@Fm4TeamHondaRacing smh .. its just not about hp..there are many variables & materials that come into play...i think you lack a little knowledge when it comes the 4age its not the biggest power producer from factory but its a very well built durable engine..84-95 that can made many variations 4age-9age and still used today in many racing applications you cant say the same about honda motors from that era...and the 4age still gives an ass whipping to most new motors : )
@ae86driftmaster yeah i gess i was being a bit fanboy, there all good cars diff designs, but im not going to lie i belive in my opinion that the vtec designs is the most incredible
@Fm4TeamHondaRacing honda started to step up their game in the mid 90's and have done well....the honda vtec is a good design but every motor has its pros and cons ..here is my project i been working on. copy paste "4agze supercharged build ...(ae86, trueno, levin, hachiroku, corolla gts / sr5 ハチロク)"
Of the words and phrases I did understand (and because I don't speak Japanese there were few) I believe that the only one I truly needed to hear was "Haiyaku".
hey any one answer a question for me...? i dont want to sound like a dope but is there any diff between v-tec and vti and if there is which is better??
Actually the three systems perform the same job, the method used is different. Anyway this video is inaccurate in describing + comparing the three systems as to know which one is THE BEST you would need the three different mechanisms (I-VTEC,VVT-I,MIVEC) built into the same head with same intake systems and same bottom end. You cant compare one mechanism in three different engines with three different set of parts, compression ratios & displacement and assume it to be a fair test.
fuck this japanese shit and get some v8s. a stock v8 can beat a stock vtec any day. small engines have no torque either so you have to rev them loads to get any power.
@henry51563 The only reason V8's make power is becuase of how many cylinders they have and the HUGE displacement. It's truly amazing engineering when you can get 200+ horsepower out of a 4 cylinder with probably a third of the displacement.
@henry51563 actually a stock crx with a b16a with y1 trans will do low 15's high 14's in a quarter mile on street tires. while a stock 5.0 mustang will do 14.5-15 second runs..
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mivec doesn't work like this anymore. they have a hydrolic oil line that rotates the cam's sprocket and can retard or advance valve opening and closing. its nothing like vtec. it only changes the time they open and close, it doesn't increase the duration they stay open
@TheForza1000 You can't use wikpedia as a source, there's a high chance of false information existing on millions of wiki pages. It's be ause really anyone can say anything there. Justin Bieber's page said he was a gay porn star until it was fixed. (lol)
@TheForza1000 i think I found a big gay here. Italian cars are crap, for formula 1 are good, but the street is very expensive. That you got a fiat? hahaha you're too stupid and ignorant besides
@FEGTTTSDH ; YOU DUMB UNEDUCATED TURD, YOU COULDN'T AFFORD A CAR THATS WHY YOU HAVE A PEDAL BIKE, YOU LIVE IN A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY...seen your profile lol#
NOW IF YOU HAD A BRAIN CELL TO WORK WITH YOU WOULD REALISE A CBR IS NOT A CAR.
I AM TEELING THE FACT THAT ALFA ROMEO WERE THE FIRST CAR MAKER IN THE WORLD TO BRING
VARIABLE VALVE TIMING TO PRODUCTION CARS, LIKE THEY WERE THE FIRST TO INVENT SPORTING FAMILY CARS...GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT OR CHECK WIKI BEFORE POSTING THE BILE OF A 3 YEAR OLD.
the system is the same for cars to motorcycles. The twin spark system is based on the use of dual spark plugs per cylinder and do not know which is older vtec but the system is much more reliable than the twin spark, which are engines with many problems and the drive should be replaced 60000km.
@TheForza1000 second part: The VTEC system is much better in every way and also alpha in the era of 90 never got the Civic VTEC achieving a DOHC I was getting a 160hp 1600cc engine. Today it is still not exceeded the horsepower per liter without a turbo
IT IS A FACT THAT JAPANESE PEOPLE COPY THINGS OUT BUT ON THE SAME WAY THEY DEVELOP THEM TO MAKE THEM BETTER ESPECIALLY IF COMBIMED WITH ELECTRONICS WHICH THEY DOMINATE THE WORLD WITH
Makes a change to get a sensible comment back when posting the facts, most users seem to make up whatever they want to believe and then retaliate again and again.
Like you say its not that important who came up with the idea first.
@sirvtecdohc ; WRONG...Alfa Romeo were the first to use VVT in mass production cars, it was a few years before the Japanese copied (as usual) this European technology...search google before posting utter BS.
@TheForza1000 The Japanese don't directly copy the system. They make variations of their own. Do you actually think the euro car companies would let them directly copy their system, without taking legal action? imo, its not all about who comes out with the technology first, its who is successful at making it work. Ex: the space age race between USA and Russia.
@TheForza1000 Japanese didn't copy from Europeans.. VTEC is completely different from other VVT engines.. And do you think in 1980's, Alfa Romeo was mass produced in japan and copied their technology?? And one other thing.. Alfa Romeo did not succeed in the mass production of their VVT technology.. Honda did.. Honda sold more than 50 million VTEC systems over the years.. That's why I don't know Alfa Romeo came up with the idea first.. THINK before you POST you faggot..
