@TJace50 yeah let give back all the land according to history, america should give back the west coast to mexican, they took it couple hundred years ago.
This is f*cking biased.. and my english teacher showd us a shortened version of this vid.. and i felt sooooo offended.. he shouldnt show us stuff like this.. =___=
The "wall of hate" has stopped hundreds of suicidebombers and terrorists to murder hundreds of innocent israelis. I would say that it is "the wall of love".. But i don´t like the illegal settlements built on palestine territory. i see them as unnecessary provocations..
This wall saves lives every day! its meant to stop palestinian terrorists to enter israel, only after the wall was built the bus/terror attacks stopped (now only gaza fires rockets)
The wall is very very effective and keeping terrorism out - it is complete lie that it "traps" palestinians with ought water&electricity simply because Israel (as always) still supplies water&electricity to Palestine,besides Jordan is 75% of palestine not Israel!
This video is pathetic. What a lame effort, and an embarassment for the biggest and most hopeless loosers in all the world. As if more shame will make things better.
Palistinians never miss an oportunity to miss an opportunity...lol lol
But go ahead and blame the Joooooos, and play your sad Khuffar music, cause you haven't got any music of your own, or anything. Even your own fellow Araqbs treat you like shit. Pathetic video. You are hopeless.
@celltechlars They are about as hopeless as Jews were in the Auschwitz. Sound familiar? Now with the help of the world, especially the US, Jews / Israel has flourished. So what do they do? They go and impose their own version of Auschwitz on the Palestinian Arabs. Just like the world saved the Jews, so to will they save the Palestinian Arabs. Jews always cry antisemitism, meanwhile constantly showing their own contempt / racism for other races and faiths. SHAMELESS COMMENT!!!
@steute2011 There is no comparrison at all. Palistinians can have peace tomorrow if they wanted. What do they do ? They vote in retards that have the idiotic ambition to defeat Isreal. Pathetic. Isreal, if your absurd assertions were correct, would simply exterminate it's idiotic neighbours. Certainly, they can. Immagine if Palistinians had power like that. Your comparison shows a level of strupidity...the word "special" comes to mind.
@celltechlars Well of course there is no comparison at all...Israels version is a slow and gradual process, which gives the impression that it is humane. If you strip people of there dignity and basic rights, and then call them retards, you can not expect peace? To assert that somehow their choice of government is the cause for the illegal occupation, illegal settlements, illegal wall, and human rights violations shows how arrogantly stupid you are. Hamas has only been in government since 2007.
@steute2011 Look, it's a complicated long-term problem. Let's say it's unfair, for arguments sake. This type of situation has occured all over the world. Say the native Australians were to decide to attack their occupiers. It would make sense in one way, but it would be entirely retarded to do so. Why ? Because they can not win, for starters. Palastinians can be glad that Israel hasn't simply exterminated them. Because they can. Even if this is unfair, it is a fact.
@steute2011 Antagonising a rather more powerful enemy is stupid, irresponsible and basically retarded. The outcome is predictable, and obvious. What is even more stupid, is the whining and whinging when the obvious outcome comes about. We all have to make do with a less than ideal situation. With less than fair treatment. Unfortunately, the Palistinians fail to come to terms with reality. THIS is retarded. This renders them to be such undignified people. They repeat mistakes again and again.
@steute2011 If Israel eventually decides to simply destroy it's pesky neighbours...like all of them, and expand their lands in this way, I would not be glad, nor would I think this is exactly fair. But I would understand it, and I would not be surprised. The next war against Isreal, will again give them this opportunity. Again, they will win easily. And again, they will generously let their foolish attackers off the hook. And plebs like like you will bray your usual folly, no doubt.
@celltechlars It's a good thing the rest of the world does not share you assessment of the situation. While I understand your indifferent opinion, I flatly reject it. If everyone took that approach, we would never affect change in the world. It is up to the international community to ensure that countries and peoples are not denied their very basic rights. If you believe that Israel will somehow remain unaccountable for it's behavior, you are highly mistaken.
@steute2011 Accountable to whome exactly ? To England ? To the US ? To Australia ? To Russia ? To china ? We all have bloody histories. Israel is what it is. They will not simply up and leave. Why should they ? Look at what they have achieved with little that they have. Palistinians can do the same. Instead, they remain retarded with hatred, and thirst for blood. They are consuming them selves in this way. I have no sympathy for their foolish intollerance.
@celltechlars The fact is that the conflict is not over land. It is over the religious hatred for all things Jewish. It stems from Islamic dogma. A small sample:
Ishaq:240 "The Jews are a nation of liars.... The Jews are a treacherous, lying, and evil people."
@celltechlars I could just as easily provide hateful quotes from the Talmud, Hebrew Bible and other Jewish religious scripture, but the fact remains that they both hate each other. It's not not like Jews don't show there hatred for Muslims, even referring to them as all sorts of foul names, which I wont repeat. Try to remember that all people of a race or ethnicity can not and should not be judged by the actions of some.
@steute2011 You'll find no verses of hatred for Muslims in Jewish scripture. Islam is absolutely unique in this. You are in gross denial over this point. If Isreal were to concede and withdraw from the so called illigal occupation, nothing would change. The Muslims will not be apeased to any degree what so ever. This is what you obviously don't get. It's not over a (very tiny) piece of land. It is the hateful Islamic doctrine towards Jews. Hamas will not be satisfied until all Jews are killed.
@steute2011 It is clear from your comments that you naively think the conflict is over realestate. Isreal is tiny. There is no lack of room at all. There is only the inbread hatred for all Jews according to Islamic doctrine. THIS is the only problem. THIS is the reason there will never be peace between Israel, and it's neighbours. The idea that Palistinians will be "happy" and "peaceful" once they have some irrelevent few blocks of worthless land is laughably stupid. Read those verses again !!
@celltechlars Well any of the countries you mentioned could bring about accountability by force, with rather ease. However, I would prefer to see sanctions imposed on Israel until it ends the illegal occupation. I believe that that would be all it would take. There id no question they have achieved much for such a small nation and to risk it all for the sake of continuing an illegal occupation is reckless. Tell me how peaceful you would feel if you were denied your basic rights in your homeland?
@steute2011 Again, your naive folly about the nature of the conflict comes out in this comment. No sanctions will change the doctrine of Islam. Jews have been percecuted by Muslims for 1400 years. If you had your way, You'd discover that the only thing on the minds of Palastinians is killing Jews. But we know this already. Israel is in fact entitled to retaliate hard against a people who openly declare their intentions to exterminate them. Still, they kindly do not. Immagine if Muslims had power
@steute2011 All Palistinians need to to is get on with their lives. Build a thriving community of their own. Isrealis have done nothing, Palistinians can not also do. If they were to be at peace with Israel, and accept their actual help in technology and establishing a healthy community, they could become the Jewel of Arabial. The possibilities are enormous. They can have peace tomorrow. But they do not want it. They neither want lands, nor peace. They want blood. Hence they remain retarded.
@steute2011 A little tast of reality...The first polio vaccine was developed by Jonas Salk, a Jew. The oral vaccine was developed by Albert Sabin, another Jew. This has saved millions of Muslims lives. Even Jonas Salk cares for Muslims. Muslims haven't developed any cures for any disease. The only thing they have developed is throat cutting and beheadings etc...oh, well, there was that explosive concealed in underwear...
@celltechlars You have obviously made up your mind that all Muslims are Terrorists out for blood and to destroy Israel. While there is nothing I can say that would change that, I will flatly reject it. I will also flatly reject the idea that Israel has the right to deny any group of peoples their right to self determination. I am safe in the knowledge that your extreme views of these people and the conflict as a whole are not mainstream in Israel or abroad. We agree to disagree!
@steute2011 Geg. " You have obviously made up your mind that all Muslims are Terrorists...etc." This is a grossly false statement. If such a severe distortion of my comment seems like something "obvious" to you, we can fairly see your inability to percieve even simply realities accurately. You have made several other false statements, non of which you have conceded. I think your desire to cling to idillic ideas about the conflict (and even me) is far greater than your desire for accuracy.
@celltechlars Since you insist on making it seem as if I have fabricated or distorted your opinion of Muslims / Palestinians, I will ask you to go back through your comments on this page. As you do so, you will find many quotes where degrade Palestinians and refer to them in less than flattering terms. For you to suggest that these comments can be interpreted any differently then I have, I illogical at best.
@steute2011 As for your aparent exit from this discussion on the (false) basis that I have this extraordinary view of all muslims, this is a weak excuse. The fact that you have not even a basic understanding of the underlying issues renders you hopelessly lost in this conversation, and the unpleasent task of admitting some simple errors is in fact what I believe to be your real reason for breaking off this discourse. We have only scratched the surface. Immagine the extent of your deeper errors.
@celltechlars I do not believe my opinion is much different from that of the most fair minded people. Which is a two-state solution, based on the 1967 lines, with land swaps. I will concede that there are two huge sticking points that will be difficult to overcome. The first being the refugee question. There is no way that Israel can accept 5 million Arabs into Israel proper. The second point being East Jerusalem. Both peoples have deep religious ties here and so it will be a touchy subject.
