Rob was right to say that some villains did the smartest thing they would ever do, that is vote Boston Rob out. In Rob's 4th appearance in Survivor redemption island, his "Soldiers" were the stupidest Rob would ever want to align himself with.
@IAmTheBest35 look at my channel, i KNOW that Russell is the best, he did a GREAT job at Samoa, he blindsided everybody, but he was nice while he did it, when you swear on your kids life and make people cry and use it against them, you're not going to win, i just think Parvati got the best of that season, she blindsided people but didn't cross the line personally, Russell made lies he didn't have to make and tried to bully people into voting for him at the final tribal council.
@IceYourPimpHand "a leader must know the side of good, but if he must, he must also know how to take the side of evil." -niccolo macchiavelli
russell really had no choice, he was outnumbered in all his games from the start, he needs to get people to his side, parvati didn't need to cross the line since in the other previous games she had the majority and in this scenario russell had hidden immunity so it was up to him to use his diplomacy for strategic reasons.
@IAmTheBest35 Matthew is a castaway from Amazon... he placed second to Jenna Morasca... Shane Power is from Exile Island, placed fifth in his season...
both are known to be psychotic survivors to have played the game...
Redemption Island was pathetic. In my opinion, had Rob landed in Zapatera and Russell in Ometepe, I think things would of been VERY different. In Zapatera, most of the tribe mates were assertive; while in Ometepe everyone but Phillip and Kristina were passive.
That's the problem. They have only seen her as a coattail rider and a load that can be easily dispatched. Well, she won because she waswith the Heroes' in eliminating Russell and the only one who tried kicking him out. Add to that the fact that she told them not to trust Russel... and the fact that they ignored her...
The reason she won was because of her skills in going under the radar and Russel's misconception about her. Sandra should have been voted out if Russell just listened to Parvati.
@o0candikat0o It's not Rob-serving zombies... they just valued their tribe... at the very least, they eliminated the opponents before they turn to each other...
Rob is ONE of the ebst players of all time but he isn´t even close to the no. 1 spot. No good player needs 10 years, four tries and a bunch of amateurs to win ONCE. He played 4 seasons, sucked at two of them and was lucky to have star strucked people in one of them. Winning this game doesn´t mean anything. Its a bunch of people deciding whose gonna ge t a mil bugs. They are not robots and they are not gods so their decision is not the ultimate one. Most of the time its a decision of bitterness
@JaCkmArc0 winning doesn´t mean you are a great player. Its the way HOW you make it to the end that shows you are one. Rob only had a good game at one season which was all stars. This time it was almost effortless for him. As I said its the way how you make it to the final.
@imomfire SOß but Robs plan didn´t work instead Russells plan worked. You cant always take tyson as an excuse. And no Russell being voted out first doesn´t mean anything. His tribe didn´t play the game they just wanted to get rid of russell, they didn´t care what he was doing. He could have been the nicest person in the game and they still would have voted him out. Even the best soldier can´t win against a whole army. Zapatera got whiped out for that desicion which proves that they didn´t think
and btw, the fact that russell played two seasons in a row was to his advantage. if his tribemates knew how devious he was they would've never trusted him and would've been one of the few first people to be voted out. For example, tyson wouldnt have switched his vote, jerri wouldn't have switched alliances from rob to russell and Jt wouldn't have given his idol away knowing how he plays with girls by his side like in samoa.
first, who cares if russel played two straight seasons? so did amanda from fans vs. favourites and china. she made it to the end both times and got runner-up. russell just doesn't know how to win jury votes over, rob does. in redemption island rob blindsided a lot of people and was in control of who went home and when they did, but in the end STILL got their votes. if that's not a great player, i don't know what is.
OK, so he finally won (didn't know this when I wrote my comment). I'll admit his win in RI was impressive. Still, winning 1/4 attempts against a bunch of idiotic sheep doesn't make him the best ever, when most players only took *one* attempt to do so, and one player, Sandra, is 2/2. Argue all you want about bitter jurors, Tyson's idiocy, etc. but if you didn't win your season, you weren't the best your season. And 3/4 of the time, Rob wasn't the best.
@DJTEVAdotCOM He is boring. He had Russel's alliance outnumbered 6-3, and still couldn't get rid of him. Still, had him outnumbered 5-3, and Rob goes home instead of Russel. Rob has never done any such thing.
Damn, after I saw all stars as a kid, along with the proposal, I thought rob and amber were going to last for maybe 2 months. Thankfully, they showed me.The funniest part is that in actual shows about finding a perfect match like the bachelor and the bachelorette (which I've never seen, mind you), the relationships don't even last a month usually. Rob and amber met on survivor. That's true love.
Rob outlasted Russell on Redemption Island. Now we all know what would have happened on Heroes Villaians if the other contestants had seen Russell's previous seasons.
jeff recently said boston rob is the best player to ever play the game. He said he would bet on rob every single time. Obviously jeff knows what hes talking about.
@trackman94 I would bet on Rob man. Or if Todd was there, I would have bet on him too. Richard and ethan also. I would bet that Russel wont win, cause he hasn't learn how to explain humbly to the jury's. Unless he has really learn in the next season, i'll be betting for him to win.
I am as sick of boston rob as I am of Russell. Both equally annoying. Rob seemed a bit nicer and less of an arrogant jerk this time but if you watched season 8 (all stars) he was so obnoxious. Russell needed a break, doing back to back is tough especially since these 2 seasons were so close. That'sthe only thing I feel sorry for when it comes to Russell lol
@JaymsStapleton The dirtier player who plays the game end up losing. He just makes it to the end. He doesn't know how to play dirty and then clean his mess up by humble himself to the juries so they will give him their vote. He just remains dirty and he gets no vote. Sandra was on team Rob. She won survivor cause she knew there was no need to get rid of Russel anymore since everyone in the jury hated him. Russel should learn from Todd (winner of survivor china)
ok people need to stop whining about Russell having the advantage...this are the best players they should blame themselves for not being good enough to outsmart Russell
Rob's gameplay would have been more interesting than Russell's. sure Russell was cool back in the Samoa days, but now its just "find an idol/yell at my alliance/play idol/repeat"
Acutally. Rob outsmarted Russell, but Tyson was dumb enough to vote for Parvati like Russell told him to instead of voting for Russell like Rob told him to. Rob's strategy was better. Jerri was just dumb enough to jump ship.
Pt1/3 How did Rob outsmart Russell? He said it right to the camera, that if rob was smart enough he would split the vote. Russell may not have charm but he does seem to have an influence over people. Rob had a superior alliance and Russell still beat him. Russell thought they might split the vote; he also thought they might vote Parveti, the idea that they would vote strictly for him I aint that stupid.
Pt2/3 Russell may not have known EXACTUALY how it would play out that night but he had an idea; a better one than rob. Robs strategy (which Russell knew was a possibility) was better on a mechanical level; were everything is predictable, but thats not how the game is played! Russell went for the idol because thats how hes used to playing; rob gathered a strong alliance because thats how hes used to playing.
Pt3/3 In both seasons Russell used his idols and influence (in several instances) to get people to flip alliances and votes. The game has changed old man rob, get with it or GET OUT!
Russell has a huge unfair advantage over all the other players. HvsV began filming as soon as Samoa wrapped. When they all met for HvsV everyone was familiar with everyone else from previous seasons, except for Russell. Samoa hadn't aired yet, so no one knew just how sneaky and conniving Russell really is. If they had all seen Russell in action I'm sure BR wouldn't have taken him so lightly, and would still be in the game. I just wish he could have lasted long enough to be on the jury. :(
I actually rooted for Russell all through Samoa and couldn't believe that Natalie won after ridng Russell's coattails all season, so your comment has kind of fallen flat. I just personally prefer to watch BR. I think he's more entertaining to me, that's all. Just an opinion. BTW - differing opinions doesn't mean one is right and one is wrong. To each his own - youknow.
@my2cents2u I prefer watching Rob too. He kinda have that X Factor. He went on Amazing race and arrived first 3 times in a row. He came Runner up in the finals of the Amazing race with Amber.
@my2cents2u true that the players not knowing him in an advantage for him because they don't know how he plays the game but it is more of a disadvantage to him than an advantage for what you don't realize is the other players do know each other as alot of them go to all the survivor special events. Basically not only do they know each others game but they know each other on a more personal level as well. Can you say instant aliance.
@my2cents2u Actually it's been rumored that many of the castaways knew about Russell and had info on him. plus they were all told that he was there for a reason. out of 19 seasons they took a guy who was on the last season before 20 that has to say something. Then if you still say he had an advantage what about all those who played with each other and where friends outside the game? doesn't that give them an advantage over russell?
@3eau2aniel Boston Rob came close to getting rid of Russel. It all comes down to 1 name, 3 votes Russel, 3 votes Rob, 1 vote left. But Robs name came down. Had it been Russel. Rob might have won dis season. Russel will just made it till the end. Parvati rides Russels coatails. Sandra didn't, she was on Robs team. She found a way to be in the final 3, and she won. Danielle had been voted out. But Russel in my oppinion is 1 of the most smartest player I've seen. He sees thru the game plan somehow.
@my2cents2u to be fair they were all warned how good he was and how he became one of the biggest villains in just 1 season, so if they didn't take it seriously enough its their fault. Obviously it went in his favour, he was incredibly successful in the first 2 seasons when no one really knows much about him but is one of the first players to leave in the recent season, i still think he's the best player in history though.
@my2cents2u Its actually a disadvantage, because the smart person would quickly voted him out because of what a potential danger he is, Jeff probst told them how he became the biggest villian in just 1 season even without the viewers seeing him yet, if they didn't take that seriously enough, then they all deserve to be walking home with Rob.
Classy final words from Rob, A humble guy who takes defeat like a man. Hey Lex you paying attention?
Rob outsmarted Russel last week but Tyson is super Dumb. Oh well. Simply said Russel would not last long in the old days where there were no hidden immunity idols. He doesn't have the charm like Rob does.
That being said I am cheering for Russel because he is still entertaining to watch.
@sugarmesweet rob never outsmarted russell? russell outsmarted him that's why rob's gone... russell beat rob fair and square so how does that make rob best player of all time? his overrated... russell is the best survivor of all time !!!
