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  • Yeah 4th gen was the best this one was crap I stopped collecting tyranids when this gen came out

  • I've heard some people say this codex doesn't have a lot of staying power, particularly since the armies that came after it have some really nasty Nid killers.

  • What sort of stuff in the fluff did you not like?

  • Honestly, this codex made me want to throw out my army and just buy trygons and more gaunts, just GW said screw diversity

  • Carnifex's can be in units of one to three, with adrenal glands and frag spines you assault into cover and strike at the same time as marines with reroll ro hit if you take two sets of scything talons. Plus you can cast Feel No Pain on the whole unit if you take a Tervigon.

    Venomthropes rock! You just have to keep it directly behind a monstrous creature so people cant draw line of sight.

  • im nid player and i agree compleetly with jsut about everything hes said lol

  • ive played like 100 games since new codex and ive won like 1 of them,

    this new codex takes the fun out of playing, might aswell change the name to "sitting ducks" the only elites u should use are ymgarls, and as troops genestealers its like a minor version of a deathwing army, then spam spore mines to minimise their table edge. trygon prime is allright.

  • its true that they dumbed down the standard carnifex, but i still reserve my place to whine when a realy cool model becomes a shelf peice and dust collector, sad they lost rending claws.

  • when are you actually gonna put up unit reviews called talking about tyranids. none of your vids actually say talking about tyranids, just unit review whatever.

  • R.I.P. Carnifex u will be rembered for what u were not what u died as....

  • I don't have enough money to play D:<

  • song? you always have great music in your vids aux

  • i don't like the fluff in the codex and some units are pretty shit *cough* pyrovorewtf*cough* but i like it overall. its balanced and its a nice change from the old codex where you could only run nidzilla or pure swarm. imo

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  • getting codex tomorrow, but I need to know whick is better Trygons or mawlocs? Keep in mind ill mostly be playing orks and marines.

  • @chopperdacat trygon always, the mawlock helps against swarms like orks, but trygons will help you against everything,

  • the biggest pain for me is that I am in possesion of 4 fexes and now I need to exchange them for trygons but unfortunately I have no cash

  • @Daroko333 turn them into tervigons, or cut there legs/tails off and give em scything talons. then go ahead and put dirt around it so it looks like its burrowing or something, watch aux's vid with the newer trygons he has.

  • I must say, I've played against nids twice now, one draw, and one loss, technically the draw I had just about won, but due to a couple of errors we had a gentleman's agreement (which I initiated incidentally) that we'd call it a draw. TBH I don't think it's quite as broken as ppl first thought, okay the instant death rule is gone, but hey come on, that rule is so broken anyway, and most of what it affects can't be ID'd anyhow, (Hive Tyrants et al.).

  • God damnit, the codex has some great stuff, but overall its a disappointment.

    CRUDdace (lol), copied a lot of stuff from other codices. Carnifexes suck now because of this. 9 Carnifexes would of been nice if Guard didn't have 9 of their Carnifex equivalents (tanks), but they do it better. In fact, they do it so significantly better that Carnifexes are considered a bad choice.

    And the Tyranid drop pods.... are such marine knock offs. I mean, they are great and all, but that just annoys me.

  • one of the things i missed reading the dex the first time, but have come to realize is somtimes a big deal , is the lack of flesh hooks , whenever i ran with stealers or homagaunts i always gave them flesh hooks, since they cant have them anymore , charging an enemy in cover can be a painfull experience

  • @warpfyre Plus when I was reading it it felt like I was reading a Necron Codex or something. Half the biomorphs are gone--I liked it better when each had their OWN page.

  • wat is the song ?

  • thank god aux is back, now we'll get the real lowdown on this new codex.

  • In all honesty, I agree with how the Tyranids have changed and such, but a lot of people may have different views on excepting it; basically. I mean, the Old Codex was a nice book, I'll admit, but for what things could do they did overprice such.

    My stuff is still my old Nid stuff and I still feel like my old army, because it's what I expect to find fun out of and how it works.

    Well, that's my opinion on how things work. I will continue to watch your vids are they continue.

  • Well I'm at least a little glad that 99% of Nid Players feel the same way I do. DAMN YOU CRUDDACE!!!!!!!

  • now wtf do i do with all my fuckin fexes?

    spose i could throw them at the cat, least i dont have to paint em.

  • sell them to me?

