...the bare-chested renegade warrior held her breathless against him with one powerful hand at the small of her back, and with his other hand, gently caressed her lips, her neck, her heaving breasts, and with a gentle brush of his fingertips over her aching nipple set off and explosion of uncontrollable passion...A rasping cough from a sixtyish woman standing next to her wearing a lime green pants suit dissipated her daydream.
This is fair advice for ANYBODY. ;-). I'm ok with this
"3) NEVER meet with an adult that you have met online without your parents being there. If someone wants to meet you unsupervised in real life--TELL YOUR PARENTS!!"
Note laws exist. You dont need to be a bunch of vigilantes about it. And I assume youtube has records too.
Your proposal he "debate his guilt" is STUPID and fundamentally UNCONSTITUIONAL. INNOCENT till proven guilty. That is the American way, if you don't like it, move to Saudi Arabia.
Here is a woman who has probably never heard of Irish282 or the YTYC. She is completely neutral in the feud going on here. But she has a video with great advices--It really is a must see, and very relevant to what goes on here--even though she probably knows absolutely nothing about these wars.
Mike Skehan is a main leader,and creater of the youtube Yahweh clan and encyclopediadramatica. They, in their own words, BRAG about doing this to people, just for the lulz.He has been suspended many times,and is actually banned,but he IS THE LEADER of the clan.
subseven and all other socks are Sarrey Creys,or something like that.SHE is only one of many yah members that fabricate horrid lies,about adults and CHILDREN.They attack and abuse anyone,even eachother.They are the bad people,and the group that lies to lure children.Please look into this further.I am not trying to clear the Irish issue.I simply want to judge on the truth only,and yahweh does not allow that!
If you think subseven is a sock of Sarrey Crey's, then you are beyond delusional. Even if YC wants to hurt people, as you say, that doesn't mean they aren't going after pedos. I'm not saying that every person they go after is a pedo, and I'm not saying that they never go overboard. They certainly do, at times. But I also think there is a genuine concern and a desire to go after pedos. Subseven even backs up his claims with a respectable amount of evidence.
Subseven is subseven - one of the most twisted psychopaths in possession of an internet connection. He never presents evidence of anything. He states outright fabrications as premises for arguments that merely serve his criminal agendas. He is a proven felon.
Subseven, your exposure as Sarry Crey by ace e-detective Meanstoanend has caused me to see you in a whole new light. I was just becoming reconciled to your identity as a pimp for a Vegas escort service, and now...now I must find a quiet place, where I may ponder this latest, disquieting revelation in solitude. I stand upon shifting sand, my friend. I just never thought of you as pretty, before.
Well, he certainly didn't take any of my suggestions... suggestions that I think any reasonable adult who was interested in the welfare of children would take.
He takes the stance that most other pedophiles do, that he has a right to "associate" with other peoples children. If you read any of the literature on the patterns that pedophiles use when grooming children, Irish282 has followed all of them. Big red flag is right.
You are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo dull. you sound like you have not gotten laid in a VERY long time!
Would it not be better to assert, with this type of evidence, only to the authorities,not the public? I see this as feeding the perversion,and it needs to be starved.
If you really feel bad about the vibrator video,"what the hell"are you doing linking it,BIG RED FLAG.Maybe you should have tried offering advice to kids like Logan, instead of being so cruel.Yes that type of vid would be wrong,you watched it,you link it wtf??
Just out of curiosity, do you actually know what the word pedophile means or are you just having fun assassinating people's character's? This is not, I REPEAT NOT, FUN & GAMES! You are slandering the characters of innocent people who are guilty of nothing more than trying to make kids feel good about themselves & like they are (gasp) ACTUALLY WORTH SOMETHING! Time to stop this nonsense right now!
kcro25 - Only a few people are going around pointing the finger and shouting "pedo", what most people are doing is saying the behaviour of many YouTubers is suspicious.
There is a right way & a wrong way to say it, though. Although I may disagree with the whole message of this video, I think that TMA makes some valid points about child safety. That being said, I was not necessarily referring to his video min my previous comment, I was referring to all the ED/Yahweh Clan assholes who think that it is fun to slander the good names & reputations of people who atually care about children.
hmm...it's amazing how much you know about the intentions of someone you've never met...this man has corraled children into private groups, got them to MSN with him, requested videos of them to film only their mouths, made tribute videos of them with their shirts off, and turned his entire channel into a shrine in order to get 12 year olds to be allowed on YouTube...yeah, he just "cares about children" alright
And for y'all's information, I have many more adult friends than you ever will! I just happen to be very good friends with the kid who is the son of my PCA (Personal Care Attendant)! And yes, I DO think of him as a brother!
Did I making sexually explicit comments to these kids?...NO! Did I leave comments asking the kids to take off their shirts or asking them when they were going to get pubic hair?...NO! Did I leave caring comments & in 1 case let my heart go out to a kid who had almost been killed?...HELL, YEAH!
and Im sorry, grown men should NOT have their own group for kids, usually male kids. Any females in their group? Prob not.
All the red flags arw still up as far as Im concerned.
And Logan is lying, everyone knows that. I agree with most of what you though. and 21mins is way too long to watch. we already know most of this stuff.
I would *suspect NossBiggar to be a law enforcement agent trying to draw me out. The answer he is trying to drag out is there on my profile, has been since I first set-up my YT acc.
I was linked here because I subscribe to Irish282 (this is because of his video on Lieuwe Van Gogh, but never mind that). I believe his sidebar defends him quite nicely.
Typically though, the pedophiles will try to put up this brave bold front that all the efforts against them aren't having an effect. However, when you see a small cross-sampling of just how angry and hate-filled they've become at us due to our efforts, you see just how large an effect those efforts have had.
