im american and i live in france and for music class we have to watch this and i can't find all 8 different instruments at the beginning can someone help me?
I want to thank the person who posted these segments--it's amazing to see these scenes filmed on location! Does anyone know where one can obtain this film with these English subtitles in America? Thanks again.
"Oversimplifying?" I don't think so. More people were tortured and burnt at the stake or drawn & quartered during a monarchy in the 17th Century than were during the beginning years of the American Republic.
In a monarchy(dictatorship) the average person's only purpose is to serve the "state", in whatever capacity, and that purpose is no longer desired or needed, that person is "disposed" of. Those ARE historical facts, not just my opinion.
The choice is "simple?" Totalitarianism makes edicts demanding creativity on its own standards or Democracy where nothing is demanded or expected and therefore mediocrity reigns supreme? It's just a matter of which you are willing to sacrifice. The Egyptians built the pyramids, the Romans built roads, Louis XIV built Versailles and created the artistic standard but ALL at the price of personal freedoms and in most cases through literal slavery.
Ever hear of the "French Revolution?" By 1789 the French people had enough of paying higher and higher taxes so that the monarch and his crowd could party-party. Yes, great works of art and music were created but at the expense of the average person having enough to eat daily. Despotism. Irony is that we all have our freedom today but nothing is being created that'll last such a length of centuries. With freedom, mediocrity seems to be the new standard.
@Wotansrabe666 way to take my point and change it to something completely different. maybe if you weren't so wordy you wouldn't lose track of the conversation so easily..
@Wotansrabe666 Considering what Louis himself did to the Huguenots, it's a miscarriage of justice to call rhxthm a barbarian for being cynical about the excesses of European nobility.
@Wotansrabe666 lol the world has never been in perfect order you twat, and have fun with your dreams of shitty medical treatments, inconveniences, and poor quality of life for 95% of the world's population
@ticrak1 FOr the nobles it wasn't either if they had the bad luck to get some bad disease or even several of them. Handel didn't have an easy time at all for example.
@am3lya LOL. Yea. Back then there was no war, hunger or disease. Everybody was equal & wealthy. Monarchs were benevolent & didn't care about money, (freely giving away all they had & opening their palaces to all), or power (they were there to serve, not rule, the people). For the very few unlucky people that did occasionally get sick, monarchs could heal with just a glance, which was fortunate considering there was no anesthesia. Open sewers were not a problem, since they flowed with wine.
@Jitpring Sure.....OK. Whatever that means. I have no idea what you're talking about. At least I'm not alone, because apparently you don't either, LOL.
@gjc82071 That is, like most today, you've been processed to believe, unquestioningly, in the myth of progress and are thus yet another chronological snob.
@Jitpring If you say so. My initial comment said only that life was not perfect 350 year ago either. If that makes me a "snob".......then whatever. Fuck it. I am a snob because it's not a perfect world. Yea....OK. That makes a lot of sense. You're an idiot child. You know nothing about history. Apparently you know nothing about your own time era either. So In that sense, your opinions/comments are completely worthless.
@gjc82071 sorry to butt in your argument but at that time people didn't realize the misery. They do a lot more now. They only started realizing around the enlightenment for france.. :)
No apologies are necessary & it wasn't really an argument per say. It was just some moron making irrelevant comments. So....what you said sounds somewhat unbelievable. I don't follow your logic. What do you mean, they didn't realize the misery? Of course they did! Why on earth wouldn't they? There were peasant revolts all through the middles ages & they suffered the same way we do. Do you think that innocent French peasants didn't feel misery from the effects of the English chevauchée?
@Wotansrabe666 eh not really.... i mean some things were better but there was no medicine, bad glasses, no toothpaste everything balances out in the end
Your ethos appeal, Mr. Historian, diminishes quite significantly when one learns of your fondness for Adolf Hitler and your general inclinations toward Neo-Nazism.
Your ethos appeal, Mr. Historian, diminishes quite significantly when one learns of your fondness for Adolf Hitler and your general inclinations toward Neo-Nazism.
Perfect order? Do you not know that people (peasants) were dying left and right during these times of so called "perfect order"? Why do you think the 18th century equivalent of Paris Hilton at Versailles said "let them eat cake"? The bimbo was not even aware that her country did not have a slice of bread to eat, nevertheless cake.
