i wonder if ever before have so many been so clueless about so little. to the detractors, your fear lies within. Though it is not your fault it is within your power to rise above it. If you do what you have always done, you will continue to get what you've always got, i feel that i am only presently beginning to understand that on a personal level but the race is long and in the end it is only with oneself. Drop resentment, it will only leave you bitter. Your empathy will set you free.
This is what I want: organise a subsidised pass for all whites to leave SA and go back to a country or part of the world where things work and thugs are not protected by law... Once we are gone you can have the country to yourself... and do with it what you want.. and after some time when, like the rest of Africa everything is stuffed up, u can again have some or other public debate -- Like Malema, lm sure u will find some white or western country to to blame...
Bianc Fourie,You are a digrace to all woman,where did you learn your digacefull language,in one of our many harbours for that is the place Iv'e heard such gutter language form a female.Free speech does exist in this country,I too disagreedwith many of his statements.You must have grown up in a commune of some sort thence the filthy language you use.The men are also predisposed to use foul language,they do at leaves a word or two out,to
make their point,but you deerie are not so discreet .
@ BiancaFourie - I am utterly appalled at your blatant racism and will pray very hard for you!
"Arch" - Sir - you have my deepest admiration. For decades you've been the spokesperson for those totally lost in the quagmire of our deeply divided society.
Keep talking - on, and on, and on...we need to "reparate" - because we need to try to undo some of the horrendous harm of our past...
Shut the fuckup racist cunt ..your living in a reach church home where your safe...get out of your safety barrier and see how white south african's have to live in fear everyday ..and the majority of us arent that rich as you presume ..IDIOT :@
I have watched the full video. Tthe words of Dr Tutu are honest, insightful and gentle. He is asking us to look at the situation objectively. I did not understand why so many of the comments were heated, reacting to words never said. Please listen fully to the video calmly. I am white and have lived in the Black community for 20 years, a blessing to learn how wonderful the culture truly is. The way forward can only happen through understanding.
not a very good talker; maybe he is old but i can't finish watching this!
ok, the video carried on and at minute 15 he said all whites benefited from apartheid .... this is crap ... today SA is the most modern country in Africa, the blacks also benefited from the whites being here .... go and look at other african countries where there are less whites and see how bad things are going there
White tax: Making one race group poor will not solve anything. You need to uplift everyone. How can you make such IRRESPONSIBLE comments - we had enough of fueling racial hatred. SHAME ON YOU.
@alchiby The Germans, in contrast to white South Africans, show(ed) remorse for the Holocaust. Yes, the country moved on economically, etc., but up to this day Germans have a humility which stems from the realization that they were guilty of terrible things. (Unfortunately - but that is a different discussion) their guilt continues to the present, partly because of what happened, but also because of accusations from the rest of the world. And so they too continue to live with their legacy.
Apartheid damaged South Africa but not as badly as the Elite has through ALL of Africa. Why are we in the process of creating an Elite in South Africa. Stop looking at the past and start looking into the future. Forget about black and white but rather focus on rich and poor, regardless or race. South Africa can only move on once all the old leaders have passed on and fresh open minded leaders replace all the current self puttying ones.
I'm an ex-University of Stellenbosch tertiary student. What a load of BS!! The tutu man can't even read properly. Advice to anyone with brains: Pack up and Ship Out to UK, Aussie, New Zealand, Canada, USA and have a good life. You should have done it 15 years ago!! WHY do you still put up with this BS???
Stop blaming apartheid. Look for the reason on a spiritual level. John McAthur had the courage to say on TV after 9/11, discussing reason for it happening with spiritual leaders:'THEY HAVE THE WRONG GOD' Mbeki was first President to go to his home village to slaughter an ox for blood, giving spiritual authority over SA to Satan. Shortly thereafter babies raped, heads cut off, old people's brains on ceilings! Blood + forefathers + sangomas= no blessing, prosperity, love, respect. Tutu, you know!