I guess icons of children count as "subs to underage boys" now. I took a look at your channel & NOWHERE did I see anything incriminating! These assholes are so obsessed with besmirching the names of good people that they will pick up on anything that corroborates their views. Preety sick & disgusting, isn't it?
Thank you, I guess that these guys have no life beyond there PCs. Many appear to be online constantly judging by their rapid responses to my comments. of course they do not worry me, one iota.
All right, clearly the Dr. Zeas reference meant nothing to you, because you're continuing to act like him. Perhaps if I said McCarthy instead?
As a matter of fact, I'm eighteen and usually look at the political videos, but whenever I go outside that sphere, there are a whole lot of teenagers making videos.
And a whole lot of middle-aged guys on Craigowl's subscriptions, now that I look at it. Prurient interest, I'm sure, McCarthy.
Pedophiles by their very nature are cowards. They can't handle relationships with adults. Grown women and grown men are beyond their ability in general. One other thing they also can't handle are anti-pedophile activists that refuse to debate them. Too many in the past would "ask them questions" or "try to understand them." Thankfully, our organization is smart enough to eschew all of that and go right after them. They don't like that.
Seriously, I really don't get when middle-aged men are befriending under aged boys on YouTube. What's it all about. If it's wanting to be a father figure to a younger generation, then they should go out and knock up the first willing hell-hound.
Yes it's suspicious; more REAL parental guardianship is needed here as well as the rest of the Internet.
In my locality, AS WELL AS MY OWN KIDS, I deal with youngsters everyday; boys and girls; all ages; we have developed rapport and mutual respect. Over the years, I have built up relationships with generations of school kids. If anyone were to molest them physically, psychologically & sexually. there would a lot of dead bodies lying around
I have developed a cosomopolitan outlook towards everyone, providing their activities are within the law of the land, who am I to criticise or condemn.
<b>"I like dick. I like to get fucked by dick and I like to suck dick...and I'm good at it, too." --Justin to his school counselor on Queer as Folk. That quote just cracks me up.</b>
and you expect me to believe you block people for saying similar things to you?...highly doubtful...you fail
I'm not surprised. From what I've seen on here, Irish282 is unable and unwilling to interact with adults. I'm sure he'll be accusing you of hating children next.
this is the same crap that denderphillian was pushing. we also used to wipe with our hands after taking a crap too, then came toliet paper, its called evolution..it was wrong in ancient Greece..its wrong now..get it? also interesting how this argument always turns from saying Someone is not a pedophille..to its okay to be one because the greeks did it...which is it? can't be both..that is unless its NAMBLA propganda all along.
high school wasn't that long ago for me and i remember it very well and 13&14 year old boys don't date other boys. Its just the reality of the high school environment.
oh..you mean boys, with boys...right!!! there is such a thing as paederastry = homosexual relations between men and boys.Ancient Greek literature is loaded with such relationships. Heracles for instance was paederastic. sometimes it was the boys who initiated the relationship. oscar wilde`s downfall was at the hands of a young boy
oh..you mean boys, with boys...right!!! there is such a thing as paederastry = homosexual relations between men and boys.Ancient Greek literature is loaded with such relationships. Heracles for instance was paederastic. sometimes it was the boys who initiated the relationship. oscar wilde`s downfall was at the hands of a young boy
wow, he pulled outthe NAMBLA textbook for you. You got him all fired up. Again, its interesting to look at the adult characters that come out to defend Irish282.
Just investigated your channel kaileb1992.. If you are really a true earth child, your use of course language and innuendo shows me signs of the bad influence of these type of child groomers. This saddens Rom.
Not a chance in hell this 'kaileb'guy is who he says he is. It doesn't take a genius to figure these things out. Looks like TidewaterHippie1969 has company.
then leave kaileb1992.BEGONE!! The days of the pedophile enablers like you who stand back and do nothing are fading, just like the glorious suns of my homeworld, long ago. this new planet of Youtube is wonderful, but is overun with child stalkers like Irish282, and that I will change on my oath as A Spaceknight
I find this video, way more too the point and the issue of the situation, and I actually applaud your effort to actually bring some legitimate concerns about this problem into the debate, and not strange acusations, that have no base in evidence. Irish282 and loganspearman, also raise red flags for me, but I dont agree with the red flags about Tim. Anyway good job.
Well thought out TMA. It would be nice if Irish came here for a discussion instead of randomly replying on kids channels subjecting them to this adult conversation.
I can't believe he sits back and watches a couple of his boys defend him and his lies. And yes, I whole heartedly agree--this is a conversation for adults.
It's not only the yewhew clan or ED people. They are several people concerned about Irish's behaviour. Simply looking around at comments on various videos shows that. Irish has attempted to group all the people together to make it seem as tho less are questioning him.
TMA, I agree with you regarding that a person intentions may be innocent and a parent should definately know. My only issue is that internet child safety sites and police service sites are clear about not giving this info out to strangers. If this is an opinion held by professionals who have seen unspeakable horrors, to suggest kids do otherwise may put them in danger.
excellent point. If someones actions are putting a child in danger it would be irresponsible for people not to say something and wait til after an assault. Sure, they would have stuff to take to the police then but there would also be another life destroyed. There are clear internet safety rules. If an adult is encouraging a child to break them, he needs to be adressed.
I recommend that you also read the side bars that the video makers include for further discussion when they make their videos. They include them as an addendum to what they cover in the actual video. They are part and parcel of the entire presentation and often include additional comments on the subject matter. You know. You do it by clicking on "more". That might help you follow the conversations better.