@thecritiquevirtuoso How dare you compare a trasy slut like Paris Hilton to Marie Antoinette, historians now agree that Marie Antoinette never said 'let them eat cake' it was her enemies who started this false rumour and of course they would say anything to discredit her
@Wotansrabe666 Definitely wasn't in perfect order - I'd imagine it was much harder to live back then than it is today. It's easy to say these things from our perspective, because we live in comfort today, back then MOST people had to work their butts off just to survive - medicine was also pretty bad, etc...
Ich will ja nix sagen aber echtmal wie dumm muss man sein sich einen Taktstab in den Fuß zu rammen,und welche Idiot macht die Dinger überhaubt unten spitz???
@TobiOpfa Nun, das mit dem Taktstab kann jedem passieren, oder hast du dir noch nie mit dem Hammer den Daumen beim Bildaufhängen zum Schnitzel gekloppt ;-)? Aber mit der messerscharfen Spitze da unten hast du recht. Solche Fehlkonstruktionen gibt's heute auch. Nur damals konnte eine an sich harmlose Stichverletzung schon ne böse Tetanusinfektion mit sich bringen, die mangels Antibiotika nicht so ohne weiteres auszukurieren war.
@NkotbJoeyJordanFan They did'nt ,He came to an end by a curious incident. It happened while conducting a Te Deum, on January 8, 1687, that just was performed to cure the king to celebrate after an illness. Lully used when conducting a long stick that he hit the ground. Accidentally, he hit his foot so hard that he was seriously wounded. According to legend he was the gangrene infection. This resulted in his death on March 22 of that year.
Although I am not as dedicated as you are to "an order where God rules supreme" since I believe in secular society I loved the part when you said "Apart from religion, beauty, art and all other things that feed the soul, and make life worth living are the truly important factors". "The Sun King was a representative of a miriad of colours" in the movie maybe but he was also self-centered and didn`t care about the starving peasants while he was busy dancing and pampering himself.
I know what you mean and although I don't think materialism in itself is evil, people depend too much on it and there is an excess of apathy. Still I think Christians as a whole are far more enlightened today. In XVIII century France the clergy was very tyrannical and preyed on the masses rather than helping them. Don`t get me wrong I`m christian too, read the bible, etc... but the Church in many ways was corrupt and wasn`t exactly following the word of Christ back then.
Yeah, sure, if you're royalty, a nobleman, part of the clergy or bourgeois. If you're part of the the Tiers Etat (basically everyone else: peasants, farmers, workers, regular folks) you're pretty much screwed. And even if you're part of the elite it's still better to be alive today. Even if you're part of the low income class you still have access to much better medical treatments and technologies than the king of France could have ever imagined.
This masonic movie shows a clearly misogyny in the most filthy way but at the same time followed with an homosexual uncorresponded love, maybe because Joan Baptiste do the same with his wife, and there enter the famous phrase: "anything you do, it come back to you 77 times 7"....maybe that's why he screwed his own life
@Wotansrabe666 Are you crazy? Yes, their arts were far better than our bowl of shite today but how can you wish to live then when in the opening scene they are amputating a passionate idiot's leg because the histrionic fool punctured his hoof with a poker.Ha ha, Im glad he did it! You wouldnt want to live then w starvation,gross ignorance,disease and living conditions.
@chelseagurl97 That only applies to the peasantry. And even then, I'd far prefer 17th century peasantry to membership in the negligent consumerist masses of the 21st century. Peasants were content with their place in life, led by God and King. Today, people are lazy slaves to materialism and secularism. And don't try to talk about disease and living conditions: it's a non-argument. It's nonsensical to judge history by modern standards.
@ComtedeTourville Nobody was or ever will be content with their place in life least of all the peasants,examples-the Jacquerie and the English Peasant Revolt of 1381.
@chelseagurl97 Both of those were caused by the class displacement resulting from the Hundred Years' War. Of course if government structure is destroyed, revolt will likely occur. If the state was stable, such as that of Louis XIV's, peasants were wholly complacent. This all changed after the French Revolution, in which the disgruntled bourgeoisie perpetuated the myth of aristocratic tyranny in riling the urban workers. Even then, many rural peasants supported the status quo (e.x., the Vendée).
