MR. NILEKANI WE ARE HUMANS AND WE ARE INDIAN CITIZENS, ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF THIS LAND!! WE DONT NEED ANY OTHER PROOF!! YOU ARYANS CAME FROM CENTRAL ASIA AND RULED THIS LAND FOR SO LONG AND THE PROOF IS IN YOUR JEANS YOUR DNA!!!!!!!
Wow... She tried so many times to put words in his mouth... he tackled lot of them very well and at times... he agreed to her (when he contradicted himself later...) ... very interesting discussion... Nandan Nilekani ... all the best... but mera india jara jyadahi corrupt hai sir :( ... it hurts!!
I just cant believe his political way of putting the things in pessimistic perspective. The magic bullet came in to action with extreme effort of honest people like Anna, is absolutely beginning of the systematic changes our country should be bringing in and Every Indian voice it with full support.
His respect for politicians is ludicrous as politicians shuld stand as an example to serve people in best way, but in our country they are most corrupted and making millions under them more corruptd.
Mr.Nilekani we know what we are demanding from Government and we stand for Janlokpal. We Indians know that only Lokpal is not enough to eradicate the corruption, but nothing wrong if we get some strong system. We have started from somewhere, so what problem you have...
don’t misguide people on congress behalf. Tell us what you are doing to eradicate corruption???
Considering what has been said from 8.50 onwards and especially at 10.28 it would be interesting if there was a follow up interview on the Standing Committee's report delivered today
4. To say you have worked with politicians and find them honest...
let me just tell you a quote from a journalist who was meeting a leader accused of killing thousands - & he said "in person he appeared to be charm personified himself"
Same goes for these politicians who may charm the wits out of you in person, but it will boggle your mind at their stomach & capacity for corruption. One needs to be extremely petty to get power, be a politician. Humble good men rarely promote themselves
So, while I respect your opinion in saying that 'the agitation is unnecessary when the matter is before the standing committee' - I respectfully disagree.
As stated below - the intentions of the govt were very suspect from their actions. And just because you were impressed with the standing committee, and you give them a clean-chit - we have our own reasons to do the opposite.
3. The agitation and movement was 100% necessary - because if you followed the development of events astutely you would instantly know how the govt have been using all sorts of tactics to deter the movement and the Lokpal bill.
- They refused to even debate & discuss the issues (outrageous)
1. He talks about using economic-theories to tackle the problem of corruption. Very interesting, and they MAY actually work (very well). But first he needs to propose some fully developed ideas/solutions
2. Anna never claimed Lokpal is a cure-all for corruption. The clarity of their focus is evident from the fact that their agenda has ALWAYS been a 'strong Lokpal Bill' and not 'corruption in general' . So please don't accuse them of that.
Democracy is a tool to elect and select govt. Its not a philosophy on which you govt should be based. Majority is not always right infact majority always goes for convinience. The philosophy of govt should be to protect individual rights, property rights and equal oppurtunity for the weakest citizens and beings without voice. Half the Indians dont understand that democracy is mechanism and not philosophy - for that we have constitution. Use democratic word sparingly please.
UID has huge fallacy - govt's in power will start using this data to yield their influence and give freebies to citizens thus reducing the citizen power. Politician in power will offer freebies because they can get more votes and UID is the best tool they have. And then there rich groups who pay higher taxes and can lobby with govt to protect (why is there no voip in India?) and finally the middle class will bear the brunt.
@postwala I mean richest few would lobby to monopolise mines, water, telecom, agri-industries etc and use the data to sell better and make more money. Middle class would be penalised for working hard to bear with inflation and the govts misadventure. Unless the middle class wakes up - the govt of India will rob the peace out of every Indian.
@postwala I mean richest few would lobby to monopolise mines, water, telecom, agri-industries etc and use the data to sell better and make more money. Middle class would be penalised for working hard to bear with inflation and the govts misadventures like the freebies. Unless the middle class wakes up - the govt of India will rob the peace out of every Indian.
fine i agree with Mr. Nilekani that the fundamental from where the problem is starting needs to be checked i.e. the interface of common people with the choices. if one is not getting things done from one interface then switch to the other interface. But now the question? Sir we are talking about corruption and not interface. We are talking about changing the human tendency and behaviour, not the alternative? No matter how much interface U give it is the character of an individual that has2 chang
I applaud Nandan's efforts and comments in heading the UIDA program.
We have experienced unpleasant situations when dealing with the authorities in India. Nandan talks about who is drinking this coolaide! How about 2G scam, Bofors scandal, DBA handing over funds to RG stating that IG left behind a legacy of several Crores with him and that he was handing back the funds
The Government showed laxity in being open to the public. For example Passport office doors (already a small door) half
Sir.. come down and look at common man life. Your respect towards Politicians may grow up because you are getting all needful things on time without hassles. Agreed that we have N number of other issues.. but first lets start with one. Please dont discourage others by sitting happily under AC when someone who is trying to bring some change. Doubt if Nandan is still part of Infy, would he make same comments !!!
Sure, I agree with some aspects of what Mr.Nilekani is saying; there is a need for increased ease and transparency. And yes, transforming reforms are important too. His solutions are good for streamlining the system, so that common people are not hassled. While his idea will help solve a lot of problems, it is clever in that it will remove large-ticket corruption from the conscience of common people. I don't think the IAC is naïve enough to think that Lokpal is a silver bullet.
I appreciate what Nandan Nilekani is doing in UID project but I think he is also suffering from the same ego issue that what he is doing and the way he is doing is the way to go. This is a much bigger problem and does not solve the critical issue of scams like 2G etc where the people responsible have money tucked away in their swiss accounts and no one has power to get that money back.
I agree with nandan, being passionate and venting anger is not a good substitute for detailed, boring, hard process of law making and technology based solutions in law enforcement. Anna has done a good job of waking people up. Now lets use the parliamentary process and invent new technologies, process and make laws to prevent it from happening at all levels, big ticket or small ticket.
Hi Nandan, agreed we need to allow the system to take care of its job. But the political will of the current politicians is not upto the mark to tackle the corruption. Agreed that the standing committee is the best in world, but for it to work effectively to come out with a strong anti corruption bill, we need to provide with strong bill in the first place.
from one side of his mouth he says the problem is with the governement and the corruption is where there is something when the govt is involved. on the otherside of his mouth he says the people on the commitee who looks at the laws are fantastic.
I am not sure if he understands that the whole 2G scam was a corporate scam and not a govt scam - the dude A raja took only 200Crore, it is the corporation which took the 1.76 lakh crore.
Agreed Standing committee and its procedures ... but that doesn't mean they have got all the time in the world to do their due diligence. The time we take in India to pass any bill for that matter is extremely long and it should improve upon its efficiency. 20-30 days is enough for a team of experts like those if they work efficiently. So Mr. Nilekani, I urge you to understand what you preach in IT companies " To improve efficiency with less time and better outPut".
Agreed Standing committee and its procedures ... but that doesn't mean they have got all the time in the world to do their due diligence. The time we take in India to pass any bill for that matter is extremely long and it should improve upon its efficiency. 20-30 days is enough for a team of experts like those if they work efficiently. So Mr. Nilekani, I urge you to understand what you preach in IT companies " To improve efficiency with less time and better outout".
Even if all the commoners do turn honest - how can we avoid CWG, Cash-for-vote, 2G-mess, military kick-backs, coffin-gates, etc., I'm sure there is CVC, CAG, CBI and other institutions. Consolidating all vigilance related institutions under one-body does make sense to prevent mega-scams before they happen..
he is right...what if tomorrow someone else follows annas path and demand another bill. we have parliament let them decide what is best.I respect Anna's intention and efforts but as far as lokpal bill is concerned he is too inexperienced to formulate one to end corruption. So he should not demand that only his bill should be considered.
A change certainly is needed. But the Anna way? it may not even be sustainable let alone be optimal
The reason is simple, Jan lokpal is proposing a fourth entity in addition to the judiciary, executive and the legislature. As Nandan rightfully highlighted, adding a fourth layer to check the other three is simply gonna make things worse
According to Jan lokpal, the anti-corruption way is only through punishment of the bribe takers (fear & intimidation). Think of Maximillien Robispierre
unique identification project COST 60000 crore. it is reduced. we have PAN NO.,PASSPORT,RATION CARD AND MORE.Over and above this proposal is a national waste.Nilekani's miracles in IT sector does not working.this project should have been given to panchayat/civil supplies departmet,they could have done it meticulously.Aadhar card received is hopeless .Even driving licence.RC book PAN cards are scientificalyy made.Information contained is a flop. PRAVEEN PURAKKAD
TOTALLY DISLIKE! He brought in the UID & tech aided streamlining 5-10 times
Plus, his focus was on re-working the 60 years of bureaucracy which will take ages...
