Very good experiment.. nice job. What if you put some peltier on the exhaust? By using some more energy for the HHO cell the engine would run even better.
I hope to find time and try this experiment on my own.
Interesting experiment but no practical applications. I would be more interested to find out how long does that engine run on 5 ml of fuel without HHO then how long does it run on 5 ml with HHO rather than 'that's the hydrogen right there!' I want to encourage you to go in another direction. You do very fine work. BTW, the escape velocity of H2 in air is 16 km/s but don't forget the 'breaking action' of the O in HHO. Don't take the O out of HHO.
Couldn't you put a one-way valve on the intake of the non-combustible gas from the exhaust per Stan Meyer? The HHO and non-combustible gas mixture can give you a slower burn rate per Stan Meyer.
@instantproducts diluting the hho mix slows the burn rate this is the nature of fuels, I have mixed the hho as lean as it can be and still the run, which means this is the mixture which closely matches gasoline in its flame spread. as I add more hho the engine will speed up maintaining the lean mix for each piston stroke. A one way valve could work but there is a better way to trap the hho. seal the box. ......
@TommeyLReed at 1200 watt the hho output would be around 6 LPM.
Yes, I have measured outputs, do you expect this to be overunity or something? If so this may not be the place for you to look. this engine is not OU, never claimed or thought it would be, it was done to understand the amount of hho that is needed to run the engine, and what does the engine do when running on hho. and the video is 2 yrs old
HHO is a special fuel that can't be use in any IC engine, I have design many engines, The patented Rotary Piston Engine, and the Ratchet Engine(patent pending). The rachet engine converts linear movement into direct rotational movement. I did a test using HHO as a fuel to explode into a piston that use the ratchet engine to spin the shaft . My experiments and theory is that you must build the engine for the fuel, not just to use any fuel in a basic engine...
@TommeyLReed do you watch any of my videos? or do you just assume you know everything I know and understand? you are not as smart as you believe you are if you are going to be so assumptive. An intelligent person asks questions, not gives statements, before know what the other person is doing.
Text book data says 8.7 cubic feet of hydrogen in one hour at 1atm using 1000 watts.
My data say your about right on how much HHO you are making.
8.7/60 =.145 cu/ft per min of h2, add the oxygen from the eletrolysis. (.145*1.5)=.2175cu/ft or about 6.16 liters per minute. You should be making a little more then that, where is the otther 200 watts going?
Most people think they make alot of hydrogen, when is fact it take 1000w to make 8.7 cu.ft in one hour at 1 ATM. 1 watt will rise 1 lb of water 1 degree in one hour.
Text book data says 8.7 cubic feet of hydrogen in one hour at 1atm using 1000 watts.
My data say your about right on how much HHO you are making.
8.7/60 =.145 cu/ft per min of h2, add the oxygen from the eletrolysis. (.145*1.5)=.2175cu/ft or about 6.16 liters per minute. You should be making a little more then that, where is the otther 200 watts going?
Hydrogen burns, about 4400 meters per second. The cause of hydrogen poping out of the intake is because of the valve system being too slow, that's why hydrogen back fires. Most people think you have to adjust timing, when in fact this fuel burn too fast for any IC engine.. If you study the fuel you will see it won't run any IC engine in a efficient way. This is why gasoline is used with a very slow burn rate....
@TommeyLReed its not the burn speed, the valve is completely closed before the spark hits. Its cause from a lean burn. It is easy to see for ones self when you have the engine running well, leak some of the fuel out into the air, not letting it in the engine, it begins to back fire very fast. I have to disagree with you on this one. use propane, it has a faster burn rate, or pure hydrogen.
Hydrogen has the fastest burn, at 4400 meters per second. At ((4400/3.28)/5280)=2.733 miles per second. Gasoline an propane is very slow burning fuel, If you are going to used Hydrogen in a engine, then use a fuel injector. But this fuel is not made for any IC engine...I injoyed the Smartscarecrow show last night,I did not agree with your opinion of Solar power, but it was a good show...
We made have started out on a bad start, but you should respect what I know, I am a very gifted person. Mechanical engineering is very easy for me, Electronics I did for over 25 years and can build anything...I understand energy and how to make it....I will be on the Smartscarecrow show showing a advanced HHO engine soon....
