Syd Barrett brought his imagination to Pink Floyd. Everyone who cares to take time out to do some research realizes how special he was. Fine line between insanity and genius.We are all influenced by the people and circumstances that surround us.If we care to, all of us can tap into the creative energy of our subconscious mind .Often drugs seem to peel back the layers of the material world and allow us to open the gates to our psyche. Meditation and pray also creates the same mind set.
@reekashade i think syd demonstrated its not quite a fine line. there is quite a lot of overlap between genius and insane. listen to his solo stuff, after he'd completely lost it. that said, i would have dropped him from the band too, no doubt.
@ spaceorbison (stupid fucking name, by the way...). If Dave Gilmour had not joined the band, there would be no Dark Side of the Moon. Think about it (if you have the mental capacity) With Syd in charge, it would have been just another of the 60's novelty groups.....
@Nicap2 come on man, dark side of the moon wasn't just david gilmour's work, in fact who create the idea was roger waters and there's a lot of work by mason and wright too so don't tell me that if it wasn't for gilmour DSOTM would not exist, You're wrong man
Gillmore almost took Floyd into Adult Easy Listening,"Soft Rock" listen to his contributions on "Meddle" good thing Waters got his head together. They paid Waters 84 million to keep the name, "Pink Floyd" in 87'. Remember what they done after that? They became a wax dummy of what they USED to be. Fuckin'"Dark Side of the Moon" (although I love it) is a god-damn Alan Parsons Project, written by Waters & performed by "Floyd". Old rock stars should know when to BOW OUT. New blood is needed.
Syd Barrett was a genius in his own right. He helped kick started Pink Floyd and influenced them in a profound way musically and thematically. Soooooo much of their material post Syd's departure resonated their thoughts and feelings about him ....whether they admit it or not.....Shine on Syd!
Everybody, get over yourself. dave is right. In the mid 70 to 80'es PF was far removed from the psychedelic stylings of Syd Barret. Dave is just being rational, realistic and honest.
I think REAL Pink Floyd fans would respect every single member that was in the band. Syd, Roger, Nick, David, and Rick were ALL part of one of the best bands. They all contributed somehow. I'm sick of hearing people say that Syd was a god and pink floyd would be nowhere without him. I know he started the band, and i agree that he was a great guy, but to say that everything after "Piper" sucked, that's stupid and disrespectful to a band that has made such wonderful music for YOU to enjoy.
I honestly dont think Pink Floyd would have gone on to as timeless as they have been had it not been for Gilmour. The man is talented, both with his style of play and his voice etc. Full respect to Syd for his contributions, but there is no way anyone can deny the tremendous contributions Dave made after Syd left. Thats not luck, thats, talent and synergy. Dave being a gentleman would probably play his contributions down...but history will never forget how Floyd got where they are
he was no schizophrenic and had no symptoms of schizophrenia in his life. He suffered from severe emotional issues - couldn't handle stress of any kind very well at all and would virtually shut down (on some rare occasions he'd freak out) when any emotionally demanding situation presented itself.and then there was his mental break down,and weird behaviour,his sister told he hadnt mental ill,but he wasnt even normal,
jim morrison and the doors,,,,, the doors became well pissed off with jims antics ,,, same as floyd.. but acId instead of jims boozed up mentalism,, jim and syd ???????? I LUV YOU MAN
Syd was just to deep for the popular music...they didn't put out Scream Thy Last Scream as a single...it would be a revolution in music if Syd was apreciated as a genius.by the Pink Floyd members.
Jesus is the only hope of salvation from the guilt of sin. He is God come in the flesh. And he came to wash away our sins with his blood that he shed on the cross. Salvation is a free gift, but you must repent and ask Jesus to save you from your sins and come into your heart. God is good. It is written, "The just shall live by his faith."
And don't even try this "oh i saw a youtube clip of him freaking out" ya a clip of one song from one show out of many doesn't mean anything at all, especially a show that was being filmed which would probably have intimidated Syd and most weird artists like Syd play better at more intimate type shows anyway
I don't believe Gilmour is devaluing Syd's influence in that clip or that he ever intentionally badmouthed him, its just the fact is that production technology developed EXTREMELY after Syd left the band therefore classic rock stations want to overplay the over-produced later Floyd material rather than Syd's so its what everyone knows, those are facts has anyone actually heard the concerts Syd played no, word of mouth from bandmates that kicked him out does not constitute fact dumbasses.
I think this is 3 discussions.. 1, Did Syd actually become impossible to work with, and thus merit his own dismissal? 2, Did Floyd diss him afterwards? 3, Is David Gilmour an asshole? Reg 1, I recommend "Pink Floyd Through The Eyes Of" by Bruno MacDonald.. 2, The official story is they were told off. I really dont know, but neither do you I suspect.. ? 3. He may well be, but I dont really care, cause I love the stuff he's done. Lets face it - everyone is an asshole sooner or later. Cheers!
The reason was this - and it's odd that you dont know this.?! Syd had gone mental - he would stand on stage and strum the same chord endlessly, or maybe just stand there.. I am full of awe and respect for Syd Barrett, his wonderful music and quirky lyrics. This does not prevent me from seeing the hard facts: Syd became completely unreliable - this is amply documented. If he was your band mate - might you not have moved on as well, or would you have sacrificed your career for him?
Syd was certainly not apt anymore to be in the band... that is why he left (or was replaced, if you prefer). Yet, he definitely left the mark in the songs and history of the band when he was there. The naive psychedelic bittersweet harmony of Pink Floyd's songs at that time was to a large extent thanks to Syd. That time of Pink Floyd along with tunes such as Jugband Blues are as unique as the post-Syd era with songs like Mother.
lmao they kicked him out and rightly so , if hes too f***ed up to even play then why should he be in the band , if they didnt boot him out then maybe floyd wouldnt have lasted as long as it has , (i think floyd was a load of bollocks when syd was in it)
@bongalo12 Finally, someone in agreement with me that Pink Floyd was less with Syd Barrett than without him. Don't know the whole story, but seems David Gilmour was the piece missing. When he came on board, Pink Floyd became PINK FLOYD. Just my thoughts.
@ALBERTKING901 if you dont know it wasnt david gilmour who made them pink floyd it was roger waters taking over after syd left. roger waters wrote almost every song on all of their albums until he left the group. after he left it completely fell apart. but its still the greatest music ever created.
@dubstepmaster3000 But if it wasn't for Syd's ''mental colapse'' Roger wouldn't have written such great albums... David Gilmour became a key member, with extremely important contributions.
@ALBERTKING901 but syd actually had a part in creating that sound that remained and not to mention he is imo the inspiration formany great tracks from dark side of the moon and shine on you crazy diamond as well pink floyd would not been what is was without him
@ALBERTKING901 I personally think that the most beautiful characteristic of Pink Floyd is the psychedelic form which lies in the essence of this band... And theres no doubt that Syd is master for that!
Actually, "Fuck you, sir." would be most properly punctuated. Sorry, grammer Nazi. (Christ please, noone comment on the "Nazi" thing, it's only a term !) Lighten up all, like 'diedahero' is getting at, I believe. Ps- Have you met Bob Dobbs?
. Gilmour is just trying to be diplomatic when he said Syd left the band, he could have been a prat and said something like..when sid fried his brain with LSD and could not play on stage anymore. I like Syds work, but the question is why did it not become a success?The world at that time had moved on from 60's trips into the more heavy rock 70's. and that is all that Gilmour is trying to say. Syd's style of music would not have survived the 80's either.
To all you Pink Floyd fans in YouTube land, please give me some facts about Syd Barrett. I've read that even if Syd never tried LSD, he still would have left the band because he was bipolar or had some other mental illness that affected his musicianship. True or false? Prior to his death, Syd was suffering from diabetes and pancreatic cancer. Were these two diseases any result of his heavy LSD usage? Thanks to all.
A: "You guys" referrs to you who think Floyd somehow ruined Barrets life. They didn't. HE did. B: the album is not "about" Syd. Get past it. It wasn't even named after Syd's "breakdown" However, Wish You Were Here" WAS. And C: Yes,Gilmour and Waters (Mainly) checked to make sure that Syd got his royalties because they had been mostly screwed out of theirs. It wasn't like they spent each day on it. Just a courtesy. They didn't hate the man you know. Barrett
Why should any of us care? I enjoy their music and respect them as great musicians, but their personal lives and relationships with one another are their business.
