I grew up as a catholic, but no longer am a believer, but even so having been dragged to a friends bapist church and hearing various stories they have told me, im ASTOUNDED at how much power the pastor has over the congregations individual lives. People are told not to come to church (for a period) if they have been found to be sinning, other members are told not to talk to that person, and also the average worshipers entire life/social network revolves around the church and the people there.
@Richdavt this was at odds at what the catholic church was the priest would never have got involved in our person business in such a way, and you was free to come and go to the church as you wished. In this church the idea of going to the church and sit at the back quietly to worship was out of the question. Various people would try to 'befriend' you and know your circumstances (as well as probably judge you) then probably welcome you or not to the church.This to me is so dangerous
Oh were to begin. Evolution it true, that a fact because we can tell through t dino fossils. but to say that means that God isn't true is a lie. and to pinpoint all Christian on one group's beleifs is a load of crap. almost every Christian group has different beleifs, and that doesn't matter. because as long as they believe that Jesus in our diven saviour and God is our creator and follow jesus; they're going to heaven.
English language was never Latin, for the record. Modern English as we know it did evolve from former Germanic idioms mostly and there was some Latin vocabulatory that went into it (but French was considerably more important lexically and overall, thanks to the Norman influence after the conquest). Your point still stands but your example is not correct
Yes, animals adapt to their environment (or the animals that can't cope die off or elsewhere to more suitable climates), but they don't change into a different animal. The fossil record verifies that. Apparently some species or kinds didn't evolve AT ALL over millions of years.... Shouldn't there be some transitional creatures between apes and humans be alive today? Why did the entire range of transitions die out?
@joroma77 By the way, at the end of your "ramble" your true nature, your hatred for God shines through. And that's why you have embraced evolution and made this video.
Well, you seem to have accepted the notion that the earth is billions of years old. Any particular reasons why? Other than starlight... Radio-metric dating works, but keep in mind that the amount of C14 in the atmosphere is currently increasing, which suggests that there was less of it in the past. That would give unreliable ages. Atheist scientists assume that the rate has been virtually stable throughout time. You also assume that the stars represent solar systems, which has not been proven.
You should understand clearly why people get saved. They have been hypnotized to fear, and moreover they have been trained to seek organized religion as a solution to that fear. It is a self-contained, yet illogical and cruel, reasoning system designed by the keepers of information to subjugate and exploit a mass. That is why the Catholic church is the largest landowner in the World.
i see your point. you are very smart but see if you had a friend that was made your friend and he/she could never leave your side it wouldn't be as rewarding as having someone choose you to be their friend and always stay by your side. and to answer you question about creation. he did create us perfect. but adam eve with the apple has made the world what it is today with sin and sorrow in the world. when you give someone free will. its CYA, it is our fault that we act the way we do.
Positive attitudes can also stop people fighting to change their situations; Opium of the masses and all that jazz. Good analogies; with the arm thing, the arm isn't long enough to represent time on earth we'd be the last few cells on the fingernails. Christians believe the world is 6000 years old by working their way back from Jesus to Adam; if it's not in the bible it's not true for them. A cause outside time is absurd; a personal cause doubly so. One that cares about us? LOL
Now if you all believe in Math. The odds from any of the prophecies were so high that it would look like this. If I took a quater and placed it in the State Of Texas any where that I wanted, then I would blind fold you and tell you to find the quater that Placed in the State. What would be odds for you to find it? It would take you INFINITE to find it. Dr. Ross an Astrophysicist said " 1 in 100000000000 let me stop there because it is suppose to be 2000 zeros. Now that is Inspirational Evidence!
Smart Kid, but lacks due to deception. First, if you try to understand God by our little peanut brain you will never know God. Do you believe in math? The Books in the bible were written 100's and at times 1000's of years from one to another. What I mean is that the writer or author (Micah, Peter, Daniel, Ezekiel, etc)did not know eachother. Genesis was written around 1450 B.C Ezekiel around 593 B.C. These books give testimony about what was to come.