No, I am embarrassing you and everyone else who is OK with calling people's character into question with nothing more than mere speculation and no hard evidence to back it up. Doing such a thing is wrong. The participants should be chastised and their wrong doing pointed out.
sorry SSanf, you're not embarassing anyone...your logic is unsound...investigations don't start with hard evidence, they end with it...they start with suspicions
Are any of the people doing this both qualified and legally authorized to run an investigation? If so, is it reasonable that they would publish the details on a public forum? Or, is it more reasonable that this is simply vicious gossip?
Ah, I see if it is about you, it is stupid. But, if it is about someone else, that is perfectly OK. You = stupid. Someone else = rational and reasonable.
Oh, then, I want everyone to know that you "might" be having relations with the 10 year old down the street. The evidence is there. We all saw you talk to her and pat her on the shoulder. Seems suspicious to me. You just "might be" or "could be" a child molester. Of course, it is not a certainty.
lol...unbelievable...here's a perfect example of suspicion...craigowl is 51 years old, and his channel, just like Irish282's has been turned into a Jesari shrine!....look at the description "REINSTATE JESSE`S *JESARI ACCOUNT IF HE PROMISES TO LEAVE THE DILDOS IN ALONE"...why the hell does a 51 year old man want dildos in Jesari????
I was fairly impressed with craigowl's intelegent rebutal tho. He raised some interesting points. Points like, the adults defending Irish appear to have interesting profiles.
I am quite proud that you have accessed my profile twice within 24 hours. yes i did see one of only 2 jesari vids before suspension. #1 featured a dildo.
Why does a 50+ man subscribe to a bunch of users that only post videos of preteen, half naked boys? Just asking because most of your sub-list seems to be made up of that.
why do thousands of men & woman around the world run football, soccer, little league and other similar organisations? my subs. list is my personal choice and does not consist entirely of pre-teen, half naked boys. which quite obvious if you were to scan it properly
running football, soccer, little league clubs for kids is entirely different to subscribing to a whole bunch of underage boys though. For one you can't be monitored in your actions over the internet to the extent that you can IRL. Plus clubs like that provide a service, what are you actually doing for these kids?
Look at it from my prospective -- doesn't it seem a little odd that a 50+ man is hanging out with little boys over the internet? There's plenty of people your own age out there.
more kids have been sexually abused, buggered and raped by people they know - fathers, mothers, grandparents, uncles, siblings, priests, school teachers, youth leaders - than someone who spends a couple of hours each day surfing on the net. where do you fit in?
Because clearly, you can't be subscribed to someone if you don't want to have sex with them. And clearly, anyone under twenty doesn't have anything to say that an adult needs to bother with.
"Age is foolish and forgetful when it underestimates youth." -- Albus Dumbledore
TMA, they don't believe for a second that Irish282 is actually a pedophile, the same MORONS who made these claims also called me a pedophile and called Geriatric1927 a pedophile, it's just one of their favorite things to call people. I do agree though that he shouldn't tell kids to turn to a private group for help, they should turn to their parents, period. Of course, minors shouldn't be on here unsupervised in the first place.
Argent...i never called you a pedo, and i never called Geriatric a pedo....actually you're just the opposite...you like old men...by the way, that was pretty funny how you tried to hack your ED article with a perl script on a php based wiki...lol, fail
Pedophilia: sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object? Strong accusation? Or a legitimate a resonable accusation when numerous signs, or red flags are present?
Irish282 sent me a message in which he said, "YTV does not deal or care about or touch Ytask or any other public matter unless WE are ourselves are attacked." If that is so, what is the point?
true....but it is quite disturbing upon closer examination to realize that by that statement, Irish has implied that he has been on instant messenger with ALL of the other young boys that were in the YTV...and it also brings up other questions like: why IM?...isn't YT email and group forums enough?...a probable answer: IM allows live video chat unlike email and forums
Well, tma, I guess sometimes your pride has to be sacrificed for the truth! I am just glad that you find yourself strong enough to use whatever "filth" is necessary to bring evidence to light. Good job as always.
By stating that you think he "might" be a pedophile you add additional fuel to the fire. A lot of people respect your opinion and a lot of people view your videos. You can be sure that if you state that he "might" be a pedophile others will be certain that he is. If you have genuine concerns, you need to go to the authorities with your concerns.
Otherwise, you need to maintain the position that the truth is unknown and that everyone is entitled to the presumption of innocence until there is positive proof that they are guilty. Now, it has been impressed on everyone the themaskedanalyst harbors suspicions that UpDownMostly might be a pedophile. What are you going to do to make it up to this poor man if you are wrong? No apology will ever be enough. The damage is done.
This is silly....if you saw a man with a hammer walking towards your car would you not ask him what he's doing?...would you first go to the authorities with your concerns?...if you did, do you know what they would say?...they would tell you to call them AFTER a crime has been commited...they don't stop crime, they clean up after it
This video clearly looked vote botted.
supersmash43 4 months ago
he's sooooooooooooo guilty, tma
Doja187ytv 2 years ago 2
Why does one need "evidence" to prove irish282 is a pedophile. Every single user irish282 was accused WITHOUT proof...
At the same time, I have no doubts that those people he has accused were pedophiles. Some of them at least.
But Irish282's brb FBI claim is a means to get himself closer to kids.
tenchimuyo69 2 years ago 2
his mask looks like those masks mexican people sell near the border line lol
joshisleet123 2 years ago 3
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...the bare-chested renegade warrior held her breathless against him with one powerful hand at the small of her back, and with his other hand, gently caressed her lips, her neck, her heaving breasts, and with a gentle brush of his fingertips over her aching nipple set off and explosion of uncontrollable passion...A rasping cough from a sixtyish woman standing next to her wearing a lime green pants suit dissipated her daydream.
coolhandluke2401 2 years ago
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Your mask is really cool...
