ILoveZapRowsdower - and possessed of 12 Michelin stars and worth even after closing restaurants, 100 million USD. and he isn't so dead he spends time on youtube boards obsessing over cooking programs. you idiot are DONE.
rasmey or heston's stock... hmmm? i think ramsey's looks easier, but i've got a feeling heston with his science would probably come out on top on this one (how to cook like heston - chicken - 13.00 ). think i'll go for ramsey's one this time, i dont have an abundance of chicken wings or milk powder
Were people really arguing about Chef John from foodwishes being better than Ramsay.. come on. Ramsay is a chef, John is an entertainer. Ramsay invented hundreds of recipes, John just cooks stuff up. Yes, it's entertaining of course, he has to make money off youtube, Ramsay doesn't, he gets mad on his shows because when his chefs mess up he is loosing money. Atleast Ramsay doesn't say he's "half-Italian" like John does. I'm Italian and John can't cook our shit. Ramsay does it way better, period.
@BoyBetterKnow94 just because ramsay is really known doesn't mean hes the best cook. ramsay is obviously known and famous for his attitude. chef john is actually more popular then ramsay on youtube, watch his videos, hes a great chef!
@Camil2221 I'm glad you said that :-) Thumbs up for chef John :-) I bet his TV programmes would be succesfull but I prefer to "save him" only on YT, just for us. ;-)
@BoyBetterKnow94 chef john's videos are much better if you want to learn how to cook. ramsay may be better but his videos are shit when compared to thos on foodwishes
@BoyBetterKnow94 I think Ramsay is the man, but don't chide Chef John. He's obviously not as good a restauranteur like Ramsay, but equally entertaining to watch on YouTube!
@BoyBetterKnow94 Ramsey is a good tv persona, doesn't mean he is the best chef ever. He is famous for rage attacks and swearing on tv, but his restaurant bankrupted.
i'm not saying he is a bad chef, i'm just saying being a TV sweetheart does not make you a chef of the century.
@KnowledgeAddicted well...that might be true except he has three michelin stars to his name...which is an incredibly rare feat. He's also worked under incredibly famous chefs from marco pierre white to joel rubochon so his pedigree is also top notch. While its true he is famous mostly for his angry personality, his reputation as a chef is one of the best in the world and among a very small but elite class of chefs.
@TheInfernal36 Elite class of chefs doesn't mean much, it's just the same as you were saying that oxford have the brightest people on this planet, when in fact they are just pompous pricks with loads of cash and connections that let them to study in oxford.
It's just a food, you can use creme fraiche and fancy spices, but at the bottom line, meat will always be meat and potatoes will always be potatoes, and u don't need to be an university professor to learn how to cook them tasty.
@KnowledgeAddicted idk if i agree with what you said. It comes down to what skills you want to learn and want to acquire. Sure, an average person can theoretically learn anything, but he has to want to acquire those skills. Cooking is the same way. It takes time, energy, good management, and lots of other skills to be a great chef. There are thousands of cooks but only a handful of extremely successful chefs. That isn't luck or money, its certain skulls it took to rise to the top.
@KnowledgeAddicted i should also add...food is much more than the way you describe. I like cooking as a hobby and there are so many things i don't know or understand about it. Sure, food is food per se, but understanding things like pairing, flavor combos, perfect cooking, the right techniques, when you are overreaching, and then the molecular gastronomy stuff...i might rather stick with econometrics instead(which is what i study).
@KnowledgeAddicted You have it all wrong... Ramsay uses good quality plain ingredients rarely anything fancy or elite. He has said many times the true test of a good cook is being able to prepare something in an excellent way out of the lower cuts of meat and readily available ingredients. Just watch his shows and you see that one of his most common complaints about chefs having problems is that they try to get to fancy and get away from the basics.
@Antiks72 See, if you watched his shows you would know thats not true. Being a good chef is not at all about using elite and expensive ingredients exclusively. Just watch hells kitchen often times when he is evaluating the skill levels of the particular restuarants chefs he'll give them something like beef tongue or oxtail to work with. In general I find the folks that criticize Ramsay obviously don't watch his shows much they see his personality and immediately don't like him.
@1overthehillsfaraway I have watched plenty of his stuff to know that he's using great quality ingredients. What do you call the filet mignon he uses to make beef Wellington? Don't be stupid.