Whose choice is it to behave atrociously? Are there not logical and foreseeable outcomes for behaviors? If I behave badly, I guess it is I who have chosen to do so. God didn't make me do it. You didn't make me do it. My kids didn't make me do it. I made the choice, and I will suffer the consequences.... it just follows.
Yes, but god has foreseeable (even more so than humans) consequences to his actions too! He chose to create the universe and he knew when he made it, since he is all-knowing, that he was going to have to kill off almost the entire human race... yet he is all good? if he loves us wouldn't he be more apt to create us in such a way where we wouldn't piss him off so much... or at least found it in his loving heart to find some other non-genocidal way of punishing us?
Again, to KNOW something before it happens, is not to make it happen. In the context of theology, the creator knows the choices of the created, and the outcome of those choices. I suppose, theologically speaking, he could choose not to create, but that presents it's onw set of problems.
couldn't he have also chosen to create a different world... one in which would set the circumstances so he could, if not prevent them from disobeying him, prevent himself from having to wipe out the entire race with a massive flood?
From the standpoint of theology, the destruction of man in the flood story was a logical outcome of his own behavior.
A few minutes ago I was in state prison. I was interacting with people who had chosen to violate society's law. In some cases, society has said, 'because of your behavior, you'll forfeit 1/2 of your life'. On a smaller, yet no less ominous scale these people are suffering the logical outcome of their behavior.
True, but god created humans knowing full well that he would end up drowning all but one family of them, this just sounds sadistic to me if he could have easily just created a universe in which humans would not behave so atrociously.
That you question is good. Your inquiry will lead to learning. To use your terminology... YOU will evolve.
Now, as to the fungus on your arm & the humans on your fingernails; the "Big Bang" is a theory, as is evolution. A practical demonstration of either theory is impossible. For the BB, you can only infer from evidence of something that happened, well, beyond the end of your arm. As to evolution, it would require a realllly long longitudinal study that would span millenia ~ unlikely.
Again, the fact that you question is excellent.. so many people refuse to do so. As to Christianity, may I ask how much source material you have read? Not, comtemporary junk, but philosophical, theological & historical material. Over the last several thousand years, there have been some things said that are useful... even today.
As to your eventual conclusions... those are yours. No one has a right to attack you. There is nothing to be gained by attacking.
The theory of evolution is not perfect, neither is the big bang theory. However, there is a lot more evidence for them than creationism. This is partly because creationists don't need evidence outside the bible, because the bible says the bible's true, so why look for any evidence!!?!?
Why should evidence frighten the "theist"? It is only elaboration of basics that are already known. I can see where it might be disquieting to the devotees of the scientific method... after all, to be relegated to the status of re-discovering the work of another... kind of ego deflating...
so, in effect, you're saying that there is no evidence against creationism only evidence that proves it? That may be true if you look at the evidence with a preconceived notion of what is the divine truth and anything that goes against that has to be wrong.
"in effect, you're saying that there is no evidence against creationism only evidence that proves it"?
No. Only one of the two impossible condition related to the Big Bang and Evolution applies to what you call "creationism". "Creationism" cannot be reproduced; it won't lend itself to a longitudinal study. There is no objective evidence of creationism, and I can't go back and ask to be present, if it indeed happened that way it is currently presented. Cont.
Please note that the notion of "objective evidence" is a double edged sword. It is appropriate and useful in some venues, particularly where observable material lends itself to measurement and analysis (sometimes science), and useless in others, i.e. matters not observable & reproducible, for example feeling, emotions etc as in my discipline, individual & group psychotherapy. The same holds true, I suspect, for matters related to philosophy and theology.
ok, i'll go with you on that one. However, that still doesn't make the story that the judeo-christian god created the universe any more plausible to me
We, as humans, have our own "free will" which is independent of each other. But when god comes into the equation it falls apart. An omniscient creator would have known exactly what was going to happen with his creation when he created it. Yet, for an inexplicable reason he needs vengeance on humans for things we did when he created us knowing we'd do it... Someone who is better at science can explain why free will is even impossible in a secular view
What's stopping you from believing in God? What's stopping you from believing that He would want a personal relationship with us? Is it that impossible?
