Arm4g3dd0nX's Sixty Second Update 10

[shpladau]

Ironic, a tutorial on HD footage, but the tutorial isn't in HD.

[ValkiryeMax]

What is the music at begining?

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

I don't even remember anymore. Diginsan or something?

[W4rr1orZ]

@ValkiryeMax

The song is called Unreeeal Superhero 3

Here it is:

/watch?v=6c9ikdXxuVA&feature=r­elated

[STimmortal]

wouldnt sony vegas be a smarter choice?

you can render in h.264. that might save you some disk space ^^

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

I tried Sony Vegas. Everything ended up taking a lot longer to do. But if h.264 is a better quality for smaller size format, I can probably render to it in Camtasia Studio.

[naisanza]

sorry, but the video is hard to tell what settings you use..

how long does it usually take for each video to encode for you?

also, do you use the highest game resolution when you play? or do you use a lower resolution so that fraps can record more and use less memory?

and lastly, what type of encoding do you use/prefer? H.264? MPEG4?

Thanks! I've only just started getting into video editing this week. I'm using Fraps 2.9.8 and adobe premiere pro cs4

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

About 25 minutes per 10 minute video. I use 1280x720, YouTube's theory of what HD means, when I play. I prefer a custom preset made for WMV.

[naisanza]

Is there special benefits to quality when using WMV?

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

I tend to get smaller file sizes for the same YouTube HD quality.

[Rangar95]

ok this is an old update so i dont know if u would get this but if i changed that thing that u did to get high quality could i maybe get better quality then im getting right now?

[DarkenWater666]

Wondering, how long does it usely take to render the footage?

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

25-35 minutes per 10 minute video.

[DarkenWater666]

I got one problem, since I got Windows 7 beta, and doesnt come with any Movie Maker, so I had to download 2.6, but now There no options like you got, now I have is LAN, broadband, Pocket PC, DV-AVI and all that, but I have still to figure out which one is HD. I looked online, but I found nothing, so far. anyways PEACE!!

[BoomlalaMetrotab]

A couple of comments below yours, there is a download link to a custom file for 720p HD format.

[groudon8]

I can imagine how fast your computer runs when you have 200 windows open. It must be very slow - at least it would with my hardware.

[ESWtagteam]

I dont have that option in my movie maker? Is it just for Vista becuse I have XP and if thats the case what should I use for XP?

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

How would I know that?

[ESWtagteam]

I dont know? it semes like u know what your doing.

[BoomlalaMetrotab]

For people here who use XP instead of Vista and don't see Arma's option of outputting 720p format, there is a custom file you can download, adding the option to XP's WMM. Follow this link:

hak5 (dot) org/forums/index (dot) php?showtopic=8521

[BoomlalaMetrotab]

It's a repost, 2 comments below your question.

[BoomlalaMetrotab]

For people here who use XP instead of Vista and don't see Arma's option of outputting 720p format, there is a custom file you can download, adding the option to XP's WMM. Follow this link:

hak5 (dot) org/forums/index (dot) php?showtopic=8521

[groudon8]

Wow, now if I was to record with the footage eating up my HDD space that fast, I would be out in less than 6 minuites.

[groudon8]

Oh wait a second it would actually take up the rest of my HDD in a half hour.

[Cri354]

I get a error when i upload too big files on MovieMaker...

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

You mean upload from Windows Movie Maker?

[Cri354]

When i insert a video file and its to big i get a error

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

How big are these video files?

[Cri354]

well i once tryed with 1 gb files (lamo) and it didnt worked...so i inserted many 50-100mb files..i recoredet only 10 secs and it also crashed after 3-4 files...

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

Hmm, I put 4.5 gig files in there all the time. Do you have a very little amount of memory?

[Cri354]

u mean Ram memory?(4GB) or HDD memory?(500gb)

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

Both of those seem fine. Maybe you should try to get a new version of WMM?

[Cri354]

i should try to update it....but dunno i got Vista dont they auto update the soft?

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

Well obviously it's not working. So that's what I would try.

[djburst]

So then your native recording resolution in games is 1280x720? Have you attempted 1080 yet or does it get too dodgy? I've noticed your frames are pretty flawless in even your FEAR2 LP with what seems to be fairly high settings.

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

1080p doesn't show up in YouTube. 1280x720 is the best you can get. Instead of trying for 1080p, I would try for 40, 50, and 60 fps.