@Antiks72 Well what do you expect he is a world class chef? I'm not stupid I like watching cooking shows and watching all of Ramsays shows I find highly entertaining. He helps people. He knows how to cook and run a successful restaurant. Haven't you seen his shows where he states and demonstrates that the true test of a good chef is preparing a good meal from the poor cuts and cheap ingredients? I have this is why I respect him.
@1overthehillsfaraway I'm not saying he's a bad chef. An asshole yes, but a very good chef. It's not secret that cooking with cheap ingredients can produce some excellent food. A good example of this is the cheaper cuts of chicken like legs and thighs with the skin on and bone in. Ditto for braised beef as well.
@KnowledgeAddicted He's very well-known as one of the best chefs in the world. Anthony Bourdain says the same. He's obviously an impatient and driven man: he can't even be bothered to put a list of ingredients on his videos. No, he expects YOU to be able to do that --- and why shouldn't you do some of the work?
@BoyBetterKnow94 both Foodwishes and Ramsay are good, and they are different. Ramsay is a restauranteur, and John is an instructor who goes slower, but is more informative than Ramsay.
@Antiks72 at the end of the day, does it really matter who was trained by who, and what? Food and cooking is a way of appealing to people who are being served. Both have gone through the training at culinary school/restaurants that allow them to appeal to people through food, and have the full qualifications and abilities to do that.
@BoyBetterKnow94 Agreed, Ramsay is phenomenal. But do check out Chef John Mitzewich at foodwishes. Most of his recipes are easier to do and he is quite wonderful.
@galgulator Then why are you watching these videos then? I see fanboys when it concerns cars, technology and games but now fanboyism concerning trained chefs?
@7477238 I'm not fanboy, or in my case, fungirl. I like cooking and I find a lot of inspiration here, on YT. Last weekend I was looking for a duck recipe so I got here and there. Of course I'm familiar with Ramsay's programmes, I watched them few times - horror. Always pissed off, shouting at these poor people. Where's the joy of cooking? Where's the happiness of giving food to others? I love watching foodwishes - pure happines and mouthwatering :-) And I recommend cookingwithdog too :-)
@galgulator Well, if you wonder where Ramsay's love and joy for cooking is, I'm happy to tell you it's all over youtube. Just skip the Kitchen Nightmares and Hell's Kitchen and watch some recipes if you like (I find the longer versions the most enjoyable). Greetings.
@galgulator God you sound like a Liberal, everything has to be all flowers and roses. Gordon Ramsay inspires a ton of people and credits them when they work hard and produce good food. Watch Kitchen Nightmares or pretty much any of the shows he stars in, what she shows is passion and somewhat done for entertainment value. You can't get to the top being nice, you have to be rough and tough, he owns successful restaurants and has tons of great shows on TV and it's not by playing Mr. Nice Guy.
@7477238 Ramsay is rough and tough because he is paid for that, because people love watching him wiping the floor with others. Since ancient Rome the majority enjoyed watching shows of cruelty and violence, Now it is the same mechanism, only in white gloves.
And BTW his chicken stock is as cloudy and muddy as my aunt's cataracte. Mine is like crystal in this comparison.
@SwissCheeseInOurEyes yep.... typical GordonRamsayish reply, when you don't have an argument in discussion and you don't know what to say. How could I expect something more creative from a person like you.
@galgulator Im a big fan of Chef John, but he is not on the same level as Ramsay,... This has 13 michelin stars.. that says something about him.. he is FUCKIN unbeatable !
@MasterEBeats I think cooking is not sport, something that can be measured and classified. It's just what you preffer, what is appealing and mouthwatering for you. My granda didn't have michelin stars but she was the best of the best cooks for me and my family. I don't like rivalisation and competitions on cooking, just fun, people you love, food you like.
@galgulator I agree his videos explain the recipe better but i am convinced Ramsay's dishes are a million times better... I love Chef John too though :D
One thing you can do to add color is cut an onion in half and slowly char both halves on their flat sides in a dry pan on low heat for awhile. The char will not add effect the flavor adversely but will add a lovely brown color to your stock. I learned this from a professional chef.
i'm with marco pierre white and the knorr ready stocks... sure this might be more "real" and tastier, but i'm a poor student living in the real world...
Then get the whole chicken for a good price and cut the meat off. You will be left with the carcass for your stock and you will have all the meat to cook with. Can't get any cheaper then that.