@sirvtecdohc ; Check your facts, Wikipedia Alfa romeo the first mass produced cars to feature VVT and 3 years later Honda introduced a very similar system Vtec....Honda are not the pioneers you like to dream they are...they used to produce cars soley for oaps before the type R...Soppy Redneck
@TheForza1000 yeah i commented to set you straight cause obviously you don't have a clue about engines cause honda have one of the best engines in the world :)
@TheForza1000 if you don't live in Ireland why does your profile say you do, you should not deceive people like that.
actually i drive a Mitsubishi pajero and we have 4 more Mitsubishis and they havent broken down not even once. obviously what im posting is upsetting u cause your swearing so ill be the mature one and stop posting so u dont cry lol.
my cousin in england used to have a landrover but it broke down and then she got a shogun 2003 model and she hasent had nothing wrong with it since, and here i c loads of old pajeros still running from 1980s and we have a 1998 galant and nothing has gone wrong with it only ofcourse brake pads and other minor stuff but my pajero is 2010 swb n its great for a girl who doesnt need the big lwb.
in kuwait fuel is cheap and actually my pajero does 13.2l/100km
@TheForza1000 Do you think Japanese "ALWAYS" copy? Are you thinking?? Japanese have their own originality too you fucking asshole.. You dont know anything about cars you retard dumb faggot.. You always depend on ur fucking google thing shit..
@somenutjob thanx my friend! generally, i prefer civic and vtec but i just search for more info. (also i did a wrong and i voted against............. ppff..........)
@Q8ROTORY It all depends on how the MIVEC is set up. Remember that MIVEC/VTEC are just names for variable valve timing. It doesn't automatically mean full high-revving engine. Only toyota makes a distinction between VVT-I (Variable Valve Time Intelligence and VVTL-I (Variable valve Time Lift Intelligence) by adding L in.
I dont speak this language..but the number speak for themselves. 4age is 10% lighter than the others and has 90% of the compression ratio of mivec and a BETTER ratio than vtec. 4age is the clear choice for me. Mivec has some impressive figures, just a bit hefty for me :)
i wish i was japanese just so i would know what, jungowjin kwanzomantra v-tec holungra mivec alsingrindomoto vvt musimozototo corino bototo frando TOYOTAsongo is BESTorito spongino soniruting fandimigowronno CHIPOLTEson TASTESwoozinger BESTorito kanna mingowon janja, would mean....
I own Toyotas and I know Honda does the Variable valve thing better than most :) They pioneered it and continue to dominate with fuel efficency and strong power to displacement figures. Just stronger better built engines. Also Mitsubishi's are rubbish, always needing repairs and I talk from experience on that one ( I only owned 4 Mitsi's) Their electrics are the main issue, so buggy and gremlin like. Also very dated looks.
@Descente36 I've not only heard of it mate, I've owned one! I had a 1990 VX-S Galant with a high compression 4G63. It wasn't the engine that was problematic, it was the rest of the car, the electrics, the sundries and accessories. Plus it was pretty heavy and the handling was a bit to be desired. I do believe the Evos and GSRs are excellent cars, but even then still expensive to fix.... still much rather a Mitsi than a Subaru even then.
My '00 Celica GT-S has Yamaha stamped on the block (passenger side) so I would believe so. Might also explain why it redlines @ 8K RPM since Yamaha deals with motorcycle engines.
@EthansOpinion92 actually mitsubishis engines are powerful and reliable and they have the first ever diesle engine in a car with variable valve timing so dont diss mitsu :)
@TheForza1000 cause in Ireland u have a cool climate that any stupid car can handle like alfa romeo and range rover and BMW but if u bring them to Kuwait with 55 c they wont stand a chance the only cars that can handle the heat r mitsubishis and toyotas and Subarus and hondas.
what u dont understand about any technology is that i doesnt matter who does it first what matters is that its been perfected properly before its done and thats why Euro and american cars arent reliable in our country :)
@releasetaiwan Why can't we both be on the same side as car enthusiasts? I personally prefer and drive American, but why does it have to be Germany and Japan vs. America? Why can't it be fast car vs. fast car? Regardless of a v8, v10, v6, I4, I6
@ForlornDespair i think its the culture in the approach to designing and building a sports engine/car. American cars tend to be bigger cc, larger weight...its like using a 4ft sword for keyhole surgery. A well balanced, purpouse built tool VS a not so well refined hammer. Mcdonalds VS 5 star cuisine...there both food..but they aint thot of the same way!! personally id never purchase an american car sad to say isnt it?
@Imreadingthisaloud Ehh I think its more like the difference between big and strong and small and precise. they both get the job done, i think the old pushrod v8s are the best personally. I may never own a foreign car but ya never knw
@ForlornDespair ur entitled to your opinion, and i respect that. Personally id rather have something that performs as best it can, right on the limit. I see the american V8s as unrefined...maybe its my cultural back ground, but thats another debate!! :) we've all got choices on our vehicular transport, enjoy wotever u drive!
@ForlornDespair as much as the american V8s have potential, they arent using it, and that wud eliminate the 'strength' of the lazy engine. Its just a different approach! like i said its everybodys personal choice. Mercedes currently make the best off the shelf V8 with a little help from AMG. Thats not potential, thats quality, precision and proper technical engineering, i c the american V8s as a erm..farm yard engineering. It does the job, it will last a long time, but its lazy
@Imreadingthisaloud Ehhh that holds true with the american v8s of the 80s. But not now, with the corvette pushing 500+horse stock, you got the new camaros with 415 stock horses AND 24 mpg. you have the ford GT with the fastest v8 on the planet, obv not top speed but accel in a production car. idk man ill admit the v8's like the IROC are terrible and you barely get anything out of it, but the new ones are well engineered. the only diff between american v8s and euro v8s is firing order as well
@ForlornDespair ok so the fords forced induction, so is the vette(LS9). A like for like 6.2/6.3L V8 would be the LS3 i think, making 401 BHP. AMG 6.3 makes 571bhp. look at BMWs new M3, 4L...420bhp, thats as much as the LS7 which is 7L! There moving in the right direction, thats for sure! Im not dissing what those engines do, its rare to find a ferrari running after 10 years lol, ul find alot of old fords, chevvy, dodge, oldsmobiles...all these things still running around, just different leagues
@Imreadingthisaloud Ya its just due to a smaller engine, diff firing order, and capability of higher rpm's. i think thats legit. But at the same time the corvette looks a lot sicker and is pulling 638hp (zr1). idk where you got 401 my camaro has more hp than that! yes it is supercharged but at 638hp with better track times, 0-60, and 1/4 mile. granted it is more expensive but still impressive.
