Ok , for work I must go to bed but , at first oppurtinity I would like to continue.
Yes, law must be executed, and turks are sick of thi dispute too, greeks know us as sickos but we are too got bored of it.. And I don't think there is a danger for turksh cypriots. You say of turkish immigrants, 1974-2010 how many of them are living there and what will happen to them for example ? there must be a greyzone of mentalities, otherwise we only postpone hostility.Good night for now
@vakasim Also the word nazi stands for german Nationalsozialistische, in greek we translate it ''Εθνικοσισιαλισμος'', and we've had some kind of nazism at period 1936-1941 where we defeated italians(fashism).
@vakasim Actually we didn't have fully nazism, we just got some things from it, like the hail, the dress nazis've had,the patriotism and some other things but that's all. Although we don't know what Metaksa's plan fully actually was cause he died early but the time he was in goverment,he just wanted greece to be able to resist to anyone, we were more or less neutral at war, we never supported any power at ww2 as long as he was in goverment(1936-1941)
@vakasim The reason germans attacked our country was because after metaksas died, the new president korizis wanted us to ally with england and for that he brought the english military here at greece. Then hitler who was fighting against russia, feared that we might attack with england behind them and he would lost so for that he send his army here.
1-Turks are not looking for a war against greeks either.
2-Turks and Kurds are not racial brothers but since they're muslim we have a very well chance to fix our relations and both sides are started to fond of each other more nowadays.
3-Ottomans or Seljuks not only fought against christians but also against muslims too. And they had christian or jewih subjects alive.
Finally as you see, when we talk you , Superhellenic and I could find a way to maintain peace. Goodight.
1-Well in fact greek - turkish wars were a bit inevitable, neighbours always fight at sometime in history (fra-ger,eng-fra, pol-rus , rus-ger, rus-tur...) . Turkish civilisation was rising by the time Greek (Byzantine) civilisation were declining , that is all we had .Turks lived the same against Russians.
2-Maybe %100 of Kurds are not muslims but most of them are muslims apart from turkey.
3-Yes but only since the republic (secularity named in the constition)
And about talking normally , our first posts were more harsh, dioluge brought us here. Wel let me tell you a story that will cheer you up. I was 17 when the imia crisis occured and I was like "come on if you dare " and I really wanted a war. 6 years later I served in the military in western turkey as an antiaircraft officer. I was quite mature then and asked one of the specialists what was your psyclogy in 1996 , he said "It was like greek jet will come and f.ck us".
Then I understand , by the time I wanted a war quite sincerely , the people on the front were aware of their lives' value. If a war occures eveybody does what they can for their nation , socety whtever they care.However in my opinion people would be more calm until a real - meaningful war get started
1-Greece was in chaos in 1974 , and couldn't figt , but SHOULD fight.So if we want to be kind nt a defeat but you name what it was.
2-1912 Turkish army have been defeated but fought against a crowded alliance, greeks defeated turks with nearly same amount of troops but turkey could outnumber greece if it wasn't an aliance , yet we lost.Ok.
Treaties can and sometimes must be ammended , not only for our behalf , we get something you get something, but if you defend the status que without exception.Then we will have o keep our stance , and two nation will stalemate theirselves in a narrow dress then they are. Do you know how hard was saying yes to annan plan for the young erdogan cabinet ? hey didi it , bu as I said this is a matter of choice maybe deep states lik it go on so.Who knows.
That was nonsense. Here in Turkey too , it's a joke , people say , "For 2 goats we were getting involved a war with greece". ok to come a point traditional turkish foreign policy is harh and a bit paranoid (it has its reasons too they are not onl warmongers we were about to be annihlated 100 years ago) but new turksh policiy wants to solvthse disputes.But if you only say that there are treaties which mst be executed without exception then we can not afford it
I'm not expert of international waters law, I truly don't know about thatso I won't debate, practically , it would be weird that we can not use a sea which we have long coast.
Cyprus , it was a UN plan , and as I told you it could be a good start.now turkish cypriots are not believe in your sincerety that they showed it at the last elections. By the way 1960-1974 the island (talking about both sides) weren't seem to be content with the status que .....
Of course I can't know what would happen. But we would have quite a numerical superiority, yet I don't know. And what happened is happened already, you are right. But you must adopt this point of view for the wars you lost such as 1974. Jounta betrayed or coudn't trust itself I don't know , logistically Turkey has a real advantage for a possible cypriot front.. And a toal war would cost dearly. Turkey is quite big to invade. Probably the operation ould fail.
Finally at least for this night ; Greece seems to be exist on two establishing contrary. Macedonia and urky and you can not change it.. even now , today I don't believe most of the people beleieve or epect a warwith Turkey but the traditional expression can not change , 1821 was you independence war , I understand that but it was 200 ago and we came here 1000 years ago. This hostility is not realistic anymore. At least in my opinion.
But the main thing I'm trying to say is ; If you know about Turkey after 2002 turkish state and the government have clashed on some issues which we can say traditional state policy and the people's . Cyprus poll was one of these issues both sides would show their influenc. Government won it , turkish cypriots said YES, cyprus president has changed for a more moderate politician.But you did not respond... Now nationalists won the elecetion again. I think you wanted it.
Getting out of the island is not a very big problem for turkish public nowadays. And sory to tell but turkish cypriots voted for yes to annan plan at the poll.On contrary greek cypriots voted for no. Well it was a very solid message from turkey wasn't it ? And greeks sent a mean one!!!!
About aegean, well if we count on greek islands then turks even could not swim in aegean and I'm no kidding. I've sen many of em they are close...
As I said 1974 was debatble. Turkey although couldn't fight well in 74, still managed to control a serious land in the island. Yes I know greece didn't intervene but if we say it as couldn't intervene, then is it not a defeat ? (I know the jounta whatsoever but this oes not change the result.) Well you win 2 we win 2 at wrst case then. You don't have to emphasize on 1912 I know we lost it. But admit it , (I don't deny your efforts but) if only you and us would fight , then wat
And believe me I'm not talking about excuses. 1912 had a major excuse , but excuses are weaknesses and results are important.
It was army's political sttus, the army were divided into mainly 2 parts to rule after the deposed sultan. Enver who retrieved Edirne in the second war, used that as a political issue and took the rule over with a military coup, for example. But these are not important, we lost But you lost, too in 1897,1922, 1974 (debatable but have solid arguments)
Mehmet Ali formed a navy !!!! Our army in 1912 fought terribly bad and we lost and lost to all of our opponents yet you miss te point. We were overhelmed at that war , if you think it's xuse , no , not for the whole 1912-13 war but we are talkin about a 1 on 1 batlle and we have more manpower than you it'is as exact information as we lost 1912-13 war. In 1922 war we've been assisted by them yet you've been assisted by britain . And we were just a wreck at the time.
I looked at your profile , soldier 26 , a master sergeant or a first lietunant you must be then. I used to serve in aegean as a substitute officer in 2002 , the young jimakisspd is wrong , we are not afraid of you don't think that detrmined attack from you will be a shock for us, no, we are ready and we are also determined .Next war?? it'll start only if you make it start . 'cos turks don't feel aggressive abut you. But we're aware of your hate. We are awake.
