It is a sin to force people to live with minorities. I hate minorities and I want nothing to do with minorities. Their opinions concerns way of life, and ideas mean nothing. All they ever talk about is hating whitey. I can not stand them. They mean nothing to me.
Gentrification is not completely bad or completely good.Diversity is good ,but depending on the expense of who, could be viewed as a bad thing.Its not good that nice people who are long time residents get forced out.It does not always happen though.Alot of people are able to stay and enjoy some of the additions.Alot of these places in brooklyn have had nice people living around alot of crime.Alot of times it would be hard to get any help from the police but now there on every corner.Nice video:)
also....I am more concerned about the preservation of the cultures. As minorities in a country, I believe it essential to have an "established" enclave...where "we" can experience being the majority...where we make our own decisions....WHILE establishing coalitions with other cultures. For some reason, I do not favor cultural mixing in black communities....especially after studying colonialism in Africa
@drawde2004new i agree and i also believe that without cultural enclaves there will be mass genericism in cities, every neighborhood will basically be the same and nothing is unique
I embrace your views on gentrification...in my perspective, I believe that the black middle class should intermingle with the black lower class. I believe we should strive to preserve the black community to prevent it from becoming dilluted. In my perspective, I think we need MORE concentrated, centrallized (successful) black communities for other blacks to model. We need a VISUAL manifestation of what black unity and progression is....
Things you will find near the housing projects/poor neighborhoods: Liquor Store, Chinese Restaurant, Bodegas (of course they sell lucys), and a Fried Chicken Spot. I lived in the PJs in the boondocks of Staten Island and these were the only stores around. Always fast food near buy with bootleg grocery stores selling crap to the masses.
Yes the rich should support those less fortunate, but it often comes in the for of giving to the poor in other countries via missions.
But my main idea is that you should not judge the rich for where they live or how they spend their money.
And as Tonya alluded to poorer neighborhoods tend to have more obvious crime problems; and you can't blame the rich for wanting to live in 'safer' areas.
Judge not lest ye be judged; don't think you know why people do things unless you have talked to them
I think it is silly to gripe about these trends that groups of people tend to follow.
It is sad that the rich people tend to live near each other so that those areas have the better schools, to the neglect of poorer areas...but its more than that. College educated people want to live near other college educated people and provide those kinds of examples for their kids as friends and neighbors.
Just to comment on your question about the art of dance throughout different cultures, I think that you're right in that it appears that European dance is more bland than say, African dance but I wouldn't say that European dance lacks passion. I just think that it's just passion expressed differently; neither is better than the other, just different.
Totally agree with you about gentrification, mixed neighbourhoods are great. It allows for so much more cultural education on all sides. I live just outside of Toronto (often called the most diverse city on the planet) and although many ethnic groups lived in non-mixed neighbourhoods some time ago, I find that with the newer generation there is so much more mixing of culture and income and it's great. I mean, we just finished up Caribana and 1mil people from all cultures came out to celebrate.
...now I focus on these that sincerely and geniunely want to do better and make strides to do better.
I live where my money affords me to live. I could care less the color of the people in the neighborhood. If I feel safe then I'm happy. I can always drive to various places to "experience" culture.
I am going to say something that may not be popular, but here goes. White flight is caused by the things of destruction you described. People who have money don't want to have their children living in a place that is dirty, unsafe, full of crime and drugs. Not after all the hard work, college educations, and striving to give their children a life of safety, and all the things they can have with that better life. Please understand I am not racist. Yes whites do leave when blacks arrive.
GateofSunrise, white flight is sometimes a reality in suburban areas. On the other hand, across America many whites are moving into urban communities where the majority of the residents are black and/or hispanic.
Because they're chicken! And I'm serious when I say that, too. Instead of trying to stay and be part of the solutions to community problems, they wanna run to the exurbs. When gas hit $5 a gallon, I felt way less empathy for the folks who chose to make that optional 50+ mile commute than the everyday folks living paycheck to paycheck who had to 'lower themselves' with public transit. I'm not racist either, I'm just real--and I don't think white flighters should get that easy of a pass.