@steute2011 If you thing Palistinians want anything other than the complete destructuion of Israel, then you are dreaming. Two state, one state, no state....blah blah blah. Just ask the Palistinians. They'll tell you in no uncertain terms. Get it ? They don't give a damn about states. They follow Qur'an. To cooporate in any way with the Jews is UNTHINKABLE, and any leader who would even suggest seriously doing so on any level, will quickly be killed. You are very slow to catch on, like most.
@celltechlars You seem to know Palestinians so well that you can actually speak for them. That is truly amazing. I believe most would be happy just to get their dignity back at this point, but their own state would be even better. You say I am slow to catch on to your narrative, but what would you say to the tens of thousands of Jewish people in and outside of Israel, whom share my view that the occupation is wrong? You really should not label entire peoples, as it discredits your argument.
@steute2011 I would say that many wrongs have been commited on both sides. Perhaps "the occupation" IS wrong from a certain perspective. One wrong amongst the many. Putting right this particular wrong, will not do anything towards peace. It will in fact encourage even more irrational desire to destroy Israel. Again:
The conflict is not, and has never been over real estate. This is a very naive idea. The most recent "land" issue is very minor. Giving land will solve nothing.
@steute2011 The pathetic whining of the Palastinians is completely boring. The conflict is not over land. It is borne out of the hateful doctrine of Islam. Over half of the Israelis are refugees from Arab states. Can THEY expect to be given back their lands, and their belongings ? No. Do we hear them whining like wipped puppies ? No. Israel was attacked by five Arab states as soon as it came into existence, not because of land, but because Islam teaches to do it.
@steute2011 Five states attack. They were certain in their minds that Jews will never be able to have a state of their own. Muslims have ruled over them for 1400 years throughout Arabia. Muslims could not tollerate the idea of Jewish people governing themselves. So the Arabs attacked. It was in fact the Arab armies that ordered the Palistinians to vacate their homes. It was to be for the short time it would take to overpower Israel, and then go back. Only the Arabs met strong resistence.
@steute2011 Israelis had come together in order to escape the generations of persecution under Islamic rule, and they were determined never to fall under the Muslims barbaric rule again. They fought back, and overcame their attackers. Israelis, not Arabs were now in control of not only their original lands, but also of the evacuated regions. Almost all of which they gave back(without obligation). Arabs owe the palistinians a place to live. Certainly not Israel. But they whine. Loosers they are.
@steute2011 Many simmilar situations have played out all over the world. The aggressors loose, and pay the price. With relative dignity. The Palistinians have no such dignity. It is a personal choice not to whine, not to hate, not to thirst for irrational vengence. Keep in mind that back then, the land was worthles. A dust bowl, after Ottomans rule rendered all it's lands neglected and perished. Israelis work hard. Muslims have done nothing. Now they want something for nothing. Pathetic !!
@steute2011 In the end, the original conflict remains. Jews must NEVER be allowed to have a state of their own. As far as Muslims are concerned, the moment that they feel they can defeat Israel, they will try again. And again, and again . As they have already done. Each time they have lost, and now, like the honour-less and undignified loosers that they are, they come whining about wanting to have "THEIR" land back. As if land was ever the issue. Anyhow, if you can get over your self, go learn.
@celltechlars I would like to first thank you for taking the time to explain your view in such pain staking detail. While I believe some of your historical observations are factually incorrect, I have chosen not to challenge you on them. Instead, I will concentrate on the main point, which is for me the current illegal occupation. You seem to semi-concede that this is wrong. I will concede that there is a very real and present danger to Israel from it's neighbors. Cont.>>>
@celltechaiars If you insist on believing that Israel can never end the occupation and that the Arabs will not rest until Israel is destroyed, then what is the answer in your opinion? Do you kill all the Muslims in the world so that Israel can feel safe? Do you continue the occupation forever and continue to be isolated by the international community? You seem to to have this obsession with blaming the Muslims for everything. You are feeding the hate machine.
@steute2011 I am not blaming the Muslims for "everything". I am pointing out the completely well understood fact (amongst virtually every Arab) that the Arabs are not, and will never be interested in peace. No ammount of land swaps will change this. It was never over land. It was over the religious commandments of Qur'an. THIS is what it is now and tomorrow. When Muslims leave their perverse prophet behind, then there will be peace. This isn't about to happen soon. Hence, no solution AT ALL.
@celltechlars For arguments sake, I will concede (without verifying) that what you say is true, in regards to the Muslims not wanting peace and therefore no solution at all. Now I would like you to consider my thoughts. The world does not agree with reasoning for the continued occupation and has targeted Israel as a sort of rogue state. So, how better to prove to the world that it is not about the occupied land and give it up? Cont.>>>
@celltechairs Once Israel has complied with wishes of the international community and is then attacked, she will instantly have vindication and support for her position. I realize that this may be a bit risky based on your predictions of what would happen, but I think with the incredible military strength and technology possessed by Israel, they would be able to react quickly and prevent any significant damage to there state or civilians. This of course is just my wishful thinking!
@steute2011 Reg. "The world does not agree..." lol lol You mean popular media that you have been exposed to...hardly qualifies as "the world". It doesn't qualify for anything at all. Stop dreaming. Nothing will change here. The Arabs will occasionaly work up the bravado to act on Allahs command to drive out all Jews. They will invariably loose, and in the process, become even more disenfrachised. Predictably. And airhead loosers / useful idiots will whine as usual...totally boring. Predictable.
@celltechlars You could not be further from the truth. In the US, the media is completely bias in favor of Israel. So if I were to base my opinion on the media here, l would not know that settlements and occupation are illegal, since in the US media, the illegal settlements are called Jewish neighborhoods. It is not the Arabs that possess the biggest threat to Israel, but rather the unknown. If you do not think world opinion is heavily against Israel, you need only look at the Israeli media.
@steute2011 I didn't say "US Media"...I said popular media. By your own admission, you refer to "media". And this, according to you, represents "the world". I think you here by verified the reason behind your naive perspective. At the same time, you claim the US media doesn't agree with your views. Apparently, the US is not part of "the world". Immagine how many other portions of the human race you conveniently exclude from "the world", almost all of which you do not know at all....lol lol
Yeah sure, you would have to live under a rock not to know that the US media has always had a bias in favor of Israel. Well Mr.Rocket Scientist...why don't you tell me where you would find out what world opinion is of a country. Here is a hint: World Public Opinion.org. The poll done by the BBC in 2007 indicates Israel comes in 2nd place for the most negative influence in 27 countries polled. This was second only to Iran. Cont>>>>
@celltechlars In 2010, the BBC again did international poll of 28 countries, and guess what country came in 4th place for negative votes? Yes it was Israel, 4th behind countries like North Korea, Pakistan, Iran. Along with these kinds of polls. I also read reports put out by all the major human rights organizations, I have read most of the UN resolutions against Israel, which number in the hundreds and can be found on the UN website.
@celltechlars Even in the US, you current approval rating amongst the public is less than 50%. So when you challenge the notion that world opinion of Israel is at it's all time low, you should be able to a source for your delusion. You ridiculous stand on this conflict is just further proof that Israel and her supporters have gone as far right, as possible and there is probably no coming back. Your argument is sad at best!!!!
@steute2011 What is even more telling of your amazingly narrow focus, is that you claim I need only look at Israeli media, to know what is the opinion of "the world"....lol lol
@steute2011 I think you will gain much insight into this conflict by studying Islamic history. Since a few years before Muhammads death, it has been Open-Season on all "Jews" on the Peninsular. It is part of Islamic scripture. It is deeply, and unquestionably embedded in their doctrine. Notice I say 'Jew"...not Israeli...
Maybe you don't understand the way of the Arab mindset. In the ME, everyone is regarded by religion.
@steute2011 It took me a while to understand just how deeply entrenched this is. In ME, the first and formost thing about another is "what" you are. Either Muslim, Jew, Christian, or Pagan(everyone else, regardless of belief). Again, notice I don't say Israeli. It is the Jew...EVERY Jew in fact, that Arabs hate unconditionally. We have 1400 years of history that says so, as well as Islamic scripture, rife with hatred for every Jew on earth. How hard can it be to grasp what every Arab knows ?
@steute2011 It is not that I am against Islam because of some personal thing. I am against Islam, because Islam is against me. Jews are not against Islam, for some reasons of their own. Jews(and every non-muslim) is considered as the enemy of Allah. Islam is at war against all non-muslims. IT IS THE VERY NATURE OF ISLAM. How can we even begin to hope for peace between Israel, and it's arab neighbours....there is no way, until Islam collapses...say...like communism suddenly collapsed
@celltechlars Communism is not quite dead, as there are still 5 communist countries left, with China being the biggest and most successful. In any case Communism is a sociopolitical movement, where as Islam is a religion. So, I don't see the fall of Islam coming anytime soon and that's why we have to find a way to co-exist. If we look at the Christian prophecy of "End of Days", one can assume that the Christians want Jews either dead or converted. So every religion has some questionable rhetoric
@steute2011 I was refering to Soviet Communism specifically.