Oh, and they visited him early on, but it only upset him, so they left him alone out of RESPECT. Unlike many so called "fans" who hounded him and videotaped him walking around.
@Mozart1220 exactly..its like people refused to accept that he was happy as an artist. It really is an insult to his painting legacy to constantly hound him like that.They should have celebrated his work..he did so much more after he left floyd.
@AbagOfonions I also wonder what people expected the othet band mebers to do, just QUIT? They had invested time and effort into the Pink Floyd name as well. I did think Waters was a bit hypocritical later when he quit and expected the band to just "quit". But as for Barrett, HE chose to take those drugs which ruined his mind. A sad situation to be sure, and a waste of a great talent, but not the other guy's fault.
@woofusdoofus You don't realize how respected Gilmour is as a musician? He's considered one of the greats. I guess you wouldn't want to admit that considering how you THINK he somehow mistreated Syd Barrett. I guess you have proof he forcefed Syd all the drugs then? Your argument was lost in 1968.
Syd " left " the band, because he could no longer function. Very sad, but that's the way it is. If he wanted to stay with the group, maybe he should have performed, instead of staring into space. Another genius lost.
what a cunt"oh the world doesnt work like that" and what measly little fucking world of his is he talking about,syd barrett was a fucking legend and still is,and will always be ,hes such a pompous twat is dave gilmour ,he was probably the one phoning up saying yeah you know syds ill you know he needs treatment etc etc cos he wanted to take the fucking reigns fuck you!
Syd became impossible to work with, they had no option but to leave him. What else could he do? Besides there was no bad feelings between them since I think Dave and Rick helped Barrett write his solo album even though it wasnt very good.
This is an amazing band - I have a feeling that what they experienced with Syd helped them develop even deeper appreciation for meaning, depth, heart, care and all the great things we all share. "Don't be afraid to care" right?
Woops! Sorry, I forgot to mention the all-important Ricky Wright!!!! My bad!!! PF could never have done what they did without the Wizard of the Synthesizer and Keyboard!
Whatever the case, Syd Barrett and Roger Waters were the foundation of Pink Floyd, perhaps Syd moreso. I love David Gilmour, but Syd came first. Without Syd, I doubt Waters and Pink Floyd would ever have been what it was.
all that matters is the fact brilliant music shall live on through each and every one of their diehard fans. Im sure thats all they really wanted was to live on in the hearts and minds of their true fans, in the end thats all you really have. . .Memories
yeahhh this seems pretty pointless, to really love a band u must take in every aspect of their story, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Without the true aspects of their clashing personalities and real life problems theyd be yet another robotic drone for the media to control. I say love the music and all of its stages bc without one aspect of the story who are we really to say that any of your favorite tracks would have ever been created in the first place??
Not only did Syd Barrett deliberately plagiarize Robyn Hitchcock, he was not very original with the "look at me, I'm nuttier than the 100 sacks I bagged at boarding school" pose.
Slacker Brian Jones drowned himself with honor, rather than growing fat and old like Barrett. Justin Bieber would opt for drowning, or O.D. like Hendrix and Joplin, because Bieber is cool. As Bieber is well-balanced, he'll see himself in the RARHOF.
Syd Barrett was a dead weight Robyn Hitchcock impersonator.
@FuckngBastard are you just going on every syd barrett video and posting the same exact thing? why dont you get some common sense and learn how to respect someone. you suck at trolling by the way.
@FuckngBastard i think you will find robyn hitchcock born 1953, that would have made him 13 at 1966, your telling me he influenced syd,get your facts right please.
@shaftsbury94 Agreed, and it seems Mr Hitchcock is influenced, not only by Barrett, but by Dylan and Lennon too! Might even have been a member of the Cambridge "Syd Appreciation Society". What an erudite chap Syd appears to be in this Vid.
@FuckngBastard - Brian Jones was murdered, drowned by his personal assistant. Don't spread falsehoods. Jones was murdered. He didn't, "drown himself".
@MrSamram3 oh fuck off idiot, no one knows exactly what happened, for you to claim as fact that he was murdered based on unconfirmed conspiracy theories is just retarded. Most likely accident, possibly suicide, possibly murder.
@PutItAway101 Hey, watch the language, punk. That's just what I read a few months back. Then I read another story saying they weren't sure and that the builder's "deathbed" admission was fabricated. Chill out. At any rate, it doesn't really matter now, does it. The next Stones tour will be the Steel Wheelchairs Tour.
All one need do is listen to some Sid and then PF and then know that Gil is correct. In fact I have often thought about where Sid really did influence PF from the time years ago that I had first heard this idea. Yet as thing go in this world Sids spirit somehow still hovers around the thing. Maybe "We would slip slide away through the bordom and pain occasionally glancing up through the rain" Or just maybe PF had their own dark days to work out.
who wrote Arnold Lane? how dose it rank compared to something like animal.
Pink Floyd may have never achieved the epic writing they developed (Waters/Gilmore) it's hard to say if the band would have grown with Barrett and Waters...but i know it found something with Gilmore...undeniable
Syd was ahead of his time. If he would of gotten better and rejoined his band, pink floyd would have been more ambitious. Let's face it, the whole prog-rock thing got boring and ridicules after Wish You Where Here.
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I don't think Syd was brilliant at all. I think he was deranged with some mediocre talent and songwriting ability. After he tripped he became intolerable. Look at how the rest of his life ended up.
David Gilmour did not intentionally try to overthrow Syd. They were friends since their teenage years. In interviews it has been stated over and over again that Syd was just becoming extremely difficult to work with. Also, if it weren't for Gilmour we wouldn't have "The Madcap Laughs" or "Barrett". He helped Syd so much with the recording of these two records. Its questionable whether they could've even been made without his help.
@Codybear77 You obviously know nothing about creativity, songwriting and vision, and yes, guitar playing. Gilmour is a complete and utter fraud as are the rest of this contrived, talentless band. The Wall is simply as bad as it gets, and don't get me started on Dark Side of the Moon. Syd was THE MAN.
@sonicreducer5001 hey now brown cow. the sound changed drastically; no doubt there. i've heard better guitar players than gilmour, and i've heard better better vocalists than waters. but the wall is relevant social commentary.....even today.
Your arguments are subjective and sophomoric. The catalog detailing Gilmour's amazing guitar work is far greater than the wall and dark side of the moon. Thus, your argument is invalid, and you may insult me all you like. The fact that Gilmour is a far more expressive and creative musician will not be changed as a result.
Whatever the argument about Syd Barrett genius this or that, if he inspired Wish you were here and some other stuff then that's what happened, but him having a nervous breakdown and being unable to handle the music grind is nobodies fault even his. Pink Floyd became stratospheric once he was out of the band and that was perhaps a direct result of him leaving.
If Gilmour thought the way you show in this clip why did he cover all of Syd's material in 2006 when he passed and why did he help record the majority of his solo stuff in the first place?
pink floyd would have gone nowhere without Gilmour. they were dead in the water till he showed up. barrett petered out and roger waters is a great writer but terrible musician.
i feel what happened is that syd took way too much acid one day when he was in a bad mood or depressed.... and went on a mental spiral into his famous meltdown.... we all know LSD has an ego destroying process and i believe this mega trip he was on, the ego killing process really just shattered his final straw of self confidence.. and he was never the same after that. he never felt the same around his friends, he probably felt worthless and probably thought they didnt want him around anymore
Yeah right lol! How many hours I've spent deciphering syds unique laconic style, gilmoir could have played in queen!! Lol no loss, but Syd? Slack jawed jokel, spoken in grumbling overtones, poet....
Ha ha i like how Syd head-butted Dave at the end. I'm sure i'd feel different if i had been around when they first emerged with Syd but there is Pink Floyd pre Syd's head-departure and post Syd-departure that is important in so many ways. Their material was mostly great right up until Waters started pissing people off and got thrown out or whatever,after that they were just plain dull. The Wall and Final Cut are obviously very selfish works but after Waters left they lost their balls altogether.
@udnddn what a stupid coment. it was like a kick in the nuts for someomeno who really knows the deeps of the psychedelia of master syd. please shut up
Sorry, but just consider How many songs from "Syd barrett" period has been included in the album Echoes the best of Pink Floyd. Is a lot if you consider that with Syd barrett they did only 1 album.
Syd barrett relevance was still there even if Syd Roger Barrett wasn't there anymore. He has been always a presence for the band.