[djburst]

I see. I attempted recording 29.97 for NTSC haha.

[Ambre502]

Thank you so much!

[p3rs0nne]

wow full-screen? beefy comp, no?

generally using half-screen can produce similar HDness?

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

Well let's say your resolution is 1280x960 like mine. If you record at half-screen you get 640x480. 720p HD uses a 1280x720 resolution. That effectively means that it has to quaruple the size of every pixel to make a 640x480 recording, 1280x720 resolution (with letterboxes on the sides). I guess that that would result in something slightly better than high quality, but not even close to what HD should be.

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

Oops, not quadruple, 2.25 times bigger.

[Riskshocker]

play on ps3, so i cant use fraps or somethink like that )=

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

All sorts of things. If you can think of it, I probably have it open. Paused Hanson music videos? Probably. Gay midget porno websites? At least 4 days a week. Alt-tabbed out of Barbie's Adventure the game? You know it!

And if it's not in the tutorial I really don't know.

[TheUngiver]

Good lord, 100-200 windows? For what?

Also, the fact that you use Vista is throwing me off. I can't record from Stereo Mix and Microphone at the same time, mainly because I can't find a way to record those two tracks at once with Fraps. It's very irritating, you must have your Microphone linked with Stereo Mix somehow.

On another note, in WMM's XP edition, there is no 720p HD setting, there is only "High Quality Video (NTSC)" which I'm not even sure that works or not. Help me out here?

[BoomlalaMetrotab]

I know it has been a month since you posted this, but I found a solution for your problem (if you didn't solve it yourself in the meantime). It's in another comment on this video.

[TyberZannxxxx]

I'm glad I can make HD videos, even though your PC is more powerful than mine! I use the DivX Converter to convert WMV files converted form AVI recorded at 1280x720p. It costs money, but it's worth buying! I might get a new processor, video card, and disc drive in the future!

[skorch82]

You can record at half-size in FRAPS and get the same results when you are done rendering.

The upside to that is smaller source files.

That's the way I have been doing my Fallout vids and it seems to work well enough. Usually about 6GB for 10mins of video. Fraps tends to split the file once it reaches 4.2 GB.

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

If you record at half of 1280x720 or 640x360, then publish it at 1280x720, doesn't that mean you lost a ton of quality?

[skorch82]

Not necessarily. I dont know about your game settings, but I record at 1900x1280, which is roughly 950x640. It rounds up to the nearest 16:9 ratio.

Since the aspect ratio is preserved, you should theoretically only see a slight increase in rendering time.

As far as quality goes, I don't think you will notice much difference, and it's all in the codec anyways.

I'll reall have to test it out, but I don't think you'll notice the diff on YT.

[typhoonbf2]

Every time i record games with fraps my framerate goes to sh*t. My specs are:

Intel core 2 quad 2.4Ghz

8800GTX 768MB

2GB RAM

500GB HDD

800W PSU

nvidia 780i mobo

is this good enough or would i need more ram for recording

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

I have 50% more CPU power, you have 13% more GPU power, you have a quarter the ram and you aren't saying the speed. Once again you aren't saying the speed of your hard drive. You aren't mentioning the 12v-line total amperage of your PSU. Your motherboard seems to be half as fast.

If your operating system isn't 64bit, there's really no reason to get more ram. However, I do suspect that that is the culprit. Might want more ram and an OS too. Could also be your motherboard speed.

[skorch82]

4GB is the limit for 32-bit physical memory, but virtual memory makes up for anything extra any program would need.

Usually, my framerate goes south when my CPU is exceptionally busy (which it shouldnt be, since you are recording after all :P ).

It could be your FSB (frontside bus) speed, which basically bottlenecks your RAM and CPU operation throughput.

Arm may be on to something with your MOBO, but I woudln't discount another 2GB of RAM. It does make a lot of difference, esp w/ Vista.

[EmptyNutShells]

no way do you sometimes have 100 to 200 windows open at once! O_O

that is CRAZY!

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

What's crazier is the fact that these videos aren't being displayed at the higher qualities!! GRRR.

[Mrlinkwait]

Rename it the 50second update because of intro . LOL

[Arm4g3dd0nX]

Hah, if I did that people would complain that it was 60 seconds and not 50.

[7gamex]

Being able to have so many windows open at once is messed up.

[thething91]

nice man it's always nice to know people try showing others how to do good vds great job. also nice left 4 dead walkthrough. :D.