JESUS with HOLY SPIRIT, maybe AQUARIUS - Christian and Jews and all World; make sense.

Look the wisdom of this Jew Christian Yong Man in Youtube: "Proving Jesus Christ is the Jewish Messiah"

[onthemoney12]

The person interviewed in the video is exactly the type the Messianics love to recruit. Someone who quite doesn't fit into their religion and is technically ignorant of judaism and willing to take any leap of faith. They get sucked into something that is neither Jewish nor Christian. Practicing it is considered idolatry and blasphemy in Judaism. If you're a Jew, g-d will hold you accountable and punishable for all your sins, regardless which religious hat you wear!

[Luso515PorTuoGraal]

The Prophecies of King David -Psalm 22, the Crucefixion, 110 and others, "In the Right of GOD"; Isaiah "GOD With us", Miqueias, Oseiah and other Prophets, are Clarely and they give to us detailed information and Proofs about the Messiah JESUS. The death for our sins; Reised from the deads - the Ressurection; the Rejection of Jews, the law of the Moises to all Gentils in all world, to the end of the Earth.

[bargainmom]

Yes. How will YOU 'earn' your way to be with Adonai, my brother? Do you keep PERFECT KOSHER at all times? Do you dare to say you can be clean in the eyes of Adonai?

[onthemoney12]

Good quesion. If one sins unintentionally, they are not held liable as is stated in the Torah and Talmud. As long as you do your best, no problem. The model of the Torah is to live harmoniously with it as it says "and you shall live in it". This means 'life' and not the reverse. If you seriously study Judaism, it's true beauty will emerge to you. (I don't know how you arrived at the ignorant conclusions you posted).

[bargainmom]

I'm not ignorant. I'm a Seeker of Truth. Not that it's any of your business, but my plan is to FULLY search Messianic Judaism and see for myself if all questions can be answered to my full satisfaction. If not, then I will go about the process of fully searching Judaism and if it does fulfill all my questions I will then convert to probably Orthodox Judaism since that seems the truest branch (Hasidim).

[bargainmom]

Wait a sec. So, if JEWS commit sins, willingly or unwillingly, they are just forgiven via Bloodline? What if a practicing Jew, who is JUST a human, makes a mistake and deliberately gives in to sin such as hating his brother? Then what? Is he forgiven, without any effort? What sacrifice might he make? I say ignorance of the law is no excuse, and most courts would agree. I read ONLY Torah and not Talmud, which is human-made and therefore CORRUPT.

[onthemoney12]

Anyone can become a Jew if they convert to Judaism, same as for many other religions. If you're not Jewish, you're only held accountable for the seven noahide laws. So there is no comparison between Jew and Non-Jew. The Torah is clearly recognized as the basis and truth of and by the major Western Religions. The Talmud is part of the oral tradion that was recorded & passed from G-d to Moses to present day. The laws are the same now as then without. The Talmud just made them clearer.

[bargainmom]

Well what are the seven Noahide laws? And to my understanding, Talmud spreads hatred of non-jews so therefore it's clearly EVIL.

[onthemoney12]

The 7 N laws are: Prohibitions: idolatry, blasphemy, murder, theft, sexual immorality, eating the limb of a living animal and to establish courts of justice . You ignored my prior post in which I stated that Judaism (which includes Talmud) respects the major g-d loving religions. As with the other western religions, Judaism has a problem with idol worshippers. I can't give u a Jewish education. Contact an orthodox rabbi or the Lubavitch organization for further guidance.

[bargainmom]

Oh, so when a person seeks more information, your faith is so weak or shaky you cannot give more? I'm weak and shaky, and ready to admit it! I'm a person seeking Truth and Seeking God. And Yeshua said "Blessed are those who thirst and hunger for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied!" I will talk to a real Rabbi but not one who holds to Talmud since CANNOT YOU SEE that human hands defile?!!!

[onthemoney12]

If you're want Judaism, stop quoting 'J' (see my other posts). Moses taught the oral law (the Talmud) that he received from g-d, to Joshua, who passed it to the Judges. They passed it to the earlier prophets who then passed it to the later prophets, then to the Talmudic rabbis. When written down by the talmudic rabbi's it was still the word of G-d to Moses. Which Jews study today. It's known as the 'mesorah' or 'transmission'. So human hands did not 'defile', as you state.

[yeshuathemessiah]

may YOU come quickly

[bargainmom]

The Great I AM shall return, soon! Keep watch! For He is coming like a Thief in the Night! Keep watch!

[Tsivi]

The message of the Jewish Gospel of Yeshua the Messiah is that God wants a personal relationship with all who will come to Him by Faith.

Abraham came to God by Faith, not by the Law.

