I don't support the attempt to paint Geert Wilders & Robert Spencer as "racists".
And I don't ignore the "muslim bashing " references, most muslims & their supporters conveniently consider truthful criticism of their religion "muslim bashing". It's meant to silence criticism.
If the OIC has their way it will soon be illegal to criticize islam at all. Then all of this will be moot, won''t it?
Then people will wish they had supported Geert Wilders & Robert Spencer, but it will be too late.
I enjoy your videos, but it concerns me that you would have pictures of Geert Wilders and Robert Spencer displayed as 'racists' and those with 'hateful agendas'.
Both have been strong supporters of CEMB and those brave individuals who, like yourself, dare to use your freedom of speech to criticize islam.
I hope you will more carefully research what both men have actually stated, and separate it from the falsehoods and gossip being spread by certain antagonists.
@AlSalibiyyah I should have stated, "Both have been strong supporters of GROUPS LIKE CEMB..." as I do not know their positions on council of ex-muslims of Britain...
They have been outspoken in defending the rights of those who wish to leave islam.
@MrMassyle These men speak the truth about an intolerant & violent ideology. They are not "anti-freedom of religion".
They have gone above & beyond to protect the rights & freedom of apostates, which makes me wonder why the author of this video would portray them as antagonists while speaking about the rights of apostates to speak out.
The Fitna film only used the words terrorists use to justify their attacks on innocent people.
@AlSalibiyyah your'e right, but i can see why people view geert wilders as an extremist. he makes a lot of statements that seem that way, and for instance his latest proposal for taxing headscarves was a bit of a stupid move.
however, the core of his argument is absolutely valid, and in my view, doesn't go far enough, as it doesn't include other religions that are just as mad (being all)
@discussislam I replied to my own comment, correcting saying they support groups LIKE CEMB.
Their records speak for themselves. Both Geert and Robert have come out supporting Apostates and their right to criticize islam. Anyone familiar with either man will know that.
I recommend you read JihadWatch (dot) org or Geert's own speeches and statements. Both have vilified by our PC media.
@discussislam Pam Geller, close associate of Robert Spencer (they are partners of Freedom Defense Initiative), has been in contact and received support from CEMB members.
Youtube doesn't allow lengthy comments or links. So it is difficult to direct readers to specific pages.
I just suggest, before smearing the names of people trying to protect and defend free speech, you take the time to learn more about them.
I admire your courage in making the decision to step away from a religion you don't feel is right for you, and for vocalising your views in such a clear, honest and fair-handed way. I suspect a lot of the comments here criticisng your decision may in part come from those fearful of making such a break themselves.
I see another bunch of yobs turned out for the opening of the new mosque in Harrow, were you there Deah? How do you feel about supporting the muslim bashers now DiscussIslam? Well done, you must be proud. Kep up the good work.
I Don't live anywhere near Harrow. Not even the right country. I don't give a crap about who turned up for what. Islam oppresses atheists, murders apostates and wishes to eradicate polytheists from the face of the planet. Whoever turned up for you mosque opening is uninteresting. If you want to call them "yobs" that's okay, but you'll have to see them every friday, not me. I am proud to stand up for Human Rights and against the tyranny of Islam. Glad you appreciate us. Tammy.
Anyone who doesnt like death threats and insults, I would advise them not to post inflammatory videos on youtube, regardless of religion, status, or whatever. You are far more likely to come across videos like yours than be accosted by a leaflet distributor. But what is the difference between the two? You both want to 'spread the word' - right? You say your family are Muslims, and that you don't want to hurt them - well, tell me, how do they feel about your videos?
"Anyone who doesnt like death threats and insults, I would advise them not to post inflammatory videos on youtube" - spoken like a true Muslim bigot. This guy posts videos and you can't help running your mouths till you PROVE every word he says about you is 100% RIGHT! I can see why so many people are leaving Islam, if it's full of retards like you, TammyLyn4u.
My videos are not inflammatory imho - Islamic literature that says - for example - Christians and Jews who reject Islam are "the worst of creatures" [Bayyinah:6] and will burn in Hell are far more inflammatory.
Most of my family don't really have a big problem with me expressing my views. Fortunately they - and indeed a good many other Muslims - understand we live in a free world where ppl should be able to express their views without receiving death threats.
You say that you have a right to be an apostate withour fear of abuse and intimidation? I agree, but would it be fair to say that the only intimidation and abuse you have received as an ex Muslim is because you keep ranting about it on Youtube and other places? Why not you do your thing, and others do theirs without the running commentary?
We all have a right to air our views and opinions. All I do is make some Youtube videos and don't knock on doors or pass out leaflets on a Da'wa stall.
Are you suggesting that it is fair that I should be threatened, inditmidated, attacked or even killed because of that?
Does this apply to anyone who shares their views - including the many Muslims here on youtube or the many Muslims standing in High Streets giving Da'wa?
He's got every right to speak about his experiences with Islam as an ex-Muslim. He's "doing his thing". He's not stopping you from doing yours, is he? If you don't like hearing the truth, close youtube and open the Koran because you'll get as much of the other stuff as you want there. If he wants to enlighten others about the faults, lies and xenophobia within Islam, then we WELCOME it!
I think you are doing a good job and not biased. I have seen too much criticism of Christianity and as someone who was brought up a Muslim, I would think "of course, because Christianity is a false religion" but when it comes to Islam there are mainly two groups. Non Muslims who criticise Islam to promote their own religion and Athiests who often fail to connect with a skeptical Muslim because of their lack of iinsight in Islam. You my friend, have a niche like no one else.
I'd like to say something - "Athiests who often fail to connect with a skeptical Muslim because of their lack of iinsight in Islam" - it's not about insight in Islam. Islamic law calls for the extermination of apostates, atheists and polytheists or "pagans". No amount of "insight" can make up for that. One either endorses this kind of genocide or one doesn't. Anyone, atheist, muslim or otherwise who stands against this brutality is a person we should "connect with". Good comment though.
I understand where you are coming from about Islam's view of non Muslims. But by "insight" I meant a cultural Islam; as it is practiced by Muslims across the world, with traditions and customs. To some Muslims Islam is part of their identity, if they lose it, it leaves a big void. I must also admit I find some atheists (ex. faith freedom. org) are very biased to paint a very horrid picture of Islam. Like every religion Islam prescribes methods for self defense and war. Continued...
But When you are brought up in a Muslim Household, you are brainwashed to believe that Islam is the ultimate solution for all humanity. That it is the most peaceful and tolerant of all religions. This persons (discussislam's) videos usually start discussing a Muslim's point of view, then slowly dissects it with reason and logic. I find it very refreshing. Its better than the usual "fuck Islam" types.
All true. But on the sharp end of Islam's "kill the kufar" sentiment, it's very easy to think "fuck Islam". As an atheist, I too have what you might call a "horrid picture" of Islam based on what Islam says about me and people like me. If someone rejects religion, it's there right to do so without the fear of being killed for their beliefs. Atheists are not "good people" simply by virtue of being atheist. It just means they don't believe in "Gods". Atheists can be both evil or "good".
It's funny how many Muslims in the UK I talk to who say "Oh no, I wouldn't want Shari'ah law here!" - how illogical is that? They believe in this religion, but don't want God's laws?
But what would happen if a majority DID vote an Islamic party into power, what if that party changed the official religion of the UK to Islam?
I suspect it isn't actually as easy as it might sound, but I am not clued up on such a procedure.
You need to research before you comment. In the 1930s, Churchill was a very aggresive opponent of Hitler and the Nazis while it was still expedient for many European governments to talk of getting along with Germany at all costs. Chaimberlain himself came back from Germany with his "peace in out time" statement which everyone was only too happy accept. Many saw Churchill as an unpleasent noise threatening their chance to ignore Hitler. "Sorry if that collapses your argument a bit".
OrangeFuzz: You talk so much crap, I'd be surprised if there's any difference between your head and your arse at all. You've probably just got one "all purpose orifice" that doubles for both...
Islam is slavery. It's not important what Islam means to those who want to be part of it - what IS important is how Islam treats those people who DON'T want to be part of it. Some slaves may not want liberty, but that doesn't mean that those who do want freedom should be denied their human rights. No ideology, religious or otherwise, has the right to "own" human beings and to "punish" them for rejecting it! We need to support ex-Muslims everywhere.
Do you "contribute to violence against Muslims" by being fair and open in your criticism? Did Churchill get criticised for "contributing to violence against Nazis" when he stood up to Hitler back in the 1930s? YES, actually many "interested parties" called him a "hate monger". History sees him differently. You are doing good work! As an atheist, I appreciate what you're doing to illustrate the contradictions and oppression within Islam. Keep doing what you're doing.
This video does not discus anything, why dont you show a video where all the good muslims are when some idiots want sharia law in a western society. I NEVER HEAR THEM.
No, you're right, but if you compare the birth rate of Muslims with most other demographics and you will see that they have a higher birth rate than most.
We got a problem discussislam. The Muslim has eight children per family while the caucasian has one child per family.
When the population is Muslim the religion of Islam will have to be rough to keep their own down.
They are doing this now by spreading Sharia law in Europe and if you do a poll on radical places of worship for Islam in the U.K. and they find that around 50-80% are radical.
Can you guess what the radical percentage is in the Middle East?