I respect that answer. As a Christian on youtube, my goal isnt to go and convert every athiest here, but what I want to try to do is prove that Christianity makes sense. Looking forward to some more vids.
As for life on other planets. Bear in mind there is only one area in each solar system where life can be possible. It has to be a specific distance away from the sun otherwise no water will form on the planet and life will be impossible. Secondly, the statistical improbability of life forming randomly is probably the biggest reason i believe in a Creator. Scientists in labs can't even create life the same way it would have been created back then, what are the odds it couldve been done randomly?
haha, I guess. But if you think about it, if there is a Creator, that means theres a 100% chance of life forming, or in other words a 1 in 1 chance. Due to the fact that God can either exist or not exist, the chances of Creation is 1 in 2, while the chances of life forming randomly is like 1 in 10^5,200. The odds are in my favor.
Just to comment a little on your post-evolutionary portion of your video. Christianity is not just confined to the southern US. Christianity is the number 1 religion in the world (in followers) encompassing almost all of north AND south america, along with europe and australia and parts of africa. And as for why we think we know the will of the Creator...we wouldnt know God unless he wanted himself known. Why wouldnt a Creator reveal himself to his creation?
Just think about all the fossilized humans that we've found in the last thousand years. The people of Mt. Vesupious (thats not correct spelling but the name evades me)are just one example. Now your going to tell me that over millions of years, we cant find any half ape, half man people? We should be finding hundreds of them! The missing link problem is another lack of visual proof
To further elaborate. It supposedly took millions of years for apes to evolve into humans. Are we supposed to believe that they all evolved at the same time? Why wasnt there any late groups of apes that started evolving? Because if there were, they'd still be finishing up the evolution process. then we wouldnt be having this debate cause there'd be visual proof.
Back to dating. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way radiometric dating works is by testing the decomposition of a certain substance in the rock, right? Well, I've heard the argument that we have no way of knowing the rate of decomposition for large timespans and its a lot of guesswork. I dont know, this is what I've read concerning radiometric dating. But now I have a question for you...Why aren't there any half-ape half-me walking around today,or why havent any been found in the fossil record?
The problem is the geologic column was made by evolutionists based off the rock layers so theres circular reasoning that occurs between a fossil, the rock layers, and the geologic column. They all verify eachother, which means even if something is false, it can be verified due to the fact that its set up so they build off of eachother.
Well it's almost impossible to observe evolution happening because even if you go back to the very beginning of the species homosapien, there hasn't been that much evolution... it takes a lot longer than humans have even been alive? But if something can make little changes over short periods of time why is it so hard to believe that over almost unimaginably vast periods of time the changes would be profound?
i agree that its a valid hypothesis. But the problem is that its nothing more than that. There is no proof that we can just randomly create new data in our offspring. Even if the earth is millions of years old, there is no solid or visual evidence to say that a feline would eventually give birth to something other than a feline.
As for radiometric dating, thats not my specialty. But I do believe that a scientist often gets several different reading from radiometric dating, and what they do is match it up with the geologic column to see which reading corresponds with the time that particular fossil would have lived.
A cat will always give birth to a cat, no matter how diffent it is, it will always be a cat. I know we differ here, but honestly, how can new information just develope in a system. For example, how in the world did the eye evolve? Ask any evolutionist and they'll tell you that there is absolutely no progression that they can make for how eyes appeared. Yes, we have proof all around us for evolution within species, but we have never witnessed or seen anything change from one species to another.
Now for your evolution statement.Obviously, the whole 'why dont apes give birth to humans' point is idiotic. And yes, if a different group is isolated and put through a different climate, they may evolve WITHIN their own species. For example, you look at domesticated cats and wild cats and you can tell some evolution occurred due to environment. But here's where we differ. There is no proof that a species will actually evolve enough into a different species.
