Civil Disobedience and Christians

[HalLindseyVideosPlus]

COME AND BE BLESSED.

[fylfot1]

I like much of what is said in this video. It's a shame the Manhattan is so conservative in other areas, like opposing gay marriage. Also, perhaps Timothy George misunderstands what anarchism is. Anarchism and Christianity seem like a perfect marriage, but unfortunately Christianity has been infected with ideas of cosying up to states and empires since the days of Rome. I recommend Leo Tolstoy and Dorothy Day as inspiring examples of Christian anarchism.

[timothyjames24]

Christian brothers and sisters we are wrong on this issue. We must choose love not hate and bring marriage and equality to all who want it. Lets us bring our gay brothers and sisters in with open arms instead of telling them there is no room at the inn. It does not matter who you love as long as you do love. May God open the fundamentalists to the loving side of this issue. We have hidden our hatreds behind "hate the sin love the sinner" for too long.

[w14fs]

I have great empathy with the Declaration but listening to the tape reminded me of the muslims who create their version of "Civil Disobedience"

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[gfreakj]

AMEN! My spine is stiffened. I will NOt back down . I will not resort to violence or anarchy but I will not compromise my beliefs for anyone or any government. I am willing to pay the price to stand up for what is right. Thank you so much for posting this. I am spreading the word.

[kamanu47]

Civil disobedience contradicts, the context of leaving onto Caesar what is Caesar's. One of the primary founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson recognized that religious belief was a private matter. Now I realize that many Christians have issues with TJ because of his Unitarian views, but he was a staunch supporter of all religious views; protected by, but not advocated by the government. So you choose to advocate civil disobedience against the very government that protects your freedom to worship

[masterkeep]

@kamanu47 If they choose to limit religion to only what happens in a church building or less then they are not protecting but restricting true freedoms. If I cannot say what the Scriptures say the government has forgotten the constitution and the rule of law.  Thomas Jefferson's statement that religion is a private matter was to Public acknowledgement of belief [ex. a national call to prayer] not to any limitation on an individual's public profession of faith.

[burstpuff]

stop fearing your god and embrace love instead

[TH21JS]

Newsflash - Not everyone believes what you do. Deal with it please.

[ExplorersJourney]

you waste your life, when you bring the nonexistent god into the conversation

[audionautix]

Amazing. You rail against the forces that would stifle your freedom of speech, yet you censor these comments and only allow those you deem appropriate. You want freedom for your self but not others, which isn't freedom at all. God says it rains on the just and the unjust. That's how God's liberty works.

[lifeseeker51]

It is interesting to note that Jesus did not speak out against Rome. Only the religious leaders in the temple drew His ire. You see,in spite of all the hardship placed on the people of Judea by Rome,Rome was not preventing them from living righteously before God. However, the example set by the scribes and pharisees,did prevent this. This video is a political statement,not a spiritual one. Let the Christian viewer beware.

[redfistaor]

Start paying taxes like everyone else in America and I will care about encroachment. You have...1st amendment freedom of religion, tax free status, sway in matters of politics, education, government and society, yet you still cry whenever the government asks anything of you.

[SwaloMyLode]

Oh yes....Censorship an a freedom vid...I might have guessed.

[Dewdaahman]

amen and amen..

[lmcdowall]

It is the christians who are against freedom of religion. None of you people follow the word of christ.

[Pharaoh1969]

@lmcdowall "A" MEN" John 10:34, Psalms 82:6. We are what we profess to believe in and must declare our birthrights before Ceaser! We must begin our journey to regain our rightful place on the planet. (Genesis 3:22). We msut begin to be in the "IMAGE" and "LIKENESS" of our creator in every way.

"Civil Dis-obediance" is the only non-violent solution as MLK, Ghandi, Dali Lama and many others have shown us throughout time. Our time has come, to prepare the way.

[ObowMao666]

@lmcdowall ... Christians are not against freedom of religion. We're against false religions that preach and practice hatred, such as Islam.

[Zentz29]

@ObowMao666 That is basically the definition of being against freedom of religion.