@SuperSkuxxDeluxx russel did not outsmart him. russell just got extremely lucky that coach and t yson were stupid and screwed up even tho they both favored rob over russell. russell had nothing to do with coach and tysons mistakes that made rob lose. all he did was swing jerri. if coach hadnt wasted a vote rob and russel wouldve tied and im pretty sure rob would beat russel in 9/10 challenges. your just biased against rob and u dont want to admit that rob outsmarted russel
@fernando763 your so stupid... russell DID oursmart rob... first he told tyson that he was going to vote parvati tricking tyson into voting parvati also, if russell hadn't did this then tyson would've stuck to the plan... and for coach, russel made him promise to vote out rob and not turn on him coach is a man of his word.. so russell took advantage of that he either was going to vote rob or courtney didn't matter becus he already convinced jerri to pur rob's name down...
@SuperSkuxxDeluxx im pretty sure none of that wouldve happened if everyone knew how russell played. samoa aired after heroes vs villains was filmed. if tyson knew how russell played he may not have believed him and he would know russell is just as much of a threat as parvati. also jerri would know that russell was just as untrustworthy as rob and coach wouldve known russell was very dishonorable and he wouldnt have promised not to vote for him.
@SuperSkuxxDeluxx russell has a very unfair advantage over everyone else. even if he didnt have this advantage and he beat rob JT wouldnt have given him the idol.
@fernando763 look at you tryna change the subject... russell didn't have a unfair advantage over rob, becoz rob had more numbers, russell was just better at playing the game then rob was, stop trying to make exscuses...
@SuperSkuxxDeluxx russell lost his possibility at ever having the numbers advantage by going after the idol. u know iim right. your only comeback is stop making excuses. everything i said is true and you know it is
@fernando763 exactly RUSSELL HAD LESS NUMBERS... if russell didn't look for the idol, he wouldn't have got rid of tyson and rob, instead he would've been riding on rob's back like the others did, but he didn't do that he wanted a shift of powers and he did that, russell won fair and square, and everything i said is true and you know it is....
@SuperSkuxxDeluxx nope. this is what happens: russell goes after the idol losing any possibility of a numbers advantage. then his unfair advantage of nobody knowing his strategy kicks in and he beats rob.
@fernando763 no. this is what happens: rob's reputation already has an affect on them causing them to side with him russell can either ride on his back aswell... or take him out, and he beat rob fair and square...
@fernando763 Alright, just because Russel played the game really well last season, and everyone else did not see how he played does not mean it is an unfair advantage, for anyone else could of decided to play that way. Its not like Russell has secret powers or something, anyone else could play the way he did.
Pt1/3 How did Rob outsmart Russell? He said it right to the camera, that if rob was smart enough he would split the vote. Russell may not have charm but he does seem to have an influence over people. Rob had a superior alliance and Russell still beat him. Russell thought they might split the vote; he also thought they might vote Parveti, the idea that they would vote strictly for him I aint that stupid.
@SomeCanadianGuy01 ok dude, rob laid it out specifically to his alliance to split the votes. that would've gotten either parvarti OR russel out. tyson was just stupid enough to switch his vote because he thought parvarti was such a big threat. so russell never outsmarted rob. he only outsmarted tyson. and let's see, who ended up winning in the end? SANDRA, not russell. and who won now in redemption island? ROB. he was smart enough to make friends with his tribe whereas russel made enemies of his
@shortiexxerica First of all, why are you responding to comments posted over a year ago? Second, I was just angry that everybody wasn’t giving Russell any credit. Finally, Rob is clearly a good player (as we saw this season); why do you have to go sifting through year’s worth of comments to start a fight?
Pt2/3 Russell may not have known EXACTUALY how it would play out that night but he had an idea; a better one than rob. Robs strategy (which Russell knew was a possibility) was better on a mechanical level; were everything is predictable, but thats not how the game is played! Russell went for the idol because thats how hes used to playing; rob gathered a strong alliance because thats how hes used to playing.
Pt3/3 In both seasons Russell used his idols and influence (in several instances) to get people to flip alliances and votes. The game has changed old man rob, get with it or GET OUT!
@sugarmesweet I really don't understand when people say Rob (or Russell, or Amanda, etc.) is the best player ever IF THEY HAVEN'T WON. Whether or not you personally agree or disagree with certain tactics or voting, the game clearly has one winner each season. I don't disagree that Rob is a really exciting player to watch, but he. has. not. won. This season notwithstanding, he's played three times and didn't even make the jury in two of those seasons. Best ever? Not even close.
@sugarmesweet How did Rob outsmart Russell that week? Robs plan failed, then he was voted out by russell the next week, thats not outsmarting Russell, thats russell out smarting Rob.
@imomfire *Facepalm* and Russell gave tyson a reason into flipping his vote, russell puts himself first, he's not going to go home for parvati, so he knew by giving parvati the idol, tyson would had most likely wasted his vote and it will be a 1 vote difference sending tyson home. Rob was completely outplayed that season, russell squashed him like a bug even with the odds against him.
@IceYourPimpHand it was a good move by russel, but its not out smarting rob, its out smarting tyson, if tyson just stuck to what rob said then parvati or russel would of went home
@imomfire That move cost Rob the whole game, he was the next villian to go, how is that not outsmarting Rob? Russell managed to flip 1 of his allience, and confused the other, it makes no sense to say that russell didn't outsmart Rob, because russell ended up voting him off.
I think you forgot Rob's aim in setting a triple play... that was for the idol to be used to save either Russell or Parvati... and force a revote... that will ensure either Russell or Parvati eliminated...
Although Russell should be given an alliance in flipping Jerri on the next tribal council...
@IceYourPimpHand Actually, the opinion about this matter depends on how you look at things. On one point, Russell might have tricked Tyson through Parvati...
however, on another, we can also see that half of Rob's plan came into fruition. Tyson just freaked out since he's seeing Parvati more as a threat than Russell...
@yamamotokun80 I dont think Tyson was that dumb, Russell made it clear that he was going to give his vote to parvati and save himself, giving tyson no reason to vote for Russell when it would just be a waste. At the end of the day, Russell voted out Rob, Russell didn't just lay around and pray to God that Rob would go, he got off his ass and took out the man who just lays around threatning people and talks a truck load of trash to players he's never even seen before.
@IceYourPimpHand In a sense, you're right about Tyson not being that dumb; he's just went with his instincts. However, Tyson failed to see the big picture in Rob's plans.
Despite his genius, Russell also made 3 bad decisions in the game...
1. He eliminated Coach instead of Courtney after Rob got voted out.
2. He eliminated Courtney instead of Sandra after Coach got voted out.
3. He voted out Jerri instead of Parvati during Day 38. (actually, this one is more of a lose-lose-lose situation)
He could take johnny fairplay to the end and still lose. But Russell never voted for Coach, despite what the producers try to make it look like, it clearly shows him voting for Courtney at the end. I dont see a difference between Courtney or Sandra, both of them are willing to flip or run their mouths about the plan to the heroes. Russell's flaw in the game is his lying, swearing on his kids life and giving players false hope is why he didn't win, his strategy comes with a side effect of Karma.
@IceYourPimpHand Sorry about number 1... definitely my mistake... it was his alliance...
Well, I think the reason why Russell didn't win Samoa and HvV is because of his behavior during Final TC. Although his actions were no different from the others, it was his behavior that made him lose.
Concerning Sandra and Courtney... Hantz should have known Sandra's ability to play along with other people's lies. He just focused on Courtney's "loose cannon" personality that's why he voted her out..
In Samoa he played a flawless game, people say he played too agressive, but he entered the merge 4-8 with none of them that willing to flip anytime soon, if he didn't play like he did, he'd be the 2nd person voted out after the merge. Whats he suppose to do at final tribal? I'd rather vote for somebody thats telling the truth, rather than handing out complete obvious bullshit. It was a bitter jury, he deserved to win THAT season. But i would've voted out Courtney instead of Sandra.
@IceYourPimpHand You're definitely right about Russell playing an almost-perfect game in Samoa to bring himself. Mick and Natalie to the Final 3.
As I see it, his problem is he rubbed off the jury during the FTC. If he just "used the right words", he would have had $2M... he adds insult to the injury instead of logically defending his actions. Compare him to the Richard and Brian... both jerkasses in their seasons but those guys knew what to say to the jury in order to win.
Give him a break, the 2 seasons he played was only 10 days apart, and at the first FTC the jury didnt make it too obvious who they were going to vote for, unlike at the HvV the jury just about mentally bashed the hell out of him, so he didn't learn from his mistakes the first time because he never got the chance understand it. When he returned for his 3rd season he clearly knew that he was aware of his flaw, but obviously he never got the chance to correct it. He could very well win the 4th time
@IceYourPimpHand But he should have learned "using the right words in FTC" from watching the previous seasons, especially how Amanda sucked at FTC along with Twila and Rob (during All Stars)...
@yamamotokun80 Russell's FTC speech does need work, but if you look at ponderosa, they ALL hate him, so much that everytime they hear his name they get angry, it doesn't matter what he says, nobody will vote for him even if his speech is right.
@yamamotokun80 Both times the jury didn't like russell, no speech could had saved him from losing, they despised him, a speech only does so much. Russell makes extremely big moves and Blindsides, more than Richard and Brian put together, the fact that a coattial rider won a season full of the best players just proves how bitter the jury is.
@IceYourPimpHand So were Brian and Richard... they were the most hated in their seasons, but still, they managed to win because of the way they delivered themselves in the jury. If Russell have not contacted the "Amanda Kimmel" syndrome, he would have won... especially if his opponents are coattail riders
If you have watched HvV, the jury were more objective than on Samoa... however, because of his "Amanda-ness", they got pissed... if he got his FTC good, he might have got the Heroes' votes
FTC speech doesn't give you the win, i swore on his kids life and pissed people off, watch Ponderosa, they despised him, why would they believe anything he says when he lied the whole game, he can't bring up the "good guy" card when they've all seen him make huge lies. And Parvati was one of the reasons to why the heroes got flushed out, but she never lied or backstabbed them, she just silently played the game without causing fights, i'm 100% a russell fan, but he had no chance to win.