I agree...to an extent. When the White Flighters look at the new 'colored' neighbors (who are educated and looking for a better life) with fear and distain, it's a problem. Many believe the problem is an 'ethnic' thing when in fact it's poverty. It is VERY difficult to get out of the hood mentality (trust, me I was there). There are not many resources which breeds poverty/lack of education/crime/frustration. It's a wicket cycle that is very difficult to break.
they are interesting to watch..i like listening to all the different subjects and topics that u talk about..i also like watching ppl in ur backround..weird things happen..8)
My mother and other older people tell how it was back in the day. In her old neighborhood, you had a mix of black doctors and janitors. The butchers and storeowners were black. She had an HBCU in walking distance. And the neigborhood was prosperous. When integration happened people stopped shopping at their local stores, switched hospitals b/c they thought somebody else was better. Every storeowner in my neighborhood is Arab and don't hire black people. I drive somewhere instead of going there.
Iam going to sound bad when I say this but its the truth all the same when areas become mixed/multiracial it usually mean the area goes down the shitter.
Interesting topic, I was brought up in a 99.9% white middle class neighbourhood and felt very ill at ease and suffocated..later on in life, I lived in a multi racial "ghetto"...too raw and heavy but a lot of life and soul on the + point...and then a melting pot slightly more prosperous community...the latter was my fave jus because it was all goin on in the same place, a bit of this and that...the melting pot and less chance of getting sucked in to the "energy" of one narrow box..
cool. I'm a 3rd culture kid soo I've always been really international and multicultural even the areas I have lived in and prefer to live in. Though being in the black community back at home feels good. Never lived in the burbs before though. parents were urban middle class.
I am in a whole soup of different people, races, religions, beliefs, traditions, incomes, gay, straight and I honestly would not have it any other way. They care for me and I care for them and we all learn to tolerate (don't misunderstand me I don't mean that in a bad way) and understand eachothers differences :D and it has made all the difference in my life
Hi Tonya thank you for the walking vlog I really enjoy them. Does not a Russian ballet dancer have just as much fervor for her art as a drummer in the Carribean but just in a different mode?
What is sad is that gentrification has to be something legislated instead of something we enthusiastically welcome as it should be.
Great henny penny reference; that used to be my favourite children's book. Seems as though my humble surroundings in FL are devout of any major gentrification, however an Afrian couple moved in next door. She wears these beautiful headwraps, and I hear the indigenous music every now and then.
I'm gonna be in NY for 10 daysss Tonya, expect me to storm up Central Park!!, hahaha.
Gentrification, or urban gentrification, is the change in an urban area associated with the movement of more affluent individuals into a lower-class area.[
The area experiences demographic shifts, including an increase in the median income, a reduction in household size, and often a decline in the proportion of lower-class groups. More households with higher incomes result in increased real estate values with higher associated rent, home prices, and property taxes. Industrial land use can decline with redevelopment bringing more commercial and residential use. Such changes often result in transformation of the neighborhood's character and culture.
gentrafication begins with mixing of incomes and culture but as the process matures you begin to see the neighborhood return to 'same class' and often the 'same culture'. Property values increase and in turn taxes increase. This prevents low income individuals from affording the rent. The process slowly but surely removes the lower class from the area. The lower class individuals are usually people of color, which changes the culture make up of the neighborhood.
He even invited me and my children to his home and to his daughter's weddng with was a sho-nuff BLAST!!! WHAT A PARTY!!!! All night long, non-stop fun with other families in their synagague (sp). He's retired now to Chicago, and I miss him so, but I will never forget our talks, the jokes and the fun. We all have alot to learn from other races.
Tonya, as a black woman, I have had the beautiful opportunity of befriending a Jewish man. We worked together for years in the public school system. He was open to learn all about black culture and I was open to learn about the jewish culture.
1. I agree with you about integration of neighborhhoods and bi-racial relationships. Therefore, I think we need to go on a date! :)
2. I have a buddy that professes to be a true New Yorker; he's puerto rican, born in a jewish hospital and carries the hebrew first name, went to a catholic school and grew up in harlem.
