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  • OMG! You should have two archers, hero and many many wisps by 2:40

    This is not good at all.

  • n00b i could win you with a hand in my back

  • lol silly nub

  • you dont BUILD a hero, YOU TRAIN IT , dumbass.

  • all heroes in w3 can creep a green point themselves... man u r noob -_-' +1 nunongmacau: fail nelf start

  • Idiot! Start 5 wisp go mining , train as many as you can to harvest.. . if you have the resource to make moon well. Make it ASAP, after making 3 MW,Make a hunter's hall. Make Altar ( princess of the moon ( aura )) make x2 Ancient of war then spam archer. While training archer upgrade their upgrades at the hunter hall.

  • so... Where's the good start?

  • Why do people play crappy music and overlay text in tutorial videos instead of simply commenting vocally as to what they are doing?

  • only the noobs share their builds.

  • when your altar completes "build" a demon hunter.

  • Seriously, any start works. I personally have achieved success on a huge amount of starts BUT this one is a very successful one and in the lower brackets which I am in (L14), you will win 60% of the times. You don't need to use Demon Hunter. My fav hero is the Warden and I use it alot. but Demon Hunter is a good choice for a beginner. I advice not using Keeper though. Far too vulnerable. On the video: 2 Moon wells, then don't build anything else. Wait for tech.

  • Totaly wrong, if u build like that u never come ladder top 10.

    u even nop use mc, dp or hot keys, that is noob stuff.

    Why do u incist make noob huntress from start?

    insteed of poa and tech.

    Then hit and run 2 times with 3 archers, then u creep and tech is finish, then u go hippo, dry, tal or what u wanna.

    But gl in your next games

  • @TheHardstylepreacher I thinks is funny how r u giving advice on a 3 year old video xD

  • best in the vid is the music ...

  • very slow, are u nood????

  • why do u have the huntress hall built so early? It's just sitting there without any AOW's up to build huntresses yet. you might as well build them at the same time. you're gonna get tower rushed.

  • lol i started playing wc3 today and my build gets me hero +2 huntresses when the night comes which is incredibly better than this, + single-colored screen makes my eyes hurt

  • please change the title to " Fail Night Elf Start "

  • @NunoNgMacau we know that you´re soo good at wc3 and make it better then anyone BUT keep in mind that this vid is 3 years old and even the biggest noob will be a skilled player after them, so let them make their own experiences in losing

  • "Best Night Elf Start "  FAIL

  • stop with this silly colours -.-

  • I don't think Huntresses are that great of a unit and I wouldn't mass them. Their range is terrible and they aren't that powerful. Best part about them is their Sentinel Ability. Put owls at gold mine locations, in your base or other key points on the map.

  • Great base blockoff. So much time was wasted here constructing buildings. No doubt the enemy was out killing creeps b4 u were.

  • @davebautista1 hes a noob

  • @Vocizo Here is what works for me...4 Wisps to Gold, 5th builds Altar. 6th Wisp builds Moon well, 7th and 8th Wisps to Wood. 9th Wisp builds Ancient of War. Next Wisp goes to Wood. When Altar is finished Wisp goes to gold. When Moon well is finished, Wisp goes to Wood. Use either your 10th or 11th Wisp to build 2nd Moonwell. When Ancient of War is complete build a few archers. Now you can build another Ancient of War to mass archers or build a Hunter's Hall for huntresses or upgrades.

  • @davebautista1 You should AoW creep on most maps, and a lot of the time you can start your tech before you put your hunter's hall up.

  • @Vocizo I've never seen someone AOW creep B4. Let's say u are playing the Lost Temple map. Would a good strategy be to build your 1st AOW near your closest gold mine and then kill the creeps there with the AOW and hero? Then go early expansion? Only problem with the AOW creeping is that you can't build any units while doing it. But I imagine you build a 2nd AOW to do so...Am I right?

  • @davebautista1 I usually only build one, unless when i scout i see that he is rushing. Lost temple is a map i have trouble with. Dont build AoW to close otherwise it will aggravate creeps. I usually just harass with demon hunter until i get tier 2, and expand when it feels right. I don't like spending a lot of time at tier 1, unless i have too.

