The war in South Ossetia was started by the western influenced government of Georgia. If you make a video that makes the Georgians pose as vitims and Russians as agressor, you're buying all the lies, that lead to wars. othing can stop wars, when people keep buying the lies. Obamas advisors want war just as much as Bush and Cheney did. otherwise he'd stop the missile program in Poland immediatly.
Senator Obama really blew it with his response to this one. How many foreign advisors and the best he could come up with is let's take Russia to the security council? Give me a frigging break.
Funny stuff, Bush has been at war for how many years? and he has been on the most vacations compared to any other president...then you got Bush who stayed in Beijing and made his speaches there. McCain was just "fortunate" to be in the states doing campaigning....and it wasn't a full scale invasion, but they did go a lot further than they said they would, Russia was flexing its muscle.
You speak the Truth. Unlike most people on YouTube who refuse to check the facts out of fear they'll have to face they are being lied to by the media and laziness, I value the Truth.
this may sound like i'm being belittling, but it's a serious question. What does America have to gain by getting involved in this conflict? I mean, I'm a Marine, we love to do our job which is destroy the enemy, but I don't want my fellow Marines to die for a cause that doesn't benefit our nation. Why should America help, and I must have a tangible answer, simply "helping others in need" is not going to cut it.
For a while I found myself contemplating whether Georgia was "worth" a conflict with Russia.
While full-scale war is out of the question, there are other things we can do (such as send troops only to the Capital) to keep Georgia from being conquered. Georgia sent 2,000 of it's own men and women to Iraq to die for us. By % of their military, that is a vast amount.
They were willing to die for us. The most we're willing to do is send them some rice and asprin?
If Russia gains control of the pipeline that runs trough Georgia and Georgia's seaports, it will gain control of a key Oil Supply for the Western European NATO members.
We are a member of NATO.
Russia's Gazprom [their govt-controlled Oil co.] needs the price of Oil to stay high.
Their economy depends on it.
The price of Oil had been dropping for a month, so Russia had to act.
Russia wants to be able to control NATO countries by using their dependence on Oil against them.
in that respect, wouldn't it be worth our while to find ways to not be so dependent on foreign oil, like domestic drilling and investing in nuclear technologies, as opposed to open war with yet another nation. I'm not sure the world would buy into our involvement.
We need to be do everything we can to gain energy independence...all of it.
Full out drilling activity will create thousands of new jobs, and pump money into the economy that is needed for the development of alternative fuels.
The point I was trying to make, and perhaps did it poorly, is that as a member of NATO, we have an obligation to help our fellow members...but no moreso than they themselves are willing to do.
Damn right! And we need to deal with the sneaky bastards trying to destroy us from within. Those sneaky bastards are the enemy and our biggest problem.
You're an idiot.. America has nothing to do with the pipeline, and more likely if it is all about the pipeline then they are trying to protect EUROPE so that RUSSIA doesnt take a full control of it in S. Ossetia.
Thats why america is in the shape it is now. republicans put us in this position and you think a republican is going to get us out of this hell. thats why america is going to fall. insanity- doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
"america is going to fall" typical liberal anti-american rhetoric. sentiments like these is why it is imperative that obama and his socialist minions don't come to power.
Oh if you dont agree with the failed Bush/Mccain/Republican foreign policies than you are anti-american! No 911 ATTACK was anti-American, we are just trying to prevent anoher one. We need to stop trying to be the POLICE OF THE WORLD. We need to take care of home first.
cscbill:regardless of anyone's viewpoint on the war. the statement "america is going to fall" is indeed anti-american. no matter how you look at it. if you agree with that statement your patriotism is also in question.
Your beautiful country America? No If we had Obama for President for the last 8 years we wouldnt be in this mess, now would we? We are not the most powerful, even if Mccain and Bush wants to put on a front like we are. We need to pull out of Iraq, and focus on Afghan. We need to rebuild our military, at the rate we are going no one will be able to protect America the Beautiful.
