Law that support cruelty should never be obeyed. There was a time when dark colored humans stolen from Africa and it was legal to own them, whip them, etc. Also think of the laws in Nazi Germany. Law are often unjust. The laws need changing as does our view of other species as less than.
@brandonent50 Animal slavery is perfectly legal, certainly. And yes, I believe you're right, human slavery is legal in some parts of the world. And of course, to anti-capitalists, there's wage slavery (in this sense, the vast majority of us are slaves, and it's completely legal).
im all for animal rights but across the world we have human beings living in poverty, being tortured, opressed etc. to be blunt a rabbit isnt worth as much as a palestinian child or a burmese political activist, plus the majority of these individuals tend to be from liberal middle class backgrounds, you want to fight against cruelty start by changing the system of government. tighter internal security would be a help too
It is unecessary, dangerous and totally useless to test on animals products that we are to use! Their physiology and stoichiology is competely different than ours! Why people cannot understand that!? Testing on animals is BAD and CRUEL! For 20 years so called ''scientists'' have been trying to find the cure for cancer testing on animals.. And still we are dying from that.. OPEN YOUR EYES - TESTING IS WRONG AND UNHUMAN!!!
Gdyby nie testowanie na zwierzętach medycyna była by bardzo zacofana tak więc możliwe że kogoś z twoich bliskich by szlag trafił z powodu kompletnie uleczalnej dziś choroby.
masz geniuszu jakaś alternatywę dla szczurów laboratoryjnych czy stoisz na drodze postępu bo ci twój hipisowski instynkt bezmyślnie i bezwarunkowo każe działać w tej sprawie?
A co do zwrotów "bad" and "cruel"
- życie jest surowe i okrutne i twoje nawoływanie gówno da bo nie zmienisz ludzkiej natury.
oh fuck you big corporations that are run by satanic a-holes....If I knew a person in ALF I would give them money... Who do you admire more??? Somebody that walks the talk and takes action against the scum torturing animals for profit?? or would u rather believe our 'gov & it's 'leaders' who protect these big businesses that they themselves own?? Go Alf ! Go Peta... who r the terrorists? Bilderberg, Trilat Comm, CFR--=the 'terrorists' are our own gov pushing floride, mercury, etc on us -
gtsbloke: its a lie to say that humans naturally being meat eaters... because before we became rich we had eaten meat once a week...on sunday... and that was the ONE day we eaten meat...and no other day...so
i will continue to eat meat and im not worried if it offends any one. Humans are naturally meat eaters you cant froce people of be vegans. and barry what a dick, targeting some poor butcher, he is just providing a service and the freshest meat.
I've noticed "carter20081985" post similar comments on other animal rights videos. According to his user-page he is 25 from America. How could this be? His English sucks.
O.K. Let me get this all straight...Our government spent the time/energy/money to spy on this guy? Instead of going after real terrorists they follwed a guy that is trying to save animals. I totally support ALF and our government is very crooked!
terrorists - Are people who create an environment of fear in an attempt to control people. Deaths of civilians is not required.
And the alfies DO hurt people, by interfering with animal research. Read up on Ziconitide. I was part of the research group that brought the potential of cone toxins to the attention of pharms.
Extensive animal testing was done & continues to be done so we can develop a morphine substitute with no addiction potential & does not suppress respiration.
"terrorists - Are people who create an environment of fear in an attempt to control people. Deaths of civilians is not required."
Sounds a lot the government they damn good job of keeping everyone in fear with their police, prisons, and military. THEY CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT OF FEAR AND KILL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS EVERY YEAR.
same, i hate my friends sometimes. i haven't been in a kfc for 3 years. even when i was starving and there was nothing open but a kfc i wouldn't go in there.
the difference between this groupa and animal abusers is.. this group does the compassionate or morally right thing as scientists and meat slaugterers do the wrong things without a conscience
"Democratic free society" 1:34. Don't people vote and lobby their ideas in this type of society? You certainly don't terrorize, break-in and firebomb those that you don't agree with. There is nothing democratic about that.