@ComtedeTourville Well, WHY would revolt occur if the peasants are so content? If the gov structure ruptured wouldnt the servants wait around passively until it was raised once more.And in the Jacquerie the peasantry took especially gruesome revenge on their so-called betters.
@mynameiztoree Maybe you didn't read my comment-- I said that IF the state was stable the peasants were content. If the government fails (i.e. in protecting its citizens) a revolt will naturally occur in order to either restructure the old government or establish a new one. Would the Jacquerie have occurred if the Hundred Years' War didn't destroy the foundations of the state? Absolutely not.
@ComtedeTourville When chelseaswirl first wrote 'You wouldnt want to live then w starvation,gross ignorance,disease and living conditions.' ,you replied ' That only applies to the peasantry.' Your 'that' was her 'starvation,gross ignorance. etc.' Now how could a peasant or anybody else be content with that? And even a modern janitor would be more learned,better fed,housed and doctored than most nobles.
@mynameiztoree By your reasoning, everyone before our time should have been terribly unhappy because of their relatively poorer living standards. But motivation to work and live has to come from somewhere, and it doesn't come from depression. People with your mindset in four hundred years will probably believe we were miserable for the same reasons, and they'll be as wrong as you are now. Clearly, you're in no position to judge the intelligence of nobles (or modern janitors, for that matter).
@jplully I know they didnt actually 'amputat' the leg, but they wanted to, as the best medical technology of the day prescribed. And though he died primarily from the infection, but it was really his overheated brains and his thinking that art and spry dancing legs have the upper hand on Life.
L'absolutisme est source de grandeur... N'en faites pas un portrait aussi noir. Admirez son faste et la splendeur des esprits qui en sont nés! Et comparez-les à la merde ordinaire de notre tous-les-jours. Il a peut-être ruiné l'économie, mais il a grandit les arts. Et les intellectuels français étaient si nombreux à l'époque du rayonnement du Roi Soleil qu'on pouvait se permettre de les censurer. Louis XIV était un nouveau Pisistrate.
Thank you very, very much for putting this movie into youtube. I've been looking for it and could't find (with english subtittles). Great movie, great music, I am only couriuse why the french people took german musicians (Goebbel and co.) to play such sensitive music. I like Goebbel in german stuff, but for Lully I'd prefer Savall or Rousset
This is what French call "magnifique" . Thank you for the movie. The actor for Luis quatorzieme was suitably chosen - his face embodies all the gloire of the absolutism in Grand Siecle and its legacy. My trip to Versailles in the beginning of October has pleased me. Luis is still there...
1) Who cares about.... those who suffered, Versailles is visited even more than Paris itself. 2) Moreover the Enlightment was the main reason of revolutionary failure of absolutism in the second half of the 18 th century, not Luis. Development of science and progress helped to understand people are equal. With Luis or without...
@romtscha The enlightment was not only the only cause of the revolution, Louis XIV and Louis XV had brougth the country serious debt, the enlightment was just a push in the back for the anti-monarchists and the suffering people of france, I don't know if it's fair when the clergic and the aristocrats don't have to pay almost no taxes and the poor people the most ; during the rain of Louis XIV , 1/7 had to beg on the streets to survive and my history book is laying in front of me .
I don´t approve absolutism at all. I just admire visually what Luis created as an art and enjoy to discover way how people were thinking in 17th or 18th century. There were many causes of revolution of course. But I love luis and versailles anyway.
I´m not politician and I don´t want absolutism back, it´s gone forever. But the buildings and music are just increadible for me. And also the male power of young Luis who was afraid of fronda from his chidlhood that´s why extablished such a strict style of government.
@romtscha And besides your talking crap, Versailles is not more visited than Paris , and you're immoral sins you approve the absolutisme which is just a fact of being stupid
@romtscha True . it dosen't matter. THose who suffered and those who brought suffering down have both stood before the judgment seat of Christ and have recived their due reward.
He ruined France even in reign: The wars of the Spanish and Palatine Succession were disastrous for France. His censor ship throw a good part of French intellectual elite out of the country.
Excellent call, I think the Querelle des Bouffons could make for a good, somewhat comic film about Rameau. However, not much is known about Rameau's life.
What we need is a good film about J.S. Bach... a well documented life with political , religious, and (especially) family issues.