Fuck, I'd just let that boil for 2 hours and eat that as a soup :- P
BrettMiller33 2 days ago
Made Heston's mate - nothing special. this is a better stock and far more aromatic.
caesarcerf 2 days ago
ILoveZapRowsdower - and possessed of 12 Michelin stars and worth even after closing restaurants, 100 million USD. and he isn't so dead he spends time on youtube boards obsessing over cooking programs. you idiot are DONE.
caesarcerf 2 days ago
Marco Piere White would use Knorr stock cube
dd410 5 days ago
2:54
It still looks cloudy to me dip shit.
VoreTechz1985 1 week ago
He's the Billy Mays of cooking.... loud, full of cocaine, and dead on the inside.
ILoveZapRowsdower 2 weeks ago
i also really like the no reservation cooking tv program
ftlptba 2 weeks ago
rasmey or heston's stock... hmmm? i think ramsey's looks easier, but i've got a feeling heston with his science would probably come out on top on this one (how to cook like heston - chicken - 13.00 ). think i'll go for ramsey's one this time, i dont have an abundance of chicken wings or milk powder
tranc3r2012 2 weeks ago
step one cocaine...
horuskin 2 weeks ago 13
gordon ramsay = beast.
omartron 3 weeks ago
Still looks cloudy, just saying
DWarrior4 1 month ago 2
he is so jumpy! does he have to go to the loo
Masterbad921 1 month ago 15
@Masterbad921 hes a world class chef I dont think he even has the time to go to the loo
mushroomshuffler 1 month ago
he looks constipated! Lol
aehraiza 1 month ago
chef john who?? Ransey has 3 michelin stars to his name..... wind your neck in son. DONE!
lloydymk 1 month ago
Chef John is a gorilla hiding in a video . . .
whatdapakq 1 month ago
only for 30 minutes? Wow! I've been cooking for 2-3 hours and still I have thought it was not enough w t f !
comeonewtf 1 month ago
@comeonewtf hahaha i know right i use to fucking have it on low for like 5h like a dumb ass lol
TheDoncruz11 1 month ago
Were people really arguing about Chef John from foodwishes being better than Ramsay.. come on. Ramsay is a chef, John is an entertainer. Ramsay invented hundreds of recipes, John just cooks stuff up. Yes, it's entertaining of course, he has to make money off youtube, Ramsay doesn't, he gets mad on his shows because when his chefs mess up he is loosing money. Atleast Ramsay doesn't say he's "half-Italian" like John does. I'm Italian and John can't cook our shit. Ramsay does it way better, period.
JoesPlaying 2 months ago
He hops around like he has to take a wicked piss.
inglesvalencia 2 months ago
Is the chicken carcass raw? Or the leftovers from a cooked chicken??
bleewicket 2 months ago
@bleewicket Raw :)
xxCrucifyMe 2 months ago
@bleewicket its raw mate, you make a stock when taking the meat off the carcass
olbas2 2 months ago in playlist Liked videos
Gotta love how Gordon Ramsay holds everything like it's a bomb.
ZeRo2545 2 months ago
why he add salt ? isn't it not allowed>
ongaudrey 2 months ago
@ongaudrey What?? its not allowed to cook WITHOUT salt.
1overthehillsfaraway 2 months ago
I will try this stock on Sunday this week! Thank You Chef Ramsay!
khenaleak 2 months ago
I did exactly the same and the stock is amazing good! Its easy to do and a great taste
Thanks You Chef Ramsay!
vliegendehollander55 2 months ago
pfft, ramsay's stock is really cloudy. i know my chefs would kill people for less.
mahorosan1 3 months ago
im not saying that its bad but i doubt the intensity of the chicken stock... maybe cos im chinese
JOkaiQ 3 months ago
I love Chef Ramsey, but he was wrong for not washing his raw chicken hands. He knows better than to cross-contaminate like that.
cocobrownallaround 3 months ago
@cocobrownallaround it is edited out, as you can see when he is cutting the onion hes hands are clean and aren't dripping of chicken juices ;)
junkrat1 3 months ago
@junkrat1 I sure would hope so, but I've seen some people on tv cooking with raw meat and they don't always wash their hands.
cocobrownallaround 3 months ago
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Chef John for foodwishes is MUCH MUCH better to watch and I bet that his meals are better too.
galgulator 3 months ago
@galgulator lmao gordan ramsay is one of the best chefs in the world i highly doubt this so called chef john's meals are better
BoyBetterKnow94 3 months ago 29
@BoyBetterKnow94 just because ramsay is really known doesn't mean hes the best cook. ramsay is obviously known and famous for his attitude. chef john is actually more popular then ramsay on youtube, watch his videos, hes a great chef!
