SOPA Debate: Wikipedia's Jimmy Wales in Discussion with Copyright Alliance's Sandra Aistars

[ibanezjev]

This is all about greed - greedy people in hollywood and in the music industry. If the Pirate Bay was based in America and Hollywood was in, for example, Zimbabwe, I wonder if this would play out the same way?

[Reborn8303]

Jimmy Wales is an ass Wikipedia's adds are full of incorrect information ! Then he says o woo is me we need money please send us money ! fuck you Jimmy whales !

[CoolaWaspen]

@Reborn8303 The reason the information can be incorrect is because anyone can write on there. Every one is aware of that and he doesn't claim it all to be correct.

[Seidkhonis]

Sandra Aistars is representing for cash. She got alot of money to represent. Artists.. not really she is representing people and corporations that make way more money then most people. They are not poor even with piracy, so imagine without it.

[DarkAbyssAdept]

ademas de las constantes privatizaciones, cada vez hay menos...

Es un cachondeo.

[DarkAbyssAdept]

A ver si estamos...

Suben los precios.

No hay trabajo.

Destruyen las descargas de internet.

Y destruir encima la enciclopedia Libre?

Los responsables intentan provocar al mundo? a ver que pasa?

[DarkAbyssAdept]

A ver que va a pasar ya, dejarnos en paz de una vez, ahora encima la wikipedia? que pasa con vuestra puta cara?

[MEpianist]

Sandra Aistars DOX NOW!

[PrtuguesePride]

and then the bad guys are the hollywood starts,, the record labels, the artists.. everyone is pointing the finger into artists this days, because they "intend" to take "their freedom" their "free internet"... thouse bastards that make milions and bla bla bla...

whata foking shamless human trash we are making with all this internet, because obviosly you all miss that most of the artists this days dont even live from their work... because of YOU!! you want to consume their work, but not pay it...

[PrtuguesePride]

its obvious that piracy will never end, since everyone wants it... since everyone will ever stand against anything that goes against it... they will easly follow any kind of propaganda made by hackers, pro-piracy movements and any inviduals that make money from this kind of situation... what?? do you think guys from pirate bay have that site for helping people acessing things for free?? your wrong... PIRATEBAY is making money from warez, they are actualy an example of it... SHAME ON YOU

[ApathyPersonified]

@PrtuguesePride "PIRATEBAY is making money from warez" Stop lying you faggot. TPB make money from the advertising, not the torrents. 

[PrtuguesePride]

@ApathyPersonified inst that the same you morron??? they make good money from advertising because literaly they have millions of visits each day because they provide piracy content,they wouldnt make money from advertising without it... its like megaupload or rapidshare, they have suposly a "serious" and legit bisness, but its sustained by piracy mostly... so they are making money from a wrong process... its like a mob or mafia... and dont call me faggot! your an idiot not me

[PrtuguesePride]

you are kind of funny when you say "piracy its not about stealling, piracy is about sharing"

sharing?? sharin my ass... do you know what share means??? sharing actually means that your are giving someone something that cost you or was dificult to you to reach, when you share pirated stuff.. it didnt cost you nothing...

wel... if you people enjoy so much to share... why dont you share your salary?? or money?? do you share your money with me?? offcourse not... HUMANS = HIPOCRITES

[ApathyPersonified]

@PrtuguesePride "sharing actually means that your are giving someone something that cost you or was dificult to you to reach" Sharing doesn't mean that. You're a bitch. Learn what words mean before you use them. The people you're crying about aren't hypocrites.

