She really needs to plug into the soundboard and drop a clean audio track over her live performances. Read an article on her recently, but can't hear anything. Just sounds like the beginning of AC/DC's Thunder coming in.
"She's one of the only guitarists to actually use tapping as a form of musical expression."
No...
Tapping in general/ multi-finger right handed tapping is by no means genius. Its been done countless times. A lot of the newer teen bands should probably stop using it as a "we're experimental" excuse. There's nothing experimental about doing things that have already been done before.
just dropping by to say this chick is fucking awesome. heard about her through being an avid Zach Hill fan... and lol @ these comments. you guys are a bunch of mongos.
@Jacket88 man I agree with you there - Tool does get cool opening bands though like Melt Banana and Russian Circles - then their a-hole fans boo them - ugh
Tool sucks because their music is totally unrelated to genuine original thought. Songs using strange structures or time signatures - for what purpose? A song based on the Fibonacci sequence - for what purpose? It's soulless music, 10th-grader emotions, using pseudo-intellectual means to pretend that it's something deeper. They've never written anything more meaningful or original than some shitty NIN song.
I can name 20 bands using drums/bass as lead instruments. Ain't that original.
I have zero respect for your taste in music if you truly believe that Tool isn't genuine or original. Or if you think it's soulless. 10th grader emotions, are you serious? They don't pretend to be something deeper, they mean to leave the songs open ended for user interpretation.
tool sounds a lot like quicksand, shelter, helmet, a lot of other bands from that time with time signatures ripped off kings x, a lot of prog, hell even the midwest twinky braid-type bands were doing that kinda thing back then. tool sounded like a lot of better 90s bands and copped their sounds from them, just like metallica a decade earlier.
Two replies in an hour. I'm really sorry that my internet comment got to you that much.
But you're a great example of why I hate Tool fans. You think their music is incredible because they use odd time signatures, because they're "weird." It's like saying "this is the best meal I've ever had because the plate is square instead of round."
People don't hate Tool because they "don't get them." People hate Tool because they do get them, and they understand how weak and trite they are conceptually.
Actually the reason I like Tool has nothing to do with odd time signatures - I can just get past the fact that it's not 4/4 unlike you. And your comparison is asinine because the time signature is a key component to the rhythm which influences the feel of the song.
What I'm saying is simple -if you say "I don't like Tool, they aren't my style", Im completely fine with that... when you say they suck and are weak, I have you believe you are an idiot, any musician would tell you they are talented
Actually classical music did have a purpose, the history of western music started off in church, as hymns and such, and as the words were removed 'classical music' slowly became secular. Then it became entertainment for the bourgeoisie.
A friend of mine puts up with Hella, Zach Hill's solo record, and Cryptomnesia (all with very-ing degrees of success (and Yes I realize the drummer here isn't Zach)), but he just can not stand Marnie Stern. I guess her voice and staccato style can be a turn off to some.
Im just being frontal, her guitar skills are pretty mediocre.. and the band sounds like a highschool band. I dont care if shes a guy , a woman, black yellow or white. Facts are facts, you can enjoy her music, but the quality is very low.
dude - there are a billion mediocre/ shit male bands and noone ever says "if they were female noone would listen".. gender has got absolutely nothing to do with it, so why do you bring it up? also to say that facts are facts when you are talking about whether or not you like something is just irrelevant. and what is this universal "quality" measure??
I agree, gender has nothing to do with it, I just brought it up because I believe that if she was a guy, no one would care do listen, because there are tons of guys like her.. If you are a musician, you can like, love or hate a band, but because you know composing and playing skills, you can evaluate based on that , just like a painting or something.. Art is all the same.. you can like or dislike, but when you understand the skill behind it, you can say if its good or not.
Majority of good indie bands have mediocre guitarists. "Band sounds like a high school band" is subjective. Bands like Tool have incredible guitarists, and they don't sound like high school bands, but they're awful.
Honestly - What are your top 5 bands at the moment. Let me tear them apart.
I'd like to hear your top 5 bands if you think Tool is 'awful'... They actually have the balls to use bass and drums as lead instruments instead of as backing to a guitar. Not to mention Danny Carey is probably the best current rock drummer.
As for Marnie, yes her live performances aren't that tight, but her music is still unique and creative. That's what I want to hear when I listen to music. If it sounds identical to something else, it's not original.