Yes, sultan did it , that's because our navy was burned. But not by you. About 1912 and in your words we had 84-90.000 and you (only???) have 80.000 troops and that does not change what I say , we fought against 4-5 nation so could not made you overhelmed we could briefy be 180-250.000 troops against you and you could not win then. 10 years later we defeated you , when we fought 1 on 1 (if we talk about military equipment asistance then I should remind you britain's help)
Our excuse is to behave foolish at the time like yours :)))).
But if you want a true excuse, in 1821 our navy was burned by eurepean great powers, and in 1912 we fought against 4-5 nations. Now are you happy ? We are far too stronger fo ypu.End of the story.
you gayreeks has excuse for your every lost!you came to turkish hell and stayed very short.we have fucked you very bad.izmir gulf painted wine red of greek blood.we have chopped you like pigs.you lost constantinapoli you say jews opened doors,we have fucked you in izmir you say our mistake,you lost cyprus you say english helped,you lost imia you say they didnt let us fight.how many losts do you need to admit that turks are stronger than you?when you lost athens?
@tourkosfuktme you fucken shit colored diaper heads are JUST Jealous Cause the whole world loves Greece . Turkey is only known for Genocides , having 50 children per woman ,
and making area rugs . that's Turkey the cockroaches of planet earth .
you never left your room in 2 years DENIZ ! stop pretending you are a fighter .
Don't be upset , because no one care is you are glujilkistan or arzikistan
@tourkosfuktme Macedonians are actually thieves(your brothers probably),albanians are monghols like u,we don't care what u think,germans play the game of USA,jew suck(too pity hitler didn't kill them),persians like us now,asyrians love us,italians depends,north italians are barbarians so no,but south ones are descendants of romans so they do,and americans are actually one withJews(suckers).
You're known as goat f.ckers in the world and noone caes you , I don't say they care us but you're worse.'Cos at least among your neighbours, they would like 3 countries Turkey, Russia, Germany , not you.Truth hurts.
@vakasim LOL, russia likes u??HAHAHAHAHAHA, and germany?? ROOOOOOFL
Russia supported ya once cause there were the communists,but they exist no more,and germans hate you more than anything,also hitler had admitted that the ancestors of arian race were ancient greeks.
I said; YOUR NEIGHBOURS love Turkey (if they are muslim), Russia (if they are orthodox) and Grmany (if they are old austrohungary nations) . First understand what I say .
Don't call any nation which survived until now, as weak. Listen , greeks achieved many beautiful things and may be brave people however the thing I'm trying to say is, your neighbours are attracked by diffeent regional powers and your population is about 10 million. You can not dominate your region.It's imposible. And a Turkish-Greek war is not in sight and I don't think it will for a long while. I know it's hard to accept for a 17 years old enthuiastic young man but tht is true.
@vakasim fyromians just recieved a lot of support(mostly by jews),it's a pseudocountry just to take macedonia from us. And yes maybe you are right about the fact that they are attracted by great regional powers,but these powers care about themselves and not about these ''neighbours''. Maybe it's hard to dominate our region right now,but not impossible. Also we aren't looking into greece-turkey war either.
By the way about arian race. Hey am I talking to a neonazi ?? If I were you I would be proud of plato , socrates, aristo or parthenon etc.Not being a part of arian race.
@vakasim That's what I actually am for. Ancient greeks(plato,aristotles etc included which means my ancestors) were the first of arian(white) race. And were first to make culture in this world,that's why I am proud to be what I am, also even hitler had admitted that the first arian race were us, also do you think hitler had discovered nazism?? Nazism is an ancient political view,and the symbol of nazi you can even see it at parthenon, the true name is ''Menandros''
Symbol is old but meaning is different. Nazism is a completely diffferent political way uses the same symbol , please , these are diferent.Besides , to invent nazism is not very glorious thing. It was highly restricting and collectivist regime and was definitely racist.
@vakasim Yeah I know,but what I mean to say is,hitler always admired us and he admittted many times that were the first of arian race, he copied too many things he found from ancient years from us like: The symbol,the hail,some ideology(not racism though) and based on them he created nazism.
@tourkosfuktme I decided to say those that actually like u,to finish faster. Albanians,monkeydonians and probably Jews.(and those actually because they care about themselves not about u), the whole rest earth dislikes u. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
One sentence about the video.Here the guy says you coudn't dare to attack turkey at the tiime of kardak (imla) dispute.And says something tat two of you could defeat us blah blh, 1 question , why you all beloved and mighty greece why couldn't you declare war on us then ?
Stop talking. You are not our league, yet we changed a lot we don't care you we are lookng for a great economy and peaceful country includs kurds.You unfortunately have to find a new establisher contorversy.
@vakasim Imia,otzalan and everything and the fact that we are not going on war is because we got some traitor politicians sent by your american boyfriends to protect you,cause if it wasn't for them you would be our serveants.
HAHAHAHAHA yeah sure,a monghol talks about peace, kurds hate you and they will hate you forever. Like we do, but still you don't have traitor politicians so why don't u attack since u say you are stronger?? Anser: Cause u are chickens.
Kurds and Turks once fought side by side against an enemy once that does not exist, now (guess who). And in turkey a slow but huge movement started about kurds , they will have all the rights they deserve and they deserve much.
About war , it's not going to happen 'cos we are chicken, yes know it so , no problem for us, at least for me. But ask this question to yourself ; In order to make us servants are you individually ready to defeat 7 men equipped with similiar guns with you?
@vakasim Kurds were amany races that lived since ancient years,noone had managed to defeat them(except great alexander) at ancient times. But then they still resisted to romans when they came for a while but in the end they got conquered as well,kurds've had many religions, many of them were christians as well and lived at kapadocia,until you came and made them muslims,and many christians kurds you killed them.
About Kurds , they were settld in Anatolia befor us. But don't miss it , we came here becuse we had to , it was a push westwards and people were escaping from each other. About the religion of kuds, well greeks were polytheist and turks were shamanistic, and a tribal life was being lived, there were many kurds , turks or danaos , right ? To summarize , modern turkish and kurdish tribes were muslim and til nationalism we were quite fond of each other. And we will be , too.
@vakasim Even if the good politicians here(nationalistes) come,a greece-turkey war is the last thing we are looking for,what we want first is: executing or getting the traitor politicians to prison, paying our debts and fixing the problems the previous politicians caused or others that failed to.
@vakasim Well if you remember well as ottomans you came here much later,at about 12th century AC,and kurds lived in anatolia since ancient years, they believed in many different religions. Maybe most kurds today are muslims but they still got different religions and some might be christians. Also you are not brothers with kurds,just remember how many you killed when u arrived at kapadocia to make them muslims.
@vakasim Well we don't have problem with defeating you(if u don't get support from americans of course), we were the first who defeated italians at world war 2 so if u are alone you won't be much of a problem.