And 80% of the time he was talkin about retail corruption but not the big ticket corruption which cost the nation billions!
First and easiest step would be to put a check on further corruption by enacting Lokpal, and gradually start refining the systems. He himself said it: Lokpal is one of the 15 things. Lets start with this!
BOTTOM Line - Indian Babus will understand the language of LATHI.. And lokpal provides a lathi well.. I think the most important part of lokpal is the citizen's charter. WHERE DEFAULT ASSUMPTON for any delay of any work is that the concerned OFFICER IS DELAYING THE THINGS with theINTENT OF CURRUPTION.. thats how it should be.. because CURRUPTION IS BY DEFAULT in india.
Very unfortunate to see cha negative attitude from Nandan about this Bill..He is acting like an IT Manager who is trying to save is UID project by apeasing his sponsor -Govt. Of India. What he is saying is foolish. One example- In tehesil office where they have implemented software systems to register the documents..Most of the times they will tell you that system is not working come tomorrow. You PASS ON SOME GANDHIBABAS(Rs500 bills) and SYSTEM STARTS WORKING RIGHTAWAY.I have experienced this
Nandan Nilkerni; for him money is the GOD so he can react .He thinks money can buy anthing everything in the world including Father and mother .He has blind and he is seeing only US society type and Anna Hazare moments is for poor.
Anna and his team said " jan lokpal is just the beginning against corruption", there is more to be done against corruption,..so dont criticize the movement..really upset seeing people like nandan and aruna roy really not understanding the situation
I totally agree with you. A country is not run by fasting and creating anarchy. It takes a lot more than that to govern the largest democracy in this world. Who doesn't want to end corruption? But, it is time to get real, realise our hypocrisy and act responsibly towards the nation we all claim to love!
Who is the sponsor of annaa? As a nation it has rules ... and its also to anna.. As a nation India give over freedom to this type of people and media that makes problem to the growth of India.. annaaa.. will also fly soon like that kalla swami .. also now anna's drama is political and RSS is pling behind this.. Still all financial problems happens in all the world.. India did't affect its in a bigger way..its only due to a grate leader Manmohan sings great vision about nation...
nandan nilekani has a point--individuals should be honest in their day to day dealings--give no bribe ,accept no bribe--apart from a good lok pal bill we also need strong moral appeal for citizens to be more patriotic in carrying out day to day duties--i write stories against corruption by middle rung employees--so a wider perspective is more important --one should work within existing democratic system to fight corruption
There is a city of 10000 people. It has 100 policemen and 20 criminals. We cannot say that let us try and change these 20 people and make them good. But the 100 policmen 'CAN' catch them & put them behind bars when they do something wrong.
The question is - when somebody does something wrong, why are they NOT getting caught? That is exactly why we need bills like the Jan Lokpal - to have stronger systems in catching these people.
HE IS TOTALLY RIGHT.. ALL ARE AGANIST CORRUPTION.. BUT JUSY LOKPAL BILL WONT STOP CORRUPTION. PEOPLES HAVE LOTS OF EXPECTATIONS.. THAT WONT COME TO REALITY JUST BECAUSE OF LOKPAL..
I beleive Mr. Nilekani is not following the movement properly...Anna and his team is talking about system change only...and jan lokpal bill is first step towards that...and if people who are managing the current set-up are corrupt and pushing people under them to do corruption then there is only solution to this problem...a revolution and that is what Anna and his team has done now...he may not agree with the movement but he and Anna's team demands are same..."A SYSTEM CHANGE IS REQUIRED"... :)
what the hell... Get the UID and all the corruption related problem will be solved using technology. What a load of BULLSHIT... Nilekani sir your financial status itself tells that you dont have the slightest idea HOW the CORRUPTION starts and how it could be eradicated(/punishing the guilty). And to add Anna Hazare has seen this world more than you need.. If you want to tell people to get the UID's this is wrong way of Advertising.... So shut your trap.
People who are leading the Janlokal are never said that their bill will eradicate 100% corruption.its just one of the things as Nandan said.i am asking you one thing nandan,do u think this UID project is going to stop some scam like 2G or CWG.what i feel is ,UID is basically for giving better service to the people and JanLokpal for making people accountable for what they have done
I'm sorry to say Mr. Nilekani, in simple words this interview totally ridiculous. Only stringent laws can curb corruption, and all your other ideas UID, automation etc.. can be even a success only after you eradicate corruption. So if you have 15 things that's fine this is the first one why are you against it? I did not expect this from a person whom i was respecting till this, go and learn from your friend Mr. NarayanaMurthy, who has put the thoughts of a common man in such a simplistic way...
This guy is a big idiot who talks non-sense ! If passing a bill that has stringent provisions cannot make a step forward in nailing corruption, Can just giving a laminated plastic UID card and ration card eliminate corruption ! He is a complete idiot !
glorifying UID? but there's a huge question mark ovr the authenticity and accuracy of the biometric techniques used for giving people UIDs, most of the developed countries who relied on these techniques hv abandoned them n termed them as waste of time n money. so, to me it just appears, it is another big scam to waste money on impractical projects (thousands of crores hv been spent alrdy), and later label them as inefficient and impractical and abandon after u hv deposited crores in yr account.
Off-course Jan Lokpal Bill wont solve ALL the corruption... BUT at-least it will START the process! Even a 3 yr old would understand this logic..... ! I hope Everyone now says NO to corruption...Azzadi ki dusri ladhai :) Jai Hind!
YOU are wrong wrong wrong. Noone of the other alternate ways can displace Janlokpal though they are highly complementary. NOBODY said Janlokpal will be one sufficient tool to STOP corruption, its you and media either misleading and not reading. Janlokpal is mandatory and also UID, TAGUP, RTI reform to help it improve it.
3 TAGUP ideas are valuable and can prevent corruption in many areas by bypassing, BUT what teeth it has for big ticket corruption? Show how swan like equity dilution scam be investigated by TAGUP?
4 Last but not least, Corrupt Govt. can force your agency to add few lines of code to their benefit. How do you stop it? INITIATE investigation without Janlokpal?
Unfortunate and wrong statement by Nilekani. Want to ask him
1 Janlokpal has teeth, Can UID ever have teeth?
UID like RTI can assist probe by produce trace, and proof but how will you recover money? How will you punish the evil?
2 Can people have access to the analytic tools of your monitoring module? Janlokpal is directly controlled by the people. People can take grievience to Janlokpal even in third party case. Can we do it with UID?
who has told that this is a magic wand!!..yes we have so many process in ..and all knows what happens thanks to it -red tap-ism..excellent system of law making cleared 13 bills in a matter of hours..well thats a great statement! ...the system is not ready to argue the bill in public..its not ready to make the tapes come out in public..Give the benefit of doubt to a GOVT to broke law multiple times in a day!trust them; have you read their bill mr nilekeni?
Way to go Mr. Nilekani!! Thank God there's at least one sensible man in our country!!
This is what the chaps on the streets say, "I want my Government to be completely honest, and then i want it to leave me to my devices so that i can be corrupt, in whichever form i choose to be."
News Flash: The Indian Government is an alien race from the planet Zoltrag, and is exhibiting corrupt traits that are alien to the local populace. Argghh... must... revolt!
Mr. Nilekani, when presenting a bill (not like UID) to the standing committee, which is almost against the members of that committee.. then u need this type of a movement.. respect this movement for that at least, if not for anything more!
Oh BTW, Mr. Nandan himself answered the question for rolling in the Jan Lokpal Bill (is this correct?).
First he said: Politicians are extremely hard working and not all are corrupt, and his respect for Politicos have gone up! This statement is quite contradictory or just say there is half truth in it. I mean, I agree not ALL people/politicians/entities are corrupt but I can surely say that not less than 2/3rd are corruption. That's huge! That's why Indians need that JLP bill as a "Starter"
He said: "Why this (Anna's Movement) has reached to this level!" Mr. Nandan has clearly demonstrated that he's unfit for the UID project in the first place, let alone pondering on tacking the Corruption on multiple levels.
He once again proved himself wrong by asking: "Why do we need this agitation?"
Overall, his comments were quite average to be honest.
the protest is justified in my opinion, I am not convinced by Nilekani's argument on Lok Pal bill , if the campaign set by Hazare to enforce people's law is inane to root out corruption, then overall function of what-he-calls-right-system will never see the light of the day as well. His remarks at 9:10 about agitation and supporting statements about parliament confining to UID project is just outrageous in this context of civil society's struggle for anti-corruption.
It is time to demand the ouster of people like Nilekani. Anna's protest doesn't need Nilekani's stamp of approval. Actually, Nandan and his UID are unjustified.