  • I traded the bulk of my Nids to finish off my Witch Hunters army.

    Do not have the time, patience, or money.

  • Then again I did buy a Trigon today. I probably won't use him but the model just looks too awesome.

  • A little to much whining in this video.

    So I stopped watching. Just a heads up.

    Like your other vids tough, keep up the good work.

  • It was explaining the majority of what people felt, and my views. My other video pretty much stated that we have to deal with it and move on

  • @Darforl If you want to comment on someones video maybe you should watch it to the end dumbass... He brings up valid points and conclusions in the other half of the video.

  • @Lerbrandt I am sure he does, and there is no need to call me an dumbass for trying to give a guy some constructive criticism. As I was just trying to help out with a constructive comment. Take care man, and for you own sake try to not get angry with people for no apparent reason, its not healthy for you.

  • @Darforl Constructive criticism?? "A little to much whining in this video" is NOT constructive, it is just a statement that he can not use at all, look it up you twat. First of, you fail to grasp the point of my reply; It is not that you are a dumbass, it is that you comment on something you have no full understanding of (not wacthing the end of the video) and secondly, I HAVE an apparent reason to get angry, and that is when people speak their mind without much thought or knowledge.

  • @Lerbrandt seriously easy on the rage its gonna take its tool on you someday. Once again take care! :)

  • BAAAAAAHH WAAAAAAAAAAHHHH my carnifexes

    BAAAAAAHH WAAAAAAAAAAHHHH I have to change play style

    BAAAAAAHH WAAAAAAAAHHH I can't immediately spot the new power build

    BWAAAAAAHHHHH!!

    Seriously. We have a new codex, it's different from the old, it allows a multitude of viable synergy builds, but your Carnifec's aren't overpowered anymore. Deal with it.

  • Thats pretty much what my other video states.

  • ROFL so true

  • @Kuspetaren The problem was the blatant cashgrabing that this dex' represented. It radically altered the worth of mainstay units from the previous one in an attempt to force sales.

  • @CLAWASS Can only agree with that.

  • the other think that kills me about the new dex is you need a lot of Termagaunt.... And a termagaunt box set is like 30$ in my country.... And currently i only have 8.... And i have 1 useless, illegal fex on my army....

    So, i think IG might be more 4 me because i like shooting A LOT.... And the cadian shock troops set isn't too expensive in my country.... it's 22$...

  • S10 AP1 is reserved for tau!

  • And Daemons, and IG, and Space Marines, and Space Wolves, and Daemon Hunters, and now the Tyranids, and DH had it before the Tau Empire book... :P

  • really? when did they have that

  • Sorry, can you be more specific? When did who have what? There's a S10 AP1 weapon in all of those codexes though the Space Marines and DH have the Orbital Bombardment (S10 AP1 Ordinance 1 Large Blast). Just look through the books and you'll find it all.

  • i haven't got my copy yet, but thanks to mr internet i have read the codex. i really have to agree with everything Auxelli0n said. pretty much all of the new unites are just some kind of ranged unite and the trygon. the mawloc is cool and all, but just like the trygon, it cant break big tanks. the trygon and mawloc are only st6 so is the vehicle has rear armor 13 your fucked. i hope if we complain enough they'll errata. and do we have models yet for all the new stuff even?

  • Trygons and Mawlocs are Monstrous Creatures, so they get S+ 2D6 against vehicles. They can kick over tanks just as easily as a hive tyrant or (almost as easily as) a carnifex. Also, considering the way they enter play, it might be easier for them to actually get there. Trygon Prime is definitely one of the most powerful units in the codex, and it makes sense, as Aux said, GW wants to sell lots of them!

  • my gun and daka fex's are still usefull right???

    RITGHT!?!?!

    my list from old codex is basicly gun and daka fex's, gaunt screens, daka tyrent and a few geanstealers.

  • Um... for about double their points

  • @Auxelli0n ok im not a nid player but from what i heard is that the new fex isnt all that great but the tyrant is better... feel free to correct me on this

  • its like this every time, still gotta figure out the tricks of the trade for this codex, itll get good i bet

  • Steve I'm still goin to start tyranids but...... I might need some 1850 lists :D

  • make new vids about useing the new nids im really counfused and i think many are so it would be very helpful if you make a new talking about tyranids with the new codex

  • Damn, I'd forgotten the new codex was coming out. You may just be getting me back into 40K, here. We'll see if Hive Fleet Chimera still holds up.