@ForlornDespair i dont see the firing order being of any relavence to power output, its still 8 bangs per crank rotation. so tell me again about how displacement works to power? Displacement VS Displacement the american V8s are not on par..im sorry man in the power output. as for your track times and 0-60, thats an engine paired with a chasis, and thats another thing all together...wud u like to compare euro chasis to american?
@ForlornDespair listen my origional comment wasnt saying america V8s were useless, they have their use, they get u around and will do for a long time. You admitted yourself they dont have the capability for high RPMs, nor do they make the best use of the larger engine. Like the song to that awful 80s show, different strokes for different folks!
@Imreadingthisaloud euro v8's fire 2 pistons at a time i believe? and i knw im nt saying that your saying that lol. but the corvette zr1 has better nuremburg times than the bugatti vehron. you say ya thats an engine with a chassis to it but isnt that a car? =P
@ForlornDespair any V8 iv ever worked on has never had a duplex firing sequence, my comment, was on engines..not chasis. ur deviating from the origional debate. A lap time like ur bringing up now is made up from 2 mechanical factors in the car, chasis and engine. so eradicate the lap times for a second, and agree that the euro V8s are better because they produce more power per cylinder capacity than the american counter parts? then u can argue about lap times on nordshleife
@ForlornDespair my comment wasnt of cost effectiveness. But u have a point for US cars being sold in the US. Here it would cost me the price of an M3 for a mustang. I cant comment on USDM price comparison. But u admit that euro V8s are superior? thank you! so do u think an american car has a better chasis than a european purpose built one? or shal we just leave it? leave it me thinks :D cos we know the answer ;) enjoy ur Z28
@releasetaiwan I drive a z06 and i gotta say, technology wise, your exactly right. My C5 Z06 has more HP per litre than any C6 engine, except the ZR1 which is forced induction. Supposedly the new C7 is suppose to have a 3.0-3.3L turbocharged V8 with 9k RPM and 440-470hp. Somehow I doubt GM will make that.. Too good to be true.. Anyways, I love corvettes but its funny how little faith I have in them when it comes to engine efficiency that german cars have had for decades...
apparently MIVEC rules..which I already knew since I own a Ralliart and stomp hondas and toyotas all the time...don't have to rev it to 9k rpm to get it to move..more tq than both honda and toy of same class...
@Pre00 Yeah, but Toyota and Honda surpassed mitsubishi in style, reliability, ect. Hondas vtec has proven itsself many times over. The system is like 21 years old now. And Honda got it right. But, Toyota has VVT-i down too.
i will translate...he is saying our jap cars are made from used coffee cans and melted down condoms and our engines are clones from briggs and stratton engines with a few extra cylinders added, they run on rat piss and rice squeezing's and for a mere 25,000$ you can get up to 105hp and 35ftlbs of torque to spin these massive 12'' plastic tires
@RXHardstyle maybe in the future. but honda R18, probably K20 too, got i-vtec and variable geometry intake manifold. two big advances in one engine. cheers.
@RXHardstyle auto skool and google. valvatronic uses a big solenoid thats mounted over the cams and it is VERY hard to turn by hand. it works just like v tec but more accurately and efficiently the solenoid is able to change valve lift when neccessary unlike v tec using only rpms, valvetronic can engage whenever.
MIVEC= 3 stage valve train VTEC= 2 stage valve train. I love the older mitsu 2.4 MIVEC on ralliart
NITECOREPD 7 hours ago
in plain English......4age for the win! lol
ae86driftmaster 4 days ago
@ae86driftmaster wtf 4 age is the crappest of them all, Vtec wins, its original, it produces to most hp and the its mivic the shit age
Fm4TeamHondaRacing 1 day ago
@Fm4TeamHondaRacing smh .. its just not about hp..there are many variables & materials that come into play...i think you lack a little knowledge when it comes the 4age its not the biggest power producer from factory but its a very well built durable engine..84-95 that can made many variations 4age-9age and still used today in many racing applications you cant say the same about honda motors from that era...and the 4age still gives an ass whipping to most new motors : )
ae86driftmaster 19 hours ago
@ae86driftmaster yeah i gess i was being a bit fanboy, there all good cars diff designs, but im not going to lie i belive in my opinion that the vtec designs is the most incredible
Fm4TeamHondaRacing 15 hours ago
@Fm4TeamHondaRacing honda started to step up their game in the mid 90's and have done well....the honda vtec is a good design but every motor has its pros and cons ..here is my project i been working on. copy paste "4agze supercharged build ...(ae86, trueno, levin, hachiroku, corolla gts / sr5 ハチロク)"
ae86driftmaster 53 minutes ago
Lol.it's a Samuel L Jackson Quote
52022 2 weeks ago
Subtitles please.
U3erpru7ser 2 weeks ago
Of the words and phrases I did understand (and because I don't speak Japanese there were few) I believe that the only one I truly needed to hear was "Haiyaku".