Ofcourse UID can curb correction. UID will provide a large identity platform to government, to public sector, to private sector for efficient service delivery, and accountability systems can be built on top of the platform to ensure that no corrupt/fraudelent transaction goes unnoticed.
@sgopi71 who told you we haven't read the bills? If I say Yes we have full faith on the intent of all 500+ parliamentarians ... that will be the biggest lie.. no we don't have any faith in these politicians(atleast 90% of them are the amng most corrupt people) and that's why we are supporting the janlokpal bill
He is there to give us a tag in the name of National Identity Number. He feels threatened that he will be unable to sale the Data he will be collecting through the UID Project if the Jan Lokpal bill comes into force.
Now new battle - @MetrazolElectricity - Why do you think this is dictatorial? How many times have you voted since you were 18? Was that democratic. Please do excuse my language but honestly, we cant afford to be sluggish on judicial procedures anymore when we are growing population wise on a exploding rate! So please read read the jan lokpal bill once more and think how is a civil body dictatorial!
Illuminating. I've been ambivalent about this for awhile. Like any other citizen, I loathe corruption in India but vesting powers to challenge every high public office in the nation in one office is dictatorial. This nation-wide release of frustrations reminds me of the Weimar Germany and the rise of the Nazis. What we need is grossly limited government and an enlarged private sector, not a return to those unenlightened socialist days of the License Raj.In short, these protesters are simpletons
So you want everyone to trust Nandan's UID will do the magic. Also, looks like you are suggesting somehow to trust government and let alone politicians (fyi...at least 1/3 of the MPs in loksabha have criminal background).
I think everyone agrees that Lokpal bill is not the magic formula for the corruption. But, why not give it a try.
Also,I think everyone would agree that majority of Civil Society group has the background and experience to justify their involvement in initial draft.
@chrtiru the problem is precisely as u admitted u like Anna, bcoz u dislike politicians. And Anna being in the position he is in, after having presented his bill as the supreme document to eradicate 60% corruption (why 60%) in this country; doesnt want to now see reason bcoz what'll he tell his people. So go on fast, whether there's a specific objective or not. Anna has done great to bring the issue into foray & now should allow the State reasonable time & space to function. U cant coerce.
@sgopi71..You are missing the point...its not the question of me or all folks that are supporting the movement like anna or not. To begin with, the reason Anna started his fasting bcoz nothing that was proposed by Civil society made it into the government's lok pal bill. I'll give you a simple example:
@sgopi71..One of the feature is: Anyone complaining against a corrupt official if proved not guilty, the whistle-blower will be sentenced for 2 yrs in prison. But, if the corrupt official is proved to be guilty, he/she will be sentenced for ONLY 6 months..Does it make any sense...totally ridiculous.
Once again, everyone agrees what is proposed in Jan Lokpal bill is not perfect. But the 5 congress members of the drafting committee killed it before it can be discussed in parliament.
@chromophore I have heard him. These are my personal opinions.. I have made my point and you have done yours. All need corruption to end and bullshit to stop. If you feel Nandan is saying good and that will reduce corruption, sure yes. But UID is not the only way. Check RSBY.in website. There are a lot of schemes by govt which cant be just worked out because of this corruption. Jan lo0kpal or anything else for that matter is not complete in itself - it needs modifications but this is a start!
@shubh11111 Nobody says it is not a start. It is a start that we have a lot of hope in. But people should welcome all viewpoints. It is almost like if one takes a line slightly different than Anna they are being seen as corrupt or congress agents. Come on!
The lokpal bill should be made and passed. No doubt. But existing institutions need to be worked and improved too. It is dangerous also to take team anna on faith. It should not be bulldozed through.
@shubh11111 Take one example: Of the supreme court. 20 years ago there was a minor change in the way judges were appointed. One single move in an existing institution has gone a long way. People now look at the supereme court with hope.
There are so many other bodies; The Election commission. One needs to look at the root of the problem. If the lokpal is bulldozed and something goes wrong, it will ensure that the change all want will be set back by many years. It will be a wrong precedent.
All you guys who are blindly behind the Jan Lokpal Bill & who are swayed by simplistic presentations of the Bill by Mr. Kejriwal & Mr. Bhushan's, coated with all important patriotic anecdotes of Gandhi Topi & National Flag, are doing so without even really understanding the actual manifestations of the Bill. Take it from me in the next 15 days PM & higher judiciary will be out of Jan Lokpal Bill. All the energy & spirit will wean down on its own, when the details are actually deliberated.
@sgopi71 I AM ANNA ....i want to make a point to all you people AGAINST him. he has a great plan . even if PM & higher judiciary in preview of Lokpal is an unjustied point ,ANNA on the AGREEMENT TABLE with gov will give away to these 2 manifestations of his version of the bill in return of gov agreeing on other EFFECTIVE points of his version .
we all surely agree on the point that gov has no intention of making an effective bill then why not support anna ?
@simar4ind You are willing believe that 500+ Parliamentarian've a conspiratorial intent to debunk a good law. 5 guys can conspire/Plan or can make mistakes but not 500 Parliamentarians, with due research on the subject by the Standing Committee. How can u impute intent? C’mon guys y only Anna’s Bill is effective?Do u even know the number of versions of the Bill? Do u know how many guys like Anna, but who don’t bugle around r working on it. Pls read the Bill by NCPRI & get a perspective
I'm sure Civil Society never said: "my bill or no bill" and that is why they had discussions with Committee members from Congress. Search for youTube videos of Arvind Kejriwal's talk in IIT. You will see how the initial version of bill formed by just Civil Society members has evolved over time. Today only, everyone would have read how they are open for Judiciary in the bill.
With all due respect to Nandan, but when he says his respect for politicians has gone up in last 2 years, it laughable.
He isn't against corruption but is questioning the logic of fanatic support of Anna and a thought process that Anna Team's Jan LokPal bill can resolve everything. We are creating one more authority/police in a not so perfect system who will act post-facto. Anna seems to be basking in his moment of glory, with a stupid arrest and then a moronic release of Anna. No one is in favour of corruption, but one cannot say-“my bill or no bill”. Guys in this forum, emotions apart get to specifics & details
Problem 1) There is no recommendation given by him other than UID 2) UID cannot fight corruption. I stopped viewing this interview after 7 minutes since no specific betterment solution given.
I have utmost respect for Nandan. But its sad to see that corporate executives and businessman like Nandan are falling into the trap of politicians. Its shame when he says that politicians are hardworking and his respect for politicians have gone up.
So please for God's sake, to understand Anna, try to put urselves into his shoes or the shoes of the poor people supporting him. Assuming we don't have time to Join their protests/mission/share their problems, atleast we can just try to Imagine for a second, the kind of situation they have been facing throughout their struggling lives, and the ANGLE by which they are seeing this problem....
If I were to speak as an IT Engineer, certainly we wud never defend Anna or such likes. We r getting paid on Time, never had any interface with Babus/govt, evrything automated, even if vegetables r increasing in price, but we hardly notice the impact on our savings. We hardly notice environment pollution/Electricity outage/lack of drinking water, as evry facility is available to us 24/7 ...
No doubt Nandan is high profile Technology person, and he can see the problem only thru mindset of Technology / Automation. We need to also understand that he is having KEY position in Govt, where he has the rick of losing his position, if he speaks a single statement against Govt. He has also to ensure that he remains a Bread provider for Infy or other IT companies, by getting more n more such projects like UID...
Totally agree with you Mr Nilekani. there are enough laws already that can be strengthened. Bringing more policing just as you say will make the corrupt more vigilant. I truly believe we must as you say "automate" the system so that things are crystal "transparent". All these years the policing hasnt worke out, guess its time to try other means and methods to try out.... its more of as you say "old wine in a new bottle"
@bibinanto - Beg to differ. Nandan does not need publicity. UID needs! And Nandan took this current issue to put light on UID. And boss.. FINO is also doing lot of stuff in the RSBY area, that is also enabling bottom of pyramid customers - so please, lets brush up facts first and then comment. As far as i am concerned - i dont give comments in videos for the heck of doing it! I mean it when i do.
This is a pitiful argument by nandan nilekeni. He says there should be software like aadhar which is 1900 crores. where a common man can do the work with technology..He sees for his business and not for the good of the people.He is a business men makes his business point of view
Infosys is a manufacturing center that mass produces drones. It clones the drones and brainwashes them to slavishly serve up their clients. A by product of that culture is Nan-dan-Nil-e-kani. This genius of drones helms UID project. Tomorrow, a Bangladesh illegal will manage to get a fake UID with aid from the Pakisatani boot leg industry perfect that technology. Then this UID and Nilekani will become big time buffoons. SAgarika Ghose .. a communist, feudal, loud mouthed & twisted specied. Shame
Nilekani's views are absolutely right. I strongly agree with him. How the corruption is seen by the people, differs. Sagarika asked Nilekani that, should we not stop the big-ticket corruption? I would say, was that a question?