@TommeyLReed thank you for the comment on the show. Yes there are some who dont agree with solar, everyone has their right to an opinion
As far as laminar speed goes, look up the data on lean burn flame speeds, and pressure time curves, as much as you can tune an engine to a fuel, you can tune hydrogen to your engine. Also you still dont seem to understand the purpose of these tests, you seem to think that they are about efficiently using hho, but you are missing the point.
@TommeyLReed So is a space heater. But in this case at least I gathered data that is now common knowledge. So its not a complete waste. But yes its not ou, it never was intended to be.
When calculated efficient the space heater is much better then you think. 4mg will run about 5 min at 3000 rpm's, don't think I don't know what type of generator that is. That's a walmart 1000kw peek, but 50% load is what is need to do real testing; not a at low rpm's under no load. I use this same type to challenge Geet system, using my vapor carb pulling a constant 50% load of 500watts. You are not doing good testing, you should be producing energy, not just running a engine!
The test is waste energy?Really, go spin a propeller. That is all you can say, lets look at the true facts. When running any engine using HHO, you must calculate input of enery vs output of energy. I bet you are using 10-20 times more energy just to run that engine without any load. If you know anything about power convertion you would have study it its a waste of energy. You would have been better to run your engine on hot air, because your full of it. Have a great day!
@TommeyLReed dude seriously pull your head out, and watch the rest of the videos before opening your mouth and making a fucking ass out of yourself. damn you assume alot.
then what is the point? net power loss with mechanical to electrical conversion, loss converting electrical to hho, and then burning hho back to mechanical energy.
@paulkaygmailcom the point was explained, but to cover it again, go find me the metrics on how much HHO it takes to run and engine, and how it affects an engine? The data was lacking, and in order to know what would happen the test had to be done.
considering it takes roughly 100kw worth of electricity in the electrolysis process to create one pound of hydrogen which in turn has the energy equivalent to 1 gallon of gasoline.. you be the judge
what don't I understand exactly? you CANNOT make 1 lb of hydrogen with 1kw. Have you ever heard of the law of conservation of energy? Maybe they didn't teach that in your HS physics. 1 cubic foot of hydrogen has an energy content of 325 BTU. One pound of hydrogen is 358 cu/ft. So, one pound contains 116,000 BTU. BTW, one gallon of gasoline is 125,000 BTU hence my statement earlier about being equivalent. 1 kw of electricity is directly equal to 3412BTU/hr.. not even close to 116,000
@paulkaygmailcom yes I can make 1lbs of hydrogen with 1kw, let me explain something to u there is this thing called time, it can be a pain in the ass, and sometimes it can be very useful. U need to go look up the difference between POWER and ENERGY, go do that and then come back, until u can post a comment showing an understanding of those two physics concepts I will not continue with u. It is not my job to do what u should have in HS, GO LEARN SOMETHING
@d3adp001 I do understand the difference in power and energy.. correction on my first post.. it should have been 100kwh.. there maybe that will shine a light. these experiments are fun and all.. but at the end of the day what is accomplished? you ran up a $15 power bill "100kwh @ $0.15 per kwh" to generate that pound of useful hydrogen to make your generator run.. but could have gotten the same result on a gallon of gasoline costing about $2.50-60/gal.
@paulkaygmailcom The point of all these tests was to answer some questions, like, how much hho does it take to idle an engine. Guys like stan meyers made big claims, but gave no metrics and science didnt have a reference answer either
How much hho input for how much engine energy output
What does the engine do when running on hho that is doesnt or does do with gas
BAsically I wanted to see an engine really run on hho, which had not been done to my satisfaction, does that help?
No the genny is not powering the cell, the cell was powered separately so that it could be monitered for voltage and amperage, while the gennerator output was measured independantly.
Hi there, it looks good. To get the H2 from blowing up the intake port carb just seperate the HHO gas to H2 and O2 then run it via 2 hose into tne intake port, so the mixture is not strong until it hits the intake port.
Mmmmm i Love it Man Im Building One now thnks for the Inputive been watching and i have a Ida it involves the Engine Not the Hho generator ..Free iNformation work on the Engine thast being Run on the hho the Hho generators seem to be doin fine..
Am I missing the point of this video? HHo is explosive, everyone knew you could run an internal combustion engine of it????? Hell they did it on mythbusters
here is a thought on the in take side make a box with a inlet for the hho ,then make a inlet for air , on the air side use a simple reed valve , use a butterfly on the air side to control rpms , since the hho should be at a steady rate adjust the amps to the hho cell to match the air flow
thats the direction of the next step, to allow vacuum to control the air intake, and amps to control the hho, its the building it part that gets tricky.