BrianOfAteionas 3 weeks ago 2
@BrianOfAteionas And he was talking about Mitsubishi when I heard it lol. It seems we both know what it means lol.
TriggaC74 1 week ago
English muthafucka Can You Speak It!
52022 3 weeks ago 3
@52022 what!!!
wazzachandler 2 weeks ago
FIAT multi-air is the shit! this is old stuff!
ollonsvin 1 month ago
say what can you repeat it in english
supra8065 1 month ago
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hey any one answer a question for me...? i dont want to sound like a dope but is there any diff between v-tec and vti and if there is which is better??
JAYOcarlow 1 month ago
Actually the three systems perform the same job, the method used is different. Anyway this video is inaccurate in describing + comparing the three systems as to know which one is THE BEST you would need the three different mechanisms (I-VTEC,VVT-I,MIVEC) built into the same head with same intake systems and same bottom end. You cant compare one mechanism in three different engines with three different set of parts, compression ratios & displacement and assume it to be a fair test.
chaos0wnage 1 month ago
Yes, i understood everything
invalid991 1 month ago 2
fuck this japanese shit and get some v8s. a stock v8 can beat a stock vtec any day. small engines have no torque either so you have to rev them loads to get any power.
henry51563 2 months ago
@henry51563 you cant compare a 4 cylinder to a v8 retard
Dragonpops 2 months ago
@henry51563 hahaha you dumb fuck how can you compare a stock 4 banger to a v8? you make no sense
AmazingSuperStar1 1 month ago
@henry51563 The only reason V8's make power is becuase of how many cylinders they have and the HUGE displacement. It's truly amazing engineering when you can get 200+ horsepower out of a 4 cylinder with probably a third of the displacement.
Nic0ya4Ever 1 month ago 2
@henry51563 V8 wasted so much fuel and it's go'n to run out of this planet.
Sgetzter 1 month ago
@henry51563 actually a stock crx with a b16a with y1 trans will do low 15's high 14's in a quarter mile on street tires. while a stock 5.0 mustang will do 14.5-15 second runs..
flyingdegu92 4 weeks ago
english please :(
chaseedmon 2 months ago
konishiwa
nachh0 2 months ago
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jefaldaud 2 months ago
i enjoy the constant tourqe of my vvti
benkerr69 2 months ago
In English Please.
AAHH01 2 months ago
um what?
mjndblain 2 months ago
Twin spark is nothing like vtec. B16b 1.6 over 180 bhp. Amazing.
Jdclapp83 3 months ago
mivec doesn't work like this anymore. they have a hydrolic oil line that rotates the cam's sprocket and can retard or advance valve opening and closing. its nothing like vtec. it only changes the time they open and close, it doesn't increase the duration they stay open
moham7ad 4 months ago
1:16 is it only me or does it look like like a robots head? 1:25 faces here again
draconpost 4 months ago
@TheForza1000 You can't use wikpedia as a source, there's a high chance of false information existing on millions of wiki pages. It's be ause really anyone can say anything there. Justin Bieber's page said he was a gay porn star until it was fixed. (lol)
KenwoodGT 4 months ago
Honda was first and is the best!
MrWislak1906 4 months ago
HONDA THE DULL BRAND WHO PRODUCE THE UGLY CIVIC WERE BEATEN BY 3 YEARS WITH VVT BY A CARISMATIC STYLISH ALFA ROMEO...FACT
just a google away.
TheForza1000 4 months ago
I own a few mint Alfa romeo's not fiats MR FAG TTSDH.
TheForza1000 4 months ago
VVT INVENTED BY THE ITALIANS AND COPIED BY THE JAPANESE AS USUAL.
TheForza1000 5 months ago
@TheForza1000 hahah you are a asshole the Vtec is the first system invented in 1983 with the CBR 400
FEGTTTSDH 4 months ago
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TheForza1000 4 months ago
@TheForza1000 i think I found a big gay here. Italian cars are crap, for formula 1 are good, but the street is very expensive. That you got a fiat? hahaha you're too stupid and ignorant besides
FEGTTTSDH 4 months ago
@FEGTTTSDH ; YOU DUMB UNEDUCATED TURD, YOU COULDN'T AFFORD A CAR THATS WHY YOU HAVE A PEDAL BIKE, YOU LIVE IN A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY...seen your profile lol#
NOW IF YOU HAD A BRAIN CELL TO WORK WITH YOU WOULD REALISE A CBR IS NOT A CAR.
I AM TEELING THE FACT THAT ALFA ROMEO WERE THE FIRST CAR MAKER IN THE WORLD TO BRING
VARIABLE VALVE TIMING TO PRODUCTION CARS, LIKE THEY WERE THE FIRST TO INVENT SPORTING FAMILY CARS...GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT OR CHECK WIKI BEFORE POSTING THE BILE OF A 3 YEAR OLD.
TheForza1000 4 months ago
the system is the same for cars to motorcycles. The twin spark system is based on the use of dual spark plugs per cylinder and do not know which is older vtec but the system is much more reliable than the twin spark, which are engines with many problems and the drive should be replaced 60000km.