What is corruption, in today's India?
If we are afford to pay the bribe, we don't talk, we don't agitate, we just move on. If we are not afford to pay the bribe, we call it as "corruption"; Re.1 or Rs.1 crore, it's corruption! There is no such thing as big sin & small sin
What Nandan is talking about is the REAL issue. Note that he does not dismiss lokpal as people are saying below in comments. He is saying we need to use technology etc to improve the system as a whole. Listen to him carefully. Such a GREAT interview. Finally somebody is talking sense.
That's the difference between Agitators and Administrators.
Agitators think putting up Laws and Police will cure the system, where as able Administrators always try to cure the problem at the source so you don't need such expensive policing. That is what Nandan is talking about.
In Lean we have a concept of Pokayok, which is known as Mistake Proofing.
Serive delivery shd be strong, Lokpal bills r not "silver bullets" which will solve all the troubles.
@bibinanto I understood better than u. He is just trying to deny lokapal bill and trying to get publicity on work he is doing UID project, and thinks UID will solve corruption, it will not solve the corruption our ministers are doing like 2g, CWG etc....
(part2) I think its time to take the matter out of these so called 'leaders's' hands and its time to really start drinking from this kool-aid rather than just standing aside & talking about some technological solution
Very unfortunate Mr. Nilekani.. With all due respect, you have got it all wrong.. Since when 'not being a perfect solution' is stopping you from even making an attempt to solve the issue.. thats true. because thats what exactly anna hazare is doing.. You can not criticize the attempt just because you don't think its not going to address the issue in its entirety.. After 65 years given to politicians to make effective laws and curb the corruption, if its not sufficient then (contd..)
This is bad.. I never expected Nandan to keep coming back to UID project when the question is being asked about jan lokpal bill. This is just attempt to gain publicity. Say NO to something which millions are looking forward to and you gain mileage from this. Bad way. Not expected of Nandan!
Jan LOkpal bill I do agree might need many refinements till it is workable.. but it has to start from somewhere and here is it!! A man like Nandan should not just deny this to gain publicity for the UID
Mr. Nandan Nilekani, This is not a fixed price software project where you will be given a fixed amount of time to do requirement analysis and then execute the project. You may be expert in your own profession but failed miserably when giving advice on anticorruption protest. If you think there is better way of doing things then please come out of your air conditioned office and start the protest in your own sweet way.
@shubh11111 wat do you mean by saying he is looking for publicity for UID project... Do you think UID project is some talent show for which you need to a publicity stunt... go read about UID before making such nonsensical comments...
@shubh11111 Its the news anchor..I wont be surprised if the interview has been terribly edited..notice how she tries to put words in his mouth..The channel is well known to have biased views n news
Mr Nandan should understand that jan lok pal bill is one step to his broad views. Jan lok pal bill cannot eradicate corruption all together but it's a step to the eradication of it.
After all this Corruption, Corrupt politicians cannot be justified and spared by saying there is also good politicians and there exsit excellent standing committee. All tools aganist Corruption should be incorporated jan lok pal bill, technology, etc. It is not possible to have all tools in one shot. Its a step by step procedure. As per now first step!! jan lok pal bill and which will encourge the good and reduce bad.
Need to think what he says UID can only cost the country as how successful they can be in terms of people getting their rights? Does he really know what corruption mean as he might be another person in the system, Jan Lokpal bill will only scare the politicians to take bribe? UID costs the common man what about the money in SWISS BANKS!!! kindly work on that rather than this stupid thing. Plz educate your self dont copy the west for SSN with UID.
Nandan keep talking about UID project. How an UID alone will solve the corruptions the MPs, MLAs and government officials doing. He is trying to get attention for the work he is doing. Shame on you...
PART1: being from same alma matter as you mr nilekani, i feel proud....but in this context your strategic concept of UID to curb corruption seems to going over my head.....may be the same reason why ur idea could not buy the public support as compared to Anna's Jan lokpal. At this moment, if i have to pay bribe to get my driving license how can u assure getting the UID will be a hassle free process?? So as a common man i believe we need a stronger Lokpal bill so as no official will ever have an
MR. NILEKANI WE ARE HUMANS AND WE ARE INDIAN CITIZENS, ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF THIS LAND!! WE DONT NEED ANY OTHER PROOF!! YOU ARYANS CAME FROM CENTRAL ASIA AND RULED THIS LAND FOR SO LONG AND THE PROOF IS IN YOUR JEANS YOUR DNA!!!!!!!
bluesamful 1 month ago
Wow... She tried so many times to put words in his mouth... he tackled lot of them very well and at times... he agreed to her (when he contradicted himself later...) ... very interesting discussion... Nandan Nilekani ... all the best... but mera india jara jyadahi corrupt hai sir :( ... it hurts!!
ARRayWilliamJohnson 1 month ago
CNN---- Congress National Network
musicalnights 2 months ago
I just cant believe his political way of putting the things in pessimistic perspective. The magic bullet came in to action with extreme effort of honest people like Anna, is absolutely beginning of the systematic changes our country should be bringing in and Every Indian voice it with full support.
His respect for politicians is ludicrous as politicians shuld stand as an example to serve people in best way, but in our country they are most corrupted and making millions under them more corruptd.
prasadsvln 2 months ago
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Mr.Nilekani we know what we are demanding from Government and we stand for Janlokpal. We Indians know that only Lokpal is not enough to eradicate the corruption, but nothing wrong if we get some strong system. We have started from somewhere, so what problem you have...
don’t misguide people on congress behalf. Tell us what you are doing to eradicate corruption???
Tell me what’s going about UIDAI project…
AmitRecognized 2 months ago
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AmitRecognized 2 months ago
Considering what has been said from 8.50 onwards and especially at 10.28 it would be interesting if there was a follow up interview on the Standing Committee's report delivered today
zenrainman 2 months ago in playlist Lokpal Bill
Part 4
4. To say you have worked with politicians and find them honest...
let me just tell you a quote from a journalist who was meeting a leader accused of killing thousands - & he said "in person he appeared to be charm personified himself"
Same goes for these politicians who may charm the wits out of you in person, but it will boggle your mind at their stomach & capacity for corruption. One needs to be extremely petty to get power, be a politician. Humble good men rarely promote themselves
whatever041085 4 months ago
Part 3
So, while I respect your opinion in saying that 'the agitation is unnecessary when the matter is before the standing committee' - I respectfully disagree.
As stated below - the intentions of the govt were very suspect from their actions. And just because you were impressed with the standing committee, and you give them a clean-chit - we have our own reasons to do the opposite.
Continued in Part 4...
whatever041085 4 months ago
Part 2
3. The agitation and movement was 100% necessary - because if you followed the development of events astutely you would instantly know how the govt have been using all sorts of tactics to deter the movement and the Lokpal bill.
- They refused to even debate & discuss the issues (outrageous)
- Presented a hilarious, extremely weak bill
- Allegations against members (tapes & CD's)
- Arresting Anna, not letting him agitate
- Banning bulk sms
The intentions of govt were clearly evident
whatever041085 4 months ago
Few things:
1. He talks about using economic-theories to tackle the problem of corruption. Very interesting, and they MAY actually work (very well). But first he needs to propose some fully developed ideas/solutions
2. Anna never claimed Lokpal is a cure-all for corruption. The clarity of their focus is evident from the fact that their agenda has ALWAYS been a 'strong Lokpal Bill' and not 'corruption in general' . So please don't accuse them of that.
Continued in Part 2...
whatever041085 4 months ago
indian is corrupt because there is not any deterant,, not redressal,not law, no listening there is not accountiblity,,
1966singh 4 months ago
Democracy is a tool to elect and select govt. Its not a philosophy on which you govt should be based. Majority is not always right infact majority always goes for convinience. The philosophy of govt should be to protect individual rights, property rights and equal oppurtunity for the weakest citizens and beings without voice. Half the Indians dont understand that democracy is mechanism and not philosophy - for that we have constitution. Use democratic word sparingly please.
postwala 5 months ago
Nandan Nilkeni is congress chela. thats a fact.
postwala 5 months ago
UID has huge fallacy - govt's in power will start using this data to yield their influence and give freebies to citizens thus reducing the citizen power. Politician in power will offer freebies because they can get more votes and UID is the best tool they have. And then there rich groups who pay higher taxes and can lobby with govt to protect (why is there no voip in India?) and finally the middle class will bear the brunt.
postwala 5 months ago
@postwala I mean richest few would lobby to monopolise mines, water, telecom, agri-industries etc and use the data to sell better and make more money. Middle class would be penalised for working hard to bear with inflation and the govts misadventure. Unless the middle class wakes up - the govt of India will rob the peace out of every Indian.
postwala 5 months ago
@postwala I mean richest few would lobby to monopolise mines, water, telecom, agri-industries etc and use the data to sell better and make more money. Middle class would be penalised for working hard to bear with inflation and the govts misadventures like the freebies. Unless the middle class wakes up - the govt of India will rob the peace out of every Indian.
postwala 5 months ago
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he has a point.
xpressions1 5 months ago
fine i agree with Mr. Nilekani that the fundamental from where the problem is starting needs to be checked i.e. the interface of common people with the choices. if one is not getting things done from one interface then switch to the other interface. But now the question? Sir we are talking about corruption and not interface. We are talking about changing the human tendency and behaviour, not the alternative? No matter how much interface U give it is the character of an individual that has2 chang
benjamingulla 6 months ago
I applaud Nandan's efforts and comments in heading the UIDA program.