3. What's wrong with disrobing in a park? LOL
4. In the interests of of artistic aprreaciation only, I volunteer to watch a couple of indian women belly dancing provacitive
pfft all si can say from my view is queens over here mostly dominicans but mostly puerto ricans each borough basically has its own 2 or 3 big group of cultures
I can see how integration can benefit not only the neighborhoods themselves but enrich the lives of everyone. Integrating a community brings about new ideas and perspectives. If people are a product of their environment one can only imagine the effects that living in a vaired integrated community would have on a person opposed to living in a uniformly depressed location.
You speak of alot of topics that I talk about..I can't help but to think we are of like mind and put here for this purpose to teach and preach..I agree with u..I feel like as black people our counterparts see us as not appreciating what we have so why give us something better.I should of done a video response because I have so much to say..So they pasify us with cheap rent in bad neighborhoods.Or stores that gear to people who are poor.Like Dollar Tree, Dollar General, Or Sav a Lot etc..
Down here it's like, "The bible said, 'Don't mix the races'". It's a nightmare. SC is known as the backwards state for a reason. Some people down here don't know that the Jim Crow laws are dead.
But isn't gentrification a transforming process. I thought the final goal was to eliminate those of lower class. Also, I've experienced that many upper/middle class feel uncomfotrable by nearby lower class people. Do you think perhaps gentrification will increase competition among Blacks and further separate the unity? Like you were saying it has its gain by bringing exposure to better resources and lifestyles.
You need to break down what gentrification is and what is meant by poor!
checkthisfact 6 months ago
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checkthisfact 6 months ago
I'm sorry Tonya but I have to disagree.....it does more harm then good. God forbid when we get old the same thing happens to us.
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It is a sin to force people to live with minorities. I hate minorities and I want nothing to do with minorities. Their opinions concerns way of life, and ideas mean nothing. All they ever talk about is hating whitey. I can not stand them. They mean nothing to me.
MrAppleseed88 10 months ago
Love the add "date wealthy men"
nadoeloiskat 1 year ago
Gentrification is not completely bad or completely good.Diversity is good ,but depending on the expense of who, could be viewed as a bad thing.Its not good that nice people who are long time residents get forced out.It does not always happen though.Alot of people are able to stay and enjoy some of the additions.Alot of these places in brooklyn have had nice people living around alot of crime.Alot of times it would be hard to get any help from the police but now there on every corner.Nice video:)
losninjos60 1 year ago
So basically, gentrification introduces people to different cultures and different points of view. I agree. Nice analysis.
likemic05 1 year ago
also....I am more concerned about the preservation of the cultures. As minorities in a country, I believe it essential to have an "established" enclave...where "we" can experience being the majority...where we make our own decisions....WHILE establishing coalitions with other cultures. For some reason, I do not favor cultural mixing in black communities....especially after studying colonialism in Africa
i will write more later
drawde2004new 2 years ago
@drawde2004new i agree and i also believe that without cultural enclaves there will be mass genericism in cities, every neighborhood will basically be the same and nothing is unique
rayswag 8 months ago
I embrace your views on gentrification...in my perspective, I believe that the black middle class should intermingle with the black lower class. I believe we should strive to preserve the black community to prevent it from becoming dilluted. In my perspective, I think we need MORE concentrated, centrallized (successful) black communities for other blacks to model. We need a VISUAL manifestation of what black unity and progression is....
drawde2004new 2 years ago
Things you will find near the housing projects/poor neighborhoods: Liquor Store, Chinese Restaurant, Bodegas (of course they sell lucys), and a Fried Chicken Spot. I lived in the PJs in the boondocks of Staten Island and these were the only stores around. Always fast food near buy with bootleg grocery stores selling crap to the masses.
lunaone 2 years ago
This gentrification topic was very informative.
nshouston31 2 years ago
Yes the rich should support those less fortunate, but it often comes in the for of giving to the poor in other countries via missions.
But my main idea is that you should not judge the rich for where they live or how they spend their money.
And as Tonya alluded to poorer neighborhoods tend to have more obvious crime problems; and you can't blame the rich for wanting to live in 'safer' areas.
Judge not lest ye be judged; don't think you know why people do things unless you have talked to them
josephc4 2 years ago
I think it is silly to gripe about these trends that groups of people tend to follow.