@IceYourPimpHand Actually, several other players have done that too... the lying, cheating and the backstabbing... I think I should watch Ponderosa to know more of the jury's reactions... I just talked how the jury voted during FTC's.
On another note, Parvati is good because she knows what to say to the jury to win, unlike Russell. Parvati sure learned her lesson during CI where her tribe got Pagonged by the Aitu 4. Besidesm her brillian t move there was to eliminate Jonathan before her.
@yamamotokun80 Parvati played the victom at HvV FTC, she kept saying that she was never able to get away from Russell, and she took him as her only option, Russell would need to come up with a GENUIS speech in order to win that season, i sure as hell wouldn't even know where to start, Russell bullshits his way through the game, saying whatever it takes, but he fell short at the last second and wasn't able to charm when he needed to do the most, if think he put himself in too deep in a hole.
@IceYourPimpHand Parvati took advantage of the Russell's bad reputation and turned it to favor her. She only said that she had no choice but to team up with Russell but she did not really say that she let Russell decide everything... she made some bold moves during that season... and besides, there are times where she moves on her own instead of following Hantz like eliminating Coach and as well as giving 2 idols.
@yamamotokun80 Without Russell she wouldn't be in the final 3, its a fact. Parvati deserved to win that season, i'm not saying that Russell did, but the only reason that i dont think Russell deserves to win that season is because of his behavior, he made 0 effort to be nice to anybody or get their vote, he may be able to bully and scare people in the game to do what he wants, but when they're at FTC none of them are afraid of him because he's got no power towards them, but sandra shouldn't win.
@IceYourPimpHand I agree with you about Parv won't be in the final 3 w/out Hantz. However, she was just waiting for Hantz ro move and instead made her own decisions. Russell should have won if he just acted like Yul (this man is truly a great social player)
Sandra deserved to win that season. At the very least, she managed to survive without being eliminated and besides, Hantz just underestimated her... or he's just unaware of her "as long as it ain't me" strategy and the lie-riding...
@yamamotokun80 I dont like sandra and i really dont think she's a great player, but she's played twice and won twice, so its stupid for me to sit here and say she's useless, but i still think Parvati should had won, and not somebody who wasn't capable of reaching any goals in her season besides winning, she kept saying she wanted to vote out Russell, and the 1 attempt she made to trick russell didn't even work in the end. I truely think lightning stuck twice in Sandra's gameplay, Just pure luck
@IceYourPimpHand Her strategy was half luck and half skill. She's just going with the flow and tries to do things for herself and her alliance.
On another note, I notices that aside from rubbing off people in FTC, Russel's also quarelling with the heroes. He should have avoided that at the very least.
I think a good survivor can play survivor and dominate all the game, Sandra is good at FTC, but getting there is just COMPLETE luck for her, if they wanted to, they could vote her off in a blink. I'm 100% sure that she won't ever get to the end again, the "i'm useless" Strategy will obviously not work more than 2 times. I agree that Russell made NO attempt to get on the Heroes good side, calling rupert a dumbass and laughing when they walk off after getting voted off is asking for trouble.
@IceYourPimpHand Agreeing with Russel not going for the Heroes' good side...
Considering Sandra's strategy... she might be targeted for her lack of physical skill, but her social skills (although not that better than Cirie's is still a huge advantage). Besides, having the "vote-selling" strategy is also a good strategy, especially for game-changing moves...She's just applying what Richard had set.
@yamamotokun80 I see very little strategy in Sandra's game, she is great at FTC, but the only reason she's gotton there twice is because nobody thinks she'll win, now that she's won twice, its over for her, NOBODY will take her there again, unless she comes up with a new strategy, she's never going to even come close to winning again.
When she was in Bostons Robs alliance and Russell was voting them out, she didn't nothing at all, and just sat around and prayed to God she wouldn't be next, the only strategy she did before the merge was try to trick Russell into voting for Coach, which wasn't even needed. Sandra just walks behind bushes and listens in people talking, threatning to cut peoples throats even though she's never been capable of voting people off, and call people stupid ass's, and yet she always wins, its pathetic.
@IceYourPimpHand When Tyson was voted off, she still believed that they were 5... however, when Rob was voted out, she had to do some moves... but considering her sporadic actions, she's effective... besides, if Russ and Parv would me more strategic, they should have figured out that Sandra was the one behind Coach's elimination rather than Courtney,,, she should have been targeted than the loose cannon... they were blinded by her physical ability...
I don't think anybody took her seriously enough, it did seem like she was causing a lot of trouble and they never took it incredibly seriously, i feel the reason she won is because she was the only one who told the heroes about Russell playing them all, and only 1 person listened, taking her to the end was very stupid when she HATED Russell just as much as the Heroes did, unlike Parvati who was his right hand girl, i just dont think her strategic skills are worth winning, unless she wins again.
@IceYourPimpHand That's the problem. They have only seen her as a coattail rider and a load that can be easily dispatched. Well, she won because she was with the Heroes' in eliminating Russell and the only one who tried kicking him out. she also told them not to trust Russel... and the fact that they ignored her...
The reason she won was because of her skills in going under the radar and Russel's misconception about her. Sandra should have been voted out if Russell just listened to Parvati.
@yamamotokun80 Russell didn't know that she was trying to help out the heroes, he doesn't get to see the things we do, so its a lot harder to know what the jury thinks about other players. Sandra see's the big picture, she doesn't seem to be doing anything, but slowely she's making more and more reasons to why they should vote for her in the end, but the only reason she'll ever get to the end is because the dominate player doesn't think she'll win, after winning 2 times, will they do it again?
@IceYourPimpHand well, Parvati doesn't think what Russell thinks... it's truly Russel's misconception about people that lead to his downfall... Russell is a great player... but he should have watched the previous seasons carefully because it seemed that he did not learn from those seasons... especially Borneo, Thailand, Pearl Islands, All Stars, Vanuatu and Guatemala...
@yamamotokun80 I agree, Russell plays a unstoppable Mid game, in a way, its incredibly lazy, he doesn't think about the jury, instead he'll try to deal with them at the last second, just like ignoring a task you have to do, then panicing and quickly trying to finish it when the time is up, it never works. If Russell made more of an effort, then he'd be the best. But its stupid that the jury gets so sensitive and emotional, they can be such sore losers, Russell deserved at least 2nd in HvV.
@IceYourPimpHand Actually, the jury could either be hurt or bitter... however, the jury still respects people as a player. That's why many survivors win... because the jury deemed them as a worthy player... On russell's case, he's a good player but no one in the jury respected his game.. it's not that it's too cutthroat but becaus eof russell's actions and behavior. He's a jerkass genius.
On him being second in HvV, i still think he deserved 3rd... Parvati is good in this season like Sandra.
@yamamotokun80 Parvati sat on Russells shoulder like a pretty little birdy, but yet claimed to be in control. Parvati didn't do anything that russell didn't do. Russell just went over the top.
@IceYourPimpHand Parvati was actually making a good strategy by allowing Russell to take control and get the blame from the Heroes' tribe while making some independent actions... just like a bad boss would do... Try looking at other people's views as well....
@yamamotokun80 I've been reading your views and then expressing mine, don't turn into an emotional girl on me that doesn't feel noticed, i'm respecting your opinions.
Parvati played the idol to jerri, sending her home, she was the reason the heroes went down like dominoes, and yet none of them held that against her, its just amazing that they had such a bitter attitude towards Russell, when he didn't do anything that parvati didn't, i just feel that the Jury was very Biased no reason
@IceYourPimpHand I'm not turning into an emotional girl... I'm just clearly saying that you must view the game from other perspectives. No emotions attached. Thanks for respecting my opinions so far.
Actually, if you would look at it, that's not the one who sealed the Heroes' fate. it was the next Tribal council where Candace jumped to the Villains side. And with that mentioned, there's another chance too... if Sandra would just team up with Rupert and Colby after Danielle was voted off.
I agree that Candice did make the Villians job a lot easier by flipping, it was a stupid move and i have no idea why she didn't try to get Sandra, she doesn't seem like such a strategic player if she thinks the villians would take her to the end. And the thing that confuses me, is that Sandra did have multiple times to blindside Russell, she talked about it all season, but never tried, and later said it just never panned out. I dont think she's the sharpest tool in the shed, at all.
@IceYourPimpHand Actually, she did her best to convince and implement her plan with the Heroes, however, her plans just did not come true because of the Heroes' boneheadedness. of coming to Russell everytime something would happen.
About not being the sharpest tool in the shed, Candace and Sandra are really not the sharpest tools. They have big flaws on one point and another... the former being a traitor while the latter being lame.
I was still wondering if Todd(China) were in this game...
Candice could had put the Heroes in control, but once again, she flipped. It pissed me off to see Sandra miss out so many chances, they could had just voted out parvati THEN Russell, like the heroes wanted. To me, it just didn't seem like the heroes were trying to hard to get Sandra, I'm glad they were voted off 1 by 1. Some of those players shouldn't had been brought back, strategically they are horrible and pretty much layed down and waited to be voted off, they were not All Stars, just lazy.
@IceYourPimpHand Well, that why Heroes are heroes, they are gullible. I totally expected it from Candace since I watched her original season, she jumped from one dominant alliance to the other just to be voted out... they took Sandra for granted... especially Rupert... he should have trusted her since they belong to the same season...
I agree with you about some of the cast not really strategic, just dumb. Kinda annoying that Sugar and Steph got out fast. Both were good in their seasons.
@yamamotokun80 you're 100% right about heroes being gullible, Villians are named Villians because they are strategical and will do whatever it takes to get to the end, Heroes are nice, and don't want to step on anyone's toes, that strategy will work if you're in the final 3 infront of the jury. Amanda was useless, which was a shock to me, and JT made the dumbest move i've ever seen, it just proves that JT did so well in Tocantins because Stephen was there to help him every step of the way.