@mrscayenne2 You have as much spiritualism as the Spainish Inquisition, and strike me as a highly uneducated woman. You are the least likely person to offer love to others besides your own kind, and even less any respect. The only belief you have is in considering yourself important enough to lord your attitudes over the belief of others. Shame on you!
Tutu is a racist. He is supposed to be a man of the cloth. He can take his ridiculous ideas and rot in hell as far as i am concerned. Not a chance i will pay for what my forefathers have done. The blacks get the cushy BEE jobs and the white youngsters of today in SA have no chance of competing for jobs. Ridiculous statement by someone who is meant to have a level head and a religious stand point. He is nothing but an ANC spokesperson.
White PRIVILAGE CRAP ! THIS LINE OF BS IS "ALWAYS USED IN THE UNITED STATES BY RACIST BLACKS" seems like they ARE NOW USING THIS BS IN SOUTH AFRICA ! MAYBE WHITE COUNTRIES SHOULD IMPOSE A "BLACK TAX" ON AFRICANS FOR ALL THE HAVOC THEY BRING WITH THEM ! LIKE IN LONDON ! CALCULATE THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY RACIST BLACK AFRICANS AND THEN IMPOSE A TAX ON ALL " BLACK PEOPLE" TO HELP REPAY FOR ALL THE DAMAGE ! PLUS HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL THE WELFARE THEY RECEIVE ! THEY MUST BE TAXED TO PAY FOR IT !
@albert2adams, the old man is saying the truth that other prominent senior citizens can't dare to say. black people lived for decades feeling guilty for just being "black", it was a curse that you were “black”, you were made every day to feel and not to forget that you are. If the truth hurts u that much that u wanna leave, by all means, go well and rest assured u won’t be missed. By the way, this country is not short of timid and thoughtless individuals.
I ever would have thought I would see the day that this man would utter such racist suggestions. I am dissapointed and more and more feeling that it may be time to to pack up and ship out. If you don't want us here, let us leave!
It is so true that shame and guilt is devastating our white compatriots. the only way we can go forward together is not by pretending that we have common beliefs. there is still huge disparity between whites and blacks in this country, the evidence is on the comments in the news articles, we always pull ethnic remarks to everything even senselessly so most of the time. the sooner we acknowledge and accept that disparity the better.
No Tutu, we get upset because all we've ever done and continueing to do is offering ourselves for the benefit of SA and making it the most advanced country on the continent. But all we get is constantly being put on a guilt trip for the past. I'm done. I hope SA fails. Take my car, I don't want it. But I still don't care, beacuse I know the truth. LAIR.
Hearing Tutu gives me hope for SA, and his honesty, wisdom and courage to say the things that people don't want to hear are an inspiration to stand up for the truth and what is right. Often I too am tired of the guilt - whether self-imposed or forced on me by others - of being a white South African. But it is my legacy and inheritance that cannot be erased (just as e.g. the Germans could not erase their Holocaust history), and the challenge is to turn this legacy into a positive contribution.
@mecks100 The Germans can not erase the HOLOCAUST but they got past it,to day Germany is a very
successful country.It did not take them long to be that way,our country I fear is not going forwards it's going backwards.The rot is visible wherever you go look around you mecks100
Melanin differs 25-38% between so-called "whites" & "blacks"; this particular difference is due to one DNA base pair difference in the 21420 base pair long SLC45A5 gene. Two other genes (MC1R & SLC45A2) can also cause significant differences, & 4 more minor differences in skin colour & hair. If you are leaving school, (& had nothing to do with SA's past), note that the ANC, Cosatu, the ANCYL & others believe that these genes must control your access to opportunities. SA is committed to racism.
The biggest cause of oppression and racism is caused by politics and politicians. Political parties should be abolished as they never cater for the whole nation. Dictatorship is demonic and only enriches the life of the dictator. True democracy is when people are voted into public top positions by the public . Each category i.e. Finance, education, health, etc should have a total expert in the top position. Pol parties seldom have expertize in all sections and behind closed doors concoctions.