[PrtuguesePride]

we are entering into a reality where everyone uploads shity stuff to youtube in a new "LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME syndrome" because every idiot belives his a good enterteiner or as good artist as others... and because of this, because of this anarchy and NONSENSE reality that excessive freedom (YES... INTERNET TODAY IS EXCESSIVLY FREE) some very cruel and unfair things happen.. because HUMAN beings are tipicaly selfish and take benifit for whatever situation rules... like slavery ruled centuries ago

[PrtuguesePride]

in the future artists will not release their music, they will keep their music for their own and only in exclusivity for their shows... because they will realise there is no purpose in release music, they will realise that is better for them to keep their music safe from others to steal... and it will happen the same with movies... in the future probably there will be no releases as DVD or blue ray, only cinema.. because producers will realize theere is no point to sell anyone individual goods

[PrtuguesePride]

the fact everybody stays like hipocrites agaisnt a law that intends to prevent piracy, just shows that everyone in fact wants piracy, even wikipedia sites, or google, are pro-piracy, because actually piracy is what motivates people too use internet, since they can acess anything for free... YES this is why everyone loves NET, because one WEB you are all millionares... on WEB you can have everything... but guess what... someday there will be no good music, no good movies... no good nothing...

[PrtuguesePride]

what you all guys want is to keep using warez and downloading movies for free, you are all selfish.. the thing about wikipedia and facebook is just a hoax to say "noo they shouldnt take our freedoom" what freedoom??? the freedoom of you stealing midia contents??? of using them for free when the artists took time to create?? you people are shameless... you people are hipocrite and totaly unfair with people that create original stuff... because not every artist is rich, its their survival...

[motionolover]

sandra - bitc.. of hollywood companies

[Sparkle1189]

SOPA: Stupid Old People of America.

Thumb up if you agree!

[EmoandSkaterNeverDie]

So much fucking problems, more humans need to bound their souls with nature, big business fuckers only want profits, money, money, money, just smoke some pot and chill the fuck out.

[TheQuindecillion]

If we don't watch closely those money-grubbing, Washington slugs, they will grease a bill through that will fuck the internet and monumentaly impinge on the ppl's sacred right to communicate and share ideas. I'm seriously concerned that--in the end--the monied agenda will win, which will result in a major compromise in our dignity and the intellectual and social progress of the world. Laugh if you want, but I truly believe that.

[TheQuindecillion]

Okay, it's official: SANDRA AISTARS is a cheap, dick-sucking whore.

[EaZyShotss]

Then why not go with the OPEN Act???? I dont know if I'm right, but doesn't it primarily target foreign websites that are "willfully" allowing online piracy?

[SaberTanker22]

SOPA will hopefully censor sandra aistar to lol.

[brpopebp]

If Open Dns was shut down or targeted by SOPA/PIPA I would be pissed

[ivanosito]

"Incredibly important" ... she just told it... it is Incredible... Impossible to believe.

[AKUMADANTAI]

how can you suport a law that takes down honest websites that instantly remove illegal material from their service and sites when they find out about it inbetween millions of files.

this law has some good points but the overal ewecution is against a free internet, and endangers the existance of it !

[AMartins92]

Fuck you supporters. We can't afford to buy all your shit let's face it

[q8ps]

@AMartins92 100% i agree With U

[Lawliet3300]

sandra aistars is a fuckin bitch , youtube videos get removed everyday cause its says some copyright crap , and this bitch says this same shit over and over again

[Lawliet3300]

fucking fags , dont they get enough money aldready and now these mother fuckers want to earn money from sources which were actually free . damn mother fuckin congress sons of a bitches

[Ayoubmode]

ALL THIS SHIT IS HAPPENING JUST BECAUSE JUSTIN BIEBER COMPLAINED COZ HIS BEAUTIFUL MATERIALS HAVE BEEN PIRATED, OBVIOUSLY I PREFER WIKIPEDIA AND I'VE NEVER LISTENED TO JUSTIN BIEBER EVEN BY ACCIDENT.

[MegaDorothyD]

Great job by Sandra. As an indie filmmaker, I appreciate the work she does every day. You're obviously not familiar with her or the work she does for Copyright Alliance. It's actually one of the few organizations that has grass roots appeal for smaller creative artists who have been essentially ignored in this "debate."

It's apparently convenient to demonize creators as being greedy bloodsuckers. Easier to attack one's opponent rather than debate the merits.