True...it's a bad way of getting your message across. If anything you have to get them across with love. If you lovr animals than try to love people as well but I see a lot of ALF people that would rather save a rat than a human being and I certainly don't agree with that but I do love animals especially dogs. Have 5 of them and I can't possibly think about living without dogs. I am a dog. :)
ALF does NOT speak for the masses of ANY country. If they did, sabotaging products wouldn't' be necessary. If they had popular support, consumers could EASILY boycott companies and attain the same results. The reason this hasn't and will not happen is that most people would rather have medical progress, even at the cost of animal testing. Disagree all you want, but you clearly don't have popular support or you wouldn't need ALF type actions.
Animal testing for medical research is not reliable, necessary, or effective. Nothing justifies torturing animals like that.
I have a moral paradox for you: Would you support human experimentation if you knew the results of the research would save more lives than were sacrificed? If not, please try to explain why.
The only reason you're alive today is animal biomedical research. It found cures to ilnesses which, not too long ago, were killing the population. Do you or someone you know have diabetes? If so you are sooooo evil because insuline treatements were found through research on dogs! Do us all a favor and throw yourself off a bridge. (dont hurt the fish when you fall)
This just goes to show how strong the state are against the people who really care, we live in a complete police state. Fortunately, internal sabotage is still an option as there is no way anyone can detect an internal animal liberationist in a company if they play their cards right.
i hate that smug fucking grin on that police officers face on interview he thinks he's great at what he does, a know it all prick. He doesnt care about animal torture, hes trying to stop alf and shut them down. I hope ALF continue doing what they do.
If you truly love your country, then that must mean that you will fight for the land, and all of it's fury inhabitants. Contrary to popular belief, your country is NOT a game of footie.
imwitdacrew said it best. animal research is an industry that largely creates results to perpetuate itself. these are for-profit businesses that given big gov't grants to arrive at conclusions that largely have little to no practical application to humans. it's one of the most cockamamie shams on earth.
THe alf has never hurt no one and they never will they are good people who wants to help animals that are being mistreated and thats what the alf are going to do and you cant stop them they are not terrorists they are heros so thx ALF for helping the animals
A terrorist causes pain, destruction and (obviously) terror. The ALF tries to stop pain, destruction and terror caused upon animals. Think carefully, who are the real terrorists?
AFL are nothing more than western terrorists fighting for animal rights, although whats the point in animal rights as they are not intelligent enough to understand them. If you liberate animals you might as well be an anarchist
rrba10 the point is not in the animals, it is in our humanity. What makes us human is our compassion; otherwise we'd be apes. (In other words, the greatest intelligence is compassion. Think about it.)
wheres your compassion for your own species? the ALF,PETA and similar organizations actually cause harm to the human race as a whole by ruining research that can be used to save human lives,and as a result,cause a great deal of suffering to their own kind,so not only are they misguided idiots,but they're traitors too. heres what it comes down to,if you support the ALF,then you can't support humanity,and it'd be better off without you anyway.
ALF don't vivisection humans. Is not a war between humans and animals (in the end, we are the same thing), is a war in opposition to whom they take advantage of the defenseless ones and they they cause pain.
go look up stats on exactly what most animals are tested for, then go look up the discrepancy between nonhuman and human reactions to drugs, and then come back with an informed opinion please
No. It would not be OK because a human child would be the same species as we are. I'm also not saying that it is OK to torture animals. Strangling a dog while having someone repeatedly kick it, is different from testing a new drug on the dog. There's a difference between animal abuse and animal testing.
Yup they steal mistreated animals so they deserve to be treated the same as people who blow up buildings with thousands of civilians inside such as the world trade center... If you spray paint the words animal rights on a wall you should be hanged like a mass murderer if you dont agree then you support terrorsists and bush is gonna raid your house
ALF RULES .... GOOD LUCK ALF. MEXICO LOVES ALF
MigAlf00 1 year ago 4
Law that support cruelty should never be obeyed. There was a time when dark colored humans stolen from Africa and it was legal to own them, whip them, etc. Also think of the laws in Nazi Germany. Law are often unjust. The laws need changing as does our view of other species as less than.