  • IM AN AMERICAN ! CHANGE SCARES ME!

    hahaha

  • I think that some of the options in the new codex are better than the 4th ed, but i think that they could have kept the carnifexes as beast solo units rather than weaken them and brood them up...

  • Its a love hate thing....Would love to test this at my RT

  • Though im kinda glad the codex is not complete cheese so not every member in our tournies are being them (being a Space wolf player i cant say much)

  • i really have to agree with you aux they have made a lot of changes. the only thing that you are going to need to do is pick the units that are the most use full. and just try and ignore the fact that they screwed up the codex

  • u will find a list that you like, it will grow on you... i hope.

  • I killed a trygon in one hit with a chaos scorcerer. :D

  • no you cant monsteuse creater can not my instant death!!!!!!!

  • I'm not even sure what you just said but all Monstrous Creature means is it's attacks ignore armor, it is relentless, and it has move through cover. THAT'S IT. Being a Tyranid now does not change that. Welcome to Instant Death vulnerability, like they should have. It's okay, it's not a big loss for the big things, just the "large" based creatures.

  • Lol Auxellion :) damn i missed ur videos

  • I own 8 carnifex's and now imm pissed.

  • @Sab531 you should use the ones you dont use to convert into the tervigon, Tyrannofex, or the harpy :)!

  • Yeah

    Zoanthrope lance weapons :0

    The mawloc is pretty dirty especialy imobilised vehicles.

    Spore pods!!!!!!!

    Nidzilla wont survive as a tactic.

    Bonesowrds rule.

  • I wasnt too happy at first bc i (like everyone else) played nidzilla...but now i think im gona play swarm wich seems fun so i think im happy with the codex

  • i love the phil kelly play style, but i am happy that with the new codex allows for real originality, but they are just not gonna work. i would say that 3 trigons will be the competetive lists. 3 trigons and a shit load of gaunts. i would say people should use 6 drop pod gaunt squads, 3 trigons, 2 drop pod hive tyrants with the anti tank ven cannon, and a load of zoanthropes. i read through and was thinking, okay, i need to get ready to fight that army. i hate the new codex as a nids player.

  • Tervigon is broken

    with 3 dice its hard not to roll doubles early in a game

  • no that makes it fair, and besides u still get to keep those three dice so your garentied at least one extra squad

  • Honestly, the codex really feels like the guard codex, and they play a little like guard

  • I agree Aux =( My friends nids are sad

  • Carni's got punked. They wanted everyone that had 5 carni's to buy 5 tevrigons. easy buck?

    Im hearing a lot of love on death leapers and spore corralling. also gargoyles are now cool. Swarm lords are ok. idk i like the codex as an opponent. its funneri know thats not a word) to play against

  • wish i could undo all my fex's to remake tevrigons and tyranofexes

  • with tervigons, just cut off their arms, give them big tummies and then just add scything tallons.

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  • this codex is awesome the last one was sooo dull only fielding carnifexes, hive tyrants,

    gaunts and genestealers it was boring

    stop complaining trygons arent that good, if you want deep strike 3 fexes instead

  • And pay how many more points... Oh yeah... Infact while were at it lets ask Marines not to use Lascannons and Orks just to shoot...

  • lol, im happy i started up marines and not nids for the holiday. lols, im winning every game with the marines. i only lost one game, and it was to nids, and he had a load of proxied tervigons, 5 to be exact, which is the max, and he put them in cover and had zoans and just kept on having his guys crap out gaunts. it was bases and he contested, while i only got one turn of movement. lol, thats what you gotta do to win i guess

  • no man, the trygon prime has an assault 12 gun, the ability to open up s tunnel for your guys to come in from, and then there are the drop pods. other than that, nothing really looks too good. i would only take a hive tyrant for lack of better HQ, though a swarmlord seems okay, he cant have tyrant guards.

  • The swarmlord can have Tyrant Guard. Check the Tyrant Guard entry, it says they can be bought for a Hive Tyrant OR Swarmlord.

  • I wish Phil Kelly wrote it. I don't like change...

  • Also, what is the techno song you're using in the background? Sounds awesome.