Mccain will have Americans fighting all kinds of wars with no soldiers. Why dont he suit his old behind up and fight? No I dont think so, but he will send all of our men and women into unnessary battles. I cant stand him. One hit to the gut and he's down for the count! lol
Obama was caught unaware because, at least temporarily, he though Russia invaded the US STATE of Georgia and he was worried about the effect of the unrest on the black voting demographic in Georgia. When informed that it was Georgia the COUNTRY he, due to his communist upbringing, had momentary lapse and thought that Russia was still communist and got a warm,pleasant feeling in his heart. When finally told that Russia wasn't communist he declared himself against the Russia aggression.
Yeah you are correct Mccain did respond forcefully and war minded. So if he is elected be ready to fight war after war after war. Also have you rocks and sticks ready by front door, because we will run out of soldiers and that old fucker will institute a draft.
Be careful what you ask for ...you just might get it
Can you please explain me, what interests does America has near the russian border?..of course if they are not hostile? democracy? when american leaders say this word in public it just calls a smirk. Every reasonable person would understand that Georgia would never had balls to provoke Russia on its own, by doing what they did, killing and bombing thousands of civilians.. Say hello to MaCcaine, he wants to became a president so much, be aware one day war may to your home
Once again Obama screws up by not knowing how to properly respond to this recent war like McCain did. this will only hurt Obama some more. Evry week there is something new that Obama does that he shoots himself in the foot.
Georgia had 2000 troops assisting us in Iraq, and is a staunch supporter of these United States. The reason we support them is because they support us.
That is what interest we have, and we should have helped them more.
That may true, however Bush hesitated to respond because he knows in his heart he did the same thing. Big bully nations picking on smaller nations. Not cool!
Perhaps you should stop listening to your State-run media. Our media never said the pipeline was under attack, they said that there were concerns that it might be attacked.
Wake up America! Obama supposedly brokers a cease fire with Medviedev, and it is absolutely worthless. Does the world finally see how ignorant about the evil leaders of the world Obama really is? This is the sum total of his plan against Iran too, does anyone expect different results there?
He could be getting the best Fake Birth Certificate that Soros's millions can buy.
There could be some poorly paid Hawaiian State Officials who are sudden millionaires now.
It just seems awfully 'convenient' that Obama would be in Hawaii for a week, as this Birth Certifcate issue reaches critical mass right before the Convention.
Russian jets targeted a key oil pipeline with over 50 missiles in a weekend bombing raid in Georgia...
Georgia is a crucial link in a three country energy corridor vital to Western Europe's oil and gas supply.
"They need control of energy routes," the Georgian president, Mikhail Saakashvili said. "They need sea ports. They need transportation infrastructure. And primarily, they want to get rid of us."
You blame Obama for visiting his grandma while this happened? He's not President! Your President Bush was playing volleyball at the Olympics while this was going on!
You are correct. It is nice to read a comment by someone who has checked the facts. Most people on YouTube just talk out of their butts repeating media lies without any thought and are annoyed when they hear the Truth. Thanks for sharing that and not letting ignorant loud mouths discourage you.
I am sorry BigMao13, but these are political videos for the 2008 Presidential Election, and as per my channel rules, non-Americans are not allowed to post here.
The US cannot tell Russia what to do! After Iraq they cannot lead anymore because when you're a drug addict it is hard to tell your children not to do drugs!You lead by example!The Georgian president provoked Russia thinking that the US will stand with him!Israel will wake up one day too!Let senile McCain touches Iran and the US will get a big spanking from China and Russia.
Cheney led Saakashvili to believe that the Russians wouldn't dare take action if he moved Georgian troops into South Ossetia because of US support for the Saakashvili regime.
All Georgian regimes have been overthrown since their independence from the Soviet Union, and Saakashvili was trying to avoid the same fate.