Belief in the day of Judgement is common to Jew, Christians and Muslims.
Your assumption that Christians want Jews dead or converted is an admission of your gross ignorance, and shows a lack of desire for reality. No Christians have this thinking.
Islam however, is above all else, a political party. Thinly disguised as a religion. An expansionistic, dictatorial, and totalitarien political party constantly seeking to dominate.
@celltechlars I do not assume that Christians want Jews dead, I was making the point, that if we use your logic that Islam wants Jews dead because of there religious beliefs, the we should say the same for the Christians based on the 'End of Days" prophecy. Don't try and compare the judgement day of Judaism with that of Christians, because it fails. Now I was nice to you and you keep calling me ignorant when in fact you are the idiot who continues to contradict himself. NOW FUCK OFF!
@steute2011 You might be interested to know that Muslims love poeple like you. They regard you as a "useful Idiot". Now don't get confused...I'm not saying that about you, but I can see how they form this view nevertheless.
Here is what your new friends regard lawful towards useful idiots:
Malik Ibn Anas was asked: "What is the punishment of a master who beats his slave to death?" He answered: "Nothing!" (Vol. 6, Part 15, p 164).
Bow down and kiss Muhammads robe. Islam is great !
@celltechlars I would list the quote from Talmud that make unimaginable references to 'Gentiles" (non-Jews), but that would make no sense...since my argument is and has been about very basic rights...Not religion. Now you constantly assert that giving back land would do nothing to bring peace. However, if you look at the peace that has existed between Israel and Egypt, once Israel gave back the Sinai, we can conclude that it is possible.
@celltechlars It is because of dumb fucks like you that Israel has gone so far to the right and has lost the support of the international community. It won't be long before Israel steps on the wrong toes and gets destroyed. You dumb racist fuck!
@steute2011 Reg. " It is because of dumb fucks like you that Israel has gone so far to the right..." loooool !!
You be very funny now...lol lol Arabs have wanted to destroy Israel from day one. And all Jews for 1400 years. Stepping on toes or not is irrelevent. Your level of stupidity and ignorance is....ahhm....the word "special" comes to mind....lol lol I was admiring your sincerity, up till now. But here you have shown yourself to be very naive and deluded. And full of hatred. lol lol
@celltechlars I accept my title of "special", but it changes nothing. You are Islamophobic and that has been your argument from the very beginning. In every single comment you made has exclusively been in reference to Islam. I do not believe you are making an argument for Israel or Jews, but rather a platform for you to express your clear disdain for Islam. Again before you deny this, just look back through your comments and this will become abundantly clear.
@steute2011 Reg. " You are Islamophobic..." Oh ok...what's that ? You think I have some hidden agenda related to my distain for Islam. This is your way of excusing yourself from ending your sustained ignorance. The reason that my comments are leaning towards a critique of Islam, is not because of distain, or some phobia. It is because Islam is the very basis of the ME conflict. Your delusions of solving the conflict with swapping some blocks of land is completely absurd. Laughable.
@steute2011 Your ideas about the ME clearly do not include Islamic history and doctrine. Nor do you care to simply regard what every Arab knows already. Tell me, what happened to the Arab Jews shortly after Muhammad died. At the hands of Ummar ? And why did Ummar decide to do this ? Tell me, what was the nature of the relationship between Muhammad and the Jewish tribes scattered around Arabia ? Perhaps it is you who has a phobia. Maybe you be Realityphobic....lol lol
@steute2011 Reg. "You dumb racist fuck!" Look how you distort reality. Muslims necessarily hate Jews. THIS of course is racist in the extreme. I point this out to you, and you call me racist...I am in no way racist. I have written nothing here to even suggest this about myself. I'm German marrying Arab :)
Study Islamic history / Doctrine. This will wake you up....
@celltechlars I will now take the high road and apologize to you for my immature comments, which were prompted by your insult "ignorant". To this end, I will bow out of this debate with you, since everything I say seems to make no sense and I am obviously not bright enough to carry on a conversation with you.
@steute2011 You feel insulted at the suggestion that you be ignorant ? lol lol
Ignorance is nothing to be ashamed of. Not at all. We are all ignorant. From day one. Have you not ignored Islamic history and Doctrine ? Have you not ignored to inquire of the beliefs that virtually every Arab holds to regarding Jews ? Is it not ignorant in the extreme, when a person claims to know what is the opinion of "the world" ? lol lol Sure, you are very ignorant regarding ME conflict. But this is no insult.
@celltechlars I have already provided sources for my INFORMED statement on world opinion of Israel's actions in this conflict and provided my sources for any information that In have used to form my own opinion on the ME conflict, i.e., UN (including all organs), Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, B'tselem and Doctors Without Borders. Now besides quoting scripture from the Qur'an, you have provided nothing but baseless accusations of ignorance on my part and a bunch of childish lol's.
@steute2011 Reg. " UN (including all organs), Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, B'tselem and Doctors Without Borders...." blah blah blah...non of these PC orgs will speak of the problem. I have only used a (tiny) sample of Islamic doctrine, because it is the sole reason for the conflict. There simply is no other reason what so ever. It beggars belief how utterly incapable you are in comming to terms with this reality....lol lol
You fairly deserve ridicule about now. YES you do...
@celltechlars You can not ridicule me, you can only attempt to. If you weren't so horribly stupid, you might actually realize that what you are writing here will be read by many people and will clearly show you to be nothing more than a hateful cockroach! So now you can crawl back under your rock!
@steute2011 Actually, I can, and I did...though only a little. Instead I gave you the very reason for the conflict at issue. You can now check it out. Verify it. Learn the truth. And hopefully become a little wiser.
Let me know when your'e done, and we can continue towards another level. But first you need to wake up. I'm sure you can already smell the coffee.
Then again, judging by your comment, you seem to resent me for rubbing your nose in it. Still, at least now you know where to look.
@steute2011 Instead, I will give you another complete and irrefutable sample of the "actual" problem....are you ready...?
"The Prophet on his death-bed, gave three orders saying, 'Expel the pagans from the Arabian Peninsula. . .'" (Hadith Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 288.)
'Let not two religions be left in the Arabian peninsula.' [Ibn Ishaq, p. 689]"
Did you read it ? ...but you want to scamper back to your idiotic PC media friends, right ?
@steute2011 Here's another solid, hard hitting piece of reality for you...I hope it hurts...
"You cannot allow Christians, Jews and Polytheists to stay in the Arabian Peninsula, regardless of whether they are women or men. This is so because Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) told us to drive them out of this Peninsula, and the Muslims have no need for them." (Shaykh Abdul-Aziz Bin Baz, quoted p. 87, 'Religious Edicts,' (Book, 36),
If you be starting to feel sinking feeling in stomach...good sighn !
@steute2011 Let me now ask you a question...What's the big deal about the slums and apalling conditions of the Palisinians? They are not so bad even. Why you don't care about the slums of Morroco, for example. Here we have even more long-term miserable conditions. What about Sudan? Libia? Palistinians are a drop in the ocean. Yet you know nothing of this? You think Palistinians are treated badly? How does Lebanon treat them ? How does egypt treat them? Why every Arab state reject them ? Explain!
@celltechlars "They are not even that bad". Here you show you true willful ignorance. Just check any international human rights organization web site and you can disprove yourself. I do care about human rights violations committed everywhere in the world, but our conversation is about Israel / Palestine. There are many Palestinian refugees in the neighboring Arab states. The Palestinians have chosen not to flee, but rather to stay and fight for there independence from their oppressors.
@steute2011 Pull your head out of the sand...you know nothing of the situation on the ground. Palist. slums are no worse than any of the many ME slums. Better than some to be sure. Not so bad in comparison. But you wouldn't know this. Millions die misserably all over muslim world. And you think Israel contibutes to this ? Remove Israel, and there wouldn't even be a noticable change at all. Millions will continue to rot all over the place. You are very very naive. You never go there, right ?
@steute2011 Palistinians live in Slums because non of the arab states will allow them citisenship you bloody stupid moron. Why you think they are rotting away where they are ? Why you think their own people treat them like shit ? WHY ? You don't have the answer, because you haven't even begun to open your eyes to the problem. EVERY person in ME knows exactly what is going on. How can you be so gullable ? Palistinians would be long gone, if only Arabs would allow them to leave there.
@steute2011 Palistinians will gladly become absorbed into any one of the arab states. And you foolishly think they choose to stay and fight Israel...lol lol ...some fight...lol lol You be so very stupid and naive. They simply haven't got anywhere to go at all. How does Lebanon treat their fellow Arabs, the Palistinians ? Like utter shit. Israel treat them better than any one, when thei're not behaving like savages. Arabs fuck the palistinians. Use them as porns against Israel. You wake up now k?
