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  • how do you own a tiger??

  • do you ever get tired of these keyboard warriors that "know" more than you because they read a wikipedia one time?

  • awesome lens :)

  • responsible wild animal ownership at its best, keep up with the vids like this!!

  • Pshh.. Like that metal chain is going to stop that tiger if it wants to go somewhere

  • Who cares to wright correctly on youtube when typing through a phone and how do you asume who I am or not this could be my sons youtube account good parents keep an eye on what there kids say online and 1997 is his birth date I made it for him dont asume things you things you cant prove with out thinking them completely though

  • @shono1997 dude you´re not even 14 regarding how you express yourself. Give it up -.-

  • Thats how it was in my military days this silent treatment did not fly I just want a straight forward answer on why not

  • @shono1997 I can give a few reasons as to why they're not answering. Number 1: Not everyone is on the internet at all times of the day, so you may not get a response immediately. It's called patience, it pays off. Number 2: Your comments are barely legible. Poor grammar all around, no punctuation at all and poor spelling everywhere. Number 3: Based on your channel name, one can assume you are only about 13 - 14 years old, assuming 1997 is your birthdate and thus not old enough to raise big cats.

  • @shono1997 Also it helps if you don't pretend that you're a veteran, especially when people can hear and see how young you are in one of your videos. You haven't seen military combat, so don't lie just to make yourself sound like a hard ass on the internet. I've got a cousin overseas with the Navy, keeping America and our allies safe, so don't you dare lie and say you're doing the same thing as him while you sit there uploading videos of yourself playing with a paintball gun. I'm not impressed.

  • It seems as all of the people on ur website who hos youtube vids on big cats diliberatly choose to ingnore me do u have a reson it makes u seem as if u all have no manner u can at least respond with no commit and a reson why

  • I find it obveouse that u have choosin to dilberatly ingnore my commet listed below Idk why u would tho I just wish to raise and take care of big cats wether its a big cat vet to a raiser like u why do u choose to ingore me pls respond

  • Check out AllAboutWhiteTigers . com

  • @WhiteTigerTRUTHS Thanks for sharing. I was just discussing exacly this topic with OP :-)

  • White Tigers are a true gift from nature!

  • Tiger purr <3

  • haha the tiger looks very well fed:)

  • What would happen if the animal just took off running? How can you hold back a fully grown tiger?

  • @Kashmereair This walk occurred inside a private, securely fenced compound. Anyway: if the tiger decided to run, it is not any different than if a big dog or horse you are walking decides to run, you can either hold on to the leash and get dragged, or let go of the animal until it gets tired, and then go and get them and walk them back to their cage.

  • @BigCatHaven Thanks for the reply. Good to know that the area is fenced in. I wasn't being factious, just genuinely curious. Again, thanks for the clarification.

  • So my thought is where due you live not exactly but like country or state I dont care were I have to move

  • Due to exotic animale laws in my kentuky I finde that impossible to own or find a good job were im not workin my ass off makin nothin taking care of theme

  • Lions I mean I wish to own one or have a perminent job dealing with big cats mainly tigers but loins are ok to but

  • Iv been askin all people with the rexano.com in the vid I am a responsible owner with tiger training thanks to a trip I took to south africa were I volintered to take care of tigers a & linos

  • What's the use of the leash? I think if it wants to get away, it WILL get away.

  • @sh1monn The leash is there to guide the animal in the direction you want it to go, like with dog, horse, etc.... If the animal really wants to get away, it will, but it is NOT any different than if a big dog or a horse decides to get away. This was filmed inside a private, securely fenced compound.

  • Wow. Imagine getting a tiger to walk on a leash. I can't even get housecats to do that.

  • They are so beautiful ..they look well taken care of an by your videos you can tell that y'all love what y'all do :)

  • Can i have your job please O.O <3

  • @bigcathaven so why do you keep a -white- tiger? I mean I´m 100% pro exotics but i dont see any reason in breeding them...

  • @1t2t3t4t5t6t7 we keep orange tiger too, we love them all regardless of color, see other videos on our BigCatHaven YT channel, and also see our African lion on our RexanoExotics YT channel. Tiger=Tiger, regardless of color, like human=human, regardless of their hair color.

  • @BigCatHaven Well I do not doubt that a white Tiger is a great companion but I can see at least 2 of them in this video and that makes me wonder if these cats were specifically bread for that purpose. You probably know about the inbreeding in white tigers and so I ask myself why someone would breed them, knowing that they might suffer from a variety of genetic defects.