Yeah you've defeated italians , bravo , Turks stopped napeleon ad acre but napeleon is napeleon and germany has invaded greece.very nation has its peaks and bright moment in their history.That doesn't mean it will continue forever .Alexander was great but romans ruled greece for centuries, byzantine was great but ottomans finished it, ottomans were great but west finished it, so goes on. Are you really serious that you think you can defeat us very confortably ? What do we lack ???
heyt ula biz yedi devlet silahsiz ezdik gectik insan konusurke bosa konusmamali . ulan bu rumlar cok aptal apo onlara akil veriyor bizim gibi savasirsan kaybetmesiniz herzaman pkk alsin butun askerini yunanistana gitsin turkiyeyle savasin kackun dayanir bunu herkez biliyor
@tourkosfuktme what i can say aboyt tyrks ??? is a trade from monggolia who came here becauce they haven't got food and culture ..they steal everything for us and the most important the y didn't fight like men but like women with arrows oxaoxaoxa
This creature with his no brain trying to give Greeks some hateful ideas like attacking to Tiurkey. He doesn't promote peace but he wants war between our nations.And he also adds that he cares about Turkish nation:)))
His nose would be reaching up to sky if he was Pinocchia
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU TURKGAY. Don't pretend that we are friends. Greeks hate you and the moment that the Kurd rebellion will rise, WE WILL BE THERE TO FUCK YOU GYPSY ANIMALS. Promise from us to you, OROSPU
@patryn07 STFU,u are the turkgays.Back at 1920 we nearly conquered ya,and 3 great powers like russia,france and italia supported you to get our knives off ur necks. U are the gays,u always attack us when u just get the chance.for example:At cyprus or at smyrna u attacked when we've had political problems,same with constantinople.
you were english stray dogs in1920's.they have affraid to come to turkey ufter gallipoli war.and they have send you to turkish hell.you were so stupid and enter turkey.you were marching and shouting''to ankara,to ankara''
but the last time we saw you you were running like rabbits and shout ''to athens to athens''ha ha ha ha .but when we catch you malakes in smyrna we have chopped you all like pigs.they say the whole smyrna bay turned to wine red out of greek blood.
ben SENINKI GIBI SEREFINI SIKTIGIMIN ERMENI TOHUMU DEGILIM ALLAHIN KIROSU BEN OSMANLININ TORUNUYUM BACISINI SIKTIGIM SENIN GIBI HAINLERIN NEYI VAR YARRAGIMIN KAFALARI DAGDA BIRBIRINIZI SIKIN GEZIN MAHLUKATLAR SIZI ORUSBUNUN PICLERI GÖTÜNÜZ SIKIYORSA KAHRAMANLARIN KARSISINA CIKTA GÖTÜNÜ GÖRÜYÜM ANANI BIR SIKIP PARCALASINLAR INT: ÖTMEKLE OLMUYOR PIC KURUSU SENIN GIBI ERMENI SEREFSIZLERI BENZIN DÖKÜP YAKMAK LAZIM --:)ÖLÜNÜZÜ ,DIRINIZI SIKIYIM SIZIN HAINLER -DTP VE PKKLIYA ÖLÜM
Korlerle sagirlar birbirini agirlar ... kurdun kotusuyle , yunanin pici birliktelik ariyorlar ... Birlik olamazlar ya ... Dusmanimin dusmani benim dostumdur tezi ile hareket eden iki salak ve destekcileri ..
en gucsuz zamanimizda ingiltere fransa avustralya basta olmak uzere 7 ulke adim bile atamamis apo pici daha ne konuscagini bilmiyor zamaninda irak sinirindan sizi almasaydik saddam ananizi sikecekti biz yunanistanla tarih boyunca girdigimiz 7 savasida kazandik yunanistanda savas olsa aksam savasa gideriz sabah atinada kahvalti yabariz .soz konusu vatan olunca cok analar sikioz kurtler uyanik olun ananiz bi kalip rum sabununa gider
insanin dusmanida mert olmali bu dummukden dusman dahi olmaz uyduruk kaydirik bokdan bir ulke kuracagim hayali ile yalamadigi yarrak kalmamis picin yunanin arabin yakalandigindada bizim kini yaladi pic buna onder diyip pesinden yuruyenin aklini beynini sikeyim avradini sikdigim dangalaklari bu pice uyupda birlikde yasadiginiz insanlara dusman olmayin beyinsiz maymunlar
350000 ellines pontioi sfagiasmenoi kai apla anagnoriszo to la8os?Oxi file.Emeis oi pontioi gnorizoume kalytera giati ayto den anaferete bebaia stin istoria.aytoi mas sfaxane.Esy an tous sygxoreis emeis pote.Tis katares ton papoudon mas plironoun.Kourdoi kai Tourkoi skylia kai oi dyo.Karkino se olous sas
Simfono apolyta! Afti itan mazi me tous tourkous. Kana istoriko lathos ke to plironoun simera. Ala ine o Exthros tou exthrou ke etsi kali gia mas. Enooite afta pou lei o apo ine apolytes wlakies. Den boroun afti na mas boithisoun se tipota...
eixa na sou fero paradigmata, alla ksereis kati, apofasisa na min sou apantiso, dioti pisteyo, oti me ayto pou grafis, prosbaleis prota apo ola, tin noimosini sou..
edo h ellada den exei paidia.. den mporese na ensoomatosi mia xoufta anthropon (skopia) pou exoume koini thriskia. k esy milas gia kourdous?
ayto pou leeo ego einai poly mprosta k an fenete trelo se merikous fantasou afto pou lees esi..epidei den exeis doulepsi me alodapo sigoura, kane mia makgia pigene psakse giati kaneis pia den empisteyete kourdo, bres enan mastora na exei kourdo k doulepse na deis ti mounopana einai, exoun maxerosi sti douleia pano enan mpogiatzi akousa mia fora..
What the hell are u talking about girl. Do you really know the history of kurd and what turks have done with kurds. Don't come here and say that WE should be grateful to Turkey. U don't have knowledges about the kurds and wha king of country Turkey is. Go ask your father about that. Maybe your father are one of those that are working for the turkish regime. I'm sure that he is one of this traitors.
Second. Answer me. Turks can learn their own language in german schools, but we can not learn kurdish in turkish schools. And only state channels (TRT) can broadcast kurdish. Kurds can not broadcast kurdish in Turkey. Because of that there are not any kurdish Channel or Radio without TRT in Turkey.
İt is a lie. PKK does not kill kurds, turkish secret service (Jitem) kills innocent kurds. For example İzzettin Yıldırım, Musa Anter, Savaş Buldan and many others innocent kurds are slained by turkish secret service...
Answer me, is there any kurdish tv or radio in Turkey? Why has fascist turkish regime burned many kurdish villages? Turkey is a fascist country and we kurds fight for our rıghts, for our honor.
@krimanc Dear friend... there is TRT 6 in turkey.. is a NATIONAL channel with money from state that ALL shows is in KURDISH!! .. . You're not kurt at all , you're a simple shit..... Second There is alot kurdish radios, specially in istanbul
My greek friends, TurkishRose lies. He is not kurdish. And many kurds supports Öcalan. And all kurds are ready to fight against fascist turkish regime for democracy.
Helal olsun Öcalana iyi sikti fasistleri. Gercekten saygim var. I mean my greek friends Öcalan is a very brave man. He fights for democracy, for freedom in Turkey. He is not a racist or kurdish nationalist. He does not hate anybody but turkish regime hates kurds. Öcalan türk rejimi gibi irkci veya fasist degildir.