You do realize that this was taped by a fan with a hand-held camera. A shotgun mic attached to the camera wouldn't represent how it actually sounds in person. It's a crap video.
Listen to her album and you'll hear a difference.
Or watch her professionally recorded live stuff on pitchfork.
This is bullshit.
OrthopedicFantasies 4 months ago
I really need to stop reading comments on Youtube.
YouGotWoodRolled 6 months ago 2
She really needs to plug into the soundboard and drop a clean audio track over her live performances. Read an article on her recently, but can't hear anything. Just sounds like the beginning of AC/DC's Thunder coming in.
You gotta market yourself better.
SuperSmarterthanU 8 months ago
@SuperSmarterthanU The sound on the clip is down to me not her, and I didn't do my best work on this particular show.
wwwhatsup 8 months ago 2
She writes great music. And while her tapping isn't goddamn Eddie Van Halen, it adds the perfect sound to the music.
The music is unique, thanks to her creativity and definitely Zach.
HamSandwich09 10 months ago
@Mollyanizer I am a female guitarist as well and I agree. Improv is key.
emh3256 10 months ago
"She's one of the only guitarists to actually use tapping as a form of musical expression."
No...
Tapping in general/ multi-finger right handed tapping is by no means genius. Its been done countless times. A lot of the newer teen bands should probably stop using it as a "we're experimental" excuse. There's nothing experimental about doing things that have already been done before.
straightjacketpyscho 10 months ago
i'd say she's a lot better than mediocre but what's better is that she has cool songs. great guitarplaying is common, great songs ain't.
slimturnpike 10 months ago
@Mollyanizer as a girl yourself? blech...
ffffilm 11 months ago
I fucking love this woman!!
Jer3429 1 year ago
shut up
konradharla 1 year ago
Ouch. You gave me a headache.
fanooch1 1 year ago
make it happen, marnie . . . throw some out there!!!!
carvermarks 1 year ago
Apparently the music elitism rent is to dam high;)
HexenDruken 1 year ago
just dropping by to say this chick is fucking awesome. heard about her through being an avid Zach Hill fan... and lol @ these comments. you guys are a bunch of mongos.
housesofunholy 1 year ago
@Jacket88 man I agree with you there - Tool does get cool opening bands though like Melt Banana and Russian Circles - then their a-hole fans boo them - ugh
JefferySchmitz 1 year ago
love the drums
pandacat17 1 year ago
I F'n love this Chick! Marnie Stern MF'n RoXcOx !i!
SC4936047 1 year ago
What's this band called? Never seen them :)
YouSWETube 1 year ago
imádom!!
hapyandpositive 1 year ago
I really am looking forward to getting into her music.
MrWoweeZowee 1 year ago
zach hill is god
n3ster 1 year ago
Unlike the bulk of other female songwriters out there, she actually shows some promise and talent.
zenrarity 2 years ago
people got to stop debating music like its public policy or something.
wayfarin 2 years ago 16
Tool really isn't that cool. they don't experiment enough
AnonyMOUSE1177 2 years ago
@AnonyMOUSE1177 I can't tell if youre being sarcastic or not.
surfinthetao 1 year ago
this chick is rad.
you're all bloody fuckin cunts as far as i'm concerned.
poopeatit 2 years ago 30
Agreed
automatwinslaytracks 2 years ago 3
@bshrules
Tool sucks because their music is totally unrelated to genuine original thought. Songs using strange structures or time signatures - for what purpose? A song based on the Fibonacci sequence - for what purpose? It's soulless music, 10th-grader emotions, using pseudo-intellectual means to pretend that it's something deeper. They've never written anything more meaningful or original than some shitty NIN song.
I can name 20 bands using drums/bass as lead instruments. Ain't that original.
corneeeeelius 2 years ago
I have zero respect for your taste in music if you truly believe that Tool isn't genuine or original. Or if you think it's soulless. 10th grader emotions, are you serious? They don't pretend to be something deeper, they mean to leave the songs open ended for user interpretation.
Again, let me know your top 5 bands... please...
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tool sounds a lot like quicksand, shelter, helmet, a lot of other bands from that time with time signatures ripped off kings x, a lot of prog, hell even the midwest twinky braid-type bands were doing that kinda thing back then. tool sounded like a lot of better 90s bands and copped their sounds from them, just like metallica a decade earlier.