@IceYourPimpHand Well, in Amanda's case, she's more of the person who is effective when in a good environment... she's good in China and Micronesia since her allies are good but in HvV, she was stuck with dumb people and she then became dumb. In JT's case, he only won because many hated Stephen and riding Stephen's plans.also, because of JT, Cirie was voted out. that's a little bummer for me. I was hoping for Cirie to do stuff. But that's her karma for Yau-man's defeat in Micronesia.
@yamamotokun80 I do feel sorry for Amanda in that part, her alliance would had been incredibly hard to work with, but in Samoa, none of Russell's alliance had a brain, and yet he was able to take over the game like it was nothing. It did seem a lot of the good players was voted out early, Tom, Cirie, Rob, i've got to say, it was one of the most agressive seasons i've ever seen in a while.
@IceYourPimpHand Yeah, and considering the previous season, HvV is truly exciting. IMO, this season was just like All-Stars, except for the part that the opposing tribe did not get Pagonged too easily.
Anyways, I still wonder how the Heroes did not consider dealing with Russell through Sandra's help. Setting aside the fact that Heroes were dumb, I still wonder why the heroes would go for Russell to confront him for their impending doom. Considering that they were not Ometepe tribe (cult).
@yamamotokun80 The fact that Sandra told the heroes about Russell, and they still didn't listen, shocked the hell out of me. At the start Jeff said that Russell made it into the top 10 biggest Villians history, and yet they give me an idol not knowing anything about him, and the only thing they do know about him is that he's a big villian, the heroes had to be the worst tribe in history, right there next to Zapatera, some people make horrible choices.
@IceYourPimpHand Just revealed that JT won because of the jury's blindness. And also, JT is revealed to have a brain size of a walnut. But then again, being surrounded by idiots might have shrunk his already small brain. Well, another mystery to me is the fact that Parvati did not try and eliminate Russell. IF she had done that, she would have won and hailed as the best.
another note, Zapatera is great in voting out Russell early. Ometepe just let Rob dominate the game.
@yamamotokun80 True, if parvati voted off russell near the end, she would had won for sure. Voting out Russell was a horrible move, they threw a challenge when they were only 2 people infront, and then they had to play with Rob, who was 10x smarter than any of them, i would had backstabbed Russell after he voted off Rob after the merge, if he was able to of course, but voting off Russell gave Ometepe a HUGE advantage of having an experienced player on their side.
Zapatera made two horrible moves. One is that they gave up a challenge to vote out Russell rather than voting out Russell when they inevitably lost. They took precautionary measures way too early in the game. They could have at least waited fro the right time to vote out Russell. Second, they did not try to convince MAtt to join their side. Matt just came back from Redemption and he could have forced a tie for the Zapatera.
Thats true, Ralph had the hidden idol, and none of the 6 was ever going to flip, despite what we've seen in history, Russell wasn't going to be able to take control of the game anytime soon, but yet they still started to panic, I personally would use him to my advantage and hang on to him while he does what he does best at the merge, but if i was to enter the merge with the majoraty numbers, then i'd regret keeping him around. Matt is just a idiot, he should be on big brother, not survivor.
@IceYourPimpHand Even though it's idiotic, the action done by the Zapatera is justified since Russell is starting to form bonds with Stephanie and Krista... they saw that too and voted out the two girls... about Matt, he's strong but he's really dumb. He should have talked to the Zapatera and not to Rob...
I still doubt if he will win Big Brother... BB is kinda like Survivor too.. the housemates vote out other people and not the audience...
@yamamotokun80 lol, what kind of big brother have you been watching? The big brother that i used to watch, the housemates would nominate 3 people to go up for elimination, then the public chooses who goes home, people like Rob and Russell would master it, being extremely strategic yet being loved by the audience, Matt is a gullible fool, i dont go to my girlfriend, say that i considered sleeping with another girl, then expect my girlfriend not to slap me across the face.
@IceYourPimpHand The BB that I am referring to was the US version Seasons 2 and above because I thought you're living in the US. The BB format that you're familiar with is similar to the Philippine version of BB.
Well, Matt is definitely dumb. The only interesting thing in that season is to learn how to manipulate others and turn a tribe into a cult. At least, if you're bored with it... you can watch Philip's senseless shenanigans and Matt's "hopelessly dumb and dark future"
Redemption island wasn't good at all, Russell = entertainment, and he only lasted 4 episodes, NOBODY woke the hell up and tried to vote off Rob in his alliance, and nobody flipped the whole season, it was just plain and boring. Whenever a tribe enters the merge with numbers, and they stick together, it makes boring TV because you can predict the whole season, and be right. I'm hoping they're going to make another 'All Star' season again, although i'm curious to know what 2 players are returning.
@IceYourPimpHand In a sense, yeah, Russell made the game unpredictable... but not on the third time I guess... maybe on the fourth
About next season, I doubt if you'll be interested to know the two returning players... one was C_ _ _ _ (Tocantins, HvH) and the other was O _ _ _ (CI, Micro) that's according to the recent news. I would have wished for a whole meaningful pair like Yul - Ozzy, Matthew - Shane, and other pairs that has either a rivalry or foils to one another.
@yamamotokun80 I did hear about that, the only reason i have trouble believing that is because they've never played a season together, and Coach isn't a strategically player compared to Ozzy, its kind of like putting a Pitbull against a bunny rabit, but Coach sure is entertaining to watch, i hope they put a rivaly as well, just like they did with Rob and Russell, expect hopefully this time both of the players will make it to the merge, so it isn't just a waste.
@IceYourPimpHand Sorry for the late reply. You're absolutely right.... O (this is for others who still did not know the name...) could have survived until the merge, and besides, he's kind... although I doubt if C (he's just an attention grabber) would make it past the merge... although he's entertaining to watch, he could be annoying for the players of the game.
@chitownboyz ...yeah Rob was talking mad shit everytime he cast his vote and even to Russell....he underestimated how much Russell loves and is obsessed with this game! Now he knows not to mess with him but its too late for his Bitch ass and i liked Rob in the beginning but then he kept talking shit to Russell so that pissed me off! Rob should of left it alone! Kourtney was the weak link! Her skinny useless ass!!
I like both Russell and Rob, and I'm glad Rob accepts his defeat like man, unlike those crybabies Lex, Alicia and Bog-Tom...
Both Rob and Russell should've won their previous seasons, and they both lost because of a jury of crybabies, which is also the case for Colby, Twila, Stephanie, Dreamz, Sugar and Stephen...
Thats b.s...he called Russell the little man. This guy is such a dope and deserves to go home, in fact he souldnt have been brought back. Him and his low class wife ruined allstars, even jeff said it was the worst survivor ever.
Rob was right to say that some villains did the smartest thing they would ever do, that is vote Boston Rob out. In Rob's 4th appearance in Survivor redemption island, his "Soldiers" were the stupidest Rob would ever want to align himself with.
Anonyomousful 3 months ago 5
@IAmTheBest35 look at my channel, i KNOW that Russell is the best, he did a GREAT job at Samoa, he blindsided everybody, but he was nice while he did it, when you swear on your kids life and make people cry and use it against them, you're not going to win, i just think Parvati got the best of that season, she blindsided people but didn't cross the line personally, Russell made lies he didn't have to make and tried to bully people into voting for him at the final tribal council.
IceYourPimpHand 7 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand "a leader must know the side of good, but if he must, he must also know how to take the side of evil." -niccolo macchiavelli
russell really had no choice, he was outnumbered in all his games from the start, he needs to get people to his side, parvati didn't need to cross the line since in the other previous games she had the majority and in this scenario russell had hidden immunity so it was up to him to use his diplomacy for strategic reasons.
ultradumbass 3 months ago
@IAmTheBest35 Matthew is a castaway from Amazon... he placed second to Jenna Morasca... Shane Power is from Exile Island, placed fifth in his season...
both are known to be psychotic survivors to have played the game...
yamamotokun80 7 months ago
Redemption Island was pathetic. In my opinion, had Rob landed in Zapatera and Russell in Ometepe, I think things would of been VERY different. In Zapatera, most of the tribe mates were assertive; while in Ometepe everyone but Phillip and Kristina were passive.
DiamondUD 8 months ago
That's the problem. They have only seen her as a coattail rider and a load that can be easily dispatched. Well, she won because she waswith the Heroes' in eliminating Russell and the only one who tried kicking him out. Add to that the fact that she told them not to trust Russel... and the fact that they ignored her...
The reason she won was because of her skills in going under the radar and Russel's misconception about her. Sandra should have been voted out if Russell just listened to Parvati.
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
The redemption Island players were NOT smart, they were Rob-serving zombies.
o0candikat0o 9 months ago
@o0candikat0o It's not Rob-serving zombies... they just valued their tribe... at the very least, they eliminated the opponents before they turn to each other...
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
Rob is ONE of the ebst players of all time but he isn´t even close to the no. 1 spot. No good player needs 10 years, four tries and a bunch of amateurs to win ONCE. He played 4 seasons, sucked at two of them and was lucky to have star strucked people in one of them. Winning this game doesn´t mean anything. Its a bunch of people deciding whose gonna ge t a mil bugs. They are not robots and they are not gods so their decision is not the ultimate one. Most of the time its a decision of bitterness
JaCkmArc0 9 months ago
@JaCkmArc0 winning doesn´t mean you are a great player. Its the way HOW you make it to the end that shows you are one. Rob only had a good game at one season which was all stars. This time it was almost effortless for him. As I said its the way how you make it to the final.
Russell working his ass off
Parvati working her ass off
Rob working his ass off (All Stars)
Ozzy and Yul working their asses off
Tom working his ass off
Thats what makes a good player.
JaCkmArc0 9 months ago
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You don´t have to win to be the best player. Just look at sandra. Shes won twice but is she better than Rob, Russel, Parvati and co? hell no.