Merci beaucoup! Ever since La Reine Margot (1994) and Jeanne la Pucelle I (Les batailles) & II (Les prisons) from 1994 too Le roi danse is one of the best historical movies made in France! The music of Lully is superb and the references too Moliere well done! I wonder why Corbiau was unable to make a good and entertaining movie about the religious wars in the 16th century between the Huguenots and Catholics; as his movie about them is boring a lot and quite wooden in its acting and scenery...
subtitulos en español por favor
radioconantena65 4 days ago
c très bien enblus g u peur
tounicoon 3 weeks ago
ce film est magnifique, merci de l'avoir mis en ligne !
ladypsssy 1 month ago
im american and i live in france and for music class we have to watch this and i can't find all 8 different instruments at the beginning can someone help me?
ForeverKittyLove 1 month ago
so hab was geiles entdeckt haha
YelenaSummerdi454 1 month ago
A great film and a great music !
yarr4444 2 months ago
you guys at the top should definitely read Eric Hobsbawm
dulcemex 3 months ago
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Subtitulos en Español Please
radioconantena65 4 months ago
I want to thank the person who posted these segments--it's amazing to see these scenes filmed on location! Does anyone know where one can obtain this film with these English subtitles in America? Thanks again.
shusarik 5 months ago
The world we escape to in movies like this brings much enjoyment and I really think that is what this person meant
shanierae1 5 months ago
C'est vraiment la Musiqua antiqua de Cologne sous Rheinhard Goebel qui joue la musique de Lully dans ce film? Dans ce cas: ou peut on acheter le DVD?
ichmalealsobinich 6 months ago
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C'est qui le monsieur musicien au début (celui à qui on coupe la jambe) ????
Vivaldi? Fontaine ? Qui est ?
PrincessMillenium 8 months ago
Peut etre devrais-je retirer ma question... Est-ce Lully en vieux ?
PrincessMillenium 8 months ago
@Wotansrabe666 easuer and happier? For the rich yeah. there was no middle class. i dont know what world you are living in
ZoomZip 9 months ago 2
@Wotansrabe666
"Oversimplifying?" I don't think so. More people were tortured and burnt at the stake or drawn & quartered during a monarchy in the 17th Century than were during the beginning years of the American Republic.
In a monarchy(dictatorship) the average person's only purpose is to serve the "state", in whatever capacity, and that purpose is no longer desired or needed, that person is "disposed" of. Those ARE historical facts, not just my opinion.
NorbertZF 9 months ago
@Wotansrabe666
The choice is "simple?" Totalitarianism makes edicts demanding creativity on its own standards or Democracy where nothing is demanded or expected and therefore mediocrity reigns supreme? It's just a matter of which you are willing to sacrifice. The Egyptians built the pyramids, the Romans built roads, Louis XIV built Versailles and created the artistic standard but ALL at the price of personal freedoms and in most cases through literal slavery.
NorbertZF 9 months ago
@Wotansrabe666
Ever hear of the "French Revolution?" By 1789 the French people had enough of paying higher and higher taxes so that the monarch and his crowd could party-party. Yes, great works of art and music were created but at the expense of the average person having enough to eat daily. Despotism. Irony is that we all have our freedom today but nothing is being created that'll last such a length of centuries. With freedom, mediocrity seems to be the new standard.
NorbertZF 10 months ago 2
Thank you so, so much. I originally watched with French subtitles, but still felt like I was missing a lot (I'm not fluent).
sugarandspice4815 10 months ago
thank you so much for post this video.
eliasthegreek 10 months ago
@Wotansrabe666 way to take my point and change it to something completely different. maybe if you weren't so wordy you wouldn't lose track of the conversation so easily..
rhxthm 10 months ago
@Wotansrabe666 well put
1377ana 11 months ago
@Wotansrabe666 Considering what Louis himself did to the Huguenots, it's a miscarriage of justice to call rhxthm a barbarian for being cynical about the excesses of European nobility.
mrgabest 11 months ago
@Wotansrabe666 lol the world has never been in perfect order you twat, and have fun with your dreams of shitty medical treatments, inconveniences, and poor quality of life for 95% of the world's population
rhxthm 11 months ago
@Wotansrabe666 Yeah, be lucky you don't have to live with all their diseases and except for the nobles endless poverty.