  • I don't own the codex yet, but I have read it. I'll have to agree with you on this one Aux, I don't particularly care for this new one, but it IS our 5th Edition Codex and we're either going to have to accept and adapt, like the Tyranids, or quit...and who wants to be a quitter? Not I, sir. :-P I'm still going to try to run my Carnifexes as they are and see what happens. I wish the new custom monsters had their own model kits though. :-\ Good first review though. See you on the hive.

  • Cruddace raped my Sniperfexes! :'(

    I agree with Helonion, though. We better get an amazing FAQ to redeem this crap.

  • Trygon=win

    Carnifex=Nerfed

    Zoanthrope=Improved Lots!

  • New option, go kick GW in the balls. That FAQ Better unfuck us.

  • "Phil Kelly knows how to write a Tyranid codex"

    O RLY?

    He made Tyranids an army which favours shooty monstrous creatures builds. Totally opposite from their fluff. D:<

  • But he made really cheap Carnifexs

  • That was the problem!

  • do u know if trygons or mawlocs are better?

  • So you'd rather play with this? No, I'd have 4th ed over this one ANY DAY! In fact I might just use 4th ed and tell anyone who doesn't like it to go complain to Cruddace for ruining 'Nids.

  • I have to bow down to the person with more expirence, but I've always made my gaming practices based around the denounced and unconventional. I really dont know how to take this whole denouncement of carnifexes, along with the crippled but now potentially more potent hormagaunts. I personally still like this codex, if only because of cheaper gaunts, and being a swarm player, that's my primary focus. Still, I am not sold on some of the new units.

  • But... I love my Carnifex's!... :o( I had to watch this video 3 times hopeing that what Aux was saying would change!

    Trygon is a very nice looking model.. As Aux said " Mine will look cool... ON MY SHELF!" ;(

  • rushed and fluff got changed, sounds like chaos space marines all over again

  • Sadly...

  • @Auxelli0n

    Haha, I got alot of remaking to do :P

  • Now if only they rush and fluff change Necrons, then all my 40K codexes will be awso...aww who am I kidding.

    ~Goes off to cry~

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  • zoanthrope warp lance is kickass though

  • this codex is kinda... meh

    it will really take some getting used to. i hate all of the overly expensive units however.  :/

  • I know man...

  • Did they make the Hormagaunt good!!??

    That would make up for everything.... Hormagaunts my favorite unit... never use them

  • Hormagaunts... have.... no.... Leaping....

    I'll cry with you as we bow our heads in silence

  • and gaunts have no without number.........:(

  • And Spinegaunts are the expensive ones...

  • THANK! my god thats the same why i felt! about gw trying to sale trygons, i didnt even bother buying the codex my heart sunk when i saw how much fexs were.

  • should i do tyranids or Grey Knights?

  • 0_o

  • sweet vid been waiting for you nids vids cart wait for the others

  • yeah they took most of the carnifex upgrades away... :(

  • And... made it more expensive...

  • yeh but it gets 2 extra attacks and bio plasma is a kickass ranged attack but mostly i agree with u

  • I find that it may be kinda week but the synergy of the army works ok. I beat down space wolves without really having to try in a 2,000 points game. The raveners rock in my opinion with 4 attacks each and 5 each on the charge. That with a bunch of trygons and hive tyrands... maybe some hormogaunts... I rocked them in close combat and laughed at jaws. Give it a shot and try different unit combos. You'll prolly learn to like it if you can get over the death of the carnifex.

  • Raveners do that in the old codex... and were still bad...

  • Yeah but now they seem to be more durable. I am finding them to be surprisingly effective against anything except large groups of orks,

  • i was half expecting tyranids to be the new overpowered space wolves but im glad to see it has its downfalls however im not happy to see the carnifex go down i really doubt many players will use them over like you said trygons been a necron and nid player myself i think its about time the necrons and dark eldar got a tad of attention from GW !

  • they are replaceng carnifex with trygon

    really a shame caus carni are cool lookinig models

  • Genarally, I think the new codex makes running a sucessful swarm more easily, Im gonna run the classic warriors,stealers,gaunts, carnifex and tyrants :), Lookin forward for the new Talkin about tyranids :)

  • What the hell am I gonna do with 6 Carnifex's.....

  • Mine will look cool, on my shelf.... and play APOC with them

  • yeah.the epicness of T.A.T is back

  • nice vid man :)

  • i love the start song and well i like what i hear and herd and woot i love it !

  • Epic

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