Dear Hassan, I think you are a beautiful person, but I am sorry to tell you there are many things I do not agree with .You claim that Islam is not a dangerous ideology when in fact Islam IS a very dangerous ideology.I find this an insult to those brave women that died trying to shake off this absurd religion.
That is how most people are. The point is, you need to look beyond religious and national labels in order to fully appreciate that most people are, by nature, decent and peaceful.
The point is to differentiate between deeds which can be attributed to Islam as a religion, and deeds which are carried out by people who profess the faith.
E.g.: does Roman Catholicism require priests to rape young choir boys? I don't think so, but they do it nevertheless. Does Islam allow muslims to kill non-muslims who are not engaged in battle or open hostility? It does not, and those that do so are in contravention of the faith.
hasan i think it would be better you block me again , because you seem like a good human being , but i will not be able to control myself considering the fact kind of illogical argument and lies that muslims say on this channel , it is better you block me and i will not make account again , i promise .
hmt4444, all I can say in response is that you are making wild claims in order to justify wild and irrational anger and hatred. You need to get over the anger and find a way to reach out to your muslim compatriots instead of spreading hatred and misinformation about them.
I've worked with many Indians before (hindus, muslims & sikhs) and I saw nothing but friendship and respect from them.
i knew you would say this that was why i asked you to read history of islamic invasion in india yourself , but you insisted on that i should give you proof ,
i am not surprised , musllims always had trouble with TRUTH ,
i would like everyone to read for himself about islamic invasion in india and meanning of HINDUKUSH mountain.
if you ever come to india , i will show you the mosques where is it inscribed that after destroying which temple this mosque was built.
But you can't blame all Muslims today for the acts of some in the past - just like you can't blame modern Christians for the fact that in the past churches were built on destroyed pagan temples.
yup you are dead right , i can not and i should not blame muslims for the act of some in the past , but it is not they have stopped doing it ,
all you need is to go through the history of kashmir ,
how in 1989 kashmiri hindus were ethnically cleasned by the muslims ,
all you have to read where the entire hindu population in bangladesh is gone , recently 14 hindus girls were abducted in pakistan and forcefully converted to islam ,
I certainly don't deny that some horrible stuff goes on - I stick my neck out to condemn it publicly for God's sake! But I say again, please don't use the nasty things to make sweeping generalisations about Muslims.
"I've worked with many Indians before (hindus, muslims & sikhs) and I saw nothing but friendship and respect from them."
well that's how indians are , they are not brought up to hate others unlike muslims who teach their children that jews are pigs and islam is the only and true religion and all other religion are lies.
You make sweeping generalizations about Muslims. Most Muslims I know are very respectful to other faiths. You can't judge all Muslims by the nasty stuff in the Qur'an. There is lots of nasty stuff in most ancient scripture, but it doesn't mean all the followers are nasty. Muslims just like most religious people, explain away most of the nasty stuff in one way or another.
I am a very patient and open minded person and I have no problem with anyone's opinion - but please remain polite and respectful and try to limit the number of your posts as you are clogging up my channel - If you can't then I will block you again - thanks.
@rationaldude all the things i wrote below were taken from the book of islamic writers and scholors , just so you start thinking that these are taken from any book of hindu writer ( apart from 1971thing which was taken from a hindu writer).
as i said after reading history of islam in india any reasonable non muslim wil start hating islam.
"In Kanauj there were nearly 10,000 temples, which the idolaters falsely and absurdly represented to have been founded by their ancestors two or three hundred thousand years ago.Many of the inhabitants of the place fled and were scattered abroad like so many wretched widows and orphans, from the fear which oppressed them, in consequence of witnessing the fate of their deaf and dumb idols. Many of them thus effected their escape, those who did not fly were put to death
as i wrote earlier the term HINDUKUSH refers to the killing of hindus by muslims invaders. historians estimate that during the last 1000 yrs of invasion of islam ,
It is ridiculous to attribute a disparity in population growth to genocide. A genocide happens when members of a group (usually ethnic) are systematically killed on the basis of their ethnicity.
In any case, the conflict in the sub-continent was instigated largely by the British for geo-political considerations. The reasons were more secular and political than religious.
By what logic do you find Islam responsible for this?
"A famous idol of theirs was that of Multan, dedicated to the sun, and therefore called Aditya. It was of wood and covered with red Cordovan leather; in its two eyes were two red rubies. It is said to have been made in the last Kritayuga . contd.......
When Muhammad Ibn Alkasim Ibn Almunaibh conquered Multan, he inquired how the town had become so very flourishing then he found out that this idol was the cause, for there came pilgrims from all sides to visit it. Therefore he thought it best to have the idol where it was, but he hung a piece of cow's flesh on its neck by way of mockery. On the same place a mosque was built. When the Karmatians occupied Multan, Jalam Ibn Shaiban, the usurper, broke the idol into pieces and killed its priests"
In 1193, the Nalanda University complex was destroyed by Turkish Muslim invaders under Bakhtiyar Khalji; this event is seen as the final milestone in the decline and near extinction of Buddhism in India. He also burned Nalanda's a major Buddhist library and Vikramshila University, as well as numerous Bhuddhist monasteries in India.
"On reaching Dawar, he surrounded the enemy in the mountain of Zur, where there was a famous Hindu temple." "...Their idol of Zur was of gold, and its eyes were two rubies. The zealous Musalmans cut off its hands and plucked out its eyes, and then remarked to the Marzaban how powerless was his idol..."
"...The town was thus taken by assault, and the carnage endured for three days. The governor of the town, appointed by Dahir, fled and the priests of the temple were massacred. Muhammad marked a place for the Musalmans to dwell in, built a mosque, and left 4,000 Musalmans to garrison the place..."
referring to events in the area when Islam took over the area
name "Hindu Kush" only comes into use after the Islamic invasions begin. The name Hindu Kush is not recorded before c.1330.
As 'kush' means 'killing' in old Persian, most sources state it means Hindu-Killer because of the killing of many Hindus by Islamic invaders in these areas and vast number of Hindu slaves who perished in passing its snows while being taken by Islamic invaders
Of the missing 3.5 million people (if not more), 1.1 million can be explained: it is the number of Hindu refugees settled in India prior to the genocide.
Taking into account a number of Hindu children born to refugees in India rather than in Bangladesh, and a possible settlement of 1971 refugees in India, it is fair to estimate the disappeared Hindus at about 2 million.
If you look at the preceding verse to the one you quoted, you will see that it is talking about those who are in a state of aggression with muslims, and those who had previously reneged on agreements.
also, look at 9:6 and you will see that it instructs muslims to give protection to those that seek it, and to escort them to safety.
Why did you quote 9:5 on its own, without referencing 9:4 and 9:6, which provide the full meaning to 9:5?
book "Hindu Genocide in East Pakistan" convincingly that the number of Hindu victims in the 1971 genocide was approximately 2.4 million, or about 80%. In comparing the population figures for 1961 and 1971, and taking the observed natural growth rhythm into account, author finds that the Hindu population has remained stable at 9.5 million when it should have increased to nearly 13 million (13.23 million if the same growth rhythm were assumed for Hindus as for Muslims). contd...
Nobody forces you to watch these videos. Why do you watch them if you get so agitated by them? Ignore them!
If my favourite fruit is orange, and yours is banana, what gives you the right to become angry if I say that orange is the best fruit? no-one is forcing you to eat oranges instead of bananas, just as no-one is forcing you to believe in islam instead of hinduism.
So why do you want to stop muslim preachers from saying that islam is the best path to God?
good question , your favourite fruit is orange , how about if i told you that eating orange would take you to hell and eating banana is only way to heaven,
yup , you are right , i went nuts beacuse hasan said islam poses no threat .
read history of islam in india and any reasonable non muslim will hate islam.
how is islam responsible for genocide of hindus,
here you go
"When the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush." (Koran 9:5)
@Ossadawn, let me ask you.. if Islam is half dog shit and half ice cream, does the half dog shit turns the entire Islam into ice cream or the ice cream turns into dog shit?
I hold the latter to be teh truth. Islam is dog shit.
Please make your point without using such language. I am getting a little tired of all the insults and slanging matches going on here. I don't check here often but when I do and I see anyone using insults or foul language I will delete and block them - thanks.
hmt4444, ur happy only when hassan is explicitly hostile to islam and muslims, unhappy when he shows a little moderation. why r u so extremist and hateful?
you will say that it was in past , but Islam is still ruining India , Islamic terrorists are still killing hindus whether it is in temples or in the market.
after that people have the audacity to come here and islam is religion of peace , BS, total BS ,
i was very very innocent (thinking all people , religion are same ) and ISLAM has robbed me of my innocence and i will never ever pardon ISLAM for that.
NEVER.
that's why when hasan blocked me I made new acnt .
and talking about hasan , he should know it is not he who is responsible for the hatred towars muslims , it is the islamic preacher who are responsible for the hatred towars musims ,
it is the people who put up propaganda video that islam is the only truth are responsible for the hatred towards islam . not hasan and hasan thanks for blocking me , not a single thing that i wrote here was a lie and you still block me.
It's interesting that Pat Condell has this video in his favourites. He could learn a lot from what it says, because he's an example of what the video above is warning about. People who are so bitterly against something (in Condell's case, against all Religion) that they focus solely on and exagerrate negative cases and whip up such a storm of fear and anger, then thrive on the attention it gets them from viewers who's thought processes become distorted from all the hype,that they see a hero.