Gonnakillyou 1 year ago
@Wotansrabe666 not if you were born a peasant. For the nobles yes it was wonderful but not for the majority :(
ticrak1 1 year ago
@ticrak1 FOr the nobles it wasn't either if they had the bad luck to get some bad disease or even several of them. Handel didn't have an easy time at all for example.
Gonnakillyou 1 year ago
3:20 Ok so he hurt himself,what a noob
duongngocvuminh 1 year ago
Magnificernt story.
bootdriven 1 year ago
@Wotansrabe666 the world was in perfect order?
am3lya 1 year ago
@am3lya LOL. Yea. Back then there was no war, hunger or disease. Everybody was equal & wealthy. Monarchs were benevolent & didn't care about money, (freely giving away all they had & opening their palaces to all), or power (they were there to serve, not rule, the people). For the very few unlucky people that did occasionally get sick, monarchs could heal with just a glance, which was fortunate considering there was no anesthesia. Open sewers were not a problem, since they flowed with wine.
gjc82071 1 year ago 37
@gjc82071 In other words, you're yet another chronological snob.
Jitpring 3 months ago
@Jitpring Sure.....OK. Whatever that means. I have no idea what you're talking about. At least I'm not alone, because apparently you don't either, LOL.
gjc82071 3 months ago
@gjc82071 That is, like most today, you've been processed to believe, unquestioningly, in the myth of progress and are thus yet another chronological snob.
Jitpring 3 months ago
@Jitpring If you say so. My initial comment said only that life was not perfect 350 year ago either. If that makes me a "snob".......then whatever. Fuck it. I am a snob because it's not a perfect world. Yea....OK. That makes a lot of sense. You're an idiot child. You know nothing about history. Apparently you know nothing about your own time era either. So In that sense, your opinions/comments are completely worthless.
gjc82071 3 months ago
@gjc82071 sorry to butt in your argument but at that time people didn't realize the misery. They do a lot more now. They only started realizing around the enlightenment for france.. :)
AirallialeFay 3 months ago
No apologies are necessary & it wasn't really an argument per say. It was just some moron making irrelevant comments. So....what you said sounds somewhat unbelievable. I don't follow your logic. What do you mean, they didn't realize the misery? Of course they did! Why on earth wouldn't they? There were peasant revolts all through the middles ages & they suffered the same way we do. Do you think that innocent French peasants didn't feel misery from the effects of the English chevauchée?
gjc82071 3 months ago
faut vraiment etre con pour pour arriver à se planter un baton dans le pied...
justdadalove1 1 year ago
wann kommt der film endlich auf dvd in deutscher sprache ? ;-/
fozzy1977 1 year ago
@Wotansrabe666 eh not really.... i mean some things were better but there was no medicine, bad glasses, no toothpaste everything balances out in the end
drmgrl11 1 year ago
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@Wotansrabe666
Your ethos appeal, Mr. Historian, diminishes quite significantly when one learns of your fondness for Adolf Hitler and your general inclinations toward Neo-Nazism.
thecritiquevirtuoso 1 year ago
@Wotansrabe666
Your ethos appeal, Mr. Historian, diminishes quite significantly when one learns of your fondness for Adolf Hitler and your general inclinations toward Neo-Nazism.
thecritiquevirtuoso 1 year ago 2
ah ce Lully, quel vieux fou ^^
alexia513 1 year ago
@Wotansrabe666
God you're such an idiot for romanticizing an actually hellish era for ordinary people (like you) to live in.
thecritiquevirtuoso 1 year ago
@Wotansrabe666
Perfect order? Do you not know that people (peasants) were dying left and right during these times of so called "perfect order"? Why do you think the 18th century equivalent of Paris Hilton at Versailles said "let them eat cake"? The bimbo was not even aware that her country did not have a slice of bread to eat, nevertheless cake.
thecritiquevirtuoso 1 year ago 2
@thecritiquevirtuoso How dare you compare a trasy slut like Paris Hilton to Marie Antoinette, historians now agree that Marie Antoinette never said 'let them eat cake' it was her enemies who started this false rumour and of course they would say anything to discredit her
MlleFontanges 1 month ago
@Wotansrabe666 Definitely wasn't in perfect order - I'd imagine it was much harder to live back then than it is today. It's easy to say these things from our perspective, because we live in comfort today, back then MOST people had to work their butts off just to survive - medicine was also pretty bad, etc...