  • @Vocizo I tried this on 2 maps (Plunder Isle and Lost Temple) against an ez comp and I found out that AOW creeping is difficult and the risk outweighs the gain. You are so vulnerable doing this and it is ez to screw up. This might work against bad players, but any good player will see your naked base and go to town on you. Most of the time I run my DH around the map and have gotten many ez wins from guys building towers near my base or near creeps. The DH and 2-3 archers can do the same job

  • i think... too slow huntress

  • that's noob start ;) 

  • whats the song called?

  • @AJWpwn Pendulum - Propane Nigthmares

    this is a very famous song btw

  • what if opponent rushes? kill them with Hunter's Hall??

  • omg billion wisps.He act like wisps are winning fights not army

  • your fucking bad.......

  • nOOb.

    I lost my time watching this crap

  • y it works if the enemie is noob and dont attck you bevore

  • I think this is a build order for play against CPU...

  • u forgot to use the wisps for map control

  • 3:24 build a glaive thrower? um, if you dont know the names of the units your using. please do us all a favor and dont make anymore wc3 vids. at least untill you get good enough to learn the names of the units your making. (people play for a few years and think their good when true pros have been playing since roc 10 years ago [me])

  • @oGxLoKxBTA so one, he can't make vids because he accidentally messes up on a unit name...and two, are you a self-acclaimed pro, or are you in the major leagues. Also, it doesn't take 10 years to get pro at this game, maybe for some people. I'm not saying im pro, but atleast be nicer to people.

  • @oGxLoKxBTA duhh.. whats the big deal?

    let him call it whatever he wants...

  • pendulum rocks! =D

    and so do ur vids 8D!

    ^^

  • nice jaja

  • i lov eyou guys flaming on youtube and tellin gbullshit like this.

    thats why wc3 died, u got no idea of gaming and thats why i dont get payed for playing wc3 anymore.

  • ^^ noobs talk with noobs about a noob video and whos the bigger noob in here X.x ^^

    i love it :D

  • Mistakes:

    0:00-0:13 is perfect

    now...

    1. Untie 1 wisp from gold mine and send to chop trees

    2. When you get 40 lumber---> send the wisp to build Ancient of War. And continue wisp training+ moon wells

    3. 1:20!!!!! Hunters Hall!!??? No!!!!

    4. Are you convinced demon Hunter is the right choice?

    5. 3:20---> you have still only one hero in your base:))))))

    Try to concentrate on training troops than simming :)

  • lol i dont think you want any other hero as NE doesn't matter who you are facing against NE's illidan is prolly best to gay out all the early summons like am, and annoying samuro. and the theif arthas who like to coil your neutrals. if your opponent build any other hero not mentioned about they are fucked early no question. there is almost like no doubt that you can not survive early without those gay ass heroes.

  • you are a fucking noob

  • WHNE is your altar complete?

  • WORST TACTIC EVER AHAHhahhhhhhhh always creep with AOW at start or else u suck:S

  • Stop uploading garbage like this...... holy shit... u suck

  • this is not good!

  • You should build ancient of war close to creep camp so it can tank it... But nice start

  • i tried this 3 times and i lose^^.. 3 times :D

  • Train Keeper of the Grove...his the best hero in my opinion...

  • @SileentKilleer agains BM its gg for you

  • music is awful

  • noob game, you could be rushed whithout army at begining lol

  • @ChuckJesusNorris is u the noob

  • noob video -.-

  • @yashko89 then why are you watching it

  • @randomcheezyMcmuffin Maybe he didnt know it was a noob video you idiot! :)

    I hate guys like him, but at least come up with a good comeback ;)

  • song?

  • dude make alot of hunters then find the base just upgrade ur base to dragons, then attack with all the hunters + hero and let them die. when ur done send in ur dragons to destroy the base (start at back of base) xtreamly good way

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  • actually u dont have to make that moon well so early, you can do it with your first wisp that u buy.

  • okey demon hunter..........in my opinion you can choose between warden and demon hunter i prefer warden as first hero for my play style and second hero moon priest^^

  • This is a "I'm not rushing" build. Wouldn't use this build if i was harassing early.

  • Lol fail mass hunts best u could do

  • i h8 that u change the colors

  • i never thought about that strat =p

  • @rug5000 seriously?

  • Not even close to the best opener.

  • why demon hunter

  • @Darkraht demon hunter is best for defense against early rushes, like the blademaster.

  • @Darkraht He´s strong and hurt a lot when he get to lv 6 but warden is good aswell:)

  • good song, bad tactic, very slow... So many fuckin whisps-.- I d like to harras u^^

  • what does it mean to creep?