We the unwilling lead by the unqualified have been doing so much with so little for so long, we now attempt the impossible with absolutely nothing.
I know that alot of generators create a magnetic field from the alternator, hence why it was making your Thermometer go nuts, but thats just my thought, it was an awsome experiment keep up the good work
i connect my hho gen tube in tnat part of carb where the petrol pipe is connected but no result can u ttell me where i connect my hho gen output pipe and other thing is that will i seal air intake of my gasoline gen.plz rep
youre right and thats the Goal to create a hho gen that will run a Electric generator on nothin but water and it will Produce its own power to run the hho and the generator we just need hohnest people to get together to do it
I am trying to get a generator running and I just tried connecting the fuel intake hose to my hho cell output and i got zero results. So all i have to do is take that and try and stick it as far as i can into the carburetor air intake? Is that how you folks are doing it?
no we are injecting it into the manifold or straight into the carb opening, watch the upcoming vids, and smartscarecrow, this issue is to be addressed on the first teir level.
I am really thrilled about the RF interference. Can you please let me know if you obeserve the same phenomenon when you measure the temperature when running only on gasoline.
If you get the same thing with gasoline, then the RF interference is just the spark plug HV discharge. If the meters do not fluctuate when measuring temperature on gasoline...then there is something really going on in the combustion of HHO, that is more plasma related than just regular combustion.
ooops sorry I see you have already responded to this question. can you help me out with my fuel intake question. The carburetor fuel inlet seems to be a very inefficient way of getting my HHO to the engine.
I would advise running the hho into the intake manifold, with some restriction to not allow full vacuum pressure on the cell, or a long tube connected to the carb intake and put the injector inside that tube, far enough from the carb that if it torches it will not melt the carb down, but just stop running the engine. There are a couple other ways, give me a chance to test them. I will get back on this.
by that I take it that you are saying that it does not travel fast when let into the atmosphere. The air intake speed is no where near mach speeds, infact it is proly close to 40mph. I hate to be so crude, but have you ever broke wind, and have someone 10feet away smell it almost instantly? well hydrogen diffuses are 20 times that speed, it moves fast even when not exploding, it is not negligible, test it for yourself, and tell me its negligible
producing 50% more gas, the engine wouldn't run, give it some direction to keep it from leaving the intake stream, and it runs with less gas. Thats fact. Also this is a single piston engine, which means 3/4 of the time it is not intaking air, the intake air speed is a pulse with backpressure wave out of the intake manifold. that affects things.
I don't have a field str meter, but ssc does and he should be able to get that test done for us. I could use a coil, or test voltage to earth ground, as the generator it ground isolated it should give a decent check, but my meter proly won't register it right. I should hook up a diode and hv cap, and see if it pumps up.
Ok, d3 you mention RF ... now you have my full attention!
Hmm, probably is RF now that you mention it. Sparks do generate a wide band of radiation and it's very uncontrolled frequency-wise. Do you have an RF survey meter?
It might be interesting to see how much RF power is radiating from the engine. ... I wonder if it could be filtered and harnessed to dissociate molecules in water vapor. Hmmm
ya thats whats got our heads spinning. It definitly didn't happen when running gas, and some would say its just the spark plug, but it is only detectable when running on hho, did another test to confirm, any digiatl meter put in prox. to the combustion chamber and certain parts of the block, go nuts, just like when I run my HV coil spark gap, but that one will turn off flourescent lights in an 8' radius, this is more localized.
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has anyone gotten the electrolysis cell to run off only the generated power source, and have power supply to use toward work
yeaalrightiamawake 2 weeks ago
Very good experiment.. nice job. What if you put some peltier on the exhaust? By using some more energy for the HHO cell the engine would run even better.
I hope to find time and try this experiment on my own.