Ossadawn, you said "people focus only on the negative aspects" after all the genocides , violence committed in the name of Islam , I do not see how can anyone keep on defending such a fascist cult.
Pat tells the truth, you need to hear it. Only 1 victim of Islam would be enough for me to despise it, but Islam has millions of victims not just one.
Victims of secularism, capitalism, commercialism are more than 1. Locally & Internationally. Is that enough for you to disown it, as there is overwhelming evidence of how it exploits not only human bodys and minds as - "human resources", but their well being to benefit fat cats at the top who laugh at the serfs scrabbling each day just to get by, told they live in a glorious utopia of freedom. A comfy sofa and a widescreen TV, isn't liberty.
hmt444, you called AmdanAbla illiterate for saying osacar instead of oscar, but you wrote "coward righting behind my back so i wouldn't be able to reply you". Don't you mean writing instead of righting? Shouldn't it be "reply to you" instead of "reply you"?
Pot, kettle, black? People who live in glass houses, stones?
@rationaldude you have not read correctly , i did not call amdan illierate for misspelling , i called him so because he said that movie WATER has won an oscar , which is not true at all.
as far as my committing mistakes , english is not my first language , i am still learning ,
by your account all the chinese and japanese are illiterates , which we know is not true,
Another thing I like to make it clear,I learned my English by commenting videos on youtube(I`m not joking)I know its not perfect and if you referring this illiteracy,I`ll accept that too,Cheers!
AmdanAbla99, are you a follower of the cult of Islam?. Islam advocates wife beating, that alone would be enough for me to reject such filth. Islam talks about murdering infidels, it is poison.
You are quite brainwashed not to see that. Islam offers only poison to the world, nothing more.
This is from your previous comments to this video:"i am sorry i disagree with you there is no moderation in islam all muslims are extremists."
I hope nobody takes your bullshits seriously.There are millions of muslims,who even doesnt know how to prey,never been in a mosque and no idea about qurans teachings Not only today,for centuries,for example Alevi`s of Turkey called themselves muslim,never cared about sharia rules,more focused on morality and humanism
Whatever I claim about Hindus,everybody free to do their own reserches.Now shut up and go and sacrifie a child for shakti or Kali !!! And stop calling me muslim(Becouse I`m not)
yup you are a muslim , i am fed up of these so called muslims coming on channels and commenting " i am not a muslim but i know that islam is a religion of peace"
LMAO
you are a follower of peadophile , kidfucker and a massmurderer and you know that.
Like all religions which started a couple of thousand years ago, Hinduism also had elements in the distant medieval and ancient times which were foolish, like sacrifice etc. But what is different to Hindus today from Muslims is the degree to which the common Hindu on the street agrees with those beliefs. If you see most Hindus, they are hardworking professionals practising their personal beliefs PRIVATELY. They do not want to KILL and MAIM innocents, and CONQUER the world by killing infidels.
My mother is 65,call herself muslim.Never covered herself(she even enjoyed wearing mini skirts in her youth),never preyed,never vent pilgrimage.She thinks qurans orders were for muhammadan time doesnt apply todays circumstances.
She tells,we have to change while world and cicumstances change.Basically she is like one of the peacefull Hindus in the street,peacefull,like you,like me,like many others!!!
further more , whatever you stated here like dowry death and sikh riots has nothing to do with hinduism ,
no society is perfect and neither indian society is ,
i never said indian society is perfect but what is imporatant that we try to improve it by making laws like we did in the cases of dowry deaths , this is called evolution ,
After seing some Hindu biggots attacking entire muslim community and accusing all muslims with being criminals made me really mad.I`m an ex-muslim atheist, but this doesnt mean I`ll be stand by silent when the other extremists will hide or justify or forget their own horrific crimes.I like to give some quotes and statistics who is more inhuman,who is more evil.I will not talk about Sikh pogroms in Delhi,Kanpur or other cities which15.000 slaugtered after Indra Gandi`s assasination.
Neither the massacres of Gujarat,mumbai muslims in 2002 organised by Hindu exremist Bharatia Janata Party,neither the turmoils took place after the destruction of Babri Masjid by Hindu exremists in Ayodhya.
Incredible enough, thousands of women still die in India every year in the hands of their own husbands because their family couldnt meet the economic expectations of their in-laws. Many of these cases were brought to the light after the efforts of different associations and individuals, fighting to eradicate at once dowry deaths. Most of them, though, remained unknown and whats more important, unpunished, because of the conscientious effort of the ruling elite to hide them.
Namrata was 22 years old and a middle class graduate when she married Vivek in 1980 in Dehli, one of the most conservative cities in India. Vivek and his family were not happy with the dowry they had received from Namratas family and started torturing her as soon as she got pregnant. In a visit to Namratas parents, Vivek demanded a scooter on the birth of the child. Her parents didnt give in to his demands. Two days later,Namrata was found dead in her kitchen. Her body was badly burnt.
As in the Namrata case, Vimalas murder didnt go unpunished. For Vimala the harassment started right after the wedding. Her family couldnt meet the dowry demands of her in-laws. After less than a year of marriage and eight months pregnant, Vimalas mother in-law soaked her in kerosene and set her aflame. She was sentenced to life imprisonment Depika Singh August 24,2000
I can write more and more,despite of being prohibited since mid 19 th century,such practices like suttee,human sacrifice still contiue.And they still have guts to accuse all muslims with extremity.Stop scapegoating millons of peacefull muslims for a handful bastards.
Sura (8:12) - "I will cast TERROR ( terror is mentioned many times in the quran) into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads( and strike off every fingertip of them"
Sura (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast TERROR into the hearts of the Unbelievers
I have read the quran and the hadiths, I see Islam as extremely dangerous. The time to confront Islam for the sick cult it is has come. Does this sound like peaceful to any of you? sura 9 : 111 Allah hath purchased of the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of Paradise): they FIGHT in HIS CAUSE, and KILL and they are KILLED : a promise
-"irrational fear, hatred and prejudice toward those who are different that pose the biggest threat to our freedom"-
Like those who do not believe in allah or the last day, even if they are people of the book and must be fought until they pay the tax and are feel themselves subdued?
Islam itself is a dangerous theocratic ideology that poses the biggest threat to freedom, as evidenced by the levels of tolerance, equality, creativity, education, productivity and human rights in "islamic" states.
you are right,I`m sorry ! My responce all those who thinks criticising islam is comdemning entire muslim world. I will continue later.There are lots to say about this hypocrsy of so called anti-muslims!
The video answered the question itself, be silent!. Funny how you're called Discussislam and yet - you don't. Maybe change to 'I'll tell you about Islam'. I think I can guess why you don't bother replying, because it's a waste of time, and that also answers the question.
Why he should bother to answer? He already criticises islam and the extremists.But you and the ones who has your mentality want him to perpetrate hatred and violance against all muslims and middle east descendents(many of them are not religious,even not muslim anymore).First picture in the video is a good example,this is the scene you and your supporters want to see and you want him to praise this kind of racist acts.You are worst than those exremist muslims.
I feel bad for this guy, he is very confused. One question, why do you think those who expose Islam and the violence contained in the quran are "bigoted", but you have nothing to say about all those Muslims killing READING VERSES from the quran? Why you have nothing to say about all those Muslims SCREAMING "behead" those who insult Islam?
The truth is people are fed up with the list of atrocities committed by the wonderful"religion of peace"
Your choice of title is interesting because it raises not only the issue of whether you should speak your mind, but also whether your critics should speak theirs.
You say you are hurt by the accusations levelled against you.
So the question is this: why should someone who thinks that your videos cause wider hatred spare your feelings by not speaking out, when you clearly reserve the right to speak out irrespective of the hurt caused?
Utterly shameful. You can't refute this mans arguments, you can't call him a liar or immoral, and you can't denounce him as a christian or zionist with an agenda so you resort to trying to guilt tripping him into silence
"...when someone...is looking to ..stir up a backlash..."
This is precisely the point I made to Hassan when I said that he represents an entry point which legitimizes and provides headroom for the more severe forms of bigotry.
IMO, Hassan's form of hate dissemination is even more dangerous than the gratuitous form practiced by the nutjobs, because they are clearly identifiable, whereas his poison is delivered much more discreetly.
It's more dangerous because you can't refute him or denounce him as a liar with an agenda. He's a genuine moral man who's former Muslim who knew the religion very well and you can't deal with that.
If you weren't such a hypocrite you'd be requesting all pro-Islamic videos on youtube be taken down since many muslims source Quran and Hadith as an excuse for forms of bigotry around the globe.
@TheQuranSaysMoo, I may take your comments a little more seriously if your alias didn't make your bigotry so transparent. Bigots such as yourself are in no position to lecture anyone on morality and ethics.
It doesnt make me a bigot to think a book or belief is stupid. You've no idea what I believe.
You just proved my point. Because of my name you can brush me off easily enough, yet with Hassan you can't. He scares you because your afraid of others leaving the fold of Islam as you find validation for your beliefs in seeing people join and thinking that people against it are ignorant or have an agenda.
If all indiviuals can't stay anything criticizing islam, maybe it is time for the quran to remove the verses that criticize human behavior and other religions. If islam demands respect by asking for no criticism, maybe the quran should do the same and not mention or disrepest other religions. It is called mutual respect. That goes for the bible too.
the quran would need to remove half of the content. It is vile and misogynstic. Over 100 verses full of violence against unbelievers. Islam is hate speech directed to non-muslims and women.