JaCkmArc0 9 months ago
@JaCkmArc0 robs plan would of worked and got russel out but tyson was stupid.
so because russel got voted out early in season 22..does that mean hes not even close to the first spot/
imomfire 9 months ago
@imomfire SOß but Robs plan didn´t work instead Russells plan worked. You cant always take tyson as an excuse. And no Russell being voted out first doesn´t mean anything. His tribe didn´t play the game they just wanted to get rid of russell, they didn´t care what he was doing. He could have been the nicest person in the game and they still would have voted him out. Even the best soldier can´t win against a whole army. Zapatera got whiped out for that desicion which proves that they didn´t think
JaCkmArc0 9 months ago
and btw, the fact that russell played two seasons in a row was to his advantage. if his tribemates knew how devious he was they would've never trusted him and would've been one of the few first people to be voted out. For example, tyson wouldnt have switched his vote, jerri wouldn't have switched alliances from rob to russell and Jt wouldn't have given his idol away knowing how he plays with girls by his side like in samoa.
shortiexxerica 9 months ago
first, who cares if russel played two straight seasons? so did amanda from fans vs. favourites and china. she made it to the end both times and got runner-up. russell just doesn't know how to win jury votes over, rob does. in redemption island rob blindsided a lot of people and was in control of who went home and when they did, but in the end STILL got their votes. if that's not a great player, i don't know what is.
shortiexxerica 9 months ago
OK, so he finally won (didn't know this when I wrote my comment). I'll admit his win in RI was impressive. Still, winning 1/4 attempts against a bunch of idiotic sheep doesn't make him the best ever, when most players only took *one* attempt to do so, and one player, Sandra, is 2/2. Argue all you want about bitter jurors, Tyson's idiocy, etc. but if you didn't win your season, you weren't the best your season. And 3/4 of the time, Rob wasn't the best.
thatsbriiskbaby 9 months ago
i hate this Rob ...hes shady and worse the RUSSEL
DJTEVAdotCOM 10 months ago
@DJTEVAdotCOM He is boring. He had Russel's alliance outnumbered 6-3, and still couldn't get rid of him. Still, had him outnumbered 5-3, and Rob goes home instead of Russel. Rob has never done any such thing.
Polarcupcheck 9 months ago
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mimimiumiu006 10 months ago
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mimimiumiu006 10 months ago
Rob is the best survivor player in the whole entire game.
I read somewhere that this season (2011) is his last :'( And Russell isn't coming back either.
VCAndrewsForever 10 months ago 7
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wrongamount 8 months ago
@wrongamount He would have had his revenge if he would have beaten Russell one on one. Unfortunately he didn´t. Would have benn awesome to see that
JaCkmArc0 8 months ago
@wrongamount No, he didn't get revenge.
psychokinrazalon 2 months ago
@wrongamount What was Rob's revenge? Being on the same season that Russell was on when Russell was voted out? Is THAT revenge in your eyes?
Sad.....
IceYourPimpHand 1 month ago
Damn, after I saw all stars as a kid, along with the proposal, I thought rob and amber were going to last for maybe 2 months. Thankfully, they showed me.The funniest part is that in actual shows about finding a perfect match like the bachelor and the bachelorette (which I've never seen, mind you), the relationships don't even last a month usually. Rob and amber met on survivor. That's true love.
TheWordOfLife1 11 months ago 2
Rob outlasted Russell on Redemption Island. Now we all know what would have happened on Heroes Villaians if the other contestants had seen Russell's previous seasons.
Tehui1974 11 months ago 2
Go Boston Baby! Really enjoying Redemption Island, much more than I thought I would. Can't wait to see the outcome.
my2cents2u 11 months ago 2
What a great guy.
April7739 1 year ago 2
he is so classy nd has the right sportsman spirit..he is awesome, both in the game nd outside of the game :)
shreya5909 1 year ago 9
this guy is an insecure little fruitcake.
rockfordtoronto 1 year ago
@rockfordtoronto what the hell are you talking about
jukio02 11 months ago
@MrInhibitor Todd won, he played dirty. He is liked because he knows how to explain to all out . ( Russel should have learn from him )
MrSamXxXxXx 1 year ago
Boston Rob= HEROIC villain
MHG10908 1 year ago 3
jeff recently said boston rob is the best player to ever play the game. He said he would bet on rob every single time. Obviously jeff knows what hes talking about.
trackman94 1 year ago 2
@trackman94 I would bet on Rob man. Or if Todd was there, I would have bet on him too. Richard and ethan also. I would bet that Russel wont win, cause he hasn't learn how to explain humbly to the jury's. Unless he has really learn in the next season, i'll be betting for him to win.
MrSamXxXxXx 1 year ago
I am as sick of boston rob as I am of Russell. Both equally annoying. Rob seemed a bit nicer and less of an arrogant jerk this time but if you watched season 8 (all stars) he was so obnoxious. Russell needed a break, doing back to back is tough especially since these 2 seasons were so close. That'sthe only thing I feel sorry for when it comes to Russell lol
tallderektoronto 1 year ago
@tallderektoronto Well the dirtier a player plays the game, the more popular he/she is. Sucks for you mate
JaymsStapleton 1 year ago
@JaymsStapleton The dirtier player who plays the game end up losing. He just makes it to the end. He doesn't know how to play dirty and then clean his mess up by humble himself to the juries so they will give him their vote. He just remains dirty and he gets no vote. Sandra was on team Rob. She won survivor cause she knew there was no need to get rid of Russel anymore since everyone in the jury hated him. Russel should learn from Todd (winner of survivor china)
MrSamXxXxXx 1 year ago
ok people need to stop whining about Russell having the advantage...this are the best players they should blame themselves for not being good enough to outsmart Russell
SanDisk4GB4 1 year ago
Rob should have definatly won, he deserved it and no one knew what Russell could do, it was unfair. Poor Rob :(
Frostfurcat 1 year ago
i cant wait for survivor 21 !! A must needed brek from two seasons with overediting for russel
rickgarza95 1 year ago
Even with russell having the advantage, rob knew he should get ridden of him
daxter745 1 year ago
Rob's gameplay would have been more interesting than Russell's. sure Russell was cool back in the Samoa days, but now its just "find an idol/yell at my alliance/play idol/repeat"
thesir27 1 year ago 3
you kind of redeemed yourself to me rob, good for that
tallderektoronto 1 year ago
Acutally. Rob outsmarted Russell, but Tyson was dumb enough to vote for Parvati like Russell told him to instead of voting for Russell like Rob told him to. Rob's strategy was better. Jerri was just dumb enough to jump ship.
WaItDisneyWorId 1 year ago 2
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Pt1/3 How did Rob outsmart Russell? He said it right to the camera, that if rob was smart enough he would split the vote. Russell may not have charm but he does seem to have an influence over people. Rob had a superior alliance and Russell still beat him. Russell thought they might split the vote; he also thought they might vote Parveti, the idea that they would vote strictly for him I aint that stupid.
SomeCanadianGuy01 1 year ago
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Pt2/3 Russell may not have known EXACTUALY how it would play out that night but he had an idea; a better one than rob. Robs strategy (which Russell knew was a possibility) was better on a mechanical level; were everything is predictable, but thats not how the game is played! Russell went for the idol because thats how hes used to playing; rob gathered a strong alliance because thats how hes used to playing.
SomeCanadianGuy01 1 year ago
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Pt3/3 In both seasons Russell used his idols and influence (in several instances) to get people to flip alliances and votes. The game has changed old man rob, get with it or GET OUT!
SomeCanadianGuy01 1 year ago
bye rob... you should stay longer.
gell80 1 year ago
Russell has a huge unfair advantage over all the other players. HvsV began filming as soon as Samoa wrapped. When they all met for HvsV everyone was familiar with everyone else from previous seasons, except for Russell. Samoa hadn't aired yet, so no one knew just how sneaky and conniving Russell really is. If they had all seen Russell in action I'm sure BR wouldn't have taken him so lightly, and would still be in the game. I just wish he could have lasted long enough to be on the jury. :(
my2cents2u 1 year ago 32
@my2cents2u Boston Rob sucks, Russell HUMILIATED him and his fans, and is a much better player. HILARIOUS!
goten1214 1 year ago
I actually rooted for Russell all through Samoa and couldn't believe that Natalie won after ridng Russell's coattails all season, so your comment has kind of fallen flat. I just personally prefer to watch BR. I think he's more entertaining to me, that's all. Just an opinion. BTW - differing opinions doesn't mean one is right and one is wrong. To each his own - youknow.
my2cents2u 1 year ago
@my2cents2u I prefer watching Rob too. He kinda have that X Factor. He went on Amazing race and arrived first 3 times in a row. He came Runner up in the finals of the Amazing race with Amber.
MrSamXxXxXx 1 year ago
@my2cents2u Nobody knew who boston rob was when he played at all-stars, your point?
vivilakers 1 year ago
@my2cents2u well most of the early survivors have said they didn' t watch most of the seasons after them
for instance rob doesen't no who JT IS
wingspan6 1 year ago
@my2cents2u The guy never even went home. To play for 90 days the way he did was incredible.
hockeybo71 1 year ago
@hockeybo71 he went home and got back.
jaburuians 1 year ago
@jaburuians No, he said in an interview that he never left the island. He stayed in the hotel.
hockeybo71 1 year ago
@my2cents2u true that the players not knowing him in an advantage for him because they don't know how he plays the game but it is more of a disadvantage to him than an advantage for what you don't realize is the other players do know each other as alot of them go to all the survivor special events. Basically not only do they know each others game but they know each other on a more personal level as well. Can you say instant aliance.
Hoody830 1 year ago
@my2cents2u Actually it's been rumored that many of the castaways knew about Russell and had info on him. plus they were all told that he was there for a reason. out of 19 seasons they took a guy who was on the last season before 20 that has to say something. Then if you still say he had an advantage what about all those who played with each other and where friends outside the game? doesn't that give them an advantage over russell?
mcif2485 1 year ago
@my2cents2u "Huge unfair advantage"? He was in an alliance of 3 vs. 6 others. He still owned them. Boston Rob is an overrated, shit player.
3eau2aniel 1 year ago
@3eau2aniel Boston Rob came close to getting rid of Russel. It all comes down to 1 name, 3 votes Russel, 3 votes Rob, 1 vote left. But Robs name came down. Had it been Russel. Rob might have won dis season. Russel will just made it till the end. Parvati rides Russels coatails. Sandra didn't, she was on Robs team. She found a way to be in the final 3, and she won. Danielle had been voted out. But Russel in my oppinion is 1 of the most smartest player I've seen. He sees thru the game plan somehow.