If we just go back to the Bible, back to Jesus, and abandon these nonsensical rituals,custums,and formalities, some of these problems would not exist.
With that being said, I'll repeat that religion run by errant men has its faults. Many people in the church shun questions and tell people not to question there faith. That couldn't be farther from the truth, because if you dont question your faith, then it becomes a blind faith. Your following it by what other people say, and not what you discover for yourself. This kind of close mindedness is dangerous and wrong.
As for it being difficult to leave, I can definitely see where you're coming from. And I dont doubt that there aren't any controlling people in the church, but I believe that if someone was afraid to leave the faith, it would be because they would be afraid of what people would think of them. That's obviously a personal thing and not anyone's fault but their own.
As for the second part of your first statement. I actually agree with a lot of this. But I believe the blame falls on man-made religion and not the Bible and Jesus' teachings. First off, the Bible says it's ok to doubt or question and it also commands us to study our faith so that we can know and defend what we believe. James 1:6 also makes a good point though. It's ok to doubt, but you ultimately need something to believe in, otherwise you'll just be blown around by the smoothest talker.
To further elaborate on your first point. When your at your lowest point, your weakness is exposed, at least to yourself. Jesus does give that positive attitude because you have purpose in life. There's a God who loves you and knows you personally who wants to have a relationship with you. A God who would die for you in spite of everything you've done. It's a message of hope and love that people who are in despair can especially enjoy.
well I can't argue with you there. Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to be a tad more moderate than yokeup or venomfangx... and those people were who this particular video was directed at. Attacking moderate christianity, is harder and takes more thought but there are reasons why it is useless if not dangerous. I will address these in later videos.
Well I'd have to wait for your videos, but right off the bat I wouldnt say believing in Jesus is useless. Jesus taught to love your enemies as yourself, to do good unto others, and to respect yourself. The morals that Jesus teaches are good morals, and for his followers, we strive to live by those moral standard, because Christ called us to do so. This standard of living and the hope that Jesus mentioned before are just a few examples of why it cant be completely useless.
Well you covered a lot in this video and I felt, as a Christian, I should at least give a response. First, you talk about how people turn to Jesus in times of darkness in their lives. All I can say is that people turn to Jesus for many, many reasons, and I dont even believe the one you gave is the main one, but ill still make a comment on it. It's easier to feel in control and that you can do it on your own when things are going good. It's when things get tough that you realize you need help.
Yea because the world became what it is from a small atom exploding in outerspace out of nowhere. LOL.
lapatria100 2 months ago
I grew up as a catholic, but no longer am a believer, but even so having been dragged to a friends bapist church and hearing various stories they have told me, im ASTOUNDED at how much power the pastor has over the congregations individual lives. People are told not to come to church (for a period) if they have been found to be sinning, other members are told not to talk to that person, and also the average worshipers entire life/social network revolves around the church and the people there.
Richdavt 7 months ago
@Richdavt this was at odds at what the catholic church was the priest would never have got involved in our person business in such a way, and you was free to come and go to the church as you wished. In this church the idea of going to the church and sit at the back quietly to worship was out of the question. Various people would try to 'befriend' you and know your circumstances (as well as probably judge you) then probably welcome you or not to the church.This to me is so dangerous
Richdavt 7 months ago
Wow. This guy is still in he 20's and has it all figured out. Genius!
horseman528 10 months ago
Oh were to begin. Evolution it true, that a fact because we can tell through t dino fossils. but to say that means that God isn't true is a lie. and to pinpoint all Christian on one group's beleifs is a load of crap. almost every Christian group has different beleifs, and that doesn't matter. because as long as they believe that Jesus in our diven saviour and God is our creator and follow jesus; they're going to heaven.