[cletusinterruptus]

@MegaDorothyD "apparently convenient to demonize creators"

No one's demonizing the creators, rather the distribution monopoly the creators are forced to patronize. To the benefit of indie artists such as us, it gets easier every day to create and distribute one's work without the old guard middlemen taking a cut. Avenues for artists to profit directly from their works, of course, upset the execs, who are being made redundant, ergo SOPA.

[ZombieLincoln666]

Piracy is FREEDOM

When I pirate music, I am actually a freedom fighter, not a greedy, selfish, piece of shit with no concept of property.

[ImaginedWriter]

The DMCA has been used to censor atheist videos on youtube, how hilarious that she brings that up.

[hydrus77]

Shes lying her ass off and you know it!! Fuck that bitch!!

Fuck off hoe

[DonteGameReviews]

SOPA: Problem?

[TeleMentoring]

khanacademy has a similar and remarkable explanation of PIPA and SOPA.

[knightbee]

There are thousands of artist's in all media who freelance using the web and out number artist's who sell their stuff in stores and other place's. Most of the freelance artist's have to get known through the internet via ads, Facebook, twitter, Photobucket, YouTube, Deviantart and various other site, so they can actually sell their art. Getting rid of these sites doesn't help up coming Artist's. I hope they really think about who actually gets hurt by doing this.

[ZombieLincoln666]

@knightbee

Then those artists can allow those websites to use their copyrighted material.

That's actually how copyrights work.

[TheScottism101]

So that's what lying, shit stain cunts who do nothing to further humanity and freedom look like. What's her name, Sandra Aistars? Well I guess now I have a good example of who not to be like. I guess you can learn things from useless cunts on the internet too.

[RelaxedTension1]

Sandra Aistars keeps saying "It's simply not true", and that "everyone needs to read the bill". We did, we see what it says, and it is true.

Thanks for helping try to chip away at a foundation stones of our society for a few bucks. You are a stellar human being.

[dwdeclare1965]

the motion picture industry has been making record profits over the last 5 years because a night out at the movies is ridiculously expensive. for two people to take in a movie and have some popcorn, it's what, about $40. that's highway shrubbery if you ask me! and most hollywood movies are shit anyway. as for the music industry, well, most of that is shit too.

bottom line, it's all distractive bullshit entertainment that is worthy of nothing more than downloading it for free, then deleting it

[ZERONEFF]

I hope she's lying, if not I don't know show someone like her can get a job.... Sandra you are not looking at the big picture. I am an artist my self, and I am against SOPA!

[ratecredinc]

Sandra Aistars works for Time Warner, her Copyright Alliance is actually just a fundraising front for her media conglomerate clients who want to lobby to control the internet with DNS take down notices to sites that do no more than link to what they consider infringing. There is no due process provisions in either of these bills, and the claim that these bills are "still a work on progress" only proves to me that they we attempting to overreach in the first place.

[danielprovost]

The US Government doesnt give a flying f*** about any of this piracy.

The US Government wants to shutdown websites they see as a threat to

their empowerment. They already own the media (new channels), the internet is

the only hope we have as a human race, to stick together and overthrow the rich

before they eventually kill us all.

[bikingviking]

ok, so it sounds like only her 11,000,000 clients are allowed to use the internet 'freely'. I am taking that out of context, but this was good to watch. I am against PIPA and SOPA. If she is so dedicated to the free world and freedom of speech then these bills should not exist!

[thezinkcoo]

11 million artists my ass. That woman is so full of shit

[kvmairforce]

Look at here! She looks evil, or is it just me?

[picneec13]

THE KING OF THE INTERNET HAS SPOKEN!