Kenny2k08 2 years ago
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Wtf?
FinalCutPro11 2 years ago
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He should stop defending little boys all the time. People won't think he's such a paedo anymore.
Kenny2k08 2 years ago
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cut a bigger hole for oyur mouth and/or get a better sound recorder becasue this sounds like shit.
Ts0usermax 2 years ago
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Lol what the hell is upp with IRISH282? what is he a minority? well he sucks ass
WiiMaster20 3 years ago
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This is fair advice for ANYBODY. ;-). I'm ok with this
"3) NEVER meet with an adult that you have met online without your parents being there. If someone wants to meet you unsupervised in real life--TELL YOUR PARENTS!!"
Peace
truevoiceofsanity 3 years ago
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Note laws exist. You dont need to be a bunch of vigilantes about it. And I assume youtube has records too.
Your proposal he "debate his guilt" is STUPID and fundamentally UNCONSTITUIONAL. INNOCENT till proven guilty. That is the American way, if you don't like it, move to Saudi Arabia.
truevoiceofsanity 3 years ago
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How about this instead!!!
People who believe they have evidence of his "guilt" report it to authorities!!!
Whatever 'red flags' you may have had, there is something called innocent till proven guilty.
All the users you mention either a) did report to youtube and/or police (FBI) for example or b) did not have a case.
Basicaly, you are indirectly propagating SLANDER and character assasination.
His accusers should either a) PUT UP (so he can get convicted) or b) SHUT UP (slander)
truevoiceofsanity 3 years ago
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fucking idiot
ThaCase93 3 years ago
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FAGGOTRY.
gandhiprime 3 years ago 2
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Oh shi-
SubsevenRising 3 years ago
Here is a woman who has probably never heard of Irish282 or the YTYC. She is completely neutral in the feud going on here. But she has a video with great advices--It really is a must see, and very relevant to what goes on here--even though she probably knows absolutely nothing about these wars.
watch?v=rEzmsx0WpJk
themaskedanalyst 3 years ago
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What's wrong with children asking for help? Come on! ust because one in every hundred groups might be run by a paedophil - so what?!
fencingmatt 3 years ago
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Somebody plz tell me why Irish282 is infamous
TheVikingDoctor 3 years ago
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Go to Encyclopedia Dramatica. There, the internet is converted into words for you to understand :P
7410n0 3 years ago
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Mike Skehan is a main leader,and creater of the youtube Yahweh clan and encyclopediadramatica. They, in their own words, BRAG about doing this to people, just for the lulz.He has been suspended many times,and is actually banned,but he IS THE LEADER of the clan.
themeanstoanend 3 years ago
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Oh my fucking God. You can't be this silly.
testingchannel 3 years ago 2
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She really is.
Steelglint 3 years ago 2
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subseven and all other socks are Sarrey Creys,or something like that.SHE is only one of many yah members that fabricate horrid lies,about adults and CHILDREN.They attack and abuse anyone,even eachother.They are the bad people,and the group that lies to lure children.Please look into this further.I am not trying to clear the Irish issue.I simply want to judge on the truth only,and yahweh does not allow that!
themeanstoanend 3 years ago
If you think subseven is a sock of Sarrey Crey's, then you are beyond delusional. Even if YC wants to hurt people, as you say, that doesn't mean they aren't going after pedos. I'm not saying that every person they go after is a pedo, and I'm not saying that they never go overboard. They certainly do, at times. But I also think there is a genuine concern and a desire to go after pedos. Subseven even backs up his claims with a respectable amount of evidence.
themaskedanalyst 3 years ago
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SHE is a lying ewhore,just like Vanessa.You might be having trouble seeing out of that mask.
themeanstoanend 3 years ago
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Subseven is subseven - one of the most twisted psychopaths in possession of an internet connection. He never presents evidence of anything. He states outright fabrications as premises for arguments that merely serve his criminal agendas. He is a proven felon.
Zeus288 3 years ago
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Dammit Brenda! How dare you expose me like this! Your elite detective skillz have truly been my downfall.
SubsevenRising 3 years ago 4
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Subseven, your exposure as Sarry Crey by ace e-detective Meanstoanend has caused me to see you in a whole new light. I was just becoming reconciled to your identity as a pimp for a Vegas escort service, and now...now I must find a quiet place, where I may ponder this latest, disquieting revelation in solitude. I stand upon shifting sand, my friend. I just never thought of you as pretty, before.
troyriser 3 years ago
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You need to go to encyclopediadramatica(dot)com.
Yahweh is guilty of fabricating more of the accusations against possible pedophiles than using anything real to stop them.
themeanstoanend 3 years ago
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Irish has more socs now than the clan does.
GothicCharm 3 years ago
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Too bad Irish didn't take you're advice.
GothicCharm 3 years ago
Well, he certainly didn't take any of my suggestions... suggestions that I think any reasonable adult who was interested in the welfare of children would take.
Big Red Flag.
themaskedanalyst 3 years ago 2
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He takes the stance that most other pedophiles do, that he has a right to "associate" with other peoples children. If you read any of the literature on the patterns that pedophiles use when grooming children, Irish282 has followed all of them. Big red flag is right.
SubsevenRising 3 years ago 4
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Irish282 is not a pedophile... Oh my god, maybe he has his reasons for flagging some videos. Anyways, he's already banned so WHATEVER o_o;
Lucariae 4 years ago
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LOL That mask kinda scares me O_O
Lucariae 4 years ago 3
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Good for you, buddy. At least someone has some common sense around here.