The biggest cause of oppression and racism is caused by politics and politicians. Political parties should be abolished as they never cater for the whole nation. Dictatorship is demonic and only enriches the life of the dictactor. True democracy is when people are voted into puplic top positions by the public . Each catagory i.e. Finance, education, health, etc should have a total expert in the top position. Pol parties seldom have expertize in all sections and behind closed doors concoctions.
Once again comments are published out of context. I sometimes become weary of the burden of having grown up, not as a wealthy white, but having the opportunities that were not available to all. We cannot save the world single-handedly, but we can take care of those who the universe has put on this earth to share our path. One person a day. If everyone on this earth took care of everyone else, nobody would be wanting. The "me first" culture has a lot to answer for.
he is saying that both sides are in pain from the past, I dont disagree with what he is saying and hell, it is more articulate and better than someone like Julius Malema
at the center of his speech, as always, he focuses on compassion and highlighting that there is pain throughout humanity that we must recognise and overcome
I was around when apartheid was in place, I benefited, BUT I pay my taxes despite this "morally superior" government screwing me over. I believe that for some weird reason that I should STAY and contribute to the rebuilding of this country.
Concentrate on RIGHTEOUSNESS a word many of our so-called leaders don't understand. BUILD A BIGGER CAKE or we'll fight over the crumbs.
This speech was completely pointless. He needs to direct a speech at educating his own race. He needs to tell them that they need to start using the democratic system they fought for to vote in a government that is non-corrupt. To not allowing any government absolute power. And most importantly teach them how to hold their government accountable for their mistakes. Teach them to stop supporting those who are corrupt, and so on.. only then will they start to move out of poverty. Wake up Tutu.
Watching this and seeing that the media is using everything out of context in order to get a reaction from everyone. Looks like it's worked and people are not watching the video to get the truth but have already made they're minds up by the time they get here. God bless you Tutu.
Even here - where Tutu's words can be heard and seen in context and where it is clear that he isn't playing a blame game, but rather pleading for the continual healing of our collective wounds - there are still people who just doesn't seem to get it.
Yeah how many white people do I know that sits without work because BEE and AA takes those opportunities away from them? Black South Africans are living the life of kings, where White South Africans are poverty stricken and helpless.
I hope... I pray... These blacks would stop their racism and stop blaming the past. Why dont the black ppl sell their cars to show some respect to me!
What a bloody racist. Now Apartheid is to blame for people littering ??? Apartheid probably caused Global Warming as well!!! Yes - keep blaming.. Why don't you stand up and develop your race as the whites did ? After the Anglo Boer war - the Afrikaners lost everything - but they did not steal and murder and rape. They worked hard and reaped the rewards. Now you want to TAX the white people again and again ? Moron - the whites are 9% of the population, but 95% of the taxpayers.
i wonder if ever before have so many been so clueless about so little. to the detractors, your fear lies within. Though it is not your fault it is within your power to rise above it. If you do what you have always done, you will continue to get what you've always got, i feel that i am only presently beginning to understand that on a personal level but the race is long and in the end it is only with oneself. Drop resentment, it will only leave you bitter. Your empathy will set you free.
vids4bling 5 months ago
This is what I want: organise a subsidised pass for all whites to leave SA and go back to a country or part of the world where things work and thugs are not protected by law... Once we are gone you can have the country to yourself... and do with it what you want.. and after some time when, like the rest of Africa everything is stuffed up, u can again have some or other public debate -- Like Malema, lm sure u will find some white or western country to to blame...
Tinfoilstar2 6 months ago
Bianc Fourie,You are a digrace to all woman,where did you learn your digacefull language,in one of our many harbours for that is the place Iv'e heard such gutter language form a female.Free speech does exist in this country,I too disagreedwith many of his statements.You must have grown up in a commune of some sort thence the filthy language you use.The men are also predisposed to use foul language,they do at leaves a word or two out,to
make their point,but you deerie are not so discreet .
alchiby 6 months ago
@ BiancaFourie - I am utterly appalled at your blatant racism and will pray very hard for you!