It is sad that the rich people tend to live near each other so that those areas have the better schools, to the neglect of poorer areas...but its more than that. College educated people want to live near other college educated people and provide those kinds of examples for their kids as friends and neighbors.
josephc4 2 years ago
Just to comment on your question about the art of dance throughout different cultures, I think that you're right in that it appears that European dance is more bland than say, African dance but I wouldn't say that European dance lacks passion. I just think that it's just passion expressed differently; neither is better than the other, just different.
MLiPreti 2 years ago 2
Totally agree with you about gentrification, mixed neighbourhoods are great. It allows for so much more cultural education on all sides. I live just outside of Toronto (often called the most diverse city on the planet) and although many ethnic groups lived in non-mixed neighbourhoods some time ago, I find that with the newer generation there is so much more mixing of culture and income and it's great. I mean, we just finished up Caribana and 1mil people from all cultures came out to celebrate.
MLiPreti 2 years ago
Tonya,YOU LOOK GOOD!Happy upcoming birthday!
Astrid270718 2 years ago
The scarf rocks on you!
I have hear of gentrification since way back...maybe there exists the need to "getrify" African-Americans?
ShiekUrBooty 2 years ago
Tonya See me about the shopping cart options.
BlackHairandSkinCare 2 years ago
tonya, HIRE SOMEONE
cheezeluver4 2 years ago
...now I focus on these that sincerely and geniunely want to do better and make strides to do better.
I live where my money affords me to live. I could care less the color of the people in the neighborhood. If I feel safe then I'm happy. I can always drive to various places to "experience" culture.
cunningprose 2 years ago
9:10 Eutrophication
trini6roots 2 years ago
20:38, "now that was a hardy sneeze" lbmo!
jeremiahoneandfive 2 years ago 4
I would love to see a video about your time in the Britain considering its where i live. Another brilliant and as always intriguing video.
1Grosvenor3 2 years ago
this video and subject sounds like a good paper ;0)
9961269 2 years ago 4
hey I just noticed that you live in nyc too =] , where did you get your original shea butter from?
1nfamousP1nk 2 years ago
I am going to say something that may not be popular, but here goes. White flight is caused by the things of destruction you described. People who have money don't want to have their children living in a place that is dirty, unsafe, full of crime and drugs. Not after all the hard work, college educations, and striving to give their children a life of safety, and all the things they can have with that better life. Please understand I am not racist. Yes whites do leave when blacks arrive.
gateofsunrise 2 years ago
well that was very shallow... some ppl just wanna stick to their own kind... regardless how 'well kept' the new neighbor is.
ReneeArnold 2 years ago 2
GateofSunrise, white flight is sometimes a reality in suburban areas. On the other hand, across America many whites are moving into urban communities where the majority of the residents are black and/or hispanic.
nycdweller10038 2 years ago
Because they're chicken! And I'm serious when I say that, too. Instead of trying to stay and be part of the solutions to community problems, they wanna run to the exurbs. When gas hit $5 a gallon, I felt way less empathy for the folks who chose to make that optional 50+ mile commute than the everyday folks living paycheck to paycheck who had to 'lower themselves' with public transit. I'm not racist either, I'm just real--and I don't think white flighters should get that easy of a pass.
94fordtaurus 2 years ago
I agree...to an extent. When the White Flighters look at the new 'colored' neighbors (who are educated and looking for a better life) with fear and distain, it's a problem. Many believe the problem is an 'ethnic' thing when in fact it's poverty. It is VERY difficult to get out of the hood mentality (trust, me I was there). There are not many resources which breeds poverty/lack of education/crime/frustration. It's a wicket cycle that is very difficult to break.
lunaone 2 years ago
we all know this already
haitianzoezoe 2 years ago
i love watching ur walking vlogs...
they are interesting to watch..i like listening to all the different subjects and topics that u talk about..i also like watching ppl in ur backround..weird things happen..8)
itsxtlkFoSho 2 years ago 2
Nice to see you back Tonya and hope you get everything straightened out with the sheabutters.