MrSamXxXxXx 1 year ago
@my2cents2u to be fair they were all warned how good he was and how he became one of the biggest villains in just 1 season, so if they didn't take it seriously enough its their fault. Obviously it went in his favour, he was incredibly successful in the first 2 seasons when no one really knows much about him but is one of the first players to leave in the recent season, i still think he's the best player in history though.
chinglis 11 months ago
@my2cents2u Its actually a disadvantage, because the smart person would quickly voted him out because of what a potential danger he is, Jeff probst told them how he became the biggest villian in just 1 season even without the viewers seeing him yet, if they didn't take that seriously enough, then they all deserve to be walking home with Rob.
IceYourPimpHand 9 months ago
It was so sweet that i actually cried......he's the best
bblover248 1 year ago
Boston is still the best.
He's a true fan favorite because he plays like a man. The only reason he's out was because of Coach the tiny man didn't keep his word.
Either way, Sandra out smart them all. And in the end she wins it because no one in the jury will vote for Parvati. So congrats Sandra.
emycasanova 1 year ago
Rob is still better.
Spellmeh 1 year ago
Classy final words from Rob, A humble guy who takes defeat like a man. Hey Lex you paying attention?
Rob outsmarted Russel last week but Tyson is super Dumb. Oh well. Simply said Russel would not last long in the old days where there were no hidden immunity idols. He doesn't have the charm like Rob does.
That being said I am cheering for Russel because he is still entertaining to watch.
Bye Rob ....THE BEST SURVIVOR PLAYER EVER!
sugarmesweet 1 year ago 44
@sugarmesweet rob never outsmarted russell? russell outsmarted him that's why rob's gone... russell beat rob fair and square so how does that make rob best player of all time? his overrated... russell is the best survivor of all time !!!
SuperSkuxxDeluxx 1 year ago
@SuperSkuxxDeluxx russel did not outsmart him. russell just got extremely lucky that coach and t yson were stupid and screwed up even tho they both favored rob over russell. russell had nothing to do with coach and tysons mistakes that made rob lose. all he did was swing jerri. if coach hadnt wasted a vote rob and russel wouldve tied and im pretty sure rob would beat russel in 9/10 challenges. your just biased against rob and u dont want to admit that rob outsmarted russel
fernando763 1 year ago 4
@fernando763 your so stupid... russell DID oursmart rob... first he told tyson that he was going to vote parvati tricking tyson into voting parvati also, if russell hadn't did this then tyson would've stuck to the plan... and for coach, russel made him promise to vote out rob and not turn on him coach is a man of his word.. so russell took advantage of that he either was going to vote rob or courtney didn't matter becus he already convinced jerri to pur rob's name down...
SuperSkuxxDeluxx 1 year ago
@SuperSkuxxDeluxx im pretty sure none of that wouldve happened if everyone knew how russell played. samoa aired after heroes vs villains was filmed. if tyson knew how russell played he may not have believed him and he would know russell is just as much of a threat as parvati. also jerri would know that russell was just as untrustworthy as rob and coach wouldve known russell was very dishonorable and he wouldnt have promised not to vote for him.
fernando763 1 year ago
@SuperSkuxxDeluxx russell has a very unfair advantage over everyone else. even if he didnt have this advantage and he beat rob JT wouldnt have given him the idol.
fernando763 1 year ago 2
@fernando763 look at you tryna change the subject... russell didn't have a unfair advantage over rob, becoz rob had more numbers, russell was just better at playing the game then rob was, stop trying to make exscuses...
SuperSkuxxDeluxx 1 year ago
@SuperSkuxxDeluxx russell lost his possibility at ever having the numbers advantage by going after the idol. u know iim right. your only comeback is stop making excuses. everything i said is true and you know it is
fernando763 1 year ago
@fernando763 exactly RUSSELL HAD LESS NUMBERS... if russell didn't look for the idol, he wouldn't have got rid of tyson and rob, instead he would've been riding on rob's back like the others did, but he didn't do that he wanted a shift of powers and he did that, russell won fair and square, and everything i said is true and you know it is....
SuperSkuxxDeluxx 1 year ago
@SuperSkuxxDeluxx nope. this is what happens: russell goes after the idol losing any possibility of a numbers advantage. then his unfair advantage of nobody knowing his strategy kicks in and he beats rob.
fernando763 1 year ago
@fernando763 no. this is what happens: rob's reputation already has an affect on them causing them to side with him russell can either ride on his back aswell... or take him out, and he beat rob fair and square...
SuperSkuxxDeluxx 1 year ago
@fernando763 Alright, just because Russel played the game really well last season, and everyone else did not see how he played does not mean it is an unfair advantage, for anyone else could of decided to play that way. Its not like Russell has secret powers or something, anyone else could play the way he did.
josh07698 1 year ago
Pt1/3 How did Rob outsmart Russell? He said it right to the camera, that if rob was smart enough he would split the vote. Russell may not have charm but he does seem to have an influence over people. Rob had a superior alliance and Russell still beat him. Russell thought they might split the vote; he also thought they might vote Parveti, the idea that they would vote strictly for him I aint that stupid.
SomeCanadianGuy01 1 year ago
@SomeCanadianGuy01 ok dude, rob laid it out specifically to his alliance to split the votes. that would've gotten either parvarti OR russel out. tyson was just stupid enough to switch his vote because he thought parvarti was such a big threat. so russell never outsmarted rob. he only outsmarted tyson. and let's see, who ended up winning in the end? SANDRA, not russell. and who won now in redemption island? ROB. he was smart enough to make friends with his tribe whereas russel made enemies of his
shortiexxerica 9 months ago
@shortiexxerica First of all, why are you responding to comments posted over a year ago? Second, I was just angry that everybody wasn’t giving Russell any credit. Finally, Rob is clearly a good player (as we saw this season); why do you have to go sifting through year’s worth of comments to start a fight?
SomeCanadianGuy01 9 months ago
Pt2/3 Russell may not have known EXACTUALY how it would play out that night but he had an idea; a better one than rob. Robs strategy (which Russell knew was a possibility) was better on a mechanical level; were everything is predictable, but thats not how the game is played! Russell went for the idol because thats how hes used to playing; rob gathered a strong alliance because thats how hes used to playing.
SomeCanadianGuy01 1 year ago
Pt3/3 In both seasons Russell used his idols and influence (in several instances) to get people to flip alliances and votes. The game has changed old man rob, get with it or GET OUT!
SomeCanadianGuy01 1 year ago
@sugarmesweet Sandra won this season. She play with rob. it is better to play with rob then against him.
aquafishsoup 1 year ago
@sugarmesweet I really don't understand when people say Rob (or Russell, or Amanda, etc.) is the best player ever IF THEY HAVEN'T WON. Whether or not you personally agree or disagree with certain tactics or voting, the game clearly has one winner each season. I don't disagree that Rob is a really exciting player to watch, but he. has. not. won. This season notwithstanding, he's played three times and didn't even make the jury in two of those seasons. Best ever? Not even close.
thatsbriiskbaby 10 months ago
@thatsbriiskbaby He's won now!!! :D
othfan96 9 months ago
@thatsbriiskbaby oh yeah? look who's won now in redemption island.
shortiexxerica 9 months ago
@sugarmesweet How did Rob outsmart Russell that week? Robs plan failed, then he was voted out by russell the next week, thats not outsmarting Russell, thats russell out smarting Rob.
IceYourPimpHand 9 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand robs plan would of worked if his allies stuck to what he said to do (i.e tyson)
imomfire 9 months ago
@imomfire *Facepalm* and Russell gave tyson a reason into flipping his vote, russell puts himself first, he's not going to go home for parvati, so he knew by giving parvati the idol, tyson would had most likely wasted his vote and it will be a 1 vote difference sending tyson home. Rob was completely outplayed that season, russell squashed him like a bug even with the odds against him.
IceYourPimpHand 9 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand it was a good move by russel, but its not out smarting rob, its out smarting tyson, if tyson just stuck to what rob said then parvati or russel would of went home
imomfire 9 months ago
@imomfire That move cost Rob the whole game, he was the next villian to go, how is that not outsmarting Rob? Russell managed to flip 1 of his allience, and confused the other, it makes no sense to say that russell didn't outsmart Rob, because russell ended up voting him off.
IceYourPimpHand 9 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand
I think you forgot Rob's aim in setting a triple play... that was for the idol to be used to save either Russell or Parvati... and force a revote... that will ensure either Russell or Parvati eliminated...
Although Russell should be given an alliance in flipping Jerri on the next tribal council...
yamamotokun80 9 months ago
@yamamotokun80 Yes, and Russell backfired the impossible. Russell tricked Tyson into wasting his vote, Russell outsmarted Rob that season.
IceYourPimpHand 9 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand Actually, the opinion about this matter depends on how you look at things. On one point, Russell might have tricked Tyson through Parvati...
however, on another, we can also see that half of Rob's plan came into fruition. Tyson just freaked out since he's seeing Parvati more as a threat than Russell...
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
@yamamotokun80 I dont think Tyson was that dumb, Russell made it clear that he was going to give his vote to parvati and save himself, giving tyson no reason to vote for Russell when it would just be a waste. At the end of the day, Russell voted out Rob, Russell didn't just lay around and pray to God that Rob would go, he got off his ass and took out the man who just lays around threatning people and talks a truck load of trash to players he's never even seen before.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand In a sense, you're right about Tyson not being that dumb; he's just went with his instincts. However, Tyson failed to see the big picture in Rob's plans.
Despite his genius, Russell also made 3 bad decisions in the game...
1. He eliminated Coach instead of Courtney after Rob got voted out.
2. He eliminated Courtney instead of Sandra after Coach got voted out.
3. He voted out Jerri instead of Parvati during Day 38. (actually, this one is more of a lose-lose-lose situation)
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
He could take johnny fairplay to the end and still lose. But Russell never voted for Coach, despite what the producers try to make it look like, it clearly shows him voting for Courtney at the end. I dont see a difference between Courtney or Sandra, both of them are willing to flip or run their mouths about the plan to the heroes. Russell's flaw in the game is his lying, swearing on his kids life and giving players false hope is why he didn't win, his strategy comes with a side effect of Karma.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand Sorry about number 1... definitely my mistake... it was his alliance...