"Arch" - Sir - you have my deepest admiration. For decades you've been the spokesperson for those totally lost in the quagmire of our deeply divided society.
Keep talking - on, and on, and on...we need to "reparate" - because we need to try to undo some of the horrendous harm of our past...
Br1anSand 6 months ago
Shut the fuckup racist cunt ..your living in a reach church home where your safe...get out of your safety barrier and see how white south african's have to live in fear everyday ..and the majority of us arent that rich as you presume ..IDIOT :@
BiancaFourie 6 months ago
I have watched the full video. Tthe words of Dr Tutu are honest, insightful and gentle. He is asking us to look at the situation objectively. I did not understand why so many of the comments were heated, reacting to words never said. Please listen fully to the video calmly. I am white and have lived in the Black community for 20 years, a blessing to learn how wonderful the culture truly is. The way forward can only happen through understanding.
gndlfw 6 months ago
not a very good talker; maybe he is old but i can't finish watching this!
ok, the video carried on and at minute 15 he said all whites benefited from apartheid .... this is crap ... today SA is the most modern country in Africa, the blacks also benefited from the whites being here .... go and look at other african countries where there are less whites and see how bad things are going there
eduard4455 6 months ago
not a very good talker; maybe he is old but i can't finish watching this!
eduard4455 6 months ago
White tax: Making one race group poor will not solve anything. You need to uplift everyone. How can you make such IRRESPONSIBLE comments - we had enough of fueling racial hatred. SHAME ON YOU.
jantjieman 6 months ago
@alchiby The Germans, in contrast to white South Africans, show(ed) remorse for the Holocaust. Yes, the country moved on economically, etc., but up to this day Germans have a humility which stems from the realization that they were guilty of terrible things. (Unfortunately - but that is a different discussion) their guilt continues to the present, partly because of what happened, but also because of accusations from the rest of the world. And so they too continue to live with their legacy.
mecks100 6 months ago
Apartheid damaged South Africa but not as badly as the Elite has through ALL of Africa. Why are we in the process of creating an Elite in South Africa. Stop looking at the past and start looking into the future. Forget about black and white but rather focus on rich and poor, regardless or race. South Africa can only move on once all the old leaders have passed on and fresh open minded leaders replace all the current self puttying ones.
SoundsLikeOdie 6 months ago
I'm an ex-University of Stellenbosch tertiary student. What a load of BS!! The tutu man can't even read properly. Advice to anyone with brains: Pack up and Ship Out to UK, Aussie, New Zealand, Canada, USA and have a good life. You should have done it 15 years ago!! WHY do you still put up with this BS???
Matrix2407 6 months ago
Stop blaming apartheid. Look for the reason on a spiritual level. John McAthur had the courage to say on TV after 9/11, discussing reason for it happening with spiritual leaders:'THEY HAVE THE WRONG GOD' Mbeki was first President to go to his home village to slaughter an ox for blood, giving spiritual authority over SA to Satan. Shortly thereafter babies raped, heads cut off, old people's brains on ceilings! Blood + forefathers + sangomas= no blessing, prosperity, love, respect. Tutu, you know!
mrscayenne2 6 months ago
@mrscayenne2 You have as much spiritualism as the Spainish Inquisition, and strike me as a highly uneducated woman. You are the least likely person to offer love to others besides your own kind, and even less any respect. The only belief you have is in considering yourself important enough to lord your attitudes over the belief of others. Shame on you!
ridiculous977 6 months ago
Racist! Coming from a supposed man of faith? Tax everybody in SA equally - why just whites? Or Indians? Ridiculous!
MegaBocababe 6 months ago
Tutu is a racist. He is supposed to be a man of the cloth. He can take his ridiculous ideas and rot in hell as far as i am concerned. Not a chance i will pay for what my forefathers have done. The blacks get the cushy BEE jobs and the white youngsters of today in SA have no chance of competing for jobs. Ridiculous statement by someone who is meant to have a level head and a religious stand point. He is nothing but an ANC spokesperson.
boklam 6 months ago
My first task come monday morning is to get my hands on as many of this piece
of garbage wriiten by tutu & flush them down the toilet.