Missed you! ; D
randapandapants77 2 years ago
My mother and other older people tell how it was back in the day. In her old neighborhood, you had a mix of black doctors and janitors. The butchers and storeowners were black. She had an HBCU in walking distance. And the neigborhood was prosperous. When integration happened people stopped shopping at their local stores, switched hospitals b/c they thought somebody else was better. Every storeowner in my neighborhood is Arab and don't hire black people. I drive somewhere instead of going there.
foreveropti79 2 years ago 3
Iam going to sound bad when I say this but its the truth all the same when areas become mixed/multiracial it usually mean the area goes down the shitter.
70Mack 2 years ago
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penny71 2 years ago
Sound like you're going thru the growing pains of an self employed, self reliant business woman. KEEP IT GOING and Be Free!
byintyme 2 years ago
Interesting topic, I was brought up in a 99.9% white middle class neighbourhood and felt very ill at ease and suffocated..later on in life, I lived in a multi racial "ghetto"...too raw and heavy but a lot of life and soul on the + point...and then a melting pot slightly more prosperous community...the latter was my fave jus because it was all goin on in the same place, a bit of this and that...the melting pot and less chance of getting sucked in to the "energy" of one narrow box..
ReviveUK 2 years ago
I still live in a 99 percent English area,its not a problem.Mostly its a good thing pretty much.Ive not got any kind of problem with English people.
70Mack 2 years ago
Lovely for you...different strokes for different folks...i am me and you are you :0)
ReviveUK 2 years ago
It is lovely yeah.
70Mack 2 years ago
cool. I'm a 3rd culture kid soo I've always been really international and multicultural even the areas I have lived in and prefer to live in. Though being in the black community back at home feels good. Never lived in the burbs before though. parents were urban middle class.
lordblazer 2 years ago
btw I am at an international university, but leaving it pretty soon.
lordblazer 2 years ago
I am in a whole soup of different people, races, religions, beliefs, traditions, incomes, gay, straight and I honestly would not have it any other way. They care for me and I care for them and we all learn to tolerate (don't misunderstand me I don't mean that in a bad way) and understand eachothers differences :D and it has made all the difference in my life
KodomoNoKaze 2 years ago
suggestion - sell them on ebay as a "buy now" and ebay will provide the software you need to charge for different areas :)
zazammweightloss 2 years ago
Hi Tonya thank you for the walking vlog I really enjoy them. Does not a Russian ballet dancer have just as much fervor for her art as a drummer in the Carribean but just in a different mode?
What is sad is that gentrification has to be something legislated instead of something we enthusiastically welcome as it should be.
yeohann1 2 years ago
Great henny penny reference; that used to be my favourite children's book. Seems as though my humble surroundings in FL are devout of any major gentrification, however an Afrian couple moved in next door. She wears these beautiful headwraps, and I hear the indigenous music every now and then.
I'm gonna be in NY for 10 daysss Tonya, expect me to storm up Central Park!!, hahaha.
5toic 2 years ago
Gentrification, or urban gentrification, is the change in an urban area associated with the movement of more affluent individuals into a lower-class area.[
chriscarter1225 2 years ago
The area experiences demographic shifts, including an increase in the median income, a reduction in household size, and often a decline in the proportion of lower-class groups. More households with higher incomes result in increased real estate values with higher associated rent, home prices, and property taxes. Industrial land use can decline with redevelopment bringing more commercial and residential use. Such changes often result in transformation of the neighborhood's character and culture.
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chriscarter1225 2 years ago
tonya is so funny - her videos would be so much shorter without the little sidenotes lol!
bemaniac2 2 years ago
what do u do for a living....if u dont mind telling
marie41789 2 years ago
gentrafication begins with mixing of incomes and culture but as the process matures you begin to see the neighborhood return to 'same class' and often the 'same culture'. Property values increase and in turn taxes increase. This prevents low income individuals from affording the rent. The process slowly but surely removes the lower class from the area. The lower class individuals are usually people of color, which changes the culture make up of the neighborhood.
poetree2000 2 years ago 2
He even invited me and my children to his home and to his daughter's weddng with was a sho-nuff BLAST!!! WHAT A PARTY!!!! All night long, non-stop fun with other families in their synagague (sp). He's retired now to Chicago, and I miss him so, but I will never forget our talks, the jokes and the fun. We all have alot to learn from other races.