FEGTTTSDH 4 months ago
@TheForza1000 second part: The VTEC system is much better in every way and also alpha in the era of 90 never got the Civic VTEC achieving a DOHC I was getting a 160hp 1600cc engine. Today it is still not exceeded the horsepower per liter without a turbo
FEGTTTSDH 4 months ago
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TheForza1000 4 months ago
@TheForza1000 your mom cry for me hahah kid
FEGTTTSDH 4 months ago
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TheForza1000 4 months ago
ENGWISH DOES YOU SPWEAK IT
cj94zj92sc 6 months ago
what fking language is that? how can people ever understand?
rajithaify 6 months ago
i don't know what japanese people said btw between mivec, vtec, which is better and faster ???
akensiv95 6 months ago
IT IS A FACT THAT JAPANESE PEOPLE COPY THINGS OUT BUT ON THE SAME WAY THEY DEVELOP THEM TO MAKE THEM BETTER ESPECIALLY IF COMBIMED WITH ELECTRONICS WHICH THEY DOMINATE THE WORLD WITH
muayyadf1 6 months ago
Makes a change to get a sensible comment back when posting the facts, most users seem to make up whatever they want to believe and then retaliate again and again.
Like you say its not that important who came up with the idea first.
TheForza1000 6 months ago
In a few years time when the Japanese adopt Fiats Multiair technology we will have people posting that the Japanese invented it first...utter bs.
TheForza1000 6 months ago
Wikipedia and see Alfa Romeo fisrt to use VVT in 1980, clearly it states Honda followed suit in 1983 with Vtec.....(mass production cars).
TheForza1000 6 months ago
HONDA was the first company to release a variable valve timing engine.. VVT and MIVEC came from the ideas of VTEC.. =D
sirvtecdohc 6 months ago
@sirvtecdohc ; WRONG...Alfa Romeo were the first to use VVT in mass production cars, it was a few years before the Japanese copied (as usual) this European technology...search google before posting utter BS.
TheForza1000 6 months ago
@TheForza1000 The Japanese don't directly copy the system. They make variations of their own. Do you actually think the euro car companies would let them directly copy their system, without taking legal action? imo, its not all about who comes out with the technology first, its who is successful at making it work. Ex: the space age race between USA and Russia.
ImportDreams500 6 months ago
@TheForza1000 Japanese didn't copy from Europeans.. VTEC is completely different from other VVT engines.. And do you think in 1980's, Alfa Romeo was mass produced in japan and copied their technology?? And one other thing.. Alfa Romeo did not succeed in the mass production of their VVT technology.. Honda did.. Honda sold more than 50 million VTEC systems over the years.. That's why I don't know Alfa Romeo came up with the idea first.. THINK before you POST you faggot..
sirvtecdohc 6 months ago
@sirvtecdohc ; Check your facts, Wikipedia Alfa romeo the first mass produced cars to feature VVT and 3 years later Honda introduced a very similar system Vtec....Honda are not the pioneers you like to dream they are...they used to produce cars soley for oaps before the type R...Soppy Redneck
TheForza1000 6 months ago
@TheForza1000 yeah but which one is more reliable :)
nobody cares who did what first since the japanese brought out there cars people understood what the word reliability really means :)
boyishiyah 6 months ago
@boyishiyah ; Well you obviously care enought to comment.
TheForza1000 6 months ago
@TheForza1000 yeah i commented to set you straight cause obviously you don't have a clue about engines cause honda have one of the best engines in the world :)
boyishiyah 6 months ago
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TheForza1000 6 months ago
@TheForza1000 if you don't live in Ireland why does your profile say you do, you should not deceive people like that.
actually i drive a Mitsubishi pajero and we have 4 more Mitsubishis and they havent broken down not even once. obviously what im posting is upsetting u cause your swearing so ill be the mature one and stop posting so u dont cry lol.
boyishiyah 6 months ago
@boyishiyah ; I had a Mitsubishi shogun and it did 15 mpg and rusted within 5 years, its now scrapped..
TheForza1000 6 months ago
@TheForza1000 what do you mean it rusted ?
my cousin in england used to have a landrover but it broke down and then she got a shogun 2003 model and she hasent had nothing wrong with it since, and here i c loads of old pajeros still running from 1980s and we have a 1998 galant and nothing has gone wrong with it only ofcourse brake pads and other minor stuff but my pajero is 2010 swb n its great for a girl who doesnt need the big lwb.
in kuwait fuel is cheap and actually my pajero does 13.2l/100km
boyishiyah 6 months ago
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TheForza1000 6 months ago
@TheForza1000 i used to live in the uk u c my mums English and my dads kuwaity now i live in kuwait.
boyishiyah 6 months ago
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TheForza1000 6 months ago
@TheForza1000 r u stupid or something i told u i live in kuwait do u even know where that is?
well its obious that ur either lying or u dont take car of ur car cause ur the only one iv heard this from.
sorry but uv got a serious problem, im not gonna reply to ur next post cya.
boyishiyah 6 months ago
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TheForza1000 6 months ago
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TheForza1000 6 months ago
@TheForza1000 Do you think Japanese "ALWAYS" copy? Are you thinking?? Japanese have their own originality too you fucking asshole.. You dont know anything about cars you retard dumb faggot.. You always depend on ur fucking google thing shit..
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TheForza1000 6 months ago
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TheForza1000 6 months ago
vtec is a best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!VTEC 4EVER
piratahonda 6 months ago
Those americans buy only V8 cars, poor MPG and heavy
they just don't wanna stop it
They're helping a lot to end quickly with the oil natural reserves...
vnmgyn 6 months ago
If I had enough money for gas, i'd take a 7 liter ls9, if not a Honda
barthoedemaker 7 months ago
i couldn't understand shit
MrMrmarji 7 months ago
Neat, but subtitles would've been nice...
SgtoSousuke 7 months ago
im doing a serious research but damn i dont understand a shit ........ translation please T_T
DKRaFiQ 8 months ago
very clear !!! =0
bocoth 8 months ago
So, wich engine is better??
...a VTI or a 4AGE...??