ChrisTeamProdigy 1 year ago
Ich will ja nix sagen aber echtmal wie dumm muss man sein sich einen Taktstab in den Fuß zu rammen,und welche Idiot macht die Dinger überhaubt unten spitz???
TobiOpfa 1 year ago
@TobiOpfa Nun, das mit dem Taktstab kann jedem passieren, oder hast du dir noch nie mit dem Hammer den Daumen beim Bildaufhängen zum Schnitzel gekloppt ;-)? Aber mit der messerscharfen Spitze da unten hast du recht. Solche Fehlkonstruktionen gibt's heute auch. Nur damals konnte eine an sich harmlose Stichverletzung schon ne böse Tetanusinfektion mit sich bringen, die mangels Antibiotika nicht so ohne weiteres auszukurieren war.
weddinganejakopp 6 months ago
dude, why the fuck did they cut off that old guys leg....... !_!
NkotbJoeyJordanFan 1 year ago
@NkotbJoeyJordanFan They did'nt ,He came to an end by a curious incident. It happened while conducting a Te Deum, on January 8, 1687, that just was performed to cure the king to celebrate after an illness. Lully used when conducting a long stick that he hit the ground. Accidentally, he hit his foot so hard that he was seriously wounded. According to legend he was the gangrene infection. This resulted in his death on March 22 of that year.
jplully 1 year ago
@NkotbJoeyJordanFan Back then..cuts led to infections which led to death...it was amputation or death.
AkMastamind 1 year ago
@AkMastamind Yes I know/ It is just painful to watch, it makes you think more about how you would feel if it were you in his situation.
NkotbJoeyJordanFan 1 year ago
@Wotansrabe666
Although I am not as dedicated as you are to "an order where God rules supreme" since I believe in secular society I loved the part when you said "Apart from religion, beauty, art and all other things that feed the soul, and make life worth living are the truly important factors". "The Sun King was a representative of a miriad of colours" in the movie maybe but he was also self-centered and didn`t care about the starving peasants while he was busy dancing and pampering himself.
RanMan171 1 year ago
@RanMan171 i am delighted to read your wise and learned comments
silenceseaandsky 1 year ago
@Wotansrabe666
I know what you mean and although I don't think materialism in itself is evil, people depend too much on it and there is an excess of apathy. Still I think Christians as a whole are far more enlightened today. In XVIII century France the clergy was very tyrannical and preyed on the masses rather than helping them. Don`t get me wrong I`m christian too, read the bible, etc... but the Church in many ways was corrupt and wasn`t exactly following the word of Christ back then.
RanMan171 1 year ago
I for one am extremely grateful I am alive on the 21st century and not the during the 18th century, even if I were part of the high class.
RanMan171 1 year ago 2
@Wotansrabe666
Yeah, sure, if you're royalty, a nobleman, part of the clergy or bourgeois. If you're part of the the Tiers Etat (basically everyone else: peasants, farmers, workers, regular folks) you're pretty much screwed. And even if you're part of the elite it's still better to be alive today. Even if you're part of the low income class you still have access to much better medical treatments and technologies than the king of France could have ever imagined.
RanMan171 1 year ago
qui danse?
24moxy 1 year ago
Superiores! Perfect Beauty ! Magical Baroque Atmosphere... J.B.Lully - The Greatest!
23vb7sl 1 year ago
This masonic movie shows a clearly misogyny in the most filthy way but at the same time followed with an homosexual uncorresponded love, maybe because Joan Baptiste do the same with his wife, and there enter the famous phrase: "anything you do, it come back to you 77 times 7"....maybe that's why he screwed his own life
WatchThisVideos 1 year ago
@Wotansrabe666 Are you crazy? Yes, their arts were far better than our bowl of shite today but how can you wish to live then when in the opening scene they are amputating a passionate idiot's leg because the histrionic fool punctured his hoof with a poker.Ha ha, Im glad he did it! You wouldnt want to live then w starvation,gross ignorance,disease and living conditions.
chelseagurl97 1 year ago 4
@chelseagurl97 That only applies to the peasantry. And even then, I'd far prefer 17th century peasantry to membership in the negligent consumerist masses of the 21st century. Peasants were content with their place in life, led by God and King. Today, people are lazy slaves to materialism and secularism. And don't try to talk about disease and living conditions: it's a non-argument. It's nonsensical to judge history by modern standards.