@steute2011 Neither Jews, nor christians seek to convert or dominate a country, or the whole world. Islam, and only Islam has this as their doctrine. Islam is not like other religions. It is much closer to political idiologies. Namely Nazism and Communism. Together, these three idiologies have the most bloody histories, with Islam topping the short list. Consider some of the Islamic laws(Shariah), that all Muslims seek to mimopse on all the world...Cont.
also Abu Hanifa, Shafi'i, Malik, and Sufyan al-Thawri
"Female slaves are deprived of dignity and subject to abuse because they are not `an honor' to anyone" (that is, they are not free, respectable women who belong to a free man).
Ibn Timiyya (Vol. 31, p. 380),
It is lawful to kill the infidel or to enslave him, and it also makes it lawful to take his offspring into captivity.
@steute2011 Here's what you think you should be making peace with....straight from the Shariah texts...
Ibn Timiyya (Vol. 35, p. 54).
"The one who owns the mother also owns her children. Being the master of the mother makes him the owner of her children whether they were born to a husband or they were illegitimate children. Therefore, the master has the right to have sexual intercourse with the daughters of his maid-slave because they are his property..."
@steute2011 The idea that giving over certain land etc etc would end the conflict is about as naive as it gets. The conflict will not end until every Jew is driven off from the Arabic peninsular. Seeing that the Arabs are militarely incompetent, this isn't likely to happen any time soon. Hence the hatred of all Jews, according to Islamic dogma will continue, and Israel will continue to blossom, and defend it's self against this idiotic mindset. Time for wakeup !
@celltechlars If you are going to call someone "stupid" or "special", you should at least make sure your spelling is correct! Your spelling "strupidity", yeah, maybe in Israel.
Quit blaming everything on the Jews. Look what the world has done to them. Muslims want to kill everyone who isn't Islamic. Open your eyes to the most detructive peole in the world MUSLIMS!!!!!!
@downy62 , open YOUR eyes, Isra-Hell is HELLISH. Enough of playing the VICTIM card. The world is waking up to the brutality of the sadist Jews - your evil is there for the whole world to see. GET OUT OF THE STOLEN LAND and stop acting like greedy savages.
Fact: Terrorism has decreased in Israel by 90% when the "Wall of Hate" was built.
Fact: Israeli Troop deployment in the West Bank decreased when the "Wall of Hate" was built.
Fact: There isn't a curfew in the West Bank because of the wall.
Question, after Israel spent 2.1 billion dollars on the wall, why did they make it that an Israeli bulldozer can easily take it down. Why has Israeli taken down parts of the wall around several settlements last year?
Such propaganda !!! and they say the Jews control the media and the world if so why is there this shit on you tube ? If they did control every thing then whats this shit !!! ha ha lol to all who believe this shit !!!
And if Israel are terrorists, who are the ones that killed Athletes in Munich, Germany in 1972? Who are the ones doing daily suicide bombings in Israel? Who are the ones that calls for truce but goes out killing Israeli civilians, such as killing an Israeli girl during a flag of truce in 18 June 2003. Who hides behind children to attack Israel with rockets then claims Israel murderors when Israel responds with the collateral damage? Who is the coward using children as human shields?
You got it backwards, the jews came there first, Palestine came from the seas and invaded Israel. Then the Romans came in and conquered everybody, then the Muslims/Turks came and conquered them again, then Britain conquered them, and after WW2, they split Israel and Palestine in half, but Palestine didnt want that so they moved to the borders in hopes of all the Arabs to eliminate Israel, but they were defeated, and now we have what we have.
@Blacknite3d , nice try but NO cigar liar. READ the Balfour Declaration. You joos were told to assimilate as a condition with Palistianians alreadly living there in the Balfour Declaration. But have the jooos ever assimilated anywhere?
Enough of your Israeli propooganda full of lies. The world is waking up and seeing your evil. WHO is the one who keeps stealing land from the Palistianians. Watch the Video AGAIN with your eyes OPEN this time.
Let me also remind you that a large portion of the Palestinians left Israel/Palestine in around December 1947 and made camped at the border, to await for the Arabic Armies to "march Israel to the sea".
I wonder who started all the fighting? 29 Nov 1947, UN split Israel and Palestine, with Palestine having more land than Israel, Israel agreed to the terms, Palestine and Arabic Countries opposed it and started attacking British and Jewish people. 14 May 1948, day the Briisth mandate ended, and the day Israel gain independence was also the day Israel was attacked and invaded by Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and Iraq.
@Blacknite3d You wonder who started the fighting? Wonder no more dope because everyone KNOWS. The minute the Zionists got there, they started stealing the Palistianian homes and farms.
Yah right, israeli propaganda, Hamas never realy killed any kids, infact they follow the same code leon follows, no women no kids, this is the teachings of our religion, our religion deosn't allow us to cut a tree, yet the Satanic Talmud is full of Humen sacrifice and killing children to become one with your god lucifer, i've never in my life seen Hamas, hizbollah or any of our soldiers aiming at a child, nor women never.............but you caowrds have shown all kind of terrorisem
following account from the Book of Judges,the Israelite warrior Jephthah is about to set off to make war on the Ammonites. In payment for victory, he promises LORD God he will sacrifice the first "whatsoever" that comes from his house to greet him upon his return. Unless Jephthah keeps oxen, sheep, goats, chickens in his living room, he must expect the promised victim will be a human being. Notice that Jephthah does not promise to sacrifice "an ox" or "goat,"
And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the LORD, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands,
Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.
And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she was his only child; beside her he had neither son nor daughter.
And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me: for I have opened my mouth unto the LORD, and I cannot go back.
Let us reflect for a moment. We know Jephthah vowed to LORD God to sacrifice "whatsoever" first came out of the door of his house. We suspect Jephthah plans to sacrifice one of his servants. But when the "whatsoever" turned out to be Jephthah's daughter, Jephthah is surprised. Notice his daughter's reaction:
And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the LORD, do to me according to that which hath proceeded out of thy mouth; forasmuch as the LORD hath taken vengeance for thee of thine enemies, even of the children of Ammon.
She expresses no surprise that LORD God would accept a human sacrifice, nor does she protest; she does not say, "Father, let's use some common sense. You know LORD God is dead set against human sacrifice. He must have thought an ox would meet you on your return, or perhaps a goat, or one of the chickens. There must be a misunderstanding." Instead, she urges her father to keep his promise. She says:
And she said unto her father, Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and bewail my virginity, I and my fellows.
Jephthah agrees:
And he said, Go. And he sent her away for two months: and she went with her companions, and bewailed her virginity upon the mountains.
And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man. And it was a custom in Israel,
That the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.
None but perfect animals are permitted to be ritually sacrificed in Judaism. Notice that Jephthah's daughter, too, is a perfect sacrifice — she is a virgin. Notice that LORD God does not stop this human sacrifice, as he stopped the sacrifice of Abraham's son.
The Old Testament does not specify how Jephthah sacrifices his daughter, but following the correct methods for animal sacrifice, he would slit her throat first and drain her blood into a Temple service vessel; cut off her arms, legs, and head; cut the torso in sections, remove her entrails and wash them; pour, sprinkle, and smear her blood at prescribed points around the altar; and burn the flesh. Or of course, a priest might do this for him.
i am a proud palestinian and i love my country , but i have never bin to my real homeland
Alpha8264 5 months ago
@Alpha8264 Israel land belongs to israelis, and has proof from thousands of years ago, so you cant complain that its ur land.
TJace50 1 month ago
@TJace50 yeah let give back all the land according to history, america should give back the west coast to mexican, they took it couple hundred years ago.
vitagen84 3 weeks ago
@vitagen84 oh btw TJace50, u an idiot
vitagen84 3 weeks ago
Anybody who supports Israel is either uneducated about the history, or is a real evil mother-fucker
MsSaskatoon 5 months ago
This is f*cking biased.. and my english teacher showd us a shortened version of this vid.. and i felt sooooo offended.. he shouldnt show us stuff like this.. =___=
xSasuNaruAmutox 5 months ago
The "wall of hate" has stopped hundreds of suicidebombers and terrorists to murder hundreds of innocent israelis. I would say that it is "the wall of love".. But i don´t like the illegal settlements built on palestine territory. i see them as unnecessary provocations..
alarik36 5 months ago
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alarik36 5 months ago
גם אני שונא יהודים וערבים!!!!!!!!!!!
MrXRxExLx 9 months ago
LOL ROFL!@
OMG,havent seen so much BS in a long time!
This wall saves lives every day! its meant to stop palestinian terrorists to enter israel, only after the wall was built the bus/terror attacks stopped (now only gaza fires rockets)
The wall is very very effective and keeping terrorism out - it is complete lie that it "traps" palestinians with ought water&electricity simply because Israel (as always) still supplies water&electricity to Palestine,besides Jordan is 75% of palestine not Israel!
frosti7 9 months ago
So True!
shadowofears 10 months ago
This video is pathetic. What a lame effort, and an embarassment for the biggest and most hopeless loosers in all the world. As if more shame will make things better.