Well, I think the reason why Russell didn't win Samoa and HvV is because of his behavior during Final TC. Although his actions were no different from the others, it was his behavior that made him lose.
Concerning Sandra and Courtney... Hantz should have known Sandra's ability to play along with other people's lies. He just focused on Courtney's "loose cannon" personality that's why he voted her out..
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
In Samoa he played a flawless game, people say he played too agressive, but he entered the merge 4-8 with none of them that willing to flip anytime soon, if he didn't play like he did, he'd be the 2nd person voted out after the merge. Whats he suppose to do at final tribal? I'd rather vote for somebody thats telling the truth, rather than handing out complete obvious bullshit. It was a bitter jury, he deserved to win THAT season. But i would've voted out Courtney instead of Sandra.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand You're definitely right about Russell playing an almost-perfect game in Samoa to bring himself. Mick and Natalie to the Final 3.
As I see it, his problem is he rubbed off the jury during the FTC. If he just "used the right words", he would have had $2M... he adds insult to the injury instead of logically defending his actions. Compare him to the Richard and Brian... both jerkasses in their seasons but those guys knew what to say to the jury in order to win.
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
Give him a break, the 2 seasons he played was only 10 days apart, and at the first FTC the jury didnt make it too obvious who they were going to vote for, unlike at the HvV the jury just about mentally bashed the hell out of him, so he didn't learn from his mistakes the first time because he never got the chance understand it. When he returned for his 3rd season he clearly knew that he was aware of his flaw, but obviously he never got the chance to correct it. He could very well win the 4th time
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand But he should have learned "using the right words in FTC" from watching the previous seasons, especially how Amanda sucked at FTC along with Twila and Rob (during All Stars)...
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
@yamamotokun80 Russell's FTC speech does need work, but if you look at ponderosa, they ALL hate him, so much that everytime they hear his name they get angry, it doesn't matter what he says, nobody will vote for him even if his speech is right.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand even if the jury is bitter,,, they still have their respect for people's moves... Russell just rubbed them off...
Brian and Richard won because of good speeches considering that both their opponents in FTC are both "kinder" than them...
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
@yamamotokun80 Both times the jury didn't like russell, no speech could had saved him from losing, they despised him, a speech only does so much. Russell makes extremely big moves and Blindsides, more than Richard and Brian put together, the fact that a coattial rider won a season full of the best players just proves how bitter the jury is.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand So were Brian and Richard... they were the most hated in their seasons, but still, they managed to win because of the way they delivered themselves in the jury. If Russell have not contacted the "Amanda Kimmel" syndrome, he would have won... especially if his opponents are coattail riders
If you have watched HvV, the jury were more objective than on Samoa... however, because of his "Amanda-ness", they got pissed... if he got his FTC good, he might have got the Heroes' votes
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
FTC speech doesn't give you the win, i swore on his kids life and pissed people off, watch Ponderosa, they despised him, why would they believe anything he says when he lied the whole game, he can't bring up the "good guy" card when they've all seen him make huge lies. And Parvati was one of the reasons to why the heroes got flushed out, but she never lied or backstabbed them, she just silently played the game without causing fights, i'm 100% a russell fan, but he had no chance to win.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand Actually, several other players have done that too... the lying, cheating and the backstabbing... I think I should watch Ponderosa to know more of the jury's reactions... I just talked how the jury voted during FTC's.
On another note, Parvati is good because she knows what to say to the jury to win, unlike Russell. Parvati sure learned her lesson during CI where her tribe got Pagonged by the Aitu 4. Besidesm her brillian t move there was to eliminate Jonathan before her.
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
@yamamotokun80 Parvati played the victom at HvV FTC, she kept saying that she was never able to get away from Russell, and she took him as her only option, Russell would need to come up with a GENUIS speech in order to win that season, i sure as hell wouldn't even know where to start, Russell bullshits his way through the game, saying whatever it takes, but he fell short at the last second and wasn't able to charm when he needed to do the most, if think he put himself in too deep in a hole.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand Parvati took advantage of the Russell's bad reputation and turned it to favor her. She only said that she had no choice but to team up with Russell but she did not really say that she let Russell decide everything... she made some bold moves during that season... and besides, there are times where she moves on her own instead of following Hantz like eliminating Coach and as well as giving 2 idols.
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
@yamamotokun80 Without Russell she wouldn't be in the final 3, its a fact. Parvati deserved to win that season, i'm not saying that Russell did, but the only reason that i dont think Russell deserves to win that season is because of his behavior, he made 0 effort to be nice to anybody or get their vote, he may be able to bully and scare people in the game to do what he wants, but when they're at FTC none of them are afraid of him because he's got no power towards them, but sandra shouldn't win.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand I agree with you about Parv won't be in the final 3 w/out Hantz. However, she was just waiting for Hantz ro move and instead made her own decisions. Russell should have won if he just acted like Yul (this man is truly a great social player)
Sandra deserved to win that season. At the very least, she managed to survive without being eliminated and besides, Hantz just underestimated her... or he's just unaware of her "as long as it ain't me" strategy and the lie-riding...
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
@yamamotokun80 I dont like sandra and i really dont think she's a great player, but she's played twice and won twice, so its stupid for me to sit here and say she's useless, but i still think Parvati should had won, and not somebody who wasn't capable of reaching any goals in her season besides winning, she kept saying she wanted to vote out Russell, and the 1 attempt she made to trick russell didn't even work in the end. I truely think lightning stuck twice in Sandra's gameplay, Just pure luck
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand Her strategy was half luck and half skill. She's just going with the flow and tries to do things for herself and her alliance.
On another note, I notices that aside from rubbing off people in FTC, Russel's also quarelling with the heroes. He should have avoided that at the very least.
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
I think a good survivor can play survivor and dominate all the game, Sandra is good at FTC, but getting there is just COMPLETE luck for her, if they wanted to, they could vote her off in a blink. I'm 100% sure that she won't ever get to the end again, the "i'm useless" Strategy will obviously not work more than 2 times. I agree that Russell made NO attempt to get on the Heroes good side, calling rupert a dumbass and laughing when they walk off after getting voted off is asking for trouble.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand Agreeing with Russel not going for the Heroes' good side...
Considering Sandra's strategy... she might be targeted for her lack of physical skill, but her social skills (although not that better than Cirie's is still a huge advantage). Besides, having the "vote-selling" strategy is also a good strategy, especially for game-changing moves...She's just applying what Richard had set.
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
@yamamotokun80 I see very little strategy in Sandra's game, she is great at FTC, but the only reason she's gotton there twice is because nobody thinks she'll win, now that she's won twice, its over for her, NOBODY will take her there again, unless she comes up with a new strategy, she's never going to even come close to winning again.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand the reason why you could not see her strategy is because
1. she doesn't need to think of strategies since she's (or her alliance) was not in danger
2. the situation favors her (especially the perception that she would not win)
3. her strategy is very practical
4. lastly, even though she plans on doing one, it just doesn't materialize...
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
When she was in Bostons Robs alliance and Russell was voting them out, she didn't nothing at all, and just sat around and prayed to God she wouldn't be next, the only strategy she did before the merge was try to trick Russell into voting for Coach, which wasn't even needed. Sandra just walks behind bushes and listens in people talking, threatning to cut peoples throats even though she's never been capable of voting people off, and call people stupid ass's, and yet she always wins, its pathetic.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand When Tyson was voted off, she still believed that they were 5... however, when Rob was voted out, she had to do some moves... but considering her sporadic actions, she's effective... besides, if Russ and Parv would me more strategic, they should have figured out that Sandra was the one behind Coach's elimination rather than Courtney,,, she should have been targeted than the loose cannon... they were blinded by her physical ability...
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
I don't think anybody took her seriously enough, it did seem like she was causing a lot of trouble and they never took it incredibly seriously, i feel the reason she won is because she was the only one who told the heroes about Russell playing them all, and only 1 person listened, taking her to the end was very stupid when she HATED Russell just as much as the Heroes did, unlike Parvati who was his right hand girl, i just dont think her strategic skills are worth winning, unless she wins again.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand That's the problem. They have only seen her as a coattail rider and a load that can be easily dispatched. Well, she won because she was with the Heroes' in eliminating Russell and the only one who tried kicking him out. she also told them not to trust Russel... and the fact that they ignored her...
The reason she won was because of her skills in going under the radar and Russel's misconception about her. Sandra should have been voted out if Russell just listened to Parvati.
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
@yamamotokun80 Russell didn't know that she was trying to help out the heroes, he doesn't get to see the things we do, so its a lot harder to know what the jury thinks about other players. Sandra see's the big picture, she doesn't seem to be doing anything, but slowely she's making more and more reasons to why they should vote for her in the end, but the only reason she'll ever get to the end is because the dominate player doesn't think she'll win, after winning 2 times, will they do it again?
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand well, Parvati doesn't think what Russell thinks... it's truly Russel's misconception about people that lead to his downfall... Russell is a great player... but he should have watched the previous seasons carefully because it seemed that he did not learn from those seasons... especially Borneo, Thailand, Pearl Islands, All Stars, Vanuatu and Guatemala...
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
@yamamotokun80 I agree, Russell plays a unstoppable Mid game, in a way, its incredibly lazy, he doesn't think about the jury, instead he'll try to deal with them at the last second, just like ignoring a task you have to do, then panicing and quickly trying to finish it when the time is up, it never works. If Russell made more of an effort, then he'd be the best. But its stupid that the jury gets so sensitive and emotional, they can be such sore losers, Russell deserved at least 2nd in HvV.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand Actually, the jury could either be hurt or bitter... however, the jury still respects people as a player. That's why many survivors win... because the jury deemed them as a worthy player... On russell's case, he's a good player but no one in the jury respected his game.. it's not that it's too cutthroat but becaus eof russell's actions and behavior. He's a jerkass genius.
On him being second in HvV, i still think he deserved 3rd... Parvati is good in this season like Sandra.