Saakashvili ordered the invasion of South Ossetia for political reasons. The blood of all the innocent people that resulted, Georgian and South Ossetian, is on his hands.
The war in South Ossetia was started by the western influenced government of Georgia. If you make a video that makes the Georgians pose as vitims and Russians as agressor, you're buying all the lies, that lead to wars. othing can stop wars, when people keep buying the lies. Obamas advisors want war just as much as Bush and Cheney did. otherwise he'd stop the missile program in Poland immediatly.
ToritoNL 2 years ago
The fact that he is so close to being president is amazing. It seems it doesn't matter what you do in the past.
williamwieting 3 years ago
I believe Obama is a sock puppet for the Soviets. It's no accident that he was on vacation when this happened.
introvertical71 3 years ago 2
O SO TRUE
tuckmanstan 3 years ago
funny.
id rather believe a liar then a killer
SteveBrownTUBE 3 years ago
Don't believe either.
davidchenard 3 years ago
Senator Obama really blew it with his response to this one. How many foreign advisors and the best he could come up with is let's take Russia to the security council? Give me a frigging break.
wyattmcintyre 3 years ago
Funny stuff, Bush has been at war for how many years? and he has been on the most vacations compared to any other president...then you got Bush who stayed in Beijing and made his speaches there. McCain was just "fortunate" to be in the states doing campaigning....and it wasn't a full scale invasion, but they did go a lot further than they said they would, Russia was flexing its muscle.
Gasol188 3 years ago
Its a lie Russia didient attack they drove back the Georgian army because they bombed Skenvalii.
515homealone 3 years ago
You speak the Truth. Unlike most people on YouTube who refuse to check the facts out of fear they'll have to face they are being lied to by the media and laziness, I value the Truth.
davidchenard 3 years ago
this is going to get so bad war war war every where now i got to start building a bomb shelter
antimoron08 3 years ago
this may sound like i'm being belittling, but it's a serious question. What does America have to gain by getting involved in this conflict? I mean, I'm a Marine, we love to do our job which is destroy the enemy, but I don't want my fellow Marines to die for a cause that doesn't benefit our nation. Why should America help, and I must have a tangible answer, simply "helping others in need" is not going to cut it.
thatbamma 3 years ago
For a while I found myself contemplating whether Georgia was "worth" a conflict with Russia.
While full-scale war is out of the question, there are other things we can do (such as send troops only to the Capital) to keep Georgia from being conquered. Georgia sent 2,000 of it's own men and women to Iraq to die for us. By % of their military, that is a vast amount.
They were willing to die for us. The most we're willing to do is send them some rice and asprin?
It's a tough call to make.
TravisTCleveland 3 years ago
thatbamma,
If Russia gains control of the pipeline that runs trough Georgia and Georgia's seaports, it will gain control of a key Oil Supply for the Western European NATO members.
We are a member of NATO.
Russia's Gazprom [their govt-controlled Oil co.] needs the price of Oil to stay high.
Their economy depends on it.
The price of Oil had been dropping for a month, so Russia had to act.
Russia wants to be able to control NATO countries by using their dependence on Oil against them.
SeekerNLife 3 years ago
in that respect, wouldn't it be worth our while to find ways to not be so dependent on foreign oil, like domestic drilling and investing in nuclear technologies, as opposed to open war with yet another nation. I'm not sure the world would buy into our involvement.
thatbamma 3 years ago
thatbamma,
I heartily agree!
We need to be do everything we can to gain energy independence...all of it.
Full out drilling activity will create thousands of new jobs, and pump money into the economy that is needed for the development of alternative fuels.
The point I was trying to make, and perhaps did it poorly, is that as a member of NATO, we have an obligation to help our fellow members...but no moreso than they themselves are willing to do.
So, if NATO goes to war with Russia, then...
SeekerNLife 3 years ago
[cont'd]
...we would have to be envolved.
Georgia is not a member of NATO.
They have been trying to join.
But Georgia's pipeline & seaports are important to European NATO members.