DrugsMalone 2 years ago
And honestly, you can't get past the fact that they actually go beyond your comforting 4/4 timing... did classical music not have a purpose either?
bshrules85 2 years ago
Two replies in an hour. I'm really sorry that my internet comment got to you that much.
But you're a great example of why I hate Tool fans. You think their music is incredible because they use odd time signatures, because they're "weird." It's like saying "this is the best meal I've ever had because the plate is square instead of round."
People don't hate Tool because they "don't get them." People hate Tool because they do get them, and they understand how weak and trite they are conceptually.
corneeeeelius 2 years ago 2
Actually the reason I like Tool has nothing to do with odd time signatures - I can just get past the fact that it's not 4/4 unlike you. And your comparison is asinine because the time signature is a key component to the rhythm which influences the feel of the song.
What I'm saying is simple -if you say "I don't like Tool, they aren't my style", Im completely fine with that... when you say they suck and are weak, I have you believe you are an idiot, any musician would tell you they are talented
bshrules85 2 years ago
And AGAIN... who are your top 5 bands?? you sound like a dope so I'd love to know
bshrules85 2 years ago
I don't think Tool are incredible. Just think they're quite good
JamieBarnes11 2 years ago
Actually classical music did have a purpose, the history of western music started off in church, as hymns and such, and as the words were removed 'classical music' slowly became secular. Then it became entertainment for the bourgeoisie.
PS: Listening to Tool makes you a tool.
depunk 2 years ago
hell yeah
gostaberlingTWD 2 years ago
Listened to ten clips with Marnie now. I don't like her at all.
Artefact2 2 years ago
fair enough.
yoursxtruly 2 years ago 3
At least you gave her a go
RapturousVerbatim 2 years ago 2
Good music is relative.
DrSpaghetti 2 years ago
A friend of mine puts up with Hella, Zach Hill's solo record, and Cryptomnesia (all with very-ing degrees of success (and Yes I realize the drummer here isn't Zach)), but he just can not stand Marnie Stern. I guess her voice and staccato style can be a turn off to some.
THX10538 2 years ago
yap, if she was a guy , no one would listen... she sucks big time...
Suludom 2 years ago
you are clearly a sexist fucking retard
rayrumours 2 years ago
that was for suludom of course
rayrumours 2 years ago
Im just being frontal, her guitar skills are pretty mediocre.. and the band sounds like a highschool band. I dont care if shes a guy , a woman, black yellow or white. Facts are facts, you can enjoy her music, but the quality is very low.
Suludom 2 years ago
dude - there are a billion mediocre/ shit male bands and noone ever says "if they were female noone would listen".. gender has got absolutely nothing to do with it, so why do you bring it up? also to say that facts are facts when you are talking about whether or not you like something is just irrelevant. and what is this universal "quality" measure??
rayrumours 2 years ago 2
I agree, gender has nothing to do with it, I just brought it up because I believe that if she was a guy, no one would care do listen, because there are tons of guys like her.. If you are a musician, you can like, love or hate a band, but because you know composing and playing skills, you can evaluate based on that , just like a painting or something.. Art is all the same.. you can like or dislike, but when you understand the skill behind it, you can say if its good or not.
Suludom 2 years ago
Majority of good indie bands have mediocre guitarists. "Band sounds like a high school band" is subjective. Bands like Tool have incredible guitarists, and they don't sound like high school bands, but they're awful.
Honestly - What are your top 5 bands at the moment. Let me tear them apart.
corneeeeelius 2 years ago
I'd like to hear your top 5 bands if you think Tool is 'awful'... They actually have the balls to use bass and drums as lead instruments instead of as backing to a guitar. Not to mention Danny Carey is probably the best current rock drummer.
As for Marnie, yes her live performances aren't that tight, but her music is still unique and creative. That's what I want to hear when I listen to music. If it sounds identical to something else, it's not original.
bshrules85 2 years ago
You do realize that this was taped by a fan with a hand-held camera. A shotgun mic attached to the camera wouldn't represent how it actually sounds in person. It's a crap video.
Listen to her album and you'll hear a difference.
Or watch her professionally recorded live stuff on pitchfork.
CecilMcDude 2 years ago
mark shippy!
hell yeah.
conceptionblues 2 years ago
I dig this tune so much .. it scares me
runawayuniverse 2 years ago 2
MS FTW.
anchower 2 years ago 2
win "marnie" win!!!
cobraknife 3 years ago 3