What Do U Know About Japanese Internment Camps During WWII?

[am220uss]

lets lay out some more facts -- The war relocation authority did not sieze the property of Japanese . It had no authority to do so. It offered to store or deliver their household goods to their new home. Many Japanese believed a rumor that they would be shipped back to japan and sold their belongings in a panic sale.

20 thousand asked to be shipped back to Japan. They did not get much for their stuff as millions were being drafted and had to sell at the same time, my father included .

[kookiezMILK]

@am220uss

that's incorrect. The Custodian of Alien Property did in fact sell the property of the Japanese in the internment camps. They sold them for only a fraction of what the property was worth.

[am220uss]

@kookiezMILK - I think you should check your source it sounds like you have been reading

about the Canadian internment of their entire Japanese population ( U.S. only interned its west coast Japanese ) The Canadians did take their posessions and sell them. Check it out and get back.

[kookiezMILK]

@am220uss

LOL, I thought that's what you were talking about what happened in Canada, not US....my baad. :P

[am220uss]

Lets lay out some facts. Under japanese law at that time all Japanese children born to japanese parents are Japanese citizens no matter where they were born.( same is true today for U.S.) 46,000 of those interned were born in Japan and were Japanese citizens the rest were their children who got U.S. citizenship because they were born here so the children had dual citizenship . The children were taken to prevent breaking up families and

leaving them without a means of support.

[Laughingblades]

They were concentration camps, those taken there never got out.

Most Germans had no idea of what the concentration camps were before the war ended, most thought that they were like the Hitler Youth Camps or labor camps where conditions were good and where people where taught to be good Germans. Many Germans volunteered to be sent there, only to be put on road construction, only some of the Nazis knew the grisly truth.

So why are these camps in the US being refurbished while German camps decay?

[EvilFingers]

A year ago, someone posted that there were Internment Camps for German and Italian Americans, there were never any such camps, only the Japanese Americans were forced to live in Internment Camps for the duration of WW2, also the same individual stated that there was no fear of Invasion on the East Coast, but there have been reports and sinking of Merchants that were sunk by German U-Boats patrolling up and down the East Coast during WW2 and none of that happened along the West Coast of the time.

[am220uss]

@EvilFingers - Germany could not invade the U.S. with only U boats, A U- boat just had enough room for its own crew. The german navy had lost most of its surface fleet before the U.S. entered the war and they had no aircraft carriers.The japanese had 11 carriers. A german invasion of the U.S. was impossible they could not even invade England. There were 9 japanese submarines operating off of our west coast at the time of the internment. There were only 6 u-boats on our East coast .

[EvilFingers]

@am220uss In a Nut Shell, Germany had alread invaded the US, and that Nazism was established in the United States during the 1930s, also American Born Nazis were being monitored by the US Government, during WW2.

[joe69rocket]

im not saying it was a good idea by any means, but in no way can you compare it the what the germans did to jews in the holocaust. not even the same thing! its rather ignorant to lump them together. people need to learn history. yes there were many bad things about these camps. i dont deny that, but holocaust.. omg are you effin serious?

[jockeyshortz84]

Can these stupid fucking kids speak without saying the word "LIKE" --I hate little half educated idiot college kids

[wafflecopter08]

wow shut the fuck up kid, stop being such a dick

[jockeyshortz84]

These stupid kids believe JApanese AMericans were tortured in internment camps--there were Japanese nationals and citizens who were caught spying for JApan--THese kids are fed drivel by leftist proffesors who gloss over JAPNS racist war against Europeans and the WEST.

[jockeyshortz84]

WHAT about the European and American internees in Asia who were horribly maltreated by the JApanese and to whom NO compensation was given--At least America fed and clothed them and gave them medical aid--It was in NO WAY "like the holocaust" -waht about JApan's blatant racism

[EvilFingers]

What do I know about Japanese Internment Camps during WWII?

Enough to know that 10 minutes away from where I live was the Site of such a Camp and the Site is now a Bustling Shopping Center called Taforan Shopping Center in San Bruno, Calif.

[wordandcharacter]

I'm from San Francisco, and I didn't know that, damn.

What I know is this. They put Japanese Americans in interment camps, but they didn't do the same to Italian Americans and German Americans. That says a lot in of itself.

[EvilFingers]

And before the area became an Interment Camp, it was a Horse Race Track, hence the Bronze Statue of Sea Biscuit that is sitting near the entrance of Tanforan.

As for the Italians and German Americans not being interned, Poltics and the Mafia were involved.