We have experienced unpleasant situations when dealing with the authorities in India. Nandan talks about who is drinking this coolaide! How about 2G scam, Bofors scandal, DBA handing over funds to RG stating that IG left behind a legacy of several Crores with him and that he was handing back the funds
The Government showed laxity in being open to the public. For example Passport office doors (already a small door) half
captguru1 6 months ago
Clearly Nandan had 3 motives in this interview:
1) Portray UID as a means of removing all the corruption at the level of a common man.
2) To Portray the Standing committee in good light.
3) To Portray the Politicians in good light.
One can see his anxiety during the interview.
NITINADDRESS 6 months ago
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NITINADDRESS 6 months ago
Sir.. come down and look at common man life. Your respect towards Politicians may grow up because you are getting all needful things on time without hassles. Agreed that we have N number of other issues.. but first lets start with one. Please dont discourage others by sitting happily under AC when someone who is trying to bring some change. Doubt if Nandan is still part of Infy, would he make same comments !!!
sree542 6 months ago
He is perfect..Hindustani aaam admi bandhu logo plz try to differentiate between anti-corruption and jonlokpal..
fireahmed56 6 months ago
Sure, I agree with some aspects of what Mr.Nilekani is saying; there is a need for increased ease and transparency. And yes, transforming reforms are important too. His solutions are good for streamlining the system, so that common people are not hassled. While his idea will help solve a lot of problems, it is clever in that it will remove large-ticket corruption from the conscience of common people. I don't think the IAC is naïve enough to think that Lokpal is a silver bullet.
neerajamb 6 months ago
" It is not ANNA'S ideas ; it is bjp's disruptions to uprise again & stop INDIA'S progress "
narayananraveen 6 months ago
The bill is a holy cow now. You object the bill, get ready to die.
deepucyriac1 6 months ago
@deepucyriac1 So much for people talking about democratic/constitutional right to protest some days ago.
chromophore 6 months ago
He's just selling a multi-billion dollar IT solution to the Government. In fact, he might need corrupt politicians to get the deal going.
vsutaria 6 months ago
I appreciate what Nandan Nilekani is doing in UID project but I think he is also suffering from the same ego issue that what he is doing and the way he is doing is the way to go. This is a much bigger problem and does not solve the critical issue of scams like 2G etc where the people responsible have money tucked away in their swiss accounts and no one has power to get that money back.
ndkhator 6 months ago
I agree with nandan, being passionate and venting anger is not a good substitute for detailed, boring, hard process of law making and technology based solutions in law enforcement. Anna has done a good job of waking people up. Now lets use the parliamentary process and invent new technologies, process and make laws to prevent it from happening at all levels, big ticket or small ticket.
vm560064 6 months ago
Hi Nandan, agreed we need to allow the system to take care of its job. But the political will of the current politicians is not upto the mark to tackle the corruption. Agreed that the standing committee is the best in world, but for it to work effectively to come out with a strong anti corruption bill, we need to provide with strong bill in the first place.
feelthylove 6 months ago
from one side of his mouth he says the problem is with the governement and the corruption is where there is something when the govt is involved. on the otherside of his mouth he says the people on the commitee who looks at the laws are fantastic.
I am not sure if he understands that the whole 2G scam was a corporate scam and not a govt scam - the dude A raja took only 200Crore, it is the corporation which took the 1.76 lakh crore.
seshankvish9 6 months ago
Agreed Standing committee and its procedures ... but that doesn't mean they have got all the time in the world to do their due diligence. The time we take in India to pass any bill for that matter is extremely long and it should improve upon its efficiency. 20-30 days is enough for a team of experts like those if they work efficiently. So Mr. Nilekani, I urge you to understand what you preach in IT companies " To improve efficiency with less time and better outPut".
anknatani 6 months ago
Agreed Standing committee and its procedures ... but that doesn't mean they have got all the time in the world to do their due diligence. The time we take in India to pass any bill for that matter is extremely long and it should improve upon its efficiency. 20-30 days is enough for a team of experts like those if they work efficiently. So Mr. Nilekani, I urge you to understand what you preach in IT companies " To improve efficiency with less time and better outout".
anknatani 6 months ago
Nandan is dog of Congress govt...so he respects his owners! It is not his fault, it is tendency of every dog
mky602 6 months ago
Even if all the commoners do turn honest - how can we avoid CWG, Cash-for-vote, 2G-mess, military kick-backs, coffin-gates, etc., I'm sure there is CVC, CAG, CBI and other institutions. Consolidating all vigilance related institutions under one-body does make sense to prevent mega-scams before they happen..
vinayonutube 6 months ago
and we believe that Mr. Nandan ji, just gave two presentations and got the UID contract which is worth just a few crores.
SaradaVishnubhatla 6 months ago
he is right...what if tomorrow someone else follows annas path and demand another bill. we have parliament let them decide what is best.I respect Anna's intention and efforts but as far as lokpal bill is concerned he is too inexperienced to formulate one to end corruption. So he should not demand that only his bill should be considered.
funny3468 6 months ago 5
A change certainly is needed. But the Anna way? it may not even be sustainable let alone be optimal
The reason is simple, Jan lokpal is proposing a fourth entity in addition to the judiciary, executive and the legislature. As Nandan rightfully highlighted, adding a fourth layer to check the other three is simply gonna make things worse
According to Jan lokpal, the anti-corruption way is only through punishment of the bribe takers (fear & intimidation). Think of Maximillien Robispierre
MrBalamus 6 months ago
ALL BUSINESSMEN WONT SURVIVE WITHOUT CORRUPTION.
venky442 6 months ago
NANDAN NILEKANI IS DOING GVT WORK UID .HE NEEDS TO HAVE CORRUPT POLITICIANS.
venky442 6 months ago
unique identification project COST 60000 crore. it is reduced. we have PAN NO.,PASSPORT,RATION CARD AND MORE.Over and above this proposal is a national waste.Nilekani's miracles in IT sector does not working.this project should have been given to panchayat/civil supplies departmet,they could have done it meticulously.Aadhar card received is hopeless .Even driving licence.RC book PAN cards are scientificalyy made.Information contained is a flop. PRAVEEN PURAKKAD
vpraveen59 6 months ago
i wonder how he'll be able to deliver UID. He doesnt seem to understand what common man understands about jan lokpal.
appu210881 6 months ago
@appu210881 so what does the common man think of the jan lokpal??
jaskaran1107 6 months ago
TOTALLY DISLIKE! He brought in the UID & tech aided streamlining 5-10 times
Plus, his focus was on re-working the 60 years of bureaucracy which will take ages...
And 80% of the time he was talkin about retail corruption but not the big ticket corruption which cost the nation billions!
First and easiest step would be to put a check on further corruption by enacting Lokpal, and gradually start refining the systems. He himself said it: Lokpal is one of the 15 things. Lets start with this!
codename373 6 months ago
BOTTOM Line - Indian Babus will understand the language of LATHI.. And lokpal provides a lathi well.. I think the most important part of lokpal is the citizen's charter. WHERE DEFAULT ASSUMPTON for any delay of any work is that the concerned OFFICER IS DELAYING THE THINGS with theINTENT OF CURRUPTION.. thats how it should be.. because CURRUPTION IS BY DEFAULT in india.
pinkytest1980 6 months ago
Very unfortunate to see cha negative attitude from Nandan about this Bill..He is acting like an IT Manager who is trying to save is UID project by apeasing his sponsor -Govt. Of India. What he is saying is foolish. One example- In tehesil office where they have implemented software systems to register the documents..Most of the times they will tell you that system is not working come tomorrow. You PASS ON SOME GANDHIBABAS(Rs500 bills) and SYSTEM STARTS WORKING RIGHTAWAY.I have experienced this
pinkytest1980 6 months ago
Nandan Nilkerni; for him money is the GOD so he can react .He thinks money can buy anthing everything in the world including Father and mother .He has blind and he is seeing only US society type and Anna Hazare moments is for poor.