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
@yamamotokun80 Parvati sat on Russells shoulder like a pretty little birdy, but yet claimed to be in control. Parvati didn't do anything that russell didn't do. Russell just went over the top.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand Parvati was actually making a good strategy by allowing Russell to take control and get the blame from the Heroes' tribe while making some independent actions... just like a bad boss would do... Try looking at other people's views as well....
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
@yamamotokun80 I've been reading your views and then expressing mine, don't turn into an emotional girl on me that doesn't feel noticed, i'm respecting your opinions.
Parvati played the idol to jerri, sending her home, she was the reason the heroes went down like dominoes, and yet none of them held that against her, its just amazing that they had such a bitter attitude towards Russell, when he didn't do anything that parvati didn't, i just feel that the Jury was very Biased no reason
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand I'm not turning into an emotional girl... I'm just clearly saying that you must view the game from other perspectives. No emotions attached. Thanks for respecting my opinions so far.
Actually, if you would look at it, that's not the one who sealed the Heroes' fate. it was the next Tribal council where Candace jumped to the Villains side. And with that mentioned, there's another chance too... if Sandra would just team up with Rupert and Colby after Danielle was voted off.
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
I agree that Candice did make the Villians job a lot easier by flipping, it was a stupid move and i have no idea why she didn't try to get Sandra, she doesn't seem like such a strategic player if she thinks the villians would take her to the end. And the thing that confuses me, is that Sandra did have multiple times to blindside Russell, she talked about it all season, but never tried, and later said it just never panned out. I dont think she's the sharpest tool in the shed, at all.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand Actually, she did her best to convince and implement her plan with the Heroes, however, her plans just did not come true because of the Heroes' boneheadedness. of coming to Russell everytime something would happen.
About not being the sharpest tool in the shed, Candace and Sandra are really not the sharpest tools. They have big flaws on one point and another... the former being a traitor while the latter being lame.
I was still wondering if Todd(China) were in this game...
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
Candice could had put the Heroes in control, but once again, she flipped. It pissed me off to see Sandra miss out so many chances, they could had just voted out parvati THEN Russell, like the heroes wanted. To me, it just didn't seem like the heroes were trying to hard to get Sandra, I'm glad they were voted off 1 by 1. Some of those players shouldn't had been brought back, strategically they are horrible and pretty much layed down and waited to be voted off, they were not All Stars, just lazy.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand Well, that why Heroes are heroes, they are gullible. I totally expected it from Candace since I watched her original season, she jumped from one dominant alliance to the other just to be voted out... they took Sandra for granted... especially Rupert... he should have trusted her since they belong to the same season...
I agree with you about some of the cast not really strategic, just dumb. Kinda annoying that Sugar and Steph got out fast. Both were good in their seasons.
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
@yamamotokun80 you're 100% right about heroes being gullible, Villians are named Villians because they are strategical and will do whatever it takes to get to the end, Heroes are nice, and don't want to step on anyone's toes, that strategy will work if you're in the final 3 infront of the jury. Amanda was useless, which was a shock to me, and JT made the dumbest move i've ever seen, it just proves that JT did so well in Tocantins because Stephen was there to help him every step of the way.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand Well, in Amanda's case, she's more of the person who is effective when in a good environment... she's good in China and Micronesia since her allies are good but in HvV, she was stuck with dumb people and she then became dumb. In JT's case, he only won because many hated Stephen and riding Stephen's plans.also, because of JT, Cirie was voted out. that's a little bummer for me. I was hoping for Cirie to do stuff. But that's her karma for Yau-man's defeat in Micronesia.
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
@yamamotokun80 I do feel sorry for Amanda in that part, her alliance would had been incredibly hard to work with, but in Samoa, none of Russell's alliance had a brain, and yet he was able to take over the game like it was nothing. It did seem a lot of the good players was voted out early, Tom, Cirie, Rob, i've got to say, it was one of the most agressive seasons i've ever seen in a while.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand Yeah, and considering the previous season, HvV is truly exciting. IMO, this season was just like All-Stars, except for the part that the opposing tribe did not get Pagonged too easily.
Anyways, I still wonder how the Heroes did not consider dealing with Russell through Sandra's help. Setting aside the fact that Heroes were dumb, I still wonder why the heroes would go for Russell to confront him for their impending doom. Considering that they were not Ometepe tribe (cult).
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
@yamamotokun80 The fact that Sandra told the heroes about Russell, and they still didn't listen, shocked the hell out of me. At the start Jeff said that Russell made it into the top 10 biggest Villians history, and yet they give me an idol not knowing anything about him, and the only thing they do know about him is that he's a big villian, the heroes had to be the worst tribe in history, right there next to Zapatera, some people make horrible choices.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand Just revealed that JT won because of the jury's blindness. And also, JT is revealed to have a brain size of a walnut. But then again, being surrounded by idiots might have shrunk his already small brain. Well, another mystery to me is the fact that Parvati did not try and eliminate Russell. IF she had done that, she would have won and hailed as the best.
another note, Zapatera is great in voting out Russell early. Ometepe just let Rob dominate the game.
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
@yamamotokun80 True, if parvati voted off russell near the end, she would had won for sure. Voting out Russell was a horrible move, they threw a challenge when they were only 2 people infront, and then they had to play with Rob, who was 10x smarter than any of them, i would had backstabbed Russell after he voted off Rob after the merge, if he was able to of course, but voting off Russell gave Ometepe a HUGE advantage of having an experienced player on their side.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand Parvcould have done that
Zapatera made two horrible moves. One is that they gave up a challenge to vote out Russell rather than voting out Russell when they inevitably lost. They took precautionary measures way too early in the game. They could have at least waited fro the right time to vote out Russell. Second, they did not try to convince MAtt to join their side. Matt just came back from Redemption and he could have forced a tie for the Zapatera.
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
Thats true, Ralph had the hidden idol, and none of the 6 was ever going to flip, despite what we've seen in history, Russell wasn't going to be able to take control of the game anytime soon, but yet they still started to panic, I personally would use him to my advantage and hang on to him while he does what he does best at the merge, but if i was to enter the merge with the majoraty numbers, then i'd regret keeping him around. Matt is just a idiot, he should be on big brother, not survivor.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand Even though it's idiotic, the action done by the Zapatera is justified since Russell is starting to form bonds with Stephanie and Krista... they saw that too and voted out the two girls... about Matt, he's strong but he's really dumb. He should have talked to the Zapatera and not to Rob...
I still doubt if he will win Big Brother... BB is kinda like Survivor too.. the housemates vote out other people and not the audience...
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
@yamamotokun80 lol, what kind of big brother have you been watching? The big brother that i used to watch, the housemates would nominate 3 people to go up for elimination, then the public chooses who goes home, people like Rob and Russell would master it, being extremely strategic yet being loved by the audience, Matt is a gullible fool, i dont go to my girlfriend, say that i considered sleeping with another girl, then expect my girlfriend not to slap me across the face.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand The BB that I am referring to was the US version Seasons 2 and above because I thought you're living in the US. The BB format that you're familiar with is similar to the Philippine version of BB.
Well, Matt is definitely dumb. The only interesting thing in that season is to learn how to manipulate others and turn a tribe into a cult. At least, if you're bored with it... you can watch Philip's senseless shenanigans and Matt's "hopelessly dumb and dark future"
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
Redemption island wasn't good at all, Russell = entertainment, and he only lasted 4 episodes, NOBODY woke the hell up and tried to vote off Rob in his alliance, and nobody flipped the whole season, it was just plain and boring. Whenever a tribe enters the merge with numbers, and they stick together, it makes boring TV because you can predict the whole season, and be right. I'm hoping they're going to make another 'All Star' season again, although i'm curious to know what 2 players are returning.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand In a sense, yeah, Russell made the game unpredictable... but not on the third time I guess... maybe on the fourth
About next season, I doubt if you'll be interested to know the two returning players... one was C_ _ _ _ (Tocantins, HvH) and the other was O _ _ _ (CI, Micro) that's according to the recent news. I would have wished for a whole meaningful pair like Yul - Ozzy, Matthew - Shane, and other pairs that has either a rivalry or foils to one another.
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
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@yamamotokun80 I did hear about that, the only reason i have trouble believing that is because they've never played a season together, and Coach isn't a strategically player compared to Ozzy, its kind of like putting a Pitbull against a bunny rabit, but Coach sure is entertaining to watch, i hope they put a rivaly as well, just like they did with Rob and Russell, expect hopefully this time both of the players will make it to the merge, so it isn't just a waste.
IceYourPimpHand 8 months ago
@IceYourPimpHand Sorry for the late reply. You're absolutely right.... O (this is for others who still did not know the name...) could have survived until the merge, and besides, he's kind... although I doubt if C (he's just an attention grabber) would make it past the merge... although he's entertaining to watch, he could be annoying for the players of the game.
I only hope O would not become Stephenie...
yamamotokun80 8 months ago
don't fuck with the russdog
chitownboyz 1 year ago
@chitownboyz ...yeah Rob was talking mad shit everytime he cast his vote and even to Russell....he underestimated how much Russell loves and is obsessed with this game! Now he knows not to mess with him but its too late for his Bitch ass and i liked Rob in the beginning but then he kept talking shit to Russell so that pissed me off! Rob should of left it alone! Kourtney was the weak link! Her skinny useless ass!!
whole27 1 year ago
Suck eggs, Boston Rob!
davidgrantlloyd 1 year ago
T_T
Boston Rob will always be the best player in survivor history!!
Ichigopab 1 year ago
damn he is hott, wish he had won
dollysmom 1 year ago
I like both Russell and Rob, and I'm glad Rob accepts his defeat like man, unlike those crybabies Lex, Alicia and Bog-Tom...
Both Rob and Russell should've won their previous seasons, and they both lost because of a jury of crybabies, which is also the case for Colby, Twila, Stephanie, Dreamz, Sugar and Stephen...
darn999 1 year ago
Thats b.s...he called Russell the little man. This guy is such a dope and deserves to go home, in fact he souldnt have been brought back. Him and his low class wife ruined allstars, even jeff said it was the worst survivor ever.
zigzagbigbag 1 year ago