Gazeteci Türkiye yle Yunanistan savaşırsa Kürtlerin hangi tarafta yer alacağını soruyor,it apo da doğudan ve batıdan Türkiye nin sıkıştırılarak tarihin en hayırlı sonucunun alınacağını söylüyor.. Bu kürtler boynumuzdaki yılan sokmak için fırsat kolluyorlar,bu eşşekçe hoşgörümüz,yöneticilerin ihaneti birgün felaketimiz olacak,uyanın Türkler...
He is a part of Turkish system....for control the Kurdish partizans....
lefkaros1 1 month ago
Free Kurdistan Fuck Turkgay
linakurdish 2 months ago
pagale eisai praktoras tis CIA.edwses ta imia,edwses ton otsalan,prodwses ti patrida sou..TO MOUNI TIS MANAS SOU xodre
lionheart99917 4 months ago
He is ugly Viva turchia
MultiManZone 4 months ago
σκατοψυχε παγκαλε που εστειλες στην φυλακη αυτον τον ηγετη
kkekne1 5 months ago 3
he speaks Turkish.. no comment :)
brakisefalp 8 months ago
Why he speaks Turkish , if he is a Kurdish leader? actually he trys to speak Turkish :) eee mmm ee ııı like litle children :)
eniser 10 months ago
ORUSPU COCUGU APO BIRDE TURKCE KONUSUYOR NASIL KURDISTAN KURACAKSA
cccnemutluturkumccc 1 year ago
@SuperHellenic7
Ok , for work I must go to bed but , at first oppurtinity I would like to continue.
Yes, law must be executed, and turks are sick of thi dispute too, greeks know us as sickos but we are too got bored of it.. And I don't think there is a danger for turksh cypriots. You say of turkish immigrants, 1974-2010 how many of them are living there and what will happen to them for example ? there must be a greyzone of mentalities, otherwise we only postpone hostility.Good night for now
vakasim 1 year ago
@vakasim Also the word nazi stands for german Nationalsozialistische, in greek we translate it ''Εθνικοσισιαλισμος'', and we've had some kind of nazism at period 1936-1941 where we defeated italians(fashism).
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@jimakisspd
So why your opolitical regime , invaded your country then ? Or why were you not get involved the war with germany. I don't think metaksas was nazi.
vakasim 1 year ago
@vakasim Actually we didn't have fully nazism, we just got some things from it, like the hail, the dress nazis've had,the patriotism and some other things but that's all. Although we don't know what Metaksa's plan fully actually was cause he died early but the time he was in goverment,he just wanted greece to be able to resist to anyone, we were more or less neutral at war, we never supported any power at ww2 as long as he was in goverment(1936-1941)
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@vakasim The reason germans attacked our country was because after metaksas died, the new president korizis wanted us to ally with england and for that he brought the english military here at greece. Then hitler who was fighting against russia, feared that we might attack with england behind them and he would lost so for that he send his army here.
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@jimakisspd
1-Turks are not looking for a war against greeks either.
2-Turks and Kurds are not racial brothers but since they're muslim we have a very well chance to fix our relations and both sides are started to fond of each other more nowadays.
3-Ottomans or Seljuks not only fought against christians but also against muslims too. And they had christian or jewih subjects alive.
Finally as you see, when we talk you , Superhellenic and I could find a way to maintain peace. Goodight.
vakasim 1 year ago
@vakasim 1- Well just remember who started all greece-turkey wars.
2- As I said they are not fully muslims and even if they go independant we are not 100% sure they will be muslims.
3- Yes, also I think that although you are not recognised as islamic country by arabs.
Indeed I am surprised there is a turk that I can actually talk and argue normally, most turks just reply with just ''Fuck off greek,turkey fucks you''
Probably you might be more educated.
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@jimakisspd
1-Well in fact greek - turkish wars were a bit inevitable, neighbours always fight at sometime in history (fra-ger,eng-fra, pol-rus , rus-ger, rus-tur...) . Turkish civilisation was rising by the time Greek (Byzantine) civilisation were declining , that is all we had .Turks lived the same against Russians.
2-Maybe %100 of Kurds are not muslims but most of them are muslims apart from turkey.
3-Yes but only since the republic (secularity named in the constition)
vakasim 1 year ago
@jimakisspd
And about talking normally , our first posts were more harsh, dioluge brought us here. Wel let me tell you a story that will cheer you up. I was 17 when the imia crisis occured and I was like "come on if you dare " and I really wanted a war. 6 years later I served in the military in western turkey as an antiaircraft officer. I was quite mature then and asked one of the specialists what was your psyclogy in 1996 , he said "It was like greek jet will come and f.ck us".
vakasim 1 year ago
@jimakisspd
Then I understand , by the time I wanted a war quite sincerely , the people on the front were aware of their lives' value. If a war occures eveybody does what they can for their nation , socety whtever they care.However in my opinion people would be more calm until a real - meaningful war get started
Goodnight
vakasim 1 year ago
@SuperHellenic7
They are not they said yes , greks said no. Withdrawing the troops turkey must see a response , isn't that right ?
vakasim 1 year ago
@SuperHellenic7
Well in fact subject changed but about the war.
1-Greece was in chaos in 1974 , and couldn't figt , but SHOULD fight.So if we want to be kind nt a defeat but you name what it was.
2-1912 Turkish army have been defeated but fought against a crowded alliance, greeks defeated turks with nearly same amount of troops but turkey could outnumber greece if it wasn't an aliance , yet we lost.Ok.
vakasim 1 year ago
@SuperHellenic7
Treaties can and sometimes must be ammended , not only for our behalf , we get something you get something, but if you defend the status que without exception.Then we will have o keep our stance , and two nation will stalemate theirselves in a narrow dress then they are. Do you know how hard was saying yes to annan plan for the young erdogan cabinet ? hey didi it , bu as I said this is a matter of choice maybe deep states lik it go on so.Who knows.
vakasim 1 year ago
@SuperHellenic7
That was nonsense. Here in Turkey too , it's a joke , people say , "For 2 goats we were getting involved a war with greece". ok to come a point traditional turkish foreign policy is harh and a bit paranoid (it has its reasons too they are not onl warmongers we were about to be annihlated 100 years ago) but new turksh policiy wants to solvthse disputes.But if you only say that there are treaties which mst be executed without exception then we can not afford it
vakasim 1 year ago
@SuperHellenic7
I'm not expert of international waters law, I truly don't know about thatso I won't debate, practically , it would be weird that we can not use a sea which we have long coast.