"Has it ever crossed your mind that his reasons for leaving Islam and producing these videos might not be any of your business?"
No, you're right, it isn't and neither is it yours, we wouldn't even be aware of it if it wasn't the fact that he puts up these videos, and thereby into the public domain to comment on.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
Islamia school must have provided a good living for him for a long time. Bearing that in mind, doesn't he owe it to Yusef/Cat Stevens and his other former colleagues not to mock everything they stand for? I repeat again, it must be a really compelling reason that made him act like that - and yet he seems rather vague on what that reason is.
Cat Stevens made a good living off of tons of non-Muslims back in the day. Did he not owe it to his fans and supporters of old not to mock everything they stand for?
"I think most of us can see Hasan is a good man if his Muslim friends and family cant see that then what does that tell us about Islam..."
Let's forget Islam for a minute, these are people we are discussing. I'm not so sure a good man would so willingly, for no good reason, so publicly turn on family and friends - those that, I presume, love/loved him - and know him better than you or I.
But it is Islam that has conditioned them to feel this way? Speaking from experience todays Christians do not treat thier atheists/agnostics family members like this... even if they go on to criticize christianity.
You seem to think Muslims are not people and that they all go around making decisions based on the koran rather than common sense, not true at all. . People feel used, upset, let down for all kinds of reasons, Islam doesn't 'condition' people to do so,. But to you, I guess that 'principles' are another devious smokescreen put in place by that awful Islam and it's followers to make people feel guilty?
Well I am not about to start comparing Muslims to customers of a utility company. I dont know when we started talking about all Muslims because we were talking about a hypothetical group who specifically no longer liked/loved Hassan.
Lets look at it another way... Its true I would hate it if one of my family members decided to join Islam but and heres the important bit I wouldn't hate them... I wouldn't feel the need to disown them, even if they started criticizing my way of life.
I don't support the attempt to paint Geert Wilders & Robert Spencer as "racists".
And I don't ignore the "muslim bashing " references, most muslims & their supporters conveniently consider truthful criticism of their religion "muslim bashing". It's meant to silence criticism.
If the OIC has their way it will soon be illegal to criticize islam at all. Then all of this will be moot, won''t it?
Then people will wish they had supported Geert Wilders & Robert Spencer, but it will be too late.
ibdancininfideldog 1 year ago
Shirtcock!
Keeban3 1 year ago
I enjoy your videos, but it concerns me that you would have pictures of Geert Wilders and Robert Spencer displayed as 'racists' and those with 'hateful agendas'.
Both have been strong supporters of CEMB and those brave individuals who, like yourself, dare to use your freedom of speech to criticize islam.
I hope you will more carefully research what both men have actually stated, and separate it from the falsehoods and gossip being spread by certain antagonists.
AlSalibiyyah 2 years ago
@AlSalibiyyah I should have stated, "Both have been strong supporters of GROUPS LIKE CEMB..." as I do not know their positions on council of ex-muslims of Britain...
They have been outspoken in defending the rights of those who wish to leave islam.
AlSalibiyyah 2 years ago
these men just use criticism of islam as a means to convey an intolerant anti-immigrant and anti-freedom of religion message.
it's very clear from their speeches , and from the film fitna of course.
MrMassyle 2 years ago
@MrMassyle These men speak the truth about an intolerant & violent ideology. They are not "anti-freedom of religion".
They have gone above & beyond to protect the rights & freedom of apostates, which makes me wonder why the author of this video would portray them as antagonists while speaking about the rights of apostates to speak out.
The Fitna film only used the words terrorists use to justify their attacks on innocent people.
AlSalibiyyah 2 years ago 2
@AlSalibiyyah your'e right, but i can see why people view geert wilders as an extremist. he makes a lot of statements that seem that way, and for instance his latest proposal for taxing headscarves was a bit of a stupid move.
however, the core of his argument is absolutely valid, and in my view, doesn't go far enough, as it doesn't include other religions that are just as mad (being all)
rasmAn2 2 years ago
@AlSalibiyyah
You said both Geert Wilders and Robert Spencer have been strong supporters of CEMB.
Evidence please?
discussislam 1 year ago
@discussislam I replied to my own comment, correcting saying they support groups LIKE CEMB.
Their records speak for themselves. Both Geert and Robert have come out supporting Apostates and their right to criticize islam. Anyone familiar with either man will know that.
I recommend you read JihadWatch (dot) org or Geert's own speeches and statements. Both have vilified by our PC media.
(cont)
AlSalibiyyah 1 year ago
@discussislam Pam Geller, close associate of Robert Spencer (they are partners of Freedom Defense Initiative), has been in contact and received support from CEMB members.
Youtube doesn't allow lengthy comments or links. So it is difficult to direct readers to specific pages.
I just suggest, before smearing the names of people trying to protect and defend free speech, you take the time to learn more about them.
AlSalibiyyah 1 year ago
I love you!
jailstop 2 years ago
I admire your courage in making the decision to step away from a religion you don't feel is right for you, and for vocalising your views in such a clear, honest and fair-handed way. I suspect a lot of the comments here criticisng your decision may in part come from those fearful of making such a break themselves.
spannerwoman 2 years ago
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isamelbou 2 years ago
"Most of my family don't really have a big problem with me expressing my views. '
I just noticed the 'most of' - care to elaborate on your freedom of speech loving kith and kin's reaction?
Tamberlyn4u 2 years ago
What you mean is, they can't prevent you. How many Muslim family members have congratulated you for your right to free speech? I will guess - none?
Tamberlyn4u 2 years ago
I see another bunch of yobs turned out for the opening of the new mosque in Harrow, were you there Deah? How do you feel about supporting the muslim bashers now DiscussIslam? Well done, you must be proud. Kep up the good work.
Tamberlyn4u 2 years ago
I Don't live anywhere near Harrow. Not even the right country. I don't give a crap about who turned up for what. Islam oppresses atheists, murders apostates and wishes to eradicate polytheists from the face of the planet. Whoever turned up for you mosque opening is uninteresting. If you want to call them "yobs" that's okay, but you'll have to see them every friday, not me. I am proud to stand up for Human Rights and against the tyranny of Islam. Glad you appreciate us. Tammy.
deah99 2 years ago 5
Anyone who doesnt like death threats and insults, I would advise them not to post inflammatory videos on youtube, regardless of religion, status, or whatever. You are far more likely to come across videos like yours than be accosted by a leaflet distributor. But what is the difference between the two? You both want to 'spread the word' - right? You say your family are Muslims, and that you don't want to hurt them - well, tell me, how do they feel about your videos?
Tamberlyn4u 2 years ago
"Anyone who doesnt like death threats and insults, I would advise them not to post inflammatory videos on youtube" - spoken like a true Muslim bigot. This guy posts videos and you can't help running your mouths till you PROVE every word he says about you is 100% RIGHT! I can see why so many people are leaving Islam, if it's full of retards like you, TammyLyn4u.
deah99 2 years ago
My videos are not inflammatory imho - Islamic literature that says - for example - Christians and Jews who reject Islam are "the worst of creatures" [Bayyinah:6] and will burn in Hell are far more inflammatory.
Most of my family don't really have a big problem with me expressing my views. Fortunately they - and indeed a good many other Muslims - understand we live in a free world where ppl should be able to express their views without receiving death threats.
discussislam 2 years ago
You say that you have a right to be an apostate withour fear of abuse and intimidation? I agree, but would it be fair to say that the only intimidation and abuse you have received as an ex Muslim is because you keep ranting about it on Youtube and other places? Why not you do your thing, and others do theirs without the running commentary?
Tamberlyn4u 2 years ago
We all have a right to air our views and opinions. All I do is make some Youtube videos and don't knock on doors or pass out leaflets on a Da'wa stall.
Are you suggesting that it is fair that I should be threatened, inditmidated, attacked or even killed because of that?
Does this apply to anyone who shares their views - including the many Muslims here on youtube or the many Muslims standing in High Streets giving Da'wa?