Forgive him Lord for he knows not what he speaks.
alchiby 6 months ago
White PRIVILAGE CRAP ! THIS LINE OF BS IS "ALWAYS USED IN THE UNITED STATES BY RACIST BLACKS" seems like they ARE NOW USING THIS BS IN SOUTH AFRICA ! MAYBE WHITE COUNTRIES SHOULD IMPOSE A "BLACK TAX" ON AFRICANS FOR ALL THE HAVOC THEY BRING WITH THEM ! LIKE IN LONDON ! CALCULATE THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY RACIST BLACK AFRICANS AND THEN IMPOSE A TAX ON ALL " BLACK PEOPLE" TO HELP REPAY FOR ALL THE DAMAGE ! PLUS HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL THE WELFARE THEY RECEIVE ! THEY MUST BE TAXED TO PAY FOR IT !
WhiteIGNITERS 6 months ago
@albert2adams, the old man is saying the truth that other prominent senior citizens can't dare to say. black people lived for decades feeling guilty for just being "black", it was a curse that you were “black”, you were made every day to feel and not to forget that you are. If the truth hurts u that much that u wanna leave, by all means, go well and rest assured u won’t be missed. By the way, this country is not short of timid and thoughtless individuals.
blanco2773 6 months ago
I ever would have thought I would see the day that this man would utter such racist suggestions. I am dissapointed and more and more feeling that it may be time to to pack up and ship out. If you don't want us here, let us leave!
albert2adams 6 months ago
It is so true that shame and guilt is devastating our white compatriots. the only way we can go forward together is not by pretending that we have common beliefs. there is still huge disparity between whites and blacks in this country, the evidence is on the comments in the news articles, we always pull ethnic remarks to everything even senselessly so most of the time. the sooner we acknowledge and accept that disparity the better.
blanco2773 6 months ago
No Tutu, we get upset because all we've ever done and continueing to do is offering ourselves for the benefit of SA and making it the most advanced country on the continent. But all we get is constantly being put on a guilt trip for the past. I'm done. I hope SA fails. Take my car, I don't want it. But I still don't care, beacuse I know the truth. LAIR.
boerqwhaas 6 months ago
Hearing Tutu gives me hope for SA, and his honesty, wisdom and courage to say the things that people don't want to hear are an inspiration to stand up for the truth and what is right. Often I too am tired of the guilt - whether self-imposed or forced on me by others - of being a white South African. But it is my legacy and inheritance that cannot be erased (just as e.g. the Germans could not erase their Holocaust history), and the challenge is to turn this legacy into a positive contribution.
mecks100 6 months ago
@mecks100 The Germans can not erase the HOLOCAUST but they got past it,to day Germany is a very
successful country.It did not take them long to be that way,our country I fear is not going forwards it's going backwards.The rot is visible wherever you go look around you mecks100
alchiby 6 months ago
Melanin differs 25-38% between so-called "whites" & "blacks"; this particular difference is due to one DNA base pair difference in the 21420 base pair long SLC45A5 gene. Two other genes (MC1R & SLC45A2) can also cause significant differences, & 4 more minor differences in skin colour & hair. If you are leaving school, (& had nothing to do with SA's past), note that the ANC, Cosatu, the ANCYL & others believe that these genes must control your access to opportunities. SA is committed to racism.
etangdescygnes 6 months ago
The biggest cause of oppression and racism is caused by politics and politicians. Political parties should be abolished as they never cater for the whole nation. Dictatorship is demonic and only enriches the life of the dictator. True democracy is when people are voted into public top positions by the public . Each category i.e. Finance, education, health, etc should have a total expert in the top position. Pol parties seldom have expertize in all sections and behind closed doors concoctions.
leratoshengu 6 months ago
The biggest cause of oppression and racism is caused by politics and politicians. Political parties should be abolished as they never cater for the whole nation. Dictatorship is demonic and only enriches the life of the dictactor. True democracy is when people are voted into puplic top positions by the public . Each catagory i.e. Finance, education, health, etc should have a total expert in the top position. Pol parties seldom have expertize in all sections and behind closed doors concoctions.
leratoshengu 6 months ago
Once again comments are published out of context. I sometimes become weary of the burden of having grown up, not as a wealthy white, but having the opportunities that were not available to all. We cannot save the world single-handedly, but we can take care of those who the universe has put on this earth to share our path. One person a day. If everyone on this earth took care of everyone else, nobody would be wanting. The "me first" culture has a lot to answer for.