It is important to know, that Russia's President Medvedev was the CEO of Gazprom before he became president.
And a recent French/Canadian agreement with Gazprom for Natural Gas further complicates things.
SeekerNLife 3 years ago
Damn right! And we need to deal with the sneaky bastards trying to destroy us from within. Those sneaky bastards are the enemy and our biggest problem.
davidchenard 3 years ago
You are being lied to, voron26.
Russia does have an alliance with Iran.
Russia also has an alliance with Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, and is talking of installing a Nuclear Missile Base in Venezuela.
And Russia claimed the North Pole as new territory last year.
Gazprom's 1st new ice-resistant oil rig is being built at at the Sevmash plant in the town of Severodvinsk.
Putin toured the plant on July 11, 2008, and said:
"The Arctic zone is a guarantee of Russia's economic power".
SeekerNLife 3 years ago
sorry not enough evidence on yours..
Plus Georgia is not Angelic...get to the parallel story
rubicon1969 3 years ago
rubicon1969,
You live in United Arab Emirates?
I doubt that you would believe anything that is not broadcast on Al-Jazeera.
SeekerNLife 3 years ago
Sorry Voron, but these are internal political videos that do not concern the rest of the world.
We don't care who other nations elect, stop caring who we elect. :)
TravisTCleveland 3 years ago
Ok.. i am not discussing your candidates... my comments were about other events..
no prob
voron26 3 years ago
hahaha, wow, this guy is from the Ukraine. If Russia invades you, I will be sure to oppose any military or humanitarian aid.
Also, deleted for being a non-American.
TravisTCleveland 3 years ago
Sorry cscbill, swearing is not allowed on my channel. This comment will ahve to be deleted, but your others will remain.
TravisTCleveland 3 years ago
5 star video.
Nobama is useless.
Patriots4McCain 3 years ago
yes gr8 video - NObama's hope-nosis will not help us through any problems
PoliTapTV 3 years ago
You're an idiot.. America has nothing to do with the pipeline, and more likely if it is all about the pipeline then they are trying to protect EUROPE so that RUSSIA doesnt take a full control of it in S. Ossetia.
gskowal 3 years ago
this is one of the funnies videos i`ve seen.. "WE NEED YOU OBAMA" ?? LOL who is he a superman? please... wow what a propaganda!
gskowal 3 years ago
lol, I don't think you quite get the premise of the video.
It's sarcasm; a satirical way to point out what we *don't* need, and what will not help us ("hope").
TravisTCleveland 3 years ago
Thats why america is in the shape it is now. republicans put us in this position and you think a republican is going to get us out of this hell. thats why america is going to fall. insanity- doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
jsmith31451 3 years ago
"america is going to fall" typical liberal anti-american rhetoric. sentiments like these is why it is imperative that obama and his socialist minions don't come to power.
geargemartin 3 years ago 2
Oh if you dont agree with the failed Bush/Mccain/Republican foreign policies than you are anti-american! No 911 ATTACK was anti-American, we are just trying to prevent anoher one. We need to stop trying to be the POLICE OF THE WORLD. We need to take care of home first.
cscbill 3 years ago
Untrue, as you have seen, your posts (however much I disagree with you) have not been deleted.
I know how many Liberals arn't great at spotting anti-Americanism, so here are a few things that fall under that category:
- Claiming that the United States implamented the 9/11 attacks.
- Calling Americans 'Nazis' or comparing our leader to any genocidal maniacs.