Or does this only apply to ex-Muslims?
discussislam 2 years ago
He's got every right to speak about his experiences with Islam as an ex-Muslim. He's "doing his thing". He's not stopping you from doing yours, is he? If you don't like hearing the truth, close youtube and open the Koran because you'll get as much of the other stuff as you want there. If he wants to enlighten others about the faults, lies and xenophobia within Islam, then we WELCOME it!
deah99 2 years ago 2
I think you are doing a good job and not biased. I have seen too much criticism of Christianity and as someone who was brought up a Muslim, I would think "of course, because Christianity is a false religion" but when it comes to Islam there are mainly two groups. Non Muslims who criticise Islam to promote their own religion and Athiests who often fail to connect with a skeptical Muslim because of their lack of iinsight in Islam. You my friend, have a niche like no one else.
dirtyhyde8 2 years ago
I'd like to say something - "Athiests who often fail to connect with a skeptical Muslim because of their lack of iinsight in Islam" - it's not about insight in Islam. Islamic law calls for the extermination of apostates, atheists and polytheists or "pagans". No amount of "insight" can make up for that. One either endorses this kind of genocide or one doesn't. Anyone, atheist, muslim or otherwise who stands against this brutality is a person we should "connect with". Good comment though.
deah99 2 years ago
I understand where you are coming from about Islam's view of non Muslims. But by "insight" I meant a cultural Islam; as it is practiced by Muslims across the world, with traditions and customs. To some Muslims Islam is part of their identity, if they lose it, it leaves a big void. I must also admit I find some atheists (ex. faith freedom. org) are very biased to paint a very horrid picture of Islam. Like every religion Islam prescribes methods for self defense and war. Continued...
dirtyhyde8 2 years ago
But When you are brought up in a Muslim Household, you are brainwashed to believe that Islam is the ultimate solution for all humanity. That it is the most peaceful and tolerant of all religions. This persons (discussislam's) videos usually start discussing a Muslim's point of view, then slowly dissects it with reason and logic. I find it very refreshing. Its better than the usual "fuck Islam" types.
dirtyhyde8 2 years ago
All true. But on the sharp end of Islam's "kill the kufar" sentiment, it's very easy to think "fuck Islam". As an atheist, I too have what you might call a "horrid picture" of Islam based on what Islam says about me and people like me. If someone rejects religion, it's there right to do so without the fear of being killed for their beliefs. Atheists are not "good people" simply by virtue of being atheist. It just means they don't believe in "Gods". Atheists can be both evil or "good".
deah99 2 years ago
It's funny how many Muslims in the UK I talk to who say "Oh no, I wouldn't want Shari'ah law here!" - how illogical is that? They believe in this religion, but don't want God's laws?
But what would happen if a majority DID vote an Islamic party into power, what if that party changed the official religion of the UK to Islam?
I suspect it isn't actually as easy as it might sound, but I am not clued up on such a procedure.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
on how much woul you bet that a guy who was not
raise in ANY religion belife all his life, would NOT
belive in any kind of god?
Ryagful 2 years ago
there is not compulsion in religion
qwertyfshag 2 years ago
Hey discussislam, would it be possible for you to add in the description box what songs you play in your videos (usually the end part)?
Possibly also add it to videos you've already made? :)
wrongwayup 2 years ago
Done! :)
discussislam 2 years ago
erm deah, old bean, no one saw churchill as a hate monger, sorry if that collapses your argument a bit.
OrangeFuzz123 2 years ago
You need to research before you comment. In the 1930s, Churchill was a very aggresive opponent of Hitler and the Nazis while it was still expedient for many European governments to talk of getting along with Germany at all costs. Chaimberlain himself came back from Germany with his "peace in out time" statement which everyone was only too happy accept. Many saw Churchill as an unpleasent noise threatening their chance to ignore Hitler. "Sorry if that collapses your argument a bit".
deah99 2 years ago
deah, head out of ass now, right now!
OrangeFuzz123 2 years ago
OrangeFuzz: You talk so much crap, I'd be surprised if there's any difference between your head and your arse at all. You've probably just got one "all purpose orifice" that doubles for both...
deah99 2 years ago
Islam is slavery. It's not important what Islam means to those who want to be part of it - what IS important is how Islam treats those people who DON'T want to be part of it. Some slaves may not want liberty, but that doesn't mean that those who do want freedom should be denied their human rights. No ideology, religious or otherwise, has the right to "own" human beings and to "punish" them for rejecting it! We need to support ex-Muslims everywhere.
deah99 2 years ago 2
Deah, yap, yap, yap, kick. Someone put the poodle back on it's leash.
Tamberlyn4u 2 years ago
Do you "contribute to violence against Muslims" by being fair and open in your criticism? Did Churchill get criticised for "contributing to violence against Nazis" when he stood up to Hitler back in the 1930s? YES, actually many "interested parties" called him a "hate monger". History sees him differently. You are doing good work! As an atheist, I appreciate what you're doing to illustrate the contradictions and oppression within Islam. Keep doing what you're doing.
deah99 2 years ago 3
This video does not discus anything, why dont you show a video where all the good muslims are when some idiots want sharia law in a western society. I NEVER HEAR THEM.
XlinkK280 2 years ago
The Muslim has eight children per family while the caucasian has one child per family.
Poppycock. Muslims do not have 8 children per family, nor do caucasians have a birth rate as low as 1 per family.
Plus, the terms muslim and caucasian are not mutually exclusive.
vicarette 2 years ago 2
No, you're right, but if you compare the birth rate of Muslims with most other demographics and you will see that they have a higher birth rate than most.
Abbodine1 2 years ago
what about the muslim caucasian ? islam is just a religion and not a race .
associating a certain religion or certain moral attributes to a certain race is indeed racism.
MrMassyle 2 years ago
We got a problem discussislam. The Muslim has eight children per family while the caucasian has one child per family.
When the population is Muslim the religion of Islam will have to be rough to keep their own down.
They are doing this now by spreading Sharia law in Europe and if you do a poll on radical places of worship for Islam in the U.K. and they find that around 50-80% are radical.
Can you guess what the radical percentage is in the Middle East?
ABAisSCIENCE 2 years ago
Dear Hassan, I think you are a beautiful person, but I am sorry to tell you there are many things I do not agree with .You claim that Islam is not a dangerous ideology when in fact Islam IS a very dangerous ideology.I find this an insult to those brave women that died trying to shake off this absurd religion.
Google Hina Saleem, she was my friend.
Thank you.
STOPShariaLAWnow 2 years ago 8
Don't be sorry, you don't have to agree with me, nor do I have to agree with you.
Though I'm sure we will defend each others right to express our opinions.
Peace :)
discussislam 2 years ago
i'm so impressed with your journey and your mind. more should be so tolerant and rational.
KempsGrl 2 years ago 2
5 stars! Thank you discussislam :)
San1tarium 2 years ago
"well that's how indians are"
That is how most people are. The point is, you need to look beyond religious and national labels in order to fully appreciate that most people are, by nature, decent and peaceful.
RationalDude 2 years ago 2
@hmt4444,
"they do not acknowledge past deeds of islam"
The point is to differentiate between deeds which can be attributed to Islam as a religion, and deeds which are carried out by people who profess the faith.
E.g.: does Roman Catholicism require priests to rape young choir boys? I don't think so, but they do it nevertheless. Does Islam allow muslims to kill non-muslims who are not engaged in battle or open hostility? It does not, and those that do so are in contravention of the faith.
RationalDude 2 years ago
@rationaldude ,
go and read the history of last mugal emperor AURANGZEB , he was a major force in conversion of non muslims.
he followed islam to the T , aurangzeb consulated mullahs and quran for his every action , muslim priest would call him LIVINGSAINT.
here is a look what he did ,
he killed SIKH guru TEGBAHADUR becaused he refused to convert to ISLAM,
he burned a hindupriest because he was
talking about hinduism in a market , contd...........
hmt4444 2 years ago 5
he imposed jajiya on hinduism ,
he favoured in courtcases those who convert to islam ,
andas usual he destroyed many hindu temples.
all this was approved by the mullahs and QURAN.
you are telling me all this has nothing to do witht islam , BULL SHIT go and fool someone else .
hmt4444 2 years ago 4
i would have made a response to your video if my english was as good as yours,
but i wonder whether you would have accepted it as a response considering the facts that my replies hurt you so much .
if you r still there i must tell you that your best video was LIFE IS A TEST ,
and that video has nothing to do with islam as it was against all the religion ,
because many muslims on this channels think that only reason we like your vids because you speak against islam.
hmt4444 2 years ago 3
hasan i think it would be better you block me again , because you seem like a good human being , but i will not be able to control myself considering the fact kind of illogical argument and lies that muslims say on this channel , it is better you block me and i will not make account again , i promise .
hmt4444 2 years ago 2
hasan as per you, rationaldude must be a peaceful muslim ,
but what did he say when i presented him with the fact that how muslim invaders killed hindus and buddhists ,
he said that I AM LYING ,
when muslims are not ready to aknowledge their past deeds , how they are going to stop this from happening again in future ,
christans at least accept what they did to otheres in the earlier history of christanity , un like muslims who say that
all this is a lie.
hmt4444 2 years ago
hmt4444, all I can say in response is that you are making wild claims in order to justify wild and irrational anger and hatred. You need to get over the anger and find a way to reach out to your muslim compatriots instead of spreading hatred and misinformation about them.
I've worked with many Indians before (hindus, muslims & sikhs) and I saw nothing but friendship and respect from them.
peace.