The Law was to show Gods Holy Righteousness, It was not an eturnal covenant. The end of the Mosaic covenant came with the worldwide dispersion of the Jews Deuteronomy28:63-68 the final chastizement of the Law Leviticus 26:32-46 Israel has to confess Her iniquity Isaiah 53

[Tsivi]

The Sophrim, Tanaim, Amoraim implemented a whole new set of laws (over 1000 concerning breaking the sabbath alone!)This is seen in Luke6:1-11 The Messiah said to the Pharisees that they heap rules onto the people that they themselves cannot keep Matthew 23.

[Tsivi]

The Mishna, Gamara, Talmud are manmade books, commentaries of new rules the Sophrim, Tanaim, Amoraim, made up.

History: Ezra recognized that the reason why the Jews had been taken out of the Land is because the transgressed the Law- Ezra set out to explain the Law so the people would not transgress it again.

His generation started out ok, but generations after that began to implement new Laws-

[Tsivi]

The 144,000 is from the 12 Tribes of Israel Rev7:4-8 and Rev 14:1-5 They are Jewish Believers who will preach the Gospel to the ends of the earth- The Jews will be the ones to preach the Gospel unto the ends of the earth Revelation 7:9-17 there will be such a huge multitude of people(that no one can count) coming to faith in the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob through the Messiah~ The Jewish people will fulfill their calling in taking the Gospel to the ends of the earth for all people to hear.

[HOWARDCOSELLISTHEMAN]

Long live Messiah Yeshua!

[PaladinOfJesus]

Okay everyone,

It is time to realize Messianic Judaism is the begining of the fullfullment of:

Revelation, Chapter 7

[sorso08]

Jewish TALMUD Text:

&quot;All gentile children are animals&quot; -Yebamoth 98a

&quot;If a man commits sodomy w/ a boy less than 9 both are guilty of sodomy&quot; Sanhedrin 54b, 55a, p.371

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may violate a 3 year old girl

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child if the child is less than 9.

Kethuboth 11b. &quot;When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing.&quot;

Soferim 15, #10 &quot;The best of the gentiles should All be killed&quot;

[theguyfromaustralia]

Talmud is a disgrace, it has misinterpreted the scriptures. YHVH would NEVER condone the Talmud.

[sorso08]

thank you and may God bless you. ALWAYS tell the truth, dont let the jewish media brainwash you, the talmud IS a disgrace.

[ricoco750]

stop arguing.. pray for Jerusalem!

[theguyfromaustralia]

Thank you for posting. To all Christians out there, stop persecuting Jews for their unbelief. They are still Gods people and still will prosper as predicted in the Old Testament! Remember Jesus was a Jew.

[ricoco750]

yes! good stuff man! God bless you.

[PaladinOfJesus]

Not all "Christians" persecute the Jews. Infact if they do they moving against their own scripture. Revelation Chapter 7 speaks of 144,000 Jews that bring people to Jesus Christ. This means Jews play a very key role.

[theguyfromaustralia]

Theologically speaking the 144000 are a representation of those who are in Christ. It's not a literal 144000 thousand Messianic Jews. You'll have to look into it deeper. OK?

[Jeaniecoco]

Did you know the people in the church have Hebrew Roots...and don't even know it? If you study Numbers it talks about the Twelve Tribes of Israel. The Lost Tribes of Israel are not lost...they are in our churches. We are Israelites but the Church doesn't want you to know because they would lose their Flock. In other words..they don't tell us the truth.

[agustintadeo]

it's one of the hardest message to understand from the bible... i have been reading my bible, 3 different version and there are some kind of support but there is not clear is like a foggy day...i think than that could be true but this mystery will be reveal by YHWH Elohim in the millennium.

[Jeaniecoco]

How can you hate them when you don't know anything about the Messianic Jews. Many are leaving the churches to become Messianic Jews. How can you hate? Are you a Christian?

[theguyfromaustralia]

as long as they are not Mormons or JW's I personally don't see a prob with Messianic Judaism. Im still a Christian, but not mainstream, Im going to start celbrating Jewish Holidays.

[geddie212]

me too :), Christmass and easter are pagan holidays.

[bargainmom]

Very good, Guy from Oz--Christmas and Easter are PAGAN and they are NOT what we Christ-followers should do!

[oallos]

You hate them?

Why? How have they harmed you?

[Smann54]

i hate these kind of people, it's weird, they're jewish, they're blessed, but they throw it all away. i don't like the term "messianic Jew", it underminds the Jews in a huge way, it's sickening.

[geddie212]

it is also sickening to undermine the saviour of Israel, which you did

[jvlle06]

Hi Rozalie,

I dont know if you yourself are a christian, or if you work with any christians, but what i would like to know if you or they celebrate the pagan holiday "Christmas"?

[gwhite79]

Christians celebrate the mystery of the Incarnation - that the word was made flesh and dwelt among us. This is not a pagan holiday. Christ's mass is a christian holiday that supplanted pagan rituals as part of the envagelisation of the western world.