ComtedeTourville 1 year ago
@ComtedeTourville Nobody was or ever will be content with their place in life least of all the peasants,examples-the Jacquerie and the English Peasant Revolt of 1381.
chelseagurl97 1 year ago
@chelseagurl97 Both of those were caused by the class displacement resulting from the Hundred Years' War. Of course if government structure is destroyed, revolt will likely occur. If the state was stable, such as that of Louis XIV's, peasants were wholly complacent. This all changed after the French Revolution, in which the disgruntled bourgeoisie perpetuated the myth of aristocratic tyranny in riling the urban workers. Even then, many rural peasants supported the status quo (e.x., the Vendée).
ComtedeTourville 1 year ago
@ComtedeTourville Well, WHY would revolt occur if the peasants are so content? If the gov structure ruptured wouldnt the servants wait around passively until it was raised once more.And in the Jacquerie the peasantry took especially gruesome revenge on their so-called betters.
mynameiztoree 1 year ago
@mynameiztoree Maybe you didn't read my comment-- I said that IF the state was stable the peasants were content. If the government fails (i.e. in protecting its citizens) a revolt will naturally occur in order to either restructure the old government or establish a new one. Would the Jacquerie have occurred if the Hundred Years' War didn't destroy the foundations of the state? Absolutely not.
ComtedeTourville 1 year ago
@ComtedeTourville When chelseaswirl first wrote 'You wouldnt want to live then w starvation,gross ignorance,disease and living conditions.' ,you replied ' That only applies to the peasantry.' Your 'that' was her 'starvation,gross ignorance. etc.' Now how could a peasant or anybody else be content with that? And even a modern janitor would be more learned,better fed,housed and doctored than most nobles.
mynameiztoree 1 year ago
@mynameiztoree By your reasoning, everyone before our time should have been terribly unhappy because of their relatively poorer living standards. But motivation to work and live has to come from somewhere, and it doesn't come from depression. People with your mindset in four hundred years will probably believe we were miserable for the same reasons, and they'll be as wrong as you are now. Clearly, you're in no position to judge the intelligence of nobles (or modern janitors, for that matter).
ComtedeTourville 1 year ago
@ComtedeTourville Cool.
mynameiztoree 1 year ago
@chelseagurl97 They didn't amputat the leg , he died of the infection .
jplully 1 year ago
@jplully I know they didnt actually 'amputat' the leg, but they wanted to, as the best medical technology of the day prescribed. And though he died primarily from the infection, but it was really his overheated brains and his thinking that art and spry dancing legs have the upper hand on Life.
chelseagurl97 1 year ago
@chelseagurl97 "but it was really his overheated brains and his thinking that art and spry dancing legs have the upper hand on Life." !
Art has always the upper hand on life . I think .
jplully 1 year ago
@jplully I am happy for you.
chelseagurl97 1 year ago
@Wotansrabe666 It wasn't that great, there was no toothpaste. lolll well i know what u mean though i agree
drmgrl11 1 year ago
L'absolutisme est source de grandeur... N'en faites pas un portrait aussi noir. Admirez son faste et la splendeur des esprits qui en sont nés! Et comparez-les à la merde ordinaire de notre tous-les-jours. Il a peut-être ruiné l'économie, mais il a grandit les arts. Et les intellectuels français étaient si nombreux à l'époque du rayonnement du Roi Soleil qu'on pouvait se permettre de les censurer. Louis XIV était un nouveau Pisistrate.
Ezullof 2 years ago 2
How putin sa doit fair mal...
HiiHiiInes 2 years ago
dont they have this with subtitles in spanish, english or italian?.....french is the only one i dont understand,,,,,lol
philippusII 2 years ago
It has subtitles in english.
Thanks for the upload, lareinecomtesse!
zzclarisa 2 years ago
Lawl il c'est pointé le pied XDDD jamais vu de ma vie
colacaw 2 years ago
merci pour le films! quel glorieux roi, ils sont biens sombres nos présidents à coté de lui.