[NamVetBuck]

Yes , they did intern Italian & Germans. But remember , New yourk wasn't in danger of being invaded, the West Coast was.

[am220uss]

@wordandcharacter - You had better reread your history , germans and italians were interned sometimes

right next to Japanese. I think one of the camps where this happened was crystal river. Order 9066 applied to all enemy aliens

[am220uss]

protection of enemy aliens is required by the geneva conventions. How were we to protect them without some kind of relocation or internment? If we left the children (who were the american citizens

they are always bringing up) and they were beaten by school bullies we would be attacked for that. These people are just anti - American. We had to stop the espionage and protect them from harm How were we to do this and fight a war

at the same time? Give me a workable solution.

[dfgl1029]

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[NamVetBuck]

American internees in the Philippines were beaten , hung, raped , starved, shot, and beheaded...the non US citizens in the US camps HAD it easy ! The American citizens interned....that wasn't right. However, all of the Japanese Americans who got money from the US in repayment should demand that US citizens held by Japan get compensation for bieng inhumanely treated...fair is fair !

[sfourproductions]

Your logic to get compensation from Japan is just illogical. The Nisei got money because they were AMERICANS wrongly imprisoned by their country. Japan committed war crimes and the American soldiers were POW, not the same thing. With your logic, we would have to pay EVERYONE we may have done wrong during our Wars too... I DON'T THINK SO.

[NamVetBuck]

No, not illogical...the inhuman treatment that USA internees were subjected to should be compensated for BECAUSE they were victims of war crimes. Any Nisei that got cash from the US government was entitled to it, they were wrongly imprisoned, unless they belonged to subversive or disloyal groups. Japanese nationals {non US citizens} interned deserved no such payments, they were interned enemy aliens, and had no war crimes commited upon thier persons.

[sandform]

First, I have to point out, America violated the geneva convention by asking the Issei to renounce citizenship to Japan and become stateless.

But second, your argument hinges upon what the punishment for war crimes should be, and I really have no reason to argue with you over this since I don't have an opinion on the subject, but I do think the connection you're drawing between those who received reparations in the U.S. and what they should feel about U.S. prisoners is a faulty one.

[NamVetBuck]

Asking Japanese nationals to renounce thier citizenship to Japan is NOT a "violation of the Geneva Conventions"...FORCING them to do so is !

[sandform]

It isn't about renouncing citizenship, it is about becoming stateless, something the geneva convention strongly outlines against supporting in any way.

But besides that, what would you call telling people "sign this and we will let you leave, don't sign this and we will keep you here indefinitely" if not force? Is force to you only if someone holds a gun to their head?

[sandform]

If they would have let the Issei become Americans that would have been fine, but they didn't, and that was indeed a violation.

[NamVetBuck]

We were under no obligation to grant citizenship to enemy nationals....period. Had they signed, and been deported, the League of Nations had already set up a program for "Nansen" pasports for stateless persons.

As for requesting signing, that is merely negotiating, not forcing. Suggest you research methods used by the Japanese military and Secret police...now THERE'S "force" for you !

We used NO such methods.

[sfourproductions]

What are you talking about? We are talking about America Imprisoning it's own citizens. You and Formless777 doesn't seem to get it.

The Japanese treated the foreigners during WW2 as P.O.W.s, what they did was wrong and covered under War Crimes. The Japanese Americans got repayment for being wrongly imprisoned by their own government. You seem to view the Nisei as not Americans, since you keep comparing their situation to that of what happened in the Philippines and elsewhere.

[sandform]

I agree completely, although I would also pose the question of whether or not NamVetBuck believes we should pay the Italians and the Germans for interning their nationals.

We completely trampled all over the Civil Rights of Japanese Americans, how some people can disregard this is beyond me.

[NamVetBuck]

If you are referring to German and Italian citizens held during the war as enemy aliens...nope. What should have been done is either repatriate them to thier country of origin, or they have no rights to recover losses if they chose to stay in US custody out of fear of returning to thier home country. The US citizens held by Japan were never given that option, and we had sent home a number of Japanese nationals via neutral shipping.

[Inokea]

Think about who authors the history books used in school here and who teaches it. They just sweep this injustice under the rug to try and bury it, just like the illegal seizure and overthrow of the nation of Hawai'i. PEOPLE, Hawai'i was invaded and stolen, they didn't 'become' a state.

[Ultraoutlaw98]

My professor new someone who had a sister in a camp. She said she saw an old woman stand by one of the barbwire fences and when they watchmen told her to move away she didnt(maybe cuz she didnt hear or she was kinda out of it in the head), but anyways when she didnt move they just shot her. Pretty messed up.