FlaggerFighters 4 years ago
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got stfu irish is a pedo
akc370 4 years ago 4
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nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrdddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!
hahahaha7718 4 years ago
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Irish282 is not a pedophile. Although, I don't know about TobiranHorde. I mean he did have the shirt.
kabono 4 years ago
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you need to see this video:
watch?v=ngnvbjcbXfA
YouCantKillAGhost 4 years ago
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You are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo dull. you sound like you have not gotten laid in a VERY long time!
AuECS 4 years ago
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i hear that you are a faggot
illesim16 4 years ago
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Would it not be better to assert, with this type of evidence, only to the authorities,not the public? I see this as feeding the perversion,and it needs to be starved.
themeanstoanend 4 years ago
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If you really feel bad about the vibrator video,"what the hell"are you doing linking it,BIG RED FLAG.Maybe you should have tried offering advice to kids like Logan, instead of being so cruel.Yes that type of vid would be wrong,you watched it,you link it wtf??
themeanstoanend 4 years ago
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LOL @ Your mask! LOL!
acidtones1 4 years ago
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frigin ray mysterio wanabe
illesim16 4 years ago
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Just out of curiosity, do you actually know what the word pedophile means or are you just having fun assassinating people's character's? This is not, I REPEAT NOT, FUN & GAMES! You are slandering the characters of innocent people who are guilty of nothing more than trying to make kids feel good about themselves & like they are (gasp) ACTUALLY WORTH SOMETHING! Time to stop this nonsense right now!
kcro25 4 years ago
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kcro25 - Only a few people are going around pointing the finger and shouting "pedo", what most people are doing is saying the behaviour of many YouTubers is suspicious.
NossBigger 4 years ago
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There is a right way & a wrong way to say it, though. Although I may disagree with the whole message of this video, I think that TMA makes some valid points about child safety. That being said, I was not necessarily referring to his video min my previous comment, I was referring to all the ED/Yahweh Clan assholes who think that it is fun to slander the good names & reputations of people who atually care about children.
kcro25 4 years ago
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hmm...it's amazing how much you know about the intentions of someone you've never met...this man has corraled children into private groups, got them to MSN with him, requested videos of them to film only their mouths, made tribute videos of them with their shirts off, and turned his entire channel into a shrine in order to get 12 year olds to be allowed on YouTube...yeah, he just "cares about children" alright
YouCantKillAGhost 4 years ago
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And for y'all's information, I have many more adult friends than you ever will! I just happen to be very good friends with the kid who is the son of my PCA (Personal Care Attendant)! And yes, I DO think of him as a brother!
kcro25 4 years ago
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Why would you need a PCA?
NossBigger 4 years ago
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Why would anyone need a PCA? Because I have a physical disability & need someone to come help me get ready in the morning.
kcro25 4 years ago
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That was a pointless comment on my part, sorry about that.
NossBigger 4 years ago
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If they all sub to young boys on here then how are they are going to defend themselves against the obvious?
AcidZombies 4 years ago
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Did I making sexually explicit comments to these kids?...NO! Did I leave comments asking the kids to take off their shirts or asking them when they were going to get pubic hair?...NO! Did I leave caring comments & in 1 case let my heart go out to a kid who had almost been killed?...HELL, YEAH!
kcro25 4 years ago
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Why are you reading from a script dude?
and Im sorry, grown men should NOT have their own group for kids, usually male kids. Any females in their group? Prob not.
All the red flags arw still up as far as Im concerned.
And Logan is lying, everyone knows that. I agree with most of what you though. and 21mins is way too long to watch. we already know most of this stuff.
AcidZombies 4 years ago
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I would *suspect NossBiggar to be a law enforcement agent trying to draw me out. The answer he is trying to drag out is there on my profile, has been since I first set-up my YT acc.
craigowl 4 years ago
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I was linked here because I subscribe to Irish282 (this is because of his video on Lieuwe Van Gogh, but never mind that). I believe his sidebar defends him quite nicely.
BlueReckless 4 years ago
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Hi TMA, just wanted to let you know that as i expected Irish282 filed a DMCA claim on my video response to you.
YahwehsKitty 4 years ago 2
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Typically though, the pedophiles will try to put up this brave bold front that all the efforts against them aren't having an effect. However, when you see a small cross-sampling of just how angry and hate-filled they've become at us due to our efforts, you see just how large an effect those efforts have had.
NossBigger 4 years ago
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I wonder if you are a paedophile/paederast......are you?
craigowl 4 years ago
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Craigowl, your subs list is mostly underaged boys - you look very guilty.
NossBigger 4 years ago
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what is your measure for "underaged boys"?
craigowl 4 years ago
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I guess icons of children count as "subs to underage boys" now. I took a look at your channel & NOWHERE did I see anything incriminating! These assholes are so obsessed with besmirching the names of good people that they will pick up on anything that corroborates their views. Preety sick & disgusting, isn't it?
kcro25 4 years ago
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Thank you, I guess that these guys have no life beyond there PCs. Many appear to be online constantly judging by their rapid responses to my comments. of course they do not worry me, one iota.
craigowl 4 years ago
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Why hello there, Dr. Zeas. Perhaps you weren't aware of the overwhelming amount of teenagers on YouTube?
BlueReckless 4 years ago
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I would only seem that there's an overwhelming amount of teenagers on YouTube if you actively seek out underage youtube users.
To the average youtuber, there's more adults than children.
NossBigger 4 years ago
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All right, clearly the Dr. Zeas reference meant nothing to you, because you're continuing to act like him. Perhaps if I said McCarthy instead?
As a matter of fact, I'm eighteen and usually look at the political videos, but whenever I go outside that sphere, there are a whole lot of teenagers making videos.
And a whole lot of middle-aged guys on Craigowl's subscriptions, now that I look at it. Prurient interest, I'm sure, McCarthy.