I'm going to buy car and i am between a Civic VTI and a Corolla G6 4AGE...... some help please!
gianniskrs 8 months ago
@gianniskrs 4age has no variable valve timing whatsoever
take the civic IMO
somenutjob 8 months ago
@somenutjob thanx my friend! generally, i prefer civic and vtec but i just search for more info. (also i did a wrong and i voted against............. ppff..........)
gianniskrs 8 months ago
@somenutjob
yes it does... look up the altezza's......
mertechperformance 7 months ago
MIVEC sucks..whats the use of it since u have 6k? unlike the VTEC u can have it on most hondas at 9k
sadley though i own a lancer :(
Q8ROTORY 8 months ago
@Q8ROTORY It all depends on how the MIVEC is set up. Remember that MIVEC/VTEC are just names for variable valve timing. It doesn't automatically mean full high-revving engine. Only toyota makes a distinction between VVT-I (Variable Valve Time Intelligence and VVTL-I (Variable valve Time Lift Intelligence) by adding L in.
Spetsnazovets 7 months ago
im a everfart guy my self it never lets me down
dustingraymcdaniels 8 months ago
wtf its even in jap?theres americans over here that need to understand how thier gfs car works..:)
rockstar6901 8 months ago
the only problem with this video is that it doesn't have a subtitle... can't understand japanese!
superelli2007 8 months ago
Subtitles wouldve been nice
boysvandehood 8 months ago
ahhhh ok!
yahlady15 8 months ago in playlist video engine
Haha, but electromagnetic valves is the best for ever! because timming open close valve is programable
mirrco1 8 months ago
is there an english translation of this video?
JDMCK4A 9 months ago
so MIVEC better than VTEC?
hazyazn 10 months ago
@hazyazn according to video, yes
Dosalt 10 months ago
how do you say "WTF" In Japanese????
thepricylon 10 months ago 32
@thepricylon 一体なに？
huzairrrrrrrrrr 4 months ago
so des ne
IronGumby 10 months ago
Lexus make proper DOHC VVT V8s already and GM use variable cam timing on teh LS2 but its a bit crap since its only got one cam
crapweed 11 months ago
So if they wanted to, could they do a V8 vtech?
ICM0n3y 11 months ago
I dont speak this language..but the number speak for themselves. 4age is 10% lighter than the others and has 90% of the compression ratio of mivec and a BETTER ratio than vtec. 4age is the clear choice for me. Mivec has some impressive figures, just a bit hefty for me :)
Imreadingthisaloud 11 months ago
Toyota vvt-I gotta love it
KyleKatastrofee 11 months ago
@KyleKatastrofee not when you can't vary the duration or lift.
Samqdf 11 months ago
Vtec sucks
Infinitrium 11 months ago
What about Vauxhall's ECOTEC????
utoobsucks100 11 months ago
yay for vid, nay for no english subs, I could still understand vtec a lot better than other vids though
xXxDANMANxXx 11 months ago
zzzz....at least put a subtitle...if don want to share, y upload dis vid...
xerousha 11 months ago
i wish i was japanese just so i would know what, jungowjin kwanzomantra v-tec holungra mivec alsingrindomoto vvt musimozototo corino bototo frando TOYOTAsongo is BESTorito spongino soniruting fandimigowronno CHIPOLTEson TASTESwoozinger BESTorito kanna mingowon janja, would mean....
EthansOpinion92 1 year ago
japans are the best :D vtec
stonix1992 1 year ago
is this a joke! english
Gtbomb 1 year ago
....... dslghn;jkvbudisfbndgolkjsdfbvofdihvjbfiuvbgrjngvipfdaopbvsld;javbvdsab? thats all i heard
RacerDude96 1 year ago
I own Toyotas and I know Honda does the Variable valve thing better than most :) They pioneered it and continue to dominate with fuel efficency and strong power to displacement figures. Just stronger better built engines. Also Mitsubishi's are rubbish, always needing repairs and I talk from experience on that one ( I only owned 4 Mitsi's) Their electrics are the main issue, so buggy and gremlin like. Also very dated looks.
dblancer 1 year ago
@dblancer apparently, you've never heard of the 4G63 motor
Descente36 1 year ago
@Descente36 I've not only heard of it mate, I've owned one! I had a 1990 VX-S Galant with a high compression 4G63. It wasn't the engine that was problematic, it was the rest of the car, the electrics, the sundries and accessories. Plus it was pretty heavy and the handling was a bit to be desired. I do believe the Evos and GSRs are excellent cars, but even then still expensive to fix.... still much rather a Mitsi than a Subaru even then.
dblancer 1 year ago
@dblancer im all about toyota man, very underated engines too, like handa to, but fuckin mitso does suck ass.
EthansOpinion92 1 year ago 3
@EthansOpinion92 Actually I believe toyota recieves assistance from yamaha on developing the valvetrains of their hi output engines
PrimeTimeGrimester 8 months ago
@PrimeTimeGrimester
My '00 Celica GT-S has Yamaha stamped on the block (passenger side) so I would believe so. Might also explain why it redlines @ 8K RPM since Yamaha deals with motorcycle engines.