About gilmour! Don't know what to say. After Waters period...The gilmour one has been the most depressing one for the band.
Syd should have trademarked the name he gave the band. His Pink Floyd-era songs would be just as well known and the others would have gone on to become architects.
Many people don't realize that Barrett's songs got lots of airplay and kept the band alive until Dark Side of the Moon came out. Perhaps if they'd dropped the stage theatrics and changed the catchy Barrett-penned band name his statement might be true.
Dave's a good guy but that was a really stupid thing to say.
It's all hypothetical, but when these comments were made, Roger Waters and Richard Wright had already left the band. David Gilmour may very well have welcomed him back to get floyd's market appeal back.
@ninyae I think it was actually Roger Waters who was the better friend. I've seen RW twice (Radio KAOS, Amused to Death) and Pink Floyd Lite once (Momentary Lapse) and RW was the one who played Syd Barrett clips during the live performances.
@tenebrae23 You maybe right but I have seen Gilmour Floyd on film with Gilmour playing Barrett songs in more recent years and not just when he joined the band. There are clips of Gilmour doing Syd stuff, on You Tube. Gilmour supported Barrett to record in Abbey Rd for his solo material and reading Syd's bio's I get the impression that Gilmour was the greater friend but I guess none of us can really know unless we are in their heads.
Just how hard IS it to understand that a few sec. long statement tells pretty much nothing about Gilmour's, or the band's, actual views on the whole subject? Everything one says has a context, reasons things are put the way they are, and it never equals everything we might have to say, given time and maybe a pen to write it down. I don't doubt David's general respect for Syd as a musician and a person. He doesn't seem to struggle too hard to find the exactly right words for things, though.
what's with these Gilmoure haters? when people don't read or find out the real story behind anybody's life ..it's nor fair to publish these kind of stupid videos. READ YOU PEOPLE ..then judge and make your own conclusions. Stop being ignorant ,cus the result will turn you into a dumb ass''
@Chronos127 I think DG was referring to the type of style that the first album had - if they did another record like that, the Floyd's career wouldn't have went anywhere
This is an idiotic video. Gilmour's words are being taken out of context. He knew Syd since they were teenagers, and he's stated his respect for Syd as a person and musician scores of times. There's no need to make a video showing Syd headbutting Gilmour because Gilmour always had the deepest respect for Syd. Those of you who think Gilmour ever disrespected Syd are not very well-informed. This is the Pink Floyd, not the Jonas Brothers or Jersey Shore. Take your ill-informed gossip somewhere else
@rahooligan Syd was mentally ill and had to leave the band and someone had to fill his place, it was Gilmour, might have been anyone lese and Gilmour would have made it in anycase with another band or on his own even. PF looked after syd all of his life they gave him financial support and I did read that dyd was not envious of them after. The guy had an illness long term. Such is life. you cannot turn the clock back or change it
@rahooligan well it is certainly true that gilmour and pink floyd often credited syd, but what he says at the end of the video about barrett having "no relevance" to the band upon his departure is a bald-faced LIE.
@rahooligan four years after barrett left, the floyd were in the musical wilderness composing exactly the same bodies of music as they had been in 1967, i.e elongated, eerie, musical portraits; albeit with an ostensible air of trying to emulate barrett's geniune feel for such creations, without the authentic sense of feeling. it wasn't until dark side of the moon in 73 that the floyd finally refined the creative style that saw them become one of the most successful rock bands of all time.
@rahooligan i think that tells you all you need to know about syd having "no relevance" ..absolute balderdash. why would gilmour feel the need to say such a thing that is clearly not true?? well, we only lie when we have something to hide..
First off, maybe if David Gilmour didn't always say "When Syd left the band" people wouldn't be so inclined to hate him. Syd never "left" Floyd, he was replaced by one of his best friends, plan and simple. And anyone who thinks he was OK with that decision has apparently never heard "Here I go" off the "The Madcap Laughs" or seen any interviews by Syd after the fact. He was crushed.
Secondly, Gilmour has been quoted saying all kinds of fucked up shit about Syd, this is far from the first, or taken out of context.
He's been quoted as saying that the work he helped with on the Madcap was pointless because Syd was too far gone to make coherent music but to try and help him was the least he could do, and he's been quoted more than once saying that Syd's relevance to Floyd was gone by Dark Side of the Moon.
@diedahero from what i've read gilmour was the only original member of the band that put any effort into making sure barrett received his royalty checks. perhaps barrett's relevance waned, but character counts for a lot.
As far as I know the royalty story was proven false, under the pretense that the checks would've been deposited directly into an account from day one. (Is what other band members claim)
But they were still assholes, and that's how a story like that got out in the first place. What about how every single member says they didn't recognize Syd at all when he randomly showed up at the Wish You Were Here recordings? Maybe if they bothered to visit him over the 7 years they would have
I was just saying I doubt Syd's royalties were ever in question by the other band members, considering all the royalties from the two albums and four EP's the Floyd were undoubtedly directly deposited into a account for him. I don't know this to be a fact, but it makes sense to me.
@diedahero I guess there is no convincing someone who is determined to hate. The royalty story was never questioned, let alone proven false. Syd lived comfortably until the end of his days, because he had plenty of money thanks to the efforts of his FRIENDS. (the other Floyd members) They LOVED Syd, but he could not continue as a musician with his mental issues.
So now we've dissolved into a conversation you started yourself and I never even responded to? Well I don't worry, I don't have any interviews on youtube to pull up to prove the rest of the stopped caring about Syd as a friend. I do however have the fact that Syd's royalties were directly deposited into an account and not hand delivered by his ex-band mates as you've stated in your fantasy world. Oh, and you can CAPITALIZE any word you wish, friends tend to visit.
@diedahero Please refer us to where I said anyone "hand delivered" royalties. I merely stated that Gilmour made sure that Syd's royalties were honored. Thier management at the time was not exactly honest about alot of things, and Gilmour (and the rest of the band) wanted to make sure Syd got his due. You guys are looking for a scapegoat where there is none. Barrett was a genius, but the other band members didn't force him to take all those drugs. Stop blaming the innocent.
B: You were the one who started this by insisting that an album named after Syd's mental breakdown wasn't about him in anyway. Even when shown direct evidence of this, you've stated this could somehow be interpreted another way.
C: You've now hooked your trailer up to the idea his royalties were ever in question by me, which they weren't, and that somehow his ex-band members were the one's who made sure everything was on the up and up, which they weren't
@diedahero Syd was tripping on LSD and was not performing. You make it sound like they set out to destroy him..he did it to himself sad to say. The way the dumped him wasn't the best, but then how do you talk to someone who is not there half the time? Of course Syd was crushed, but it was a whole year before he cleaned his act up enough to produce madcap. The previous recording was so messed up that they could not salvage it even when he was sober.
@diedahero - It so happens Syd's family requested the band refrain from contact, quoting Syd got "upset" when reminded of his time with the band. This of course after Gilmour and Waters helped produce his solo album. reportedly Syd's physical appearance changed radically over the next 6 yrs, described by someone outside the band as a "balding fat-guy" who "wasnt all there". your comments reveal your lack of insight, and are a showcase of your ignorance. Died a hero maybe, but lived a fool.
A: There's an interview in the Jan. 95 issue of Guitar World in which the band quoted themselves as saying they deiced to just not pick Syd up for a show and that's how the they began kicking Syd out of the band. Sounds super friendly.
B: I've never read an interview where Syd or a family member of his has said this. I know Gilmore is fond of saying it, but these words have never been put into print. And Syd left the arguments with David on the main mix of Feel for a reason.
@diedahero Let's do B first..;o) I agree - this is Gilmours statement, but did you ever read an interview where Syd or family member expressed anything to the contrary? That they in fact missed having the rest of the Floyds around? I think not. Now to A. Yes, as Mason puts it, one day they just drove past his house. Well, according to everyone in and around the band, as well as a multitude of people who witnessed the decline of Pink Floyd Mk I, they had a pretty good reason for doing so.
So your rebuttal is I've also never heard them say they didn't? I can give 1,000 examples of David Gilmore being shown as an asshole and a lair. This video alone is a healthy example. Do you think it was happenstance that Syd showed up at the Wish you Were Here recordings? A mutual friend clearly told him about what they were working on and he probably said, Fuck it, you wanta see how crazy I am assholes, take a look. But the poor bastard couldn't even get that much. Nice pun btw
@diedahero Seriously - I'm just pointing out your point whether or not the Floyds were missed at the Barrett household has little weight as it could be used either way. Same goes for your next statement that "clearly" someone told Syd asf.. Clearly to whom? Not to me at this point..;o) It may be clear to you, but if you want me to buy into it you'll have to back it up.. What do I know - you might be right, but I've read much about this band and never come across this line before.