TheSonicchick 1 year ago 4
@TheSonicchick slavery is still legal
brandonent50 1 year ago
@brandonent50 Animal slavery is perfectly legal, certainly. And yes, I believe you're right, human slavery is legal in some parts of the world. And of course, to anti-capitalists, there's wage slavery (in this sense, the vast majority of us are slaves, and it's completely legal).
kimberlily1983 1 year ago
im all for animal rights but across the world we have human beings living in poverty, being tortured, opressed etc. to be blunt a rabbit isnt worth as much as a palestinian child or a burmese political activist, plus the majority of these individuals tend to be from liberal middle class backgrounds, you want to fight against cruelty start by changing the system of government. tighter internal security would be a help too
canyonerodriver 1 year ago
@coverchenko hear hear.
andrewshd 1 year ago
A.L.F !! GREETINGS FROM PERU
Animal Liberation GO!!
yurixcesarx 2 years ago 4
It is unecessary, dangerous and totally useless to test on animals products that we are to use! Their physiology and stoichiology is competely different than ours! Why people cannot understand that!? Testing on animals is BAD and CRUEL! For 20 years so called ''scientists'' have been trying to find the cure for cancer testing on animals.. And still we are dying from that.. OPEN YOUR EYES - TESTING IS WRONG AND UNHUMAN!!!
Magda260384 2 years ago 7
Gdyby nie testowanie na zwierzętach medycyna była by bardzo zacofana tak więc możliwe że kogoś z twoich bliskich by szlag trafił z powodu kompletnie uleczalnej dziś choroby.
masz geniuszu jakaś alternatywę dla szczurów laboratoryjnych czy stoisz na drodze postępu bo ci twój hipisowski instynkt bezmyślnie i bezwarunkowo każe działać w tej sprawie?
A co do zwrotów "bad" and "cruel"
- życie jest surowe i okrutne i twoje nawoływanie gówno da bo nie zmienisz ludzkiej natury.
Eclipsepoland 2 years ago
oh fuck you big corporations that are run by satanic a-holes....If I knew a person in ALF I would give them money... Who do you admire more??? Somebody that walks the talk and takes action against the scum torturing animals for profit?? or would u rather believe our 'gov & it's 'leaders' who protect these big businesses that they themselves own?? Go Alf ! Go Peta... who r the terrorists? Bilderberg, Trilat Comm, CFR--=the 'terrorists' are our own gov pushing floride, mercury, etc on us -
babymans 2 years ago 15
I appreciate your comments and it was very well said. Its good to know there are people like you out there.
smokeybiut 2 years ago
gtsbloke: its a lie to say that humans naturally being meat eaters... because before we became rich we had eaten meat once a week...on sunday... and that was the ONE day we eaten meat...and no other day...so
GO VEGAN...THATS THE TRUE!!!
Larisssssssssssssss 2 years ago
While i am not a fan of animal testing,
i will continue to eat meat and im not worried if it offends any one. Humans are naturally meat eaters you cant froce people of be vegans. and barry what a dick, targeting some poor butcher, he is just providing a service and the freshest meat.
gtsbloke 2 years ago
i wonder how much of the tax payers money was spent uncovering this shot gun. the police are so so stupid.
RIP Barry Horne
larac00l 2 years ago
peta and alf are terrorist and must be stop them are bullshit of the world we to tell are president to bomb them
carter20081985 3 years ago
Good English
ALFJAG 3 years ago 13
haha, yeah.
I've noticed "carter20081985" post similar comments on other animal rights videos. According to his user-page he is 25 from America. How could this be? His English sucks.
Pincus666 3 years ago 2
@carter20081985 hahaha ur a retard
luckyrabbitfoot99 1 year ago
@carter20081985 Don't rush through your comment. But I agree with what you're saying.
TheRandomAssassin1 1 year ago
@carter20081985 you should get your grammer right before asking for a airstrike dumbass
V1RUL 7 months ago
I cannot believe that ALF is listed as #2 behind Al-Queda as the most dangerous terrorist organizations in the world. I just cannot believe it...
sirena583 3 years ago 21
@sirena583 i dont believe it! i fully support them.
cjm608 1 year ago
O.K. Let me get this all straight...Our government spent the time/energy/money to spy on this guy? Instead of going after real terrorists they follwed a guy that is trying to save animals. I totally support ALF and our government is very crooked!
insanetexter 3 years ago 11
These people ARENT terrorists!