BlueReckless 4 years ago
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So, you think it's ok for child groomers to use Youtube?
NossBigger 4 years ago
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No. I also don't think it's okay to accuse people of child grooming right and left.
BlueReckless 4 years ago
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Pedophiles by their very nature are cowards. They can't handle relationships with adults. Grown women and grown men are beyond their ability in general. One other thing they also can't handle are anti-pedophile activists that refuse to debate them. Too many in the past would "ask them questions" or "try to understand them." Thankfully, our organization is smart enough to eschew all of that and go right after them. They don't like that.
NossBigger 4 years ago
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"our" organisation what the heck is that?
craigowl 4 years ago
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Seriously, I really don't get when middle-aged men are befriending under aged boys on YouTube. What's it all about. If it's wanting to be a father figure to a younger generation, then they should go out and knock up the first willing hell-hound.
Yes it's suspicious; more REAL parental guardianship is needed here as well as the rest of the Internet.
NossBigger 4 years ago
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what makes you think that I am not a father or even grandfather?
craigowl 4 years ago
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Was any of that aimed at you?
You're really on the defensive, textbook behavior there.
NossBigger 4 years ago
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In my locality, AS WELL AS MY OWN KIDS, I deal with youngsters everyday; boys and girls; all ages; we have developed rapport and mutual respect. Over the years, I have built up relationships with generations of school kids. If anyone were to molest them physically, psychologically & sexually. there would a lot of dead bodies lying around
I have developed a cosomopolitan outlook towards everyone, providing their activities are within the law of the land, who am I to criticise or condemn.
craigowl 4 years ago
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i cant take him seriously with that mask, AWESOME MASK...NACHO DOUCHEBAG!!!!!!!!!
TheGoosen 4 years ago
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kaileb1992, this is from your channel:
<b>"I like dick. I like to get fucked by dick and I like to suck dick...and I'm good at it, too." --Justin to his school counselor on Queer as Folk. That quote just cracks me up.</b>
and you expect me to believe you block people for saying similar things to you?...highly doubtful...you fail
TheGhostOfSubseven 4 years ago
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If you were really 14 then i wouldnt have to be telling you about the social environment of middle school. just make a vlog, clear things up for us.
EDiothede 4 years ago
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I'm not surprised. From what I've seen on here, Irish282 is unable and unwilling to interact with adults. I'm sure he'll be accusing you of hating children next.
YahwehsKitty 4 years ago
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right...and you're just totally unbiased right?....your "friends" with Irish282, tbryantswk, and who knows how many other groomers
TheGhostOfSubseven 4 years ago
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of course, my guess is that he's one of them
EDiothede 4 years ago
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this is the same crap that denderphillian was pushing. we also used to wipe with our hands after taking a crap too, then came toliet paper, its called evolution..it was wrong in ancient Greece..its wrong now..get it? also interesting how this argument always turns from saying Someone is not a pedophille..to its okay to be one because the greeks did it...which is it? can't be both..that is unless its NAMBLA propganda all along.
RomSpaceknight 4 years ago
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no it is far from being ok...paedophilia is wrong, both morally and legally.
craigowl 4 years ago
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you're absolutely right Rom...those NAMBLA arguments don't hold up in court, and they don't hold up here either
TheGhostOfSubseven 4 years ago
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what makes you think hes not headed there?
RomSpaceknight 4 years ago
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MENSA??? HA! my CPU is far greater than any mere human readings could register. MENSA is a joke in every other part of the galaxy.FYI
RomSpaceknight 4 years ago
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14 year olds don't have boyfriends
EDiothede 4 years ago
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of course 14 year olds have boyfriends
craigowl 4 years ago
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high school wasn't that long ago for me and i remember it very well and 13&14 year old boys don't date other boys. Its just the reality of the high school environment.
EDiothede 4 years ago
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oh..you mean boys, with boys...right!!! there is such a thing as paederastry = homosexual relations between men and boys.Ancient Greek literature is loaded with such relationships. Heracles for instance was paederastic. sometimes it was the boys who initiated the relationship. oscar wilde`s downfall was at the hands of a young boy
craigowl 4 years ago
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what the hell are you talking about?
EDiothede 4 years ago
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not really a problem unless grown men are trying to BE their boyfriends.
RomSpaceknight 4 years ago
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which is pretty much whats going on with the subject of this video.
RomSpaceknight 4 years ago
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oh..you mean boys, with boys...right!!! there is such a thing as paederastry = homosexual relations between men and boys.Ancient Greek literature is loaded with such relationships. Heracles for instance was paederastic. sometimes it was the boys who initiated the relationship. oscar wilde`s downfall was at the hands of a young boy
craigowl 4 years ago
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is this your attempt at justifing it as rightous, what happened in ancient greece thousands of years ago? I think you have lost me anyway
EDiothede 4 years ago
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no it is far from being ok...paedophilia is wrong, both morally and legally.
craigowl 4 years ago
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you don't seem to think so, do you consider yourself a morally clean man?
EDiothede 4 years ago
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wow, he pulled outthe NAMBLA textbook for you. You got him all fired up. Again, its interesting to look at the adult characters that come out to defend Irish282.
ShuddupStupid 4 years ago
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oh shit...another one...pedo and proud of it
TheGhostOfSubseven 4 years ago
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I have all that the evidence you mentioned and more. he has been reported.
RomSpaceknight 4 years ago
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Just investigated your channel kaileb1992.. If you are really a true earth child, your use of course language and innuendo shows me signs of the bad influence of these type of child groomers. This saddens Rom.
RomSpaceknight 4 years ago
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Not a chance in hell this 'kaileb'guy is who he says he is. It doesn't take a genius to figure these things out. Looks like TidewaterHippie1969 has company.