MrRivethead1 8 months ago
@EthansOpinion92 nah man, todays v-tec r overpriced shit!! MIVEC all the way!!
djkasdjkasdjdjdj 7 months ago
@EthansOpinion92 actually mitsubishis engines are powerful and reliable and they have the first ever diesle engine in a car with variable valve timing so dont diss mitsu :)
boyishiyah 6 months ago 15
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TheForza1000 6 months ago
@TheForza1000 cause in Ireland u have a cool climate that any stupid car can handle like alfa romeo and range rover and BMW but if u bring them to Kuwait with 55 c they wont stand a chance the only cars that can handle the heat r mitsubishis and toyotas and Subarus and hondas.
what u dont understand about any technology is that i doesnt matter who does it first what matters is that its been perfected properly before its done and thats why Euro and american cars arent reliable in our country :)
boyishiyah 6 months ago
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TheForza1000 6 months ago
Translation please? ^^
polostampede 1 year ago
I thought it was in english
TR5T 1 year ago
were can we hire a english translator?
dammyousuck 1 year ago
didnt understand a word of that
kevrs2 1 year ago
japanese and german build the best car in the world, and kick americans' ass, who care about to use English to translate their techology?!!!
releasetaiwan 1 year ago 44
@releasetaiwan
NOT MANY german/japanese
can beat an ls7/ls9.
stock vs stock
stoone113 11 months ago
@stoone113 not many german/japanese cars have the wasteful capacity of the ls7/ls9.
stock vs stock. capcity vs capacity...its a no brainer..
Imreadingthisaloud 11 months ago
@releasetaiwan Why can't we both be on the same side as car enthusiasts? I personally prefer and drive American, but why does it have to be Germany and Japan vs. America? Why can't it be fast car vs. fast car? Regardless of a v8, v10, v6, I4, I6
ForlornDespair 11 months ago
@ForlornDespair i think its the culture in the approach to designing and building a sports engine/car. American cars tend to be bigger cc, larger weight...its like using a 4ft sword for keyhole surgery. A well balanced, purpouse built tool VS a not so well refined hammer. Mcdonalds VS 5 star cuisine...there both food..but they aint thot of the same way!! personally id never purchase an american car sad to say isnt it?
Imreadingthisaloud 11 months ago
@Imreadingthisaloud Ehh I think its more like the difference between big and strong and small and precise. they both get the job done, i think the old pushrod v8s are the best personally. I may never own a foreign car but ya never knw
ForlornDespair 11 months ago
@ForlornDespair ur entitled to your opinion, and i respect that. Personally id rather have something that performs as best it can, right on the limit. I see the american V8s as unrefined...maybe its my cultural back ground, but thats another debate!! :) we've all got choices on our vehicular transport, enjoy wotever u drive!
Imreadingthisaloud 11 months ago
@Imreadingthisaloud anything can perform as best as it can, all about what you do to it
ForlornDespair 11 months ago
@ForlornDespair as much as the american V8s have potential, they arent using it, and that wud eliminate the 'strength' of the lazy engine. Its just a different approach! like i said its everybodys personal choice. Mercedes currently make the best off the shelf V8 with a little help from AMG. Thats not potential, thats quality, precision and proper technical engineering, i c the american V8s as a erm..farm yard engineering. It does the job, it will last a long time, but its lazy
Imreadingthisaloud 11 months ago
@Imreadingthisaloud Ehhh that holds true with the american v8s of the 80s. But not now, with the corvette pushing 500+horse stock, you got the new camaros with 415 stock horses AND 24 mpg. you have the ford GT with the fastest v8 on the planet, obv not top speed but accel in a production car. idk man ill admit the v8's like the IROC are terrible and you barely get anything out of it, but the new ones are well engineered. the only diff between american v8s and euro v8s is firing order as well
ForlornDespair 11 months ago
@ForlornDespair ok so the fords forced induction, so is the vette(LS9). A like for like 6.2/6.3L V8 would be the LS3 i think, making 401 BHP. AMG 6.3 makes 571bhp. look at BMWs new M3, 4L...420bhp, thats as much as the LS7 which is 7L! There moving in the right direction, thats for sure! Im not dissing what those engines do, its rare to find a ferrari running after 10 years lol, ul find alot of old fords, chevvy, dodge, oldsmobiles...all these things still running around, just different leagues
Imreadingthisaloud 11 months ago
@Imreadingthisaloud Ya its just due to a smaller engine, diff firing order, and capability of higher rpm's. i think thats legit. But at the same time the corvette looks a lot sicker and is pulling 638hp (zr1). idk where you got 401 my camaro has more hp than that! yes it is supercharged but at 638hp with better track times, 0-60, and 1/4 mile. granted it is more expensive but still impressive.
ForlornDespair 11 months ago
@ForlornDespair i dont see the firing order being of any relavence to power output, its still 8 bangs per crank rotation. so tell me again about how displacement works to power? Displacement VS Displacement the american V8s are not on par..im sorry man in the power output. as for your track times and 0-60, thats an engine paired with a chasis, and thats another thing all together...wud u like to compare euro chasis to american?
Imreadingthisaloud 11 months ago
@ForlornDespair listen my origional comment wasnt saying america V8s were useless, they have their use, they get u around and will do for a long time. You admitted yourself they dont have the capability for high RPMs, nor do they make the best use of the larger engine. Like the song to that awful 80s show, different strokes for different folks!