It's called character evaluation and common sense. Gilmore has tried to devalue Syd's influence to Floyd from the 1st day he stepped foot into the band. He is literally saying these words on this interview.
As to the WYWH recordings, if you don't believe that someone who knew what the band's theme for the new record was and told Syd; the only other option is that he randomly deiced to show up to where he supposedly didn't want to be reminded of. Yeah, that makes total sense.
@diedahero Syd left the band by becoming totally unable to play live and unable to contribute in the studio. If you can't play, sing, or write, you not *in* the band in any meaningful sense. There is little point taking a mentally ill man around on tour with you to make a laughing stock of himself. What could he possibly be in the band, a mascot?
I guess you've never had a friend lose it before, because if you did, you'd know they need support, not to have to rug pull from underneath them. Could Sid have continued with they Floyd? Maybe, maybe not. Should his band invited another singer/songwriter to rehearsals without telling Syd, even if the guy was Syd's friend from childhood, certainly not.
They kept his music style, they kept his imagery, they kept his songs, all they got rid of was Syd.
@diedahero How many Syd songs did they play live after he "left"? ONE. The music changed dramatically, and obviously Syd would never have written the cynical lyrics Roger does. How can you say they "kept" everything? Syd checked out mentally, just like Lennon at the end of the Beatles. People have time and effort invested, do you expect them to just quit because one member decides drugs are more important?
Well first off, they play way more than just one live song off of The Piper at the Gates of Dawn and A Saucerful of Secrets. In fact, I watched a performance in which they played Arnold Layne, Interstellar Overdrive (which was Syd's fucking baby) and See Emily Play. And do you think it's a coincidence that two of the three were Billboard chart hits?
They played those songs for the same reason they wouldn't rename the band, they knew their own marketability. Which Syd created.
Secondly, Pink Floyd had four records that completely flopped critically and it wasn't until they wrote an album about Syd, Dark side of the moon, that people even noticed them again. Without Syd this was an average to a below average band of hypocrites.
@diedahero Oh come off it. Firstly, saying that they fell off the charts until Dark Side is untrue. Secondly, calling them an "average to below average band of hypocrites" is just plain BS. "Meddle" would be a good album to refute both of these claims. Fairly popular album, great songs, no Syd Barrett. Specifically, "Echoes" had nothing to do with Syd Barrett and is one of the best tracks the band ever released.
Soundtrack from the Film More: A bullshit soundtrack.
Ummaguamma: Didn't reach gold until five years after release.
Atom Heart Mother: Didn't reach gold until 24 years after release.
Meddle: Actually managed to reach gold in three years (still two years longer than any "popular" record should reach the million mark) but at least Syd was still alive when it crossed over.
@diedahero The time it takes for and album to reach an gold or platinum is not a good argument. Nobody liked Van Gough until years after he died, but you don't hear people saying, "Oh well, it took his art X years to make it into X museum so clearly he's not really popular". Same thing can be said of Mozart or Schumann or any number of other artist. Besides, popularity has nothing to do with musical integrity anyways, that's an ad populum argument and therefore fallacious cont'd.
That was great. That was just great :)
songsterNJC 3 weeks ago
Syd Barrett brought his imagination to Pink Floyd. Everyone who cares to take time out to do some research realizes how special he was. Fine line between insanity and genius.We are all influenced by the people and circumstances that surround us.If we care to, all of us can tap into the creative energy of our subconscious mind .Often drugs seem to peel back the layers of the material world and allow us to open the gates to our psyche. Meditation and pray also creates the same mind set.
reekashade 2 months ago
@reekashade i think syd demonstrated its not quite a fine line. there is quite a lot of overlap between genius and insane. listen to his solo stuff, after he'd completely lost it. that said, i would have dropped him from the band too, no doubt.
magua4 1 month ago
@ spaceorbison (stupid fucking name, by the way...). If Dave Gilmour had not joined the band, there would be no Dark Side of the Moon. Think about it (if you have the mental capacity) With Syd in charge, it would have been just another of the 60's novelty groups.....
Nicap2 2 months ago
@Nicap2 come on man, dark side of the moon wasn't just david gilmour's work, in fact who create the idea was roger waters and there's a lot of work by mason and wright too so don't tell me that if it wasn't for gilmour DSOTM would not exist, You're wrong man
grinderbg 2 months ago
Syd was the fucking beauty and art of that group. David might as well be any other fucking boring blues player for all I'm concerned.
spaceorbison 2 months ago
@spaceorbison go and read the top comment you tit
hardrinker1989 3 weeks ago
@pakleglia Roger Waters was a vital part of Pink Floyd don't be dissing him
Norocmorth 3 months ago
@pakleglia ur stupid them
Norocmorth 3 months ago
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Gillmore almost took Floyd into Adult Easy Listening,"Soft Rock" listen to his contributions on "Meddle" good thing Waters got his head together. They paid Waters 84 million to keep the name, "Pink Floyd" in 87'. Remember what they done after that? They became a wax dummy of what they USED to be. Fuckin'"Dark Side of the Moon" (although I love it) is a god-damn Alan Parsons Project, written by Waters & performed by "Floyd". Old rock stars should know when to BOW OUT. New blood is needed.
roballen2 3 months ago
Syd Barrett was a genius in his own right. He helped kick started Pink Floyd and influenced them in a profound way musically and thematically. Soooooo much of their material post Syd's departure resonated their thoughts and feelings about him ....whether they admit it or not.....Shine on Syd!
biggaykendall 3 months ago
Gilmore sucks ass, he can't write ,Floyd isn't shit without Waters
roballen2 3 months ago
@roballen2 But Gimlour AND Waters = OMFG!!!!! :D :D
doodleguitarist 3 months ago
@roballen2 That's pretty stupid man
zwaqster 3 months ago
Everybody, get over yourself. dave is right. In the mid 70 to 80'es PF was far removed from the psychedelic stylings of Syd Barret. Dave is just being rational, realistic and honest.
Pladderkasse 3 months ago 4
Pink Floyd w/Syd and w/o Syd? come on; you're comparing Apples and Oranges. Oh God, a PF song and I didn't even think of it at first...
gahrzahk 3 months ago
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SuperMegaUberGenius 3 months ago
hilarious. eff Gilmour.
impala327 3 months ago
I think REAL Pink Floyd fans would respect every single member that was in the band. Syd, Roger, Nick, David, and Rick were ALL part of one of the best bands. They all contributed somehow. I'm sick of hearing people say that Syd was a god and pink floyd would be nowhere without him. I know he started the band, and i agree that he was a great guy, but to say that everything after "Piper" sucked, that's stupid and disrespectful to a band that has made such wonderful music for YOU to enjoy.
bayray222 3 months ago 2
@bayray222 good comment; all Floyd eras were good.
SeattleLA 2 months ago
I honestly dont think Pink Floyd would have gone on to as timeless as they have been had it not been for Gilmour. The man is talented, both with his style of play and his voice etc. Full respect to Syd for his contributions, but there is no way anyone can deny the tremendous contributions Dave made after Syd left. Thats not luck, thats, talent and synergy. Dave being a gentleman would probably play his contributions down...but history will never forget how Floyd got where they are
BionikTuning 4 months ago
he was no schizophrenic and had no symptoms of schizophrenia in his life. He suffered from severe emotional issues - couldn't handle stress of any kind very well at all and would virtually shut down (on some rare occasions he'd freak out) when any emotionally demanding situation presented itself.and then there was his mental break down,and weird behaviour,his sister told he hadnt mental ill,but he wasnt even normal,
bibi5027 4 months ago 2
jim morrison and the doors,,,,, the doors became well pissed off with jims antics ,,, same as floyd.. but acId instead of jims boozed up mentalism,, jim and syd ???????? I LUV YOU MAN
deanofoy 4 months ago
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jerudoriginal91 4 months ago
syd was necessary to pink floyd but it was also necessary for him to leave pink floyd
metsjets315 4 months ago
Syd was just to deep for the popular music...they didn't put out Scream Thy Last Scream as a single...it would be a revolution in music if Syd was apreciated as a genius.by the Pink Floyd members.
kubiksahara 4 months ago
Funny ;o)
LoL
StefBarrett1976 5 months ago
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tpipen22 5 months ago
his madness was his brilliance and his brilliance was halted by his madness
webmaster8040 5 months ago 3
Syd R.I.P.