[ChintamiAtmanegoro]

i love fucking shit memmek koontol Jesus Christ SOPA and PIPA ...This is what i called Justice Leagua

[ThatUnfunGuy]

What I find interesting in what Aistars says is that it's not like there isn't laws against piracy in pretty much all countries in the world. So instead of making laws like this start taking better action in taking down sites like piratebay and torrentz. STOP ruining the internet, just because you're butt hurt

[FlameSwordWielder]

SOPA is not the way piracy should be addressed, most of people who download copyright protected material illegally would not buy it in the first place, so you cannot compute the effect of piracy on entertainment industry accurately. Who is more likely to download a pirated movie, a person wanting to save 10 bucks on a movie to buy cigars or a person who cannot afford a movie because he is in a difficult financial situation (college debt, etc.)?

[FlameSwordWielder]

ANY user generated file-sharing website can be marked as "entirely dedicated to ilegal sharing of copyright protected material" and all websites that link to them can be marked as their companions, i don`t really care where the bill softened, this after all was pretty much the original idea, to allow big companies to have more control over the internet.

[FeebleMindedNessInc]

I love how nervous she is

[RFMarine2]

PIPA as an anti-piracy tool is no different from a megaton nuclear bomb used as an anti-cockroach measure. too much collateral damage

[melvinsucho]

Isnt it weird?, that even when napster, the pioneer in music download, appeared on the internet that there are still artists getting rich of their music, movies, tv shows and books?, I mean, shouldnt there have been some sort of artistical armageddon since birth of download? If you wanted to send somebody to jail, you might have thought about sending the first big company to sell us radios with "tape recorders" , that to me is when piracy actually started, too late now.

[FeebleMindedNessInc]

@melvinsucho it's even better, since the "illegal" sharing of media these media only got more and more popular. lots of artists agree that even piracy boosts their popularity and thus royalties

[melvinsucho]

It's the napalm effect, it wont just affect digital pirates, it will affect artists as well, they wont be heard for shit,



[melvinsucho]

What a cunt.!!

[Warpchy]

Boy is she avoiding mentioning "rogue sites."

Solution is all market, not really part of legislation.

[newAgentPROVOCATEUR]

*** Google has been the US gov's 3 legged dog biatch for years ***

And now it's getting peed on by the US gov censoring d i c k*

[newAgentPROVOCATEUR]

~• PiPA & SOPA •~

It's like using DRONE STRiKES that kill dozens, on the effort to assasinate 1 target.

The KEY word in all this mess is MONEY.

If the SHARiNG of information, works or media results in monetary PROFiT, then it is infrigment, & there R already laws that deal with that.

If SHARiNG is not 4 profit, then these laws R all about controlling KNOWLEDGE/POWER & keeping it in the hands of the military, politicians the wealthy 1% dictators*

[miceypoo]

You want to understand SOPA, Millionaires and Billionaires techies want to support their business model of free labour that Google calls "freedom of speech".Wikipedia and Google have no solutions like the Occupy Wall-Street Protest. Go after the people uploading Jimmy? No Jimmy it only takes one person to upload an illegal movie which is available to millions. Jimmy cites no law, no actual precidents, nothing, he spits fear saying that you are responsible for supporting his job

[237Michael]

Sandra Aistars is just an operational agent for the 1% who are fucking us, the 99%.

[justcrazymade]

thaats bullshit because majority of the artist she represents are gonna be able to connect and create with or without the internet

[flmae46]

Sandra Aistars is a stupid fat bitch.

[PrtuguesePride]

@flmae46 why is she a bitch??? because she says actually a truth??? a truth that nobody cares to listen a truth that everyone pretends to think its a lie... because what you all want is to have everything on the web for free... you dont respect musitians. you dont respect artists, you dont respect anyone... you (society) are becoming selfish and silly since you think you are special, just because you have a "facebook profile" what an idiots... GROW UP MAN, piracy is stealling!!!

[flmae46]

@PrtuguesePride You actually wrote a paragraph defending her. Your like stupid.