KayKay37122 2 years ago
Tonya, as a black woman, I have had the beautiful opportunity of befriending a Jewish man. We worked together for years in the public school system. He was open to learn all about black culture and I was open to learn about the jewish culture.
KayKay37122 2 years ago
1. I agree with you about integration of neighborhhoods and bi-racial relationships. Therefore, I think we need to go on a date! :)
2. I have a buddy that professes to be a true New Yorker; he's puerto rican, born in a jewish hospital and carries the hebrew first name, went to a catholic school and grew up in harlem.
3. What's wrong with disrobing in a park? LOL
4. In the interests of of artistic aprreaciation only, I volunteer to watch a couple of indian women belly dancing provacitive
krenzzzo 2 years ago
pfft all si can say from my view is queens over here mostly dominicans but mostly puerto ricans each borough basically has its own 2 or 3 big group of cultures
LILMENACE88 2 years ago
I can see how integration can benefit not only the neighborhoods themselves but enrich the lives of everyone. Integrating a community brings about new ideas and perspectives. If people are a product of their environment one can only imagine the effects that living in a vaired integrated community would have on a person opposed to living in a uniformly depressed location.
medicinemanbatt 2 years ago
Great.video.Tonya
PClaytonHuggins 2 years ago
attack birdys, naked karate old guys, reappearing bug people LOL awesome! So much goes on in your videos !
nikkio3000 2 years ago
Tonya, just because there is an old man in the park stripping doesn't mean you have to film it, LOL
I'm over here eating and watching this video, I'm bout to lose my appetite, LOL.
CrackerVille2 2 years ago
You speak of alot of topics that I talk about..I can't help but to think we are of like mind and put here for this purpose to teach and preach..I agree with u..I feel like as black people our counterparts see us as not appreciating what we have so why give us something better.I should of done a video response because I have so much to say..So they pasify us with cheap rent in bad neighborhoods.Or stores that gear to people who are poor.Like Dollar Tree, Dollar General, Or Sav a Lot etc..
artistnme4life 2 years ago
Down here it's like, "The bible said, 'Don't mix the races'". It's a nightmare. SC is known as the backwards state for a reason. Some people down here don't know that the Jim Crow laws are dead.
fatdaddyb28 2 years ago
I think you are right we need to be surrounded with various cultures and classes. We can most certainly learn from everyone.
Teresita40 2 years ago
I am ROLLING at how you just walked up to those people filming a worm!!! AAAAAAAAaaahhhhh you are too much, I love it !
PinotNoir1975 2 years ago
But isn't gentrification a transforming process. I thought the final goal was to eliminate those of lower class. Also, I've experienced that many upper/middle class feel uncomfotrable by nearby lower class people. Do you think perhaps gentrification will increase competition among Blacks and further separate the unity? Like you were saying it has its gain by bringing exposure to better resources and lifestyles.
lynmed01 2 years ago
I love the scarf on your hair.
blgirl911 2 years ago
p.s notting hill has lots of culture lol they even have carnival there lol hence 'notting hill carnival'
xxpoisenandkissesxx 2 years ago
Thats why i feel so proud to live here in england,
Im a product of racial harmony :D
im tri-racial :D
xxpoisenandkissesxx 2 years ago
hooray! my TonyaTKO "crack" fix! MIssed your vids! :-p
nikkio3000 2 years ago
Honey you gonna have to pass that scarf over. That's all I've been wearing for the summer,.
chocara1 2 years ago
Get a teenager that you know/someone off from college, alittle work. To help you out doing the posting/packaging.
k252 2 years ago
That is a good idea and Tonya could give a the teens volunteer hours that are needed for school.
Teresita40 2 years ago
Hiya, i think you are amazing and you speak the truth..keep doing what your doing..Dont let anyone bring you down..You are beautiful-Hanani
xita2008 2 years ago
the green is algae blooms
julie1dramalover 2 years ago
Shave your head, a woamn can be bald and sexy.
get on with your bad self.
snoopdog68 2 years ago 2
cheah the fist...loved to hear ur voice again didnt see any videos of u for long time but now my laptop is working again...
BlackBlingGirl 2 years ago