RationalDude 2 years ago
"making wild claims "
i knew you would say this that was why i asked you to read history of islamic invasion in india yourself , but you insisted on that i should give you proof ,
i am not surprised , musllims always had trouble with TRUTH ,
i would like everyone to read for himself about islamic invasion in india and meanning of HINDUKUSH mountain.
if you ever come to india , i will show you the mosques where is it inscribed that after destroying which temple this mosque was built.
hmt4444 2 years ago
But you can't blame all Muslims today for the acts of some in the past - just like you can't blame modern Christians for the fact that in the past churches were built on destroyed pagan temples.
discussislam 2 years ago
yup you are dead right , i can not and i should not blame muslims for the act of some in the past , but it is not they have stopped doing it ,
all you need is to go through the history of kashmir ,
how in 1989 kashmiri hindus were ethnically cleasned by the muslims ,
all you have to read where the entire hindu population in bangladesh is gone , recently 14 hindus girls were abducted in pakistan and forcefully converted to islam ,
check yoursefl
i am not lying.
hmt4444 2 years ago
I certainly don't deny that some horrible stuff goes on - I stick my neck out to condemn it publicly for God's sake! But I say again, please don't use the nasty things to make sweeping generalisations about Muslims.
discussislam 2 years ago
"I've worked with many Indians before (hindus, muslims & sikhs) and I saw nothing but friendship and respect from them."
well that's how indians are , they are not brought up to hate others unlike muslims who teach their children that jews are pigs and islam is the only and true religion and all other religion are lies.
hmt4444 2 years ago
You make sweeping generalizations about Muslims. Most Muslims I know are very respectful to other faiths. You can't judge all Muslims by the nasty stuff in the Qur'an. There is lots of nasty stuff in most ancient scripture, but it doesn't mean all the followers are nasty. Muslims just like most religious people, explain away most of the nasty stuff in one way or another.
discussislam 2 years ago
the reason i am forced to make a generalisation because
one they do not acknowledge past deeds of islam
second they would go to great length defending things in islam.
like jajiya and wife beating ,
to jajiya one muslim said it is for the protection and good of minority , BS ,
to wifebeating one muslim said the fact that you can beat only with light stick is tantamounts to no beating at all , BS .
muslims use such illogical logics to defend islam , it is like they are on ecstaty
hmt4444 2 years ago
hmt4444
I am a very patient and open minded person and I have no problem with anyone's opinion - but please remain polite and respectful and try to limit the number of your posts as you are clogging up my channel - If you can't then I will block you again - thanks.
discussislam 2 years ago
hasan i have not posted any lie here , i might have been impolite , i accept that,
as far as clogging your channel is concerned , i am simply replying to the people's comment ,
AMDAN posted so many replies , you did not block him ,
why you only blocked me??
hmt4444 2 years ago
So long as you don't spam and be polite you can post.
discussislam 2 years ago
@rationaldude
i can fill the entire youtube on how muslims destroyed thousand of hindu temples build mosques over them , killing millions of hindus
if you want more eg , reply me , before hasan block me again for stating the truth.
hmt4444 2 years ago
@rationaldude all the things i wrote below were taken from the book of islamic writers and scholors , just so you start thinking that these are taken from any book of hindu writer ( apart from 1971thing which was taken from a hindu writer).
as i said after reading history of islam in india any reasonable non muslim wil start hating islam.
hmt4444 2 years ago
Kanauj (Uttar Pradesh)
"In Kanauj there were nearly 10,000 temples, which the idolaters falsely and absurdly represented to have been founded by their ancestors two or three hundred thousand years ago.Many of the inhabitants of the place fled and were scattered abroad like so many wretched widows and orphans, from the fear which oppressed them, in consequence of witnessing the fate of their deaf and dumb idols. Many of them thus effected their escape, those who did not fly were put to death
hmt4444 2 years ago
as i wrote earlier the term HINDUKUSH refers to the killing of hindus by muslims invaders. historians estimate that during the last 1000 yrs of invasion of islam ,
muslims have killedalmost 80 million hindus.
hmt4444 2 years ago
@hmt4444,
It is ridiculous to attribute a disparity in population growth to genocide. A genocide happens when members of a group (usually ethnic) are systematically killed on the basis of their ethnicity.
In any case, the conflict in the sub-continent was instigated largely by the British for geo-political considerations. The reasons were more secular and political than religious.
By what logic do you find Islam responsible for this?
RationalDude 2 years ago
Jalam ibn Shaiban writes(9th century AD)
Multan (Punjab)
"A famous idol of theirs was that of Multan, dedicated to the sun, and therefore called Aditya. It was of wood and covered with red Cordovan leather; in its two eyes were two red rubies. It is said to have been made in the last Kritayuga . contd.......
hmt4444 2 years ago
When Muhammad Ibn Alkasim Ibn Almunaibh conquered Multan, he inquired how the town had become so very flourishing then he found out that this idol was the cause, for there came pilgrims from all sides to visit it. Therefore he thought it best to have the idol where it was, but he hung a piece of cow's flesh on its neck by way of mockery. On the same place a mosque was built. When the Karmatians occupied Multan, Jalam Ibn Shaiban, the usurper, broke the idol into pieces and killed its priests"
hmt4444 2 years ago
In 1193, the Nalanda University complex was destroyed by Turkish Muslim invaders under Bakhtiyar Khalji; this event is seen as the final milestone in the decline and near extinction of Buddhism in India. He also burned Nalanda's a major Buddhist library and Vikramshila University, as well as numerous Bhuddhist monasteries in India.
hmt4444 2 years ago
Ibn Samurah (AD 653)
Siestan (Iran)
"On reaching Dawar, he surrounded the enemy in the mountain of Zur, where there was a famous Hindu temple." "...Their idol of Zur was of gold, and its eyes were two rubies. The zealous Musalmans cut off its hands and plucked out its eyes, and then remarked to the Marzaban how powerless was his idol..."
hmt4444 2 years ago
Mohammed bin Qasim (AD 712-715)
Debal (Sindh)
"...The town was thus taken by assault, and the carnage endured for three days. The governor of the town, appointed by Dahir, fled and the priests of the temple were massacred. Muhammad marked a place for the Musalmans to dwell in, built a mosque, and left 4,000 Musalmans to garrison the place..."
hmt4444 2 years ago
meaning of HINDUKUSH "Destruction of Hindus"
referring to events in the area when Islam took over the area
name "Hindu Kush" only comes into use after the Islamic invasions begin. The name Hindu Kush is not recorded before c.1330.
As 'kush' means 'killing' in old Persian, most sources state it means Hindu-Killer because of the killing of many Hindus by Islamic invaders in these areas and vast number of Hindu slaves who perished in passing its snows while being taken by Islamic invaders
hmt4444 2 years ago
Of the missing 3.5 million people (if not more), 1.1 million can be explained: it is the number of Hindu refugees settled in India prior to the genocide.
Taking into account a number of Hindu children born to refugees in India rather than in Bangladesh, and a possible settlement of 1971 refugees in India, it is fair to estimate the disappeared Hindus at about 2 million.
hmt4444 2 years ago
hmt4444,
If you look at the preceding verse to the one you quoted, you will see that it is talking about those who are in a state of aggression with muslims, and those who had previously reneged on agreements.
also, look at 9:6 and you will see that it instructs muslims to give protection to those that seek it, and to escort them to safety.
Why did you quote 9:5 on its own, without referencing 9:4 and 9:6, which provide the full meaning to 9:5?
RationalDude 2 years ago
book "Hindu Genocide in East Pakistan" convincingly that the number of Hindu victims in the 1971 genocide was approximately 2.4 million, or about 80%. In comparing the population figures for 1961 and 1971, and taking the observed natural growth rhythm into account, author finds that the Hindu population has remained stable at 9.5 million when it should have increased to nearly 13 million (13.23 million if the same growth rhythm were assumed for Hindus as for Muslims). contd...
hmt4444 2 years ago
"how is islam responsible for genocide of hindus"
Quoting a verse from the Qur'an doesn't answer the question. Did millions of hindus die in a genocide instigated by islam? when? how? where? by whom?
RationalDude 2 years ago
hmt4444,
"how about if i told you that eating orange would take you to hell"
if I'm not convinced by what you say, I would simply ignore you. Why can't you do the same?
RationalDude 2 years ago
hmt4444,
"propaganda videos"
Nobody forces you to watch these videos. Why do you watch them if you get so agitated by them? Ignore them!
If my favourite fruit is orange, and yours is banana, what gives you the right to become angry if I say that orange is the best fruit? no-one is forcing you to eat oranges instead of bananas, just as no-one is forcing you to believe in islam instead of hinduism.
So why do you want to stop muslim preachers from saying that islam is the best path to God?
RationalDude 2 years ago
good question , your favourite fruit is orange , how about if i told you that eating orange would take you to hell and eating banana is only way to heaven,
how about that
hmt4444 2 years ago
hmt4444, I think hassan blocked you because you were ranting like a lunatic. Just take a quick look at your comments of the last 2 or 3 days.
Assuming you are correct about India being damaged by Islam, what do you think should be done about that?
How is Islam responsible for the 'genocide of millions of hindus'?
RationalDude 2 years ago
yup , you are right , i went nuts beacuse hasan said islam poses no threat .
read history of islam in india and any reasonable non muslim will hate islam.
how is islam responsible for genocide of hindus,
here you go
"When the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush." (Koran 9:5)
most of hindus worship idols.
hmt4444 2 years ago
@Ossadawn, let me ask you.. if Islam is half dog shit and half ice cream, does the half dog shit turns the entire Islam into ice cream or the ice cream turns into dog shit?
I hold the latter to be teh truth. Islam is dog shit.
QuranISmeinkampf 2 years ago
Please make your point without using such language. I am getting a little tired of all the insults and slanging matches going on here. I don't check here often but when I do and I see anyone using insults or foul language I will delete and block them - thanks.
discussislam 2 years ago
ok, what should I have used? dog poop? or dog excrement to be polite?
QuranISmeinkampf 2 years ago
yup like he blocked me for stating the truth.
i can not believe he is the same persn who made the video "life is a test"
hmt4444 2 years ago
hmt4444, ur happy only when hassan is explicitly hostile to islam and muslims, unhappy when he shows a little moderation. why r u so extremist and hateful?