Since I know a good that an upstanding Liberal like yourself would never resort to these, you are pretty safe on my channel. :)
TravisTCleveland 3 years ago
cscbill:regardless of anyone's viewpoint on the war. the statement "america is going to fall" is indeed anti-american. no matter how you look at it. if you agree with that statement your patriotism is also in question.
geargemartin 3 years ago
Bunch of dummies! by starting a false war, that is protecting you!
jsmith31451 3 years ago
don't listen him, don't listen anyone, THINK!
kristallize 3 years ago
america will become a weak country if obama is president. he is not ready to defend my beautiful country america.
oaogal 3 years ago 3
Your beautiful country America? No If we had Obama for President for the last 8 years we wouldnt be in this mess, now would we? We are not the most powerful, even if Mccain and Bush wants to put on a front like we are. We need to pull out of Iraq, and focus on Afghan. We need to rebuild our military, at the rate we are going no one will be able to protect America the Beautiful.
cscbill 3 years ago
I guess this falls back to the adage: War never solved anything..... except Slavery, Facism, Nazism, etc.
belnumcree 3 years ago 2
I agree 100% war is not the answere.
cscbill 3 years ago
I believe you misinterpreted my post.
belnumcree 3 years ago
McCain will take a hard line against the Russians, Obama will take a bed wetting line against the Russians.
pdalko 3 years ago
Mccain will have Americans fighting all kinds of wars with no soldiers. Why dont he suit his old behind up and fight? No I dont think so, but he will send all of our men and women into unnessary battles. I cant stand him. One hit to the gut and he's down for the count! lol
cscbill 3 years ago
I support Georgia!
Mike8734 3 years ago
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FrankCastlez 3 years ago 2
I dont think the Georginians terrorized by Putins army are feeling real nice right now.
karen32862 3 years ago 2
Obama was caught unaware because, at least temporarily, he though Russia invaded the US STATE of Georgia and he was worried about the effect of the unrest on the black voting demographic in Georgia. When informed that it was Georgia the COUNTRY he, due to his communist upbringing, had momentary lapse and thought that Russia was still communist and got a warm,pleasant feeling in his heart. When finally told that Russia wasn't communist he declared himself against the Russia aggression.
marcaGeronis 3 years ago 4
Obama has already flipped flopped on his staements. McCain was strong and right from the begininng. MCCAIN 08!
luke12191 3 years ago 3
Yeah you are correct Mccain did respond forcefully and war minded. So if he is elected be ready to fight war after war after war. Also have you rocks and sticks ready by front door, because we will run out of soldiers and that old fucker will institute a draft.
Be careful what you ask for ...you just might get it
Obama 08
cscbill 3 years ago
Can you please explain me, what interests does America has near the russian border?..of course if they are not hostile? democracy? when american leaders say this word in public it just calls a smirk. Every reasonable person would understand that Georgia would never had balls to provoke Russia on its own, by doing what they did, killing and bombing thousands of civilians.. Say hello to MaCcaine, he wants to became a president so much, be aware one day war may to your home
voron26 3 years ago
Once again Obama screws up by not knowing how to properly respond to this recent war like McCain did. this will only hurt Obama some more. Evry week there is something new that Obama does that he shoots himself in the foot.
1776USA08 3 years ago 5
Georgia had 2000 troops assisting us in Iraq, and is a staunch supporter of these United States. The reason we support them is because they support us.
That is what interest we have, and we should have helped them more.
TravisTCleveland 3 years ago
Travis, I could not agree with you more my friend.
ConservativeVoiceUSA 3 years ago 3
That may true, however Bush hesitated to respond because he knows in his heart he did the same thing. Big bully nations picking on smaller nations. Not cool!
Obama 08
cscbill 3 years ago
Perhaps you should stop listening to your State-run media. Our media never said the pipeline was under attack, they said that there were concerns that it might be attacked.
Silly Russians.
TravisTCleveland 3 years ago
hahaha, wow, because we care what Sweden thinks. :)
Sorry though, gotta delete your comment because you are not an American.
TravisTCleveland 3 years ago
Obama = Chamberlain
sllywbt 3 years ago 2
Please don't insult Chamberlain like that...
TheCollegePolitico 3 years ago 3
Hey Mr. Obama,
You solved our oil independency problem by having us all inflate our tires. Whatcha got for us on this one?