[PrtuguesePride]

@flmae46 i am stupid?? no... YOU ARE AN IDIOT SIR... because at least i have MORAL VALUES, AT LEAST I KNOW PIRACY DESTROYS OTHER PEOPLES LIVES, you are an HIPOCRITE, you insult mrs Sandra Aistars because she stands agains your selfish behaviour on stealing midia contents, because your are an idiot that are OK with piracy, your an IDIOT that live happy with it, and dont care about the damage you cause to other people... you can insult me, but i at least have HONOR and values... you DONT

[madmuffinz]

SOPA Debate: Wikipedia's Jimmy Wales in Discussion with Copyright Alliance's Brick Wall

[MrJezagee]

Sandra Aistars is lying when she say that she says there nothing about the burden of proof. A poo by any other name is still just as smelly

[Ridervopos]

I'm willing to bet money that Sandra didn't even read the bill. It states that it will target sites IN THE US that "enables or facilitates" the websites committing the "criminal" acts. The enables or facilitates means virtually any site that lets you comment (a.k.a. the one you're on) is allowed to be shut down if somebody gives a link to a website committing criminal act. Honestly half of the people in the U.S. government talk like they havent gone to college...

[celshader97]

wales' responses in this video were really professional. next year I'm definitely donating to wikipedia.

[searaph]

Thank you Sandra Aistars, thank you very much for missing the point. I am a hobby crafter/one shot writer, and something like SOPA would even stop what I do, and I don't even make any sort of net profit once time is factored in. These bills would stop me from making crafts of my favourite games, or writing about characters from movies or tv shows because the writing is so unclear.

Jimmy has the right idea about what to do: go back to the drawing board and figure this out, properly.

[rain2586]

I hate fat middle aged white bitches...they're so miserable they wanna make everyone else miserable to...oh shit this comment might censored now

[theblissfulchaos]

If it hasn't been said yet, I think it should be pointed out that if these bills pass, those supposed 11 'million' artists will probably all be thrown in jail or fined because they've streamed music over YouTube or something, which would pretty much undo what these bills attempt to accomplish, and probably do even more damage than what was being done in the first place.

[Featheredhat]

Problem is, you don't have "sites entirely dedicated to ilegal sharing of copyright protected material". There's NO such place. There IS sharing, full stop, which can be of legal material as much as ilegal material.

And even those sites which promote, say, watching tv shows on the internet ARE legal: you are allowed to buy a CD and share it with your neighbour. It's the same logic, except you are sharing with complete strangers. Making copies and keeping them is ilegal, not the sharing.

[metalicman666]

Who the fuck cares?! those artists are already making millions with the internet as is,, Why the fuck does SOPA care so much to protect those artists and help them earn more money?!

[animeboi228]

is it illegal to download non-american music for free cuz if it is, then y

[SakuraAvalonBleac25]

*takes a breath* DOWN WITH SOPA/PIPA!

[DonteGameReviews]

She was SPEECHLESS after seeing that video! I support that guy! 

[FerretDude15]

Anyone notice how much she says "Uhhh.."

Even she doesn't know what the hell she's talking about with this bill. These SOPA/PIPA people are ignorant and paranoid.

[DonteGameReviews]

SOPA gets OWNED HAAAAARRRRRRRRDDDDDD

[NomedSenkrad]

Copyright Alliance beware! Jimmy Wales has a personal appeal for you!

[strangelittleboy]

"... COMMITTING free speech", she says.

Note the verb.

One commits a crime, or a mistake.

One doesn't normally "commit" free speech.

Or is it that for the people she's representing, it's all the same?

[dynamicmaxwell120]

I got your back Jimmy.

[Gunner0613]

No shifting of the burden of the proof? Seriously? I could have sworn I just read something that states "(1) IN GENERAL- At any time after the issuance of an order under subsection (b), a motion to modify, suspend, or vacate the order may be filed by--"

[726Casper]

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[Wolfacholic]

As a Socialist even I do not follow dis. I am a Socialist for the people and must say that if this passes it will effect ALL ENGLISH SITES. Not just the Americans.

[Gunner0613]

I think what needs to happen in any legislative process is that public just needs to gtfo of our business.