EDiothede 4 years ago
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then leave kaileb1992.BEGONE!! The days of the pedophile enablers like you who stand back and do nothing are fading, just like the glorious suns of my homeworld, long ago. this new planet of Youtube is wonderful, but is overun with child stalkers like Irish282, and that I will change on my oath as A Spaceknight
RomSpaceknight 4 years ago
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Don't know what it is all about but Irish always raises issues important for all of us...I like all his bulletins, he is very helpful...
BeautySavesWorld 4 years ago
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I've sent an email to XavierVE, the admin of Perverted-Justice, over the abuse of children on youtube by certain adult members.
NossBigger 4 years ago
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How does one accuse someone of pedophilia? That makes about as much sense as accusing someone of being gay.
tingtangs 4 years ago
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I find this video, way more too the point and the issue of the situation, and I actually applaud your effort to actually bring some legitimate concerns about this problem into the debate, and not strange acusations, that have no base in evidence. Irish282 and loganspearman, also raise red flags for me, but I dont agree with the red flags about Tim. Anyway good job.
tomhp1 4 years ago
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well said TMA
TheGhostOfSubseven 4 years ago
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Well thought out TMA. It would be nice if Irish came here for a discussion instead of randomly replying on kids channels subjecting them to this adult conversation.
ShuddupStupid 4 years ago
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yeah, it's ridiculous how he claims to be helping kids, even while he's using them as human shields....some hero
TheGhostOfSubseven 4 years ago
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I can't believe he sits back and watches a couple of his boys defend him and his lies. And yes, I whole heartedly agree--this is a conversation for adults.
YahwehsKitty 4 years ago
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It's not only the yewhew clan or ED people. They are several people concerned about Irish's behaviour. Simply looking around at comments on various videos shows that. Irish has attempted to group all the people together to make it seem as tho less are questioning him.
ShuddupStupid 4 years ago
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TMA, I agree with you regarding that a person intentions may be innocent and a parent should definately know. My only issue is that internet child safety sites and police service sites are clear about not giving this info out to strangers. If this is an opinion held by professionals who have seen unspeakable horrors, to suggest kids do otherwise may put them in danger.
ShuddupStupid 4 years ago
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excellent point. If someones actions are putting a child in danger it would be irresponsible for people not to say something and wait til after an assault. Sure, they would have stuff to take to the police then but there would also be another life destroyed. There are clear internet safety rules. If an adult is encouraging a child to break them, he needs to be adressed.
ShuddupStupid 4 years ago
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GREAT video TMA. Loved the beginning!!
WE ALL KNOW IRISH IS A PEDOPHILE.
BitterBlackMan 4 years ago
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lol
TheGhostOfSubseven 4 years ago
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You're welcome. I knew it would help.
SSanf 4 years ago
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I recommend that you also read the side bars that the video makers include for further discussion when they make their videos. They include them as an addendum to what they cover in the actual video. They are part and parcel of the entire presentation and often include additional comments on the subject matter. You know. You do it by clicking on "more". That might help you follow the conversations better.
SSanf 4 years ago
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I have refered ot UpDownMostly in my comments. It is reasonable to assume that is who I am refering to.
SSanf 4 years ago
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Please, try to follow the conversation.
SSanf 4 years ago
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No, I am embarrassing you and everyone else who is OK with calling people's character into question with nothing more than mere speculation and no hard evidence to back it up. Doing such a thing is wrong. The participants should be chastised and their wrong doing pointed out.
SSanf 4 years ago
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sorry SSanf, you're not embarassing anyone...your logic is unsound...investigations don't start with hard evidence, they end with it...they start with suspicions
TheGhostOfSubseven 4 years ago
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And, so do slander, libel and defamation of character!
SSanf 4 years ago
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Are any of the people doing this both qualified and legally authorized to run an investigation? If so, is it reasonable that they would publish the details on a public forum? Or, is it more reasonable that this is simply vicious gossip?
SSanf 4 years ago
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qualified and legally authorized by who?...the Internet Police?
TheGhostOfSubseven 4 years ago
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Ah, I see if it is about you, it is stupid. But, if it is about someone else, that is perfectly OK. You = stupid. Someone else = rational and reasonable.
SSanf 4 years ago
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Oh, then, I want everyone to know that you "might" be having relations with the 10 year old down the street. The evidence is there. We all saw you talk to her and pat her on the shoulder. Seems suspicious to me. You just "might be" or "could be" a child molester. Of course, it is not a certainty.
SSanf 4 years ago
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ALL POWER TO IRISH282
craigowl 4 years ago
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lol...unbelievable...here's a perfect example of suspicion...craigowl is 51 years old, and his channel, just like Irish282's has been turned into a Jesari shrine!....look at the description "REINSTATE JESSE`S *JESARI ACCOUNT IF HE PROMISES TO LEAVE THE DILDOS IN ALONE"...why the hell does a 51 year old man want dildos in Jesari????
TheGhostOfSubseven 4 years ago
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oh, now he's changed it...now his channel says he wants the dildos out...we're making aome progress here at least
TheGhostOfSubseven 4 years ago
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I was fairly impressed with craigowl's intelegent rebutal tho. He raised some interesting points. Points like, the adults defending Irish appear to have interesting profiles.
ShuddupStupid 4 years ago
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I am quite proud that you have accessed my profile twice within 24 hours. yes i did see one of only 2 jesari vids before suspension. #1 featured a dildo.
who / heck encouraged this.
craigowl 4 years ago
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are you saying Jesari really had a video with a dildo in it?