  • Mass Hunts is very effective....this method of doing so is not. the right way is yes, get your moon well and alter;however, then you should save for wood up to 160 and build AofW and HH at the same time...followed by a moon well.. followed by another AofW...the rest is mass hunts and moon wells.. get potm with aura for hero, upgrade at least the attack for hunts.... i

  • songg? =]

  • mass noob

    building stuff like that is stupid way too much archers

    could get you killed fast

  • OMG you are such a noob

  • why you build huntress'es ..? they are affective against building not for killing..

    my method is that i build few archers and when i upgrade tree to second level i build building that has hypongriph riders ( dunno name of building) and put archers on it... i think in little time you have good army like mine?? dont you think so... my first option was never huntress'es, actually i never ever built them.

  • @tigarNVTS ancient of lore?

  • 3 minutes later. Fail.

  • @MasterTaiki you mean 3 minutes before fail :).

  • By the time you get your hunts you will be dead to anyone good. Slow strat IMO

  • stop hating if u think ur build is better make a video and upload it

  • the isnt the BEST start, ok demon hunter is the best hero cause he can creep alone because of fireburn but with my tactics i have the first hunter complete a few seconds before the demonhunter is complete and that without stopping producing whisps but this start isnt bad 4 real it just isnt the BEST ^^ greetings from german

  • Wow very smart getting all that in 4 minutes and 13 seconds....But what if the enemy attacks u wif heaps of units?

  • Rofl your mass hunt build suck mine is 2x faster

  • It depends, because for some tactics wood is more important than gold in the first 5 minutes. Also buliding a moonwell 30 seconds later makes no difference in the speed of producing units yet gives you an extra 10 wood. Same story for hunters hall. Think about it, we are talking really early game here. Every wood counts.

  • if i were u.. ill fill gold mine with 5 first then the 1st built wisp make moon well then altar for next wisp then all wood

  • u need PoTM for this strat..

  • moonwell a little too early

  • PPFFFFT its never "too" early for a moonwell that way you can spam the crap out of your ancient of wars so you would have all these men really fast at the start of the game tho i think people that dont are noobs but thats jsut me

  • when the other player will scout he will rush and it's already gg this sux man

  • low u need wood with nightelf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!omg 2gold| 2 altar, moon| 1wisp rekruit with him build tree of war!!!!!

  • very low....

  • hm, this might work only on PC oponent or very low skiled players or total nobz who dont creep much nor scout map and enemy base, but if orc or human rush u, no chance how to counter it with this ur build order.

  • How you know what this is the best tactic?

  • Shouldnt go below 4 on gold mine.

  • Song Name?

  • @Cold94DFA Pendulum - Propane Nightmares

  • If the enemy will make rush with this begin strategy u are lose...

  • but don't you want to start creeping as fast as possible?

  • 1.Altar 2.moonwell 3.Ancient of war 4.Demon Hunter 5.Archers 4-5.More whisps on gold mine and on wood 6.2 moonwell 7.Upgrade base 8.more archers and huntress 9. keep playing until you win Very bad start is to slow
  • Awesome, start I use this all the time for Night Elves except I only build one Ancient of War but I'll try two, thanks.

  • what program do you use to record ingame... pls post me

  • don't need any program.

    after a game you can click on save replay. and it's done to watch:)

  • jesus fukken christ...what a bad bo.

    protip: hh and aow have the same building time.

  • Rarely comment but had to on this. This is a terrible start. What kind of tard actually clicks on buttons instead of using keys?

  • @vernymax Maybe he clicks them just to show it to viewers that what he's doing.. i think that you are the tard ;)

  • 1: moon well 2:barracks 3:3 archers 4: altar 5 illidan 6: uppg. tree 7:2more moon well 8:4 "rider" 9:2 arrow shooting things with weels xD sorry but i don't now the name of the stuffs in wc3 xD 10: attack ^^
  • i prefer 5 wisps in gold mine then spawn 3 wisps.

    1st wisp: Altar 2nd: moon well

    3rd: barracks

  • very bad start.

  • I eat people who start like this for breakfast

  • very bad start -.-

  • lol

  • damn you're obsessed with pendulum for wc3 videos lol.