[Zentz29]

@ObowMao666 "Christians are not against freedom of religion. We're against false religions that preach and practice hatred, such as Islam"

According to that statement, you're against EVERY religion. Pretty much EVERY religion has people who preach & practice hatred. Including christianity.

Also, according to christian doctrine, ALL religions except christianity ARE false religions. So I guess you're against any religion except christianity unless the christian church preachs hate.

[jetbtkng]

tax churches like every other bussiness, there in for the money, what a scam..........

[Pennee101]

I'm gay and I want to marry the love of my life but you people are fighting to stop me from being able to do that. Because your Bible says so. Well what about my Bible? My religion celebrates my union and you are trying to rip it apart. If Christians want to know why they are being "persecuted" they should rip out the planks in their eyes before they try and rip apart other people.

[lwr113]

the problem with your interpeting the laws, is that other religions dispute other laws you find dear. Please note that historically the religious were martyered not by athiests but by other religious. While you claim the moral right to disobey the law, you must accept that we as a society have to punnish you, not because of your religion, but because you put yourself above the law-one law for all.

[freesk8]

Disobedience to tyranny is obedience to God.

Massachusetts Governor Simon Bradstreet after the overthrow of Dominion of New England Governor Edmund Andros in relation to the "Glorious Revolution" of 1688

"Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's." is not meant to mean that we should do whatever the govt wants us to do. Jesus was holding a gold coin with Caesar's image on it. Jesus was suggesting a boycott of the Roman currency, which would have devalued it. This was a peaceful, revolutionary act.

[Pkr]

Yes, I agree with Colson... if the government did not support Christianity, Christianity would not exist today.... Christianity relies on the government control over its people for success...

[MagnesDrachen13]

I will never sign anything that says one group of people is different from another, period. Marriage is now a secular engagement and should be treated as such. You're either for equality or you're not. There is no middle ground on this. I am for equality and I don't apologize for that.

[kevlarunderware]

churches are beholden to the state via 501 c 3

[jx14aby]

What about infant male genital mutilation as a religious practice?

Not only is the practice excruciatingly painful, with god-only-knows what adverse sexual development consequences, but it deprives the person of that very freedom you are championing. The freedom of a human being to chose their own religion.

[Brezable]

Take In god we trust from the money first, then we'll talk.

[SuperJoeAnonymous]

No kingdom but THE Kingdom. Christians are hypocrites. They should have been protesting sanctity of life issues for each and every war the US has engaged in through out it's history.

[pyr666]

comment approval, really?

[BlindLed]

2Ti 2:4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

1Jo 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

[vegasOasis]

Religion is like a virus

[boognishishere]

Doesn't it say somewhere in The Bible that God commands to obey the laws of the land in which one lives? What makes an unjust law? Btw, there is no answer to these kinds of questions. You can try but you will never be correct.

[JOHNINCOLUMBUS]

When will people realize, religions are nothing but unfounded, unproven, unbelieveable man-made fairytales.

[SandraBullcocked]

Whats the news on Christians allowing gay marriage? Has that changed lately? I was hoping that Milk movie might get to you guys and maybe tone down the lobbyist money to keep up the fight against it.

[StylinRed]

extremism with a veil of innocence

[brooksjedi]

the churches should be taxed

[Lentenlands]

I agree Chuck, un-Constitutional law is no law at all. We have an America that has been hijacked by rich influential international globalists, paid off political hacks and Courts with lawless judges that have broken their oath of fidelity to the US Constitution.

These are perilous times and We the People are waking up.

Thank you and may God bless you Chuck.

[santitos2001]

If you don't believe in a RELIGION all of this is a waste of time. We should do what's right, whether our religion think is right or wrong. God is not own by anyone but those that want to impose their beliefs on others.

[CaliforniaJon]

Thank you for reminding us to fear God more than we fear the government or political correctness, Chuck. God bless you and your family.