Cyprus , it was a UN plan , and as I told you it could be a good start.now turkish cypriots are not believe in your sincerety that they showed it at the last elections. By the way 1960-1974 the island (talking about both sides) weren't seem to be content with the status que .....
vakasim 1 year ago
@SuperHellenic7
Of course I can't know what would happen. But we would have quite a numerical superiority, yet I don't know. And what happened is happened already, you are right. But you must adopt this point of view for the wars you lost such as 1974. Jounta betrayed or coudn't trust itself I don't know , logistically Turkey has a real advantage for a possible cypriot front.. And a toal war would cost dearly. Turkey is quite big to invade. Probably the operation ould fail.
vakasim 1 year ago
@SuperHellenic7
Finally at least for this night ; Greece seems to be exist on two establishing contrary. Macedonia and urky and you can not change it.. even now , today I don't believe most of the people beleieve or epect a warwith Turkey but the traditional expression can not change , 1821 was you independence war , I understand that but it was 200 ago and we came here 1000 years ago. This hostility is not realistic anymore. At least in my opinion.
vakasim 1 year ago
@SuperHellenic7
But the main thing I'm trying to say is ; If you know about Turkey after 2002 turkish state and the government have clashed on some issues which we can say traditional state policy and the people's . Cyprus poll was one of these issues both sides would show their influenc. Government won it , turkish cypriots said YES, cyprus president has changed for a more moderate politician.But you did not respond... Now nationalists won the elecetion again. I think you wanted it.
vakasim 1 year ago
Getting out of the island is not a very big problem for turkish public nowadays. And sory to tell but turkish cypriots voted for yes to annan plan at the poll.On contrary greek cypriots voted for no. Well it was a very solid message from turkey wasn't it ? And greeks sent a mean one!!!!
About aegean, well if we count on greek islands then turks even could not swim in aegean and I'm no kidding. I've sen many of em they are close...
vakasim 1 year ago
@SuperHellenic7
As I said 1974 was debatble. Turkey although couldn't fight well in 74, still managed to control a serious land in the island. Yes I know greece didn't intervene but if we say it as couldn't intervene, then is it not a defeat ? (I know the jounta whatsoever but this oes not change the result.) Well you win 2 we win 2 at wrst case then. You don't have to emphasize on 1912 I know we lost it. But admit it , (I don't deny your efforts but) if only you and us would fight , then wat
vakasim 1 year ago
@SuperHellenic7
And believe me I'm not talking about excuses. 1912 had a major excuse , but excuses are weaknesses and results are important.
It was army's political sttus, the army were divided into mainly 2 parts to rule after the deposed sultan. Enver who retrieved Edirne in the second war, used that as a political issue and took the rule over with a military coup, for example. But these are not important, we lost But you lost, too in 1897,1922, 1974 (debatable but have solid arguments)
vakasim 1 year ago
@SuperHellenic7
Mehmet Ali formed a navy !!!! Our army in 1912 fought terribly bad and we lost and lost to all of our opponents yet you miss te point. We were overhelmed at that war , if you think it's xuse , no , not for the whole 1912-13 war but we are talkin about a 1 on 1 batlle and we have more manpower than you it'is as exact information as we lost 1912-13 war. In 1922 war we've been assisted by them yet you've been assisted by britain . And we were just a wreck at the time.
vakasim 1 year ago
@SuperHellenic7
I looked at your profile , soldier 26 , a master sergeant or a first lietunant you must be then. I used to serve in aegean as a substitute officer in 2002 , the young jimakisspd is wrong , we are not afraid of you don't think that detrmined attack from you will be a shock for us, no, we are ready and we are also determined .Next war?? it'll start only if you make it start . 'cos turks don't feel aggressive abut you. But we're aware of your hate. We are awake.
vakasim 1 year ago
@SuperHellenic7
Yes, sultan did it , that's because our navy was burned. But not by you. About 1912 and in your words we had 84-90.000 and you (only???) have 80.000 troops and that does not change what I say , we fought against 4-5 nation so could not made you overhelmed we could briefy be 180-250.000 troops against you and you could not win then. 10 years later we defeated you , when we fought 1 on 1 (if we talk about military equipment asistance then I should remind you britain's help)
vakasim 1 year ago
@SuperHellenic7
Our excuse is to behave foolish at the time like yours :)))).
But if you want a true excuse, in 1821 our navy was burned by eurepean great powers, and in 1912 we fought against 4-5 nations. Now are you happy ? We are far too stronger fo ypu.End of the story.
vakasim 1 year ago
ΝΤΡΟΠΗ ΣΕ ΟΛΟΥΣ ΜΑΣ ΓΙΑ ΤΗΝ ΠΡΟΔΟΣΙΑ ΣΤΟΝ ΚΟΥΡΔΙΚΟ ΛΑΟ.. ΚΑΚΟΣ ΨΟΦΟΣ ΣΤΟΝ ΣΗΜΙΤΗ ΤΟΝ ΑΝΘΕΛΛΗΝΑ ΑΜΕΡΙΚΑΝΟ..
Sexomaniakos4ever 1 year ago
@SuperHellenic7
ha ha ha
you gayreeks has excuse for your every lost!you came to turkish hell and stayed very short.we have fucked you very bad.izmir gulf painted wine red of greek blood.we have chopped you like pigs.you lost constantinapoli you say jews opened doors,we have fucked you in izmir you say our mistake,you lost cyprus you say english helped,you lost imia you say they didnt let us fight.how many losts do you need to admit that turks are stronger than you?when you lost athens?
tourkosfuktme 1 year ago
@tourkosfuktme why dont you attack on us?
Sexomaniakos4ever 1 year ago
@tourkosfuktme you fucken shit colored diaper heads are JUST Jealous Cause the whole world loves Greece . Turkey is only known for Genocides , having 50 children per woman ,
and making area rugs . that's Turkey the cockroaches of planet earth .
you never left your room in 2 years DENIZ ! stop pretending you are a fighter .
Don't be upset , because no one care is you are glujilkistan or arzikistan
NO One Cares !
FYROMINJA 1 year ago
@FYROMINJA
whole world loves greece?ha ha ha.
macedonians,albanians,kosovans,turks,germans,jew,persians,azeries,italians,americans?get a life.maybe ethiopians.ha ha ha.
tourkosfuktme 1 year ago
@tourkosfuktme LOLski ,,, no one cares about TURGEY !
face it you are famouse for genocides and area rugs .
ohh and men having sex with olive oil .
you are Darker the the Ethiopians . and smell like shit .
FYROMINJA 1 year ago
Alexander and Achillies were gays too. If you are so uncomfortale with our oil wrestling.
vakasim 1 year ago
@tourkosfuktme Macedonians are actually thieves(your brothers probably),albanians are monghols like u,we don't care what u think,germans play the game of USA,jew suck(too pity hitler didn't kill them),persians like us now,asyrians love us,italians depends,north italians are barbarians so no,but south ones are descendants of romans so they do,and americans are actually one withJews(suckers).
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@jimakisspd
You're known as goat f.ckers in the world and noone caes you , I don't say they care us but you're worse.'Cos at least among your neighbours, they would like 3 countries Turkey, Russia, Germany , not you.Truth hurts.
vakasim 1 year ago
@vakasim LOL, russia likes u??HAHAHAHAHAHA, and germany?? ROOOOOOFL
Russia supported ya once cause there were the communists,but they exist no more,and germans hate you more than anything,also hitler had admitted that the ancestors of arian race were ancient greeks.
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@jimakisspd ,
I said; YOUR NEIGHBOURS love Turkey (if they are muslim), Russia (if they are orthodox) and Grmany (if they are old austrohungary nations) . First understand what I say .
vakasim 1 year ago
@vakasim Well if you mean albanians,fyromians and such probably,but that means what to us?? They are our enemies too anyway and they are pretty weak.