Palistinians never miss an oportunity to miss an opportunity...lol lol
But go ahead and blame the Joooooos, and play your sad Khuffar music, cause you haven't got any music of your own, or anything. Even your own fellow Araqbs treat you like shit. Pathetic video. You are hopeless.
celltechlars 10 months ago
@celltechlars They are about as hopeless as Jews were in the Auschwitz. Sound familiar? Now with the help of the world, especially the US, Jews / Israel has flourished. So what do they do? They go and impose their own version of Auschwitz on the Palestinian Arabs. Just like the world saved the Jews, so to will they save the Palestinian Arabs. Jews always cry antisemitism, meanwhile constantly showing their own contempt / racism for other races and faiths. SHAMELESS COMMENT!!!
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 There is no comparrison at all. Palistinians can have peace tomorrow if they wanted. What do they do ? They vote in retards that have the idiotic ambition to defeat Isreal. Pathetic. Isreal, if your absurd assertions were correct, would simply exterminate it's idiotic neighbours. Certainly, they can. Immagine if Palistinians had power like that. Your comparison shows a level of strupidity...the word "special" comes to mind.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars Well of course there is no comparison at all...Israels version is a slow and gradual process, which gives the impression that it is humane. If you strip people of there dignity and basic rights, and then call them retards, you can not expect peace? To assert that somehow their choice of government is the cause for the illegal occupation, illegal settlements, illegal wall, and human rights violations shows how arrogantly stupid you are. Hamas has only been in government since 2007.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 Look, it's a complicated long-term problem. Let's say it's unfair, for arguments sake. This type of situation has occured all over the world. Say the native Australians were to decide to attack their occupiers. It would make sense in one way, but it would be entirely retarded to do so. Why ? Because they can not win, for starters. Palastinians can be glad that Israel hasn't simply exterminated them. Because they can. Even if this is unfair, it is a fact.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 Antagonising a rather more powerful enemy is stupid, irresponsible and basically retarded. The outcome is predictable, and obvious. What is even more stupid, is the whining and whinging when the obvious outcome comes about. We all have to make do with a less than ideal situation. With less than fair treatment. Unfortunately, the Palistinians fail to come to terms with reality. THIS is retarded. This renders them to be such undignified people. They repeat mistakes again and again.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 If Israel eventually decides to simply destroy it's pesky neighbours...like all of them, and expand their lands in this way, I would not be glad, nor would I think this is exactly fair. But I would understand it, and I would not be surprised. The next war against Isreal, will again give them this opportunity. Again, they will win easily. And again, they will generously let their foolish attackers off the hook. And plebs like like you will bray your usual folly, no doubt.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 Reg. "Well of course there is no comparison at all..." If there is no comparison at all, why make it ?
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars It's a good thing the rest of the world does not share you assessment of the situation. While I understand your indifferent opinion, I flatly reject it. If everyone took that approach, we would never affect change in the world. It is up to the international community to ensure that countries and peoples are not denied their very basic rights. If you believe that Israel will somehow remain unaccountable for it's behavior, you are highly mistaken.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 Accountable to whome exactly ? To England ? To the US ? To Australia ? To Russia ? To china ? We all have bloody histories. Israel is what it is. They will not simply up and leave. Why should they ? Look at what they have achieved with little that they have. Palistinians can do the same. Instead, they remain retarded with hatred, and thirst for blood. They are consuming them selves in this way. I have no sympathy for their foolish intollerance.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars The fact is that the conflict is not over land. It is over the religious hatred for all things Jewish. It stems from Islamic dogma. A small sample:
Ishaq:240 "The Jews are a nation of liars.... The Jews are a treacherous, lying, and evil people."
Qur'an 59:14 "The Jews are devoid of sense.
Qur'an 4:55 "Sufficient for the Jew is the Flaming Fire!"
Ishaq:364 "Muslims, take not Jews and Christians as friends.
Tabari VII:97 'Kill any Jew who falls under your power.'"
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars I could just as easily provide hateful quotes from the Talmud, Hebrew Bible and other Jewish religious scripture, but the fact remains that they both hate each other. It's not not like Jews don't show there hatred for Muslims, even referring to them as all sorts of foul names, which I wont repeat. Try to remember that all people of a race or ethnicity can not and should not be judged by the actions of some.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 You'll find no verses of hatred for Muslims in Jewish scripture. Islam is absolutely unique in this. You are in gross denial over this point. If Isreal were to concede and withdraw from the so called illigal occupation, nothing would change. The Muslims will not be apeased to any degree what so ever. This is what you obviously don't get. It's not over a (very tiny) piece of land. It is the hateful Islamic doctrine towards Jews. Hamas will not be satisfied until all Jews are killed.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 It is clear from your comments that you naively think the conflict is over realestate. Isreal is tiny. There is no lack of room at all. There is only the inbread hatred for all Jews according to Islamic doctrine. THIS is the only problem. THIS is the reason there will never be peace between Israel, and it's neighbours. The idea that Palistinians will be "happy" and "peaceful" once they have some irrelevent few blocks of worthless land is laughably stupid. Read those verses again !!
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars Well any of the countries you mentioned could bring about accountability by force, with rather ease. However, I would prefer to see sanctions imposed on Israel until it ends the illegal occupation. I believe that that would be all it would take. There id no question they have achieved much for such a small nation and to risk it all for the sake of continuing an illegal occupation is reckless. Tell me how peaceful you would feel if you were denied your basic rights in your homeland?
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 Again, your naive folly about the nature of the conflict comes out in this comment. No sanctions will change the doctrine of Islam. Jews have been percecuted by Muslims for 1400 years. If you had your way, You'd discover that the only thing on the minds of Palastinians is killing Jews. But we know this already. Israel is in fact entitled to retaliate hard against a people who openly declare their intentions to exterminate them. Still, they kindly do not. Immagine if Muslims had power
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 All Palistinians need to to is get on with their lives. Build a thriving community of their own. Isrealis have done nothing, Palistinians can not also do. If they were to be at peace with Israel, and accept their actual help in technology and establishing a healthy community, they could become the Jewel of Arabial. The possibilities are enormous. They can have peace tomorrow. But they do not want it. They neither want lands, nor peace. They want blood. Hence they remain retarded.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 A little tast of reality...The first polio vaccine was developed by Jonas Salk, a Jew. The oral vaccine was developed by Albert Sabin, another Jew. This has saved millions of Muslims lives. Even Jonas Salk cares for Muslims. Muslims haven't developed any cures for any disease. The only thing they have developed is throat cutting and beheadings etc...oh, well, there was that explosive concealed in underwear...
Time for WakeUp !!
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars You have obviously made up your mind that all Muslims are Terrorists out for blood and to destroy Israel. While there is nothing I can say that would change that, I will flatly reject it. I will also flatly reject the idea that Israel has the right to deny any group of peoples their right to self determination. I am safe in the knowledge that your extreme views of these people and the conflict as a whole are not mainstream in Israel or abroad. We agree to disagree!
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 Geg. " You have obviously made up your mind that all Muslims are Terrorists...etc." This is a grossly false statement. If such a severe distortion of my comment seems like something "obvious" to you, we can fairly see your inability to percieve even simply realities accurately. You have made several other false statements, non of which you have conceded. I think your desire to cling to idillic ideas about the conflict (and even me) is far greater than your desire for accuracy.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars Since you insist on making it seem as if I have fabricated or distorted your opinion of Muslims / Palestinians, I will ask you to go back through your comments on this page. As you do so, you will find many quotes where degrade Palestinians and refer to them in less than flattering terms. For you to suggest that these comments can be interpreted any differently then I have, I illogical at best.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 As for your aparent exit from this discussion on the (false) basis that I have this extraordinary view of all muslims, this is a weak excuse. The fact that you have not even a basic understanding of the underlying issues renders you hopelessly lost in this conversation, and the unpleasent task of admitting some simple errors is in fact what I believe to be your real reason for breaking off this discourse. We have only scratched the surface. Immagine the extent of your deeper errors.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars I do not believe my opinion is much different from that of the most fair minded people. Which is a two-state solution, based on the 1967 lines, with land swaps. I will concede that there are two huge sticking points that will be difficult to overcome. The first being the refugee question. There is no way that Israel can accept 5 million Arabs into Israel proper. The second point being East Jerusalem. Both peoples have deep religious ties here and so it will be a touchy subject.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 If you thing Palistinians want anything other than the complete destructuion of Israel, then you are dreaming. Two state, one state, no state....blah blah blah. Just ask the Palistinians. They'll tell you in no uncertain terms. Get it ? They don't give a damn about states. They follow Qur'an. To cooporate in any way with the Jews is UNTHINKABLE, and any leader who would even suggest seriously doing so on any level, will quickly be killed. You are very slow to catch on, like most.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars You seem to know Palestinians so well that you can actually speak for them. That is truly amazing. I believe most would be happy just to get their dignity back at this point, but their own state would be even better. You say I am slow to catch on to your narrative, but what would you say to the tens of thousands of Jewish people in and outside of Israel, whom share my view that the occupation is wrong? You really should not label entire peoples, as it discredits your argument.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 I would say that many wrongs have been commited on both sides. Perhaps "the occupation" IS wrong from a certain perspective. One wrong amongst the many. Putting right this particular wrong, will not do anything towards peace. It will in fact encourage even more irrational desire to destroy Israel. Again:
The conflict is not, and has never been over real estate. This is a very naive idea. The most recent "land" issue is very minor. Giving land will solve nothing.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 The pathetic whining of the Palastinians is completely boring. The conflict is not over land. It is borne out of the hateful doctrine of Islam. Over half of the Israelis are refugees from Arab states. Can THEY expect to be given back their lands, and their belongings ? No. Do we hear them whining like wipped puppies ? No. Israel was attacked by five Arab states as soon as it came into existence, not because of land, but because Islam teaches to do it.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 Five states attack. They were certain in their minds that Jews will never be able to have a state of their own. Muslims have ruled over them for 1400 years throughout Arabia. Muslims could not tollerate the idea of Jewish people governing themselves. So the Arabs attacked. It was in fact the Arab armies that ordered the Palistinians to vacate their homes. It was to be for the short time it would take to overpower Israel, and then go back. Only the Arabs met strong resistence.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 Israelis had come together in order to escape the generations of persecution under Islamic rule, and they were determined never to fall under the Muslims barbaric rule again. They fought back, and overcame their attackers. Israelis, not Arabs were now in control of not only their original lands, but also of the evacuated regions. Almost all of which they gave back(without obligation). Arabs owe the palistinians a place to live. Certainly not Israel. But they whine. Loosers they are.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 Many simmilar situations have played out all over the world. The aggressors loose, and pay the price. With relative dignity. The Palistinians have no such dignity. It is a personal choice not to whine, not to hate, not to thirst for irrational vengence. Keep in mind that back then, the land was worthles. A dust bowl, after Ottomans rule rendered all it's lands neglected and perished. Israelis work hard. Muslims have done nothing. Now they want something for nothing. Pathetic !!