So as in his own words Nandan is a bastard
georgemk72 6 months ago
Anna and his team said " jan lokpal is just the beginning against corruption", there is more to be done against corruption,..so dont criticize the movement..really upset seeing people like nandan and aruna roy really not understanding the situation
vickyRR 6 months ago
@dianaaugustine01: LOL. Totally agree with you. He can't reply coz he doesn't have a reply :D
rishina14 6 months ago
I totally agree with you. A country is not run by fasting and creating anarchy. It takes a lot more than that to govern the largest democracy in this world. Who doesn't want to end corruption? But, it is time to get real, realise our hypocrisy and act responsibly towards the nation we all claim to love!
rishina14 6 months ago
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rishina14 6 months ago
Did he say "... rice and weed..." at 7:20?
faiqrg 6 months ago
Who is the sponsor of annaa? As a nation it has rules ... and its also to anna.. As a nation India give over freedom to this type of people and media that makes problem to the growth of India.. annaaa.. will also fly soon like that kalla swami .. also now anna's drama is political and RSS is pling behind this.. Still all financial problems happens in all the world.. India did't affect its in a bigger way..its only due to a grate leader Manmohan sings great vision about nation...
vivekadolph 6 months ago
nandan nilekani has a point--individuals should be honest in their day to day dealings--give no bribe ,accept no bribe--apart from a good lok pal bill we also need strong moral appeal for citizens to be more patriotic in carrying out day to day duties--i write stories against corruption by middle rung employees--so a wider perspective is more important --one should work within existing democratic system to fight corruption
sehgalbhupinder 6 months ago 15
@sehgalbhupinder - Let me give u an example sir:
There is a city of 10000 people. It has 100 policemen and 20 criminals. We cannot say that let us try and change these 20 people and make them good. But the 100 policmen 'CAN' catch them & put them behind bars when they do something wrong.
The question is - when somebody does something wrong, why are they NOT getting caught? That is exactly why we need bills like the Jan Lokpal - to have stronger systems in catching these people.
whatever041085 4 months ago
@dianaaugustine01 - Sorry - I dont answer to people with phony names.
shubh11111 6 months ago
A congress puppet
project123456ful 6 months ago
Sensible, clear and forward looking Talk by Nandan..sure It will not resonate well with anarchy loving and non democratic folks..
vijayanrect 6 months ago 14
HE IS TOTALLY RIGHT.. ALL ARE AGANIST CORRUPTION.. BUT JUSY LOKPAL BILL WONT STOP CORRUPTION. PEOPLES HAVE LOTS OF EXPECTATIONS.. THAT WONT COME TO REALITY JUST BECAUSE OF LOKPAL..
neyyath 6 months ago 3
I beleive Mr. Nilekani is not following the movement properly...Anna and his team is talking about system change only...and jan lokpal bill is first step towards that...and if people who are managing the current set-up are corrupt and pushing people under them to do corruption then there is only solution to this problem...a revolution and that is what Anna and his team has done now...he may not agree with the movement but he and Anna's team demands are same..."A SYSTEM CHANGE IS REQUIRED"... :)
bhaweshdandona 6 months ago
what the hell... Get the UID and all the corruption related problem will be solved using technology. What a load of BULLSHIT... Nilekani sir your financial status itself tells that you dont have the slightest idea HOW the CORRUPTION starts and how it could be eradicated(/punishing the guilty). And to add Anna Hazare has seen this world more than you need.. If you want to tell people to get the UID's this is wrong way of Advertising.... So shut your trap.
86johnconnor 6 months ago
People who are leading the Janlokal are never said that their bill will eradicate 100% corruption.its just one of the things as Nandan said.i am asking you one thing nandan,do u think this UID project is going to stop some scam like 2G or CWG.what i feel is ,UID is basically for giving better service to the people and JanLokpal for making people accountable for what they have done
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mahesh3434 6 months ago
I'm sorry to say Mr. Nilekani, in simple words this interview totally ridiculous. Only stringent laws can curb corruption, and all your other ideas UID, automation etc.. can be even a success only after you eradicate corruption. So if you have 15 things that's fine this is the first one why are you against it? I did not expect this from a person whom i was respecting till this, go and learn from your friend Mr. NarayanaMurthy, who has put the thoughts of a common man in such a simplistic way...
smurug1305 6 months ago
Boooo... !! Boooo... !!
:p :p
sushfreedom 6 months ago
This guy is a big idiot who talks non-sense ! If passing a bill that has stringent provisions cannot make a step forward in nailing corruption, Can just giving a laminated plastic UID card and ration card eliminate corruption ! He is a complete idiot !
daytonboy77 6 months ago
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daytonboy77 6 months ago
He is out of touch with common man problems...just talking bat his project ...u r completely wrong mr.nilekani
DattaChandra 6 months ago
Dont understand him. He says Lokpal is needed among 15 other things but "doesn't understand why 'this' has reached such level'. Holistic, strategic?
We need 15 things, we'll get to it one at a time. Why do all 15 things have to be done together?
kgupte 6 months ago
glorifying UID? but there's a huge question mark ovr the authenticity and accuracy of the biometric techniques used for giving people UIDs, most of the developed countries who relied on these techniques hv abandoned them n termed them as waste of time n money. so, to me it just appears, it is another big scam to waste money on impractical projects (thousands of crores hv been spent alrdy), and later label them as inefficient and impractical and abandon after u hv deposited crores in yr account.
DrDevildoom 6 months ago
those who dont support Anna ... those are corrupt....simple !
rajphalke 6 months ago
Off-course Jan Lokpal Bill wont solve ALL the corruption... BUT at-least it will START the process! Even a 3 yr old would understand this logic..... ! I hope Everyone now says NO to corruption...Azzadi ki dusri ladhai :) Jai Hind!
nikkkkkiie 6 months ago
respect politicians
. bullshit
naughty15041988786 6 months ago
YOU are wrong wrong wrong. Noone of the other alternate ways can displace Janlokpal though they are highly complementary. NOBODY said Janlokpal will be one sufficient tool to STOP corruption, its you and media either misleading and not reading. Janlokpal is mandatory and also UID, TAGUP, RTI reform to help it improve it.
OzonProtector 6 months ago
3 TAGUP ideas are valuable and can prevent corruption in many areas by bypassing, BUT what teeth it has for big ticket corruption? Show how swan like equity dilution scam be investigated by TAGUP?
4 Last but not least, Corrupt Govt. can force your agency to add few lines of code to their benefit. How do you stop it? INITIATE investigation without Janlokpal?
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OzonProtector 6 months ago
Unfortunate and wrong statement by Nilekani. Want to ask him
1 Janlokpal has teeth, Can UID ever have teeth?
UID like RTI can assist probe by produce trace, and proof but how will you recover money? How will you punish the evil?
2 Can people have access to the analytic tools of your monitoring module? Janlokpal is directly controlled by the people. People can take grievience to Janlokpal even in third party case. Can we do it with UID?
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OzonProtector 6 months ago
Nandan also appears to be panic like the advocates in cabinet
Is this mere an expression of loyalty for the cabinet equivalent post
or something fishy behind the UID
sabin1961 6 months ago
who has told that this is a magic wand!!..yes we have so many process in ..and all knows what happens thanks to it -red tap-ism..excellent system of law making cleared 13 bills in a matter of hours..well thats a great statement! ...the system is not ready to argue the bill in public..its not ready to make the tapes come out in public..Give the benefit of doubt to a GOVT to broke law multiple times in a day!trust them; have you read their bill mr nilekeni?
kamalnathng 6 months ago
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Way to go Mr. Nilekani!! Thank God there's at least one sensible man in our country!!
This is what the chaps on the streets say, "I want my Government to be completely honest, and then i want it to leave me to my devices so that i can be corrupt, in whichever form i choose to be."
News Flash: The Indian Government is an alien race from the planet Zoltrag, and is exhibiting corrupt traits that are alien to the local populace. Argghh... must... revolt!
catwhiskers100 6 months ago
Mr. Nilekani, when presenting a bill (not like UID) to the standing committee, which is almost against the members of that committee.. then u need this type of a movement.. respect this movement for that at least, if not for anything more!
PinakiTube 6 months ago
who know he could be one of the corrupts....
mukherjeetabla 6 months ago 2
Oh BTW, Mr. Nandan himself answered the question for rolling in the Jan Lokpal Bill (is this correct?).