[am220uss]

Sad story but probably just a story. Could

your professor verify it and give more details. In my many years of researching these camps I have never heard of a woman

being shot in this manor.

[pelicanblotter]

This is more than a bit sad. I learned about the internment camps in elementary, middle, and high school, so I am stunned at the lack of information these people could offer. Then again, I also attended military base schools due to my dad. As against the military and fighting most people are, I can honestly say that I've benefitted from being around bases since they have some of the most mixed populations so it's almost impossible to not learn the whole truth.

[TVNews14]

There's a bigger question no one is addressing...why are Jap women so damn ugly? Jeeezis.

[ewalk04]

Why do I keep running into you and your ignorance TVNews14... I kno you are old and stuck in your ways... But you and your racist, prejudice, and bigot ways are gonna make you bust Hell wide open...

Anyway... To the Poster of this video... It was very informative... I like learnin real history... And not this "text book" history they teach us... Like one of the interviewees said "... Swept under the rug..." is absolutely correct...

[am220uss]

These videos are not the place to learn real

history. Try reading some of the many books

on the subject , may I suggest Admiral Leytons book "and I was There" or David Lowmans book " magic" or "Farewell to

Manzanar if you want to put together a accurate picture of the camps, why the were set up and WWII espionage.

espionage

[formless777]

Anyone who says the Japanese in US internment was like the holocaust has NO F***ING IDEA ! Yes there is an argument that internment was unnecessary for the USA's Japanese population and its probably true. Now compare what happened in US internment camps to what the Japanese did to captured civilians in their camps... So, would you rather a mildly unpleasant low security detention, or systematic rape and forced labor on starvation rations ? The USA was very lenient.

[Inokea]

Very lenient to imprison it's own citizens and let them lose everything they worked so hard for? Amazing arrogance. Perhaps if we ever fight with a country of your ethnicity we should imprison you and your family (and everyone else of the same ethnicity) and let you have two suitcases or two garbage bags worth of personal belongings and let fate deal with your house, business, etc. well I guess you're fine with that so it wouldn't matter right?

[formless777]

Still, compared to what Japan's internment camps for Europeans were like, the Japanese Americans got off VERY lightly. Yes, they lost many of their material possessions, but they weren't turned into sexual playthings and tortured by their captors. Of course you may not have a problem with that ?

[Inokea]

I'm American, we're talking about Americans being imprisoned not what happened overseas. Why not talk about what's happening right now in your lifetime in Africa? Millions being slaughtered in these modern times. What does that have to do with the internment of Americans? Nothing, just like your European topic.

[Inokea]

Then again the Europeans got off lightly compared to the Koreans, Chinese, Filipinos and others in occupied areas but you don't care about that right? Again nothing to do with the internment so no sense in bringing it up. This is a discussion about AMERICAN INTERNMENT.

[formless777]

Of course I care. It is definitely true that European civilians weren't used for biological weapons testing or slave labor like say, the Chinese. The policy of US internment grew out of espionage carried out by US Citizens of German & Austrian extraction during WW1. It was a substitute for non-existent US counter-intelligence resources. Plus Jim Crow was still alive and well & the civilian population of the USA would happily have lynched the Japanese. Internment was also protection in a way

[Inokea]

"Crow was still alive and well & the civilian population of the USA would happily have lynched the Japanese. Internment was also protection in a way" I've had this discussion before with certain people from states outside of the west coast and I guess it makes them feel better to say the exact same thing. It is an incorrect assumption to think mass lynchings would have occurred as many of the Japanese community had been here for many years.

[formless777]

The issue of mass lynchings was a distinct possibility warded off by internment. As the war continued and the casualties began to mount and reports were coming in about Japanese atrocities the general feeling in the USA was that the Japanese were not human. Wrong of course, but emotions were running high and hatred and grief can easily make people very dangerous. Still, the primary reason for the internment was fear of espionage and sabotage based of WW1 experiences.

[am220uss]

@formless777 There were allot more things pointing toward the fact japanese were

disloyal , magic intercepts, niihau incident , what the japanese aliens who were living in

the Philippines did when the Japanese army invaded ( almost all went over to the japanese)

and I can name many more. While in the camps 20,000 applied to be sent back to Japan

They attacked and beat those they t hought loyal to the U.S. killng several. There was no

other choice

[formless777]

@am220uss

Lets face facts. Being Japanese in the USA during WW2 would have been an invidious position. No doubt there were 5th column elements in the USA, definitely in the Philippines. On the other hand there were a great many US citizens of Japanese extraction who fought bravely for the USA. These situations are seldom black and white, normally they're grey... and sticky. I do think the US government should have done more to guarantee interned citizens' property though.