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@jimakisspd
Don't call any nation which survived until now, as weak. Listen , greeks achieved many beautiful things and may be brave people however the thing I'm trying to say is, your neighbours are attracked by diffeent regional powers and your population is about 10 million. You can not dominate your region.It's imposible. And a Turkish-Greek war is not in sight and I don't think it will for a long while. I know it's hard to accept for a 17 years old enthuiastic young man but tht is true.
vakasim 1 year ago
@vakasim fyromians just recieved a lot of support(mostly by jews),it's a pseudocountry just to take macedonia from us. And yes maybe you are right about the fact that they are attracted by great regional powers,but these powers care about themselves and not about these ''neighbours''. Maybe it's hard to dominate our region right now,but not impossible. Also we aren't looking into greece-turkey war either.
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@jimakisspd
By the way about arian race. Hey am I talking to a neonazi ?? If I were you I would be proud of plato , socrates, aristo or parthenon etc.Not being a part of arian race.
vakasim 1 year ago
@vakasim That's what I actually am for. Ancient greeks(plato,aristotles etc included which means my ancestors) were the first of arian(white) race. And were first to make culture in this world,that's why I am proud to be what I am, also even hitler had admitted that the first arian race were us, also do you think hitler had discovered nazism?? Nazism is an ancient political view,and the symbol of nazi you can even see it at parthenon, the true name is ''Menandros''
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@jimakisspd
Symbol is old but meaning is different. Nazism is a completely diffferent political way uses the same symbol , please , these are diferent.Besides , to invent nazism is not very glorious thing. It was highly restricting and collectivist regime and was definitely racist.
vakasim 1 year ago
@vakasim Yeah I know,but what I mean to say is,hitler always admired us and he admittted many times that were the first of arian race, he copied too many things he found from ancient years from us like: The symbol,the hail,some ideology(not racism though) and based on them he created nazism.
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@tourkosfuktme Also let's count those who dislike turkey. Hmm,should I actually say those that like u to finish faster???
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@tourkosfuktme I decided to say those that actually like u,to finish faster. Albanians,monkeydonians and probably Jews.(and those actually because they care about themselves not about u), the whole rest earth dislikes u. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@jimakisspd
One sentence about the video.Here the guy says you coudn't dare to attack turkey at the tiime of kardak (imla) dispute.And says something tat two of you could defeat us blah blh, 1 question , why you all beloved and mighty greece why couldn't you declare war on us then ?
Stop talking. You are not our league, yet we changed a lot we don't care you we are lookng for a great economy and peaceful country includs kurds.You unfortunately have to find a new establisher contorversy.
vakasim 1 year ago
@vakasim Imia,otzalan and everything and the fact that we are not going on war is because we got some traitor politicians sent by your american boyfriends to protect you,cause if it wasn't for them you would be our serveants.
HAHAHAHAHA yeah sure,a monghol talks about peace, kurds hate you and they will hate you forever. Like we do, but still you don't have traitor politicians so why don't u attack since u say you are stronger?? Anser: Cause u are chickens.
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@jimakisspd
Kurds and Turks once fought side by side against an enemy once that does not exist, now (guess who). And in turkey a slow but huge movement started about kurds , they will have all the rights they deserve and they deserve much.
About war , it's not going to happen 'cos we are chicken, yes know it so , no problem for us, at least for me. But ask this question to yourself ; In order to make us servants are you individually ready to defeat 7 men equipped with similiar guns with you?
vakasim 1 year ago
@vakasim Kurds were amany races that lived since ancient years,noone had managed to defeat them(except great alexander) at ancient times. But then they still resisted to romans when they came for a while but in the end they got conquered as well,kurds've had many religions, many of them were christians as well and lived at kapadocia,until you came and made them muslims,and many christians kurds you killed them.
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@jimakisspd
About Kurds , they were settld in Anatolia befor us. But don't miss it , we came here becuse we had to , it was a push westwards and people were escaping from each other. About the religion of kuds, well greeks were polytheist and turks were shamanistic, and a tribal life was being lived, there were many kurds , turks or danaos , right ? To summarize , modern turkish and kurdish tribes were muslim and til nationalism we were quite fond of each other. And we will be , too.
vakasim 1 year ago
@vakasim Even if the good politicians here(nationalistes) come,a greece-turkey war is the last thing we are looking for,what we want first is: executing or getting the traitor politicians to prison, paying our debts and fixing the problems the previous politicians caused or others that failed to.
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@vakasim Well if you remember well as ottomans you came here much later,at about 12th century AC,and kurds lived in anatolia since ancient years, they believed in many different religions. Maybe most kurds today are muslims but they still got different religions and some might be christians. Also you are not brothers with kurds,just remember how many you killed when u arrived at kapadocia to make them muslims.
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@vakasim Well we don't have problem with defeating you(if u don't get support from americans of course), we were the first who defeated italians at world war 2 so if u are alone you won't be much of a problem.
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@jimakisspd
Yeah you've defeated italians , bravo , Turks stopped napeleon ad acre but napeleon is napeleon and germany has invaded greece.very nation has its peaks and bright moment in their history.That doesn't mean it will continue forever .Alexander was great but romans ruled greece for centuries, byzantine was great but ottomans finished it, ottomans were great but west finished it, so goes on. Are you really serious that you think you can defeat us very confortably ? What do we lack ???
vakasim 1 year ago
@vakasim I only have to reply 1 thing in this. ''History is always repeated''
jimakisspd 1 year ago
heyt ula biz yedi devlet silahsiz ezdik gectik insan konusurke bosa konusmamali . ulan bu rumlar cok aptal apo onlara akil veriyor bizim gibi savasirsan kaybetmesiniz herzaman pkk alsin butun askerini yunanistana gitsin turkiyeyle savasin kackun dayanir bunu herkez biliyor
61bulent 1 year ago
ΘΕΛΩ ΝΑ ΠΑΘΕΙ ΚΑΡΚΙΝΟ ΤΟ ΜΟΥΝΙ ΤΗΣ ΜΑΝΑΣ ΤΟΥ ΚΑΘΕ ΕΛΛΗΝΑ ΠΟΥ ΨΗΦΙΖΕΙ ΝΔ-ΠΑΣΟΚ-ΚΚΕ
velanidisGR 1 year ago
there no such a think as kurdistan.
ahiskarussian 1 year ago
Otsalan ismi de iyi uymus ota ...
CZenMania 1 year ago 3
@CZenMania could you please translate it?:)
a6160 2 months ago
INDEPENDENT KURDISTAN !!!
FOITITESOIKONOMIKON 1 year ago
cyprus ,anatolia,minora sia,constantinapoli,smyrna is pure turkish.maybe athens will be turk in the future.
tourkosfuktme 2 years ago
@tourkosfuktme STFU UP TURKGAY.The time is coming where the whole turkey will be controlled by greeks,kurds and armenians.You are just hopeless.