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 In the end, the original conflict remains. Jews must NEVER be allowed to have a state of their own. As far as Muslims are concerned, the moment that they feel they can defeat Israel, they will try again. And again, and again . As they have already done. Each time they have lost, and now, like the honour-less and undignified loosers that they are, they come whining about wanting to have "THEIR" land back. As if land was ever the issue. Anyhow, if you can get over your self, go learn.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars I would like to first thank you for taking the time to explain your view in such pain staking detail. While I believe some of your historical observations are factually incorrect, I have chosen not to challenge you on them. Instead, I will concentrate on the main point, which is for me the current illegal occupation. You seem to semi-concede that this is wrong. I will concede that there is a very real and present danger to Israel from it's neighbors. Cont.>>>
steute2011 7 months ago
@celltechaiars If you insist on believing that Israel can never end the occupation and that the Arabs will not rest until Israel is destroyed, then what is the answer in your opinion? Do you kill all the Muslims in the world so that Israel can feel safe? Do you continue the occupation forever and continue to be isolated by the international community? You seem to to have this obsession with blaming the Muslims for everything. You are feeding the hate machine.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 I am not blaming the Muslims for "everything". I am pointing out the completely well understood fact (amongst virtually every Arab) that the Arabs are not, and will never be interested in peace. No ammount of land swaps will change this. It was never over land. It was over the religious commandments of Qur'an. THIS is what it is now and tomorrow. When Muslims leave their perverse prophet behind, then there will be peace. This isn't about to happen soon. Hence, no solution AT ALL.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars For arguments sake, I will concede (without verifying) that what you say is true, in regards to the Muslims not wanting peace and therefore no solution at all. Now I would like you to consider my thoughts. The world does not agree with reasoning for the continued occupation and has targeted Israel as a sort of rogue state. So, how better to prove to the world that it is not about the occupied land and give it up? Cont.>>>
steute2011 7 months ago
@celltechairs Once Israel has complied with wishes of the international community and is then attacked, she will instantly have vindication and support for her position. I realize that this may be a bit risky based on your predictions of what would happen, but I think with the incredible military strength and technology possessed by Israel, they would be able to react quickly and prevent any significant damage to there state or civilians. This of course is just my wishful thinking!
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 Reg. "The world does not agree..." lol lol You mean popular media that you have been exposed to...hardly qualifies as "the world". It doesn't qualify for anything at all. Stop dreaming. Nothing will change here. The Arabs will occasionaly work up the bravado to act on Allahs command to drive out all Jews. They will invariably loose, and in the process, become even more disenfrachised. Predictably. And airhead loosers / useful idiots will whine as usual...totally boring. Predictable.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars You could not be further from the truth. In the US, the media is completely bias in favor of Israel. So if I were to base my opinion on the media here, l would not know that settlements and occupation are illegal, since in the US media, the illegal settlements are called Jewish neighborhoods. It is not the Arabs that possess the biggest threat to Israel, but rather the unknown. If you do not think world opinion is heavily against Israel, you need only look at the Israeli media.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 I didn't say "US Media"...I said popular media. By your own admission, you refer to "media". And this, according to you, represents "the world". I think you here by verified the reason behind your naive perspective. At the same time, you claim the US media doesn't agree with your views. Apparently, the US is not part of "the world". Immagine how many other portions of the human race you conveniently exclude from "the world", almost all of which you do not know at all....lol lol
celltechlars 7 months ago
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Yeah sure, you would have to live under a rock not to know that the US media has always had a bias in favor of Israel. Well Mr.Rocket Scientist...why don't you tell me where you would find out what world opinion is of a country. Here is a hint: World Public Opinion.org. The poll done by the BBC in 2007 indicates Israel comes in 2nd place for the most negative influence in 27 countries polled. This was second only to Iran. Cont>>>>
steute2011 7 months ago
@celltechlars In 2010, the BBC again did international poll of 28 countries, and guess what country came in 4th place for negative votes? Yes it was Israel, 4th behind countries like North Korea, Pakistan, Iran. Along with these kinds of polls. I also read reports put out by all the major human rights organizations, I have read most of the UN resolutions against Israel, which number in the hundreds and can be found on the UN website.
steute2011 7 months ago
@celltechlars Even in the US, you current approval rating amongst the public is less than 50%. So when you challenge the notion that world opinion of Israel is at it's all time low, you should be able to a source for your delusion. You ridiculous stand on this conflict is just further proof that Israel and her supporters have gone as far right, as possible and there is probably no coming back. Your argument is sad at best!!!!
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 What is even more telling of your amazingly narrow focus, is that you claim I need only look at Israeli media, to know what is the opinion of "the world"....lol lol
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 I think you will gain much insight into this conflict by studying Islamic history. Since a few years before Muhammads death, it has been Open-Season on all "Jews" on the Peninsular. It is part of Islamic scripture. It is deeply, and unquestionably embedded in their doctrine. Notice I say 'Jew"...not Israeli...
Maybe you don't understand the way of the Arab mindset. In the ME, everyone is regarded by religion.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 It took me a while to understand just how deeply entrenched this is. In ME, the first and formost thing about another is "what" you are. Either Muslim, Jew, Christian, or Pagan(everyone else, regardless of belief). Again, notice I don't say Israeli. It is the Jew...EVERY Jew in fact, that Arabs hate unconditionally. We have 1400 years of history that says so, as well as Islamic scripture, rife with hatred for every Jew on earth. How hard can it be to grasp what every Arab knows ?
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 It is not that I am against Islam because of some personal thing. I am against Islam, because Islam is against me. Jews are not against Islam, for some reasons of their own. Jews(and every non-muslim) is considered as the enemy of Allah. Islam is at war against all non-muslims. IT IS THE VERY NATURE OF ISLAM. How can we even begin to hope for peace between Israel, and it's arab neighbours....there is no way, until Islam collapses...say...like communism suddenly collapsed
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars Communism is not quite dead, as there are still 5 communist countries left, with China being the biggest and most successful. In any case Communism is a sociopolitical movement, where as Islam is a religion. So, I don't see the fall of Islam coming anytime soon and that's why we have to find a way to co-exist. If we look at the Christian prophecy of "End of Days", one can assume that the Christians want Jews either dead or converted. So every religion has some questionable rhetoric
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 I was refering to Soviet Communism specifically.
Belief in the day of Judgement is common to Jew, Christians and Muslims.
Your assumption that Christians want Jews dead or converted is an admission of your gross ignorance, and shows a lack of desire for reality. No Christians have this thinking.
Islam however, is above all else, a political party. Thinly disguised as a religion. An expansionistic, dictatorial, and totalitarien political party constantly seeking to dominate.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars I do not assume that Christians want Jews dead, I was making the point, that if we use your logic that Islam wants Jews dead because of there religious beliefs, the we should say the same for the Christians based on the 'End of Days" prophecy. Don't try and compare the judgement day of Judaism with that of Christians, because it fails. Now I was nice to you and you keep calling me ignorant when in fact you are the idiot who continues to contradict himself. NOW FUCK OFF!