Jovolution 5 months ago
And don't even try this "oh i saw a youtube clip of him freaking out" ya a clip of one song from one show out of many doesn't mean anything at all, especially a show that was being filmed which would probably have intimidated Syd and most weird artists like Syd play better at more intimate type shows anyway
ripcurl979 5 months ago
I don't believe Gilmour is devaluing Syd's influence in that clip or that he ever intentionally badmouthed him, its just the fact is that production technology developed EXTREMELY after Syd left the band therefore classic rock stations want to overplay the over-produced later Floyd material rather than Syd's so its what everyone knows, those are facts has anyone actually heard the concerts Syd played no, word of mouth from bandmates that kicked him out does not constitute fact dumbasses.
ripcurl979 5 months ago 2
I think this is 3 discussions.. 1, Did Syd actually become impossible to work with, and thus merit his own dismissal? 2, Did Floyd diss him afterwards? 3, Is David Gilmour an asshole? Reg 1, I recommend "Pink Floyd Through The Eyes Of" by Bruno MacDonald.. 2, The official story is they were told off. I really dont know, but neither do you I suspect.. ? 3. He may well be, but I dont really care, cause I love the stuff he's done. Lets face it - everyone is an asshole sooner or later. Cheers!
weincke01 6 months ago
The reason was this - and it's odd that you dont know this.?! Syd had gone mental - he would stand on stage and strum the same chord endlessly, or maybe just stand there.. I am full of awe and respect for Syd Barrett, his wonderful music and quirky lyrics. This does not prevent me from seeing the hard facts: Syd became completely unreliable - this is amply documented. If he was your band mate - might you not have moved on as well, or would you have sacrificed your career for him?
weincke01 6 months ago 18
Syd was certainly not apt anymore to be in the band... that is why he left (or was replaced, if you prefer). Yet, he definitely left the mark in the songs and history of the band when he was there. The naive psychedelic bittersweet harmony of Pink Floyd's songs at that time was to a large extent thanks to Syd. That time of Pink Floyd along with tunes such as Jugband Blues are as unique as the post-Syd era with songs like Mother.
malaikanini 6 months ago
That damn near scared the piss right out of the bladder.
HalfAssedJournalist 6 months ago
lmao they kicked him out and rightly so , if hes too f***ed up to even play then why should he be in the band , if they didnt boot him out then maybe floyd wouldnt have lasted as long as it has , (i think floyd was a load of bollocks when syd was in it)
bongalo12 6 months ago
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@bongalo12 Finally, someone in agreement with me that Pink Floyd was less with Syd Barrett than without him. Don't know the whole story, but seems David Gilmour was the piece missing. When he came on board, Pink Floyd became PINK FLOYD. Just my thoughts.
ALBERTKING901 6 months ago 29
@ALBERTKING901 True that man
bjl34565 5 months ago
@ALBERTKING901 i agree with you man... i still like songs with Syd in them but they were not as pleasing as stuff with David
stuffbuyer 5 months ago
@ALBERTKING901 if you dont know it wasnt david gilmour who made them pink floyd it was roger waters taking over after syd left. roger waters wrote almost every song on all of their albums until he left the group. after he left it completely fell apart. but its still the greatest music ever created.
dubstepmaster3000 4 months ago
@dubstepmaster3000 But if it wasn't for Syd's ''mental colapse'' Roger wouldn't have written such great albums... David Gilmour became a key member, with extremely important contributions.
jerudoriginal91 4 months ago
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jerudoriginal91 4 months ago
@ALBERTKING901 A lot of things Roger Waters wrote in albums after Syd left was about Syd Barret.
bandet888 4 months ago
@ALBERTKING901 but syd actually had a part in creating that sound that remained and not to mention he is imo the inspiration formany great tracks from dark side of the moon and shine on you crazy diamond as well pink floyd would not been what is was without him
wagz420 3 months ago
@ALBERTKING901 I personally think that the most beautiful characteristic of Pink Floyd is the psychedelic form which lies in the essence of this band... And theres no doubt that Syd is master for that!
DritonGusia 3 months ago 10
@ALBERTKING901 I love Floyd with Sid in it. But I do agree with you.
midianholic 3 months ago
Actually, "Fuck you, sir." would be most properly punctuated. Sorry, grammer Nazi. (Christ please, noone comment on the "Nazi" thing, it's only a term !) Lighten up all, like 'diedahero' is getting at, I believe. Ps- Have you met Bob Dobbs?
gracealone420 6 months ago
That headbutt was so funny
bobdy9988 6 months ago
Has anyone got any good links of Syd Barrett interviews?
meanmrmustard89 6 months ago
. Gilmour is just trying to be diplomatic when he said Syd left the band, he could have been a prat and said something like..when sid fried his brain with LSD and could not play on stage anymore. I like Syds work, but the question is why did it not become a success?The world at that time had moved on from 60's trips into the more heavy rock 70's. and that is all that Gilmour is trying to say. Syd's style of music would not have survived the 80's either.
AbagOfonions 6 months ago
To all you Pink Floyd fans in YouTube land, please give me some facts about Syd Barrett. I've read that even if Syd never tried LSD, he still would have left the band because he was bipolar or had some other mental illness that affected his musicianship. True or false? Prior to his death, Syd was suffering from diabetes and pancreatic cancer. Were these two diseases any result of his heavy LSD usage? Thanks to all.
SirReal1958 7 months ago
Ha ha! I appreciate the sentiment. It was a bit evil. But I see where you're coming from ;O)
bodnotbod 7 months ago
syd and david were friends since the age of 14 so its not like david was a stranger.
ronan32 7 months ago
A: "You guys" referrs to you who think Floyd somehow ruined Barrets life. They didn't. HE did. B: the album is not "about" Syd. Get past it. It wasn't even named after Syd's "breakdown" However, Wish You Were Here" WAS. And C: Yes,Gilmour and Waters (Mainly) checked to make sure that Syd got his royalties because they had been mostly screwed out of theirs. It wasn't like they spent each day on it. Just a courtesy. They didn't hate the man you know. Barrett
Mozart1220 7 months ago 2
Why should any of us care? I enjoy their music and respect them as great musicians, but their personal lives and relationships with one another are their business.
evilemperordude 7 months ago 2
Oh, and they visited him early on, but it only upset him, so they left him alone out of RESPECT. Unlike many so called "fans" who hounded him and videotaped him walking around.
Mozart1220 7 months ago 2
@Mozart1220 exactly..its like people refused to accept that he was happy as an artist. It really is an insult to his painting legacy to constantly hound him like that.They should have celebrated his work..he did so much more after he left floyd.
AbagOfonions 6 months ago
@AbagOfonions I also wonder what people expected the othet band mebers to do, just QUIT? They had invested time and effort into the Pink Floyd name as well. I did think Waters was a bit hypocritical later when he quit and expected the band to just "quit". But as for Barrett, HE chose to take those drugs which ruined his mind. A sad situation to be sure, and a waste of a great talent, but not the other guy's fault.
Mozart1220 6 months ago
You are 99% of the 'music world'??? Y ou sound as pompous as your pal Gilmour.
woofusdoofus 7 months ago
@woofusdoofus You don't realize how respected Gilmour is as a musician? He's considered one of the greats. I guess you wouldn't want to admit that considering how you THINK he somehow mistreated Syd Barrett. I guess you have proof he forcefed Syd all the drugs then? Your argument was lost in 1968.
Mozart1220 7 months ago
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Gilmour is such a horse's arse. Post Syd PF=stodgy self-indulgent tosh
woofusdoofus 7 months ago
Gilmour is such a horse's arse. Post Syd PF=stodgy self-indulgent tosh
woofusdoofus 7 months ago
@woofusdoofus 99% of the music world disagrees with you.
Mozart1220 7 months ago
Syd " left " the band, because he could no longer function. Very sad, but that's the way it is. If he wanted to stay with the group, maybe he should have performed, instead of staring into space. Another genius lost.