24mjs 1 year ago
English language was never Latin, for the record. Modern English as we know it did evolve from former Germanic idioms mostly and there was some Latin vocabulatory that went into it (but French was considerably more important lexically and overall, thanks to the Norman influence after the conquest). Your point still stands but your example is not correct
Nocturnalux 1 year ago
Yes, animals adapt to their environment (or the animals that can't cope die off or elsewhere to more suitable climates), but they don't change into a different animal. The fossil record verifies that. Apparently some species or kinds didn't evolve AT ALL over millions of years.... Shouldn't there be some transitional creatures between apes and humans be alive today? Why did the entire range of transitions die out?
joroma77 1 year ago
@joroma77 By the way, at the end of your "ramble" your true nature, your hatred for God shines through. And that's why you have embraced evolution and made this video.
joroma77 1 year ago
Well, you seem to have accepted the notion that the earth is billions of years old. Any particular reasons why? Other than starlight... Radio-metric dating works, but keep in mind that the amount of C14 in the atmosphere is currently increasing, which suggests that there was less of it in the past. That would give unreliable ages. Atheist scientists assume that the rate has been virtually stable throughout time. You also assume that the stars represent solar systems, which has not been proven.
joroma77 1 year ago
You should understand clearly why people get saved. They have been hypnotized to fear, and moreover they have been trained to seek organized religion as a solution to that fear. It is a self-contained, yet illogical and cruel, reasoning system designed by the keepers of information to subjugate and exploit a mass. That is why the Catholic church is the largest landowner in the World.
mateogalandesoto 1 year ago
i see your point. you are very smart but see if you had a friend that was made your friend and he/she could never leave your side it wouldn't be as rewarding as having someone choose you to be their friend and always stay by your side. and to answer you question about creation. he did create us perfect. but adam eve with the apple has made the world what it is today with sin and sorrow in the world. when you give someone free will. its CYA, it is our fault that we act the way we do.
FozzieBair 2 years ago
Positive attitudes can also stop people fighting to change their situations; Opium of the masses and all that jazz. Good analogies; with the arm thing, the arm isn't long enough to represent time on earth we'd be the last few cells on the fingernails. Christians believe the world is 6000 years old by working their way back from Jesus to Adam; if it's not in the bible it's not true for them. A cause outside time is absurd; a personal cause doubly so. One that cares about us? LOL
unassumption 2 years ago
Now if you all believe in Math. The odds from any of the prophecies were so high that it would look like this. If I took a quater and placed it in the State Of Texas any where that I wanted, then I would blind fold you and tell you to find the quater that Placed in the State. What would be odds for you to find it? It would take you INFINITE to find it. Dr. Ross an Astrophysicist said " 1 in 100000000000 let me stop there because it is suppose to be 2000 zeros. Now that is Inspirational Evidence!
delmaroeb 3 years ago
Smart Kid, but lacks due to deception. First, if you try to understand God by our little peanut brain you will never know God. Do you believe in math? The Books in the bible were written 100's and at times 1000's of years from one to another. What I mean is that the writer or author (Micah, Peter, Daniel, Ezekiel, etc)did not know eachother. Genesis was written around 1450 B.C Ezekiel around 593 B.C. These books give testimony about what was to come.
delmaroeb 3 years ago
Dude Christianity is based on a lot of pagan religions. if you do believe in the bible why do people celebrate Christmas in Dec 25.
Jews became christians
christians Became Muslims
Muslims Became Sikhs
Theirs a new profit every 200 years roughly
Look at the truth maybe they have a point. Maybe theirs only one god. But i doubt that theirs that many Jesus's
The Bible that you think was written by Jesus was actually written by the Romans to Control People.
jakle52 2 years ago 2
Good video, Good points that are well made...
"they always get you when you're down"
jonocasley 3 years ago
Good vid, you're a smart guy with his own opinion, and I agree with you. Nice job.
JassiusJay 3 years ago
Whose choice is it to behave atrociously? Are there not logical and foreseeable outcomes for behaviors? If I behave badly, I guess it is I who have chosen to do so. God didn't make me do it. You didn't make me do it. My kids didn't make me do it. I made the choice, and I will suffer the consequences.... it just follows.