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 You might be interested to know that Muslims love poeple like you. They regard you as a "useful Idiot". Now don't get confused...I'm not saying that about you, but I can see how they form this view nevertheless.
Here is what your new friends regard lawful towards useful idiots:
Malik Ibn Anas was asked: "What is the punishment of a master who beats his slave to death?" He answered: "Nothing!" (Vol. 6, Part 15, p 164).
Bow down and kiss Muhammads robe. Islam is great !
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars I would list the quote from Talmud that make unimaginable references to 'Gentiles" (non-Jews), but that would make no sense...since my argument is and has been about very basic rights...Not religion. Now you constantly assert that giving back land would do nothing to bring peace. However, if you look at the peace that has existed between Israel and Egypt, once Israel gave back the Sinai, we can conclude that it is possible.
steute2011 7 months ago
@celltechlars It is because of dumb fucks like you that Israel has gone so far to the right and has lost the support of the international community. It won't be long before Israel steps on the wrong toes and gets destroyed. You dumb racist fuck!
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 Reg. " It is because of dumb fucks like you that Israel has gone so far to the right..." loooool !!
You be very funny now...lol lol Arabs have wanted to destroy Israel from day one. And all Jews for 1400 years. Stepping on toes or not is irrelevent. Your level of stupidity and ignorance is....ahhm....the word "special" comes to mind....lol lol I was admiring your sincerity, up till now. But here you have shown yourself to be very naive and deluded. And full of hatred. lol lol
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars I accept my title of "special", but it changes nothing. You are Islamophobic and that has been your argument from the very beginning. In every single comment you made has exclusively been in reference to Islam. I do not believe you are making an argument for Israel or Jews, but rather a platform for you to express your clear disdain for Islam. Again before you deny this, just look back through your comments and this will become abundantly clear.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 Reg. " You are Islamophobic..." Oh ok...what's that ? You think I have some hidden agenda related to my distain for Islam. This is your way of excusing yourself from ending your sustained ignorance. The reason that my comments are leaning towards a critique of Islam, is not because of distain, or some phobia. It is because Islam is the very basis of the ME conflict. Your delusions of solving the conflict with swapping some blocks of land is completely absurd. Laughable.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 Your ideas about the ME clearly do not include Islamic history and doctrine. Nor do you care to simply regard what every Arab knows already. Tell me, what happened to the Arab Jews shortly after Muhammad died. At the hands of Ummar ? And why did Ummar decide to do this ? Tell me, what was the nature of the relationship between Muhammad and the Jewish tribes scattered around Arabia ? Perhaps it is you who has a phobia. Maybe you be Realityphobic....lol lol
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 Reg. "You dumb racist fuck!" Look how you distort reality. Muslims necessarily hate Jews. THIS of course is racist in the extreme. I point this out to you, and you call me racist...I am in no way racist. I have written nothing here to even suggest this about myself. I'm German marrying Arab :)
Study Islamic history / Doctrine. This will wake you up....
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars I will now take the high road and apologize to you for my immature comments, which were prompted by your insult "ignorant". To this end, I will bow out of this debate with you, since everything I say seems to make no sense and I am obviously not bright enough to carry on a conversation with you.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 You feel insulted at the suggestion that you be ignorant ? lol lol
Ignorance is nothing to be ashamed of. Not at all. We are all ignorant. From day one. Have you not ignored Islamic history and Doctrine ? Have you not ignored to inquire of the beliefs that virtually every Arab holds to regarding Jews ? Is it not ignorant in the extreme, when a person claims to know what is the opinion of "the world" ? lol lol Sure, you are very ignorant regarding ME conflict. But this is no insult.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars I have already provided sources for my INFORMED statement on world opinion of Israel's actions in this conflict and provided my sources for any information that In have used to form my own opinion on the ME conflict, i.e., UN (including all organs), Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, B'tselem and Doctors Without Borders. Now besides quoting scripture from the Qur'an, you have provided nothing but baseless accusations of ignorance on my part and a bunch of childish lol's.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 Reg. " UN (including all organs), Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, B'tselem and Doctors Without Borders...." blah blah blah...non of these PC orgs will speak of the problem. I have only used a (tiny) sample of Islamic doctrine, because it is the sole reason for the conflict. There simply is no other reason what so ever. It beggars belief how utterly incapable you are in comming to terms with this reality....lol lol
You fairly deserve ridicule about now. YES you do...
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars You can not ridicule me, you can only attempt to. If you weren't so horribly stupid, you might actually realize that what you are writing here will be read by many people and will clearly show you to be nothing more than a hateful cockroach! So now you can crawl back under your rock!
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 Actually, I can, and I did...though only a little. Instead I gave you the very reason for the conflict at issue. You can now check it out. Verify it. Learn the truth. And hopefully become a little wiser.
Let me know when your'e done, and we can continue towards another level. But first you need to wake up. I'm sure you can already smell the coffee.
Then again, judging by your comment, you seem to resent me for rubbing your nose in it. Still, at least now you know where to look.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 Instead, I will give you another complete and irrefutable sample of the "actual" problem....are you ready...?
"The Prophet on his death-bed, gave three orders saying, 'Expel the pagans from the Arabian Peninsula. . .'" (Hadith Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 288.)
'Let not two religions be left in the Arabian peninsula.' [Ibn Ishaq, p. 689]"
Did you read it ? ...but you want to scamper back to your idiotic PC media friends, right ?
Because you're a bloody idiot.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 Here's another solid, hard hitting piece of reality for you...I hope it hurts...
"You cannot allow Christians, Jews and Polytheists to stay in the Arabian Peninsula, regardless of whether they are women or men. This is so because Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) told us to drive them out of this Peninsula, and the Muslims have no need for them." (Shaykh Abdul-Aziz Bin Baz, quoted p. 87, 'Religious Edicts,' (Book, 36),
If you be starting to feel sinking feeling in stomach...good sighn !
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 Let me now ask you a question...What's the big deal about the slums and apalling conditions of the Palisinians? They are not so bad even. Why you don't care about the slums of Morroco, for example. Here we have even more long-term miserable conditions. What about Sudan? Libia? Palistinians are a drop in the ocean. Yet you know nothing of this? You think Palistinians are treated badly? How does Lebanon treat them ? How does egypt treat them? Why every Arab state reject them ? Explain!
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars "They are not even that bad". Here you show you true willful ignorance. Just check any international human rights organization web site and you can disprove yourself. I do care about human rights violations committed everywhere in the world, but our conversation is about Israel / Palestine. There are many Palestinian refugees in the neighboring Arab states. The Palestinians have chosen not to flee, but rather to stay and fight for there independence from their oppressors.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 Pull your head out of the sand...you know nothing of the situation on the ground. Palist. slums are no worse than any of the many ME slums. Better than some to be sure. Not so bad in comparison. But you wouldn't know this. Millions die misserably all over muslim world. And you think Israel contibutes to this ? Remove Israel, and there wouldn't even be a noticable change at all. Millions will continue to rot all over the place. You are very very naive. You never go there, right ?
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 Palistinians live in Slums because non of the arab states will allow them citisenship you bloody stupid moron. Why you think they are rotting away where they are ? Why you think their own people treat them like shit ? WHY ? You don't have the answer, because you haven't even begun to open your eyes to the problem. EVERY person in ME knows exactly what is going on. How can you be so gullable ? Palistinians would be long gone, if only Arabs would allow them to leave there.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 Palistinians will gladly become absorbed into any one of the arab states. And you foolishly think they choose to stay and fight Israel...lol lol ...some fight...lol lol You be so very stupid and naive. They simply haven't got anywhere to go at all. How does Lebanon treat their fellow Arabs, the Palistinians ? Like utter shit. Israel treat them better than any one, when thei're not behaving like savages. Arabs fuck the palistinians. Use them as porns against Israel. You wake up now k?
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 Neither Jews, nor christians seek to convert or dominate a country, or the whole world. Islam, and only Islam has this as their doctrine. Islam is not like other religions. It is much closer to political idiologies. Namely Nazism and Communism. Together, these three idiologies have the most bloody histories, with Islam topping the short list. Consider some of the Islamic laws(Shariah), that all Muslims seek to mimopse on all the world...Cont.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 A little sample from the Shariah...
(Vol. 8, Part II, p. 27 1), Ibn Hazm
also Abu Hanifa, Shafi'i, Malik, and Sufyan al-Thawri
"Female slaves are deprived of dignity and subject to abuse because they are not `an honor' to anyone" (that is, they are not free, respectable women who belong to a free man).
Ibn Timiyya (Vol. 31, p. 380),
It is lawful to kill the infidel or to enslave him, and it also makes it lawful to take his offspring into captivity.
BTW That includes you.
celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 Here's what you think you should be making peace with....straight from the Shariah texts...
Ibn Timiyya (Vol. 35, p. 54).