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hermzchrist 3 months ago
Interesting experiment but no practical applications. I would be more interested to find out how long does that engine run on 5 ml of fuel without HHO then how long does it run on 5 ml with HHO rather than 'that's the hydrogen right there!' I want to encourage you to go in another direction. You do very fine work. BTW, the escape velocity of H2 in air is 16 km/s but don't forget the 'breaking action' of the O in HHO. Don't take the O out of HHO.
amos033 7 months ago
Couldn't you put a one-way valve on the intake of the non-combustible gas from the exhaust per Stan Meyer? The HHO and non-combustible gas mixture can give you a slower burn rate per Stan Meyer.
instantproducts 1 year ago
@instantproducts diluting the hho mix slows the burn rate this is the nature of fuels, I have mixed the hho as lean as it can be and still the run, which means this is the mixture which closely matches gasoline in its flame spread. as I add more hho the engine will speed up maintaining the lean mix for each piston stroke. A one way valve could work but there is a better way to trap the hho. seal the box. ......
d3adp001 1 year ago
Right on. HHO will rule soon.
HHOhybridBuilder 1 year ago
nice analogy
squiresuzuki 1 year ago
1207.34 watts of power is a lot of energy, just how many liters of hho do you make?
1.6 hp of input work, have you tested how much energy is being created?
TommeyLReed 1 year ago
@TommeyLReed at 1200 watt the hho output would be around 6 LPM.
Yes, I have measured outputs, do you expect this to be overunity or something? If so this may not be the place for you to look. this engine is not OU, never claimed or thought it would be, it was done to understand the amount of hho that is needed to run the engine, and what does the engine do when running on hho. and the video is 2 yrs old
d3adp001 1 year ago
@d3adp001
HHO is a special fuel that can't be use in any IC engine, I have design many engines, The patented Rotary Piston Engine, and the Ratchet Engine(patent pending). The rachet engine converts linear movement into direct rotational movement. I did a test using HHO as a fuel to explode into a piston that use the ratchet engine to spin the shaft . My experiments and theory is that you must build the engine for the fuel, not just to use any fuel in a basic engine...
TommeyLReed 1 year ago
@TommeyLReed do you watch any of my videos? or do you just assume you know everything I know and understand? you are not as smart as you believe you are if you are going to be so assumptive. An intelligent person asks questions, not gives statements, before know what the other person is doing.
d3adp001 1 year ago
@d3adp001
Text book data says 8.7 cubic feet of hydrogen in one hour at 1atm using 1000 watts.
My data say your about right on how much HHO you are making.
8.7/60 =.145 cu/ft per min of h2, add the oxygen from the eletrolysis. (.145*1.5)=.2175cu/ft or about 6.16 liters per minute. You should be making a little more then that, where is the otther 200 watts going?
TommeyLReed 1 year ago
.145ft^3 /.66 = .21969696 or 6.221L, please examine the method to properly reverse percentages. Your math was incorrect.
And I am happy that you can read a text book.
d3adp001 1 year ago
Most people think they make alot of hydrogen, when is fact it take 1000w to make 8.7 cu.ft in one hour at 1 ATM. 1 watt will rise 1 lb of water 1 degree in one hour.
TommeyLReed 1 year ago
@TommeyLReed please show math on the first part.
and yes wiki has much to say about caloric standards.
d3adp001 1 year ago
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@d3adp001
Text book data says 8.7 cubic feet of hydrogen in one hour at 1atm using 1000 watts.
My data say your about right on how much HHO you are making.
8.7/60 =.145 cu/ft per min of h2, add the oxygen from the eletrolysis. (.145*1.5)=.2175cu/ft or about 6.16 liters per minute. You should be making a little more then that, where is the otther 200 watts going?
TommeyLReed 1 year ago
Hydrogen burns, about 4400 meters per second. The cause of hydrogen poping out of the intake is because of the valve system being too slow, that's why hydrogen back fires. Most people think you have to adjust timing, when in fact this fuel burn too fast for any IC engine.. If you study the fuel you will see it won't run any IC engine in a efficient way. This is why gasoline is used with a very slow burn rate....
TommeyLReed 1 year ago
@TommeyLReed its not the burn speed, the valve is completely closed before the spark hits. Its cause from a lean burn. It is easy to see for ones self when you have the engine running well, leak some of the fuel out into the air, not letting it in the engine, it begins to back fire very fast. I have to disagree with you on this one. use propane, it has a faster burn rate, or pure hydrogen.
d3adp001 1 year ago
@d3adp001
Hydrogen has the fastest burn, at 4400 meters per second. At ((4400/3.28)/5280)=2.733 miles per second. Gasoline an propane is very slow burning fuel, If you are going to used Hydrogen in a engine, then use a fuel injector. But this fuel is not made for any IC engine...I injoyed the Smartscarecrow show last night,I did not agree with your opinion of Solar power, but it was a good show...