Imreadingthisaloud 11 months ago
@Imreadingthisaloud euro v8's fire 2 pistons at a time i believe? and i knw im nt saying that your saying that lol. but the corvette zr1 has better nuremburg times than the bugatti vehron. you say ya thats an engine with a chassis to it but isnt that a car? =P
ForlornDespair 11 months ago
@ForlornDespair any V8 iv ever worked on has never had a duplex firing sequence, my comment, was on engines..not chasis. ur deviating from the origional debate. A lap time like ur bringing up now is made up from 2 mechanical factors in the car, chasis and engine. so eradicate the lap times for a second, and agree that the euro V8s are better because they produce more power per cylinder capacity than the american counter parts? then u can argue about lap times on nordshleife
Imreadingthisaloud 11 months ago
@Imreadingthisaloud Ehhh ya if your arguing cc vs cc but in the end you get a better bang for your buck with the US v8s
ForlornDespair 10 months ago
@ForlornDespair my comment wasnt of cost effectiveness. But u have a point for US cars being sold in the US. Here it would cost me the price of an M3 for a mustang. I cant comment on USDM price comparison. But u admit that euro V8s are superior? thank you! so do u think an american car has a better chasis than a european purpose built one? or shal we just leave it? leave it me thinks :D cos we know the answer ;) enjoy ur Z28
Imreadingthisaloud 10 months ago
@releasetaiwan don't worry americans will once again save the world with the invention of the next fuel for vehicles though...
blue03r6 11 months ago
@releasetaiwan Because even people that speak English respect the technology and want to learn about it.
elementaldrgnmstr 10 months ago
@releasetaiwan USDM FTW
70Chevelledude 9 months ago
@releasetaiwan I drive a z06 and i gotta say, technology wise, your exactly right. My C5 Z06 has more HP per litre than any C6 engine, except the ZR1 which is forced induction. Supposedly the new C7 is suppose to have a 3.0-3.3L turbocharged V8 with 9k RPM and 440-470hp. Somehow I doubt GM will make that.. Too good to be true.. Anyways, I love corvettes but its funny how little faith I have in them when it comes to engine efficiency that german cars have had for decades...
C5Rftw 8 months ago
@releasetaiwan so true man :=)
MegaLeonilde 7 months ago
apparently MIVEC rules..which I already knew since I own a Ralliart and stomp hondas and toyotas all the time...don't have to rev it to 9k rpm to get it to move..more tq than both honda and toy of same class...
Pre00 1 year ago
@Pre00 Yeah, but Toyota and Honda surpassed mitsubishi in style, reliability, ect. Hondas vtec has proven itsself many times over. The system is like 21 years old now. And Honda got it right. But, Toyota has VVT-i down too.
Motorfordtoyota 1 year ago
@Pre00 ralliarts are FI motors not na retard, of course they have an advantage
sciullo779 1 year ago
@sciullo779 if you knew anything about motors you would know that mitsubishi call their type of tunning ralliart just like nissan are nismo etc
m1n7y 1 year ago
i will translate...he is saying our jap cars are made from used coffee cans and melted down condoms and our engines are clones from briggs and stratton engines with a few extra cylinders added, they run on rat piss and rice squeezing's and for a mere 25,000$ you can get up to 105hp and 35ftlbs of torque to spin these massive 12'' plastic tires
stingraystud 1 year ago
is there a english translation of this video?
can`t understand anything...
macmackoolets 1 year ago
Here's your translation. VTEC: Prdrdrdrdriiiing ding ding ding ding ding bom ding ding bom bom ding ding bom di di ding ding....
MIVEC: WAAAAAUUUUUUGH! PSSH! WAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH! PSHHH! WAUAUAUAUAUAUAUAUAUAGH!!!!!!! PSH.... (downshift) (mwoooOOOOOOOOO0O0O0O0O0O0ooooooooov byeeitchgetoutdaway.
Jafromobile 1 year ago
This video is in Japanese.
azuanlb 1 year ago
tang inang hapon yan,, am bobo rin ng nag upload n2 eh noh.tang ina tlga ..wla mang lng subtitles..
barronerik 1 year ago
Vtec needs to stop being FF
EmperorBenzRx8 1 year ago
@EmperorBenzRx8 FR - S2000.
Blessedtouch 1 year ago
SUBTITLES: Teke nowagata taikong sowai kana keso noka.
TheKoreanX 1 year ago
in english please? or at least some subtitles ffs
alberto148 1 year ago
3 years of japanese in high school and I understood only 5% of this vid :(
Lol I understand more by just watching...
psychotikpaisano 1 year ago
@psychotikpaisano lol japanese is hella hard lol even for someone who is half japanese like me is even hard hah
RXHardstyle 1 year ago
alsdjfeonclekcmaoeihs.a;elkjc...............what?
thahondaboy211 1 year ago
is there any engine with all 3 techs?
c0V3Ro 1 year ago
@c0V3Ro no coz as it said it each engine is differently innovated. Someone would have to physically design with all 3 in it but i doubt its worth it
RXHardstyle 1 year ago
@RXHardstyle maybe in the future. but honda R18, probably K20 too, got i-vtec and variable geometry intake manifold. two big advances in one engine. cheers.
c0V3Ro 1 year ago
@c0V3Ro yeh ive got a K20A. pretty banging for a 4 banger ;)
RXHardstyle 1 year ago
english plz? -_-
HaV1cKW3M 1 year ago
if you cant understand whats goin on here because its not in english.you shouldnt even like cars...
damanbrad2004 1 year ago
please explain an english,,,ta.
wimarc38 1 year ago
haha but valvetronic is the best . this is a fact so dont come at me honda lovers just stating the obvious..
BxBaNgEr828 1 year ago
@BxBaNgEr828 source of fact please?
RXHardstyle 1 year ago
@RXHardstyle auto skool and google. valvatronic uses a big solenoid thats mounted over the cams and it is VERY hard to turn by hand. it works just like v tec but more accurately and efficiently the solenoid is able to change valve lift when neccessary unlike v tec using only rpms, valvetronic can engage whenever.
BxBaNgEr828 1 year ago
i cant understand this jap shit
stingraystud 1 year ago
damn zips
i like mivec it looks lik it would outlast vtec
but those valves didnt look right
there isnt enough closer it looks like it would burn a valve in seconds.
kreigsmann 1 year ago