[Mrannihalator]

I don't plan on following this law.

[Mrannihalator]

SOPA is SO stupid. I don't care about greedy corporate douche bags who want more and more money. No one owns the internet especially not the government!

[Hitmonchan107]

SOPA - RESPECT MAH AUTHORITY!

[r30413]

Go Jimmy Wales, the world is with you!!!

[dreadpiraterobert]

She does NOT speak for the 2 million artists, she speaks for the 2 dozen CEO's like Sumner Redstone and the obscenely wealthy owners of the media giants. Artists want the creativity and freedom, her bosses want to crush, control and run the internet for their own benefit.

[rossprovocative]

@jredheadgirl well, yes, it's true the tech companies are bigger than those of entertainment (read: orders of magnitude more jobs will be lost by this bill than saved), but in terms of lobbying, the old guard media outspends tech by more than 10x.

if you're really that concerned about piracy, might i remind you that it's actually a service problem, not a legislative one. the internet has demonstrated repeatedly that, if you offer a product people actually want, they will pay for it.

[snoop0x7b]

@rossprovocative Exactly. See iTunes and amazon MP3.

[MooneySquared]

My name is Adolf Hitler, and i support the SOPA.

[feiggit]

I used to think legacy content was just misguided (open internet is in fact a very good thing for artists), but nope: active, purposeful liars.

The broadly-worded "facilitation" clauses of SOPA and PIPA most certainly DO leave youtube and wikipedia to vulnerable to closure, with no due process. If you don't believe the law will get abused in this fashion, just look to the dajaz1 fiasco. The bills even provide new explicit immunities for abusers.

This is censorship and this bitch knows it.

[snoop0x7b]

@feiggit Another great example is the megaupload song.

[flyyspit]

Shes a former LOBBYIST..

Go figure

[jredheadgirl]

@flyyspit ...and the tech industry has no lobbyists involved in this issue? ..and BIG companies at that..

[erikrei]

If something is truly great, even when freely available, sometimes people do spend money. Look at Louis CK. I personally am very happy to hand over $ to support talented artists and musicians.

[jredheadgirl]

@erikrei Really? Have you noticed what's been topping the charts (on all or most of the largest music sites) lately? Besides, it's not up to you to decide whether or not I give away my property for free...or not..or how much I charge. I am the creator and the owner; therefore, it is MY decision to make. You are free to invest in the creation of your own content, that you then can give away for free. No one is stopping you from doing that; it is your right.

[snoop0x7b]

@jredheadgirl The issue is when you look to defend that right in such a way that infringes on the rights of others to do non-copyright infringing activities it becomes untenable to enforce it in that manner. Unless you're familiar with, and I mean in terms of having taken classes on graph theory and network theory, the term end-to-end you probably are not qualified to talk about whether SOPA breaks the internet.

[erikrei]

@jredheadgirl as a consumer, and not as a provider or music industry player, I really could care less about what is topping the charts. Not to shoot my own argument in the foot; yes, money and market talks, and free content is not topping a chart based on sales (duh). But my point is that I and the consumers enjoy the liberty to spend money where we please. I DO willingly pay for content I deem of superb quality. Feel free to charge as much as you want. Who knows if people will pay. That's my pt

[ggzzbb]

The ones who are ripping the artists are the record labels and the film companies as they too are ripping the consumer by selling their products at extravagant prices.

[jredheadgirl]

@ggzzbb ..and so you can now add yourself to that list of folks that are quite content with refusing to pay artists for their work.

[ug5a2ld0]

11 million artists? U.S. population is roughly 300 million. This would mean that one out of every 27 Americans is a professional artist. While I won't argue that there is a certain art to making a McDonald's Big Mac, I find this claim dubious. The National Endowment for the Arts correctly reports "There are now almost two million Americans who describe

their primary occupation as artist, representing 1.4 percent of the U.S. labor force" Nice try lady, but being a bull$#!% artist doesn't count!