TommeyLReed 1 year ago
@TommeyLReed
We made have started out on a bad start, but you should respect what I know, I am a very gifted person. Mechanical engineering is very easy for me, Electronics I did for over 25 years and can build anything...I understand energy and how to make it....I will be on the Smartscarecrow show showing a advanced HHO engine soon....
TommeyLReed 1 year ago
@TommeyLReed I have no comment for boasters.
d3adp001 1 year ago
@TommeyLReed thank you for the comment on the show. Yes there are some who dont agree with solar, everyone has their right to an opinion
As far as laminar speed goes, look up the data on lean burn flame speeds, and pressure time curves, as much as you can tune an engine to a fuel, you can tune hydrogen to your engine. Also you still dont seem to understand the purpose of these tests, you seem to think that they are about efficiently using hho, but you are missing the point.
d3adp001 1 year ago
waste of energy!
TommeyLReed 1 year ago
@TommeyLReed So is a space heater. But in this case at least I gathered data that is now common knowledge. So its not a complete waste. But yes its not ou, it never was intended to be.
d3adp001 1 year ago
@d3adp001
When calculated efficient the space heater is much better then you think. 4mg will run about 5 min at 3000 rpm's, don't think I don't know what type of generator that is. That's a walmart 1000kw peek, but 50% load is what is need to do real testing; not a at low rpm's under no load. I use this same type to challenge Geet system, using my vapor carb pulling a constant 50% load of 500watts. You are not doing good testing, you should be producing energy, not just running a engine!
TommeyLReed 1 year ago
@TommeyLReed Actually no its not a walmart, but probably made in the same factory in china, rated at 1.2kwbut I dont think it would do it
You should get a clue and understand the purpose of the test. running the engine was the test. go spin a propeller.
d3adp001 1 year ago
@d3adp001
The test is waste energy?Really, go spin a propeller. That is all you can say, lets look at the true facts. When running any engine using HHO, you must calculate input of enery vs output of energy. I bet you are using 10-20 times more energy just to run that engine without any load. If you know anything about power convertion you would have study it its a waste of energy. You would have been better to run your engine on hot air, because your full of it. Have a great day!
TommeyLReed 1 year ago
@TommeyLReed dude seriously pull your head out, and watch the rest of the videos before opening your mouth and making a fucking ass out of yourself. damn you assume alot.
d3adp001 1 year ago
@d3adp001
Anyone that need to use words like that, needs no more comments from me!
You can claim all you want, or test what you think, but the real facts is a waste of time and energy....
God Bless you!!!!
TommeyLReed 1 year ago
@TommeyLReed yes yes, please go hide. you completely miss the point, and think you know something. You will miss his message and methods too.
d3adp001 1 year ago
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TommeyLReed 1 year ago
you cant run the generator on HHO alone and power the cells.
rallycsx 1 year ago
@rallycsx i never said I could or that I was trying to. Whats your point?
d3adp001 1 year ago
@d3adp001
then what is the point? net power loss with mechanical to electrical conversion, loss converting electrical to hho, and then burning hho back to mechanical energy.
paulkaygmailcom 1 year ago
@paulkaygmailcom the point was explained, but to cover it again, go find me the metrics on how much HHO it takes to run and engine, and how it affects an engine? The data was lacking, and in order to know what would happen the test had to be done.
Simple answer, To know, and to share with others.
