He don`t want to work with you! The way you train him is horrible! It`s mental violence, this should be your friend not an enemy! He couldn`t have any joy or fun while beeing with you, if you "train" him this way. Look after a respectfull way of beeng with him and how to teach him gently what you expect from him!
There are thousands of different ways and opinions. We have many different "horsemen" such as Monty, Parelli, A. Nevzorov and Klaus Ferdinand Hempfling. Personally I'll for ever continue searching for the ultimate way of handling and being with a horse. The only man that possess this knowledge is i.m.o. Hempfling. I admire his way with horses and I'd love to attain that. I've come to realize that neither Parelli nor Nevzorov or Monty possess this feeling so I'm leaving their ideas and moving on.
I totally agree! I've looked into a few of them--I was very interested in Nevzorov briefly--but Hempfling really does have the best balance. Wonderful job with your stallion!
Thanks, it seems we have the same opinion! :) Not implying that one "side" always should be chosen, we're searching and are open minded, that's why Nevzorov WAS interesting for a while, until acknowleding what his horses expressed when being around him, and that's the point when one should look further forward imo. I'm truly not like Hempfling, damn I wish I were!!! A friend of mine study his principles really thorough and is a student at K.F.H place. So good for her!
When I graduate I hope to be able to go to the KFH farm and learn directly from him. I'm reading a book of his now--"What Horses Reveal"--to try to study up. You're farther along than I am though! My pony only has one eye so I can't really do these methods with her. I hope I can try with my next horse. Jag ocksa faktiskt pratar Svenska om det ar enklare for dig :-) Jattebra jobb!
Ok, very interesting! Well, english is totally fine ;P Cool that you know some swedish, why is that so? I've been approved at the PNH level 1 (not an instructor though) but to me it feels like Parelli's techniques (cause that's what it is) only teaches the horse to do things "or else", rather than focusing on building a relationship to the horse and after that is established, the horse "learns" what to do by imitating the humans bodylanguage.
I've learned the join up (like in this video) from a horseman in Sweden, not Parelli. But I've used some Parelli influences sometimes but feel it's unnecessary. Moving hind ends over etc. is not building a relationship to the horse, that's pure dominance "games"
And dominance work, it's easy for the average people to follow Parellis "educational ladder" step by step. But it's only dominant things they do, and in between they have some "friendly games" when stroking the horse gently. There's no feeling to it. I've been working with a Parelli trained leasing horse in Colorado, and that horse was like a pure robot! They've trained the horse so hard, that when I stood still with my back against it listening to the instructor, I noticed that the horse...
...started to back up in the leadrope only because I did something with my hand behind my back :O in other words, I moved my hand slightly just standing there and the horse just totally backs up several steps! That's not the kind of relationship I want with my horse, and that's where Hempfling comes in the picture =) Sounds like a good idea to go there, I hope you'll get wiser! I've read all of his books and they are super! They have true feeling to them and I can see that Hempfling has a
some problems "explaining" this to people. He hasn't made up some kind of "ladder" to follow - cause that's not possible, and that's why people find it harder to learn cause they really need the true feeling, and that's not something one will achieve by reading a book. (as I learned Parelli level 1, I just went to the US to get the certificate) It's a good thing to have "wide eyes" and you're absolutely on the right path if your asking me =)
In this vid I'm working with him a bit too fast, especially seen when he follows me around. I need to slow down some and chill, have more feeling to it. But I guess this comes from the fact that I've had a lot of horses to work with and that takes a lot of time and gets somewhat stressful, which isn't a good thing. I'm glad you like the vid though, it shows the basic work on join up. I understand that it could be more complicated with a one-eyed horse, but hey, it'll work the Hempfling way!!! =)
This way is a hell of a lot gentler than most training methods. What exactly do YOU suggest? Let him just do whatever he wants? If you're not dominant, the horse is, and that's a very dangerous situation. Much better to establish who's boss right off the bat (in this gentle way). After he's listening, you can make progress. Before then, nothing will get done.
Helt fantastiskt! Du är hur duktig som helst! Hempling är verkligen bäst :D. Btw, Om han inte hade följt med dig efter att han kom in till mitten vad hade du gjort då?