  • lol

  • @TheGannon81 Damn good song though ^_^

  • lol nice start, i play NE just like you, and of course this is a great start

    anyway, 5/5 the song is awesome, is one of my favorites :3

    and dont hear this whinners here, they are just noobs that prefer to make a random acient of war alone on the middle of the map instead to make a real and valid strategy lol

  • u should rename it to worst night elf start :|

  • lol this is a noob tac...Dont use it!

  • bro this is a good strategy but u used it totally wrong. like normal u build a altar and moonwell and then if u get 5 wisps in goldmine sent the next wisps to wood and after u got 160 wood build Huntershall and AoW not huntershall and wait for 40wood and then build a moonwell .....

  • Mass hunters = noob

    dont follow his idea its a noob playing

  • Yea. Huntress cannot attack air units. I use mass Huntress AND Archers.

  • my 8yo cousin has more apm ^^

  • no waypoints , sad BO , too much time wasted .. not really the best start ;)

  • soooo SLOW

  • a good scout could of easily ownd you :/

  • is not always the best unless ur a noob or facing a noob...

  • Ehh an ok start. Watch Pro Replays, you will see the fastest start possible there.

  • i think night elves is the best defender because they have moon wells near them.

  • mass hunters = game noob

  • @snowwbuuuuuuu

    game noob = everytime noob

  • a very slow start

  • I start similar, but get the aow with the first wisp that is getting lumber. Without you can be easyly rushed by uds and humans.

  • many videos as this one , only noobs ;P

  • no scouting :-P evryone who recognizes this would rush and ... GG

  • name of the song?? lol good vid

  • The song is in the credits..

  • u ppl are being so mean. wtf did he do to you. so what you can rush and beat him. i know warcraft is fun and all but ur freaking arguing about A STRATEGY!!! but mcrr00ster u sorta overdid it saying it was best.

  • that was a crapy guild i should take you out in 5 min max + noob basebuild takeing to long for spawn units .. but gg anyway

  • I see that many people say that a rush would ruin this tactic,,, but the thing is that a archmage and footies rush wouldn't work since the water elements will die to detonate and archmage's mana will be burned and then human won't do any damage.. A orc rush with bm for that matter wouldn't work either since orc are so dam slow and bm's mana will be burned and the elfs are quite protected... So bottom line it's a good tactic however I would build a ancient of war close to a orange creepspawn

  • What are you talking about? A rush would devastate him as those wisp would be his much needed wood and you dont need a lot of damage to take out a moon well, altar, or barracks before he even has a chance to push you out. IF he can push you out before you wreck his base so bad its already game.

  • Why do people build Ancient of War by creeps? I've seen it done a few times now, whats the entire strategy and reasoning for this?

  • so they can use it to creep with. (uproot it)

  • for green creep spawn? why not just use an archer and dh?

  • it saves moon well mana because an AOW can heal with trees

  • And so this is really worth the time the AOW isn't making units? I would have thought it was just better to use that time to make a couple more units. What am I doing instead of making those early units?

  • the ancient of war is not only a good attacker, but it can also heal by eating trees, which NEVER get used up by elfs (wisp harvesting), so it can constantly heal. Also, its saves the moon well water for later on in the game, when healing with the well can make or break a game

  • the health it gains by eating trees is too little, it gains much more when it just roots down, he basically gets full life in seconds

  • @hezhiwen maybe its cus ur gay

  • a rush will completely destroy that. i generally build 2 wisps, make a moonwell and alter, then when the first wisp finishes i'll use it to build an ancient of war. my strategy varies a lot from there.

  • whats the best  lords for night elfs? messega me back please

  • lords of night elves?

  • i think he means hero. demon hunter seems to be the most popular to start with, but all of them work. i think most people choose demon hunter because its kind of an anti-hero unit, thanks to its mana burn. and everyone knows a hero with out mana is no where near as good as a hero with mana. some more so than others.

  • i think he mean Heros. Warden is my Favourite, it´s funny to kite other People :D

  • noob, before build ancient of war (near creeps).

    and later build the Hunter's hall.

  • took so long to make AoW, better make one before second moon well...

  • good guide. But i would tower rush this build so easily. :)

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  • nice help for noobs :) u can win some games with mass hunts^^

  • and what exactly is pro there?

    thats called "jump to huntresses" every Nelf can that -.-'

  • its just a tutorial to help people (noobs) get the basic build order.

  • y but then write somewhere huntress rush thats no proper start o_0

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