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@jimakisspd
everytime you attack you lost land.
anatolia,constantinapoli,smyrna,thrace,minor asia,cyprus and the last is imia.
turks has fucked greek gay commandos.
our time has come please attack.we want creete this time :))))
tourkosfuktme 1 year ago
@tourkosfuktme what i can say aboyt tyrks ??? is a trade from monggolia who came here becauce they haven't got food and culture ..they steal everything for us and the most important the y didn't fight like men but like women with arrows oxaoxaoxa
foris1967 1 year ago
öcalan's ass belongs to us.
if we want we pet it
if we want we fuck it.
when turkish commandos catch him
he cried and said
''i do anything for turkey.i love turkey and turks.please do not kill me use me.
uwwaaa uwwaaaa''
ha ha ha ha .
tourkosfuktme 2 years ago
Long live Ocalan my great leader, his word is my command. Her bijî Serok Apo!
KurdishNationalist 2 years ago
Long live free Kurdistan!!!
polemarhos 2 years ago
Should be an english translation...it's a crime that I don't get to read how some people wanna kick turkish asses. Why should I suffer like this??
TsarSamuil 2 years ago
btw this is Turkish.
he is not even Kurdish :)
Onyl people can do it who has a Turkish blood againist to us :)
dontfeelpain 2 years ago
ΠΡΟΔΟΤΗ ΣΙΜΗΤΗ ΣΟΥ ΓΑΜΩ ΤΟ ΣΠΙΤΙ
KALATHENOS 2 years ago 14
hahahhahahah
prisonson 2 years ago
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ahhhhh ahhhhhhhh
arcadian33333 2 years ago
"Where is that Shit he all most Died .....Fuck his Face three times For ever Mather Fucker and Greece...."
ahiskali0 2 years ago
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canimulkem 2 years ago
This creature with his no brain trying to give Greeks some hateful ideas like attacking to Tiurkey. He doesn't promote peace but he wants war between our nations.And he also adds that he cares about Turkish nation:)))
His nose would be reaching up to sky if he was Pinocchia
canimulkem 2 years ago 2
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU TURKGAY. Don't pretend that we are friends. Greeks hate you and the moment that the Kurd rebellion will rise, WE WILL BE THERE TO FUCK YOU GYPSY ANIMALS. Promise from us to you, OROSPU
Hellenicum 2 years ago
you can only go against Turks when there is someone to help you. when u do something do it alone. NOT WİTH HELP FROM kurdish shits. u GAYREEKS!!!!
patryn07 2 years ago
@patryn07 STFU,u are the turkgays.Back at 1920 we nearly conquered ya,and 3 great powers like russia,france and italia supported you to get our knives off ur necks. U are the gays,u always attack us when u just get the chance.for example:At cyprus or at smyrna u attacked when we've had political problems,same with constantinople.
So shut it turkgay!!!
jimakisspd 1 year ago
@jimakisspd
you were english stray dogs in1920's.they have affraid to come to turkey ufter gallipoli war.and they have send you to turkish hell.you were so stupid and enter turkey.you were marching and shouting''to ankara,to ankara''
but the last time we saw you you were running like rabbits and shout ''to athens to athens''ha ha ha ha .but when we catch you malakes in smyrna we have chopped you all like pigs.they say the whole smyrna bay turned to wine red out of greek blood.
tourkosfuktme 1 year ago
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canimulkem 2 years ago
ben bu ibineyi tanıorummm ..yakalandığı dakkaa
imkan verilirse hizmet etmeye hazırım dememişmiydiiii
ama hala bu iti ilider sanan kürt ler yokmuuu yazık size yaaa sizi kadar cahil başka bi millet te yoktur heralde hahhahaha
ssquilibrato 2 years ago 4
GREECE AND PKK POWER AND GLORY !!
oropios 2 years ago
he is eating shit through a straw now, hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
mshefik1 2 years ago
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YASASINJITEM 2 years ago
greece+kurdistan=friends forever,fuck
the bastards turkish.
dedia8 3 years ago
Ne diyor bu amına koduğum öclan...
iki lafını bir arada konuşuyor... hem Türk halkına karşı değilim diyor... hemde onu sırtından bıçaklıyor... kafayı yemiş bu götveren...
Yanına 20 tane Yunanistan alda gel... haddini bildirelim... şerefsiz köpek.
Aclaranse 3 years ago
Korlerle sagirlar birbirini agirlar ... kurdun kotusuyle , yunanin pici birliktelik ariyorlar ... Birlik olamazlar ya ... Dusmanimin dusmani benim dostumdur tezi ile hareket eden iki salak ve destekcileri ..
En kraliniza duble giderim , ibnetorlar ..
MAYKILKARLEON 3 years ago
en gucsuz zamanimizda ingiltere fransa avustralya basta olmak uzere 7 ulke adim bile atamamis apo pici daha ne konuscagini bilmiyor zamaninda irak sinirindan sizi almasaydik saddam ananizi sikecekti biz yunanistanla tarih boyunca girdigimiz 7 savasida kazandik yunanistanda savas olsa aksam savasa gideriz sabah atinada kahvalti yabariz .soz konusu vatan olunca cok analar sikioz kurtler uyanik olun ananiz bi kalip rum sabununa gider
mtvremix 3 years ago
magges a koza allaxan kai oi kourdoi
den psinontai apo ton tourko allo pia..
tora einai me amas tous ellines kai ayto
sevasteite to kai axiopioiste to..
filika
saltadoros08 3 years ago
insanin dusmanida mert olmali bu dummukden dusman dahi olmaz uyduruk kaydirik bokdan bir ulke kuracagim hayali ile yalamadigi yarrak kalmamis picin yunanin arabin yakalandigindada bizim kini yaladi pic buna onder diyip pesinden yuruyenin aklini beynini sikeyim avradini sikdigim dangalaklari bu pice uyupda birlikde yasadiginiz insanlara dusman olmayin beyinsiz maymunlar
emirhanch 3 years ago
biji Kurdistan
zhto HELLAS KURDISTAN
yasasin Kürt milleti
ne mutlu Kürdüm diyene
DeutscherSEK 3 years ago 3
ΔΕΝ ΥΠΑΡΧΟΥΝ ΦΙΛΟΙ ΤΗΣ ΕΛΛΑΔΟΣ ΜΙΑ ΖΩΗ ΤΗΝ ΚΑΤΑΣΤΡΟΦΗ ΜΑΣ ΘΕΛΑΝ ΤΟ ΣΥΜΦΕΡΟΝ ΤΟΥΣ ΚΟΙΤΑΝ ΑΠΛΑ!!!
misteras6 3 years ago 2
!!!we are -all B-R-O-T-H-E-R-S FUCK THE WAR!!!
johnktm620 3 years ago
Great to hear from this classic interview on Greek television.
His movement, continues !!!
BIJI PKK !
INDEPENDENT KURDISTAN !!!
Thessalonik1 3 years ago 3
Vay ORRRRROSPU COCUGU.....Yunanlara göt veren ibne!
sigimex 3 years ago
gamo ton pousti ton otsalan kala ton kanan k ton prodosan oxi oi ellines alla oi toyrkoi.
kapote tous kourdoys toys eixan balei oi toyrkoi na kapsoun ti smirni..
se antalagma tha toys dinan edafi apo tin kataktimenh mikra asia. alla pote den edosan k giafto sfazonte simera.
thanatos stoys kourdoys!
johnktm620 3 years ago 3
To kserw omws toulaxiston oi Kourdoi anagnwrisan to lathos tous oxi opws oi Tourkoi!!!