RationalDude 2 years ago
@rationaldude , i am a hindu , my parents always thought me that all religion are equal , i was never thought that hinduism was best .
but as i grew up , i realised that how islam completely destroyed my INDIA ,
it conquered most part of India , it destroyed temples , build mosques over temples , i can prove it .
islam was responsible for the genocide of milliions of hindus. contd.........
hmt4444 2 years ago
you will say that it was in past , but Islam is still ruining India , Islamic terrorists are still killing hindus whether it is in temples or in the market.
after that people have the audacity to come here and islam is religion of peace , BS, total BS ,
i was very very innocent (thinking all people , religion are same ) and ISLAM has robbed me of my innocence and i will never ever pardon ISLAM for that.
NEVER.
that's why when hasan blocked me I made new acnt .
hmt4444 2 years ago
and talking about hasan , he should know it is not he who is responsible for the hatred towars muslims , it is the islamic preacher who are responsible for the hatred towars musims ,
it is the people who put up propaganda video that islam is the only truth are responsible for the hatred towards islam . not hasan and hasan thanks for blocking me , not a single thing that i wrote here was a lie and you still block me.
hmt4444 2 years ago
It's interesting that Pat Condell has this video in his favourites. He could learn a lot from what it says, because he's an example of what the video above is warning about. People who are so bitterly against something (in Condell's case, against all Religion) that they focus solely on and exagerrate negative cases and whip up such a storm of fear and anger, then thrive on the attention it gets them from viewers who's thought processes become distorted from all the hype,that they see a hero.
Ossadawn 2 years ago
Ossadawn, you said "people focus only on the negative aspects" after all the genocides , violence committed in the name of Islam , I do not see how can anyone keep on defending such a fascist cult.
Pat tells the truth, you need to hear it. Only 1 victim of Islam would be enough for me to despise it, but Islam has millions of victims not just one.
QuranISmeinkampf 2 years ago
Victims of secularism, capitalism, commercialism are more than 1. Locally & Internationally. Is that enough for you to disown it, as there is overwhelming evidence of how it exploits not only human bodys and minds as - "human resources", but their well being to benefit fat cats at the top who laugh at the serfs scrabbling each day just to get by, told they live in a glorious utopia of freedom. A comfy sofa and a widescreen TV, isn't liberty.
Ossadawn 2 years ago
hmt444, you called AmdanAbla illiterate for saying osacar instead of oscar, but you wrote "coward righting behind my back so i wouldn't be able to reply you". Don't you mean writing instead of righting? Shouldn't it be "reply to you" instead of "reply you"?
Pot, kettle, black? People who live in glass houses, stones?
RationalDude 2 years ago
@rationaldude you have not read correctly , i did not call amdan illierate for misspelling , i called him so because he said that movie WATER has won an oscar , which is not true at all.
as far as my committing mistakes , english is not my first language , i am still learning ,
by your account all the chinese and japanese are illiterates , which we know is not true,
i know things but in my own language ,
thanks for pointing out my mistakes ,
will help me in learning.
hmt4444 2 years ago
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RationalDude 2 years ago
I suggest everybody to watch WATER form Deepa Mehta a beautiful movie with extra futures how she made this movie(it has best foreign movie oscar)
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
as i said earlier , reply directly to me you muslim coward ,
water best foreign movie osacar , LMAO
you are an illiterate just like your prophet was,
WATER did not win any oscar .
hmt444 2 years ago
htm444,I tried to this message yesterdat but I coudnt:You are right,WATER nominated for best foreign movie but didnt get it(my appologies)!!!
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
Another thing I like to make it clear,I learned my English by commenting videos on youtube(I`m not joking)I know its not perfect and if you referring this illiteracy,I`ll accept that too,Cheers!
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
even i regret earlier (personal ) comment i made about you .
still i stand by what i said abt islam.
hmt4444 2 years ago
AmdanAbla99, are you a follower of the cult of Islam?. Islam advocates wife beating, that alone would be enough for me to reject such filth. Islam talks about murdering infidels, it is poison.
You are quite brainwashed not to see that. Islam offers only poison to the world, nothing more.
MarcoPolo197 2 years ago 4
and proof of this evolution is our Prime minister , Indian primeminister is a sikh ,
tell me a musllim country which has a person from minority as its head of state, got it you muslim retard
hmt444 2 years ago
now next time when you are speaking about hindus reply me directly ,
you coward muslim.
hmt444 2 years ago
Ha ha ha,you are a joke my friend !
This is from your previous comments to this video:"i am sorry i disagree with you there is no moderation in islam all muslims are extremists."
I hope nobody takes your bullshits seriously.There are millions of muslims,who even doesnt know how to prey,never been in a mosque and no idea about qurans teachings Not only today,for centuries,for example Alevi`s of Turkey called themselves muslim,never cared about sharia rules,more focused on morality and humanism
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
In last april it was muslims burn the effigies of Richard Gere and shouted"Death to Shilpa Shetty"
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
Read,Sanhedrin 53 from google,and send me verses of quran the ones orders,stonning(you were mentioning kindly in your previous comments)
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
what the fuck is sanhedrin
hmt444 2 years ago
Whatever I claim about Hindus,everybody free to do their own reserches.Now shut up and go and sacrifie a child for shakti or Kali !!! And stop calling me muslim(Becouse I`m not)
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
yup you are a muslim , i am fed up of these so called muslims coming on channels and commenting " i am not a muslim but i know that islam is a religion of peace"
LMAO
you are a follower of peadophile , kidfucker and a massmurderer and you know that.
hmt444 2 years ago
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hmt444 2 years ago
Like all religions which started a couple of thousand years ago, Hinduism also had elements in the distant medieval and ancient times which were foolish, like sacrifice etc. But what is different to Hindus today from Muslims is the degree to which the common Hindu on the street agrees with those beliefs. If you see most Hindus, they are hardworking professionals practising their personal beliefs PRIVATELY. They do not want to KILL and MAIM innocents, and CONQUER the world by killing infidels.
rkrohela 2 years ago
You make some good points. Every religion has its own extemes.I was agree with htm444 until some points.
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago 2
My mother is 65,call herself muslim.Never covered herself(she even enjoyed wearing mini skirts in her youth),never preyed,never vent pilgrimage.She thinks qurans orders were for muhammadan time doesnt apply todays circumstances.
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
She tells,we have to change while world and cicumstances change.Basically she is like one of the peacefull Hindus in the street,peacefull,like you,like me,like many others!!!
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
yup there is no moderation in islam and all muslims are extremist ,
i stand by what i said ,
no matter what you say , people here know that islam is a synonym for extremism.
hmt444 2 years ago
now you are talking about dowry death that take place in india , these dowry deaths has nothing to do with hinduism ,
these dowry deaths take place across the board among hindus , sikhs and even among muslims.
tell me one hindu scripture which says that you have to kill girl because of dowry.
contd..................
hmt444 2 years ago
goverment has strict laws against dowry ,
whrein only a single complain can land all the alleged into jail without any bail .
so much so that there have been many cases wherein gals have used these laws to satisfy their own purposes ,
wherein they have threaten to complain aginst the inlaws as a source of balckmailing them.
contd...............
hmt444 2 years ago
you have raised the issue of gujrat riots and babri structure,
so first muslims destro the temples and build their mosque over the temple and when you try to do that they go nuts.
gujrat riots were started by muslims by IMMOLATING 70 hindus women and children ,
so i have nothing to say in this regard.
it was muslims who drew the first blood.
contd..............
hmt444 2 years ago
further more , whatever you stated here like dowry death and sikh riots has nothing to do with hinduism ,
no society is perfect and neither indian society is ,
i never said indian society is perfect but what is imporatant that we try to improve it by making laws like we did in the cases of dowry deaths , this is called evolution ,
but you muslim retard will never understand it .
hmt444 2 years ago
Religious extremism is bad !,accusing all muslims for being extremist,unjust !,Ignoring the exremism of other faiths double standard !
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
After seing some Hindu biggots attacking entire muslim community and accusing all muslims with being criminals made me really mad.I`m an ex-muslim atheist, but this doesnt mean I`ll be stand by silent when the other extremists will hide or justify or forget their own horrific crimes.I like to give some quotes and statistics who is more inhuman,who is more evil.I will not talk about Sikh pogroms in Delhi,Kanpur or other cities which15.000 slaugtered after Indra Gandi`s assasination.
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
Neither the massacres of Gujarat,mumbai muslims in 2002 organised by Hindu exremist Bharatia Janata Party,neither the turmoils took place after the destruction of Babri Masjid by Hindu exremists in Ayodhya.
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
Incredible enough, thousands of women still die in India every year in the hands of their own husbands because their family couldnt meet the economic expectations of their in-laws. Many of these cases were brought to the light after the efforts of different associations and individuals, fighting to eradicate at once dowry deaths. Most of them, though, remained unknown and whats more important, unpunished, because of the conscientious effort of the ruling elite to hide them.
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
Namrata was 22 years old and a middle class graduate when she married Vivek in 1980 in Dehli, one of the most conservative cities in India. Vivek and his family were not happy with the dowry they had received from Namratas family and started torturing her as soon as she got pregnant. In a visit to Namratas parents, Vivek demanded a scooter on the birth of the child. Her parents didnt give in to his demands. Two days later,Namrata was found dead in her kitchen. Her body was badly burnt.