MrOrizon 2 years ago
Thank you very, very much for putting this movie into youtube. I've been looking for it and could't find (with english subtittles). Great movie, great music, I am only couriuse why the french people took german musicians (Goebbel and co.) to play such sensitive music. I like Goebbel in german stuff, but for Lully I'd prefer Savall or Rousset
ebreandhil 2 years ago
can anyone tell me the title of the first song and the song when he hurt his foot?
pakpakfashion 2 years ago
2:40 LE TE DEUM DU ROI!
It's called : Te Deum from Jean-Baptiste Lully
Klaudios777 2 years ago
Deum
martin791017 2 years ago
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pakpakfashion 2 years ago
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pakpakfashion 2 years ago
This is what French call "magnifique" . Thank you for the movie. The actor for Luis quatorzieme was suitably chosen - his face embodies all the gloire of the absolutism in Grand Siecle and its legacy. My trip to Versailles in the beginning of October has pleased me. Luis is still there...
romtscha 2 years ago 3
It's Louis quatorze , He was a great man, but his rain was the start of the ruin of france which broke out a 150 years later
simlama34 2 years ago
1) Who cares about.... those who suffered, Versailles is visited even more than Paris itself. 2) Moreover the Enlightment was the main reason of revolutionary failure of absolutism in the second half of the 18 th century, not Luis. Development of science and progress helped to understand people are equal. With Luis or without...
romtscha 2 years ago 4
@romtscha The enlightment was not only the only cause of the revolution, Louis XIV and Louis XV had brougth the country serious debt, the enlightment was just a push in the back for the anti-monarchists and the suffering people of france, I don't know if it's fair when the clergic and the aristocrats don't have to pay almost no taxes and the poor people the most ; during the rain of Louis XIV , 1/7 had to beg on the streets to survive and my history book is laying in front of me .
simlama34 2 years ago
I don´t approve absolutism at all. I just admire visually what Luis created as an art and enjoy to discover way how people were thinking in 17th or 18th century. There were many causes of revolution of course. But I love luis and versailles anyway.
romtscha 2 years ago 2
I´m not politician and I don´t want absolutism back, it´s gone forever. But the buildings and music are just increadible for me. And also the male power of young Luis who was afraid of fronda from his chidlhood that´s why extablished such a strict style of government.
romtscha 2 years ago
@romtscha And besides your talking crap, Versailles is not more visited than Paris , and you're immoral sins you approve the absolutisme which is just a fact of being stupid
simlama34 2 years ago
@romtscha True . it dosen't matter. THose who suffered and those who brought suffering down have both stood before the judgment seat of Christ and have recived their due reward.
tenorismo 1 year ago
@tenorismo are u christiian ?
romtscha 1 year ago
@romtscha Yes
tenorismo 1 year ago
@simlama34
He ruined France even in reign: The wars of the Spanish and Palatine Succession were disastrous for France. His censor ship throw a good part of French intellectual elite out of the country.
hartmut1164 2 years ago
I hope, they will make a film like this for rameau or louis himself
otacs2 2 years ago
I would love a film about Rameau! Good call!
magikopa 2 years ago
Excellent call, I think the Querelle des Bouffons could make for a good, somewhat comic film about Rameau. However, not much is known about Rameau's life.
What we need is a good film about J.S. Bach... a well documented life with political , religious, and (especially) family issues.
norcalrobbie2 2 years ago
I have been unable to find this film with or without subtitles, I am so grateful to you for posting this!
simikess 2 years ago
Thank you so much! I've been looking for this film subtitled, since my french is unspeakably bad and rusted...
xSilverPhinx 2 years ago
No sabía que había un película sobre la vida de Lully. Merci Lareinecomtesse! j'ai dejà vu le film de «Molière»
allegromarcato 2 years ago
Es una muy buena película... :)
NjosnavelinMB 2 years ago
OMFG!!! thanks for the movie!!!
pichikita 2 years ago
"GOD SAVE THE KING"!!!!!!!
rude1boii 2 years ago
Merci beaucoup! Ever since La Reine Margot (1994) and Jeanne la Pucelle I (Les batailles) & II (Les prisons) from 1994 too Le roi danse is one of the best historical movies made in France! The music of Lully is superb and the references too Moliere well done! I wonder why Corbiau was unable to make a good and entertaining movie about the religious wars in the 16th century between the Huguenots and Catholics; as his movie about them is boring a lot and quite wooden in its acting and scenery...
GreatGrumbledook 2 years ago