TheGhostOfSubseven 4 years ago
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so what!!!!!!!!!!
craigowl 4 years ago
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Question for craigowl:
Why does a 50+ man subscribe to a bunch of users that only post videos of preteen, half naked boys? Just asking because most of your sub-list seems to be made up of that.
NossBigger 4 years ago
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why do thousands of men & woman around the world run football, soccer, little league and other similar organisations? my subs. list is my personal choice and does not consist entirely of pre-teen, half naked boys. which quite obvious if you were to scan it properly
craigowl 4 years ago
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running football, soccer, little league clubs for kids is entirely different to subscribing to a whole bunch of underage boys though. For one you can't be monitored in your actions over the internet to the extent that you can IRL. Plus clubs like that provide a service, what are you actually doing for these kids?
Look at it from my prospective -- doesn't it seem a little odd that a 50+ man is hanging out with little boys over the internet? There's plenty of people your own age out there.
NossBigger 4 years ago
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more kids have been sexually abused, buggered and raped by people they know - fathers, mothers, grandparents, uncles, siblings, priests, school teachers, youth leaders - than someone who spends a couple of hours each day surfing on the net. where do you fit in?
craigowl 4 years ago
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I only interact with people my own age.
You however seem to be emotionally stunted, seeing that you feel the need to seek out interaction with children.
Anyone under the age of 18 should be banned from YouTube, which would mean you'd lose a lot of friends.
NossBigger 4 years ago
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"I only interact with people my own age." what a very small world you exist in
craigowl 4 years ago
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Craigowl, you still haven't answered my question.
Stalling makes you look guilty.
NossBigger 4 years ago
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Craigowl - you still haven't answered my original question about why is a 50+ subbed to dozens of underage boys.
NossBigger 4 years ago
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Sorry, that should be "why is a 50+ man subbed to dozens of underage boys."
NossBigger 4 years ago
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out of a total subsc. list amounting to 59. 37 are adult = 22 youngsters. dozens indeed, suppose it depends on how many fingers on your hands
craigowl 4 years ago
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A dozen is a dozen no matter how many fingers you have on your hands, as one of your young school friends.
I still see that you're avoiding the original question.
NossBigger 4 years ago
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Because clearly, you can't be subscribed to someone if you don't want to have sex with them. And clearly, anyone under twenty doesn't have anything to say that an adult needs to bother with.
"Age is foolish and forgetful when it underestimates youth." -- Albus Dumbledore
BlueReckless 4 years ago
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So, if I say you "might" be having relations with the 10 year old down the street, that is OK with you, then.
SSanf 4 years ago
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TMA, they don't believe for a second that Irish282 is actually a pedophile, the same MORONS who made these claims also called me a pedophile and called Geriatric1927 a pedophile, it's just one of their favorite things to call people. I do agree though that he shouldn't tell kids to turn to a private group for help, they should turn to their parents, period. Of course, minors shouldn't be on here unsupervised in the first place.
Argentium009 4 years ago
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Argent...i never called you a pedo, and i never called Geriatric a pedo....actually you're just the opposite...you like old men...by the way, that was pretty funny how you tried to hack your ED article with a perl script on a php based wiki...lol, fail
TheGhostOfSubseven 4 years ago
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Pedophilia: sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object? Strong accusation? Or a legitimate a resonable accusation when numerous signs, or red flags are present?
zen10underground 4 years ago
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perhaps the best video made on this suject yet
zen10underground 4 years ago
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Irish282 sent me a message in which he said, "YTV does not deal or care about or touch Ytask or any other public matter unless WE are ourselves are attacked." If that is so, what is the point?
zen10underground 4 years ago
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Thought you had his picture and address. Well, you have my picture and I'm not giving my address. But I will say it's not the same state you claim.
DynaCatlovesme 4 years ago
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i dont think ED believes he(irish282) is a pedophile. If they did, they should turn it over to the police.
AntaresInScorpius 4 years ago
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true....but it is quite disturbing upon closer examination to realize that by that statement, Irish has implied that he has been on instant messenger with ALL of the other young boys that were in the YTV...and it also brings up other questions like: why IM?...isn't YT email and group forums enough?...a probable answer: IM allows live video chat unlike email and forums
TheGhostOfSubseven 4 years ago
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Well, tma, I guess sometimes your pride has to be sacrificed for the truth! I am just glad that you find yourself strong enough to use whatever "filth" is necessary to bring evidence to light. Good job as always.
sivazh 4 years ago
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By stating that you think he "might" be a pedophile you add additional fuel to the fire. A lot of people respect your opinion and a lot of people view your videos. You can be sure that if you state that he "might" be a pedophile others will be certain that he is. If you have genuine concerns, you need to go to the authorities with your concerns.
SSanf 4 years ago
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Otherwise, you need to maintain the position that the truth is unknown and that everyone is entitled to the presumption of innocence until there is positive proof that they are guilty. Now, it has been impressed on everyone the themaskedanalyst harbors suspicions that UpDownMostly might be a pedophile. What are you going to do to make it up to this poor man if you are wrong? No apology will ever be enough. The damage is done.
SSanf 4 years ago
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Destroying a persons reputation is easy. Repairing it is not.
SSanf 4 years ago
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This is silly....if you saw a man with a hammer walking towards your car would you not ask him what he's doing?...would you first go to the authorities with your concerns?...if you did, do you know what they would say?...they would tell you to call them AFTER a crime has been commited...they don't stop crime, they clean up after it
TheGhostOfSubseven 4 years ago
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If I had a hammer
I'd hammer in the mornin
I'd hammer in the evenin
All over this laaand
I'd hammer out freedom
I'd hammer out a warnin
I'd hammer out the love between my brothers and my sisters
all over this laaaand
NossBigger 4 years ago