Merci pour ces vidéos, je viens de commencer le judo et j'en deja accroc ;) Vos vidéos m'aident beaucoup a progresser car je ne peux aller qu'a 1 cours par semaine actuellement !
@loudenvier I like his technique, personally. I think the extra wide step and the full-extension arm distance sets the uke up for a rearward throw or a forward throw...And putting the throwing leg down makes it more difficult for the tori to be pulled forward off balance during the throw/pin.
I just hate how he shows those competition clips where not a single one of them use the classical version of osoto. Then he demonstrates the classical version right after.
Id love to find some more info about the competition style, as it is more effective.
@urasj ... to learn any competition style of a throw is almost impossible. Learning the basics and fundamentals of how the throw works is the only way to teach. after you have learned the fundamentals it is up to you to develop the throw to fit your body. To this day I find myself facing new students who want to do big/difficult throws but are not even able to do a upside down push up.
in osoto-otoshi you do but obviously your specialist teacher hasn't shown you any variations of the throw cause if he did you would know how effective that variation of the throw is!
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I can't believe he's a 6th degree blackbelt. Terrible, i was taught by an osoto gari specialist and even though I never used the technique in randori it does not look like that; for one you never put the sweeping le and foot on the mat...
This osoto gari is way wrong, the kuzushi is diagonal back, not straight back and the hips lift him up a little, thats all i can write judo is done visually. But I actually learned from an expert in ashi waza especially osoto and this is a bad version, the leg is suppose to act like an uninterrupted pendulum too.
Osoto in kata & osoto in competition tend to contradict each other, especially in the position of the uke's leg. I do like the osoto demonstrated, however it looks like the tori is stopping the reap early, instead of continuing like a backwards uchimata(?)
I agree too. That throw is way different in competition. Its a good demonstration but against a defensive judoka it would be real hard to execute that move.
I did not like the way tori puts his own throwing leg down, it should be avoided... The throwing leg should work like the uchimata throwing leg. The demonstration is also much different from the competition o-soto-gari displayed at the beginning, and wouldn't work on a defensive uke.
I agree with you, this style is not really use actually in competition. But M. LANGLAIS (expert)was living for a year in Japan. I think that he learnt this kind of O Soto Gari (wich is more a O Soto Otoshi) from that great champion M. Okano. When he came back to France, I had the chance to practice a little bit with him, in 1981. He was not young but still very very strong at that time. Thank you for your judo analyse and I hope to see you one time on the tatami.
I've posted a video response with another "approach" to o-soto, from the greatest judoka of all time Isao Okano. Have you seen it? Judo is great because it's based on mutual benefit, even in the context of videos on youtube (not to mention the normally great etiquette and education displayed by its practitioners, who really know how to receive well constructive critics. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, I'll take a try into that "otoshi" variation and ask my sensei, Georges K. Medhi about it!
Merci pour ces vidéos, je viens de commencer le judo et j'en deja accroc ;) Vos vidéos m'aident beaucoup a progresser car je ne peux aller qu'a 1 cours par semaine actuellement !
rdslmi 2 months ago
@loudenvier I like his technique, personally. I think the extra wide step and the full-extension arm distance sets the uke up for a rearward throw or a forward throw...And putting the throwing leg down makes it more difficult for the tori to be pulled forward off balance during the throw/pin.
DarrylXE 8 months ago
lol greco roman wrestling is similar to judo in style... lawl.. anyways... that master wears his belt like a student...
deathbyninjastar 2 years ago
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lol what kind of sport ma gives you points for landing with your opponent in a dominant position. lol judo is gay and impractical
mizdierbeatz 2 years ago
LOL, you should write a book, man. You are obviously an expert on martial arts, not to mention sexuality.
JohnColt 2 years ago 3
I just hate how he shows those competition clips where not a single one of them use the classical version of osoto. Then he demonstrates the classical version right after.
Id love to find some more info about the competition style, as it is more effective.
urasj 2 years ago
@urasj ... to learn any competition style of a throw is almost impossible. Learning the basics and fundamentals of how the throw works is the only way to teach. after you have learned the fundamentals it is up to you to develop the throw to fit your body. To this day I find myself facing new students who want to do big/difficult throws but are not even able to do a upside down push up.
tragitshownuff 1 year ago
Il suffit que le mec mette un peu de résistance dans les bras et c'est le contact tu l'a pas :(
davovitchosaure 2 years ago
cette o-soto-gari et une de mes techniques spéciaux et j'aime bien parce que elle et rapide et tu peut la maitrisé vite dan une seconde.
canarichardon 3 years ago 2
in osoto-otoshi you do but obviously your specialist teacher hasn't shown you any variations of the throw cause if he did you would know how effective that variation of the throw is!
kosotogake 3 years ago 4
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I can't believe he's a 6th degree blackbelt. Terrible, i was taught by an osoto gari specialist and even though I never used the technique in randori it does not look like that; for one you never put the sweeping le and foot on the mat...
ilope012 3 years ago
Osoto otoshi you put down your foot and uses the hands and arms to throw uke.
Osoto gari you use your leg to sweep uke's leg.
When he demonstrates this throw he sweeps the leg of uke so it is osoto gari ;)
MarcusJUDO92 2 years ago
Agree... that 6th dan Osoto is an apoplexy
TOUNICMA 2 years ago
this looks very Russian actually...maybe its a bad version of Osoto, but it is a very effective throw
theotherserge 3 years ago 3
This osoto gari is way wrong, the kuzushi is diagonal back, not straight back and the hips lift him up a little, thats all i can write judo is done visually. But I actually learned from an expert in ashi waza especially osoto and this is a bad version, the leg is suppose to act like an uninterrupted pendulum too.
ilope012 4 years ago 2
Osoto in kata & osoto in competition tend to contradict each other, especially in the position of the uke's leg. I do like the osoto demonstrated, however it looks like the tori is stopping the reap early, instead of continuing like a backwards uchimata(?)
Great teaching tool none the less!!
Cheers.
reprezents 4 years ago
I agree too. That throw is way different in competition. Its a good demonstration but against a defensive judoka it would be real hard to execute that move.
erick329 4 years ago
I did not like the way tori puts his own throwing leg down, it should be avoided... The throwing leg should work like the uchimata throwing leg. The demonstration is also much different from the competition o-soto-gari displayed at the beginning, and wouldn't work on a defensive uke.
loudenvier 4 years ago
I second that.
mk9000 4 years ago
I agree with you, this style is not really use actually in competition. But M. LANGLAIS (expert)was living for a year in Japan. I think that he learnt this kind of O Soto Gari (wich is more a O Soto Otoshi) from that great champion M. Okano. When he came back to France, I had the chance to practice a little bit with him, in 1981. He was not young but still very very strong at that time. Thank you for your judo analyse and I hope to see you one time on the tatami.
P. Roux author of the dvd
Altersport 4 years ago 2
I've posted a video response with another "approach" to o-soto, from the greatest judoka of all time Isao Okano. Have you seen it? Judo is great because it's based on mutual benefit, even in the context of videos on youtube (not to mention the normally great etiquette and education displayed by its practitioners, who really know how to receive well constructive critics. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, I'll take a try into that "otoshi" variation and ask my sensei, Georges K. Medhi about it!
loudenvier 4 years ago