Camil2221 3 months ago
@Camil2221 I'm glad you said that :-) Thumbs up for chef John :-) I bet his TV programmes would be succesfull but I prefer to "save him" only on YT, just for us. ;-)
galgulator 3 months ago
@BoyBetterKnow94 chef john's videos are much better if you want to learn how to cook. ramsay may be better but his videos are shit when compared to thos on foodwishes
polterzzzzzzzz 3 months ago
@BoyBetterKnow94 I think Ramsay is the man, but don't chide Chef John. He's obviously not as good a restauranteur like Ramsay, but equally entertaining to watch on YouTube!
comfortablesofa 2 months ago
@BoyBetterKnow94 they're not,they are just simpler
of course simpler recipe looks better to watch,there's like no ingredient
with ramsay,you got a whole list of tasty and vibrant ingredients
there is nothing more satisfying than successfully cooking one of ramsay's recipees
Alxmir23 2 months ago
@BoyBetterKnow94 Ramsey is a good tv persona, doesn't mean he is the best chef ever. He is famous for rage attacks and swearing on tv, but his restaurant bankrupted.
i'm not saying he is a bad chef, i'm just saying being a TV sweetheart does not make you a chef of the century.
KnowledgeAddicted 2 months ago
@KnowledgeAddicted well...that might be true except he has three michelin stars to his name...which is an incredibly rare feat. He's also worked under incredibly famous chefs from marco pierre white to joel rubochon so his pedigree is also top notch. While its true he is famous mostly for his angry personality, his reputation as a chef is one of the best in the world and among a very small but elite class of chefs.
TheInfernal36 2 months ago
@TheInfernal36 Elite class of chefs doesn't mean much, it's just the same as you were saying that oxford have the brightest people on this planet, when in fact they are just pompous pricks with loads of cash and connections that let them to study in oxford.
It's just a food, you can use creme fraiche and fancy spices, but at the bottom line, meat will always be meat and potatoes will always be potatoes, and u don't need to be an university professor to learn how to cook them tasty.
KnowledgeAddicted 2 months ago
@KnowledgeAddicted idk if i agree with what you said. It comes down to what skills you want to learn and want to acquire. Sure, an average person can theoretically learn anything, but he has to want to acquire those skills. Cooking is the same way. It takes time, energy, good management, and lots of other skills to be a great chef. There are thousands of cooks but only a handful of extremely successful chefs. That isn't luck or money, its certain skulls it took to rise to the top.
TheInfernal36 2 months ago
@KnowledgeAddicted i should also add...food is much more than the way you describe. I like cooking as a hobby and there are so many things i don't know or understand about it. Sure, food is food per se, but understanding things like pairing, flavor combos, perfect cooking, the right techniques, when you are overreaching, and then the molecular gastronomy stuff...i might rather stick with econometrics instead(which is what i study).
TheInfernal36 2 months ago
@KnowledgeAddicted You have it all wrong... Ramsay uses good quality plain ingredients rarely anything fancy or elite. He has said many times the true test of a good cook is being able to prepare something in an excellent way out of the lower cuts of meat and readily available ingredients. Just watch his shows and you see that one of his most common complaints about chefs having problems is that they try to get to fancy and get away from the basics.
1overthehillsfaraway 2 months ago
@1overthehillsfaraway Are you kidding me? Have you seen the cuts of beef he uses? Top quality. LOL
Antiks72 2 months ago
@Antiks72 See, if you watched his shows you would know thats not true. Being a good chef is not at all about using elite and expensive ingredients exclusively. Just watch hells kitchen often times when he is evaluating the skill levels of the particular restuarants chefs he'll give them something like beef tongue or oxtail to work with. In general I find the folks that criticize Ramsay obviously don't watch his shows much they see his personality and immediately don't like him.
1overthehillsfaraway 2 months ago
@1overthehillsfaraway I have watched plenty of his stuff to know that he's using great quality ingredients. What do you call the filet mignon he uses to make beef Wellington? Don't be stupid.