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
As in the Namrata case, Vimalas murder didnt go unpunished. For Vimala the harassment started right after the wedding. Her family couldnt meet the dowry demands of her in-laws. After less than a year of marriage and eight months pregnant, Vimalas mother in-law soaked her in kerosene and set her aflame. She was sentenced to life imprisonment Depika Singh August 24,2000
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
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AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
Andaman & Nicobar - 1
Chandigarh - 3
Dadra & Nagar Haveli - 0
Daman & Diu - 0
Delhi - 132
Lakshadweep - 0
Pondicherry - 4
Total - 5199
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
I can write more and more,despite of being prohibited since mid 19 th century,such practices like suttee,human sacrifice still contiue.And they still have guts to accuse all muslims with extremity.Stop scapegoating millons of peacefull muslims for a handful bastards.
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
@amdan , now you have lost the will to reply me directly , coward righting behind my back so i wouldn't be able to reply you.
i will give reply to each and every allegation you have stated against hindus ,
so read carefully , contd..............
hmt444 2 years ago
First talking about sikh massacre that took place in 1984 , that massacre was politically motivated which has nothing to do with hindus ,
only people of congress party were involved in the killings ,
even muslims from congress party were involved in the killing of sikhs ,
blaming it on hindus would be like blaming the jews holocaust on christans,
it was the idelogy which was responsible .
anyway as an indian i feel deeply hurt by that massacre. contd..........
hmt444 2 years ago
islam is lost. from the top down.
zerophilist 2 years ago 4
Anyone with a brain can see how vile Islam is.
humorlaughs 2 years ago 5
How can anyone say that Islam is not poison?
Sura (8:12) - "I will cast TERROR ( terror is mentioned many times in the quran) into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads( and strike off every fingertip of them"
Sura (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast TERROR into the hearts of the Unbelievers
humorlaughs 2 years ago 3
I have read the quran and the hadiths, I see Islam as extremely dangerous. The time to confront Islam for the sick cult it is has come. Does this sound like peaceful to any of you? sura 9 : 111 Allah hath purchased of the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of Paradise): they FIGHT in HIS CAUSE, and KILL and they are KILLED : a promise
humorlaughs 2 years ago 4
-"irrational fear, hatred and prejudice toward those who are different that pose the biggest threat to our freedom"-
Like those who do not believe in allah or the last day, even if they are people of the book and must be fought until they pay the tax and are feel themselves subdued?
Islam itself is a dangerous theocratic ideology that poses the biggest threat to freedom, as evidenced by the levels of tolerance, equality, creativity, education, productivity and human rights in "islamic" states.
AlexiusComnenos 2 years ago 6
I think you're a bit confused Amdan. You certainly haven't described me.
Tamberlyn4u 2 years ago
you are right,I`m sorry ! My responce all those who thinks criticising islam is comdemning entire muslim world. I will continue later.There are lots to say about this hypocrsy of so called anti-muslims!
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
The video answered the question itself, be silent!. Funny how you're called Discussislam and yet - you don't. Maybe change to 'I'll tell you about Islam'. I think I can guess why you don't bother replying, because it's a waste of time, and that also answers the question.
Tamberlyn4u 2 years ago
Why he should bother to answer? He already criticises islam and the extremists.But you and the ones who has your mentality want him to perpetrate hatred and violance against all muslims and middle east descendents(many of them are not religious,even not muslim anymore).First picture in the video is a good example,this is the scene you and your supporters want to see and you want him to praise this kind of racist acts.You are worst than those exremist muslims.
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
I feel bad for this guy, he is very confused. One question, why do you think those who expose Islam and the violence contained in the quran are "bigoted", but you have nothing to say about all those Muslims killing READING VERSES from the quran? Why you have nothing to say about all those Muslims SCREAMING "behead" those who insult Islam?
The truth is people are fed up with the list of atrocities committed by the wonderful"religion of peace"
islamisretarded 2 years ago 5
The comments are horrifying me !
AmdanAbla99 2 years ago
not a surprise , muslims are never comfortable with truth.
canadatubeonly 2 years ago 4
yep, we are still waiting to hear those 'moderate' munafiqeen voices out there Hassan. Why the silence and why for so long? Hmmm. ...
peterpedant 2 years ago 2
Hassan,
"To Speak or be Silent?"
Your choice of title is interesting because it raises not only the issue of whether you should speak your mind, but also whether your critics should speak theirs.
You say you are hurt by the accusations levelled against you.
So the question is this: why should someone who thinks that your videos cause wider hatred spare your feelings by not speaking out, when you clearly reserve the right to speak out irrespective of the hurt caused?
cafeespresso99 2 years ago
Any intelligent person should welcome honest criticism and utilise it to make improvements.
AlexiusComnenos 2 years ago 4
cafeespresso99, Tamberlyn4u
Utterly shameful. You can't refute this mans arguments, you can't call him a liar or immoral, and you can't denounce him as a christian or zionist with an agenda so you resort to trying to guilt tripping him into silence
TheQuranSaysMoo 2 years ago 3
@Tamberlyn4u,
"...when someone...is looking to ..stir up a backlash..."
This is precisely the point I made to Hassan when I said that he represents an entry point which legitimizes and provides headroom for the more severe forms of bigotry.
IMO, Hassan's form of hate dissemination is even more dangerous than the gratuitous form practiced by the nutjobs, because they are clearly identifiable, whereas his poison is delivered much more discreetly.
cafeespresso99 2 years ago
It's more dangerous because you can't refute him or denounce him as a liar with an agenda. He's a genuine moral man who's former Muslim who knew the religion very well and you can't deal with that.
If you weren't such a hypocrite you'd be requesting all pro-Islamic videos on youtube be taken down since many muslims source Quran and Hadith as an excuse for forms of bigotry around the globe.
TheQuranSaysMoo 2 years ago 3
@TheQuranSaysMoo, I may take your comments a little more seriously if your alias didn't make your bigotry so transparent. Bigots such as yourself are in no position to lecture anyone on morality and ethics.
cafeespresso99 2 years ago
It doesnt make me a bigot to think a book or belief is stupid. You've no idea what I believe.
You just proved my point. Because of my name you can brush me off easily enough, yet with Hassan you can't. He scares you because your afraid of others leaving the fold of Islam as you find validation for your beliefs in seeing people join and thinking that people against it are ignorant or have an agenda.
TheQuranSaysMoo 2 years ago 5
Why is it bigoted to mock a book with an alias?
AlexiusComnenos 2 years ago
If all indiviuals can't stay anything criticizing islam, maybe it is time for the quran to remove the verses that criticize human behavior and other religions. If islam demands respect by asking for no criticism, maybe the quran should do the same and not mention or disrepest other religions. It is called mutual respect. That goes for the bible too.
tomtomttom 2 years ago 2
the quran would need to remove half of the content. It is vile and misogynstic. Over 100 verses full of violence against unbelievers. Islam is hate speech directed to non-muslims and women.
kirkyup 2 years ago 3
"Has it ever crossed your mind that his reasons for leaving Islam and producing these videos might not be any of your business?"
No, you're right, it isn't and neither is it yours, we wouldn't even be aware of it if it wasn't the fact that he puts up these videos, and thereby into the public domain to comment on.
Tamberlyn4u 2 years ago
The music. Who is it? What is it?
Flerndip22 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Islamia school must have provided a good living for him for a long time. Bearing that in mind, doesn't he owe it to Yusef/Cat Stevens and his other former colleagues not to mock everything they stand for? I repeat again, it must be a really compelling reason that made him act like that - and yet he seems rather vague on what that reason is.
Tamberlyn4u 2 years ago
Cat Stevens made a good living off of tons of non-Muslims back in the day. Did he not owe it to his fans and supporters of old not to mock everything they stand for?
TheQuranSaysMoo 2 years ago 5
@smooth crunchie (NOT TomTom!!)
"I think most of us can see Hasan is a good man if his Muslim friends and family cant see that then what does that tell us about Islam..."
Let's forget Islam for a minute, these are people we are discussing. I'm not so sure a good man would so willingly, for no good reason, so publicly turn on family and friends - those that, I presume, love/loved him - and know him better than you or I.
Tamberlyn4u 2 years ago
"these are people we are discussing"
But it is Islam that has conditioned them to feel this way? Speaking from experience todays Christians do not treat thier atheists/agnostics family members like this... even if they go on to criticize christianity.
SmoothCrunchie 2 years ago 2
You seem to think Muslims are not people and that they all go around making decisions based on the koran rather than common sense, not true at all. . People feel used, upset, let down for all kinds of reasons, Islam doesn't 'condition' people to do so,. But to you, I guess that 'principles' are another devious smokescreen put in place by that awful Islam and it's followers to make people feel guilty?
Tamberlyn4u 2 years ago
Well I am not about to start comparing Muslims to customers of a utility company. I dont know when we started talking about all Muslims because we were talking about a hypothetical group who specifically no longer liked/loved Hassan.
Lets look at it another way... Its true I would hate it if one of my family members decided to join Islam but and heres the important bit I wouldn't hate them... I wouldn't feel the need to disown them, even if they started criticizing my way of life.
SmoothCrunchie 2 years ago 2
You call that turning on them?
Are you so pathetic that you will not allow yourself to have a belief or idea that differs from a family or loved one?
TheQuranSaysMoo 2 years ago 4