[snoop0x7b]

@ug5a2ld0 There's probably about that many artists, just not professional. I wouldn't consider myself professional even though I sell my photography prints (and the occasional portrait session). But that being said, this witch definitely does not speak for me.

[joshua50101]

@ug5a2ld0 Great comment dude! you really got it going on. Kind regards

[dwdeclare1965]

i downloaded the movie fargo the other day and there's a great line near the end where margie says to one of the men who kidnapped jerry's wife, "there's more to life than a little money y'know...don'tcha know that?"

how the rich ownership class hates it when the rest of us share for free, without the motivation of profit, whether it's food, clothing, shelter or music. capitalism views free exchange as a threat to its very existence and will do everything in its power to stop it.

[MysticPotato68]

What ever happen to the rant of deregulation? The proposed laws goes opposite. The Aistars was mumbling a lot and was searching for arguments. She sounded like a Fed chairman.

[gerfall]

The bill targets major sites because it's so VAGUE. Maybe if they proposed a new bill that wouldn't shut down all these major sites people would SUPPORT IT.

[arjuntemurnikano]

meiyue85 says: "To stop piracy, we need innovation not legislation!"

That is so true.

[dwdeclare1965]

"We’re talking about sites that are operated & dedicated to piracy & that are really preventing individual creators across the country from having an economic livelihood from their creative pursuits."

what a load of crap! the vast majority of these "individual creators" are doing just fine thank you. & anyway, these companies have no real concern for the artists they own, all they care about is their profits growing year after year. they're not satisfied with being rich, they wanna be superrich

[meiyue85]

with the current state of music and movies (which they continuously produce shit) then I don't see how this bill will help them financially if they enforce censorship. In fact I only see it hurting them... At the same time I am against piracy! Still, the bill is so vague it deems any website that "happens" to link to another site hosting pirated content subject to being blocked by the government (without courts or prior investigation). To stop piracy we need innovation not legislation!!!

[MarkoKraguljac]

Rent-a-Misery was not very convincing.

[snoop0x7b]

I'm an artist, I've sold my work. She doesn't speak for me. Make that 10,999,999 artists. Other artists probably agree with me, but I don't assume to speak for them because that's just pompous and arrogant.

[jredheadgirl]

@snoop0x7b I'm an indie artist and she DOES speak for me. If you want to give your work away for free, that's your prerogative. Don't force your business model on me. What do you think would happen if you failed to pay your phone or internet service bill every month? Is THAT free? This is not only about "big" entertainment companies, The vitriol and selfishness of those who fail to recognize the pain inflicted by piracy astounds me.

[dwdeclare1965]

@jredheadgirl the pain that has been inflicted on others by greed and censorship is far greater than any suffered from the sharing of a song or a movie for free.

[snoop0x7b]

@jredheadgirl Where the issue of censorship comes up is the fact that many businesses abuse the existing DMCA takedown rules to takedown content that is considered fair use and content critical of them. What SOPA would do would be to allow takedowns to be unilateral, and thus it's open to abuse. I don't think anyone is arguing that the stated intent is censorship or to break the internet, but rather that as written it would lead to that. We can do better than SOPA, to pretend otherwise is dumb.

[snoop0x7b]

@jredheadgirl I don't give my work away for free. I happen to have the luxury of selling art on the side, my day job is a software and network engineer... I happen to understand how the internet works, and I'd prefer not to break it. We need not destroy existing internet architecture and due processing in an attempt to curb piracy. My opinion is we need to act, but that SOPA and PIPA are absolute crap.

[jredheadgirl]

@snoop0x7b No one is trying to "break" the internet. Stealing is against the law. If we have no rule of law, then there is only anarchy in the end.

[snoop0x7b]

@jredheadgirl No one's trying to, but the law as written does it. SOPA's DNS blocking provisions will make DNSSEC, a next generation security technology, impossible to implement. Not only that, people can get around the blocking provisions and in doing so will open themselves up to more malware. My opposition of SOPA isn't based on an opposition to stopping piracy, just the stupidity of the bill. Are you a network engineer? No? Then you aren't qualified to say if it will break the internet.