Antiks72 2 months ago
@Antiks72 Well what do you expect he is a world class chef? I'm not stupid I like watching cooking shows and watching all of Ramsays shows I find highly entertaining. He helps people. He knows how to cook and run a successful restaurant. Haven't you seen his shows where he states and demonstrates that the true test of a good chef is preparing a good meal from the poor cuts and cheap ingredients? I have this is why I respect him.
1overthehillsfaraway 2 months ago
@1overthehillsfaraway I'm not saying he's a bad chef. An asshole yes, but a very good chef. It's not secret that cooking with cheap ingredients can produce some excellent food. A good example of this is the cheaper cuts of chicken like legs and thighs with the skin on and bone in. Ditto for braised beef as well.
Antiks72 2 months ago
@KnowledgeAddicted He's very well-known as one of the best chefs in the world. Anthony Bourdain says the same. He's obviously an impatient and driven man: he can't even be bothered to put a list of ingredients on his videos. No, he expects YOU to be able to do that --- and why shouldn't you do some of the work?
henrycate 2 months ago
@BoyBetterKnow94 super chef bobby flay is the master and hes not a big ass hole
joshgearey 2 months ago
@BoyBetterKnow94 both Foodwishes and Ramsay are good, and they are different. Ramsay is a restauranteur, and John is an instructor who goes slower, but is more informative than Ramsay.
qingian 2 months ago
@qingian John isn't a French-trained chef either, whereas Ramsay is.
Antiks72 2 months ago
@Antiks72 at the end of the day, does it really matter who was trained by who, and what? Food and cooking is a way of appealing to people who are being served. Both have gone through the training at culinary school/restaurants that allow them to appeal to people through food, and have the full qualifications and abilities to do that.
qingian 2 months ago
@BoyBetterKnow94 Agreed, Ramsay is phenomenal. But do check out Chef John Mitzewich at foodwishes. Most of his recipes are easier to do and he is quite wonderful.
ianman6 2 months ago
@BoyBetterKnow94 In all fairness, Chef John is pretty good, nice video style as well. Gordon is of course better on a technical basis however.
vonkeonig 1 month ago
@BoyBetterKnow94 Wow hold up, I love Gordon as much as the next man but do not be talking shit about the one and only Chef John!
MrChannelPromo 1 month ago 3
@BoyBetterKnow94 they are
Shanongao 2 weeks ago
@galgulator Then why are you watching these videos then? I see fanboys when it concerns cars, technology and games but now fanboyism concerning trained chefs?
7477238 3 months ago
@7477238 I'm not fanboy, or in my case, fungirl. I like cooking and I find a lot of inspiration here, on YT. Last weekend I was looking for a duck recipe so I got here and there. Of course I'm familiar with Ramsay's programmes, I watched them few times - horror. Always pissed off, shouting at these poor people. Where's the joy of cooking? Where's the happiness of giving food to others? I love watching foodwishes - pure happines and mouthwatering :-) And I recommend cookingwithdog too :-)
galgulator 3 months ago
@galgulator Well, if you wonder where Ramsay's love and joy for cooking is, I'm happy to tell you it's all over youtube. Just skip the Kitchen Nightmares and Hell's Kitchen and watch some recipes if you like (I find the longer versions the most enjoyable). Greetings.
samenzwering 3 months ago
@galgulator God you sound like a Liberal, everything has to be all flowers and roses. Gordon Ramsay inspires a ton of people and credits them when they work hard and produce good food. Watch Kitchen Nightmares or pretty much any of the shows he stars in, what she shows is passion and somewhat done for entertainment value. You can't get to the top being nice, you have to be rough and tough, he owns successful restaurants and has tons of great shows on TV and it's not by playing Mr. Nice Guy.
7477238 3 months ago
@7477238 Ramsay is rough and tough because he is paid for that, because people love watching him wiping the floor with others. Since ancient Rome the majority enjoyed watching shows of cruelty and violence, Now it is the same mechanism, only in white gloves.
And BTW his chicken stock is as cloudy and muddy as my aunt's cataracte. Mine is like crystal in this comparison.
galgulator 3 months ago
@galgulator Lol you reminded me of my Aunt's cooking, not a good memory either.
7477238 3 months ago
@7477238 What the hell does being a liberal have to do with this? lol...
BMReaves1 3 months ago
@galgulator You...are...an...idiot.