    PS: I already saw all of your videos :P

  • @1t2t3t4t5t6t7 our white tigers are as healthy and long lived as our orange tigers, do NOT believe all the NON scientific white tiger propaganda you read on the Internet. Genetic defects happen in other species, including humans.

  • @BigCatHaven I know there are many false facts set by self-proclaimed "animal rights" activists and co. and that´s why I did look it up myself and came to the conclusion that white tigers are pretty inbread and should not be bread to this degree. It´s in the wikipedia in various languages and their references seem pretty stable to me.

    I wouldn´t mind being disproven by you though if you are capable of doing so.

  • @1t2t3t4t5t6t7Wikipedia is NOT a scientific, peer reviewed journal, it is an Internet site, just like YT. We can not prove negative, it is up to you to prove, using scientific evidence, that white tigers are shorter lived/sicker than orange ones. We can only go by our PERSONAL experience, and we see NO difference.

  • @BigCatHaven calm down, dude. I do not want to prove anything, I rather expected to be informed by someone who obviously is informed about white tigers and probably did his research better than i did.

    I am well aware than wikipedia is not peer reviewed. But they do use citations. Citations like this one:

    sciencemag(dot)org/content/180­/4092/1287

    Now don´t try to tell me that the science magazine is not authenic or not peer reviewed.

  • @1t2t3t4t5t6t7 please check that 1973 link, it involves ONE white tiger, NOT a big sample, is it? snippet "Abstract "White"tigers show an inherited reduction of pigment, produced by an autosomal recessive gene. The brain of one of these tigers shows an abnormality of the visual pathways similar to abnormalities that are associated with albinism in many other mammals. There is a close relationship between the reduced pigment formation, the pathway abnormality, and strabismus.

    "

  • @BigCatHaven well the best thing you can get from high-rated magazines online are abstracts. There is more, though I don´t know which you would concider "credible" and I haven´t read about a single scientist arguing in contra of these genetic defects. As the whole internet is full with these information, them being true or not, it is rather you who should prove that white tigers are not inbred.

  • @1t2t3t4t5t6t7 Most people breeding white tigers these days are cross-breeding them with orange tigers to increase their genetic diversity at the cost of less white cubs. This has helped the white tiger tremendously. I have seen some of the white tigers from the 'inbreeding days'. What we have today is much better. People like the white tigers, I'm glad they exist and that people are going to the trouble to breed healthy ones.

  • @timbalionguy @bigcathaven It sounds plausible that their genes are improving when being cross-bred, though I suspect that there are certain (harmful) genes related to the recessive white tiger gene similar to the strabismus one that cannot be "thinned out" in broadening the gene-pool. I also read parts of this: allaboutwhitetigers(dot)com site posted recently on this vid as a first site i´ve come across to actually critisize the white tiger topic.

  • @1t2t3t4t5t6t7 I dunno. White tigers occur naturally, and in large enough numbers to suggest that the white gene is not a great survival risk.

  • @timbalionguy I have never heard of large numbers of tigers in the wild. As far as I am informed, there was this one white tiger they captured like 70 years ago and all the white tigers in captivity go back to this individuum, beacaure there has never been another sighting of a white tiger again. Again, i could be wrong, I don´t keep white tigers - that´s why I asked OP here...

  • @1t2t3t4t5t6t7 There are not large numbers of white tigers. But from what I understnad, they show up every 10 years or so. So, the white gene is definitely out there. White lions are also rare, but seemingly more common than they once were.

  • @timbalionguy I heard about the white lions, theres a whole poulation somewhere in africa i think.

    And about the genetics...they may occur naturally but in effort to ´select´ for white, "golden" or "white stripeless" tigers on a basis with only one ancestor....it still sounds like a venture to me.

  • @1t2t3t4t5t6t7 And what is wrong with a venture? Or liking white tigers?

  • @timbalionguy I like white tigers, i really do. But i wouldnt go that far to breed them if I knew they would suffer from genetic defects...which I dont know as you guys keep telling me they aren´t there. Fact is, the gene that carries the recessive white colour allele also carries this strabinism and probably other stuff (this is often the case in specific "wanted" genes; watch this for example:

    myspace . com/video/vid/44215931

    ).