Billyothon 3 years ago
Yes, but god has foreseeable (even more so than humans) consequences to his actions too! He chose to create the universe and he knew when he made it, since he is all-knowing, that he was going to have to kill off almost the entire human race... yet he is all good? if he loves us wouldn't he be more apt to create us in such a way where we wouldn't piss him off so much... or at least found it in his loving heart to find some other non-genocidal way of punishing us?
Tweek617 3 years ago
Again, to KNOW something before it happens, is not to make it happen. In the context of theology, the creator knows the choices of the created, and the outcome of those choices. I suppose, theologically speaking, he could choose not to create, but that presents it's onw set of problems.
Billyothon 3 years ago
couldn't he have also chosen to create a different world... one in which would set the circumstances so he could, if not prevent them from disobeying him, prevent himself from having to wipe out the entire race with a massive flood?
Tweek617 3 years ago
From the standpoint of theology, the destruction of man in the flood story was a logical outcome of his own behavior.
A few minutes ago I was in state prison. I was interacting with people who had chosen to violate society's law. In some cases, society has said, 'because of your behavior, you'll forfeit 1/2 of your life'. On a smaller, yet no less ominous scale these people are suffering the logical outcome of their behavior.
Grim in either story.
Billyothon 3 years ago
True, but god created humans knowing full well that he would end up drowning all but one family of them, this just sounds sadistic to me if he could have easily just created a universe in which humans would not behave so atrociously.
Tweek617 3 years ago
That you question is good. Your inquiry will lead to learning. To use your terminology... YOU will evolve.
Now, as to the fungus on your arm & the humans on your fingernails; the "Big Bang" is a theory, as is evolution. A practical demonstration of either theory is impossible. For the BB, you can only infer from evidence of something that happened, well, beyond the end of your arm. As to evolution, it would require a realllly long longitudinal study that would span millenia ~ unlikely.
Billyothon 3 years ago
Again, the fact that you question is excellent.. so many people refuse to do so. As to Christianity, may I ask how much source material you have read? Not, comtemporary junk, but philosophical, theological & historical material. Over the last several thousand years, there have been some things said that are useful... even today.
As to your eventual conclusions... those are yours. No one has a right to attack you. There is nothing to be gained by attacking.
Keep up the good work, sir.
Billyothon 3 years ago
The theory of evolution is not perfect, neither is the big bang theory. However, there is a lot more evidence for them than creationism. This is partly because creationists don't need evidence outside the bible, because the bible says the bible's true, so why look for any evidence!!?!?
Tweek617 3 years ago
Why should evidence frighten the "theist"? It is only elaboration of basics that are already known. I can see where it might be disquieting to the devotees of the scientific method... after all, to be relegated to the status of re-discovering the work of another... kind of ego deflating...
Billyothon 3 years ago
so, in effect, you're saying that there is no evidence against creationism only evidence that proves it? That may be true if you look at the evidence with a preconceived notion of what is the divine truth and anything that goes against that has to be wrong.
Tweek617 3 years ago
"in effect, you're saying that there is no evidence against creationism only evidence that proves it"?
No. Only one of the two impossible condition related to the Big Bang and Evolution applies to what you call "creationism". "Creationism" cannot be reproduced; it won't lend itself to a longitudinal study. There is no objective evidence of creationism, and I can't go back and ask to be present, if it indeed happened that way it is currently presented. Cont.
Billyothon 3 years ago
Please note that the notion of "objective evidence" is a double edged sword. It is appropriate and useful in some venues, particularly where observable material lends itself to measurement and analysis (sometimes science), and useless in others, i.e. matters not observable & reproducible, for example feeling, emotions etc as in my discipline, individual & group psychotherapy. The same holds true, I suspect, for matters related to philosophy and theology.
Billyothon 3 years ago
ok, i'll go with you on that one. However, that still doesn't make the story that the judeo-christian god created the universe any more plausible to me
Tweek617 3 years ago
And that is ok.
Billyothon 3 years ago
"Faith" is a function of the mind. It cannot be forced, any more that a belief in the scientific method can.