HELLASAPOLLONAS 3 years ago
350000 ellines pontioi sfagiasmenoi kai apla anagnoriszo to la8os?Oxi file.Emeis oi pontioi gnorizoume kalytera giati ayto den anaferete bebaia stin istoria.aytoi mas sfaxane.Esy an tous sygxoreis emeis pote.Tis katares ton papoudon mas plironoun.Kourdoi kai Tourkoi skylia kai oi dyo.Karkino se olous sas
EreselisPaidas 3 years ago
Simfono apolyta! Afti itan mazi me tous tourkous. Kana istoriko lathos ke to plironoun simera. Ala ine o Exthros tou exthrou ke etsi kali gia mas. Enooite afta pou lei o apo ine apolytes wlakies. Den boroun afti na mas boithisoun se tipota...
Ellinasforever 3 years ago
tora omos mporoume na tous valoume
na kapsoun tin tourkiki smyrni..
tote tou eixan oi tourkoi
tora einai me tou ellines,kai tous vrizeis?
saltadoros08 3 years ago
eixa na sou fero paradigmata, alla ksereis kati, apofasisa na min sou apantiso, dioti pisteyo, oti me ayto pou grafis, prosbaleis prota apo ola, tin noimosini sou..
johnktm620 3 years ago
kala re file esy agnoise oti zoume sto 2008
kai meine sto 12 to 22 kai to 40
kai oi voulgaroi italoi germanoi itan kapota exthroi allatora ola einai mia xara...
saltadoros08 3 years ago
edo h ellada den exei paidia.. den mporese na ensoomatosi mia xoufta anthropon (skopia) pou exoume koini thriskia. k esy milas gia kourdous?
ayto pou leeo ego einai poly mprosta k an fenete trelo se merikous fantasou afto pou lees esi..epidei den exeis doulepsi me alodapo sigoura, kane mia makgia pigene psakse giati kaneis pia den empisteyete kourdo, bres enan mastora na exei kourdo k doulepse na deis ti mounopana einai, exoun maxerosi sti douleia pano enan mpogiatzi akousa mia fora..
johnktm620 3 years ago
e kala kai go efuga apo tin ellada na min skotoso mastores...telos panton
ama kanoun oi kourdoi kratos i tourkia pernei ta arxidia tis mia gia panta..
to katalavaneis ayto i einai toso dyskolo?
filika
saltadoros08 3 years ago
den eisai saltadoros....apla eisai malakas...lastixo tin exeis kanei...
serr3aios 2 years ago
skase re vlaxo
saltadoros08 2 years ago
öcalan nerde? hahaha
Tarkan30 3 years ago
enemy of turkey is friend of greece...
so PKK is good!!!
cpavlidi 3 years ago 3
senın ananı sıkıyım ( fuck your mother )
juesarph 3 years ago
We should be grateful to turkey???
What the hell are u talking about girl. Do you really know the history of kurd and what turks have done with kurds. Don't come here and say that WE should be grateful to Turkey. U don't have knowledges about the kurds and wha king of country Turkey is. Go ask your father about that. Maybe your father are one of those that are working for the turkish regime. I'm sure that he is one of this traitors.
Peshmarge0290 4 years ago 2
Second. Answer me. Turks can learn their own language in german schools, but we can not learn kurdish in turkish schools. And only state channels (TRT) can broadcast kurdish. Kurds can not broadcast kurdish in Turkey. Because of that there are not any kurdish Channel or Radio without TRT in Turkey.
krimanc 4 years ago
İt is a lie. PKK does not kill kurds, turkish secret service (Jitem) kills innocent kurds. For example İzzettin Yıldırım, Musa Anter, Savaş Buldan and many others innocent kurds are slained by turkish secret service...
krimanc 4 years ago
Answer me, is there any kurdish tv or radio in Turkey? Why has fascist turkish regime burned many kurdish villages? Turkey is a fascist country and we kurds fight for our rıghts, for our honor.
krimanc 4 years ago 2
@krimanc Dear friend... there is TRT 6 in turkey.. is a NATIONAL channel with money from state that ALL shows is in KURDISH!! .. . You're not kurt at all , you're a simple shit..... Second There is alot kurdish radios, specially in istanbul
meubarsa 1 year ago
My greek friends, TurkishRose lies. He is not kurdish. And many kurds supports Öcalan. And all kurds are ready to fight against fascist turkish regime for democracy.
krimanc 4 years ago
Helal olsun Öcalana iyi sikti fasistleri. Gercekten saygim var. I mean my greek friends Öcalan is a very brave man. He fights for democracy, for freedom in Turkey. He is not a racist or kurdish nationalist. He does not hate anybody but turkish regime hates kurds. Öcalan türk rejimi gibi irkci veya fasist degildir.
krimanc 4 years ago
So fuck the Turkish government, Erdogan and Babacan and Ali and the other fascists!
Biji Kurdistan!
Err0rKrieger 4 years ago
WTF are you talking about you sick Turk/Kurd.
If you really are a Kurd your father must be ashamed, you have the nickname; TurkishRose
You`re a shame!
PKK is protecting our beloved Kurdistan!
I don`t like PKK`s actions, but I at least know that they`re fighting for Kurdistan!
I`m not Greek, but I`ve many Greek friends my self. I`ve also Turkish friends, many of them were as brothers for me!
But there is a difference between Turkey and SOME Turks!
Err0rKrieger 4 years ago
LOL go read a history book or something you idiot TurkishRose!
Greece hates Turkey!
PKK kills Turks, they rape Turks and the assassinate Turks!
Get over the whining you fucking Turk!
Fuck the fucking Turkish fascism!
You freaking Nazis!
Long live Kurdistan!
Biji Kurd ù Kurdistan!
Err0rKrieger 4 years ago
Long Live KURDISTAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
fuck turkey
LongLiveKurdistan 4 years ago
Ayta akoysan o Shmitakos kai o Pagkalos kai ton ekanan paketo gia thn Toyrkia...
uspex40 4 years ago
Screw terrorist Turkey
Curdo1985 4 years ago
i dont like his words( fasists racist etc)
And the red bolshevic stars are suspicious....
Napoleontas 4 years ago
biji serok apo ama ne desen türkler almiyor
mahsun17 4 years ago
Gazeteci Türkiye yle Yunanistan savaşırsa Kürtlerin hangi tarafta yer alacağını soruyor,it apo da doğudan ve batıdan Türkiye nin sıkıştırılarak tarihin en hayırlı sonucunun alınacağını söylüyor.. Bu kürtler boynumuzdaki yılan sokmak için fırsat kolluyorlar,bu eşşekçe hoşgörümüz,yöneticilerin ihaneti birgün felaketimiz olacak,uyanın Türkler...
temuchin76 4 years ago
Den drepeste apo tin istoria sas ke kafeste ke me autous tous tromokrates.pou eidate tetio pragma apo tus Tourkus ?Ne Mutlu Türküm Diyene!!!
TurkishForces1453 4 years ago
Turks are terrorists by will of their state...
Kostaros 4 years ago
Eisaste tromokrates ex orismoy. Ayth einai h paroysia sas sth pagkosmia istoria.
uspex40 4 years ago