First he said: Politicians are extremely hard working and not all are corrupt, and his respect for Politicos have gone up! This statement is quite contradictory or just say there is half truth in it. I mean, I agree not ALL people/politicians/entities are corrupt but I can surely say that not less than 2/3rd are corruption. That's huge! That's why Indians need that JLP bill as a "Starter"
akula2shark 6 months ago
He said: "Why this (Anna's Movement) has reached to this level!" Mr. Nandan has clearly demonstrated that he's unfit for the UID project in the first place, let alone pondering on tacking the Corruption on multiple levels.
He once again proved himself wrong by asking: "Why do we need this agitation?"
Overall, his comments were quite average to be honest.
akula2shark 6 months ago
the protest is justified in my opinion, I am not convinced by Nilekani's argument on Lok Pal bill , if the campaign set by Hazare to enforce people's law is inane to root out corruption, then overall function of what-he-calls-right-system will never see the light of the day as well. His remarks at 9:10 about agitation and supporting statements about parliament confining to UID project is just outrageous in this context of civil society's struggle for anti-corruption.
Manojvarughese 6 months ago
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simar4ind 6 months ago
It is time to demand the ouster of people like Nilekani. Anna's protest doesn't need Nilekani's stamp of approval. Actually, Nandan and his UID are unjustified.
devinder55 6 months ago
This is government servant(sonia servant) Nandan Nilekani speaking under a lot pressure of his masters and his job!!!!
I sympathetic to his position!
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ram5438 6 months ago
Ofcourse UID can curb correction. UID will provide a large identity platform to government, to public sector, to private sector for efficient service delivery, and accountability systems can be built on top of the platform to ensure that no corrupt/fraudelent transaction goes unnoticed.
piyushpeshwani 6 months ago
nanden should settle in us and not in india.may be he is needed there more.
shalakka234 6 months ago
@sgopi71 who told you we haven't read the bills? If I say Yes we have full faith on the intent of all 500+ parliamentarians ... that will be the biggest lie.. no we don't have any faith in these politicians(atleast 90% of them are the amng most corrupt people) and that's why we are supporting the janlokpal bill
manuyd 6 months ago
Anyway this UID project is not his Idea, it was brought by the BJP when they were at the Center.
joiaaiasom 6 months ago
He is there to give us a tag in the name of National Identity Number. He feels threatened that he will be unable to sale the Data he will be collecting through the UID Project if the Jan Lokpal bill comes into force.
joiaaiasom 6 months ago
Anna has 16 youtube profiles.
aditya322 6 months ago
is he fighting the next election?
venkatram86 6 months ago
Excellent perspectives!
dipak4046 6 months ago
he is part of a corporate society and he makes more sense than the swamis and crusaders.
nikhilvb 6 months ago
Cool.. Sorted out. with @chromophore
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Now new battle - @MetrazolElectricity - Why do you think this is dictatorial? How many times have you voted since you were 18? Was that democratic. Please do excuse my language but honestly, we cant afford to be sluggish on judicial procedures anymore when we are growing population wise on a exploding rate! So please read read the jan lokpal bill once more and think how is a civil body dictatorial!
shubh11111 6 months ago
Illuminating. I've been ambivalent about this for awhile. Like any other citizen, I loathe corruption in India but vesting powers to challenge every high public office in the nation in one office is dictatorial. This nation-wide release of frustrations reminds me of the Weimar Germany and the rise of the Nazis. What we need is grossly limited government and an enlarged private sector, not a return to those unenlightened socialist days of the License Raj.In short, these protesters are simpletons
MetrazolElectricity 6 months ago
sgopi,
So you want everyone to trust Nandan's UID will do the magic. Also, looks like you are suggesting somehow to trust government and let alone politicians (fyi...at least 1/3 of the MPs in loksabha have criminal background).
I think everyone agrees that Lokpal bill is not the magic formula for the corruption. But, why not give it a try.
Also,I think everyone would agree that majority of Civil Society group has the background and experience to justify their involvement in initial draft.
chrtiru 6 months ago
@chrtiru the problem is precisely as u admitted u like Anna, bcoz u dislike politicians. And Anna being in the position he is in, after having presented his bill as the supreme document to eradicate 60% corruption (why 60%) in this country; doesnt want to now see reason bcoz what'll he tell his people. So go on fast, whether there's a specific objective or not. Anna has done great to bring the issue into foray & now should allow the State reasonable time & space to function. U cant coerce.
sgopi71 6 months ago
@sgopi71..You are missing the point...its not the question of me or all folks that are supporting the movement like anna or not. To begin with, the reason Anna started his fasting bcoz nothing that was proposed by Civil society made it into the government's lok pal bill. I'll give you a simple example:
chrtiru 6 months ago
@sgopi71..One of the feature is: Anyone complaining against a corrupt official if proved not guilty, the whistle-blower will be sentenced for 2 yrs in prison. But, if the corrupt official is proved to be guilty, he/she will be sentenced for ONLY 6 months..Does it make any sense...totally ridiculous.
Once again, everyone agrees what is proposed in Jan Lokpal bill is not perfect. But the 5 congress members of the drafting committee killed it before it can be discussed in parliament.
chrtiru 6 months ago
@chromophore I have heard him. These are my personal opinions.. I have made my point and you have done yours. All need corruption to end and bullshit to stop. If you feel Nandan is saying good and that will reduce corruption, sure yes. But UID is not the only way. Check RSBY.in website. There are a lot of schemes by govt which cant be just worked out because of this corruption. Jan lo0kpal or anything else for that matter is not complete in itself - it needs modifications but this is a start!
shubh11111 6 months ago
@shubh11111 Nobody says it is not a start. It is a start that we have a lot of hope in. But people should welcome all viewpoints. It is almost like if one takes a line slightly different than Anna they are being seen as corrupt or congress agents. Come on!
The lokpal bill should be made and passed. No doubt. But existing institutions need to be worked and improved too. It is dangerous also to take team anna on faith. It should not be bulldozed through.
chromophore 6 months ago
@shubh11111 Take one example: Of the supreme court. 20 years ago there was a minor change in the way judges were appointed. One single move in an existing institution has gone a long way. People now look at the supereme court with hope.
There are so many other bodies; The Election commission. One needs to look at the root of the problem. If the lokpal is bulldozed and something goes wrong, it will ensure that the change all want will be set back by many years. It will be a wrong precedent.
chromophore 6 months ago
All you guys who are blindly behind the Jan Lokpal Bill & who are swayed by simplistic presentations of the Bill by Mr. Kejriwal & Mr. Bhushan's, coated with all important patriotic anecdotes of Gandhi Topi & National Flag, are doing so without even really understanding the actual manifestations of the Bill. Take it from me in the next 15 days PM & higher judiciary will be out of Jan Lokpal Bill. All the energy & spirit will wean down on its own, when the details are actually deliberated.
sgopi71 6 months ago
@sgopi71 I AM ANNA ....i want to make a point to all you people AGAINST him. he has a great plan . even if PM & higher judiciary in preview of Lokpal is an unjustied point ,ANNA on the AGREEMENT TABLE with gov will give away to these 2 manifestations of his version of the bill in return of gov agreeing on other EFFECTIVE points of his version .
we all surely agree on the point that gov has no intention of making an effective bill then why not support anna ?
simar4ind 6 months ago
@simar4ind You are willing believe that 500+ Parliamentarian've a conspiratorial intent to debunk a good law. 5 guys can conspire/Plan or can make mistakes but not 500 Parliamentarians, with due research on the subject by the Standing Committee. How can u impute intent? C’mon guys y only Anna’s Bill is effective?Do u even know the number of versions of the Bill? Do u know how many guys like Anna, but who don’t bugle around r working on it. Pls read the Bill by NCPRI & get a perspective
sgopi71 6 months ago
surely CNN IBN has some new money in there accounts.........SHAME
simar4ind 6 months ago
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chromophore 6 months ago
I'm sure Civil Society never said: "my bill or no bill" and that is why they had discussions with Committee members from Congress. Search for youTube videos of Arvind Kejriwal's talk in IIT. You will see how the initial version of bill formed by just Civil Society members has evolved over time. Today only, everyone would have read how they are open for Judiciary in the bill.