SwissCheeseInOurEyes 3 months ago
@SwissCheeseInOurEyes yep.... typical GordonRamsayish reply, when you don't have an argument in discussion and you don't know what to say. How could I expect something more creative from a person like you.
galgulator 3 months ago
@galgulator I think chef john from foodwishes is great but he is no way near the level gordon ramsay is at.
Zetsubou12345 2 months ago
@galgulator Im a big fan of Chef John, but he is not on the same level as Ramsay,... This has 13 michelin stars.. that says something about him.. he is FUCKIN unbeatable !
MasterEBeats 2 months ago
@MasterEBeats I think cooking is not sport, something that can be measured and classified. It's just what you preffer, what is appealing and mouthwatering for you. My granda didn't have michelin stars but she was the best of the best cooks for me and my family. I don't like rivalisation and competitions on cooking, just fun, people you love, food you like.
galgulator 2 months ago
@galgulator ps. And it is chef Jonh whose meals I'd be happy to eat not Ramsay.
galgulator 2 months ago
@galgulator yeah.. but i would never question a chef like gordon... hes awesome!!
MasterEBeats 2 months ago
@galgulator dude I'm a fan of Chef John AND Gordon Ramsay and can tell you Chef John is nowhere near Gordon Ramsey's level.
KHRSace 2 months ago
@galgulator I agree his videos explain the recipe better but i am convinced Ramsay's dishes are a million times better... I love Chef John too though :D
designator99 2 months ago
@galgulator no way! Gordon Ramsay is the man!
1overthehillsfaraway 2 months ago
@galgulator Chef John is a faggot.
fuckvegan 1 month ago
@galgulator with you all the way buddy
MrChannelPromo 1 month ago
Chef Ramsey is a great cook but he makes me dizzy watching him cook with all his jerky motions and banging he does in all his videos.
puggychu 3 months ago
One thing you can do to add color is cut an onion in half and slowly char both halves on their flat sides in a dry pan on low heat for awhile. The char will not add effect the flavor adversely but will add a lovely brown color to your stock. I learned this from a professional chef.
awwwyeaboyeeee 3 months ago
@awwwyeaboyeeee sounds like a nice tip, thanks
JK7457 3 months ago
you dont have to peel off the onion, skin of onion gives a great a flavor as well.
TheShitfack 3 months ago
@Chnamanjx celery is used to make a mirepoix which makes the stock flavorful & aromatic.
KabigtingRady 3 months ago
Why is celery used? I didn't know it had flavor, I thought celery's job is to absorb flavor and give texture.
Chnamanjx 3 months ago
@Chnamanjx yes it has flavour it makes the stock taste refreshing
BoyBetterKnow94 3 months ago 10
@Chnamanjx celery has a lot of flavor especially the tops. Put a piece in your mouth and chew it up to see.
1overthehillsfaraway 2 months ago
@Chnamanjx Celery has strong flavour when cooked.
ianman6 2 months ago
@Chnamanjx Onion, carrot and celery is called mirepoix, it's a classic french combination and is used as a base for thousands of dishes.
MrChannelPromo 1 month ago
Do I have to use it all when it's fresh or can I for example froze it for later use?
borus1987 4 months ago
@borus1987 yes you can freeze it my advice would be to pour in into ice cube trays then you have little stock cubes :)
BoyBetterKnow94 4 months ago 3
@BoyBetterKnow94 Wouldent you have to reduce it BIGTIME? because little stock cubes made from unreduced stock would be HELLA weak!
Gooseman2k2 3 months ago
If I want to make a beef stock, will I use a whole carcass of a cow? #LOL
FourthPersonView 4 months ago
@FourthPersonView you will need beef bones , celary , carrots and onions
BoyBetterKnow94 4 months ago
@BoyBetterKnow94
where do you get beef bones?
Metsada007 4 months ago
@Metsada007 local butcher
BoyBetterKnow94 4 months ago in playlist Gordon Ramsay
@FourthPersonView idiot...
Oxydow276 4 months ago
i'm with marco pierre white and the knorr ready stocks... sure this might be more "real" and tastier, but i'm a poor student living in the real world...
aakkoin 5 months ago
@aakkoin
Then get the whole chicken for a good price and cut the meat off. You will be left with the carcass for your stock and you will have all the meat to cook with. Can't get any cheaper then that.
Skylinux 5 months ago
i love gordon but its an awfully cloudy looking chicken stock
87MrTimbob 5 months ago
@87MrTimbob i wonder why... But anyway - i've tried his way to do it and it was amazing !!!
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