d3adp001 1 year ago
@d3adp001
considering it takes roughly 100kw worth of electricity in the electrolysis process to create one pound of hydrogen which in turn has the energy equivalent to 1 gallon of gasoline.. you be the judge
paulkaygmailcom 1 year ago
@paulkaygmailcom first please stop reciting incorrect info that u dont understand
a KW is not a measure of energy its a measure of power
I can make 1lbs of H with 1kw if I want to, energy is power/time so the POWER input can be anything it just changes the time to release that energy
given the fact that you dont understand that, it is understandable why u dont understand the purpose of these tests
That being the case dont comment on that u dont understand
thank u
d3adp001 1 year ago
@d3adp001
what don't I understand exactly? you CANNOT make 1 lb of hydrogen with 1kw. Have you ever heard of the law of conservation of energy? Maybe they didn't teach that in your HS physics. 1 cubic foot of hydrogen has an energy content of 325 BTU. One pound of hydrogen is 358 cu/ft. So, one pound contains 116,000 BTU. BTW, one gallon of gasoline is 125,000 BTU hence my statement earlier about being equivalent. 1 kw of electricity is directly equal to 3412BTU/hr.. not even close to 116,000
paulkaygmailcom 1 year ago
@paulkaygmailcom yes I can make 1lbs of hydrogen with 1kw, let me explain something to u there is this thing called time, it can be a pain in the ass, and sometimes it can be very useful. U need to go look up the difference between POWER and ENERGY, go do that and then come back, until u can post a comment showing an understanding of those two physics concepts I will not continue with u. It is not my job to do what u should have in HS, GO LEARN SOMETHING
U r the problem
d3adp001 1 year ago
@d3adp001 I do understand the difference in power and energy.. correction on my first post.. it should have been 100kwh.. there maybe that will shine a light. these experiments are fun and all.. but at the end of the day what is accomplished? you ran up a $15 power bill "100kwh @ $0.15 per kwh" to generate that pound of useful hydrogen to make your generator run.. but could have gotten the same result on a gallon of gasoline costing about $2.50-60/gal.
paulkaygmailcom 1 year ago
@paulkaygmailcom Ok now that makes much more sense. But you are wrong about 100kwhr, its actually around 20-25kwhr which makes the cost about 3.50
right now gas costs 3.10 here. But your real point is this why go to the effort if there is no real gain
I understand the point u r making, but u still r missing mine, which is why I supposed u asked in the first place, here is the answer....
d3adp001 1 year ago
@paulkaygmailcom The point of all these tests was to answer some questions, like, how much hho does it take to idle an engine. Guys like stan meyers made big claims, but gave no metrics and science didnt have a reference answer either
How much hho input for how much engine energy output
What does the engine do when running on hho that is doesnt or does do with gas
BAsically I wanted to see an engine really run on hho, which had not been done to my satisfaction, does that help?
d3adp001 1 year ago
hi great work!
haomax 2500lpg does have a lpg generator hwo have a nossle beetwen the carborator and intake exelent for hho +lpg
fytic 2 years ago
I have won dered if the lpg carb would work, but I dont have a haomax, so.....
d3adp001 2 years ago
hi ii was wondering how are you powering the hho generator is it off the generator? if so is there extra power after what you use for the generator?
Thanks
gunneddowninglory 2 years ago
No the genny is not powering the cell, the cell was powered separately so that it could be monitered for voltage and amperage, while the gennerator output was measured independantly.
d3adp001 2 years ago
Hi there, it looks good. To get the H2 from blowing up the intake port carb just seperate the HHO gas to H2 and O2 then run it via 2 hose into tne intake port, so the mixture is not strong until it hits the intake port.
yuhereexe 2 years ago
nice How lpm are u running?
JVGH30 2 years ago
the point is: is that an overtunity machine?
DesmoRob 2 years ago
No its an experimental test bed engine.
d3adp001 2 years ago
Mmmmm i Love it Man Im Building One now thnks for the Inputive been watching and i have a Ida it involves the Engine Not the Hho generator ..Free iNformation work on the Engine thast being Run on the hho the Hho generators seem to be doin fine..
Muggzie76 2 years ago
Am I missing the point of this video? HHo is explosive, everyone knew you could run an internal combustion engine of it????? Hell they did it on mythbusters
issmech 2 years ago
well if you don't get the point I am not sure I can explain it to you.
d3adp001 2 years ago
no they didnt, watch it again.
d3adp001 2 years ago
i think its very important to use pure slick 50. it will dave your piston rings in the long term
commando7144 2 years ago
here is a thought on the in take side make a box with a inlet for the hho ,then make a inlet for air , on the air side use a simple reed valve , use a butterfly on the air side to control rpms , since the hho should be at a steady rate adjust the amps to the hho cell to match the air flow
fletcho11 3 years ago
thats the direction of the next step, to allow vacuum to control the air intake, and amps to control the hho, its the building it part that gets tricky.