ClassicFIHD 3 years ago
Wake up America! Obama supposedly brokers a cease fire with Medviedev, and it is absolutely worthless. Does the world finally see how ignorant about the evil leaders of the world Obama really is? This is the sum total of his plan against Iran too, does anyone expect different results there?
pimpdalyrical 3 years ago 3
Obama has been in Hawaii...on 'vacation'?
He could be getting the best Fake Birth Certificate that Soros's millions can buy.
There could be some poorly paid Hawaiian State Officials who are sudden millionaires now.
It just seems awfully 'convenient' that Obama would be in Hawaii for a week, as this Birth Certifcate issue reaches critical mass right before the Convention.
SeekerNLife 3 years ago 3
Russia is using an old historical feud in Georgia to cloak their moves, after waging a masterful propaganda war about it.
Russia's oilfields are running out.
All of Russia's moves in recent few years have been about Oil:
- Claiming the North Pole last year.
- Aliance with Hugo Chavez.
- Aliance with Iran.
Gerogia has a key Oil Pipeline running through it from Azerbaijan, and 2 seaports important to Oil Transport.
It is not hard to connect the dots, once you know the facts.
SeekerNLife 3 years ago
From UK's Telegraph:
[Aug 11, 2008]
Russian jets targeted a key oil pipeline with over 50 missiles in a weekend bombing raid in Georgia...
Georgia is a crucial link in a three country energy corridor vital to Western Europe's oil and gas supply.
"They need control of energy routes," the Georgian president, Mikhail Saakashvili said. "They need sea ports. They need transportation infrastructure. And primarily, they want to get rid of us."
SeekerNLife 3 years ago
You blame Obama for visiting his grandma while this happened? He's not President! Your President Bush was playing volleyball at the Olympics while this was going on!
TuesdayAug4 3 years ago
"we don't fault Senator Obama for not halting his vacation," it's in the discription you silly Liberal.
Also, President Bush left China early to get to the White House.
Wow, you people will do anything to insult the President. Discusting.
TravisTCleveland 3 years ago
Putin, Sarkozy and Bush were all in Beijing,
Bush stayed longest, and Condi was on holiday as well.
Georgia attacked first.
Russia responded.
Russia got out. in less than a month.
dansmith1763 3 years ago
You are correct. It is nice to read a comment by someone who has checked the facts. Most people on YouTube just talk out of their butts repeating media lies without any thought and are annoyed when they hear the Truth. Thanks for sharing that and not letting ignorant loud mouths discourage you.
davidchenard 3 years ago
I am sorry BigMao13, but these are political videos for the 2008 Presidential Election, and as per my channel rules, non-Americans are not allowed to post here.
TravisTCleveland 3 years ago
obama doesn't have the balls.
3swelldogs3 3 years ago 3
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The US cannot tell Russia what to do! After Iraq they cannot lead anymore because when you're a drug addict it is hard to tell your children not to do drugs!You lead by example!The Georgian president provoked Russia thinking that the US will stand with him!Israel will wake up one day too!Let senile McCain touches Iran and the US will get a big spanking from China and Russia.
ILUVFUNKEYS345 3 years ago
Plenty of foolishness in your comment, but lemme see if I can get at the root of it:
Georgia and Iraq are completly differnt situations.
The United States is a member of NATO, and Russia would not dare stand up to NATO, which is one of the reasons they attacked Georgia now.
Silly Liberals. :)
TravisTCleveland 3 years ago
what an ass...dumb
sjvietboy408 3 years ago
Cheney led Saakashvili to believe that the Russians wouldn't dare take action if he moved Georgian troops into South Ossetia because of US support for the Saakashvili regime.
All Georgian regimes have been overthrown since their independence from the Soviet Union, and Saakashvili was trying to avoid the same fate.
Saakashvili ordered the invasion of South Ossetia for political reasons. The blood of all the innocent people that resulted, Georgian and South Ossetian, is on his hands.
EchelonMonitor 3 years ago