[Toffenuff]

@jredheadgirl just bc no one is trying doesn't mean you should continue to support a bill that WILL break it. Just because we're against SOPA doesn't mean we're pro-piracy. There is simply a better way to do things, and clearly the entertainment industry AND their pet clueless lawmakers have no clue how to do so in an efficient, safe, and logical manner.

[cletusinterruptus]

@jredheadgirl if you are too lazy to modernize your business model, that's your prerogative, absolutely. if you feel free speech and due process—two of the most important aspects of our entire society—should be recalled for the sake of your laziness, well, that makes you something else entirely. the vitriol of those who think piracy needs to be tackled by litigation, rather than free market competition, is unequivocally disgusting. on the off chance you're not an MPAA sockpuppet: read the bills.

[jredheadgirl]

@snoop0x7b I am sure that I will receive all kinds of insults as a result of my standing up for myself. Hurray for tolerance and individual thought. The mob rules..scary.

[badmonkey0001]

@snoop0x7b I am a fellow artist. You spoke for me. Thank you.10,999,998...

[rockerteen8300]

Look up a video on YouTube by Mike Mozart called "Be a HERO and Help STOP SOPA Now!! I'll tell you How! This Video that Must Be SHARED!" The major media started all the piracy in the first place, now they want special laws to protect themselves, and her point that these bills will hurt corporate artists is simply untrue, these bills will give corporations the power to own the web, it will be just like TV all over again, corporations = 100% of the voice, people = 0% of the voice.

[leoclub626]

this hollywood shill is repeating her talking points over and over again.

[gambit1357]

What type of due process is involved??

[Licmycat]

Looks like they are screaming to keep Americans dumb and info banned. Hitlers.

[Licmycat]

Jesus. They charge for t.v. now and I threw mine out. Now they want to do away with the same thing as radio??!?? If they go on to charge us for breathing we'll have to shoot them.

[izaccy]

Sandra Aistars and the Media Moguls she are representing. are the middle men

and they are whining, Why ?

they provide publishing for artists, they tie artists hands, they control how much money

the artist can use to spend on advertising his content.

but thanks to Youtube and the Internet, now artists have an equalizer.

Fans can directly follow their artist on Twitter, and the artist can directly communicate with their fans and sell products directly to the fan. eliminating the middle man.

[darkhorseman81]

Sopa is only for the middle men. And not the useful middlemen who help artists. But the big corporate moguls who just want more and more.

[izaccy]

@darkhorseman81 You are totally right,

they are crying cause artists are being born free without being enslaved by Corporations.



[LIVETHUAN]

Hurting artist? The internet is what gives them their fame in the current age. It's free publicity but I guess copy right wouldn't know about that.

[izaccy]

If Sandra is 100% right. then how come artists who got millions of fans like Lady Gaga or Justin Bieber, have not used their fans to lobby for SOPA ?.

in matter of fact I have yet to see a mainstream artist advocating for SOPA,

if anything we have seen the opposite artists are against SOPA.

big name artists like Will.i.am and P. Diddy got together to fight against SOPA

and made a song in solidarity with MegaUpload.

They are hurt because they as middleman are being cut off. thats what it is

[DukeNavarre]

@izaccy "in matter of fact I have yet to see a mainstream artist advocating for SOPA,"

Do you even need the word "mainstream" in that sentence? The only people I've seen speaking in support of SOPA are people who work for the "MAFIAA"... which, sadly, includes several members of the senate.

[izaccy]

Sandra Aistars lost so much credibility just right from the get go,

If there is anything that i love more then what i believe, is the truth.

Sandra began by saying right from the get go, that poor struggling artists are suffering because of the Internet. Thats first not true, second just be freaking honest, you are not speaking for artists. Sony and UMG never cared for their artists,they held their rights and controlled what artists could sing about for decades.