We the unwilling lead by the unqualified have been doing so much with so little for so long, we now attempt the impossible with absolutely nothing.
d3adp001 3 years ago
I know that alot of generators create a magnetic field from the alternator, hence why it was making your Thermometer go nuts, but thats just my thought, it was an awsome experiment keep up the good work
mikee2503 3 years ago
The effect is only detectable with pure hho, rf noise is a possibility, and further testing will provide an answer, just a little time.
d3adp001 3 years ago
i connect my hho gen tube in tnat part of carb where the petrol pipe is connected but no result can u ttell me where i connect my hho gen output pipe and other thing is that will i seal air intake of my gasoline gen.plz rep
krazay1042 3 years ago
inject it into the carb opening close to the butterfly. Watch the other videos and I get into that.
d3adp001 3 years ago
take the power from the genorater back to the electrolizer that powers the genorator. Should run forever right?
adam3176 3 years ago
youre right and thats the Goal to create a hho gen that will run a Electric generator on nothin but water and it will Produce its own power to run the hho and the generator we just need hohnest people to get together to do it
Muggzie76 2 years ago
what ya do is Loop the power back to the electrolizer that is making the gas for the engine. then it will run Forever! :P
adam3176 3 years ago
the 2nd question:
I am trying to get a generator running and I just tried connecting the fuel intake hose to my hho cell output and i got zero results. So all i have to do is take that and try and stick it as far as i can into the carburetor air intake? Is that how you folks are doing it?
mjchauffe 3 years ago
no we are injecting it into the manifold or straight into the carb opening, watch the upcoming vids, and smartscarecrow, this issue is to be addressed on the first teir level.
d3adp001 3 years ago
Wow! I have 2 questions:
I am really thrilled about the RF interference. Can you please let me know if you obeserve the same phenomenon when you measure the temperature when running only on gasoline.
If you get the same thing with gasoline, then the RF interference is just the spark plug HV discharge. If the meters do not fluctuate when measuring temperature on gasoline...then there is something really going on in the combustion of HHO, that is more plasma related than just regular combustion.
mjchauffe 3 years ago
ooops sorry I see you have already responded to this question. can you help me out with my fuel intake question. The carburetor fuel inlet seems to be a very inefficient way of getting my HHO to the engine.
mjchauffe 3 years ago
I would advise running the hho into the intake manifold, with some restriction to not allow full vacuum pressure on the cell, or a long tube connected to the carb intake and put the injector inside that tube, far enough from the carb that if it torches it will not melt the carb down, but just stop running the engine. There are a couple other ways, give me a chance to test them. I will get back on this.
d3adp001 3 years ago
Hydrogen travels at mach 3.5 WHILE COMBUSTING.
:)
In free flow, not combusting, there is a negligible difference to air flow.
jerry39218 3 years ago
by that I take it that you are saying that it does not travel fast when let into the atmosphere. The air intake speed is no where near mach speeds, infact it is proly close to 40mph. I hate to be so crude, but have you ever broke wind, and have someone 10feet away smell it almost instantly? well hydrogen diffuses are 20 times that speed, it moves fast even when not exploding, it is not negligible, test it for yourself, and tell me its negligible
d3adp001 3 years ago
producing 50% more gas, the engine wouldn't run, give it some direction to keep it from leaving the intake stream, and it runs with less gas. Thats fact. Also this is a single piston engine, which means 3/4 of the time it is not intaking air, the intake air speed is a pulse with backpressure wave out of the intake manifold. that affects things.
d3adp001 3 years ago
RF like that must have something to do with the plasma flame.
can you make a probe coil to hunt around the engine?
or use a field stregth meter?
maybe thats a better source of power than the large alternator the engine is spinning!
m3sca1 3 years ago
I don't have a field str meter, but ssc does and he should be able to get that test done for us. I could use a coil, or test voltage to earth ground, as the generator it ground isolated it should give a decent check, but my meter proly won't register it right. I should hook up a diode and hv cap, and see if it pumps up.
d3adp001 3 years ago
Ok, d3 you mention RF ... now you have my full attention!
Hmm, probably is RF now that you mention it. Sparks do generate a wide band of radiation and it's very uncontrolled frequency-wise. Do you have an RF survey meter?
It might be interesting to see how much RF power is radiating from the engine. ... I wonder if it could be filtered and harnessed to dissociate molecules in water vapor. Hmmm
vancecook7 3 years ago
ya thats whats got our heads spinning. It definitly didn't happen when running gas, and some would say its just the spark plug, but it is only detectable when running on hho, did another test to confirm, any digiatl meter put in prox. to the combustion chamber and certain parts of the block, go nuts, just like when I run my HV coil spark gap, but that one will turn off flourescent lights in an 8' radius, this is more localized.
d3adp001 3 years ago