Mozart1220 7 months ago
suck eggs, gilmour. "no relevance for his type of thing" - what like .. uh .. genius? maybe you are right. punter.
waterspindle 8 months ago
what a cunt"oh the world doesnt work like that" and what measly little fucking world of his is he talking about,syd barrett was a fucking legend and still is,and will always be ,hes such a pompous twat is dave gilmour ,he was probably the one phoning up saying yeah you know syds ill you know he needs treatment etc etc cos he wanted to take the fucking reigns fuck you!
Ruby2052 8 months ago
Syd became impossible to work with, they had no option but to leave him. What else could he do? Besides there was no bad feelings between them since I think Dave and Rick helped Barrett write his solo album even though it wasnt very good.
R33Racer 8 months ago
cheeky, but i like it.
sydferret 8 months ago
This is an amazing band - I have a feeling that what they experienced with Syd helped them develop even deeper appreciation for meaning, depth, heart, care and all the great things we all share. "Don't be afraid to care" right?
Sun4Niebieskieoczy 8 months ago
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I just get the feeling that it was Syd who was brilliant & the others were a bit dim, in spite of their awe-inspiring music.
eruptionista 8 months ago
I just get the feeling that it was Syd who was brilliant & the others were a bit dim, in spite of their awe-inspiring music
eruptionista 8 months ago
Woops! Sorry, I forgot to mention the all-important Ricky Wright!!!! My bad!!! PF could never have done what they did without the Wizard of the Synthesizer and Keyboard!
MrSamram3 8 months ago
Whatever the case, Syd Barrett and Roger Waters were the foundation of Pink Floyd, perhaps Syd moreso. I love David Gilmour, but Syd came first. Without Syd, I doubt Waters and Pink Floyd would ever have been what it was.
MrSamram3 8 months ago
NOaodjsjsjwjfnndbeiwidjsnbf he is so sexy
takemeto64 8 months ago
all that matters is the fact brilliant music shall live on through each and every one of their diehard fans. Im sure thats all they really wanted was to live on in the hearts and minds of their true fans, in the end thats all you really have. . .Memories
LeumasNosdivad 8 months ago
yeahhh this seems pretty pointless, to really love a band u must take in every aspect of their story, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Without the true aspects of their clashing personalities and real life problems theyd be yet another robotic drone for the media to control. I say love the music and all of its stages bc without one aspect of the story who are we really to say that any of your favorite tracks would have ever been created in the first place??
LeumasNosdivad 8 months ago
Not only did Syd Barrett deliberately plagiarize Robyn Hitchcock, he was not very original with the "look at me, I'm nuttier than the 100 sacks I bagged at boarding school" pose.
Slacker Brian Jones drowned himself with honor, rather than growing fat and old like Barrett. Justin Bieber would opt for drowning, or O.D. like Hendrix and Joplin, because Bieber is cool. As Bieber is well-balanced, he'll see himself in the RARHOF.
Syd Barrett was a dead weight Robyn Hitchcock impersonator.
FuckngBastard 9 months ago
@FuckngBastard Please, just shut the fuck up.
Adamboms 9 months ago
@FuckngBastard are you just going on every syd barrett video and posting the same exact thing? why dont you get some common sense and learn how to respect someone. you suck at trolling by the way.
LysergicBliss67 9 months ago
@FuckngBastard i think you will find robyn hitchcock born 1953, that would have made him 13 at 1966, your telling me he influenced syd,get your facts right please.
shaftsbury94 8 months ago
@shaftsbury94 Agreed, and it seems Mr Hitchcock is influenced, not only by Barrett, but by Dylan and Lennon too! Might even have been a member of the Cambridge "Syd Appreciation Society". What an erudite chap Syd appears to be in this Vid.
SuperNevile 8 months ago
@FuckngBastard - Brian Jones was murdered, drowned by his personal assistant. Don't spread falsehoods. Jones was murdered. He didn't, "drown himself".
MrSamram3 8 months ago
@MrSamram3 oh fuck off idiot, no one knows exactly what happened, for you to claim as fact that he was murdered based on unconfirmed conspiracy theories is just retarded. Most likely accident, possibly suicide, possibly murder.
PutItAway101 7 months ago
@PutItAway101 Hey, watch the language, punk. That's just what I read a few months back. Then I read another story saying they weren't sure and that the builder's "deathbed" admission was fabricated. Chill out. At any rate, it doesn't really matter now, does it. The next Stones tour will be the Steel Wheelchairs Tour.
MrSamram3 7 months ago
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@FuckngBastard I'm sad your mother didn't abort you..
helloolleh555 7 months ago
gilmour looks terrible here.
countvonjustin 9 months ago
Ahh that makes sense
rahooligan 9 months ago
wow all these people must know david and syd personally what with their in depth knowledge of their life 50 50 years ago or wateever it was
eminence18 9 months ago
All one need do is listen to some Sid and then PF and then know that Gil is correct. In fact I have often thought about where Sid really did influence PF from the time years ago that I had first heard this idea. Yet as thing go in this world Sids spirit somehow still hovers around the thing. Maybe "We would slip slide away through the bordom and pain occasionally glancing up through the rain" Or just maybe PF had their own dark days to work out.
logarock 9 months ago
syd barret r i p july 2006
90alexcatalan 10 months ago
david is the best now pink isthe best, with syd bad ass much drugs
bilotin 10 months ago
@bilotin ..lol.. what the fuck are you trying to write
hurzum 10 months ago
WTF
9Iamthewalrus 11 months ago
He's held in high regard in Nelson, Lancashire. We like him.
sptfgpn 11 months ago
who wrote Arnold Lane? how dose it rank compared to something like animal.
Pink Floyd may have never achieved the epic writing they developed (Waters/Gilmore) it's hard to say if the band would have grown with Barrett and Waters...but i know it found something with Gilmore...undeniable
norton9411 11 months ago
if syd was still in pink floyd, we may have never gotten The Wall, Dark side of the moon or many other great albums.
brewerturbo 1 year ago
Syd was ahead of his time. If he would of gotten better and rejoined his band, pink floyd would have been more ambitious. Let's face it, the whole prog-rock thing got boring and ridicules after Wish You Where Here.
figocooldude 1 year ago 2
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I don't think Syd was brilliant at all. I think he was deranged with some mediocre talent and songwriting ability. After he tripped he became intolerable. Look at how the rest of his life ended up.
THeMaskedBlogCritic 1 year ago
David Gilmour did not intentionally try to overthrow Syd. They were friends since their teenage years. In interviews it has been stated over and over again that Syd was just becoming extremely difficult to work with. Also, if it weren't for Gilmour we wouldn't have "The Madcap Laughs" or "Barrett". He helped Syd so much with the recording of these two records. Its questionable whether they could've even been made without his help.
DoYouLikeTheRedRoom 1 year ago
fucking david. he can suck Syd's dick all day that fucking pretentious throne robber
MrYanny14 1 year ago
@MrYanny14, you are high. Syd Barret was great, without a doubt, but Gilmour is 100 times the guitarist and singer.
Codybear77 11 months ago
@Codybear77 You obviously know nothing about creativity, songwriting and vision, and yes, guitar playing. Gilmour is a complete and utter fraud as are the rest of this contrived, talentless band. The Wall is simply as bad as it gets, and don't get me started on Dark Side of the Moon. Syd was THE MAN.
sonicreducer5001 11 months ago
@sonicreducer5001 hey now brown cow. the sound changed drastically; no doubt there. i've heard better guitar players than gilmour, and i've heard better better vocalists than waters. but the wall is relevant social commentary.....even today.
pectinmania 10 months ago
Your arguments are subjective and sophomoric. The catalog detailing Gilmour's amazing guitar work is far greater than the wall and dark side of the moon. Thus, your argument is invalid, and you may insult me all you like. The fact that Gilmour is a far more expressive and creative musician will not be changed as a result.
Codybear77 10 months ago
Whatever the argument about Syd Barrett genius this or that, if he inspired Wish you were here and some other stuff then that's what happened, but him having a nervous breakdown and being unable to handle the music grind is nobodies fault even his. Pink Floyd became stratospheric once he was out of the band and that was perhaps a direct result of him leaving.
nat00ben06 1 year ago
i love syd but i know that it wasnt davids fault that he had to leave the band
boogerbear8766 1 year ago
If Gilmour thought the way you show in this clip why did he cover all of Syd's material in 2006 when he passed and why did he help record the majority of his solo stuff in the first place?
Caveira138 1 year ago
pink floyd would have gone nowhere without Gilmour. they were dead in the water till he showed up. barrett petered out and roger waters is a great writer but terrible musician.