There is nothing to be gained by trying to force someone to believe either. THAT is a function of free will ;)
Billyothon 3 years ago
We, as humans, have our own "free will" which is independent of each other. But when god comes into the equation it falls apart. An omniscient creator would have known exactly what was going to happen with his creation when he created it. Yet, for an inexplicable reason he needs vengeance on humans for things we did when he created us knowing we'd do it... Someone who is better at science can explain why free will is even impossible in a secular view
Tweek617 3 years ago
Well, I think I responded to the majority of the video. Oh, I cant forget the title:
"Are you sure Jesus loves me?"
Yes I am. (Rev. 3:20)(Rom. 5:8)(John 20:29)
What's stopping you from believing in God? What's stopping you from believing that He would want a personal relationship with us? Is it that impossible?
Guffguy 4 years ago
it's not impossible, just hard to believe
Tweek617 4 years ago
it's not impossible, just hard to believe
Tweek617 4 years ago
it's not impossible, just hard to believe
Tweek617 4 years ago
I respect that answer. As a Christian on youtube, my goal isnt to go and convert every athiest here, but what I want to try to do is prove that Christianity makes sense. Looking forward to some more vids.
Guffguy 4 years ago
As for life on other planets. Bear in mind there is only one area in each solar system where life can be possible. It has to be a specific distance away from the sun otherwise no water will form on the planet and life will be impossible. Secondly, the statistical improbability of life forming randomly is probably the biggest reason i believe in a Creator. Scientists in labs can't even create life the same way it would have been created back then, what are the odds it couldve been done randomly?
Guffguy 4 years ago
the same odds that it was created by a man in the sky i think
Tweek617 4 years ago
the same odds that it was created by a man in the sky i think
Tweek617 4 years ago
the same odds that it was created by a man in the sky i think
Tweek617 4 years ago
haha, I guess. But if you think about it, if there is a Creator, that means theres a 100% chance of life forming, or in other words a 1 in 1 chance. Due to the fact that God can either exist or not exist, the chances of Creation is 1 in 2, while the chances of life forming randomly is like 1 in 10^5,200. The odds are in my favor.
Guffguy 4 years ago
Just to comment a little on your post-evolutionary portion of your video. Christianity is not just confined to the southern US. Christianity is the number 1 religion in the world (in followers) encompassing almost all of north AND south america, along with europe and australia and parts of africa. And as for why we think we know the will of the Creator...we wouldnt know God unless he wanted himself known. Why wouldnt a Creator reveal himself to his creation?
Guffguy 4 years ago
Just think about all the fossilized humans that we've found in the last thousand years. The people of Mt. Vesupious (thats not correct spelling but the name evades me)are just one example. Now your going to tell me that over millions of years, we cant find any half ape, half man people? We should be finding hundreds of them! The missing link problem is another lack of visual proof
Guffguy 4 years ago
To further elaborate. It supposedly took millions of years for apes to evolve into humans. Are we supposed to believe that they all evolved at the same time? Why wasnt there any late groups of apes that started evolving? Because if there were, they'd still be finishing up the evolution process. then we wouldnt be having this debate cause there'd be visual proof.
Guffguy 4 years ago
Back to dating. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way radiometric dating works is by testing the decomposition of a certain substance in the rock, right? Well, I've heard the argument that we have no way of knowing the rate of decomposition for large timespans and its a lot of guesswork. I dont know, this is what I've read concerning radiometric dating. But now I have a question for you...Why aren't there any half-ape half-me walking around today,or why havent any been found in the fossil record?
Guffguy 4 years ago
The problem is the geologic column was made by evolutionists based off the rock layers so theres circular reasoning that occurs between a fossil, the rock layers, and the geologic column. They all verify eachother, which means even if something is false, it can be verified due to the fact that its set up so they build off of eachother.
Guffguy 4 years ago
Well it's almost impossible to observe evolution happening because even if you go back to the very beginning of the species homosapien, there hasn't been that much evolution... it takes a lot longer than humans have even been alive? But if something can make little changes over short periods of time why is it so hard to believe that over almost unimaginably vast periods of time the changes would be profound?