[taamlams]

Chuck, keep up the good work, God Bless

[reflect7]

"If you will protest courageously, and yet with dignity and Christian love, when the history books are written in future generations, the historians will have to pause and say, 'There lived a great people...who injected new meaning and dignity into the veins of civilization.'" (Martin Luther King, Dec 31, 1955)

[Loathomar]

@reflect7 Yes, those people, like Martin Luther King, who fight for the oppressed minorities, blacks in MLK's time and guys today, are often look option as "great people" by the history books. I know Christians like to think they are "under attack" by government, but with a congress that is over 90% Christian, that seem a bit ridiculous. The rights of many don't generally need protecting, it is the few who get their rights trampled.

[CLSMaestroView]

Timothy George is one of the most brilliant men on the globe. We all know that Thomas Jefferson never served as president of the U.S.

[ColsonCenter]

@CLSMaestroView: Actually he was...he was our third President and served from 1801-1809.

[CLSMaestroView]

Oops! Sorry about that. 

[ColsonCenter]

@CLSMaestroView: quite alright, God Bless!

[Loathomar]

@CLSMaestroView So, who was the was the third President of the United States? Shouldn't you claim that he was a principal author of the Declaration of Independence, too? Was he also not the first United States Secretary of State and second Vice President of the United States? Rewriting history is funny...

[liversaid]

@CLSMaestroView

I appreciate the irony.

[redfistaor]

@CLSMaestroView WOW!

[angelgabby]

@CLSMaestroView He sure was. But the quote is Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom, but this guy makes it sound like he also said Eternal vigilance is the cost of religious freedom, which is not Jefferson's quote. This is a typical type of associative propaganda.

[theR0nin]

@kntvwebster: Why should churches give up their non-profit status, and allow the government to take part of the money that the members have given to God? Many churches struggle to meet their operating costs as it is. This would be giving to Caesar what is God's.

As long as liberal churches are allowed to preach in support of liberal politicians from their pulpits, there is no reason to "relinquish" non-profit status. We must simply teach the truth; and demand the first amendment be followed.

[justbiz1]

@theR0nin

Understand that a tax upon the church is merely a tax upon her members, not unlike tax upon business or corporations. So long as church property and inventory is taxed equally with all other entities there is no slight or injustice to our faith. Release your grip on earthly possessions and render unto "Caesar" that which he demands.

God is concerned with spiritual things, and so should we be. Don't make a struggle over filthy lucre the center of your contentions

[joebell2010]

@theR0nin Nothing in the First Amendment or the Constitution generally protects a church from taxation per se. It is merely a history of favorable treatment from state governments that has allowed us to have our tax exempt status. And if, in the holding of that status, some churches have chosen money over truth, that is too low a price at which to sell one's soul. Jesus took a coin from the mouth of a fish to pay the tax. Let him worry about the taxes. Our duty is faithfulness to the truth.

[ColsonCenter]

@theR0nin: Do not forget that it is a privilege for the government to have self-less ministries and churches out there doing good work at no cost to the government. I don't see too many non-believers out there helping the poor, feeding the hungry, and clothing the naked. The Church has picked up the slack of society and is compensated for it by exempting them from some taxes. I think you've got it backwards when it comes to who should be thankful.

[Tommy19911229]

@ColsonCenter you are talking about non-believers not helping out. But i don't see the church come up with a medicine for cancer etcetera. And the crusades weren't really friendly either. Let's just accept that no way of life is perfect and accept each other for who we are, not for what we believe in. Peace.

[BeeAre]

@ColsonCenter Is it really true that all charity must be directly religiously inspired? Does it really matter that God must be mentioned in the parceling of goods to individuals requiring those goods to maintain a livelihood? I would need to see several statistics on the cumulative effects of BOTH religious and secular institutions dedicated to charity to even BEGIN to form such a sweeping and damning implication such as "I don't see the Church/non-believers helping the poor/hungry/naked". :)

[usethisspamname]

@ColsonCenter,

That's a bold statement.

Look inside your own ranks and you will find non-believers working side by side with religious institutions for the betterment of our society.

If we're making bold statements, I would make the statement that you are straight up wrong. If religion did not exist, the benevolent non-profit would continue to exist and be fruitful.

BTW I see non-believers out there EVERY day helping the poor, feeding the hungry, and clothing the naked. No religion needed