OralAgreement69 1 year ago
i feel what happened is that syd took way too much acid one day when he was in a bad mood or depressed.... and went on a mental spiral into his famous meltdown.... we all know LSD has an ego destroying process and i believe this mega trip he was on, the ego killing process really just shattered his final straw of self confidence.. and he was never the same after that. he never felt the same around his friends, he probably felt worthless and probably thought they didnt want him around anymore
blessiththechily 1 year ago
@blessiththechily sad really.
NICK4206996 1 year ago
Gilmour is a fatass. Mr. cheeseburgers and donuts.
miamad 1 year ago
gilmore is jealous of syd. gilmore sang arnold lane a couple of years ago. it was syds song.
dunoon1954 1 year ago
@dunoon1954 its called a tribute
9Iamthewalrus 1 year ago
Yeah right lol! How many hours I've spent deciphering syds unique laconic style, gilmoir could have played in queen!! Lol no loss, but Syd? Slack jawed jokel, spoken in grumbling overtones, poet....
Imbude74 1 year ago
@Imbude74 try posting sober next time
PutItAway101 1 year ago
Ha ha i like how Syd head-butted Dave at the end. I'm sure i'd feel different if i had been around when they first emerged with Syd but there is Pink Floyd pre Syd's head-departure and post Syd-departure that is important in so many ways. Their material was mostly great right up until Waters started pissing people off and got thrown out or whatever,after that they were just plain dull. The Wall and Final Cut are obviously very selfish works but after Waters left they lost their balls altogether.
Greenless001 1 year ago
Sorry guys but the talent of gilmour is nothing compared to the one Syd barrett had.
I know this will upset a lot of fans!
udnddn 1 year ago 3
@udnddn unfortunately you are retarded. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200
PutItAway101 1 year ago
@PutItAway101
Unfortunately you are idiot!
udnddn 1 year ago
@udnddn what a stupid coment. it was like a kick in the nuts for someomeno who really knows the deeps of the psychedelia of master syd. please shut up
looksik 7 months ago
Shine on you crazy diamond.
FishieJoseph 1 year ago 5
Sorry, but just consider How many songs from "Syd barrett" period has been included in the album Echoes the best of Pink Floyd. Is a lot if you consider that with Syd barrett they did only 1 album.
Syd barrett relevance was still there even if Syd Roger Barrett wasn't there anymore. He has been always a presence for the band.
About gilmour! Don't know what to say. After Waters period...The gilmour one has been the most depressing one for the band.
udnddn 1 year ago 2
"Without Barrett Pink Floyd would be a blues band" richard wright
coldst 1 year ago 3
one word: sadly great
thtsritesun1212 1 year ago
Pink Floyd with Syd were great and all, but better than the later Floyd and their deep legendary albums? seriously?
unbreakable1mj 1 year ago
Syd should have trademarked the name he gave the band. His Pink Floyd-era songs would be just as well known and the others would have gone on to become architects.
Many people don't realize that Barrett's songs got lots of airplay and kept the band alive until Dark Side of the Moon came out. Perhaps if they'd dropped the stage theatrics and changed the catchy Barrett-penned band name his statement might be true.
Dave's a good guy but that was a really stupid thing to say.
Adominae 1 year ago
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Adominae 1 year ago
It's all hypothetical, but when these comments were made, Roger Waters and Richard Wright had already left the band. David Gilmour may very well have welcomed him back to get floyd's market appeal back.
OzDeist 1 year ago
....lol
llHuckleBuddyll 1 year ago
Gilmour was a closer friend to Barrett than any of the others.
ninyae 1 year ago
@ninyae I think it was actually Roger Waters who was the better friend. I've seen RW twice (Radio KAOS, Amused to Death) and Pink Floyd Lite once (Momentary Lapse) and RW was the one who played Syd Barrett clips during the live performances.
tenebrae23 1 year ago
@tenebrae23 You maybe right but I have seen Gilmour Floyd on film with Gilmour playing Barrett songs in more recent years and not just when he joined the band. There are clips of Gilmour doing Syd stuff, on You Tube. Gilmour supported Barrett to record in Abbey Rd for his solo material and reading Syd's bio's I get the impression that Gilmour was the greater friend but I guess none of us can really know unless we are in their heads.
ninyae 1 year ago
Just how hard IS it to understand that a few sec. long statement tells pretty much nothing about Gilmour's, or the band's, actual views on the whole subject? Everything one says has a context, reasons things are put the way they are, and it never equals everything we might have to say, given time and maybe a pen to write it down. I don't doubt David's general respect for Syd as a musician and a person. He doesn't seem to struggle too hard to find the exactly right words for things, though.
Mesmer1sed 1 year ago
what's with these Gilmoure haters? when people don't read or find out the real story behind anybody's life ..it's nor fair to publish these kind of stupid videos. READ YOU PEOPLE ..then judge and make your own conclusions. Stop being ignorant ,cus the result will turn you into a dumb ass''
MiCaCasTuCaCa 1 year ago 2
I agree that had to be taken out of context
Chronos127 1 year ago
@Chronos127 I think DG was referring to the type of style that the first album had - if they did another record like that, the Floyd's career wouldn't have went anywhere
TheDragonCult 1 year ago
This is an idiotic video. Gilmour's words are being taken out of context. He knew Syd since they were teenagers, and he's stated his respect for Syd as a person and musician scores of times. There's no need to make a video showing Syd headbutting Gilmour because Gilmour always had the deepest respect for Syd. Those of you who think Gilmour ever disrespected Syd are not very well-informed. This is the Pink Floyd, not the Jonas Brothers or Jersey Shore. Take your ill-informed gossip somewhere else
rahooligan 1 year ago 131
@rahooligan Syd was mentally ill and had to leave the band and someone had to fill his place, it was Gilmour, might have been anyone lese and Gilmour would have made it in anycase with another band or on his own even. PF looked after syd all of his life they gave him financial support and I did read that dyd was not envious of them after. The guy had an illness long term. Such is life. you cannot turn the clock back or change it
WELLBRAN 1 year ago
@rahooligan well it is certainly true that gilmour and pink floyd often credited syd, but what he says at the end of the video about barrett having "no relevance" to the band upon his departure is a bald-faced LIE.
obregado18 1 year ago
@rahooligan four years after barrett left, the floyd were in the musical wilderness composing exactly the same bodies of music as they had been in 1967, i.e elongated, eerie, musical portraits; albeit with an ostensible air of trying to emulate barrett's geniune feel for such creations, without the authentic sense of feeling. it wasn't until dark side of the moon in 73 that the floyd finally refined the creative style that saw them become one of the most successful rock bands of all time.
obregado18 1 year ago
@rahooligan i think that tells you all you need to know about syd having "no relevance" ..absolute balderdash. why would gilmour feel the need to say such a thing that is clearly not true?? well, we only lie when we have something to hide..
obregado18 1 year ago
@obregado18 doesn't matter u can sit around all day and listen to Syd Barrett's songs or Gilmour's I know who's I perfer.
nat00ben06 1 year ago
@nat00ben06 well i don't know which i prefer.. they're both brilliant
obregado18 1 year ago
@rahooligan really i think gilmour would laugh and enjoy this. don't be such a a starf*er.
glitchesandglitter 1 year ago
@rahooligan true
butch2112 1 year ago
@rahooligan
First off, maybe if David Gilmour didn't always say "When Syd left the band" people wouldn't be so inclined to hate him. Syd never "left" Floyd, he was replaced by one of his best friends, plan and simple. And anyone who thinks he was OK with that decision has apparently never heard "Here I go" off the "The Madcap Laughs" or seen any interviews by Syd after the fact. He was crushed.
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diedahero 11 months ago 11
Secondly, Gilmour has been quoted saying all kinds of fucked up shit about Syd, this is far from the first, or taken out of context.
He's been quoted as saying that the work he helped with on the Madcap was pointless because Syd was too far gone to make coherent music but to try and help him was the least he could do, and he's been quoted more than once saying that Syd's relevance to Floyd was gone by Dark Side of the Moon.