He don`t want to work with you! The way you train him is horrible! It`s mental violence, this should be your friend not an enemy! He couldn`t have any joy or fun while beeing with you, if you "train" him this way. Look after a respectfull way of beeng with him and how to teach him gently what you expect from him!
ratpinch 4 years ago
There are thousands of different ways and opinions. We have many different "horsemen" such as Monty, Parelli, A. Nevzorov and Klaus Ferdinand Hempfling. Personally I'll for ever continue searching for the ultimate way of handling and being with a horse. The only man that possess this knowledge is i.m.o. Hempfling. I admire his way with horses and I'd love to attain that. I've come to realize that neither Parelli nor Nevzorov or Monty possess this feeling so I'm leaving their ideas and moving on.
michaeljackson4ever 4 years ago
I totally agree! I've looked into a few of them--I was very interested in Nevzorov briefly--but Hempfling really does have the best balance. Wonderful job with your stallion!
Kolibri2005 3 years ago
Thanks, it seems we have the same opinion! :) Not implying that one "side" always should be chosen, we're searching and are open minded, that's why Nevzorov WAS interesting for a while, until acknowleding what his horses expressed when being around him, and that's the point when one should look further forward imo. I'm truly not like Hempfling, damn I wish I were!!! A friend of mine study his principles really thorough and is a student at K.F.H place. So good for her!
michaeljackson4ever 3 years ago
When I graduate I hope to be able to go to the KFH farm and learn directly from him. I'm reading a book of his now--"What Horses Reveal"--to try to study up. You're farther along than I am though! My pony only has one eye so I can't really do these methods with her. I hope I can try with my next horse. Jag ocksa faktiskt pratar Svenska om det ar enklare for dig :-) Jattebra jobb!
Kolibri2005 3 years ago
Ok, very interesting! Well, english is totally fine ;P Cool that you know some swedish, why is that so? I've been approved at the PNH level 1 (not an instructor though) but to me it feels like Parelli's techniques (cause that's what it is) only teaches the horse to do things "or else", rather than focusing on building a relationship to the horse and after that is established, the horse "learns" what to do by imitating the humans bodylanguage.
michaeljackson4ever 3 years ago
I've learned the join up (like in this video) from a horseman in Sweden, not Parelli. But I've used some Parelli influences sometimes but feel it's unnecessary. Moving hind ends over etc. is not building a relationship to the horse, that's pure dominance "games"
michaeljackson4ever 3 years ago
And dominance work, it's easy for the average people to follow Parellis "educational ladder" step by step. But it's only dominant things they do, and in between they have some "friendly games" when stroking the horse gently. There's no feeling to it. I've been working with a Parelli trained leasing horse in Colorado, and that horse was like a pure robot! They've trained the horse so hard, that when I stood still with my back against it listening to the instructor, I noticed that the horse...
michaeljackson4ever 3 years ago
...started to back up in the leadrope only because I did something with my hand behind my back :O in other words, I moved my hand slightly just standing there and the horse just totally backs up several steps! That's not the kind of relationship I want with my horse, and that's where Hempfling comes in the picture =) Sounds like a good idea to go there, I hope you'll get wiser! I've read all of his books and they are super! They have true feeling to them and I can see that Hempfling has a
michaeljackson4ever 3 years ago
some problems "explaining" this to people. He hasn't made up some kind of "ladder" to follow - cause that's not possible, and that's why people find it harder to learn cause they really need the true feeling, and that's not something one will achieve by reading a book. (as I learned Parelli level 1, I just went to the US to get the certificate) It's a good thing to have "wide eyes" and you're absolutely on the right path if your asking me =)
michaeljackson4ever 3 years ago
In this vid I'm working with him a bit too fast, especially seen when he follows me around. I need to slow down some and chill, have more feeling to it. But I guess this comes from the fact that I've had a lot of horses to work with and that takes a lot of time and gets somewhat stressful, which isn't a good thing. I'm glad you like the vid though, it shows the basic work on join up. I understand that it could be more complicated with a one-eyed horse, but hey, it'll work the Hempfling way!!! =)
michaeljackson4ever 3 years ago
This way is a hell of a lot gentler than most training methods. What exactly do YOU suggest? Let him just do whatever he wants? If you're not dominant, the horse is, and that's a very dangerous situation. Much better to establish who's boss right off the bat (in this gentle way). After he's listening, you can make progress. Before then, nothing will get done.
Kolibri2005 3 years ago
Helt fantastiskt! Du är hur duktig som helst! Hempling är verkligen bäst :D. Btw, Om han inte hade följt med dig efter att han kom in till mitten vad hade du gjort då?
NeroLeviathan 4 years ago
mycket lärorikt!
sarahthorsen94 4 years ago
Duktiga ni är:)
junigirl15 4 years ago 2
hehe det ser nog bra ut ! inte för att jag kan nått om hästar men men ;)
magicwiggas 4 years ago 2
Snälla, läs min text i fältet till höger genom att klicka på den blåa texten "more".
michaeljackson4ever 4 years ago