Tweek617 4 years ago
i agree that its a valid hypothesis. But the problem is that its nothing more than that. There is no proof that we can just randomly create new data in our offspring. Even if the earth is millions of years old, there is no solid or visual evidence to say that a feline would eventually give birth to something other than a feline.
Guffguy 4 years ago
As for radiometric dating, thats not my specialty. But I do believe that a scientist often gets several different reading from radiometric dating, and what they do is match it up with the geologic column to see which reading corresponds with the time that particular fossil would have lived.
Guffguy 4 years ago
A cat will always give birth to a cat, no matter how diffent it is, it will always be a cat. I know we differ here, but honestly, how can new information just develope in a system. For example, how in the world did the eye evolve? Ask any evolutionist and they'll tell you that there is absolutely no progression that they can make for how eyes appeared. Yes, we have proof all around us for evolution within species, but we have never witnessed or seen anything change from one species to another.
Guffguy 4 years ago
Now for your evolution statement.Obviously, the whole 'why dont apes give birth to humans' point is idiotic. And yes, if a different group is isolated and put through a different climate, they may evolve WITHIN their own species. For example, you look at domesticated cats and wild cats and you can tell some evolution occurred due to environment. But here's where we differ. There is no proof that a species will actually evolve enough into a different species.
Guffguy 4 years ago
If we just go back to the Bible, back to Jesus, and abandon these nonsensical rituals,custums,and formalities, some of these problems would not exist.
Guffguy 4 years ago
With that being said, I'll repeat that religion run by errant men has its faults. Many people in the church shun questions and tell people not to question there faith. That couldn't be farther from the truth, because if you dont question your faith, then it becomes a blind faith. Your following it by what other people say, and not what you discover for yourself. This kind of close mindedness is dangerous and wrong.
Guffguy 4 years ago
As for it being difficult to leave, I can definitely see where you're coming from. And I dont doubt that there aren't any controlling people in the church, but I believe that if someone was afraid to leave the faith, it would be because they would be afraid of what people would think of them. That's obviously a personal thing and not anyone's fault but their own.
Guffguy 4 years ago
As for the second part of your first statement. I actually agree with a lot of this. But I believe the blame falls on man-made religion and not the Bible and Jesus' teachings. First off, the Bible says it's ok to doubt or question and it also commands us to study our faith so that we can know and defend what we believe. James 1:6 also makes a good point though. It's ok to doubt, but you ultimately need something to believe in, otherwise you'll just be blown around by the smoothest talker.
Guffguy 4 years ago
To further elaborate on your first point. When your at your lowest point, your weakness is exposed, at least to yourself. Jesus does give that positive attitude because you have purpose in life. There's a God who loves you and knows you personally who wants to have a relationship with you. A God who would die for you in spite of everything you've done. It's a message of hope and love that people who are in despair can especially enjoy.
Guffguy 4 years ago
well I can't argue with you there. Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to be a tad more moderate than yokeup or venomfangx... and those people were who this particular video was directed at. Attacking moderate christianity, is harder and takes more thought but there are reasons why it is useless if not dangerous. I will address these in later videos.
Tweek617 4 years ago
Well I'd have to wait for your videos, but right off the bat I wouldnt say believing in Jesus is useless. Jesus taught to love your enemies as yourself, to do good unto others, and to respect yourself. The morals that Jesus teaches are good morals, and for his followers, we strive to live by those moral standard, because Christ called us to do so. This standard of living and the hope that Jesus mentioned before are just a few examples of why it cant be completely useless.
Guffguy 4 years ago
Well you covered a lot in this video and I felt, as a Christian, I should at least give a response. First, you talk about how people turn to Jesus in times of darkness in their lives. All I can say is that people turn to Jesus for many, many reasons, and I dont even believe the one you gave is the main one, but ill still make a comment on it. It's easier to feel in control and that you can do it on your own when things are going good. It's when things get tough that you realize you need help.
Guffguy 4 years ago