David Gilmour = Asshole!
diedahero 11 months ago
@diedahero from what i've read gilmour was the only original member of the band that put any effort into making sure barrett received his royalty checks. perhaps barrett's relevance waned, but character counts for a lot.
pectinmania 10 months ago
@pectinmania
As far as I know the royalty story was proven false, under the pretense that the checks would've been deposited directly into an account from day one. (Is what other band members claim)
But they were still assholes, and that's how a story like that got out in the first place. What about how every single member says they didn't recognize Syd at all when he randomly showed up at the Wish You Were Here recordings? Maybe if they bothered to visit him over the 7 years they would have
diedahero 10 months ago 7
@diedahero what do you mean the royalty story is false? where did you get that idea?
musicdork4ever 9 months ago
@musicdork4ever
I was just saying I doubt Syd's royalties were ever in question by the other band members, considering all the royalties from the two albums and four EP's the Floyd were undoubtedly directly deposited into a account for him. I don't know this to be a fact, but it makes sense to me.
diedahero 9 months ago
@diedahero I guess there is no convincing someone who is determined to hate. The royalty story was never questioned, let alone proven false. Syd lived comfortably until the end of his days, because he had plenty of money thanks to the efforts of his FRIENDS. (the other Floyd members) They LOVED Syd, but he could not continue as a musician with his mental issues.
Mozart1220 7 months ago
@Mozart1220
So now we've dissolved into a conversation you started yourself and I never even responded to? Well I don't worry, I don't have any interviews on youtube to pull up to prove the rest of the stopped caring about Syd as a friend. I do however have the fact that Syd's royalties were directly deposited into an account and not hand delivered by his ex-band mates as you've stated in your fantasy world. Oh, and you can CAPITALIZE any word you wish, friends tend to visit.
diedahero 7 months ago
@diedahero Please refer us to where I said anyone "hand delivered" royalties. I merely stated that Gilmour made sure that Syd's royalties were honored. Thier management at the time was not exactly honest about alot of things, and Gilmour (and the rest of the band) wanted to make sure Syd got his due. You guys are looking for a scapegoat where there is none. Barrett was a genius, but the other band members didn't force him to take all those drugs. Stop blaming the innocent.
Mozart1220 7 months ago
@Mozart1220
A: Who's "you guys?"
B: You were the one who started this by insisting that an album named after Syd's mental breakdown wasn't about him in anyway. Even when shown direct evidence of this, you've stated this could somehow be interpreted another way.
C: You've now hooked your trailer up to the idea his royalties were ever in question by me, which they weren't, and that somehow his ex-band members were the one's who made sure everything was on the up and up, which they weren't
diedahero 7 months ago
@diedahero Syd was tripping on LSD and was not performing. You make it sound like they set out to destroy him..he did it to himself sad to say. The way the dumped him wasn't the best, but then how do you talk to someone who is not there half the time? Of course Syd was crushed, but it was a whole year before he cleaned his act up enough to produce madcap. The previous recording was so messed up that they could not salvage it even when he was sober.
AbagOfonions 6 months ago
@diedahero - It so happens Syd's family requested the band refrain from contact, quoting Syd got "upset" when reminded of his time with the band. This of course after Gilmour and Waters helped produce his solo album. reportedly Syd's physical appearance changed radically over the next 6 yrs, described by someone outside the band as a "balding fat-guy" who "wasnt all there". your comments reveal your lack of insight, and are a showcase of your ignorance. Died a hero maybe, but lived a fool.
weincke01 6 months ago
@weincke01
A: There's an interview in the Jan. 95 issue of Guitar World in which the band quoted themselves as saying they deiced to just not pick Syd up for a show and that's how the they began kicking Syd out of the band. Sounds super friendly.
B: I've never read an interview where Syd or a family member of his has said this. I know Gilmore is fond of saying it, but these words have never been put into print. And Syd left the arguments with David on the main mix of Feel for a reason.
diedahero 6 months ago
@diedahero Let's do B first..;o) I agree - this is Gilmours statement, but did you ever read an interview where Syd or family member expressed anything to the contrary? That they in fact missed having the rest of the Floyds around? I think not. Now to A. Yes, as Mason puts it, one day they just drove past his house. Well, according to everyone in and around the band, as well as a multitude of people who witnessed the decline of Pink Floyd Mk I, they had a pretty good reason for doing so.
weincke01 6 months ago
@weincke01
So your rebuttal is I've also never heard them say they didn't? I can give 1,000 examples of David Gilmore being shown as an asshole and a lair. This video alone is a healthy example. Do you think it was happenstance that Syd showed up at the Wish you Were Here recordings? A mutual friend clearly told him about what they were working on and he probably said, Fuck it, you wanta see how crazy I am assholes, take a look. But the poor bastard couldn't even get that much. Nice pun btw
diedahero 6 months ago
@diedahero Seriously - I'm just pointing out your point whether or not the Floyds were missed at the Barrett household has little weight as it could be used either way. Same goes for your next statement that "clearly" someone told Syd asf.. Clearly to whom? Not to me at this point..;o) It may be clear to you, but if you want me to buy into it you'll have to back it up.. What do I know - you might be right, but I've read much about this band and never come across this line before.
weincke01 6 months ago
@weincke01
It's called character evaluation and common sense. Gilmore has tried to devalue Syd's influence to Floyd from the 1st day he stepped foot into the band. He is literally saying these words on this interview.
As to the WYWH recordings, if you don't believe that someone who knew what the band's theme for the new record was and told Syd; the only other option is that he randomly deiced to show up to where he supposedly didn't want to be reminded of. Yeah, that makes total sense.
diedahero 6 months ago
@diedahero Syd left the band by becoming totally unable to play live and unable to contribute in the studio. If you can't play, sing, or write, you not *in* the band in any meaningful sense. There is little point taking a mentally ill man around on tour with you to make a laughing stock of himself. What could he possibly be in the band, a mascot?
PutItAway101 7 months ago
@PutItAway101
I guess you've never had a friend lose it before, because if you did, you'd know they need support, not to have to rug pull from underneath them. Could Sid have continued with they Floyd? Maybe, maybe not. Should his band invited another singer/songwriter to rehearsals without telling Syd, even if the guy was Syd's friend from childhood, certainly not.
They kept his music style, they kept his imagery, they kept his songs, all they got rid of was Syd.
diedahero 7 months ago
@diedahero How many Syd songs did they play live after he "left"? ONE. The music changed dramatically, and obviously Syd would never have written the cynical lyrics Roger does. How can you say they "kept" everything? Syd checked out mentally, just like Lennon at the end of the Beatles. People have time and effort invested, do you expect them to just quit because one member decides drugs are more important?
Mozart1220 7 months ago
@Mozart1220
Well first off, they play way more than just one live song off of The Piper at the Gates of Dawn and A Saucerful of Secrets. In fact, I watched a performance in which they played Arnold Layne, Interstellar Overdrive (which was Syd's fucking baby) and See Emily Play. And do you think it's a coincidence that two of the three were Billboard chart hits?
They played those songs for the same reason they wouldn't rename the band, they knew their own marketability. Which Syd created.
diedahero 7 months ago
@Mozart1220 Cont.
Secondly, Pink Floyd had four records that completely flopped critically and it wasn't until they wrote an album about Syd, Dark side of the moon, that people even noticed them again. Without Syd this was an average to a below average band of hypocrites.
diedahero 7 months ago
@diedahero Oh come off it. Firstly, saying that they fell off the charts until Dark Side is untrue. Secondly, calling them an "average to below average band of hypocrites" is just plain BS. "Meddle" would be a good album to refute both of these claims. Fairly popular album, great songs, no Syd Barrett. Specifically, "Echoes" had nothing to do with Syd Barrett and is one of the best tracks the band ever released.
JPizzle1490 7 months ago
@JPizzle1490
Soundtrack from the Film More: A bullshit soundtrack.
Ummaguamma: Didn't reach gold until five years after release.
Atom Heart Mother: Didn't reach gold until 24 years after release.
Meddle: Actually managed to reach gold in three years (still two years longer than any "popular" record should reach the million mark) but at least Syd was still alive when it crossed over.
Obscured by Clouds: Another bullshit soundtrack.
So, I'm glad you liked them. But no one else did.
diedahero 7 months ago
@diedahero The time it takes for and album to reach an gold or platinum is not a good argument. Nobody liked Van Gough until years after he died, but you don't hear people saying, "Oh well, it took his art X years to make it into X museum so clearly he's not really popular". Same thing can be said of Mozart or Schumann or any number of other artist. Besides, popularity has nothing to do with musical integrity anyways, that's an ad populum argument and therefore fallacious cont'd.
JPizzle1490 7 months ago