"The one who owns the mother also owns her children. Being the master of the mother makes him the owner of her children whether they were born to a husband or they were illegitimate children. Therefore, the master has the right to have sexual intercourse with the daughters of his maid-slave because they are his property..."
celltechlars 7 months ago
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celltechlars 7 months ago
@steute2011 The idea that giving over certain land etc etc would end the conflict is about as naive as it gets. The conflict will not end until every Jew is driven off from the Arabic peninsular. Seeing that the Arabs are militarely incompetent, this isn't likely to happen any time soon. Hence the hatred of all Jews, according to Islamic dogma will continue, and Israel will continue to blossom, and defend it's self against this idiotic mindset. Time for wakeup !
celltechlars 7 months ago
@celltechlars If you are going to call someone "stupid" or "special", you should at least make sure your spelling is correct! Your spelling "strupidity", yeah, maybe in Israel.
steute2011 7 months ago
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SuperDeeja 1 year ago
Quit blaming everything on the Jews. Look what the world has done to them. Muslims want to kill everyone who isn't Islamic. Open your eyes to the most detructive peole in the world MUSLIMS!!!!!!
downy62 1 year ago
@downy62 , open YOUR eyes, Isra-Hell is HELLISH. Enough of playing the VICTIM card. The world is waking up to the brutality of the sadist Jews - your evil is there for the whole world to see. GET OUT OF THE STOLEN LAND and stop acting like greedy savages.
tommurak 10 months ago
This video was only one sided.
Fact: Terrorism has decreased in Israel by 90% when the "Wall of Hate" was built.
Fact: Israeli Troop deployment in the West Bank decreased when the "Wall of Hate" was built.
Fact: There isn't a curfew in the West Bank because of the wall.
Question, after Israel spent 2.1 billion dollars on the wall, why did they make it that an Israeli bulldozer can easily take it down. Why has Israeli taken down parts of the wall around several settlements last year?
shinokiba 1 year ago
kill israelis, never negociate with the devil
jews are either kill or are killed
they can't live normally
help finish what hitler started
hayouni1968 1 year ago
Such propaganda !!! and they say the Jews control the media and the world if so why is there this shit on you tube ? If they did control every thing then whats this shit !!! ha ha lol to all who believe this shit !!!
gghonk 1 year ago
I = Illegal Installation of Indecent, Ignorant Imposters
S = Squatter? Setup of Savage, Self-righteous Swine
R = Racist Regime of Ruthless, Rights-abusing Robbers
A = American Aggression of An Arrogant Abomination
E = Evil, Envious Enemy of Humankind
L = Lying League of Lewd, Lazy Leeches
Revelutioner 1 year ago
i can't even hear you fucking bitch
if the muslim arabs will not stop do problems and support the terror they will eveb suffer more!
and nobody can't stop this
psychov1989 1 year ago
And if Israel are terrorists, who are the ones that killed Athletes in Munich, Germany in 1972? Who are the ones doing daily suicide bombings in Israel? Who are the ones that calls for truce but goes out killing Israeli civilians, such as killing an Israeli girl during a flag of truce in 18 June 2003. Who hides behind children to attack Israel with rockets then claims Israel murderors when Israel responds with the collateral damage? Who is the coward using children as human shields?
Blacknite3d 2 years ago
ur mother hahahahahhahaahhahahahah fucken retard
abducted1alien2freak 1 year ago
the jews are occupite the land pf palestine thats why all this shit is happening wake up
kokosam1959 1 year ago
@kokosam1959
You got it backwards, the jews came there first, Palestine came from the seas and invaded Israel. Then the Romans came in and conquered everybody, then the Muslims/Turks came and conquered them again, then Britain conquered them, and after WW2, they split Israel and Palestine in half, but Palestine didnt want that so they moved to the borders in hopes of all the Arabs to eliminate Israel, but they were defeated, and now we have what we have.
Blacknite3d 1 year ago
@Blacknite3d so you agree with the wall and opression of Palestinians? Dont be a natzi!
Karabas84 1 year ago
@Karabas84 How is it oppression if Palestine invaded Israel?
Blacknite3d 1 year ago
KOKOSAM
Your right I agree with you LEAVE THE JEWS ALONE!!!!!
downy62 1 year ago
@Blacknite3d , nice try but NO cigar liar. READ the Balfour Declaration. You joos were told to assimilate as a condition with Palistianians alreadly living there in the Balfour Declaration. But have the jooos ever assimilated anywhere?
tommurak 10 months ago
@Blacknite3d
Enough of your Israeli propooganda full of lies. The world is waking up and seeing your evil. WHO is the one who keeps stealing land from the Palistianians. Watch the Video AGAIN with your eyes OPEN this time.
tommurak 10 months ago
Let me also remind you that a large portion of the Palestinians left Israel/Palestine in around December 1947 and made camped at the border, to await for the Arabic Armies to "march Israel to the sea".
Blacknite3d 2 years ago
I wonder who started all the fighting? 29 Nov 1947, UN split Israel and Palestine, with Palestine having more land than Israel, Israel agreed to the terms, Palestine and Arabic Countries opposed it and started attacking British and Jewish people. 14 May 1948, day the Briisth mandate ended, and the day Israel gain independence was also the day Israel was attacked and invaded by Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and Iraq.
Blacknite3d 2 years ago
@Blacknite3d You wonder who started the fighting? Wonder no more dope because everyone KNOWS. The minute the Zionists got there, they started stealing the Palistianian homes and farms.
tommurak 10 months ago
So why the hell cant we get on of these between the US and Mexico?
Mexico is quickly becoming MORE VIOLENT than ANY WHERE in the ENTIRE East.
Palestine and Israel are starting to look quite peaceful compared to Mexico and its drug lord wars.
griptick 2 years ago
interesting. now show me Israeli kids murdered by fucking hamas, and than we can chose which country is worst
sniperRobert 2 years ago
Yah right, israeli propaganda, Hamas never realy killed any kids, infact they follow the same code leon follows, no women no kids, this is the teachings of our religion, our religion deosn't allow us to cut a tree, yet the Satanic Talmud is full of Humen sacrifice and killing children to become one with your god lucifer, i've never in my life seen Hamas, hizbollah or any of our soldiers aiming at a child, nor women never.............but you caowrds have shown all kind of terrorisem
Murder6Da6devil6Bush 2 years ago
Jews sacrifice children to Moloch
following account from the Book of Judges,the Israelite warrior Jephthah is about to set off to make war on the Ammonites. In payment for victory, he promises LORD God he will sacrifice the first "whatsoever" that comes from his house to greet him upon his return. Unless Jephthah keeps oxen, sheep, goats, chickens in his living room, he must expect the promised victim will be a human being. Notice that Jephthah does not promise to sacrifice "an ox" or "goat,"
Murder6Da6devil6Bush 2 years ago
And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the LORD, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands,
Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.
Murder6Da6devil6Bush 2 years ago
The first to pass through the doors of Jephthah's house upon his return is his only child, his beloved daughter.
Murder6Da6devil6Bush 2 years ago
And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she was his only child; beside her he had neither son nor daughter.
And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me: for I have opened my mouth unto the LORD, and I cannot go back.
Murder6Da6devil6Bush 2 years ago
Let us reflect for a moment. We know Jephthah vowed to LORD God to sacrifice "whatsoever" first came out of the door of his house. We suspect Jephthah plans to sacrifice one of his servants. But when the "whatsoever" turned out to be Jephthah's daughter, Jephthah is surprised. Notice his daughter's reaction:
Murder6Da6devil6Bush 2 years ago
And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the LORD, do to me according to that which hath proceeded out of thy mouth; forasmuch as the LORD hath taken vengeance for thee of thine enemies, even of the children of Ammon.
Murder6Da6devil6Bush 2 years ago
She expresses no surprise that LORD God would accept a human sacrifice, nor does she protest; she does not say, "Father, let's use some common sense. You know LORD God is dead set against human sacrifice. He must have thought an ox would meet you on your return, or perhaps a goat, or one of the chickens. There must be a misunderstanding." Instead, she urges her father to keep his promise. She says:
Murder6Da6devil6Bush 2 years ago
And she said unto her father, Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and bewail my virginity, I and my fellows.
Jephthah agrees:
And he said, Go. And he sent her away for two months: and she went with her companions, and bewailed her virginity upon the mountains.
Murder6Da6devil6Bush 2 years ago
And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man. And it was a custom in Israel,
That the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.
Murder6Da6devil6Bush 2 years ago
None but perfect animals are permitted to be ritually sacrificed in Judaism. Notice that Jephthah's daughter, too, is a perfect sacrifice — she is a virgin. Notice that LORD God does not stop this human sacrifice, as he stopped the sacrifice of Abraham's son.
Murder6Da6devil6Bush 2 years ago
The Old Testament does not specify how Jephthah sacrifices his daughter, but following the correct methods for animal sacrifice, he would slit her throat first and drain her blood into a Temple service vessel; cut off her arms, legs, and head; cut the torso in sections, remove her entrails and wash them; pour, sprinkle, and smear her blood at prescribed points around the altar; and burn the flesh. Or of course, a priest might do this for him.
Murder6Da6devil6Bush 2 years ago