Terrorist are people who KILL CIVILIANS to further there own goals.
ALF simply do sabotage against the corps that torture animals, and ofc they free them.
My support goes to the ALF.
Rad1ka1 3 years ago 8
terrorists - Are people who create an environment of fear in an attempt to control people. Deaths of civilians is not required.
And the alfies DO hurt people, by interfering with animal research. Read up on Ziconitide. I was part of the research group that brought the potential of cone toxins to the attention of pharms.
Extensive animal testing was done & continues to be done so we can develop a morphine substitute with no addiction potential & does not suppress respiration.
conotoxin 3 years ago
"terrorists - Are people who create an environment of fear in an attempt to control people. Deaths of civilians is not required."
Sounds a lot the government they damn good job of keeping everyone in fear with their police, prisons, and military. THEY CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT OF FEAR AND KILL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS EVERY YEAR.
GOVERNMENT=TERROR
anarchopunk69 2 years ago
same, i hate my friends sometimes. i haven't been in a kfc for 3 years. even when i was starving and there was nothing open but a kfc i wouldn't go in there.
pinkrose527 3 years ago 3
i hate terrorist
carter20081985 3 years ago
The cops are the terrorists.
chickenjesus007 3 years ago 7
the difference between this groupa and animal abusers is.. this group does the compassionate or morally right thing as scientists and meat slaugterers do the wrong things without a conscience
Gtrplyr1 3 years ago 3
"Democratic free society" 1:34. Don't people vote and lobby their ideas in this type of society? You certainly don't terrorize, break-in and firebomb those that you don't agree with. There is nothing democratic about that.
MadMatt105 3 years ago
like JFK said, When peaceful revolution is impossible, violent revolution is inevitable.
when you can't vote and lobby your way to animal freedom, you have to go out there and do it yourself.
xxxskeletonqueenxxx 3 years ago 6
True...it's a bad way of getting your message across. If anything you have to get them across with love. If you lovr animals than try to love people as well but I see a lot of ALF people that would rather save a rat than a human being and I certainly don't agree with that but I do love animals especially dogs. Have 5 of them and I can't possibly think about living without dogs. I am a dog. :)
ekserchina 3 years ago
ALF does NOT speak for the masses of ANY country. If they did, sabotaging products wouldn't' be necessary. If they had popular support, consumers could EASILY boycott companies and attain the same results. The reason this hasn't and will not happen is that most people would rather have medical progress, even at the cost of animal testing. Disagree all you want, but you clearly don't have popular support or you wouldn't need ALF type actions.
TTSinPA 4 years ago
That's not a reason for them to stop, they're doing the right thing, maybe in the wrong way but they are succeeding.
"When the laws are unfair they don't oblige the consciousness"
- Jaime Luciano Balmes, "El protestantismo co..."
Munaq 4 years ago
Animal testing for medical research is not reliable, necessary, or effective. Nothing justifies torturing animals like that.
I have a moral paradox for you: Would you support human experimentation if you knew the results of the research would save more lives than were sacrificed? If not, please try to explain why.
jortylbro 4 years ago 3
The only reason you're alive today is animal biomedical research. It found cures to ilnesses which, not too long ago, were killing the population. Do you or someone you know have diabetes? If so you are sooooo evil because insuline treatements were found through research on dogs! Do us all a favor and throw yourself off a bridge. (dont hurt the fish when you fall)
questionben 3 years ago
This just goes to show how strong the state are against the people who really care, we live in a complete police state. Fortunately, internal sabotage is still an option as there is no way anyone can detect an internal animal liberationist in a company if they play their cards right.