  • @timbalionguy CONT: So to me there is evidence that white tigers have genetic defects and as far as I can tell this is a reason to put this kind of breeding to an end. And yes, there may be tigers that dont show these defects "phenotypically", and maybe OP had the luck to own such. But when I hear about these dogs having serious genetic problem in most cases I get the impression that certain breeds should just not be bred. And that´s what´s wrong with a venture.

  • @1t2t3t4t5t6t7 Tiger inbreeding.

  • @1t2t3t4t5t6t7 If you get down to the bottom of it, all tigers have genetic defects. The defects in the white tigers get pointed out because 1.) They were more prevalent a few years ago, when inbreeding was rampant, and 2.) There is a group of people out there who have dedicated their lives to separating us from our animals, by any means (legal or illegal, moral or immoral) necessary. You are just believing their lies because you likely don't have firsthand experience with tigers.

  • @timbalionguy I agree with 1) and 2) to 100%. Nevertheless (almost) all information about this topic is in favour of this standpoint, including some actual scientists, what do you expect me to believe in?

    Your last point is true too. But, you dont sound like someone who has specific qualifications in biology/genetics either... and firsthand experience doesn´t qualify for a differenciated opinion on tiger conservation - only for liking these creatures and wanting to defend them.

  • @1t2t3t4t5t6t7 Maybe I am not a scientist, but I do know a lot about biology. Most scientists don't actually work with tigers. I see them, I know them, I interact with them. We are making good progress in keeping them n captivity. I have a vested interest in seeing tigers, both orange and white, thrive in captivity, as the wild is simply going away. I do not like it when people try and 'control' animal people by citing research and statistics that do not hold up in the field!

  • @timbalionguy I´m not trying to "control" people. As already mentioned, your tigers could be an exception to the population - or they could be not. Good, clean statistics are usually better than "case studies" - experience. And if they actually do suffer from these defects as much as some people claim they do, it would be better to not breed them, especially as it woulndt be much help for conservation issues.

    You got me so far that I doubt that white tigers are actually purely

  • @timbalionguy CONT: inbred creatures - I cannot decide if these "rumours" are true or not, fact is there is a lot of argumentation for this point and that´s why you won´t get me 100% on your side. I simply won´t take a stand for either parties anymore.

    As i obviously wont convince you of the opposite either, i figure that this discussion is finished. Thank´s for taking the time to teaching me.

    PS: What do other (non-white-tiger-)exotic owners opine about this?

  • @timbalionguy @bigcathaven CONT: I guess it takes some studying of this topic to form a solid opinion and I am a bit disappointed of OP not to give me a single argument here but rather using the "nonono-how-dare-you"-method in effort to convince me. I almost get the impression I´m talking to BCR representative regarding the way he/she argues.

  • @BigCatHaven CONT: I could also argue that white Tigers all descend from one individuum of the wild (or is that a hoax too?) and that extreme inbreeding is the indispensable conclusion.

    Your tigers may be healthy (for now) but you know best what kind of husbandry you are supporting and with it the reputation of exotic owners.

  • @BigCatHaven CONT: You could argue that they certain "usual" pets are treated similarly(breeding for specific traits and disregarding genetic thinning/defects) but this is just as lousy as what we are discussing here. There are limits for "beauty" breeding and when seriously harming the animal´s health these limits are crossed. You said yourself that there is no white tiger "subspecies" - hence there is not even a need to maintain/enlarge their numbers, conservationistically spoken.

  • @1t2t3t4t5t6t7 PS: also strabismus, aka lazy eye is not a life/death condition, it is really a cosmetic issue often occurring in humans. Should we fix these humans so they don't reproduce???

  • that's a LOUD purr!

  • This is amazing.. Could you please give us one long vid tour of your property? All cages, what they are used for, some fun facts etc. I love seeing a new vid from REXANO in my sub box!

  • It's so cute how the tiger headbutts your leg like house cats do :)

  • That's one big house cat!

  • @BigCatHaven What kind of tiger is that? (White with black stripes)

  • @Comment117 they are called white tigers, regular tiger with white color, kind of like humans can have hair of different color, it is NOT a separate subspecies

  • "Z" I've watched tons of videos on large cats and I can honestly say I've NEVER seen any better admired, respected and cared for than the ones you have that you've worked with !!

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  • Beautiful video and says it all !!! Made a longer comment on facebook.

  • yes that was bad ass. i walk my cat maximus but he is just a little housecat.

  • always love this channel. more vids!!!! how about feeding/caring for the big cats

  • So cool :)

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