Positive Effects of Chiropractic Care for High Blood Pressure

[chiropractic47]

All chiropractic schools teach upper cervical techniques, thus all chiropractic doctors learn an upper cervical technique. NUCCA looks, behaves, and achieves the same results of the other upper cervical techniques...been there...done that.

[chiropractic47]

Toggle recoil and NUCCA, Atlas Orthogonal are three common chiropractic upper cervical techniques that focus on the same area of the spine and achieve the same results.

[adioflo]

@chiropractic47 That is wrong ... they do not all achieve the same result with the same consistency and it definitely should be stated they are not the same in terms of the application of force to the body. I'll even gladly take the high road here and not point out which ones are gentle and which ones blast the spine into shock. I'll leave that up to interested parties to research on their own.

[AchievingHealth]

There has already been a blood pressure study that used diversified supine adjusting. The study failed and the blood pressure was not lowered in any consistent manner according to my best understanding of the study.

[AchievingHealth]

This adjustment is N.U.C.C.A. The goal is for an orthogonal relationship between the head and neck allowing the brain stem to properly regulate the body. There is currently a continuous study at the best most premier Chiropractic College in the world, Palmer College of Chiropractic in Davenport Iowa. The study is researching other upper cervical techniques. All upper cervical techniques do not twist and pop and YES the public needs to be aware of the different procedures that are gentle.

[adioflo]

docbrok - stop this BS! we know that other adjustments CAN do the job ... the point is that NUCCA can do it consistantly compared to other procedures. that doesn't mean you should stop treating, by all means do it how you know ... but the FACTS are that this study was on NUCCA and ONLY REPRESENTS THAT FACT!!!

chiropractic47 - you are just a chiropractic leach and obviously either did not attend chiropractic school or didn't pay attention cause everyone DOES NOT learn the same techniques.

[chiropractic47]

@adioflo Dear blow job (adioflo), all that I implied was that; there are other upper cervical adjustive techniques that accomplish the same objective as NUCCA. I did not put down NUCCA. I see 500+ pv/week to your 75 pv/week. I attended both the largest and most modern chiro school in the world (Life Chiropractic), which by the way instructs on the most techniques. Suck it up sucka! ADIO!

[adioflo]

@chiropractic47 Wow you are pretty cool you see 500 people a week ... guess you spend a lot of time with them and they get a lot of attention. So you know the top two reasons why people leave a doctor. 1. They don't listen & 2. They don't care. Good luck with that one.

How bout we try to keep these conversations adult and scientifically based ...

or I could come up with some juvenile small minded insults too!

[adioflo]

@chiropractic47 An honest question for real discussion and no attacking ... I would like for you to relate to me your understanding of what the collectively similar objectives that exist between upper cervical techniques? I feel I may be able to ultimately share with you what I leaned and now live as part of my life and stand behind as an honest and forthright doctor everyday ... and what that is what the diffferences are between UC techs, just like other techs. Anyway...please explain your side

[chiropractic47]

@adioflo No problem. Take Toggle Recoil for an example; same x-ray prtocol to assess an atlas listing and a very similar spinal adjustment....so what gives/

[docbrok]

@adioflo What BS .... I feel bad for you adioflo and other NUCCA people that think this way. Funny thing is a local NUCCA doc near me... for all he preaches about NUCCA... he has added spinal decompression to his practice. I find that quite ironic.

As for Chiro47... I agree NUCCA is shooting itself and chiropractic with it's thinking and marketing that I've seen.

[adioflo]

@docbrok I feel bad for YOUR PATIENTS AND COMMUNITY! Being so ignorant as to what chiropractic research is out there. Diversified studies have FAILED to produce any results like these. Yourself and the rest of chiropractic is trying to adopt it as their own to make money!

Please explain how a profession that lauds the fact there are so many various methods to have all these "tools in your toolbelt" and yet when a specific procedure is actually validated...oh wait we're all the same. You = BS;)

[docbrok]

@adioflo I love Nucca docs... chiropractic47... I get many of their patients in my area due to their lack of results and incompetence. I feel bad for you adioflo and other Nucca docs that think like you.

Funny... my first patient in The best chiropractic college.. Life Chiropractic College clinic 16 years ago had severe hypertension that no meds ever decreased 200/140. Toggle on atlas and immediately dropped 20 points... in 2 weeks we had the diastolic down significantly. Chiropractic works!!

[adioflo]

@docbrok UH, HUH any more unfounded facts to throw around ... why don't you tell me the exact # of NUCCA patients you receive. We'll all believe you then for sure man.

You know what is saddest about you is that we should and could be working together. I don't spinal manipulate using Diversified and I'm no good at it .... I don't really want to be. Others are very good at it. I work currently co-managing cases with 8 other chiros from outside of the city of STL. We refer and cooperate not pretend

[docbrok]

I wouldn't say every... I know many chiros from certain schools that don't even learn how to adjust. NUCCA isn't the only upper cervical technique that gets this or other positive results. My first patient years ago... his BP dropped 22 points after his first cervical adjustment... not even an upper cervical technique. NUCCA chiros have to stop this marketing that their way is the way these results occur. And as for the statement of C1 being the fuse box..don't forget the other vertebra!!!

[chiropractic47]

@docbrok Well put docbrok, NUCCA is shooting its own and all of chiropractic in the foot by laying claim that it is the premier upper cervical technique and the sole application to rectify an upper cervical subluxation that causeds hypertension. All techniques are effective but are applied in different manners. ADIO!

[chiropractic47]

The news station stands to be corrected...Every chiropractic doctor learns the same upper cervical technique (toggle recoil) shown in the video. CHIROPRACTIC!!

[accdoc]

Actually, the technique shown is NUCCA. And there's no toggle recoil being done with this technique.

[chiropractic47]

We know it's NUCCA and we know that NUCCA is not the only upper cervical game in town.

[adioflo]

@chiropractic47 Except that was not toggle recoil man ... just saying ... not trying to be a jerk.