[Inokea]

It would have not happened as some non-minorities like to romanticize about. I don't know anyone who would prefer your idea of protection versus living free in their own home. Sure Jim Crow was still around and many of the people and politicians who supported it are around today, they slip up every now and then and spout their pent up ideals. Are you from one of those states in between the coasts?

[alfredoAqua]

There is an amazing documentary coming to the LA area called Passing Poston. It is a film that covers the Japanese internment camps during WWII. Passing Poston follows four former detainees and exposes their heart-wrenching pasts.

The film is being screened on July 11th till July 17th at the ImaginAsian Center in LA. Its a must see!!!

[ussam220]

When viewed in the time frame of 1941 to 1945

It was not a big thing. Only about 45000 adults were concerned and only a handful died. Remember we put 16 million in uniform and some estimates say 100 million died during this time. Also, enemy aliens were interned by all countries at war. It is now considered more important because those viewing it now are judging by todays standards laws and morality.

[koji187]

what kind of college is this? honestly some of these people are fucking stupid.. here if you want a quick lesson on the history of manzanar, listen to kenji by mike shinoda

[koji187]

1:58, 2:57, and 3:45 those ppl actually knew something! unlike the two retarded bitches in the beginning, internment camp come on.. they could use a vague answer by pulling something outta their ass, isn't this video in a college? why is everyone fucking retarded??? that bitch on the left in the beginning was completely speechless and dumbfounded by the question, at least the on on the right tried, ahahah hilarious hey mr :43 big words there buddy, learn to use them fucking dumbshit hahahahah

[unholydoragon]

i say it was necessary to promote the US going into the war with Japan. Without these internment camps, we might not have gone into the war, we needed the war for economy, and help justice by nuking the damn japs

[hgn12599]

"Japs" hmm say that to a Japanese American person and likely you will get one or the things:Slap or beat down. Must be your upbringing, who am I to judge Unholydragon. It's like the N word for Black people or K word for Jewish people.

"History repeats itself."

Does the American or for that matter any countries are teaching correct history so we do not have a repeat of that including the Japanese?Have we learned anything?Idk, only time will tell.

Executive order = Patriots Act

Nuff said.

[unholydoragon]

hgn12599: Wow, you responded to one word in my reponse.

And second of all, I refuse to say that to any Japanese American while I am unarmed.

[DinoDom26]

All these kids are different races and yet they are all VERY AMERICAN lol So much for racism eh?

[mykalroze]

I agree, it's bad that so many people don't know about this part of American history. I've long known that it seems the majority of Americans don't know much about the internment of Japanese-Americans. And even the people interviewed who do seem to know generally about it, seem shaky on what exactly happened. Seems most American know "Karate Kid" and that's about the extent of what they "know" about Japanese-Americans.

[flo001]

In response to this, I think some Americans DO know what happened to Japanese-Americans. Just because they didn't give dates and specifics doesn't mean they don't know ANYTHING about it. Americans as a whole aren't History majors you know. Give them a break.

I think some of them gave pretty good responses just on the top of their heads. The last time I took World History was maybe 5 years ago in high school and I bet most of these Americans are the same way.

[mykalroze]

yes, some do know about it, and, yes, in many ways, most Americans don't know much about history in general. the media's also responsible, as it tends to focus on the same historical events, year after year, while not giving much airtime to even things that are going on right now. Also, some of those students were just plain wrong, sounding like they were just making things up.

[mattjay503]

Its scary and sad how many people had no idea this happened.

[hgn12599]

I can bet if you can ask about the holocaust, there would be more then as oppossed "uh" "um".  My point: There are really few or close to none about the topic of internment camp for movies.

[lordash69]

The black chick is smart!! ^_^

[kurisutaru7389]

people in these camps were so hungry that they grabbed pieces of food out of other peoples poop and washed it off hten ate it. People got worms and they would crallout of their noses and rectums:( so scary!

[Goemon80]

Japanese tried to liberate Asian in WWII from sucked whity colonical policy! Keep in mind!

[LemonySucksIt]

"Keep in mind" Manila and Nanjing jackass. Thousands raped and murdered.

[ilikemyneonbandaids]

@LemonySucksIt The Japanese Military was responsible for Nanjing and Manila. The Japanese Internment Camps took innocent American citizens of Japanese Descent and forced them into camps because of their race. In a country built on freedom and equality for all, the situation is completely different.