ALFWEDARF 4 years ago
i hate that smug fucking grin on that police officers face on interview he thinks he's great at what he does, a know it all prick. He doesnt care about animal torture, hes trying to stop alf and shut them down. I hope ALF continue doing what they do.
jamesarizona1983 4 years ago
the ALF are heroes, simple as that...I wish I could unite them someday...peace...
legolds 4 years ago
If you truly love your country, then that must mean that you will fight for the land, and all of it's fury inhabitants. Contrary to popular belief, your country is NOT a game of footie.
cobweb113 4 years ago
imwitdacrew said it best. animal research is an industry that largely creates results to perpetuate itself. these are for-profit businesses that given big gov't grants to arrive at conclusions that largely have little to no practical application to humans. it's one of the most cockamamie shams on earth.
schwarzblatt 4 years ago 2
people who abuse animals need to be shot!
demonwitch1 4 years ago 10
THe alf has never hurt no one and they never will they are good people who wants to help animals that are being mistreated and thats what the alf are going to do and you cant stop them they are not terrorists they are heros so thx ALF for helping the animals
Evilkaneheights 4 years ago 6
In response to rrba10: ...be an anarchist.
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unit45x 4 years ago
A terrorist causes pain, destruction and (obviously) terror. The ALF tries to stop pain, destruction and terror caused upon animals. Think carefully, who are the real terrorists?
boodleboy 4 years ago 5
screw you people!they are not terrorists! they are heroes. save the animals. people are mistreating them.
bonkatonka 4 years ago 4
Proud to be a libertarian socialist or anarchist to you, you probably don't even know what it means.
mzzgiggles 5 years ago
AFL are nothing more than western terrorists fighting for animal rights, although whats the point in animal rights as they are not intelligent enough to understand them. If you liberate animals you might as well be an anarchist
rrba10 5 years ago
rrba10 the point is not in the animals, it is in our humanity. What makes us human is our compassion; otherwise we'd be apes. (In other words, the greatest intelligence is compassion. Think about it.)
Contradiction11 4 years ago 3
wheres your compassion for your own species? the ALF,PETA and similar organizations actually cause harm to the human race as a whole by ruining research that can be used to save human lives,and as a result,cause a great deal of suffering to their own kind,so not only are they misguided idiots,but they're traitors too. heres what it comes down to,if you support the ALF,then you can't support humanity,and it'd be better off without you anyway.
ViralMessiah 4 years ago
ALF don't vivisection humans. Is not a war between humans and animals (in the end, we are the same thing), is a war in opposition to whom they take advantage of the defenseless ones and they they cause pain.
nakir01 4 years ago
go look up stats on exactly what most animals are tested for, then go look up the discrepancy between nonhuman and human reactions to drugs, and then come back with an informed opinion please
imwitdacrew 4 years ago 3
"It is just like a man's vanity and impertance to call an animal dumb because it is dumb due to his dull perceptions." -Mark Twain
goingemoguy 4 years ago 3
using your reasoning, it would be okay to torture small children, since they cant reason (a pig is more inteligent than a 3 yr old)
"The question is not, can they reason? Nor, can they talk? But, can they suffer?"
onelastgo 4 years ago 4
No. It would not be OK because a human child would be the same species as we are. I'm also not saying that it is OK to torture animals. Strangling a dog while having someone repeatedly kick it, is different from testing a new drug on the dog. There's a difference between animal abuse and animal testing.
803T 4 years ago
Animal testing IS animal abuse no matter how you look at it. The suffering of an animal is animal abuse, asshat.
chickenspirit 4 years ago
Yup they steal mistreated animals so they deserve to be treated the same as people who blow up buildings with thousands of civilians inside such as the world trade center... If you spray paint the words animal rights on a wall you should be hanged like a mass murderer if you dont agree then you support terrorsists and bush is gonna raid your house
mjz321 4 years ago
the alf and elf are much different then what you know as terroists. they are more like happiests.
goveganordie69 4 years ago 3
yeah..."happiests" who call their own goverments Facist and draconian
if they don't like it then leave
TheChoujinVirus 3 years ago
For you people to know he is being sarcastic, Bush is not going to raid anyones house.
Thumbs up to you.
Munaq 4 years ago
Alf are freedom fighters, [in times of universal deciet the truth is a revolutionary act].
mzzgiggles 5 years ago
No matter what they say don't give up. ALF are far from terrorist.
huneypee 5 years ago 2
I know how it feels to be a ELF spy
ALF has it just as bad
EarthLiberationFront 5 years ago