Ahimsa810 6 months ago
he is saying that both sides are in pain from the past, I dont disagree with what he is saying and hell, it is more articulate and better than someone like Julius Malema
at the center of his speech, as always, he focuses on compassion and highlighting that there is pain throughout humanity that we must recognise and overcome
neworleans75 6 months ago 4
So sick of apologising for being white.
I was around when apartheid was in place, I benefited, BUT I pay my taxes despite this "morally superior" government screwing me over. I believe that for some weird reason that I should STAY and contribute to the rebuilding of this country.
Concentrate on RIGHTEOUSNESS a word many of our so-called leaders don't understand. BUILD A BIGGER CAKE or we'll fight over the crumbs.
God bless us with righteous leaders, PLEASE!
63marques 6 months ago 3
Desmond Tutu is the man. "Apartheid damaged us all. Not a single one of us has escaped."
rap1072 6 months ago
This speech was completely pointless. He needs to direct a speech at educating his own race. He needs to tell them that they need to start using the democratic system they fought for to vote in a government that is non-corrupt. To not allowing any government absolute power. And most importantly teach them how to hold their government accountable for their mistakes. Teach them to stop supporting those who are corrupt, and so on.. only then will they start to move out of poverty. Wake up Tutu.
a18nukem 6 months ago
Watching this and seeing that the media is using everything out of context in order to get a reaction from everyone. Looks like it's worked and people are not watching the video to get the truth but have already made they're minds up by the time they get here. God bless you Tutu.
JCReignsEnt 6 months ago
When Britain defeated the boer nation,put in concentration camps many died,they
put the past behind them &made a success of this beautiful land 94 the blacks
inherited a thriving well run country.Now what has happened its looking more & more
like a third world country.Filth & mayhem wherever you look so pls Mr Tutu be fair
blame your own race for the happenings in SOUTH AFRICA today.
alchiby 6 months ago
Whatever respect I had for this man,flew out the window,he is not only a liar but a
hypocrite as well,how much more must us whites pay, our blood is being sucked
dry by the ruling masses.Where else in the world do 4 million whites & shrinking carry the biggest burden of taxasion.Apartheid time was the same.
Our family have been in bussiness in S.Africa since 1925 I have yet to own what
these black diamonds own.Please explain how did so many of your kind get the wealth in 17 yrs
alchiby 6 months ago
This is the biggest load of crap i ever heard
81crispy 6 months ago
lol
KrENZOKUKEN 6 months ago
Even here - where Tutu's words can be heard and seen in context and where it is clear that he isn't playing a blame game, but rather pleading for the continual healing of our collective wounds - there are still people who just doesn't seem to get it.
gormendizer 6 months ago 4
Yeah how many white people do I know that sits without work because BEE and AA takes those opportunities away from them? Black South Africans are living the life of kings, where White South Africans are poverty stricken and helpless.
I hope... I pray... These blacks would stop their racism and stop blaming the past. Why dont the black ppl sell their cars to show some respect to me!
Llewellyn101 6 months ago
What a bloody racist. Now Apartheid is to blame for people littering ??? Apartheid probably caused Global Warming as well!!! Yes - keep blaming.. Why don't you stand up and develop your race as the whites did ? After the Anglo Boer war - the Afrikaners lost everything - but they did not steal and murder and rape. They worked hard and reaped the rewards. Now you want to TAX the white people again and again ? Moron - the whites are 9% of the population, but 95% of the taxpayers.
jhschoeman 6 months ago