With all due respect to Nandan, but when he says his respect for politicians has gone up in last 2 years, it laughable.
chrtiru 6 months ago
He isn't against corruption but is questioning the logic of fanatic support of Anna and a thought process that Anna Team's Jan LokPal bill can resolve everything. We are creating one more authority/police in a not so perfect system who will act post-facto. Anna seems to be basking in his moment of glory, with a stupid arrest and then a moronic release of Anna. No one is in favour of corruption, but one cannot say-“my bill or no bill”. Guys in this forum, emotions apart get to specifics & details
sgopi71 6 months ago
"Whatever bill they have in mind"... Wow it's amazing how he is trying to avoid answering a direct question.... over and over and over again.
abisen0 6 months ago
Problem 1) There is no recommendation given by him other than UID 2) UID cannot fight corruption. I stopped viewing this interview after 7 minutes since no specific betterment solution given.
venuindusm 6 months ago
you hate sagarika and her questions..thumbs up..!!
nyashodhar 6 months ago
I have utmost respect for Nandan. But its sad to see that corporate executives and businessman like Nandan are falling into the trap of politicians. Its shame when he says that politicians are hardworking and his respect for politicians have gone up.
chrtiru 6 months ago
So please for God's sake, to understand Anna, try to put urselves into his shoes or the shoes of the poor people supporting him. Assuming we don't have time to Join their protests/mission/share their problems, atleast we can just try to Imagine for a second, the kind of situation they have been facing throughout their struggling lives, and the ANGLE by which they are seeing this problem....
maninfosys2003 6 months ago
If I were to speak as an IT Engineer, certainly we wud never defend Anna or such likes. We r getting paid on Time, never had any interface with Babus/govt, evrything automated, even if vegetables r increasing in price, but we hardly notice the impact on our savings. We hardly notice environment pollution/Electricity outage/lack of drinking water, as evry facility is available to us 24/7 ...
maninfosys2003 6 months ago
No doubt Nandan is high profile Technology person, and he can see the problem only thru mindset of Technology / Automation. We need to also understand that he is having KEY position in Govt, where he has the rick of losing his position, if he speaks a single statement against Govt. He has also to ensure that he remains a Bread provider for Infy or other IT companies, by getting more n more such projects like UID...
maninfosys2003 6 months ago
Totally agree with you Mr Nilekani. there are enough laws already that can be strengthened. Bringing more policing just as you say will make the corrupt more vigilant. I truly believe we must as you say "automate" the system so that things are crystal "transparent". All these years the policing hasnt worke out, guess its time to try other means and methods to try out.... its more of as you say "old wine in a new bottle"
dynamicvinay 6 months ago
@bibinanto - Beg to differ. Nandan does not need publicity. UID needs! And Nandan took this current issue to put light on UID. And boss.. FINO is also doing lot of stuff in the RSBY area, that is also enabling bottom of pyramid customers - so please, lets brush up facts first and then comment. As far as i am concerned - i dont give comments in videos for the heck of doing it! I mean it when i do.
shubh11111 6 months ago
Being a congress supporter there's no surprise from nandan nilekeni's voice..
20vignesssh 6 months ago
This is a pitiful argument by nandan nilekeni. He says there should be software like aadhar which is 1900 crores. where a common man can do the work with technology..He sees for his business and not for the good of the people.He is a business men makes his business point of view
20vignesssh 6 months ago
Mr Nandan,
Try taking 15 steps at time instead of 1 step while you climb that floor. You and every body knows it can't be done.
swattig 6 months ago
Infosys is a manufacturing center that mass produces drones. It clones the drones and brainwashes them to slavishly serve up their clients. A by product of that culture is Nan-dan-Nil-e-kani. This genius of drones helms UID project. Tomorrow, a Bangladesh illegal will manage to get a fake UID with aid from the Pakisatani boot leg industry perfect that technology. Then this UID and Nilekani will become big time buffoons. SAgarika Ghose .. a communist, feudal, loud mouthed & twisted specied. Shame
premapuranam 6 months ago
Nilekani's views are absolutely right. I strongly agree with him. How the corruption is seen by the people, differs. Sagarika asked Nilekani that, should we not stop the big-ticket corruption? I would say, was that a question?
What is corruption, in today's India?
If we are afford to pay the bribe, we don't talk, we don't agitate, we just move on. If we are not afford to pay the bribe, we call it as "corruption"; Re.1 or Rs.1 crore, it's corruption! There is no such thing as big sin & small sin
bibinanto 6 months ago 2
What Nandan is talking about is the REAL issue. Note that he does not dismiss lokpal as people are saying below in comments. He is saying we need to use technology etc to improve the system as a whole. Listen to him carefully. Such a GREAT interview. Finally somebody is talking sense.
chromophore 6 months ago 2
Superb ... completely agree with him.
That's the difference between Agitators and Administrators.
Agitators think putting up Laws and Police will cure the system, where as able Administrators always try to cure the problem at the source so you don't need such expensive policing. That is what Nandan is talking about.
In Lean we have a concept of Pokayok, which is known as Mistake Proofing.
Serive delivery shd be strong, Lokpal bills r not "silver bullets" which will solve all the troubles.
Vik470 6 months ago 2
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santosh3311 6 months ago
@santosh3311 : at least learn to talk sensibly, even if you don't understand anything about Nandan's interview
bibinanto 6 months ago
@bibinanto I understood better than u. He is just trying to deny lokapal bill and trying to get publicity on work he is doing UID project, and thinks UID will solve corruption, it will not solve the corruption our ministers are doing like 2g, CWG etc....
santosh3311 6 months ago
(part2) I think its time to take the matter out of these so called 'leaders's' hands and its time to really start drinking from this kool-aid rather than just standing aside & talking about some technological solution
prasadkul80 6 months ago
Very unfortunate Mr. Nilekani.. With all due respect, you have got it all wrong.. Since when 'not being a perfect solution' is stopping you from even making an attempt to solve the issue.. thats true. because thats what exactly anna hazare is doing.. You can not criticize the attempt just because you don't think its not going to address the issue in its entirety.. After 65 years given to politicians to make effective laws and curb the corruption, if its not sufficient then (contd..)
prasadkul80 6 months ago
This is bad.. I never expected Nandan to keep coming back to UID project when the question is being asked about jan lokpal bill. This is just attempt to gain publicity. Say NO to something which millions are looking forward to and you gain mileage from this. Bad way. Not expected of Nandan!
Jan LOkpal bill I do agree might need many refinements till it is workable.. but it has to start from somewhere and here is it!! A man like Nandan should not just deny this to gain publicity for the UID
shubh11111 6 months ago 11
@shubh11111 : Do you think Nandan need any publicity?
If you think on a broader perspective, you will understand what he said!
bibinanto 6 months ago
@bibinanto He need not want publicity but he wants more projects for his company ..don't you feel that!!!!!!!
20vignesssh 6 months ago
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chromophore 6 months ago
Mr. Nandan Nilekani, This is not a fixed price software project where you will be given a fixed amount of time to do requirement analysis and then execute the project. You may be expert in your own profession but failed miserably when giving advice on anticorruption protest. If you think there is better way of doing things then please come out of your air conditioned office and start the protest in your own sweet way.
mailsraut 6 months ago
@shubh11111 wat do you mean by saying he is looking for publicity for UID project... Do you think UID project is some talent show for which you need to a publicity stunt... go read about UID before making such nonsensical comments...
dianaaugustine01 6 months ago 3
@shubh11111 Its the news anchor..I wont be surprised if the interview has been terribly edited..notice how she tries to put words in his mouth..The channel is well known to have biased views n news
anex16 6 months ago 2
Mr Nandan should understand that jan lok pal bill is one step to his broad views. Jan lok pal bill cannot eradicate corruption all together but it's a step to the eradication of it.
rinchenkumar 6 months ago
After all this Corruption, Corrupt politicians cannot be justified and spared by saying there is also good politicians and there exsit excellent standing committee. All tools aganist Corruption should be incorporated jan lok pal bill, technology, etc. It is not possible to have all tools in one shot. Its a step by step procedure. As per now first step!! jan lok pal bill and which will encourge the good and reduce bad.
rinchenkumar 6 months ago
Need to think what he says UID can only cost the country as how successful they can be in terms of people getting their rights? Does he really know what corruption mean as he might be another person in the system, Jan Lokpal bill will only scare the politicians to take bribe? UID costs the common man what about the money in SWISS BANKS!!! kindly work on that rather than this stupid thing. Plz educate your self dont copy the west for SSN with UID.
enigmaits 6 months ago
Nandan keep talking about UID project. How an UID alone will solve the corruptions the MPs, MLAs and government officials doing. He is trying to get attention for the work he is doing. Shame on you...
TheSaravCh 6 months ago
PART2: audacity to ask bribe....while ur UID will simplify the so called interactions to a minimum.
krystalgraphics 6 months ago
PART1: being from same alma matter as you mr nilekani, i feel proud....but in this context your strategic concept of UID to curb corruption seems to going over my head.....may be the same reason why ur idea could not buy the public support as compared to Anna's Jan lokpal. At this moment, if i have to pay bribe to get my driving license how can u assure getting the UID will be a hassle free process?? So as a common man i believe we need a stronger Lokpal bill so as no official will ever have an
krystalgraphics 6 months ago
nevermind !!!
tarooon9900 6 months ago